NationStates Jolt Archive

Minimum Purchase $50 Mil

NO M1 ABRAMS!!!!

Original MBTs:
TR-4000: $7 Million
TDR-3000A2: $7.5 Million
TR-2000A5: $5.2 Million
TR-1500A2: $4.2 Million

Western MBTs:
Leopard 2S: $4.5 Million
Leopard 1A5: $800,000
Leopard C2: $1 Million
Leclerc: $4 Million
Agrigento's C1 Ariete MK3: $4 Million

Eastern Bloc MBTs:
T-90M: $4 Million
T-80UR: $3.5 Million
M-84 Degman: $1.5 Million
T-64U: $1 Million
T-62 Morozov: $750,000
T-55AGM: $500,000

APCs:
Badger MICV: $1.8 Million
CV-9030: $1.2 Million
BMP-3: $1.2 Million
BTR-T: $900,000
MT-LB: see details.

Wheeled Combat Vehicles
Wolverine AUCV
AMX-10 RC: $800,000
Centauro: $1 Million
XA-200: $1 Million
BTR-80: $800,000
BTR-90: $1 Million

Artillery & MLRS
Grad BM-21:$100,000
HIMARS: $250,000
Urugan 9K57: $350,000
Smerch 9K58: $500,000
Crusader Artillery Sytem: $6 Million
MSTA-S: $2 Million
(all MLRS systems come with plans for rockets)

ICBMs
SS-25 Sickle TEL: $15 Million

AT Missiles's
LOSAT: $20,000



TR-4000
http://www.mainbattletanks.czweb.org/Tanky/t84120.jpg
Crew: 3
Weight: 60 tons
Length: 9,7 m
Height: 2.2m
Width: 3.8m
Armament:
152mm ETC cannon
15.5mm AA MG
7.62 mm Co-axial MG
2 Foldout launchers each with 1 ATGM or SAM each can be fitted
Rate of fire: 12 Rounds/Minute
Motor: 1400HP Turbo-diesel
Speed: 75 km/h paved road, 52 km/h cross country
Range: 550 km
Armor:
3rd Generation "Kent" Chobham armor
Fitings for 4th generation ERA plating
Countermeasures:
"Gypsy" Active Proctection System Capable of detecting and defeating projectiles traveling up to 1600 m/s from 200m away
Features:
*Commander does not have to be exposed to operate 15.5mm MG
*Hydraulic suspension capable of bieng raised or lowered up to 6 inches to improve on/off road performance
*small radar capable of tracking targets 10 miles away
*Stinger or Igla-S missiles for SAM launcher
*AT-16 capable of bieng fired from launcher
*Crewless turret
*Thick Glacis
Cost: $7 Million
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TDR-3000A2
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/British/British_Conqueror_Heavy_Tank.gif
Crew: 4
Height: 11.5 feet (3.45 meters) to top of mini turret.
Width: 15.33 feet (4.6 meters)
Length: 45.57 feet (13.67 meters) with barrel; 33.23 feet (9.97 meters) for just the hull/main body of the tank.
Weight: 77 tons fully loaded
Armament:
145mm ETC cannon
23mm AA cannon
2 15.5mm MG's
4 ATGM tubes
Smoke dispensers
2 Fold out Igla-S SAMs
Top speed: 35 mp/h
Cross country speed: 30mph
Range: 400km
Fording ability: Up to 20ft
Protection:
Konkav 3rd gen. ERA
All those neat russian gizmos with the cool names
Heat dampers
Cost: $7.5 Million

Improvements:
Crewless Turret
Hydraulic suspension to raise or lower tank
Maelstrom Anti-ATGM system
Water fording up to 18ft
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TR-2000A5
http://www.ciar.org/~ttk/mbt/china/china.T-90II-5.jpg
Armament: 135mm M450 High velocity ETC and an auto loader to sustain a 12 round per minute rate of fire. 48 rounds of ammunition are carried. Specially made ATGM's can also be fired from the gun barrel, and ATGM tubes can be fitted on the sides of the turret

Secondary armament is a 15.5mm AA MG and a 7.62 coax mg.

AA defense can also be provided from 2 fold-out IGLA-S launchers on each side of the turret, carrying 2 missiles per launcher

Maximum speed: 55 mp/h on road, 33 mp/h cross country

Weight: 45 tons

Range: 490km

Sensors:
Night-Zeiss thermal imaging
Day-Krupp-Atlas EMES-15, 12x / FERO Z18 secondary, 8x
Laser rangefinder
Advanced gun stabilization, allowing for accurate fire even at top speeds

Armor:
New armor codenamed "Montgomery", with Konkav ERA, giving it the same amount of armor protection but lowering overall weight

Countermeasures:
Laser jammers
ARENA system
SHTORA system

Cost per unit: 5.2 million dollars

Improvements:
Hydraulic suspension to raise or lower tank
Maelstrom Anti-ATGM system
Water fording up to 15ft
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TR-1500A2
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/British/British_Firefly_Expeditionary_Tank.gif
Using the same electronics and ERA as the TR-2000-A3 this tank is designed for rapid deployment and operation in difficult terrain(mountains). Also uses "Montgomery" armor, but in lesser amounts than the TR-2000-A3 along with a smaller turret and cannon to reduce weight. Armor protection is still better than that of the Abrams however. Good choice for recon or airborne units needeing armor protection.

Crew: 3
Height: 9.5 feet (2.9 meters)
Width: 10 feet 6 inches (3.2 meters)
Length: Main Body: 26 feet (7.9 meters)
With Gun Forward: 32.2 feet (9.8 meters)
Weight: 30 tons
Top speed: 58 mp/h
Range: 420 miles
Armament:
120mm ETC Cannon
1 15.5 AA MG
1 7.62 Co-ax MG
2 ATGM/SAM tubes
Cost: $4.5 Million

Improvements
Hydraulic suspension to raise or lower tank
Maelstrom Anti-ATGM system
Water fording up to 12ft
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Leopard 2 (S)
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leopard/images/leop4.jpg
Crew: 4
Weight: 62 metric tonnes
Length: 7.7 m
Width: 3.7 m
Height: 3.0 m
Armament: 1 x Rheinmetall 120 mm L55 smoothbore gun
1 x coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun
1 x 7.62 mm anti-aircraft machine gun
Maximum speed: 72 km/hr
Maximum range: 500 km
Powerplant: MTU MB 873 multi-fuel, 1500 hp
Transmission: Renk HSWL 354
Gunner's sight: STN Atlas Elektronik EMES 15 with thermal channel and laser rangefinder
Commander's sight: STN Atlas Elektronik PERI-R17A2 with thermal channel
Improvements over 2A6:
Advanced Command and Control system
Passive armor
Cost: 4.5 Million
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Leopard 1A5
http://user.tninet.se/~vzh018v/matriel/strv/leopard1/leo1no.jpg
Crew 4
Weight: 42.4 tons
Perfomance data:
Maximum road speed (forward) 65 km/h
Maximum road speed (reverse) 25 km/h
Maximum road range 600 km
Maximum cross-country range 450 km
Fuel capacity 985 liters
Vertical obstavle 1.15 m
Trench 3 m
Fording with preparation 2.25 m
Fording with snorkel 4 m
Engine: Type MTU MB 838 Ca-M500, 10-cylinder, 37.4 litre, four-stroke, multi-fuel
Power 830 hp at 2,200 rpm
Chassis seven dual light metal rubber-tired road wheels and four track return rollers on either side, drive sprocket at the rear and idlers at the front
Main armament:
Type British-supplied 105 mm L7A3 rifled gun
Internal ammunition supply 60 rounds
Ammunition types APFSDS, HEAT, HEP, HESH and more
Secondary armament:
Type 2 x Rheinmetall 7.62 mm MG 3machine gun (one coaxial, and one anti-aircraft)
Smoke-laying equipment 4 smoke dischargers on either turret side
Fire-control and sighting equipment
Driver's sights: three observation periscopes, the center one replacable by an image-intesification periscope or an infra-red sight
Loader's sights: two periscopes for observation of a designed battlefield sector
Gunner's sightsl EMES 18 (on Leopard 1A5) gyro stabilized with laser rangefinder and thermal view. Mounted on top of the turrret.
TZF 1A telescope mounted coaxial.
Commander's sightl eight periscopes for all-round observation, on can be replaced by an image intensification periscope for night observation
swivel-mounted TRP 2A zoom periscope with magnification of x 6 up to x 20
EMES 18 commanders view
Cost: $800,000
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Leopard C2
http://www2.sfu.ca/casr/leo2-3.jpg
Same as above but with improved armor and sights
Cost: $1 Million
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Leclerc
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/giat3/giat2.jpg
Crew Size: 3
Combat Weight: 54,500kg
Length: (hull) 6.88m
Length: (gun forward) 9.87m
Width: 3.71m
Height: (to turret roof) 2.53m
power unit: diesel engine hyperbar V8 of power 1500 ch/DIN.
Max Road Speed: 71kmh
Max Road Range: 550km
650 km with tanks of 1300 L and 400 L out of releasable barrels
average speed any ground 40 to 50 km/h
Armament: (main gun) 120mm
Armament: (coaxial) 12.7mm MG
Armament: (anti-aircraft) 7.62mm MG
Cost: $4 Million
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C1 Ariete MK3
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ariete/images/ariete3.jpg
Combat weight 56 tons
Crew 3, commander, gunner, driver
Dimensions:
Hull length: 7590 mm
Length including main gun: 9670 mm
Overall width: 3610 mm
Width of tracks: 3420 mm
Height to turret roof: 2500 mm
Height to top of hull: 1820 mm
Ground clearance: 480 mm
Elevation of main gun: -9 degrees to +20 degrees
Turret rotation in azimuth: n x 360 degrees
Firepower:
Main gun: OTOBREDA 120 mm smoothbore gun w/autoloader
Ammunition: 42 rounds 120mm
Coaxial machine gun: 7.62 mm NATO general purpose machine gun
Anti-aircraft gun: 7.62 mm machine gun
Ammunition: 2,500 rounds 7.62 mm ammunition
Smoke grenades launchers: 8 x 80mm
Sensors:
Sensors:
Night-Zeiss thermal imaging
Day-Krupp-Atlas EMES-15, 12x / FERO Z18 secondary, 8x
Laser rangefinder
Advanced gun stabilization, allowing for accurate fire even at top speeds
Automatic measurement range, relative speed, external factors
Protection:
Hull and turret: Chobham variant with added layer of steel and DU
NBC System: Sekur NBC protection
Fire fighting system fire protection in engine and crew compartments
Laser warning fitted as standard
Engine turbo charged, 12 cylinder, diesel Fiat V-12 MTCA
Power 12V 1137 kW
Brakes: Disc type brakes on each of the final drives, integrated by the transmission retarder
Steering: With 3 ranges of radii per each gear plus pivot steering
Performance:
Top speed: more than 70 kilometres per hour
Cost: $4 Million
Sold under permision of Agrigento
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T-90M
http://armor.kiev.ua/fofanov/Tanks/MBT/t-90s2.jpg
Crew 3
Combat weight: 46.5 tons
Engine: V-92S2
Fuel tanks capacity 1,600 litres
Armament
main gun 125 mm 2A46M - smoothbore
coaxial machine gun 7.62 mm PKT
machine gun 12.7 mm NSVT-12.7 AD
assault rifle 5.45 mm AKS-74
3UBK14 weapon system with 9M119 missile
3UBK20 weapon system with 9M119M missile
Firing range 100 to 5,000 m
Ammunition
2A46M gun: 43 rounds including 22 on carousel
PKT machine gun: 2,000 cartridges
NSVT-12.7 AD machine gun: 300 cartridges
AKS-74 assault rifle: 300 cartridges
Armament stabiliser: 2E42-4
AD machine gun sight PZU-7
AD machine gun fire control system: 1ETs29 with vertical stabilisation
Communications UHF R-163-504 radio set
UHF R-163-UP radio receiver
Performance
Road range
Paved road: 650 km
Unpaved: 500 km
Ground pressure: 0.87 kg/sq cm
Refleks Missile System
Range 100 - 4,000 m
Hit probability at least 0.8
Armour penetration 700 mm
ERA penetration ensured
Guidance system: semi-automatic, laser
Time of flight to 4,000 m: 11.7 sec
Weight of missile: 23.4 kg
Cost: $4 Million
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T-80UR
http://www.gchjs.com/wjzb/St80.jpg
Kaktus ERA
Crew 3
Weight: 46 tons
Engine: GTD three shafts with two cascades of turbocompression power turbine and GTD-1250 controlled nozzle assembly
Power: 1250 hp
Transmission: mechanical, planetary
Track: metallic with RMSh and rubber-tyred road wheels
Suspension: torsion bar
Shock absorbers: hydraulic, telescopic (on 1, 2 and 6 road wheels)
Electrical equipment: 22 - 29 V DC
Road speed unpaved: 40 - 45 km/hour
paved: 65 - 70 km/hour
maximum: 78 km/hour
Fuel endurance: 500km
Negotiable obstacles:
gradient: 32 deg
side slope: 30 deg
trench: 2.85 m
Fording depth:
without preparation: 1.2 m
with preparation: 1.8 m
with OVPT snorkel: 5 m
Dimensions:
length: (gun forwards) 9.66 m
length: (over hull) 7 m
length: of track on ground 4.3 m
width: (over tracks) 3.4 m
width: (over gill armour panels) 3.6 m
track: 2.8 m
height: (over turret roof) 2.2 m
ground clearance: 451 mm
Weapons:
main gun: 125 mm 2A50M-1 smoothbore
elevation/depression: +15 to -5 deg
coaxial machine gun: 7.62 mm PKT
machine gun: 12.7 mm Utes (NSVT-12.7) AD
Ammunition:
120 mm Rheinmetall L55 gun: 45 rounds
7.62 mm machine gun: 1250 cartridges
12.7 mm AD machine gun: 500 cartridges
T80UK
Combat rate of fire of 120 mm gun: 10 rounds/min
Maximum range 4,700 m with HE-FRAG with time and percussion fuzes:
Ammunition
Gun: 35 rounds
PKT machine gun 750 cartridges
Cost: $3.5 Million
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M-84 Degman
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/degman.jpg
Weight: 48,000kg
Length: 9.5m
Width: 3.6m
Height: 2.2m
Speed: 35-45 km/h - on macadam road
50 km/h - on grade 1 road
70 km/h -Max speed
Tactical radius: 450-700 km
Max. gradient: 30%
Max. lateral grade: 25%
Main Gun: 125mm cannon
Ammunition: Semi-fixed round, with HE, HEAT and HVAPDS (FS) projectiles
Combat set: 42 rounds
Coaxial Machine Gun: 7.62mm
Commander's Machine Gun: 12.7mm
Crew: 3
Cost: 1.5 Million
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T-64U
http://waffenhq.de/panzer/t-64u_04.jpg
Weight: 39 tons
Engine: 750hp diesel
Armament: 125mm smoothbore gun
1 12.7mm AA MG
1 7.62mm MG
Top Speed: 38 mp/h
Improvements over regular T-64:
TPN-4E 'Buran-E' night vision device
1A45 'Irtysh' fire control system
PNK-4 gunners sight
TKN-4S with commander's sight and 'Agat'
Cost: $1 Million
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T-62 Morozov MBT
http://www.army.lv/Tehnika/Tanks/T-62/T-62(5).jpg
Armor: equivalent to 800mm with Kaktus ERA installed
Armament:
125mm Cannon
7.62 mm coaxial MG
12.7 mm AA MG
Engine: 5TDF 700hp diesel engine
Speed: 35 mph
Range: 315 miles
Crew: 3
Wt: 40 tons
Cost: $750,000
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T-55AGM
http://personal.inet.fi/koti/uninen/uploads/Rf/t55agm22ls.jpg
Crew: 3
Weight: 40,000 kg
Length: 9.00 m (including gun)
Width: 3.14 m
Height: 2.20 m
Max speed: 62 km/h (on road)
Max range: 500 km (on road)
Engine: One V12 5TDFM Diesel
(850hp)
Fuel capacity: 1260 litres
Trench crossing: 2.70 m
Armour Protection: Frontal armor can withstand 120mm round, Nozh ERA, ARENA countermeasure system
The T-55AGM tank is a version of modernisation of T-54, T-55, T-59 and T-62 tanks.
In order to enhance all its main combat, technical and operational characteristics, it is fitted with the following:
Power pack with 5TDFM engine
Improved running gear
Automated movement control system with a steering handlebar control
Additional passive protection, built-in explosive reactive armour, optronic countermeasures system, and new fire suppression system
Up-to-date fire control system with over-ride facilities at the commander's station
Automatic loader
Anti-aircraft machine gun that can be aimed and fired from within the turret under complete armour protection
New gun (its calibre can be 125 mm or 120 mm according to Customer's request).
Cost: $500,000
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Armoured Personnel Carriers
Badger MICV
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/British/British_Valiant_IFV.gif
Designed to replace all other APC's in active Romanian service this MICV can carry up to 9 troops fully armed. It is the 1st Romanian AFV to feature an ETC gun. It's main armament is the revolutionary 80mm Electro-Thermal Cannon which has the penetrating power of a convention high-velocity 105mm cannon. It also has a 30mm chain gun, 1 12.7mm MG, an automatic Grenade Launcher, ATGM mounts on the sides of turret, and smoke dischargers. Armor of the Badger APC can withstand any RPG attack, as well as any gun up to 120mm.
Crew: 3+10 troops
Height: 9.0 feet (2.75 meters)
Width: 12.5 feet (3.3 meters)
Length: 23.6 feet (7.2 meters)
Weight: 30.9 tons (28 metric tons) fully loaded
Top Speed: 42mph
Top Speed in water: 9mph
Fording ability: 15ft
Range: 450km
Armament:
80mm ETC gun
30mm Chain gun
15.5mm MG
Automatic grenade launcher
2 ATGM launchers
Smoke dischargers
Cost: $1.8 Million
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CV9030
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/cv90/images/cv90_1.jpg
Performance
Speed forward: 70 km/h
Speed reverse: 43 km/h
Armament:
Bushmaster II, 30 mm cannon
Machine gun: 7.62 mm
Turret traverse: 360 degrees continuous
Elevation: +45 to -10 degrees
Maximum slew rate in elevation and traverse: 60 degrees/sec
Weight, combat loaded: 26,000 kg
Ground pressure, combat load: 58.6 kPa
Gunner sight: Thermal
Commander sight: Remote display from gunner's sight
Driver's viewer: AN/VVS-CV 90
Cost: $1.2 Million

CV9040
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/cv90/images/cv90_8.jpg
Similar to above but 30mm gun replaced by 40mm gun
Cost: $1.25 Million

CV90105
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/cv90/images/cv90_2.jpg
30mm replaced by 105mm cannon
Cost: $1.4 Million
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BMP-3
http://www.gamer.no/bilder/spill/soldner_secret_wars/bmp3_pic1.jpg
Length (gun forwards): 7.2 m
Length (over hull): 6.7 m
Width (over tracks): 3.15 m
Width (over gill type armour panels): 3.3 m
Maximum height: 2.65 m
Height overall: 2.45 m
Maximum speed
Paved road: 70 km/h
Afloat: 10 km/h
Crew: 3
Combat weight: 18.7 tons
Troop carrying capacity: 7 with 2 additional
Armament:
100mm cannon
30mm cannon
3 7.62mm MGs
smoke dispensers
Cost: $1.2 Million
*Arena system available for $200k extra
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BTR-T
http://www.milparade.com/1997/24/1282.jpg
Designed by the Russians after experiences in Chechnya where the armor of the BMP-1 and BMP-2 was inadequate it was decided to convert old T-55's into APCs.
Weightt: 38.5 tons
Crew: 2
Troops: 5
Max Speed: 50km/h
Range: 500km
ARMAMENT
Various weapons including
30mm Autocannon, 12.7mm MG, AGS-17
+
2 Konkurs ATGM tubes
PROTECTION:
600mm
Cost: $900,000
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MT-LB
http://hem.passagen.se/raskus/Mt-Lb_2.jpg
Length: 21.3 feet
Width: 9.5 feet
Height: 6.2 feet
Weight: 12 tons
Speed: 37 miles per hour
Range: 310 miles
Crew: 2
Passengers: 11
Armament: 7.62-mm. machine gun
Cost: $600,000

MT-LB Variants:
SA-13
http://www.armouredplastic.com/strela10.jpg
Missile Range: 5km Max
Guidance: IR Homing
Cost: $750,000

MT-LB R6
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/kharkov/img5.jpg
Improvements:
30mm Cannon
81mm Smoke grenades
TKN-4S Agat-S and PZU-7 sights
Cost: $800,000

MT-LBVM6
http://www.army-technology.com/contractor_images/kharkov/img4.jpg
Armament:
2 Zu-23 AA cannons
1 14.5mm AA MG
Cost: $700,000

MT-LB Ambulance
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/mt-lb1.jpg
Armament removed
Room for 4 strechers
Cost: $650,000
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Wheeled Combat Vehicles
The Wolverine Advanced Urban Combat Vehicle
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/vextra/images/vextra3.jpg
The Wolverine is an 8 wheeled AFV which was specially engineered for Urban Combat. With a relatively low weight of 29 tons and a 8x8 steering system it is very fast and agile. One of it's big advantages in urban combat scenarios is the fact that it can use it's advanced thermal imager to see through walls and rubble, reducing the likelyhood of an ambush. It can also see through street corners, enabling it to see other AFV's or tanks. The thermal imager provides a 360 degree view, has a range of almost 2km, and it's sensitivity is adjustable.
View from the TI:
http://www.sandberg.co.uk/spec/images/S280r04-1.jpg
The Wolverine also comes in several variants: Standard, APC, ADATS, ATGM, and Medivac. All version come with countermeasures for ATGM's and ERA plating overtop of their Montgomery armor.

Standard version
Stats:
Crew: 3+4 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 120mm ETC cannon
1 15.5mm MG
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
2 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $1.6 Million

APC version
http://www.fuckyouanddie.com/pics/88437215.jpg
Stats:
Crew: 3+9 troops
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 30mm auto cannon
1 AGS-17 Automatic Grenade Launcher
1 15.5mm MGs
2 7.62mm MGs
4 ATGM Launchers
smoke dispensers
Cost: $1.4 Million

ADATS version
Stats:
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
8 SAM missiles with range of 6km
2 15.5mm MGs
1 7.62 MG
smoke dispensers
Radar capable of detecting threats 30 miles away
Cost: $1.5 Million

ATGM version
Crew: 3
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
10 ATGM tubes(20 missiles carried, reload time: 5 minutes)
2 15.5mm MGs
smoke dispensers
Cost: $1.5 Million

Medivac version:
Crew: 3+2 medics
Length: 6,95m
Width: 2,99m
Height: 1,74m
Weight: 29 tons
Top Speed: 50 mph
Range: 500km
Drivetrain: 8x8
Armament:
1 15.5mm MGs for self defense
smoke dispensers
room for 4 strechers
Cost: $1.3 million
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AMX-10 RC
http://www.bezuprzedzen.pl/poglady/woj/amx10.jpg
Crew 4
Dimensions and weight
Chassis length 6.35 m
Overall length 9.15 m
Overall width 2.95 m
Engine power 420 hp
Maximum road speed: 115 km/h
Average road speed 65 km/h
Average cross-country speed 40 km/h
Autonomy on roads 950 km
Autonomous mobility in combat (NATO) 26 hours
Armament:
105mm High Velocity cannon
1 12.7mm AA MG
1 7.62 MG
12 smoke dispensers
ERA fitted
Cost: $800,000
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Centauro
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/centauro/images/centauro7.jpg
Crew: 4 (+ 4 troops for close defence configuration)
Height: 2735 mm
Width: 2945 mm
Length: 7850 mm
Weight in combat order: 25 tons
Main weapon: Otobreda 105/52 mm gun
Ammunition: 105 mm NATO rounds, 14 ready to fire plus 26 stowed (4 rounds stowed for close defence configuration)
Machine guns: two 7.62 mm NATO standard machine guns
Smoke grenade launchers: eight 80 mm launchers
Range: 500km
Top speed: 110 km/h
Cost: $1 Million
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XA-200
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/xa200/images/xa200_4.jpg
Crew: 2+10 fully armed troops
Length: 7450 mm
Width: 2950 mm
Height: 2600 mm
Weight: 14,500 kg
Combat weight: 22,000 kg
Fuel capacity: 300 litres
Maximum speed on road: 95 km/hr
Operating range: 600 km
Maximum gradient: 60%
Maximum side slope: 30%
Fording depth: 1.5 m
Armament:
1 12.7 MG
Grenade Launchers
Cost: $1 Million
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BTR-80
http://www.clandavidsonusa.com/wac/afvphotos/russian/btr80/btr-80.JPG
Crew: 10 (3+7)
Weight: 13,600 kg +3%
Power-to-weight ratio: 19.1 hp/t
Airportable: in An-22 and IL-76 aircraft
Protection: anti-bullet
Engine: 7403 four-stroke 8-cylinder, liquid cooled
Power: 260 hp
Communications R-173 radio set, R-173P radio receiver, R-174 intercom
Dimensions
Length 7.65 m
Width: 2.9 m
Height: 2.35 m
Track 2.41 m
Clearance 475 mm
Minimum external turning radius: 13.2 m
Tactical diameter of gyration at 6-7 km/hour: 20 m
Maximum speed
Road: 80 km/hour
Unpaved road: 20 - 40 km/hour
Afloat: 9 km/hour
Fuel endurance
Road: 600 km
Unpaved road: 200 - 500 km
Afloat range: 12 hours
Negotiable obstacles
Gradient: 30 degrees
Side slope: 25 degrees
Vertical obstacle: 0.5 m
Ditch: 2 m
Armament
30mm 2A72 Cannon
Coaxial machine guns: one 7.62 mm PKT
Ammunition allowance
KPVT machine gun: 500 cartridges
PKT machine gun: 2,000 cartridges
Traverse: 360 degrees
Elevation: -4 to +60 degrees
TNPO-115: Vision devices 11 pcs
TNP-165A night vision sight: 2 pcs
PAB-2M periscopic artillery aiming ring
Communications
R-173 radio: 2 sets, receive/transmit, UHF, simplex with frequency modulation
Frequency band: 30,000 - 75,999 kHz
Communication range (on the move and stationary)
with 3 m rod antenna: 20 km minimum
with 11m mast with VHF antenna, stationary: 40 km maximum
Navigation aids: TNA-4 navigation equipment; drift indicator mounted on turret
Weight: 14,400 kg (BTR-80A)
Turret type: armoured with open weapons mount
Turret weight with ammunition allowance: 1,580 kg (BTR-80A)
Armament
BTR-80A: 30 mm 2A72 automatic gun, 7.62 mm PKT coaxial machine gun
Fire control system: 1P3-6 day sight
Magnification: removable x1.2 and x4
TPN3-42 night sight with OU-5 illuminator
Magnification: x5.5 minimum
Aiming devices: dual-axis, manual
Vision devices: two TNPO-165A
Ammunition allowances:
30 mm automatic gun: 300 in two belts (150 each), one belt with AP-T, second with HEF-I and HE-T
7.62 mm PKT machine gun: 2,000 cartridges in one belt
Rate of fire:
Minimum: 200 rounds per minute
Maximum: 330 rounds per minute
Cost: $800,000
BTR-3U
http://www.jed.simonides.org/8x8afv/bravo/btr-80_series/guardian/guardian_006.jpg
Same vehicle as above but fitted with 4 ATGM's or SAMs, plus AGS-17 Grenade Launcher
Cost: $1 Million
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BTR-90
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/btr90-2.jpg
Wheel arrangement 8x8
Gross weight, kg 20,920
Combat crew 10
Engine liquid-cooled
supercharged multifuel diesel
Engine power, kW (hp) 368 (510)
Turning radius;
by means of steering wheels: 14m
differential-assisted turn: 6m
Clearance: 510mm
Maximum speed:
on road: 100 km/h
in water: 9 km/h
Road range: 800km
Armament:
2A42 gun 30mm
PKT machine gun 7.62mm
AG-17 grenade launcher 30mm
ATGM system
Laying angles:
elevation from: -5 to +75
azimuth: 360
Ammunition loads:
gun: 500
machine gun: 2,000
grenade launcher: 400
ATGM: 4
Cost: $1 Million

BTR-90M
http://www.kanwa.com/free/2003/03/btr%2090.jpg
Improvements:
BMP-3 turret with 100mm cannon and 30mm cannon
Cost: $1.2 Million
*Kliver ATGM system and Kaktus ERA plating can be added for $200k extra
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Artillery & MLRS
Grad BM-21:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/img001/grad01.jpg
Firing range km:
maximum: 20.7
minimum: 1.6
Rate of fire rounds/min: 20
Number of launch tubes: 40
Basic rocket weight: 67.6kg
Launch vehicle weight: 13.7t
Team: 6
Reload time: min 7
Time of bringing into operation mode: 2 Min.
Cost: $100,000
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HIMARS
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/himars/images/himars14.jpg
Crew: Three crew: driver, gunner, section chief
Weight: 24,000lb
Dimensions:
Length: 7m
Width: 2.4m
Height: 3.2m
Performance:
Vehicle range: 480km
Road speed: 85km/h
Rockets:
# of Rockets: 6
Max. Range: 70km
Max. Range w/ATACMS: 300km
Cost: $250,000
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Uragan 9K57
http://www.eurus.dti.ne.jp/~freedom3/uragan-1.jpg
Calibre: 220 mm
Vehicle: 8x8 truck chassis
Launch tube assembly: 16 launch tubes in two layers of six tubes with a layer of four tubes on the top
Rotation launcher in azimuth: 240 degrees
Stabilising jacks: 4
Reloading vehicle: 8x8 truck, with reloading arm, 16 rockets
Reload time: 24 Mins.
Cost: $350,000
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Smerch 9K58
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/smerch/images/smerch3.jpg
Crew: 4
Calibre: 300 mm
Firing range
Maximum: 70 km
Minimum: 20 km
Full ripple duration: 38 seconds
Number of launch tubes: 12
Basic rocket weight: 800 kg
Warhead weight: 235 kg
Launch vehicle weight: 43 tons
Minimum reload time: 36 min
Transloader carried rockets: 12
Cost: $500,000
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MSTA-S:
http://www.uralarms.ru/pict/obsch/msta-s.jpg
Maximum firing range:
HEF projectile: 24.7 km
HEF gas-assisted projectile: 28.5 km
Minimum firing range: 6.5 km
Maximum rate of fire: 8 rds/min
Elevation: +68 to -3 degrees
Traverse: 360 degrees
HEF projectile weight: 43.56 kg
Onboard ammunition load:
152 mm: 50 rounds
Machine gun: 300 cartridges
Mount weight: 42.5 tons
Crew: 5
Road speed: 60 km/hr
Road range: 500 km
Dimensions:
Length (gun forwards): 11.91 m
Width: 3.3 m
Height (to turret top): 2.98 m
Cost: $2 Million
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Crusader Artillery System:
http://pic.i4uuu.com/board/military/Artillery/Crusader.jpg
Rate of fire: 10 rounds per minute
Gunpointing: Fully automated
Ammunition handling: Fully automated
Ready to fire: 15 to 30 seconds
Time on target: 4 rounds from 5-30 km
Minimum range: 5 km
Maximum range: 40+ km
Mobility:
Road speed: 67 km/hr
Cross-country speed: 48 km/hr
Cost: $6 Million
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ICBMs
SS-25 Sickle TEL
http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/bcmt/images/ss_25_01.jpg
Comes with your choice of conventional, biological, chemical, or nuclear warheads.
Total length: 21.5m
Missile diameter: 1.8m
Launch weight: 45t
Missile range: 10,500km
Yield: .5mt
Cost: $15 Million
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AT Missiles
LOSAT
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/images/1_hmmwv_anti-tank.jpg
LOSAT prototype bieng tested from a HMMWV
Warhead: high density rod armour penetrator
Weight: 80 kg (177 lbs)
Performance:
Range: over 8 km
Velocity: 5,000 ft/sec
Armour penetration: heavy multi-plate, applique, explosive reactive armour (ERA)
Cost: $20,000
TOW Missile style tripod and firing system: $2,000



http://www.iraqwar.ru/show_image.php?id=565

Nice, FiK...

5000x TR-2000 ($27.5 bil)
2500x Leopard 2S ($11.25 bil)

Total is $38.75 billion. Wired on confirmation.

100 Leopards at $200million

Payment has been confirmed!

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Hm. We use the Abrams. M1A2/C to be exact. Just to spite this, we will not purchase anything.
A tank with ATGM firing turrent is much better than some "computerized" M1A2 crap

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Tut Tut Tut don't diss the Abrams. Of course mine are modified so they could own any of these tanks.

I'll take 2,000 Leopard Two's. Money is wired

But with the M-99 system you can easily fit 8 missiles on any tank, and you dont need to occupy valuble turret space with missiles. And not to mention the fact that you could potentialy fire off 9 rounds in the time it would take to fire 2.. hmmm

But with the M-99 system you can easily fit 8 missiles on any tank, and you dont need to occupy valuble turret space with missiles. And not to mention the fact that you could potentialy fire off 9 rounds in the time it would take to fire 2.. hmmm
Some tanks I've seen here have both separate missile launchers and ATGM-compatible turrents

what u mean the scorpion?
pic*of*the*scorpion*not*a*hijack* (http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=649a6e83-63d6-2424-1c6f-435f76103eea)

what u mean the scorpion?
pic*of*the*scorpion*not*a*hijack* (http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=649a6e83-63d6-2424-1c6f-435f76103eea)

Not only that.

ROFL @ "NOT GAY ASS ABRAMS"

Leopard 3 pwnz0rz so much

7000 Leopard 2s.


*Transaction Completed*

Hmm I wonder what is the right plural form of Abrams is it Abramses?

10 of each for test purposes please.

You said no M1 abrams but what about the M1A2 abrams? Will you sell that?

The M1A2 is still the abrams, just upgraded.

The M1A2 is still the abrams, just upgraded.
Yes i know that but he said "no dummass M1 abrams" or some thing like that so the M1A2 is still differnt than the M1.

CAN I PLZ HAVE 5 LEOPARD 1A4

Humm. Humm-humm. Well, we'll take
5,000x TR-2000.

OK

orders confirmed

Oly 8 rpm?

Im at 15 rpm lol

Hm. We use the Abrams. M1A2/C to be exact. Just to spite this, we will not purchase anything.
And I give a rat's ass how exactly? If you want to keep your M1A2/Coffins it's fine with me.

Lol Abrams is just a gas guzzler which cant even penetrate Kontakt-5 ERA on thje T-90 (US live fire tests in 1996 proved that)

Leopards are the shit!

Geforce4 would like to aquire 900 Leopard 2s and 1,050 Leopard1As

Oly 8 rpm?

Im at 15 rpm lol
my newer version fires 12 rpm

Oly 8 rpm?

Im at 15 rpm lol
my newer version fires 12 rpm
My newest ones at 15...

400 Tr 2000

2.2 bill

Im also intrested in Leopard engineering tanks

5,000 TR-2000
27 bil wired on confrimation and shipment

500 Leopard 2's please

all orders confirmed

FR- I have an idea for you to develop.

STRV 2000.

A cancelled Swedish tank, a further leopard upgrade, with a 140mm main gun and a 40mm coaxial autocannon.


Very powerful, but expensive.

I'll take 3000 TR-2000s

send 1000 to my Galahad Democratic Republic, someone is going to "liberate King Galahad from Omz222"

I'll take 3000 TR-2000s

send 1000 to my Galahad Democratic Republic, someone is going to "liberate King Galahad from Omz222"
Im only liberating TSE's portion dont worry

I'll take 3000 TR-2000s

send 1000 to my Galahad Democratic Republic, someone is going to "liberate King Galahad from Omz222"
Im only liberating TSE's portion dont worry
It is Apparations who wants to invade me, not you.

order confirmed

money wired

Yes the abrams gay but it always wins the NATO shoot-out....hmm I wonder why?

Yes the abrams gay but it always wins the NATO shoot-out....hmm I wonder why?
Because the rest of NATO has even worse tanks?

No it doesn't, Canadians usually win it.

No it doesn't, Canadians usually win it.
They have leopard 1ACs or something... i.e 30 year old tanks.

Yes the abrams gay but it always wins the NATO shoot-out....hmm I wonder why?
Because the rest of NATO has even worse tanks?Actually the contest contains non NATO countries also.

Yes the abrams gay but it always wins the NATO shoot-out....hmm I wonder why?
Because the rest of NATO has even worse tanks?Actually the contest contains non NATO countries also.
US live fire tests in 1996 showed no US 120mm rond could penetrate the T-90's armor.

Of course the T-90's gun cant penetrate Abrams either except from close range but abrams doesnt penetrate it period.

Well dark terror then it will take more then one shot.

Abrams are only good for its on-board computer

Well dark terror then it will take more then one shot.
In the same part of the tank though.

Well dark terror then it will take more then one shot.
In the same part of the tank though.Like-wise.

it's called "the canadian army trophy"

it's called "the canadian army trophy"Im thinking of the one in...its somewhere in Europe I think a base north of Hamburg somewhere.

No a shot on Abrams side by T-90 will kill it, as will a shot from 2 km or so.

The M1 was designed for maximum crew survivability

The M1 was designed for maximum crew survivability
T-72's knocked em out when abrams bypassed them then they shot them in their sides in Gulf War I... 14 or so were lost, at least a few by this method.

he crew survived but the tank was pretty useless.

9 of them were, but all the crews survived.

The M1 was designed for maximum crew survivabilityYes the ammunition and fuel will not detonate.Also Dark Terror how many T-90's does Russia posses?It can be many.

9 of them were, but all the crews survived.
But 9 tanks didnt.

The M1 was designed for maximum crew survivabilityYes the ammunition and fuel will not detonate.Also Dark Terror how many T-90's does Russia posses?It can be many.
Only a few hundred.
BUT:
T-90 is still a "quanity" tank, T-80U was the "quality" tank.

T-80UM1 was a further upgrade of the T-80U, and it equips RUssias Elite Tank Divisions (whatever theyre called).

Tanks are cheaper to replace than crews.

Tanks are cheaper to replace than crews.
Tank costs $4 mil, training 4 people costs maybe $100,000 total.

Morally a crew costs more, but Im not a very righteous country am I?

Tanks are cheaper to replace than crews.
Tank costs $4 mil, training 4 people costs maybe $100,000 total.

Morally a crew costs more, but Im not a very righteous country am I?
Actually the average U.S. soldier costs 1.5 million or so each in training and equipment. Probably more for speciallized crews, and the more that survive the more that aren't rookies

Out with one gay-ass tank and in with 3, great idea, i may try it :lol:

Tanks are cheaper to replace than crews.
Tank costs $4 mil, training 4 people costs maybe $100,000 total.

Morally a crew costs more, but Im not a very righteous country am I?
Actually the average U.S. soldier costs 1.5 million or so each in training and equipment. Probably more for speciallized crews, and the more that survive the more that aren't rookies
1.5 mil each?

WTF?


How does training someone cost $1.5 mil?

Hontah- LOL

WIth a lot opf live fire excercises, etc., maybe $250,000 per person.

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Well, heh, we have an unGodly ammount of cash poured into the training of our troops, as well as outfitting. One of the several reasons we have no huge military...
Eh I give them gunnery practice, etc., but with a $4 tril military budget I can afford it.

Those are dirty commie tanks!

Those are dirty commie tanks!
No thei not T tanks, what do you have to say about my T-80Um4's and T-95UE's?

Maybe liberal bush hating tanks is more appropriate?

Actually a standard us soldier costs 40,000 USD to train.Plus his specialazation in tanks,artillery whatever.

Maybe the number I said was for the spec ops forces

Maybe the number I said was for the spec ops forces :lol:

Still it pays in the end to only have to replace 9 tanks then 9 tanks and crews

added leclerc, Leo C2, and M-84

Still it pays in the end to only have to replace 9 tanks then 9 tanks and crews
The Black Eagle 2's I use are also safe... namely the only thing that destroys them is a high speed triple charged warhead or missile, if its a miossile it also cant be guided by lasers and if its slow arena and drozd-M will kill it.

Kaktus absorbs hits from any 120 or 125mm round.

bump

The Incorporated States of Andaman and Nicobar wishes to purchase 2,400 Leclerc MBT (God knows where we're going to find space to train with them) and $9.6bln will begin transfer upon confirmation.

-Mr.Giles, AaN Office of Government, FBCo.plc Board.

Order confirmed

I happen to like Abrams.

I happen to like Abrams.
I like them too...when my enemy is using them

:twisted:

My T-95UM3s have a 152mm smoothbore. That'll knock Abrams frontal out armor from 2.5 klicks away.

The TR-2000 can take one out at about the same distance

We use Merkava MK4 as our primary MBT, but have a large fleet of M1A2 Abrams with our own domestically developed upgrades added. The reason being that the M1A2 is faster than any of the tanks you are selling, many of which are rather mediocre as MBTs go.

How do these ones stack up against the T-90?

FR"s 135mm gun kills em from 3 km.

We use Merkava MK4 as our primary MBT, but have a large fleet of M1A2 Abrams with our own domestically developed upgrades added. The reason being that the M1A2 is faster than any of the tanks you are selling, many of which are rather mediocre as MBTs go.
actually the TR-2000 is faster than an abrams, and the M1 is a total maintenance whore.

And the T-90 is basically a repackaged T-72 with a new name to sound modern with some new toys. I'd rather have a Leopard or Leclerc than a T-90.

Canadians use Leopard C2's. I would know, I was just on our defence site ;)

We use Merkava MK4 as our primary MBT, but have a large fleet of M1A2 Abrams with our own domestically developed upgrades added. The reason being that the M1A2 is faster than any of the tanks you are selling, many of which are rather mediocre as MBTs go.
actually the TR-2000 is faster than an abrams, and the M1 is a total maintenance whore.

And the T-90 is basically a repackaged T-72 with a new name to sound modern with some new toys. I'd rather have a Leopard or Leclerc than a T-90.
T-90 has good armor tohugh.

order confirmed

200 Leapord 2s
Money will be wired upon confirmation

200 Leapord 2s
Money will be wired upon confirmation
confirmed

8,000 M-84A4's

OOC: So you don't sell Abrams, but you do sell every other "mainstream" tank, plus a few extra? At least it's a start ;)

We use exclusively domestic tanks ourselves...

As an aside, I don't think there is any tank gun in existance which can penetrate 1300mm of armor. Did you mean 130 (1300mm is 51 inches of armor!!)?

OOC: So you don't sell Abrams, but you do sell every other "mainstream" tank, plus a few extra? At least it's a start ;)

We use exclusively domestic tanks ourselves...

As an aside, I don't think there is any tank gun in existance which can penetrate 1300mm of armor. Did you mean 130 (1300mm is 51 inches of armor!!)?
It's not so much the gun as the shell it uses.

It's not so much the gun as the shell it uses.

OOC: There is no shell, of any caliber, that can take out more than four feet of solid Chobham armor plate (except maybe one larger than 12 inches)! Unless you pack a nuclear weapon into a 135mm casing and launch that, what the hell sort of shell do you use?

Sorry not trying to be hostile, just understand. It sounds worse than I meant :x

It's not so much the gun as the shell it uses.

OOC: There is no shell, of any caliber, that can take out more than four feet of solid Chobham armor plate (except maybe one larger than 12 inches)! Unless you pack a nuclear weapon into a 135mm casing and launch that, what the hell sort of shell do you use?

Sorry not trying to be hostile, just understand. It sounds worse than I meant :x
russians have a shell which penetrates 800mm using their 125mm gun. Mine is much higher velocity and a higher caliber, and my shell is more refined

bump for new TR-2000 version

5000x TR-2000-A2

money wired

Okay, the M1A2/C does not stand for M1A2/Crap. It stands for M1A2/Custom. Abrams against Leapord II's are just like diesel subs(whichwe also use) against nuclear.

Hah hah, you realise that a Diesel can beat the crap out of a Nuke sub in a Diesel's home waters?

In anycase, a Leo 2 is just as good as a M1A2, but in different area's.

You bought 5000 T-95s...why do you need so many tanks?

You bought 5000 T-95s...why do you need so many tanks?At first I only had 1000 heavy tanks, with 4000 light ones

After half of my navy is destroyed I'll concentrate on my ground force

2,200 Leclercs please

They are replacing my M1A1's

Is my T-95 a heavy tank?

Is my T-95 a heavy tank?
M1A2s

all orders confirmed

The gun on the Black Eagle penetrates 1000mm.... abrams has 800mm armor.

The gun on the Black Eagle penetrates 1000mm.... abrams has 800mm armor.

OOC: Damn you guys seem to be right (although most "official" sites list the armor thickness as "classified" ;))

Doesn't that seem impossible though? Multiple feet of armor... Never thought about it I guess. Perhaps I will rethink the armor layering on my own tanks...

Agrigento uses C1 Ariete Mk3's. Our own versions of the C1 Ariete. It has many upgrades, including a new armor package based on the Challengers Chobham.

Description of upgrades here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61317&highlight=)

The Ariete is a good MBT to paradrop

The Ariete is a good MBT to paradrop
It can be paradropped? Im getting Ariettes!

Well it's 48 tons compared to the 65 of the L2

Well it's 48 tons compared to the 65 of the L2
T-90 is 45... put the T-90's armor on the Ariette and voila.

Do you think it would be pointless to upgrade a M60A3? And is it rediculous for me to have 10,000 IS series tanks in storage?

Do you think it would be pointless to upgrade a M60A3? And is it rediculous for me to have 10,000 IS series tanks in storage?
M60A3 can be upgraded to M60-2000... the abrams turret, the abrams armor, the abrams suspension.

Or you can give it stuff from the TR-2000 I guess.

Up until the 70's the IS tank was the most heavily protected tank in europe I think

I need 5,000 of the TR-2000-A2's.

Money wired

Up until the 70's the IS tank was the most heavily protected tank in europe I think

But all that came at a heavy cost in mobility. Maybe giving it a modern engine and powerpackage would improve that.

Order confirmed.

Throw in an engine from the TR-2000 into an IS-2 and you got a fast bunker. Maybe I'll put some surplus Kontakt ERA...

The Empire of FPC would like to buy 5 Leopard C2. Here the mney you need.

*money wired*

I would like 10 Leclercs and 10 Leopard C2s for OpFor Training. The $52 million will be wired upon confirmation.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Leclerc.....OPFOR......HAHAHAHA!!!!

*falls out seat crying. Tries to get up, curses then falls over again*

Sounds like someones going to war on france....

orders confirmed

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Leclerc.....OPFOR......HAHAHAHA!!!!

*falls out seat crying. Tries to get up, curses then falls over again*

Sounds like someones going to war on france....

Maybe I am, and then again maybe I AM!! :twisted:

Italians took on the maginot line head on in WW2 and got a bloody nose!

From: The Mushroomius Terranean Forces

Despite our fondness for the M1 Abrams and its variants, we would like to make some purchases.

Leopard 2:
2,000 * 4,500,000=9,000,000,000

TR-2000:
2,000 * 6,000,000= 12,000,000,000

Monetary transfer will commence upon purchase confirmation.

Chancellor Toad

PS:Just a side note, I'd like to say that the Abrams isn't all bad. It is designed to protect the crew from nuclear blasts, though obviously not direct ones.

order confirmed

PS:Just a side note, I'd like to say that the Abrams isn't all bad. It is designed to protect the crew from nuclear blasts, though obviously not direct ones.

I personally prefer custom Edolian weaponry but I would like to point out that every tank has virtually the exact same NBC protection. Actually I'm not 100% sure of that, however, I'm pretty much positive. And the nuclear protection doesn't extend all that far. Mostly it protects against radiation, not the actual blast. Perhaps it could protect the tank from a small bomb's shockwave but...

So nice to see you back, Edolia!

So nice to see you back, Edolia!

[not getting the sarcasm]Why thank you my mooing friend.[/not getting the sarcasm]

The russians designed a tank which was built to survive a nuclear shockwave

The Attican Empire would like to order 120 Leopard C2s

order confirmed

Free Rumania I love you! finally people who dares to screw the american crap machines made of cardboard! :D:D

then buy some

I would like 50 Leopard 2's and 100 Leopard C2's

order confirmed

many of the tanks today were based off of the challenger and M1A2, they are the best tanks of thier times.

I will not purchase anything off your store

many of the tanks today were based off of the challenger and M1A2, they are the best tanks of thier times.

I will not purchase anything off your store
Black Eagle and T-94 own M1A2 :roll:

I would like to order 5000 tr-2000 and 2000 Leopard C2
cost- $33 billion

money wired

many of the tanks today were based off of the challenger and M1A2, they are the best tanks of thier times.

I will not purchase anything off your store
I'm so heartbroken!


orders confirmed

From: The Mushroomius Terranean Forces

Despite our fondness for the M1 Abrams and its variants, we would like to make some purchases.

Leopard 2:
2,000 * 4,500,000=9,000,000,000

TR-2000:
2,000 * 6,000,000= 12,000,000,000

Monetary transfer will commence upon purchase confirmation.

Chancellor Toad

PS:Just a side note, I'd like to say that the Abrams isn't all bad. It is designed to protect the crew from nuclear blasts, though obviously not direct ones.

Monetary transfer complete.

Apologies for the long wait, Free Rumania. When can we expect the tanks?

about 1 and a half years.

The Reichswehr of the Attican Empire would like to purchase 200 Leopard 2s at a cost of 900,000,000 Attican Credits (1 for 1 USD).

order confirmed

1,000 Leapord 2's

order confirmed

We would appreciate if you could rush our order as our nation has been in a constant state of war recently and the new equipment would be very helpful.

double post

they won't take long to get to you.

Attica do you want/need my help?

I'd like 200 Leopards please.

which version?

bump for new tanks

6,000 T-62's

We of the USSS are greatly interrested in a tank "drone," so to speak. Would it be possible to order, customly, a number of tank "shells," fully armored and powered, but capable of being controlled by an outside source and lacking weapons and all the complicated electronics that raise prices so much? We would be happy to pay a premium, of course.

We must ask, it seems as if the TR-series tanks cannot penetrate their own armor with their cannon. Is that correct; it seems to run in the face of historic tank development. Also we are a bit confused with the use of the word "armor;" we assume that the TR has the equivilant of 1600mm of steel plate, not that it actually has five feet of Chobham, right?

We apologise for our ignorance, just wishing to clear up some items.

OOC: The M1 Abrams is just as good as the Black Eagle or T-94 or any real-life made tank. They can all kill the other with a single shot, pretty much no matter where it hits. It just all comes down to superiority of electronics, which in the real world works in favor of the US; in Nationstates God only knows. Also I personally do not understand the fuss about reactive armor -- most countries have switched to sabot ammunitions, which ERA doesn't protect very much against, and it adds literally tons of weight, if you cover the whole thing.

Not meaning to be annoying, but isn't 50 tons a bit light for the TR-2000? The Abrams weights 60+ tons, depending on type, and the TR seems a fair bit beefier, ya know. ;)

Konkakt ERA on the T-72 makes it immune to 120mm shells fired from the M1A2. It was tested in 2000 and pissed everyone off. Konkakt reduces APFSDS rounds power by 30%

Konkakt ERA on the T-72 makes it immune to 120mm shells fired from the M1A2. It was tested in 2000 and pissed everyone off. Konkakt reduces APFSDS rounds power by 30%

OOC: Impressive. I hadn't heard of that...

Of course the USSS' MBT of choice uses HEAT rounds, which can be engineered around ERA with some mad engineering skillz (multiple-warhead stuff that most countries can't even build).

We would like some armored tank hulls so that we can fully test the effectiveness of our new tanks. Besides, the crews need something real, and really moving, to shoot at if they're going to get better.

(multiple-warhead stuff that most countries can't even build).

i use those

5,000 Leapord 2(s). Money will be wired upon confirmation.

Can i please have 200 M-55's, that should be 140,000,000, right?

*Money Wired*

If that happens to not be the right amount, just let me know how much more i owe u :)

I need 300 Leopard C2's
Cost is 450 Million Wired.

(multiple-warhead stuff that most countries can't even build).

i use those

I meant most RL countries, of course ;)

Did you miss my request/questions?

"At last a storefront that doesn't sell the best damn tank in the world"
woot! i'll take 900,000 of each tank!

Good evening. I wanna buy :

100 Leopard (S)
100 Leclerc MBT

The money will be send after confirmation.

BTW : that pic on the storefront, the burned tank...it is a M1A1 abrams? what happened to it?

The Tank Commanders Wife Found out he had another woman in there.

all orders except the usnavy one are confirmed

as soon as I get back on my other comp I will add the T-90 and TDR-3000

OCC: No Challenger 2s?

The United Socialist States of Renard

24 X Leopard 2s ($4'500'000 each): $108'000'000

Money wired upon confirmation and deliever (50:50).

OCC: No Challenger 2s?

The United Socialist States of Renard

24 X Leopard 2s ($4'500'000 each): $108'000'000

Money wired upon confirmation and deliever (50:50).
I will probably add the C-II later along with a few other tanks like the T-80 and Ariete.

Order confirmed

OCC: No Challenger 2s?

The United Socialist States of Renard

24 X Leopard 2s ($4'500'000 each): $108'000'000

Money wired upon confirmation and deliever (50:50).
I will probably add the C-II later along with a few other tanks like the T-80 and Ariete.

Order confirmed

--Funds Transferred

OOC: Show me some stats on how any of these other tanks have performed in combat. That's what counts, not the specs on paper.

Pretty well then. we have wired the money from our 200 tanks. hope to seem them around here soon.

OOC: Show me some stats on how any of these other tanks have performed in combat. That's what counts, not the specs on paper.
Go look it up yourself!

AMX-30 preformed OKly in Gulf War I, Leclerc is even better.

I will probably add the C-II later along with a few other tanks like the T-80 and Ariete.

Order confirmed

The Ariete is a great tank, especially with the upgraded armor package I provided.

Details Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61317)

1,000 Leclerc tanks and 1,000 arietes. Money wired upon confirmation.

I would like to order 1500 T-65's, 1000 TR-2000's, 400 Leopard C2's and 450 Leopard 2's

orders confirmed

bump

The Federation of North Arkansas would like to order the following


10 TDR-3000: $7 Million

10 TR-2000

5 Leopard 2 (S)

5 Leopard 1A5

20 M-55

Thank you

order confirmed

2000 TDR-3000, to upgrade our 2300 TR-2000s.

order confirmed

400 Leopard 1A5 Tanks at 480 million

:twisted: i'll take 500 leopard c2's plz money wired :twisted:

T-62 Morozov MBT -5

orders confirmed

5000x TDR-3000 ($35 b)
7500x TR-2000-A2 ($45 b)
5000x Leopard C2 ($7.5 b)
10000x T-90M ($40 b)

$127.5 billion, total. When should I expect delivery?

10 years for all the TDR-3000's, and 8 years for the rest

Also I'll give u a 17.5 billion dollar discount for the big order.

If you survive, please come again!

Money wired, thank you

Thank you much, money is wired.

bump

soon to be added:

T-80 of some sort
Challenger II
Type-90(Jp)
Ariete

many of the tanks today were based off of the challenger and M1A2, they are the best tanks of thier times.

I will not purchase anything off your store

I agree and will boycott your store ha!

Oh no! 2 RETARDS WON'T BUY MY TANKS! BOO-FUCKING-HOO!


:cry: :cry: :cry:

:roll:

Good you deserve to have a good cry you damn pinko.

Good you deserve to have a good cry you damn pinko.

The Kingdom of Free Rumania
"Deseapta-te, Române!"

UN Category: Capitalist Paradise
Civil Rights: Very Good Economy: Frightening Political Freedoms: Some

Location: The Romanian Kingdom
The Kingdom of Free Rumania is a huge, economically powerful nation, renowned for its compulsory military service. Its hard-nosed, hard-working population of 368 million are either ruled by a small, efficient government or a conglomerate of multinational corporations; it's difficult to tell which.

The large, pro-business government juggles the competing demands of Commerce, Defence, and Education. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 10%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Automobile Manufacturing industry, followed by Uranium Mining and Information Technology.

Education and welfare spending are on the rise, corporations donate huge sums of money to favored politicians, scientists regularly clone human beings for research purposes, and organ donation is compulsory. Crime is a serious problem, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Free Rumania's national animal is the fox, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation, and its currency is the lei.

Free Rumania is ranked 1st in the region and 3,733rd in the world for Largest Furniture Restoration Industry.

bump

soon to be added:

T-80 of some sort
Challenger II
Type-90(Jp)
Ariete

suggestion:

Merkava III variant (Holds 4-6 combat infantry as well) www.globalsecurity.org

bump

soon to be added:

T-80 of some sort
Challenger II
Type-90(Jp)
Ariete

suggestion:

Merkava III variant (Holds 4-6 combat infantry as well) www.globalsecurity.org
Western Asia sells them and he is a friend of mine so I won't.

"I am a a commie pinko bastard and I love russia and stalin and all russian things even though I am from romania but im sill communist and only chose issues that make my nations into captialist to have a good economy"

You should cry because I can buy 389,501 T-90s but im not ganna :P

"I am a a commie pinko bastard and I love russia and stalin and all russian things even though I am from romania but im sill communist and only chose issues that make my nations into captialist to have a good economy"

You should cry because I can buy 389,501 T-90s but im not ganna :P
I suggest you to stop hijacking FiK's threads...

What do you feel when he hijacked your storefront, anyways? think about that.

how creative. What's next? Mom jokes?


And last time I checked the Leopard 2, C2, 1A5, and Leclerc were not Russian. And the T-62 Morozov is Ukrainian, the M-55 is Slovakian, and the M84A4 is Yugoslavian. And Russia is a cool place, Stalin was an interesting guy, and my military mostly uses idigenous equipment based off real things. And how would you pay for maintenance on 390,000 tanks you redneck?





















DUMBASS!

feel when he hijacked your storefront, anyways? think about that.
good idea

What do you feel when he hijacked your storefront, anyways? think about that.
I felt very pissed off when he highjacked one of my store threads a few months ago thank you very much.

anarctica don't be mad because FR's stuff is so good and yours blows horribly!

bump

new tanks

500 Leclercs Money wired upon confirmation

That pic of the destroyed Abrams is not very nice!!!!!!!!*Cough Damn faggots Cough*.

That pic of the destroyed Abrams is not very nice!!!!!!!!*Cough Damn faggots Cough*.
war's not nice

order confirmed

bump

25,000 T-62's

money wired

order confirmed

bump

Do you still have Leopard 2's in stock?

Even though it's not listed, do you have/can you get me any Leopard 2A6's?

The Leopard 2(S) is basically the 2A6 but a little better, if you want a 2A6 i'll sell them for 4 mil each

Then I'll take 250 Leopard 2(s)s, please for $1.125 billion.

*Wired*

order confirmed

bump

5000 T-62s

5 Bill wired on confirm

order confirmed

1000x TR-1500

order confirmed

Money wired, thank you.

We'll also grab 2000 TR-2000-A3s

5,000 Leopard 2 S. We will wire 2.25 billion USD wired now. Dont deliver them to Bonstock. For each tank, 4 crew members, 4 infantry, and 8 engineers/support personnel will be going to Rumania, and will drive them into the Ukraine. Can you include 500 gas trucks and 500 ammo trucks? This is sort of an emergency.

Bonstocknian commercial flights are now carrying 80,000 personnel to Free Rumania to drive the tanks to Ukraine.

[subliminal messaging]Go buy the Ariete, Go buy the Ariete, Go buy the Ariete, Go buy the Ariete[/subliminal messaging]

5,000 Leopard 2 S. We will wire 2.25 billion USD wired now. Dont deliver them to Bonstock. For each tank, 4 crew members, 4 infantry, and 8 engineers/support personnel will be going to Rumania, and will drive them into the Ukraine. Can you include 500 gas trucks and 500 ammo trucks? This is sort of an emergency.

Bonstocknian commercial flights are now carrying 80,000 personnel to Free Rumania to drive the tanks to Ukraine.
No problem. Order is confirmed.

money wired, thank you

We'll grab 1000 more TR-1500s

1,000 Leapord 2's Please

Money wired upon confirmation

orders confirmed

money wired thank you

bump

I would like to buy 100 of your TDR 3000 MBT the money is wired we await delivery

order confirmed

We would like to purchase 1000 of the TDR-3000's and 2000 of the TR-2000's Money Auto-wired upon confirmation

order confirmed

200 TR-1500 please

Reserves need nourishment.

order confirmed

*Money Wired*

can i get 6000 TDR3000 at asking price plz?

I don't think you can afford that many. But I will sell u 600.

APCs Finally

1000 Badger MICV 2.4 bill

Wired on confirm

edit :put mill istead of bill sorry

order confirmed

10,000 Badger MICV's please

And yes, I do have the money.

1,000 TDR 3,000's
money wired upon confirmation

orders confirmed