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The Sambizie Areospace industrie is seeking contractors to bid on the manufacturing of the SA 43 Endo Exo Atmospheric Fighter Jet (Hammerhead).
All interested candidates should express as to why they believe their nation should be selected as the Primary contractor of this fighter. Furthermore, the nation who can manufacture these at the lowest manufacturing costs will be considered. The Republic of Sambizie reserves all rights and decessions are final.
President Uganda.
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Western Asia's major defense contractors, GINY, GIAI, GIMI, El Op, and RAFAEL have all proposed to join their efforts to bid for this production offering.

These companies use advanced construction processes and modular subsystems to drive down production costs on the front-end and to make unit upkeep and maintenance simple and easy on the back-end.

GIAI and the other companies have recently embarked on such projects as Western Asia's Sentinel and Condor projects (the first is a manned version of the Terminator Aerial Hunter-Killer and the second is a troop landing craft based on the Sentinel that can carry a large number of men quickly to an enemy shore) and other projects, which involve large-scale, advanced weapons systems. Those projects also involved the use of AI-assisted use of secondary weapons (such as the turreted weapon atop your designs).

These companies have estimated production costs to be in the range of 35-55million dollars a unit not counting the profit margin for Sambizie...but that is just a preliminary bid and costs may end up being a bit higher.

These companies have extensive construction facilities in Western Asia with some satellite facilities in nations that they have business relationships with.

OOC: Not sure what type of aircraft it is (meant to enter space or not?) so tell me if I should adjust the bid at all.

Western Asia, your bid has been reconized. We will contact the nations who qualify. We once again thank you for your bid. The bidding will continue until tomorrow. At that time we will announce the contractor.


OOC: Been away for a bit. That other project is "shelfed" for now. We will keep you posted on the developments. :lol:

OOC: Not sure what type of aircraft it is (meant to enter space or not?) so tell me if I should adjust the bid at all.
Yes, it will enter space or from space through an atomosphere.

OOC: Ok. I'll try to keep in this a bit.

Sambizie, your good friends in the Republic of Adejaani wishes to submit a bid on this fighter. We have held your nation in the highest esteem for a very long time, but that should not influence the outcome.

An Endo-Exo Atmospheric fighter would greatly affect military operations above or below. Control of space, in addition to command, reconnaisance and communications in the form of GPS and satellite communications would mean the ability to strike any target in the world with impugnity.

In the defensive arena, control of space would similarly deny any enemy the same advantages over friendly territories. An Endo-Exo Atmospheric fighter would also serve as a logical first step in the push to outer space.

Although our manufacturing capacities are a bit weak, nevertheless, the Republic of Adejaani will be able to manufacture each Hammerhead for an initial sale price of around $40 million, with newer units in the $30 million range. Profits to Sambizie would come in the form of a cut, not in sales, but in number of frames manufactured (meaning if they don't sell, Sambizie gets a profit anyway).

Thank you for your cooperation.

Isla de Penguinata does not wish to produce the said aircraft, but we do wish to make a reserve purchase of 500. Is that possible? Or should we wait?

Adejaani, Your request has been reconized by the Republic. We thank you for your bid.

Isla de Penguinata does not wish to produce the said aircraft, but we do wish to make a reserve purchase of 500. Is that possible? Or should we wait?

Stay tuned for further developments. Your request has been noted and for expressing an early intrest in quanity, you may receive priority preferance.

Thank you very much. When your product is ready, would you please telegram me?

Thank you very much. When your product is ready, would you please telegram me?

We will try, as stated...stay tuned..lol
And thanks.

OOC: Oh, and Sambizie, my friend, nice to see another S:AAB fan out there. :D

:wink:

Estimates on this craft put the first 100 at ~39 Million, with continuing at ~25 million.
Now, on to why-
Although we lack the pure might of Western Asia, we make up for it in our ability to quickly produce and efficiently upgrade this craft should any problems occur. We have several companies experienced in this field-Operadyne Incorporated-Designed and tested the computer and electronics systems of USNE aircraft for over 30 years. Recently designed a Combat AI for the UF-13 Marauder Unmanned Fighter
Franham&Kelly Industrial-Provided the building material and assembly of aircraft in all fields. Also hired to construct internal frames for all USNE spacecraft.
LMB Systems-Major designer in the field of Aerospace. Recently finished the Mark 5 Aerospaceplane, a first in USNE space combat technology.

New Empire, Your bid is reconized, Thank you.


OOC: You wanna tem up on the Roman Thingy?

*bump* for bids..lol

Hmm, only a few to choose from, this should make it easy.
A well calculated BUMP...lol But since your here, bid for the contract

Hmm, only a few to choose from, this should make it easy.
A well calculated BUMP...lol But since your here, bid for the contract

Well, what do you wnat? Cheap production? Based on the stuff I got from the SDF and my VFs, I could probly put these things out for35, maybe 40 mil a pop.

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We'll keep in touch friend.

OOC: As long as you are here, I require 100,000 Pulse Rifles & 100,000 Smart guns..lol

Somehow, Imitora, I doubt that.

We at Sniper Country recommend Western Asia for this bid.

Well thanks for the input SC, we have worked with WA before...but no final ans. till tomorrow.

Somehow, Imitora, I doubt that.

We at Sniper Country recommend Western Asia for this bid.

Didnt you go to some armpit country for god or soemthing? You see, if you had been paying attention, you would know I could. I'd explain it to you why, but your brain is probably a weee bit to small to comprehend it.

EDIT:

Sambizie, that'll be 900,000 for the pulse rifles and 100,000,000 (100,000x1000) for the smart guns.

OOC: Money TG'd.

Thank you much SMan, your rifles are on teh way.

Sambi,
I forgot to mention that GIAI assisted in the prototyping and now the production of Raysia's Archangel fighter jet, a demonstration of our technological aptitude and ability to construct high-quality aerial fighting units.

Sambi,
I forgot to mention that GIAI assisted in the prototyping and now the production of Raysia's Archangel fighter jet, a demonstration of our technological aptitude and ability to construct high-quality aerial fighting units.

VERY OOC: I am dead tired, can you post a link or something? I'll check it out tomorrow :D

The RF-11 Archangel (in catalogue): http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1028531#1028531

The in-forum development:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53636&highlight=

The RF-11 Archangel (in catalogue): http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1028531#1028531

The in-forum development:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53636&highlight=

OOC: Oh, Ok...I remember these..lol

The contract proposals have been reviewed and we have narrowed it down to 2 nations. Please understand that we are seeking rapid development along with added weaponary. The provider will be basically responsible for the complete manufacturing of a working fighter jet. The weapons will be upgraded and revised by the Sambizie Areospace Division and Department of Defence. Be it known, that said manufacturer may NOT produce said craft for sale to any other nation than Sambizie. The contracting nation may, however alot room for their own production and sale. The Sambizian production quota MUST be considered a priority however. The contracting nation, when announced, may begin discussion on contract liabilities, responsibilities and cost effective production, on this thread.
In advance, We would like to thank all those who applied and the decession was difficut. As stated, we will announce the "Hammerhead" contractor shortly.
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Respectfully,
Foreign Diplomat/The Allied Powers
President Mwto'ar Uganda

Lunkwill & Fook Aerospace will be glad to take on this contracting job.

The Republic of Sambizie has made a decesion. The SA-43 Endo Exo Atmospheric Fighter will be awarded to Western Asia. In advance, I would like to thank all who applied. This was a difficult decesion to make. But we feel, at this time that Western Asia will be able to meet the production demands of Sambizie.

Western Asia: Please detail a production time frame. We can also discuss the selling of and rights of the SA-43E/E.

APTO: Members, In conjunction with this fighter we are starting pelimary R&D of the SA-43E/E Carrier Ship, The "Sarratoga". We would like to offer this contract to all interested members of the AP. Please post your involvement of the Sarratoga on this thread as well.
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Again, Thanks to ALL
Mwto'ar Uganda.

The following proposal has bee pushed forward by a consortium of Western Asian arms manufacturers:

A set of 5 prototypes will be produced for system integration and durability testing. It is expected that these prototypes will be completed within 6 NS month with the next 2 months dedicated to testing and system improvements. Within 3 months of the completion of the prototypes (1 month of the completion of testing), mass production should be ready to begin...with the first set of 10 jets produced the first month (from the first factory) and 30 per factory for each following month. We expect to build 5 factories at first, with the possibility of constructing more if more than 150 are needed per month.

We cannot tell what the bottom-line will be in terms of cost, but, as usual, the more jets that people wish to purchase the lower the price can drop (to some extent).

OOC: If you want any specific specs for size, performance, et. al. then please tell me.

IC:

There is a matter concerning the weaponry of this craft. While conventional missiles and guns work well in atmospheric conditions, directed energy weapons (like lasers) and rockets are best for extra-atmospheric conditions.


On the construction of the craft: Heat- and blast-resistant ceramic tiles and titanium panels will cover the outside of the craft, with steel, aluminum, carbon-polymer, composite materials, and titanium forming certain internal structural elements.


Also, are there to be 1 or 2 pilots (or will there be two versions, as in the F-18 series of jets, where one is single-piloted and the other has 2 cremembers, one pilot and one weapons-officer or trainee pilot)? This will affect the effectiveness of the weaponry as is included in the top-mounted turret. Targeting AI, with IFF abilities, can help a single pilot use the weaponry but it would seem that a two-pilot system would be more effective in certain missions.


The engines will need to be dual-use engines, with an air-breathing engine component for atmospheric combat and a rocket engine component for extra-atmospheric actions (can be achieved by using a portion of the air-breathing engine to form the rocket portion). The complexity of this machine will vary greatly based on the top-speed of the craft.


There are sure to be other issues at a later point in time, but these are the major issues.

OOC: If you want any times to be less just tell me.

Western Asia:

This all seems in order. The manufacturing time is acceptable.

There is a matter concerning the weaponry of this craft. While conventional missiles and guns work well in atmospheric conditions, directed energy weapons (like lasers) and rockets are best for extra-atmospheric conditions.

We have a solution for the weponary. When the fighter is in the atmosphere it will be eqipped with conventional weaponary. There are 3 missile bays on each wing that is adaptable to carry most modern missiles. The bats are not fitted for any one type of missile, rather a universal clamping device that is adjustable. Guns will operate as 2 "fixed"
barrels on the nose of the jet. A 40second,(burn time)"coventional flare pod is in the rear of the jet.

While in space, the Hammerhead is equipped with 2 missile bays that can fire 3 missiles each. (The missiles are loaded somewhat like a shotgun cartridge) These bays are already designed a specific type of missile class. The bays may also substitute for 2 Torpedoes of a specific class. Laser mounts are also fixed on the nose. There are 2 double-barrel guns. Two will fire Anti-Shield lasers,(For the depleatin of energy based shields, causes no hull damage) and 2 will fire Plasma Lasers, (Used when shields are near depleation and to inflict hull damage). NOTE: The pilot will have to "toggle" through the various weapons in the following manner:
-Primary:
1.Atmospheric Guns
2. AS lasers
3. Plasma lasers.
-Secondary
1. atmospheric missiles
2. Classified
3. Torpedoes

Also, are there to be 1 or 2 pilots (or will there be two versions, as in the F-18 series of jets, where one is single-piloted and the other has 2 cremembers, one pilot and one weapons-officer or trainee pilot)? This will affect the effectiveness of the weaponry as is included in the top-mounted turret. Targeting AI, with IFF abilities, can help a single pilot use the weaponry but it would seem that a two-pilot system would be more effective in certain missions.

This will be a single pilot craft. There will be two versions, Fighter and Bomber. The Bomber version is slightly larger, less wing weapons and larger Torpedo bay underneath. it will also incorporate a lager gun on the front. The bomber version is classified and will be announced in the future, which by the way will most likely be your contract.

As for the Engine(s), lets go with what you have for now. When the craft is tested, we will determine if the speed is acceptable. We have various designs but would like to test these first.

M. Uganda

OOC: Hope this clears things up a little. If you need to know the specifications of the missile and torpedos that will be used, please tg me. These weapons are still classified, but it may help you in the manufacturing process.
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Dammit, I really needed the Hammerhead design! So.....

For the Saratoga (it's really the John F Kennedy type) carrier, the Republic of Adejaani is hereby publicly announcing that with the spending of 700 BILLION dollars to create a massive aerospace and space manufacturing industry.

Already, surface to atmosphere movers for personnel and cargo, as well as extensive starports on the surface. In orbit, construction is beginning on two massive staryards capable of building ships a kilometre long.

The Republic of Adejaani is NOT going to be undersold. We have spilled too much of our pride, energy, budget and soul into this. As such!

In order to secure production rights for the Saratoga class carrier:

1: An "up front" payment of five hundred BILLION dollars for research and development
2: An "up front" payment of one TRILLION dollars for the specifications
3: A production time of seven real life days (because of two shipyards, two ships can be produced) for each ship
4: A sale price of 60 billion dollars, matched dollar for dollar in royalty to Sambizie
5: Free upgrades for all customers as new equipment becomes available

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

Western Might would like to put in a bid for the Sarratoga disign contract Strarting at 2 trillion.

I will take 4000 when they come out.


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European Defence Federation Member
European Red Cross Member

Dear President Harrington,

We are truly sorry that the "Hammerheads" contract was not awarded to you. Upon the completion of the Hammerhead, you being a close friend and ally will be entitled to the specifications. We accept your offer for the JFK Class (Desination SCVN 28-12), and are inclosing the following "Deck" configuration and Technical data:
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Respectfully,
Mwto'ar

Well, with all this happening, I guess it must be time to launch a Northampton.

Well, with all this happening, I guess it must be time to launch a Northampton.
OOC: :lol: :wink:

Thank you, Sambizie. The cost to the national economy has been staggering, but it is a worthy investment.

As promised, 1.5 TRILLION dollars has been wired for the plans.

Construction will not yet begin as the shipyards are still being built. Nevertheless, as further promised, 120 billion will be wired to you upon completion (two RL weeks) of the first two JFK class carriers.

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

OOC: Not a problem friend, you deserve it. :lol:

Adejaani since you got the the plans for the Sarratoga do you wish for any help in building the carriers? I can provide eney engineers and the use of two of my construction yards.

Rushe Lee High Lord of Western Might

Adejaani since you got the the plans for the Sarratoga do you wish for any help in building the carriers? I can provide eney engineers and the use of two of my construction yards.

Rushe Lee High Lord of Western Might

Construction should be fine, I've got advanced shipyards being constructed. However, I, at present have no Air Wing for my carrier, so I intend to place a heavy amount of Cruiser type weaponry to make up for this deficit (until I can develop my own space fighters).

If you can provide advanced weapons tech, I am willing to exchange one Saratoga or equivalent monetary aid in exchange. :)

The joint commission that has been formed to coordinate efforts between the various companies involved is known as the "Hammerhead Group."(OOC: I'm assuming that that's what the nick-name will be?)

The group has adopted the following symbol:
http://nift.firedrake.org/genre/graphics/f_Hammerhead.gif

Conceptual designers have converted the provided drawings into concept models, which can be seen below.

http://www.geocities.com/neoengel127/hammer02.jpg
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Concept Drawings/Renderings:
http://mateengreenway.com/saab/hammer.jpg
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Our planners are hard at work developing the plans on CAD-CAM and the materials for the first mock-up (non-space-capable aerodynamic and atmospheric performance demonstrator, uses cheap replacement metals and composites to cut prototyping costs) have been prepared. We estimate that this initial prototype can be deployed within 3 months (3 RL days).

The final design should have decent supersonic capabilities within the atmosphere but hypersonic capabilities are not expected to be included due to cost and construction concerns.

OOC: On some of the photos/drawings 2 weapons pylons (each bearing 3 missiles or rockets) are seen...should I take it that this is the main missile/rocket carrying location?

I think that I have a technology that I'm working on with GMC that could be of use in this fighter.

Adejaani since you got the the plans for the Sarratoga do you wish for any help in building the carriers? I can provide eney engineers and the use of two of my construction yards.

Rushe Lee High Lord of Western Might

Perhaps there will be a contract in your future WM. The "plans" are classified and are the sole property of Sambizie.

OOC: On some of the photos/drawings 2 weapons pylons (each bearing 3 missiles or rockets) are seen...should I take it that this is the main missile/rocket carrying location?

Yes, those are the missile mounts for the "conventional" purpose.

OOC: Ok, I have a concept on how to store and launch smaller-sized missiles (perhaps small anti-fighter rockets for space uses) that I thought up for my Sentinel. TM about it.

OOC: Ok, I have a concept on how to store and launch smaller-sized missiles (perhaps small anti-fighter rockets for space uses) that I thought up for my Sentinel. TM about it.

I would say use it..if it can meet the specifications I TG'ed you about. This the concept I was shootin for:
Atmospheric weapons placed externally.
Space based weapons stored internally.

So if we can get that to work(Internal) and being able to "Mix" the two types, That would be great.
MU

Sounds like the Gentari fighter developed by Elara for both space and atmospheric. :D


Has different kinds of weapons for each. Very fast , very maneuverable.

Sounds like the Gentari fighter developed by Elara for both space and atmospheric. :D


Has different kinds of weapons for each. Very fast , very maneuverable.

Perhaps we could give them both a test, mock Dog fight, when these are finished?
MU

Sounds good to me , should be interesting.

Sounds good to me , should be interesting.

Good, It's a deal then. I will notify you when we have a ready product.

UPDATE: Construction of the first prototype is progressing well. A pair of ramjet engines of appropriate size and power have been fitted and the control panels have been designed and mock-ups of the panels have been built.

Virtual flight testing based on the form of the craft have approved atmospheric flights of the design up to above Mach 2.4, with a maximum entry velocity (from space) of about Mach 6-11 (using engines and ship angle to slow it further, complicated maneuvers should not be attempted at this speed below 180,000 feet. If there is an immediate danger posed then the craft should angle up and move to an area with less atmosphere to respond).


To provide for rapid, precise adjustments to the angle of the Hammerhead's movement outside of the atmosphere, small jets have been positioned at 2 sites on each side of the body (2 jets, placed 1 foot apart, at each spot (placed near the extremes)), 2 sites on the top and bottom of the body (again, 2 jets, placed 1 foot apart, at each spot (placed near the extremes)), and at 2 sites on the top and bottom of each wing (one site past the hinge and one side just short of the hinge, jets placed similarly distanced from one another as at other sites).

(OOC: This was first used for such maneuverings of aircraft capable of both powered atmospheric and extra-atmospheric flight in the X-15 demonstrator craft.)

The maneuvering jets are provided with their own energy sources and are computer-controlled. This ensures that a pilot's movements of the craft will be rapidly, but safely, contolled. In the event of a computer shut-down, manual control of the jets is possible, but combat capability is so severely limited that the simulations suggest that the best response is to use the jets only to escape the scene.

[quote=Elara]Perhaps we could give them both a test, mock Dog fight, when these are finished?
MU

I say 1 on 1 on 1. If my, calculations are correct, I should have teh VF-19s out by the time these pop out, and if not, I still got the VF-11s.

Thanks for the update Western Asia, everything souns great.

Imitora: 1 on 1 on 1 sounds great, as pilots find themselves in multiple engagements.

ELARA: Say hi to your new project from the Republic of Sambizie:

SIDE VIEW:
http://www.stguardian.to/alien/breen/breenbattleshipside.jpg
BOTTOM:
http://www.stguardian.to/alien/breen/breenbattleshipbottom.jpg

I will send the specifications shortly.
M.Uganda

Adejaani:

We have received your TG. We will authorize the following manufacturing of the ISSCV-Endo Exo Transatmospheric InterSteller Space Cargo Vehicle AND the ISSCV/APC-Armoured Personnel Vehicle

NOTE:On the condition that, (a) You do not make available to the community until I say. (b) You do not make available the JFK and Hammerhead until I say. (c) You do not make available ANY blueprints of the above mentioned until approved by me. I do NOT wan't these to "hit" the market before I have a substantial fleet. We can offset production with our assistance. Furthermore, you DO NOT have sole "production Rights" of the Hammerhead. It was given to you to research and prepare you for production in the future. You must agree, that the production of the JFK Class Carrier and the ISSCV/APC is for ME and YOU ONLY. If you agree to these terms NOTIFY ME, and I will make available the data and technical information on this thread

M. Uganda

Thanks for the update Western Asia, everything souns great.

Imitora: 1 on 1 on 1 sounds great, as pilots find themselves in multiple engagements.

ELARA: Say hi to your new project from the Republic of Sambizie:

SIDE VIEW:
http://www.stguardian.to/alien/breen/breenbattleshipside.jpg
BOTTOM:
http://www.stguardian.to/alien/breen/breenbattleshipbottom.jpg

I will send the specifications shortly.
M.Uganda


I happily accept the project. My scientists and engineers will love this one.

We thank you again Elara, please keep us posted.
Mwto'ar

Adejaani:

We have received your TG. We will authorize the following manufacturing of the ISSCV-Endo Exo Transatmospheric InterSteller Space Cargo Vehicle AND the ISSCV/APC-Armoured Personnel Vehicle

NOTE:On the condition that, (a) You do not make available to the community until I say. (b) You do not make available the JFK and Hammerhead until I say. (c) You do not make available ANY blueprints of the above mentioned until approved by me. I do NOT wan't these to "hit" the market before I have a substantial fleet. We can offset production with our assistance. Furthermore, you DO NOT have sole "production Rights" of the Hammerhead. It was given to you to research and prepare you for production in the future. You must agree, that the production of the JFK Class Carrier and the ISSCV/APC is for ME and YOU ONLY. If you agree to these terms NOTIFY ME, and I will make available the data and technical information on this thread

M. Uganda

We acknowledge and thank our greatest of friends, Sambizie, for this opportunity. The Republic of Adejaani and confirms (for the record) the following:

1: The Republic of Adejaani ACKNOWLEDGES that any JFK carriers, Hammerheads and ISSCV produced will remain the property of the Republic of Adejaani
2: The Republic of Adejaani ACKNOWLEDGES the nation of Sambizie has final say on the release of all manufactured products mentioned above
3: The Republic of Adejaani AFFIRMS THAT blueprints in the possession of the Republic of Adejaani will be under constant guard and surveilance at all times, unless authority has been given by the nation of Sambizie to release them
4: The Republic of Adejaani is GRATEFUL for the permission to produce and procure all of the above mentioned products for use within the Republic of Adejaani Aerospace Corps
5: The Republic of Adejaani ACKNOWLEDGES the production of all of the above mentioned products remains solely with the Republic of Adejaani and the nation of Sambizie

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

Very well, Here are the specs:
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The Inter Solar System Armored Personnel Carrier is designed to interface with the ISSCV, and provides the means of transportation for military operations. It has been nicknamed "Flying Winnebago", due to its resemblance to that vehicle.
http://www.space-readyroom.de/SAAB_Isscv_3.jpg
Specs:
Endo-Exo Trans-atmospheric InterStellar Space Cargo Vehicle/Armoured Personnel Vehicle
Primary Function : A smaller transport ship used to travel from one system to another.
Manufacturer :
Length : 50 meters
Height : 4.8 meters
Wingspan : 4 meters
Ferry range: N/A
Combat radius: N/A
Fighter mission: N/A
Attack mission: N/A
Manoeuverability: N/A
Propulsion : 6 HE3 Fuselage Core Realspace Thrusters with 7.6 Gs max acceleration
Engines : 2 SCAMjet intakes for Atmospheric Flight
Armament : Nose mounted 12 megawatt twin laser pulse cannon turret capable of 180 degree swivels but with low elevation and depression, a back mounted 8.4 megawatt twin laser pulse cannon turret capable of 360 degree and -3 depression swivels that are used with a headgear guide and two side hatch mounted 10 mm Gauss laser machine cannons located at the starboard and port sections of the ship.
Features: The vessel carries a box-like cargo or troop compartment, which can be dropped off.
LIDAR : Laser Infrared/Imaging Detection And Ranging. Long Range, configurable. Can track and engage up to 100 independent targets.
HUD : Heads-Up Display. Mainly used for displaying flight parameters, navigational information and overall combat intelligence.
ODP : Optical Disk Playback. Used for mission data recordings. Can be used lateron for mission evaluation.
Crew : 2 pilots / 1 board sniper / 1 navigator
Introduction date: N/A
Unit Replacement Cost: N/A

Mission: This is the main combat configuration of the ISSCV series. The APC is capable of transporting 30 soldiers to touch down and extraction sites. The APC module also contains an EW station equipped with a LIDAR system capable of monitoring enemy activity.
http://www.space-readyroom.de/SAAB_Isscv_1.jpg
The Inter Solar System Cargo Vessel is a large, rectangular modular containment vessel capable of carrying human and mechanical cargo alike. The ISSCV is transported by the ISSAPC, and can serve as a base of operations.

ScRAMScoop/Jet Propulsion
Propulsion system using huge electromagnetic fields to collect interstellar hydrogen and then with the aid of controlled fusion, push the drive forward at sublight speeds. As the speed of the object increases, the drive becomes more efficient -- as does the effect of relativity. Ramscoop drives cannot operate at speeds of less than 700 m/s due to the incredible sparsity of hydrogen in interstellar space.

Eckerly Drive
Travel through normal space was powered by a fusion engine. An electromagnetic ramscoop collects the interstellar free hydrogen, filters the deuterium from the normal hydrogen and pumps both elements to the drive bottle. In the drive bottle, the deuterium is accelerated to .9c and is collided with a stream of accelerated He3. The resulting fusion reaction is neutron free, and used to propel the ship forward using the filtered normal hydrogen as ejecta. As He3 is relatively rare, it would be stored in tanks on board for use in the engine. Mining probes on the Jovian planets would distill the He3 from other gases and refuel ships for their travels.
The next major change in space travel came with Dr Eckerly. On April 12 2014, Dr. Eckerly activated his graviton transceiver. This device was intended to be used to communicate between stars, but the side effect it created was far more important than its original purpose.

A ship equipped with an Eckerly drive could have artificial gravity on board, saving the crew from advanced skeletal depletion on long journeys. The same ship could also give itself a virtual inertia of zero, bypassing the theories of relativity.

Unfortunately, activating the Eckerly drive with the intention to reduce the ship's inertia could have devastating effects: too close to a gravitational well, and the ship could collapse on itself, too close to a source of energetic photons (like a star) and the ship would collapse on itself. After turning several ships and crews into spheres of neutronium, the drive was considered too dangerous. Only the military remained interested and today the secrets of its successful use remain a guarded military secret.

My nation could produce about 50 a RL day, and it would cost about 100 million per plane, comon someone top that :D

Only me and Sambizie are allowed to produce the ISSCV and they won't be for sale until Sambizie says so. :)

I am now looking to buy a LOT of Uranium 238. You have my assurance it will NOT be used to make nuclear devices, those are so silly. I need quite a fair bit. Please post prices.

I'll share more info on what I have in mind later.

Adejaani, I have been mining 238 since I was at 20million..I'm at 400+ now. I'm sure I can send you what you need..lol

How much for the U-238?

Would 200,000 (don't worry about transport) for say, 50 tons? :D

How much for the U-238?

Would 200,000 (don't worry about transport) for say, 50 tons? :D

Sure...I really have no use for it anymore, well not ecactly :lol:
But I can give you 100 tons for 200,000 and an additional 50 tons (ore) that you can store and refine at a later date.

How much for the U-238?

Would 200,000 (don't worry about transport) for say, 50 tons? :D

Sure...I really have no use for it anymore, well not ecactly :lol:
But I can give you 100 tons for 200,000 and an additional 50 tons (ore) that you can store and refine at a later date.

Oh, I'm not refining it. I did have the brilliant idea of "cracking" the U-238, which of course, when it decays gives of..... Helium (which we'd need to power all our JFKs, Hammerheads and ISSCVs! I'm trying to get the tech to do this, I DID say it wasn't for bomb making.

All I'm left with is a big slag of lead after I've "milked" all the Helium out of it. :lol:

Oh, yeah, 200,000 wired, our usual "this happens automatically every day until something changes it" deal. :wink:

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

Well in any case it's all yours :P

OOC: Q about my rights in producing the Hammerhead: I can't sell it, but I can produce it for you to use or sell and I can produce some for myself so long as that comes secondary to your use of the systems. This is my understanding of matters...accordingly, I'm going to be building more factories soon.

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani


Quick hijack, then back to the isde lines reading this...Is that the Power Rangers chick? Whoever it is, shes a hottie.

OOC: Q about my rights in producing the Hammerhead: I can't sell it, but I can produce it for you to use or sell and I can produce some for myself so long as that comes secondary to your use of the systems. This is my understanding of matters...accordingly, I'm going to be building more factories soon.

Correct, but you can also sell what you make for yourself. Just not the producton rights though.

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani


Quick hijack, then back to the isde lines reading this...Is that the Power Rangers chick? Whoever it is, shes a hottie.

LOL Yeah, she's Amy Jo Johnson, who played the original Pink Ranger. She first caught my eye on "Felicity".

Though my sister said (of the full picture , keeping in mind "Pretty Woman" and referring to Julia Roberts) that she looked a bit like a tramp. :lol: I was originally going to go for Anne Archer (who is the PERFECT Cathy Ryan in two of the Tom Clancy movie makes) but couldn't find a decent picture.

Anyway, just to satisfy Imitora, the full version is at: http://home.iprimus.com.au/quincyw/morghan.jpg :P

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

***I think I know the rest of the picture...:wink:***

I should start posting my president's picture when I post.

The Republic of Imitora congratulates Western Asia on its commision, and wishes all countries involved good luck with this conquest. To Adejaani and Sambizie, we'll see you when you get here. Luck and all,

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President Amanda Muirne Ormsby, The Republic of Imitora

OOC: *Drools* Sophie Marceau! *Drools* :D

IC: Adejaani thanks Imitora for being a good friend, supporter and ally. Despite..... Differences in the past, it is hoped that the bonds between Adejaani and Imitora can grow ever closer in times to come.

OOC: *Gags* Where did that come from? LOL. Meant sentiment, even if it was too flowery. :P

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

OOC: Sophie will be mine....I wish :cry: , but dont worry, I got what you were saying.

OK, NOW BACK ON TOPIC :lol:

PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL PRODUCTS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS THREAD ARE NOW COPYRIGHTED BY THE SAMBIZIE AEROSPACE & DEFENCE DEPARTMENTS

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ooc: gonna move this to the first page...lol

To: Sambize

From Elara: We have assembled the finest Elarian engineers and scientists , would you mind if they began construction of the project?

To: Sambize

From Elara: We have assembled the finest Elarian engineers and scientists , would you mind if they began construction of the project?

Not at all friend, we would like a total of (3) Emperor Roland Class Battleships built if your new facility can handle it. If not, one at a time will be great, just let me know when each is finished. Until we are further trained in space, The Empire of Zoarg will take custody of the Battleships.
MU

To: Sambize

From Elara: We have assembled the finest Elarian engineers and scientists , would you mind if they began construction of the project?

Not at all friend, we would like a total of (3) Emperor Roland Class Battleships built if your new facility can handle it. If not, one at a time will be great, just let me know when each is finished. Until we are further trained in space, The Empire of Zoarg will take custody of the Battleships.
MU


You must be kidding correct? It can handle alot more than that , you dont really know the size of it until you see it in person. We'll be working on all three at the same time.

Obi: "Thats no moon ,....its a space station..."

Obi: "Thats no moon ,....its a space station..."

Haha, that's what I figured but wasn't sure :lol: Even better then.

Ok good news and bad news. All scientists and engineers were from Elara except for one who was from one of the colonies threatened to commit suicide shortly after seeing the plans for the Emperor Roland Class ships. He was taken away and is seeing a therapist at the Space Station , he will not be working on the ships now.


The other Scientists and Engineers who are all true Elarians were VERY excited about the project and got drunk off of Elarian Ale their first day on the project. Now the next day they are begining in 3 teams and are coordinating between each other to make sure each ship is the exact duplicate of the other. Things are going well and so far nothing has went wrong. The scientists and engineers are especially happy with all the great tools and equiptment they have at the station.

OK, NOW BACK ON TOPIC :lol:

PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL PRODUCTS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS THREAD ARE NOW COPYRIGHTED BY THE SAMBIZIE AEROSPACE & DEFENCE DEPARTMENTS

:arrow: ©Copyright

ooc: gonna move this to the first page...lol

But the previous stuff about me producing, keeping the plans a corporate secret etc are still going? :?

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani
Loyal member of the APTO
Tech level: Late Modern/Early Space
Bold, Resolute, Without Remorse

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

Ummm, yeah... could I have be named on your patent as a "licensed producer and limited-scale sales group"?

Ummm, yeah... could I have be named on your patent as a "licensed producer and limited-scale sales group"?

When Full Scale Production begins, you will be named and authorized to sell at your storfront :lol:

Adejaani since you got the the plans for the Sarratoga do you wish for any help in building the carriers? I can provide eney engineers and the use of two of my construction yards.

Rushe Lee High Lord of Western Might

Construction should be fine, I've got advanced shipyards being constructed. However, I, at present have no Air Wing for my carrier, so I intend to place a heavy amount of Cruiser type weaponry to make up for this deficit (until I can develop my own space fighters).

If you can provide advanced weapons tech, I am willing to exchange one Saratoga or equivalent monetary aid in exchange. :)

ooc: Sorry about the delay. Had suff on my mind.

IC: Weapon tech will be now problem. I can supply heavy Ion and standard Laser turrents, lither anti fighter/bomber weapons, plus Space torpedos and Hyper missles. Which can also be equipted to bombers, for a lick with a long reach.

Adejaani since you got the the plans for the Sarratoga do you wish for any help in building the carriers? I can provide eney engineers and the use of two of my construction yards.

Rushe Lee High Lord of Western Might

Construction should be fine, I've got advanced shipyards being constructed. However, I, at present have no Air Wing for my carrier, so I intend to place a heavy amount of Cruiser type weaponry to make up for this deficit (until I can develop my own space fighters).

If you can provide advanced weapons tech, I am willing to exchange one Saratoga or equivalent monetary aid in exchange. :)

ooc: Sorry about the delay. Had suff on my mind.

IC: Weapon tech will be now problem. I can supply heavy Ion and standard Laser turrents, lither anti fighter/bomber weapons, plus Space torpedos and Hyper missles. Which can also be equipted to bombers, for a lick with a long reach.

I can't make the things yet, but when I can, I'll get back to you.

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani
Loyal member of the APTO
Tech level: Late Modern/Early Space
Bold, Resolute, Without Remorse

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

SIDE VIEW:
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BOTTOM:
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With construction of the Roland Class Battleships complete, The Rupublic of Sambizie request the status reports of contract completion from the following:

Western Asia: Hammerhead production
Adejaani: JFK Class Production

Please provide the status of each contract you hold.

M. Uganda

OOC: I prepared a report at 3 this last morning (LA time, or about 6am NS official RL time) but almost fell asleep while working on it. I meant to finish it but I've been out most of the day...I'm working on it and I'll be posting both for yesterday (ok, so the day before yesterday) and today (well, yesterday) very soon. Production will be in the thousands over a few RL days...should cover most needs quickly.

Note: I'm not going to build in the laser weapons, any anti-weapons shielding, or the scramjet (hypersonic) engine...but the ship will otherwise (I believe) be in full working condition to specs. I'm going to use fuel cells for the power but the system will be prepared to accept more futuretech power components. I can/will take care of the control systems, pilot equipment, training equipment, and all that.

EDIT: didn't happen. Full production starts later today though...get your part of the manufacturing process ready.

Thank you for the update WA. We have been working on engines and weapons systems. We have enough to meet the first order. Would like the componets sen't to you? Or, we can install them in Sambizie. Whatever will be easiest. Take care and we'll keep in touch.
M.Uganda

OOC: If you could send them to our factories then we could do proper and full tests on each produced vehicle. We can cover the railgun in the turret but the lasers an space weapons need to be of your own. BTW, I'm going to include one of those missile turrets to house your space torpedos if they're short enough. Also, I'm going to have the fighters use droppable fuel tanks so that they can take off from the surface of a planet and arrive in space without too much issue.

I was going to use hydrogen fuel cells with the ability to break down long-chain molecules such as petrochemicals for onboard power and all that, but your nuclear-tech power can also be installed (if you provide it).

To my good friends, the Republic of Sambizie.

Although we have a sizable population of 289 million persons, we did not create our own space industry as such..... We contracted the building of surface to space transports, spaceports and aerospace manufacturing facilities, those are nearly complete.

However, the contractor to build the shipyards has been been heard of for a little while. Nevertheless, regardless, fabrication of large scale items (eg fusion reactors, bulkheads, communications and computer assemblies etc) are being assembled planetside, waiting to be shipped into orbit.

"Cutting the metal" and laying down the keel of the first two JFK carriers will proceed literally after a small ceremony will take place to inaugurate the shipyards, which in turn takes place literally after the shipyard is constructed.

The Republic of Adejaani stands by its originally stated number of 10 days (RL) from keel laying to full completion of TWO units.

It is the proposal of Adejaani to retain both vessels of these after their construction, spend two (RL) days testing, shakedown and debugging before additional vessels are constructed to see whether or not the production process, or even "real world experience" can improve the design or not.

I will try and chase up my two contractors, you will be the first to hear news of production when it begins.

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President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani
Loyal member of the APTO
Tech level: Late Modern/Early Space
Military alert status at time of writing: "DELTA TWO"
Bold, Resolute, Without Remorse

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

OOC: The following was meant to be posted last night at the listed Los Angeles time, but I decided that I was at risk of passing out onto my computer so it’s been delayed a good bit. Updates will follow. This is the post for the 5th.

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Industry News Report:"Hammerhead Group" Joint Manufacturers’ Commission reports: Successful Hammerhead Baseline Prototype Testing, Simulation Construction.<<<<

8/6/2003 0250 LST (RLT)
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SUCCESSFUL TESTING OF BASELINE HAMMERHEAD PROTOTYPE
Stock prices for involved companies rises significantly on the expectation that the purchase of as many as several thousand of these units will provide for a continued trend of prosperity in Western Asia’s military manufacturing market.

The Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC) announced that the baseline prototype of the SA-43 had been completed (the next 4 are expected to be delivered, on time, within 3 months).

<Pic Series 1: The Prototype is taxied out of a hangar and sits on the runway before the initiation of basic flight tests>
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The plane’s performance characteristics are either at or very near the projected characteristics. While the fighter was not equipped with its final engine, it was equipped with a modified version based on the engine provided on the FSW Switchblade stealth supersonic fighter/bomber, which has a top proven speed of about 3.25 Mach

For avionics and atmospheric testing purposes, the laser and rail weapons were all replaced by basic aircraft guns of roughly equivalent size and form. The AI-guided turret guns proved capable of acquiring a lock on and engaging drone targets from a variety of profiles and under various conditions. The system was able to engage successfully 93% of all drones within range and within the expected (theoretical) attack capacity of the provided weaponry. The percentage was much lower in an initial test run but it was discovered shortly that the IR/visual/UV detecting/targeting optics had not been bolted in after recent maintenance, causing the targeting to be only minimally functional. The total percentage includes that one low-yield test, without it the percentage engagement is 95% under the controlled testing conditions and is estimated to be at least in the top 20th percentile for combat performance.

The factories to build these ships number at 7 construction centers, each able to roll out 20-30 Hammerheads per month (1RL day). 2 of the construction centers will be opened soon, followed a month later by 3 more and 2 months later by the last 2 factory centers. The first 20 ships are set to be built within a few months (10/facility for first run).

Some basic stats have been released (note, actual values may be different due to secrecy concerns):
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BASIC INFO
Make/Model (Designation): Sambizie/Hammerhead Commission SA-43 "Hammerhead" Endo Exo Fighter
Manufacturers: Hammerhead Commission (Western Asian arms producers), Sambizian arms companies.
Production Capacity (at full tilt): 30 units/day per factory (7 major assembly plants in WA, 13 subsystem production plants in WA, many subsystem plants in Sambizie. Total production/month with this arrangement is 210 fighters/month).

Primary Designations:
- Endo-Exo Trans-atmospheric Attack Jet.
- Primary fighter of the Sambizie Marine Corps.
- Primary IDF Space Forces/GINASA armed fighter craft.
Primary Functions:
Sambizian: Deployment in combat missions (Combat Space Patrol), interception, Close Air Support (CAS) and Colonial Defense, but can also be adapted for SAR (Search and Rescue).
Western Asian: Combat Space Patrol, Transatmospheric Ground-Attack/Support, Transatmospheric Combat Interception, Exploratory Fleet Guard Vessels (eventual).


PERFORMANCE
Engines:
--Main Engines—
PROTOTYPE: Type secret, used in jet with Mach 3.2+ capabilities. Dual-use: atmospheric (Conventional, "supercruise-capable"/Ramjet) and space (rocket propulsion)
TARGET: He3 fuelled SCRAMjet (Supersonic Combustion RAMjet). SCRAMjet - enabling the SA-43 to fly from inside an atmosperic envelope to a transorbital phase right into ACM (Air Combat Maneuvering), in the (almost complete) vacuum of space.

--Ballistic Control/Extra-Atmospheric Maneuvering Jets—
Placed at various locations (and in various directions), controlled by computer and so used to modify the orientation of the craft while outside of any atmosphere.

Top Speed (atmospheric): "Over 2.4 Mach" (OOC: Mach 3.0+)
Cruising Speed (atmospheric): "About 1.8 Mach" (OOC: 2.4 Mach)
Systems energy profile: Major control systems energy derived from hydrogen fuel cells with petrochemical-catalytic abilities.

Minor power reserves (battery) derived from specialized dyes which, when painted onto conductive metal surfaces, act as a photovoltaic power source.

Mission Profile:
Specific SA-43 tasks include:
- Intercept and destroy enemy craft in conjunction with ground or airborne fighter control under all-endo/exo conditions.
- Conduct day and night close air support.
- Conduct day and night deep air support. Deep air support consists of LIDAR search and attack, interdiction, and strikes against enemy installations using all types of weapons compatible with assigned craft.
- Conduct armed escort of friendly craft.
- Be able to operate from spacecraft carriers, advanced bases, and expeditionary airfields.
- Be able to deploy or conduct extended range operations employing aerial refueling.



CONTROL
Manuevering:
--Atmospheric—
Completed "conventionally" with the use of moving flaps and semi-directional engines.
--Non-Atmospheric—
Completed by use of maneuvering jets, computer aided movement (manual override possible). Use of a pair of diagonally-mounted "joysticks" that are extended to the pilot on motile ‘arms’ once the pilot has locked into his seat and once the craft has been given the proper activation code (note: for theft and operational security, each craft is provided with Use Authorization Codes (UACs) that can be shifted to protect the craft from use by spies and/or enemy agents.

Crew: 1 pilot (+AI target identification, acquisition, and engagement program. AI ship control system).

WEAPONS/ARMAMENT
Gun- and Directed Energy (DE)-Based
1 x frontal, sub-nose gimbal-mounted electro-magnetic railgun (capable of covering a 50° kill-zone)
1 x dual-barrel aft-mounted railgun, mounted in AI-guided semiautonomous turret.
2 x double-barreled nose laser mounts. One of each pair fires Anti-Shield "lasers" (for shield break-down) and other of pair fires "Plasma Lasers" (for hard targets).

Missiles, Rockets, Torpedoes
Weapons Capacity
- 2, Wing Pylons (1 per wing), Triple Mount. (Total of 6 hardpoints, capable of bearing missiles, bombs, rocket packs, fuel/supply pods, or EW/ECM pods.
- 1 In-body XWM-111 (Rotary, Multi-use weapons mount), 6-9 weapons per mount, dependant upon payload type. Fully compliant with weapons specs provided by Sambizian engineers. Limited to small-size rockets and space torpedoes. (NOTE: May only be included in bomber version.
- (alternate option) 2, In-body bays (Capacity: 3 missiles/rockets per bay or 1 Torpedo per bay).

DIMENSIONS
Length : 11.5m
Height : 1.7m
[/u]Wingspan[/u] : 12.5m

Price Per Unit: $35-55million cost (est.), Recent Evaluations: $45-75m retail price (est).

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eTraining and Pilot Education Sub-Commission Complete Design for Peaceful and Combat Mission Simulation Machine

The eTaPE Sub-Commission has reported that an advanced draft of the pilot training program has been collected and that the virtual reality simulator meant to train Hammerhead pilots in the intricacies of the atmospheric, transatmospheric, and extra-atmospheric piloting and control of the SA-43 Endo/Exo "Hammerhead" Fighter.

This task group, mostly under El Op and Rafael direction, has been working on a "universal trainer system" that could be used to educate the pilots of nations that have acquired SA-43 systems, who have "probably never experienced space and its related issues and who have definitely never experienced the special abilities of the Hammerhead."

The following images are reported to be pictures taken within the flight simulating module, both with the system on standby position for use: http://www.uberfx.com/Articles/VTU/FIGURE1.gif

And during training simulations: http://www.uberfx.com/Articles/VTU/Figure4.gif

One of Western Asia’s test pilots described his experience of the simulation as "about as scary and real as you can get…I was convinced that I would die when the ship was ‘hit’ by some bit of junk or another."

The trainer system is expected to be sold through the Sambizian military manufacturing companies that provided the initial design to Western Asia.

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Emergency Escape and Rescue Profile, System Capabilities

The Hammerhead’s cockpit is equipped with limited-capability directional thrusters and maneuvering jets, as well as an emergency fuel cell and battery system. In the case of a serious damage to a Hammerhead in space, the pilot will be able to eject and, hopefully, to return to the mothership. The pod lacks independent reentry capabilities.

In atmospheric conditions, the pilot will be able to either eject within the pod (which will have inflatable devices should the ejection occur over sea. The inflating pads will also assist in ‘lightenting’ the impact of the craft. The Pod has a heavy-load parachute but the pilot may, if he wishes, leave the pod and use a personal parachute system (in case of more serious system malfunction). This option will be carried out in the standard manner used by more conventional aircraft.

Conceptual Drawing of Pod (unclassified):
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The Pilot’s suit is a semi-pressurized system with built-in emergency life-support systems. The suit is based on the Western Asian Scorpion Advanced Personal Combat System (APCS) (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=593714#593714). The Suit is not capable of providing for protection against prolonged EVA (ExtraVehiclular Activities) in space and it is HIGHLY suggested that the pilots remain within the cockpit/pod unless it is absolutely necessary that they evacuate. The System comes with health-monitors and limited first aid treatments.

The helmet functions both as a pressurized and air-providing system as well as providing HUD (Heads Up Display) capabilities while both in the Hammerhead (is connected to the cockpit by "plug-and-play" chord) and on-planet (in the Scorpion’s standard/default capacities). The helmet provides comlink microphone and through-bone audio transmission for both in-flight and on-ground uses.

OOC:Scramjet is an acronym for Supersonic Combustion Ramjet. The scramjet differs from the ramjet in that combustion takes place at supersonic air velocities through the engine. It is mechanically simple, but vastly more complex aerodynamically than a jet engine.

Western Asia: The Sambizie Areospace Division has completed the final testing and development of the SCRAMjet. Test resulted in the decesion being made to use Hydrogen (HE3) as the best type of "injector-fuel" for the SCRAMjet. Due to the combustion needed during supersonic airflow, Hydrogen is the needed source.

The scramjet grabs most of its fuel from the air it rushes through. Mechanically simple - it has no moving parts - it has proved very tricky to develop, chiefly because it only starts to work at speeds above Mach 5.

CONSEPTUAL TEST RESULTS:

The test was of a 10-centimetre- (four-inch) diameter, 20% model of a conceptual missile fired from a gun. The projectile experienced a peak acceleration of approximately 10,000 Gs, and emerged from the gun at Mach 7. After the titanium projectile was launched, it used its scramjet to cover a distance of 80 metres (260 feet) in slightly over 30 milliseconds.
Scramjet engines provide propulsion at speeds above Mach 5 by capturing atmospheric air to mix with on-board fuel. These air-breathing engines are therefore more efficient than conventional rocket motors because they do not need to carry an oxidant with them.

We have proven these test to be succesful and have started the manufacturing of the SCRAMjet. Due to the fuel used, Hydrogen (HE3), the engine has been named: He3-SCRAMjet.

We now present you with the He3-SCRAMjet:
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To aid in the smooth development of the engines, the Republic of Adejaani is donating 4000 litres of "slush" Helium-3 (He is Helium, H is Hydrogen, Sambizie :wink:) to both Sambizie and Western Asia.

Additional amounts of He3 will be produced for all "friendly" nations for use once the final designs are completed and units operational.

OOC: Makes woosh sound and runs hand over head.

IC: Makes Woosh sound and runs hand over head...And I though my TN turbines were hard to fighure out.

The Republic of Adejaani would like to purchase miniaturised versions of the scramjet for missile/torpedo propulsion..... :) If so, the specifications for scramjet powered space missiles and torpedoes will be made available to Sambizie and Western Asia.

OOC: Samb, I know about scramjets, and much more than just that test (which was pretty damn cool on its own)...I just haven't ICly developed them yet.


IC: Western Asia is pleased to see the developments by its customer and Scramjet/ramjet engine designs are being built and tested based on the Sambizian research. Accordingly, the old design (of which some 40 craft have been produced in the first month and a quarter of production) has been retired for now (it may be re-introduced for nations that require only very limited space maneuverability close to an atmospheric envelope at a reduced price) and the new designs should be in production by next month (OOC: tomorrow).

OOC: I'm not sure about using the scramjets in-atmosphere as the design isn't really 'right' for hypersonic flight in the atmosphere....but that's something else.

IC:
We appreciate the Helium-3 isotope donated by Adejaani but we have the capability to produce this material already and we will shortly begin to do so for personal use. We are very interested in the Adejaani offer to develop space missiles based on that design, but we must defer to the creator and our client.

OOCly: I'm going to post my old posts even though they're behind. I'll just state what day they were meant for.

Adejaaini: Your offere has been accepted and we have several HeScramjets available for you to research and "miniturize" for missile production.

WA & Ade.: Please note that is will take a substantial amount of spped before the SCRAMjet can "fire". We can still use WA engines as the SCRAMjet would be more of like a "booster" in atmospheric conditions, it it used to "push the fighter out of the atmosphers without having to worry about conventional burn-out, and a "primary" in a space enviroment. (OOC if this makes sence?)

WA & Ade.: Please note that is will take a substantial amount of spped before the SCRAMjet can "fire". We can still use WA engines as the SCRAMjet would be more of like a "booster" in atmospheric conditions, it it used to "push the fighter out of the atmosphers without having to worry about conventional burn-out, and a "primary" in a space enviroment. (OOC if this makes sence?)

OOC: I'm personally a bit dubious about the idea that SCRAMjets could be used in space but they’re mostly (IRL) meant for hypersonic (Mach 5/6/7+) atmospheric propulsion (as other methods won’t work then)....and as it is, most current fighter jets could theoretically reach space (but there is not much use and it would burn the fuel up and the aircraft are not built for maneuvering in space, so the point is moot. The SCRAMjet will take a lot of speed to use in atmosphere…and as it is, I don’t see why conventional or modified, conventionally-based rocket engines shouldn’t function well for the purposes. As it is, I’ll be using my original engine design (conventional jet/Ramjet modified to enable function as a rocket) for my own Hammerheads. A VASMIR engine design might be preferred for larger craft (link (http://sfwrg.org/p005.html) or even for this craft).

This issue is why I suggested that, if aircraft are taking off from the surface for missions of significant length outside of the atmosphere, that they be equipped with fuel tanks or even rocket boosters to assist in the process.

As it is, I'm going to buy Skeptism's rail launching system (link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58076&highlight=)) to give them a boost (launching in small batches) also.


I'm accepting the SCRAMjet as such but I'm going to limit the top speed at what I posted above. TM me and we'll figure out what we can all do.

Not a problem WA. Let's just use the engines you have. The SCAMjet can be put on hold or installed at a later date as an upgrade. I would however like a total of 10 built with SCRAMjets. The others can be manufactured with your engine specs.

I am enclosing a $45 billion relief package. This is to offset some costs on your behalf. Do with it as you wish, it doesn't have to go towards this project. For the first order, we are going to require, a total of 150 Hammerheads. 60 are going to be placed on 3 of the "Roland Class" Destroyers. An additional 80 will be placed aboard 2 of our "J.F.K. Class" Sarratoga's when completed. 10 will remain at Mwatsbana AFB.

I would also request that an additional 150 be back ordered now.

Thanks for all the assistance.

Respectfully,
M. Uganda

Not a problem WA. Let's just use the engines you have. The SCAMjet can be put on hold or installed at a later date as an upgrade. I would however like a total of 10 built with SCRAMjets. The others can be manufactured with your engine specs.

I am enclosing a $45 billion relief package. This is to offset some costs on your behalf. Do with it as you wish, it doesn't have to go towards this project. For the first order, we are going to require, a total of 150 Hammerheads. 60 are going to be placed on 3 of the "Roland Class" Destroyers. An additional 80 will be placed aboard 2 of our "J.F.K. Class" Sarratoga's when completed. 10 will remain at Mwatsbana AFB.

I would also request that an additional 150 be back ordered now.

Thanks for all the assistance.

Respectfully,
M. Uganda

The $45bn package will not be needed in full. We will take $14bn of that and most of those funds will be devoted towards the further development of the SCRAMjet engines or improvements related to the Hammerheads such as VASMIR engines for use in space. Some $4bn more will be devoted to the development of the bomber modification of the Hammerhead, which will be able to bear two XM-111 Rotary, Multi-use weapons mount over the one borne by the fighter version, and an Electronic Warfare version as well.

We might suggest that the rest of the funds be allocated to the development of space-based projectiles such as rockets, torpedoes, and even scramjet missiles. We are very interested in each of these and would be interested in obtaining production rights for these weapons at a very favorable rate.

We've also delayed plans on the additional factories that are not needed as of yet. The last two factories, if needed, will be used for the production of the bomber version of the Hammerhead, perhaps the SB-43 Mako in light of the naming of this line of craft after sharks? It is expected that prototypes for that version may be ready within a month or so and initial production-level testing could begin in a couple of months(2 RL days).

These are expected to be a bit heavier and larger than the SA-43 (and may have 2 crewmembers: a pilot/gunner and a navigator/bombadier) but it is also expected that their storage profile will not be too significantly larger than the standard Hammerhead although the weapons payload might be double that of the SA-43 (OOC: if you wanted the SA-43s to be the bombers too then I'll get rid of this).

Another option under consideration is the development of a "SEA-43" equipped with a similar EW/ECM package as was placed on our F/A-18G/EA-18 "Growler" craft. As we are planning on using this aircraft both in near-earth and close-support roles, we believe that this will not be a great challenge to complete. Such a package would retain the wing-mounted weaponry but the internal bays would be devoted (reverseably) to the EW/ECM package and some other modifications would be necessary. However, as we've already had experience placing these packages both into the F/A-18 and the F-16XL (Ell's FSW version of the F-16 ), it should not take more than 2 months to fit and fully test the system and then production could begin with units on-hand (the EW/ECM packages are the same as in other craft so production of those units would only need to be diverted to this use. Unfortunately, the system would require 2 crewmembers (a pilot/gunner and an EW/ECM officer) so its production will have to await the SB-43 prototype for testing.

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The Order:

With 20 of 30 possible aircraft being produced from 5 of 7 possible factories, your entire order should take a bit over 3 months to build the required 300 craft (the first 150 should be done by 2 months from now).

The SCRAMjet-equipped Hammerheads should be available in a short time as we've already produced that number.

The delivery of the systems, if time is not greatly critical, could be delayed to a few months from now (3 RL days) when we've completed the construction of our rocket-assisted launch ramp. Otherwise, the vehicles will be delivered to orbit, where they will have to be refueled aboard your carrier ships and the reserved aircraft might be used.


Price per unit (raw price):
-- Standard Conventional/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $50m
-- Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine: $64m

Price per unit (suggested retail price for the units sold to other nations):
-- Standard Conventional/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $55+ million
-- Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine: $70+ million

We will leave the sale of these units to other nations in your control (OOC: I don't have much interest in dealing with that) but we may offer some to our allies, but any profits will be run through your distributor companies.

Full production has begun now and some 150 total aircraft are expected by about the end of the month (the extra 10 produced per factory will be taken for our own use in light of outside circumstances).

Excellent, In light of your telegram, we would like to explore the EM weapons as suggested by you. As we are in no GREAT rush, we have expected the production time to take longer. This will not be a problem as we are intending on our nations to be producing one of the finest atmospheric fighters available. The more research done and given the amount of time, we rather delay production now rather than a recall or upgrade later.

In addition, The Sambizie have been outfitting 2 factories to produce the Hammerhead. Once these factories are operational, we intend on shifting gears towards the Bomber version. The bomber version will infact have to pilots and close to 2x the weaponary of the Hammerhead. We will stick with the "theme" and name the lines after types of sharks. We would be honored if you named the plane.

Keep me posted. All seems to be moving along as expected. Please keep the grant we offered your nation in it's entirety. It is our way of saying thank you for a job well done. If there is anything that you require of us fell free to ask anytime.

Respectfully,
M. Uganda

i sent wa some pics for the fighter

i sent wa some pics for the fighter

OOC: Were those your pics. a page back or so? Or are these new ones you sent?

none of the ones io sent are on this thread, but here is the url
http://www.space-readyroom.de/hammer.html

none of the ones io sent are on this thread, but here is the url
http://www.space-readyroom.de/hammer.html

Oh, ok...I've been to that site..lol

can i use the scram jet pic as a tank shell

can i use the scram jet pic as a tank shell

OOC: Well I would prefer that you didn't, as to keep the confusion down. It is being released as a SCRAMjet and if someone sees it at a Tank Shell it may raise a bunch of questions. However, There are some prototype missiles that use SCRAMjet Tech. If you identify the SCRAMjet as a propellant and not a shell it should be ok. You could post the pic. and "say" that this is what powers the missile or shell.

The use of a SCRAMjet for a tank shell would be highly unlikely due to the speed needed. But as I stated, there are missiles in the works for SCRAMjet tech.

i sent wa some pics for the fighter
OOC:
Yes :D ,

Again, thanks for those! I was going to use them to show the tests but I sorta missed my opportunity. :(

Also, if you need any of these at a 'special offering' price just tell me.

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ICishly:

Sambizie,
I am pleased to hear of your support for these ideas. We will be transfering the small-scale EMP warhead technology to your research groups and the program files for the Hammerhead are being sent on a secure line to your factories (note the missile-borne version has a range of up to 400m in atmospheric conditions (a larger missile could get out to 700m but that is not gonna fit on the Hammerhead).

As it is, there is no name for the EW/ECM craft in development. I was thinking of the "Howler" (the Super Hornet version I produce is the "Growler" and the older "Prowler" is well-known), but I'd appreciate a better name if anyone has one.

Thank you for the grant, it is greatly appreciated, what is left after distribution among the companies will go towards the development projects mentioned.

Production continues well and, barring any hold-ups, everything should progress according to plans.

OOC: I trust that you'll keep track of your own delivery schedules and all that? A note: the EW/ECM systems and EMP blasts have a much greater effect in space since the atmosphere is not there to interfere with the propagation of the Electromagnetic energy waves. Expect an effective range of up to 2.5 times (random guesstimate) the in-atmosphere range.

OOC: Ugh, I'm not keeping up well with this, too busy. I'll try and get everything back up to par in the next few days. :? I'm also trying to chase up my shipyards, too, so I haven't even begun construction yet, either. :? It's partly to make it a bit more realistic, too, the difficulties, the pressure, the flaws, but they'll be solved.

IC: The Republic of Adejaani thanks Sambizie for Scramjet prototypes in missiles. Due to concerns by Western Asia, a new system of "encapsulation" of the missile using "conventional" rocket systems to boost it to speed, with Scramjets performing "final" speed dashes to the target.

Also, tests of the JFK carriers' primary weapons systems are proving to be a nightmare. At this point in time, the only feasible weaponry will be missile based systems until the various problems with the lasers, particle cannons and mass drivers can be solved.

However, pending successful tests (or technical aid), the refit of all completed vessels with a full and proper weapons system will be conducted for free by users of the JFK.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/quincyw/adejaani/president_harrington.jpg
President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani
Loyal member of the APTO
Tech level: Late Modern/Early Space
Military alert status at time of writing: "ECHO THREE"
Bold, Resolute, Without Remorse

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

Adejaani,
WA can provide you with the plans used for our gauss guns (not used in any products) and for our railguns (used in miniature in the Hammerhead).

As a temporary fix, you might be interested in using technology from our MTHEL system ( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=353133#353133 ). While it only has an atmospheric range of 5-8km, without atmospheric interference it should be able to reach many times that distance. Now, this would probably be a near-vessel point defense system but that's what we have available.

We'll transfer our data and designs for this. They might not all be ready or proper for larger systems, but it should help accelerate the process.

NOTE: the MTHEL tech will only be available for this project and is not to be used to create MTHEL systems elsewhere without permission. Thanks

Adejaani,
WA can provide you with the plans used for our gauss guns (not used in any products) and for our railguns (used in miniature in the Hammerhead).

As a temporary fix, you might be interested in using technology from our MTHEL system ( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=353133#353133 ). While it only has an atmospheric range of 5-8km, without atmospheric interference it should be able to reach many times that distance. Now, this would probably be a near-vessel point defense system but that's what we have available.

We'll transfer our data and designs for this. They might not all be ready or proper for larger systems, but it should help accelerate the process.

NOTE: the MTHEL tech will only be available for this project and is not to be used to create MTHEL systems elsewhere without permission. Thanks

OOC: Actually, based on my (projected) Scramjet anti ship missile, the range is in excess of 20,000 kilometres. Unguided, of course..... I don't know, I'll go and have a think about it, thanks, if I use the tech, I'll make sure I warn you about it first.

And also, I'm making some of the missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads, but I won't manufacture them myself. It's a political decision to make them, not military. :wink:

IC: Thank you for your generous offer of this Gauss Cannon technology. Full scale testing and adaptation for the JFK will begin very soon. Thank you very much.



OOC: Actually, Sambizie, could you please tell me who's going to be getting JFKs? I know you want two, I'm going to get four (including the two prototypes for testing). Is Western Asia getting any? How about other customers?

{Public diplomatic transmission}
x Armscor-Territorial
o Adejaani, Concerned Parties

For your information, at the request of the Adejaani government.

Some time ago, Armscor-Territorial entered an agreement with the government of Adejaani to provide that body with an orbital launch capability. The first Adejaani spaceport facilities are coming on line and deliveries of launch vehicles are beginning.

Launch vehicles are:

Clydesdale 2 single stage to orbit craft. 500 tons payload. Catapult or vertical (350 ton payload only) launching versions, vertical landing with a maximum of 50 tons orbit-to-ground payload. 48 hours turnaround. Hydrogen/oxygen plugnozzle engine with solid-state fission preheating stage.

Lambda 2 transatmospheric vehicle. 100 passengers or 40 tons payload. Catapult launch (can takeoff from runway for ferrying purposes), runway landing. Hydrogen/oxygen rocket/scramjet engine.

Palfrey 2 single stage to orbit craft. 100 tons payload. Vertical takeoff, vertical landing. 72 hours turnaround. Hydrogen/oxygen plugnozzle engine with solid-state fission preheating stage. Secondary fission powered rocket for orbital maneuvering, allowing lunar transfer. Lunar soft landing possible if refueled or carrying less than 70 tons payload at launch.

Lambda 3 transatmospheric vehicle. 16 passengers or 8 tons payload. Catapult takeoff or runway takeoff with midair refueling prior to orbital injection run, runway landing. Hydrogen/oxygen rocket/scramjet engine. Secondary fission powered rocket for orbital maneuvering, allowing lunar transfer.

We are also providing parts and services for launch infrastructure, though the vast majority of construction is being performed by local providers.

Launch vehicles will be available once assembly lines become free in 8 months time. For large programs, assembly lines can be established in 3 mothths time.

[OOC: Piccies coming - but you can picture the SSTOs as Hyperion launchers and TAVs as oversize Sänger bombers.

This assumes 1 NS month per 1 RL day timescale.

Adejaani: Don't recall the precise numbers but tell me somewhere and I'll edit.]

OOC: Saucken, I looked through my IRC logs: 30 100 person TAVs; 300 heavy cargo SSTOs; 30 passenger TAVs; 20 small cargo SSTOs.

Oh and thanks, Saucken! :D

IC:

{Unsecure communications burst}

Thank you, The Territory. The first vehicles are arriving and spaceport construction is continuing at a smooth rate.

The agreed payment of 700 BILLION, 350 billion is being wired now, the rest will be wired upon final deliveries.

Citizens all over Adejaani are in celebration tonight. For the stars are reached and there is now no end to the adventure and only good things may come.

OY TO THE WORLD! The Empire of Burninatonia is pleased to announce the construction of the first of a series of three shipyards for Adejaani, built precisely to their specifications. Number two is well underway and will be ready soon, at which point I'll just get those damned Construction Hordes right on number three!

Let the good times roll! Let the money come!

http://invisionfree.com:54/85/115/upload/p1078.jpg
Grendelynne Magg
Lunar Mystic of the Burninatonian Hordes

IC: "At last!" exclaims President Harrington of the Republic of Adejaani as she presses a button on the intercom and everyone starts racing about. "I now declare the Adejaani Republic orbital shipyards complete! Now, engineers, hurry up and get building!"

http://www.st-armada.com/images/Fed%20Specials/Fed%20Sketches/shipyard.jpg
(A single shipyard)

The shipyards are designed to house ships 1000 meters long, 500 meters wide and 700 meters tall. The permanent workforce of a thousand live in comfortable (if cramped) quarters.

The shipyards are also a resupply point for ships (though it is NOT a rest and recreation station, it's a purely functional station).

Burninatonia: Your promised payment of 100 BILLION is being wired. Thank you for your help.

Construction of the first two ships begins immediately.

<Encrypted Transmission>
TO: Adejaani
FROM: Sambizie Aerospace Division

To Adejaani: Here are the completed JFK Class Blueprints including weapon specifications, deck layout, and Engine System Layout. These Specifications are highly classified and MUST be completed within specifications. If you are unable to provide "certain" technology, please contact me and we will assist your engineers with the building of such.

NOTE:These specifications are the sole property of the Sambizie Aerospace Division. Any attempt to produce without expressed written concent of Sambizie will constitute an act of agression. These specifications WILL remain in the hands of the Adejaani Government until otherwise notified by The Republic of Sambizie.
The John F. Kennedy Class is the most modern carrier in the fleet. Her crew compliment is: 3228 Ship's Company, 1008 Navy Air Wing, 1344 Marine Expeditionary Unit and 565 Army Infantry.

The ships in this class include: Her air-wing consists of: 168 SA-43 Hammerhead Attack Craft

14 AT-72 Stingray Recon Craft (CLASSIFIED)

4 B-290 Barracuda Fighter/Bombers (CLASSIFIED)

4 SWAC Spacebourne Warning and Control Craft (CLASSIFIED)

16 ISSAPC Inter-Solar-System Armoured Personnel Carriers

8 SSRT Sub Orbital Short-Range Tranport Craft

8 LC-19 Landing Craft

This carrier grosses 646,269 Tons when light, and 890,755 Tons under a full load. They are 525.6m long, 245.1m in the beam, 185m tall (comprised of 74.4m draft, 67.7m of superstructure and 40.2m of LIDAR dome).

Her original armament is to include 13 LASER Cannon batteries, but the Sambizie Aerospace Division has yet to prove such a weapon to be reliable. Hard points exits for a 1.2 GW, 2 x 450 MW, 6 x 300 MW and 4 x 50 MW LASER Cannons. They are fitted at this time with 30 Phalanx II Missile Launchers and 72 KEW/Torpedo Launchers.

Saratoga Blueprints:

1. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara1.jpg
2. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara2.jpg
3. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara3.jpg
4. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara4.jpg
5. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara5.jpg
6. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/3462/dsara6.jpg

President M. Uganda

OOC: as for quanity, we would like 3 Carriers.

To our good friends the Republic of Sambizie. We thank you for the plans and ACKNOWLEDGE our sole possession of the rights to the plans for the JFK as well as your order of 3 vessels.

As noted, the construction of the ships began today (RL). The first two ships are expected to be general platforms, if not experimental ones. As such, the Republic of Adejaani wishes to note that:

Despite the specifications, each nation can ask their particular JFKs to be refit according to their philosophies and whatever specifications.

For example, because Adejaani has no Army and a few things changed around a little, the Navy "owns and runs" the ship, the Air Wing is composed entirely of Air Force Personnel while the Marine unit has been downgraded to three Companies plus HQ (about 350 personnel total).

Another example of customisation is the fact that there is a greater emphasis on long range missile technologies, using the benefits of the Scramjet design and much modified "anti aircraft" defense.

As such, any nations (Sambizie included), unless otherwise stated in the blueprints or from an Adejaani technical standpoint (ie the inability to build it), your JFK ships will be built to "baseline" blueprint standards.

A full list of weapons and weapons package "options" will be explained at some later date.

-President Morghan J. Harrington

ALL OOC:


OOC: Actually, based on my (projected) Scramjet anti ship missile, the range is in excess of 20,000 kilometres.

Ummm I was talking about the range for my MTHEL systems...unless you're talking to someone else...

Unguided, of course..... I don't know, I'll go and have a think about it, thanks, if I use the tech, I'll make sure I warn you about it first.

That's all I ask for.


IC: Thank you for your generous offer of this Gauss Cannon technology. Full scale testing and adaptation for the JFK will begin very soon. Thank you very much.

OOC: Actually, Sambizie, could you please tell me who's going to be getting JFKs? I know you want two, I'm going to get four (including the two prototypes for testing). Is Western Asia getting any? How about other customers?

I'm not getting any JFKs (for now, at least...though I'll contact you if I need any)...but that brings up a good point:

Sambizie, you're going to organize all of this info into a sales thread, right?

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IC: We are glad to assist our partners in this grand effort.

EDIT: Updated design and specifications for this missile now at end of thread.

Theres a german TV show about USMARINES in space?....sigh
I bet they even speak german how sad... lol is that the pink power ranger? ROFL

Space: Above And Beyond wasn't German, I don't think, but it seemed the majority of S:AAB fans are German. And yes, the picture of President Harrington is Amy Jo Johnson, who was the first Pink Power Ranger. :roll:

To answer WA: OOC: Yes I will oginize a sales thread when all is complete. The Thread will only be for the Hammerheads. I'm not quit sure how the JFK's will sell...most people use their own carriers. Still thinking about it though as the JFK's ARE the "offical" Carrier of the Hammerhead..lol

OOC: But the really good thing about the JFK type, as I've preached on IRC and sometimes here, is that the JFK's upper hull sports cruiser type armaments too, so it's a "Battle Carrier", not an "Aircraft Carrier".

The distinction is the fact that Battle Carriers can, to an extent go "toe to toe" with enemy cruisers. And you've seen my posting that the Adejaani variant of the JFK will be more heavily biased towards missile technology (which is easier to upgrade than rebuilding the entire ship).....

OOC: But the really good thing about the JFK type, as I've preached on IRC and sometimes here, is that the JFK's upper hull sports cruiser type armaments too, so it's a "Battle Carrier", not an "Aircraft Carrier".

The distinction is the fact that Battle Carriers can, to an extent go "toe to toe" with enemy cruisers. And you've seen my posting that the Adejaani variant of the JFK will be more heavily biased towards missile technology (which is easier to upgrade than rebuilding the entire ship).....

That's true, It is more of a Battle Carrier than an AAC. I don't mind if you add more weaponary, I just request that the weaponary that was included in the specs. be provided as well.

TO ALL CONTRACTORS: Please provide detailed, Finalized Specifications for the contracts you hold. TG these specs. to me so I can put a sales thread together. Also provide the "official" contractor's co. name or industry as to be identified on the sales thread. For example: Sambizie Areospace Division along with, [official title of your company], are .....

Again, The Sambizie are proud that we could find such great manufactures that meet the needs of Sambizie Q&A. There are many more projects on the books for existing contractors as well as new oppertunities for new contractors. When the products are complete, and information has been provided, I will set up a sales thread. NOTE: If you currently have a thread, please advise us if you will be adding these products to your threads. (Blueprints will NOT be for sale, however those involved will have concent to sell products. Prints may be available in the future, I just don't wan't ppl. "Running" with all the hard work YOU have put into the project.)

M.Uganda

Sambizie: The specifications for the "baseline" John F. Kennedy class carrier will be exactly the same as what was transmitted. However, the Adejaani variant will be "improved" in a few ways. For example, the large and vulnerable LIDAR dome at the aft of the hull may be replaced by large hull mounted arrays instead.....

Details will come for the new variant once it finishes construction.

Sambizie: The specifications for the "baseline" John F. Kennedy class carrier will be exactly the same as what was transmitted. However, the Adejaani variant will be "improved" in a few ways. For example, the large and vulnerable LIDAR dome at the aft of the hull may be replaced by large hull mounted arrays instead.....

Details will come for the new variant once it finishes construction.

That's fine, I would like mine to have the weapons of the ones you propose. OOC: I just did not wan't existing wepons to be removed, add what you will and include it with the specs..lol

EDIT: "Air to air" missiles fixed and placed further down in thread.

Other items, suitable for Hammerheads (remanufactured with materials to withstand the vacuum of space):

XAGM-88A HARM-S (space version) anti radar missile
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/agm88-s.jpg
Unit cost: 50,000

XAGM-114 Hellfire-S (space version) anti tank missile
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/longbowhellfire1-s.jpg
Unit cost: 40,000

XGM-65 Maverick-S (space version) multirole air to ground missile (Infrared seeker)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/agm-65_030322-n-3658d-004-s.jpg
Unit cost: 50,000

XGM-84A Harpoon-S (space version) light anti ship missile
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/harpoon-cg73-0006-s.jpg
Unit cost: 50,000

XGM-84B SLAM-S (space version) standoff land attack missile
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/slamf18s.jpg
Unit cost: 40,000

Western Asia, Could you put together a "cost" package also. I would like to sell the Hammerheads fully armed. And also provide extra weaponary at a cost also.
Adejaani, same for the JFK's. (Except the fighter's, APC's, and other equipment will be sold seperately).

Thanks much everyone. I am shooting for a release date for the Hammerheads...Thurs or Fri. if possible.

Western Asia, Could you put together a "cost" package also. I would like to sell the Hammerheads fully armed. And also provide extra weaponary at a cost also.
Adejaani, same for the JFK's. (Except the fighter's, APC's, and other equipment will be sold seperately).

Thanks much everyone. I am shooting for a release date for the Hammerheads...Thurs or Fri. if possible.

OOC: I'm gonna see about pulling together specs for the Mako and he EW/ECM Hammerhead (any title ideas on that one?) tonight. I'll try to do that, too.

Manufacturing update: Expected finish date of the first two prototype JFK class (by NS time, RL) will be the 18th of August, two (RL) days before the original specified build time. Later construction units will have even less (roughly 6 days RL time for building).

The cost for a "baseline" (to original specs) JFK carrier without Air Wing (but with full armaments and a full complement of missile/torpedo reloads): 60 billion

The cost for the "Adejaani variant" with the same above conditions: 65 billion.

The "Adejaani variant" is slightly more expensive despite the smaller crew complement and improved automation. The "Adejaani variant" has been redesigned more for long term missions in addition to the fitting of science labs and the like to make it less of a warship and more a general purpose vessel.

By the way, if anyone is interested in buying those missiles for use on their Hammerheads, please specify how many you want. :wink:

XGM-86A "Clubber": http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/calcm.jpg
(The XGM-86A basic mainframe. Note: the picture is that of the AGM-86C in use by the US Air Force)

The first missile produced is the XGM-86A and is designed to be a space based ANTI SHIP missile. The missile has a tested range of 10,000 kilometers with a speed of 5,000 meters per second delta v.

The warhead is unitary with a titanium core to punch through the ship's armor, with a warhead of roughly 2200 pounds (1 metric ton) OR nuclear warheads in equivalent size. But please NOTE the Republic of Adejaani will NOT manufacture any nuclear versions for sale, it is a political, not a military decision, though all the parts minus warhead may be made available for those seeking the nuclear variant.

What's the downside? In order to fit the large warhead and fuel in, there's absolutely NO guidance package whatsoever. It travels in exactly the same direction it was fired in, in other words, a straight line. (though for safety's sake, a self destruct will detonate it at a certain distance from the firing point).

The other downside? Well, due to the XGM-86A's weight, based on projections, the Hammerhead can only carry one missile (with a similar sized payload on the other wing to maintain a relatively stable flight profile. But please also note that based on computer projections, the large missile will pretty much cause an uneven "swing" in the flight envelope, in high energy maneuvers may cause the Hammerhead to spin out of control).

For the JFK (Adejaani variant design at the time of writing) class, the front hull would sport two forward superfiring launchers for the XGM-86A. But note that the tubes would have to be pointed directly at the target in order for the missile to hit because it has no guidance.

The advantage of this missile would be that it uses very little energy, with a very fast firing rate (approximately one launch every three seconds) and is expected to form one of the primary (if not the actual primary) weapon of the JFK class.

Manufacturer: Adejaani National Aerospace Ordnance Center
Typeclass and name: XGM-86A "Clubber"
Role: Large anti (space) vessel missile
Propulsion: Liquid oxygen oxidiser, parrafin based solid fuel
Length: 24 feet
Weight: 10 tons
Range: 10,000 kilometers
Speed: 5,000 meters per second delta v
Warhead: 2200 pounds/1 ton
Cost: Approx 1.5 million (US) dollars each


After consultation (thanks Agent_Bers and vonLlama in the IRC chat!), the earlier post of this should be ignored (will be edited out) and this is the PROPER set of statistics and description for it.

OK...lol

XAIM-120A SAMRAAM (space version)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/amraam-2-s.jpg
(Space AMRAAM)

It was inevitable the legendary AIM-120 AMRAAM would be adapted for space and here it is.

Employing the same Liquid Oxygen oxidizer/Parrafin mixture solid fuel, the XAIM-120 SAMRAAM (Space AMRAAM) features slightly more power and speed, but the SAMRAAM is roughly four times as large as its atmospheric cousin and employs thrust vectoring for its great maneuverability.

Both air launched (any platform with LIDAR and launch rails, even ISSCVs) and ship launched (from the Phalanx launchers), this missile is extremely versatile and is most often used to "swat enemies from the sky".

Unit replacement cost: 100,000 each

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XAIM-9 "Sidewinder-S"
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/aim-9-dvic405-s.jpg

To complement the SAMRAAM with something shorter ranged (the SAMRAAM is used for long range engagements), the same propulsion, scale up and thrust vectoring was used to bring the Sidewinder-S (Space version) into being.

Unit replacement cost: 70,000 each

Also available: launchers on the JFK class for launching the Sidewinder-S:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/97ram.jpg

HOY! FINAL SHIPYARDS COMPLETE!

Now make with the dough! We've got new lands to colonize!

http://invisionfree.com:54/85/115/upload/p1078.jpg
Grendelynne Magg
Lunar Mystic of the Burninatonian Hordes

Fantastic, Burninatonia! :D 100 billion dollars wired. THANK YOU! :D

OOC: Tomorrow, I would like to announce the Hammerheads sales. Please give me an updated Specs. (as they will appear on the thread), and the name of the manufacturing firm. Otherwise I'm just going to copy and paste what is already here. Thanks everyone.
M. Uganda

OOC: Tomorrow, I would like to announce the Hammerheads sales. Please give me an updated Specs. (as they will appear on the thread), and the name of the manufacturing firm. Otherwise I'm just going to copy and paste what is already here. Thanks everyone.
M. Uganda

OOC: I'm working on it, shouldn’t be too long in coming....read the update below also.
IC:
----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Industry News Report:"Hammerhead Group" Joint Manufacturers’ Commission reports: Successful Testing of PDE additions to Hammerhead "conventional action" engines, performance improvements expected in near future.<<<<

8/15/2003 1550 LST (RLT)
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---PROPULSION SYSTEM RESEARCH RECEIVES NEW 'BOOST'---
The Greater Israeli Motor Company (GIMC) and Greater Israel Aircraft Industries (GIAI) combine research to introduce new Hybrid "Pulse Detonation Engines" (PDEs). Expected to be a great boon to the operation of the craft; range to be extended—speed increased. Stocks rise, old systems can be retroactively upgraded in 1 day.

The Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC) announced today that a couple of the member corporations, the Greater Israeli Motor Company (stock symbol: GIMC); RAFAEL, Inc. (stock symbol: RFLI); and Greater Israel Aircraft Industries (stock symbol: GIAI), have developed a new type of engine for use in the SA-43 Hammerhead and related aircraft. This engine is also a very modular concept so integration into Western Asian transport and combat aircraft is expected within a few years (1 RL week).

While the technology has yet to be tested within the Hammerhead frame, the designers of the hybrid PDE system felt that it was the best platform for immediate integration thanks to the high strength and stability of the system, combined with the vibration-reduction systems built into the platform. Another craft which the hybrid PDE system is expected to be included on is the ever-mysterious F/B-27 Switchblade. Industry watchers have reported that this might be an attempt to boost the speed of the Switchblade to well above its currently-reported 3.25 mach.

There is also some talk of the creation of a supersonic cruise missile using this technology but with 'pure' PDEs, which would greatly increase the range and potency of missiles launched from Western Asia's naval and air forces as the overhead remains relatively unchanged.

Hybrid-Pulse Detonation Engines (H-PDEs) are based on conventional turbofan jet engines—the central core engine still turns a large fan in front to create some additional thrust through an air-bypass duct—but an engine specialist would have a hard time mistaking a Hybrid-PDE engine for a standard turbofan. A ring of PDEs is installed in the air-bypass duct, the walls of the duct are formed to force air into the ducts or into intentionally "open" spaces, which cool the system. The special design of the engine intakes allow for "valveless" alternations between tube pairs.

http://i.timeinc.net/popsci/images/space/space0903pulse_A3_500.jpg

While specifications and more in-depth descriptions of the system have not been released to the general public, it is known that the PDEs can operate efficiently up to six (6) times the speed of sound. The PDEs consume almost no fuel, by reports, but add greatly to both top speed and range for any turbofan aircraft that can bear the extra force. The main reported detractor from the use of the system is that the PDEs tend to create a good deal of vibration during operation, since each engine detonates over 80 times a second (reported to be in the mid-hundreds for this first generation system). Yet, by balancing detonations to diminish this effect and using shock-absorbing materials for the supports, it is expected that the vibrational energy added in the production aircraft will be "minimal" for the added benefit.

The projected top speed of the Switchblade is as high as Mach 4 and the atmospheric top speed for the Hammerhead and related craft is Mach 3.3 under atmospheric conditions. The greatest benefit arrives as the Trans-atmospheric craft produced by the Hammerhead Group can now feasibly reach beyond the atmospheric envelope in less time while using less fuel. The Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission hopes that this will allow the Hammerhead to perform extended extra-atmospheric missions without the strict limitations that are faced by the current systems.

The Hammerhead JMC reported that the new engines would be provided to Sambizie and the IDF when testing has proven the design to be viable. The extra-atmospheric portion of the engines is unaffected by this latest development and the electronic aircraft controls only need to have the operating protocols included in the next software patch.

Pilots only need to have a 30 minute lecture on the use of the system and the controls are now integrated into the eTaPE Sub-Commission’s "Universal Trans-Atmospheric Virtual Training System" (UTATS). System engineers and maintenance crews are going to require significant training but the Hammerhead JMC has already arranged to provide half-week colloquia on the maintenance of the system, from basic problem fixes up to major system overhauls.

It is expected that, for foreign sale, the HPDE system will be sold as an add-on option at first, eventually being taken up as a standard option.

OOC: EDIT: ALL MODELS NOW PROFILED. Samb, check the Primary Designation, Primary Function, Mission Profile, and Price Per Unit categories.

S-43 Line of Transatmospheric Manned Combat Craft

SA-43 HAMMERHEAD
BASICS
Make/Model (Designation): Sambizie/Hammerhead Commission SA-43 "Hammerhead" Endo/Exo Fighter.

Manufacturers: Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC, a consortium of Western Asian arms producers), Sambizian arms companies.
Production Capacity: (at full tilt) 30 units/day per factory (6 major dedicated assembly plants in WA, 9 subsystem production plants in WA, many subsystem and major construction plants in Sambizie.).

Price Per Unit (suggested retail value):
-- Standard Conventional/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $55 million
-- Hybrid-PDE/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $58 million
-- Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine: $68 million

Primary Designations:
- Endo-Exo Trans-atmospheric Attack Jet.
- Primary fighter of the Sambizie Marine Corps.
- Primary IDF Space Forces/GINASA armed fighter craft.
Primary Functions:
Sambizian: Deployment in combat missions (Combat Space Patrol), interception, Close Air Support (CAS) and Colonial Defense, but can also be adapted for SAR (Search and Rescue).
Western Asian: Combat Space Patrol, Transatmospheric Ground-Attack/Support, Transatmospheric Combat Interception, Exploratory Fleet Guard Vessels (eventual).


PERFORMANCE
Engines:
--Main Engines—
General (baseline 0): Type secret, used in jet with Mach 3.2+ capabilities. Dual-use: atmospheric (Conventional, "supercruise-capable"/Ramjet) and space (rocket propulsion).
General (baseline 1): Modified baseline 0 turbofan jet, employs a Hybrid-Pulse Detonation Engine (H-PDE) system to boost efficiency and power, mach 3.3. Dual-use: atmospheric (Conventional, "supercruise-capable"/Ramjet) and space (rocket propulsion).
SCRAMjet: He3 fuelled SCRAMjet (Supersonic Combustion RAMjet). SCRAMjet - enabling the SA-43 to fly from inside an atmospheric envelope to a transorbital phase right into ACM (Air Combat Maneuvering), in the (almost complete) vacuum of space.

--Ballistic Control/Extra-Atmospheric Maneuvering Jets—
Placed at various locations (and in various directions), controlled by computer and so used to modify the orientation of the craft while outside of any atmosphere.

Top Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "Over 2.4 Mach" (OOC: Mach 3+)
Baseline 1: "Over 3 Mach" (OOC: Mach 3.3 max burn)
Cruising Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "About 1.8 Mach" (OOC: 2.4 Mach)
Baseline 1: "Over 2 Mach" (OOC: Mach 2.6 supercruise)


Systems energy profile: Major control, life-support, and general systems energy derived from hydrogen fuel cells with petrochemical-catalytic abilities. Specialized heat-recapture and dye-based photovoltaic (sensitive to visible and IR wavelengths) systems allow the by-products of operation and even the surface of the aircraft to generate energy.

Minor power reserves (battery) derived from specialized dyes which, when painted onto conductive metal surfaces, act as a photovoltaic power source (sensitive to visible and IR wavelengths) and specialized heat-recapture systems. NOTE: photovoltaic systems are on metallic conductive surfaces placed underneath clear or translucent composite surfaces that protect the craft from a variety of damages.

Mission Profile:
Specific SA-43 tasks include:
- Intercept and destroy enemy craft in conjunction with ground or airborne fighter control under all-endo/exo conditions.
- Conduct day and night close air support.
- Conduct day and night deep air support. Deep air support consists of LIDAR/RADAR search and attack, interdiction, and strikes against enemy installations using all types of weapons compatible with assigned craft.
- Conduct armed escort of friendly craft.
- Be able to operate from spacecraft carriers, advanced bases, and expeditionary airfields.
- Be able to deploy or conduct extended range operations employing aerial refueling.


CONTROL
Manuevering:
--Atmospheric—
Completed "conventionally" with the use of moving flaps and directional-thrust engines.
--Extra-Atmospheric—
Completed by use of maneuvering jets, computer aided movement (manual override possible). Use of a pair of diagonally-mounted "joysticks" that are extended to the pilot on motile ‘arms’ once the pilot has locked into his seat and once the craft has been given the proper activation code (note: for theft and operational security, each craft is provided with Use Authorization Codes (UACs) that can be shifted to protect the craft from use by spies and/or enemy agents.

Crew: 1 pilot (+AI target identification, acquisition, and engagement program. AI ship control system).

WEAPONS/ARMAMENT
Gun- and Directed Energy (DE)-Based:
1 x frontal, sub-nose gimbal-mounted electro-magnetic railgun (capable of covering a 50° kill-zone)
1 x dual-barrel aft-mounted railgun, mounted in AI-guided semiautonomous turret.
2 x double-barreled nose laser mounts. One of each pair fires Anti-Shield "lasers" (for shield break-down) and other of pair fires "Plasma Lasers" (for hard targets).

Missiles, Rockets, Torpedoes:
- 2, Wing Pylons (1 per wing), Triple Mount. (Total of 6 hardpoints, capable of bearing missiles, bombs, rocket packs, fuel/supply pods, or general EW/ECM pods)
- 1 In-body XWM-111 (Rotary, Multi-use weapons mount), 6-10 weapons per mount, dependant upon payload type. Fully compliant with weapons specs provided by Sambizian engineers. Limited to small-size missiles, rockets, and space torpedoes.
- Alternate Option: 2, In-body bays (Capacity: 3 missiles/rockets per bay or 1 Torpedo per bay).

DIMENSIONS
Length : 11.5m
Height : 1.7m
Wingspan : 12.5m


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SB-43 MAKO
BASICS
Make/Model (Designation): Sambizie/Hammerhead Commission SB-43 "Mako" Endo/Exo Fighter/Bomber.

Manufacturers: Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC, a consortium of Western Asian arms producers), Sambizian arms companies.
Production Capacity: (at full tilt) 20 units/day per factory (3 major dedicated assembly plants in WA (4th in works), 4 subsystem production plants in WA, many subsystem and major construction (in works) plants in Sambizie, many subsystem production plant roles covered by Hammerhead subsystems plants).

Price Per Unit (suggested retail value):
-- Standard Conventional/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $62 million
-- Hybrid-PDE/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $64 million
-- Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine: $73 million

Primary Designations:
- Endo-Exo Transatmospheric Bomber.
- Primary bomber (?) of the Sambizie Marine Corps.
- Primary IDF Space Forces/GINASA armed bomber craft.
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Primary Functions:
Sambizian: Deployment in combat missions (Combat Space Patrol), interception, Close Air Support (CAS) and Colonial Defense, but can also be adapted for SAR (Search and Rescue).
Western Asian: Combat Space Patrol, Transatmospheric Ground-Attack/Support, Transatmospheric Combat Interception, Exploratory Fleet Guard Vessels (eventual).


PERFORMANCE
Engines:
<<NOTE: Engine systems basically identical to Hammerhead systems>>

<<NOTE: Somewhat slower than the Hammerhead>>
Top Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "Over 2.2 Mach" (OOC: Mach 2.8 )
Baseline 1: "Over 2.8 Mach" (OOC: Mach 3.25 max burn)
Cruising Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "About 1.6 Mach" (OOC: 2.2 Mach)
Baseline 1: "Over 2 Mach" (OOC: Mach 2.5 supercruise)


Systems energy profile:
<<NOTE: Energy systems profile basically identical to Hammerhead systems>>

Mission Profile:
Specific SB-43 tasks include:
- Intercept and destroy enemy craft (Especially large craft. Space: capitol ships, corvettes, battleships, frigates, etc; Air: gravships, bombers, etc), facilities/bases, ground forces, and other large or heavy targets subject to bombing or large-capacity missile strikes in conjunction with ground or airborne fighter control under all-endo/exo conditions.
- Conduct day and night close air support.
- Conduct day and night deep air support. Deep air support consists of LIDAR/RADAR search and attack, interdiction, and strikes against enemy installations using all types of weapons compatible with assigned craft.
- Conduct armed escort of friendly craft.
- Be able to operate from spacecraft carriers, advanced bases, and expeditionary airfields.
- Be able to deploy or conduct extended range operations employing aerial refueling.


CONTROL
<<NOTE: Primary flight control systems basically identical to Hammerhead systems, with only an additional listing of weapons in the fire control systems and some added weight. A second seat, placed in front of the previous seat, is the location for the bomber/navigator (weapons officer).

Crew: 2. 1 pilot, 1 weapons officer (+AI target identification, acquisition, and engagement program. AI ship control system).

WEAPONS/ARMAMENT
Gun- and Directed Energy (DE)-Based:
1 x frontal, sub-nose gimbal-mounted electro-magnetic railgun (capable of covering a 50° kill-zone)
1 x dual-barrel aft-mounted railgun, mounted in AI-guided semiautonomous turret.
2 x double-barreled nose laser mounts. One of each pair fires Anti-Shield "lasers" (for shield break-down) and other of pair fires "Plasma Lasers" (for hard targets).

Missiles, Rockets, Torpedoes:
- 4, Wing Pylons (2 per wing), Triple Mount. (Total of 12 hardpoints, capable of bearing missiles, bombs, rocket packs, fuel/supply pods, or general EW/ECM pods)
- 2 In-body XWM-111s (Rotary, Multi-use weapons mount), 6-10 weapons per mount, dependant upon payload type. Fully compliant with weapons specs provided by Sambizian engineers. Limited to small-size missiles, rockets, and space torpedoes.

DIMENSIONS
Length : 13.5m
Height : 1.75m
Wingspan : 15.5m


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SEA-43 HOWLER
BASICS
Make/Model (Designation): Sambizie/Hammerhead Commission SEA-43 "Howler" Endo/Exo Electronic Warfare/Electronic Countermeasures (EW/ECM) craft.

Manufacturers: Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC, a consortium of Western Asian arms producers), Sambizian arms companies.

Production Capacity: (at full tilt) 15 units/day per factory (1 major dedicated assembly plants in WA (2nd and 3rd in works), 5 subsystem production plants in WA, subsystem and major construction (in works) plants in Sambizie, many subsystem production plant roles covered by Hammerhead subsystems plants).

Price Per Unit (suggested retail value):
-- Standard Conventional/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $63 million
-- Hybrid-PDE/Ramjet engine with Rocket-based Space Propulsion: $65 million
-- Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine: $74 million

Primary Designations:
- Endo-Exo Transatmospheric EW/ECM support craft.
- Primary IDF Space Forces/GINASA armed EW/ECM craft.

Primary Functions:
Sambizian: Deployment in combat missions (Combat Space Patrol) in support of primary combat craft, Close Air Support (CAS) and Colonial Defense support, Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD)/ Suppression of Enemy Space Defenses (SESD), and Electronic Warfare/Electronic Countermeasures (EW/ECM), Radar and Detection system Search and Destroy.
Western Asian: Combat Space Patrol in support of primary combat craft, Transatmospheric Ground-Attack/Support, Transatmospheric Combat Interception, Exploratory Fleet Guard Vessels (eventual), Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD)/ Suppression of Enemy Space Defenses (SESD), and Electronic Warfare/Electronic Countermeasures (EW/ECM), Radar and Detection system Search and Destroy.


PERFORMANCE
Engines:
<<NOTE: Engine systems basically identical to Hammerhead and identical to Mako systems>>

<<NOTE: Somewhat slower than the Hammerhead, as fast as Mako>>
Top Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "Over 2.2 Mach" (OOC: Mach 2.8 )
Baseline 1: "Over 2.8 Mach" (OOC: Mach 3.25 max burn)
Cruising Speed (atmospheric):
Baseline 0: "About 1.6 Mach" (OOC: 2.2 Mach)
Baseline 1: "Over 2 Mach" (OOC: Mach 2.5 supercruise)


Systems energy profile:
<<NOTE: Energy systems profile basically identical to Hammerhead and Mako systems. Some extra batteries and fuel cells are present to support EW/ECM equipment.>>

Mission Profile:
Specific SAE-43 tasks include:
- Intercept and attack enemy craft- and ground-based electronic detection, attack, and defensives systems and capabilities in conjunction with ground or airborne fighter control under all-endo/exo conditions.
- Conduct day and night close air support (CAS), supportive measures of primary combat craft.
- Conduct day and night deep air support. Deep air support consists of LIDAR/RADAR search and attack, interdiction, and strikes against enemy installations using all types of weapons compatible with assigned craft.
- Conduct supportive and armed escort of friendly craft.
- Be able to operate from spacecraft carriers, advanced bases, and expeditionary airfields.
- Be able to deploy or conduct extended range operations employing aerial refueling.
- Information Warfare (IW) operations by the destruction of IW-related "hardware."

CONTROL
<<NOTE: Primary flight control systems basically identical to Hammerhead systems, with only an additional listing of weapons in the fire control systems and some added weight. A second seat, placed in front of the previous seat, is the location for the Electronic Warfare Officer (EW/ECM systems crew chief).

Crew: 2. 1 pilot, 1 EW/ECM system crew chief(+AI target identification, acquisition, and engagement program. AI ship control system).

WEAPONS/ARMAMENT
Gun- and Directed Energy (DE)-Based:
1 x frontal, sub-nose gimbal-mounted electro-magnetic railgun (capable of covering a 50° kill-zone)
1 x dual-barrel aft-mounted railgun, mounted in AI-guided semiautonomous turret.
2 x double-barreled nose laser mounts. One of each pair fires Anti-Shield "lasers" (for shield break-down) and other of pair fires "Plasma Lasers" (for hard targets).

NOTE: a HERF (High Energy Radio Frequency) emitter is being researched to replace the laser mounts present in the "Hammerhead" and "Mako" Endo/Exo craft for the "Howler."

Missiles, Rockets, Torpedoes:
- 4, Wing Pylons (2 per wing), Triple Mount. (Total of 12 hardpoints, capable of bearing missiles, bombs, rocket packs, fuel/supply pods, or additional EW/ECM pods). Only 6 hardpoints are available as the other 6 are used to carry EW/ECM equipment, 2 EMP missiles (various types and effective ranges), and 2 HARM or other EW-supportive weapons.
- 1 In-body XWM-111 (Rotary, Multi-use weapons mount), 6-10 weapons per mount, dependant upon payload type. Fully compliant with weapons specs provided by Sambizian engineers. Limited to small-size missiles, rockets, and space torpedoes.

(NOTE: Missile systems specifically adapted to accept and employ EMP missiles and EW-related weapons. Customized software allows for special uses.)

Other Weapons Systems
- One XWM-111/bomb bay area is replaced by EW/ECM equipment. Equipment pod protrudes slightly so that the "Howler" can be visually ID’d by the 4in/10cm protrusion on one part of the ventral area where a "Mako" would have a second XWM-111 pod. The system is nearly identical to that placed on Western Asia’s F/A-18G (EA-18 ) "Growler" EW/ECM airplane.
- Wings contain antennae for use in EW/ECM operations.

DIMENSIONS
Length : 13.5m
Height : 1.75m
Wingspan : 15.5m

Excellent WA...I'll copy and paste for the sales thread....I'll do this later tonight, after I get the specs for the JFK's.

THANKS A BUNCH!!



OOC: NOTE: We are offering you the contract for further develepment of other compatible craft of the JFK. I'll get back to you later.

M. Uganda

Excellent WA...I'll copy and paste for the sales thread....I'll do this later tonight, after I get the specs for the JFK's.

THANKS A BUNCH!!



OOC: NOTE: We are offering you the contract for further develepment of other compatible craft of the JFK. I'll get back to you later.

M. Uganda
OOC:
I'll try to get the SEA-43 "Howler" out soon, but a family party and EMT class finals might delay it. If you have anything just TM me (or PM me on the UTP forums).

OOC: What's the difference between the Hammerhead and the Mako? I know the Hammerhead has air to air as primary, with air to ground as secondary. So is the Mako air to ground as primary, air to air as secondary? Not that it really matters, well, okay, it does for my air wing composition.....

OOC: What's the difference between the Hammerhead and the Mako? I know the Hammerhead has air to air as primary, with air to ground as secondary. So is the Mako air to ground as primary, air to air as secondary? Not that it really matters, well, okay, it does for my air wing composition.....
OOC:
The Mako is a bomber/heavy fighter (I might remove the forward laser cannons to add to this focus...). It can be used in atmospheric conditions as a system more towards targeting structures, ground forces, naval vessels, or even large aircraft (ie, gravships). In space, it would be more focused towards dealing damage to large ships while the Hammerhead is focused towards fighting other fighter craft.

I am mainly going from my extremely limited knowledge of space SciFi/fiction, where "bombers" are really just heavier and larger fighters that are focused towards attacking larger targets rather than other fighters.

True to the traditions of conventional aerial combat, the "bombers" will have some limited AA capabilities and the "fighters" will have some limited bombing capabilities...but also, in that tradition, the best use will be a bomber squadron operating in conjunction with a fighter escourt squadron.

The main tactical use of the Mako is for space-to-surface strikes, where the Mako could bear CALCMs and medium or light-weight bombs at a much greater level than the Hammerheads. The dedicated weapons crewman also gives the strikes greater accuracy and the bomber better maneuvering (as the pilot can focus on his maneuvering almost completely and the weapons officer can focus on perfoming the bombing/strike mission)...the pilot would probably still control the guns and the AAMs, but mostly so that he can dogfight when he needs to.

The reason I'm making the Howler is that EW/ECM aircraft have become essential parts of modern strike missions launched from naval aircraft carriers. These craft allow the fighters and bombers to approach in a haze of electonic 'fuzz' that electronically "cloaks" these assets from the view of the enemy electronic monitoring (Radar, etc) (they also bear HARMs and other such weapons to "act directly" against those enemy systems)...enhancing their ability to strike with the least possible amount of resistance. In space, where the lack of atmosphere allows EM waves to extend an almost infinite distance, these craft would be extremely useful in combating enemy activities and responses.

OOC: All model profiles now up...specs have been modified slightly at some points to better reflect the realities of each system.

OOC: All model profiles now up...specs have been modified slightly at some points to better reflect the realities of each system.

OOC: What page? So I can add them to the sales thread. BTW...how do you wan't to work the sales end of it. I have created a thread for Sambizie and named you and Adejaani as authorized dealers. Did you just wan't to keep the $ of the ones you sell on your thread? or should we do a 50/50 on all sales from all threads?

OOC: All model profiles now up...specs have been modified slightly at some points to better reflect the realities of each system.

OOC: What page? So I can add them to the sales thread. BTW...how do you wan't to work the sales end of it. I have created a thread for Sambizie and named you and Adejaani as authorized dealers. Did you just wan't to keep the $ of the ones you sell on your thread? or should we do a 50/50 on all sales from all threads?

OOC: Previous page, where all of the other specs were.

I do NOT want to deal with the "sales end" of it. While I might offer it on a case-by-case basis, any transactions will be routed (if OOCly) through the main store. I'll try to TM you about any sales so that you can keep track of things (remember to adjust profits based on the "wholesale" prices that I gave you before (outlining how much it would cost you, Adj, or myself to produce/acquire the systems ourselves)).

OOC: Pomp and pagentry! It's done! :D

Sambizie: What's the status of the ISSCV? I need it to figure out what sort of an Air Group I should have.....

IC:

President Morghan J. Harrington smoothed the notes in front of her as she stared out at the various dignitaries. "Ladies and gentlemen. It is my pleasure to commission these two fine vessels, the first ships in the Adejaani Republic Space Corps. I won't take up too much of your time, so here they are! I commission these two ships ANS Constitution (SCV-1) and ANS Constellation (SCV-2)!"

http://www.space-readyroom.de/toga1.jpg
(ANS Constellation, having just left drydock)

"Both ships are variants of the John F. Kennedy class carriers, dubbed the 'Constitution' variant, after our first manufactured unit and features a number of improvements. But that is of no concern to us! What matters is that we are now space capable!"

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The changes from the baseline JFK are as follows:

1: The large and vulnerable LIDAR dome has been replaced with large phased radar arrays mounted into the sides of the hull. As such, the entire dome is removed.

2: Revision of crew arrangements, as well as slightly improved automation has changed the crew complement to:
• Approximately 900 Navy personnel (responsible for the maintenance and operation of the vessel itself)
• Approximately 1100 Air Force personnel (pilots, technicians and ground crew for the Air Wing)
• Approximately 300 Marine Corps personnel (three companies plus a Headquarters unit)

These are the "base" figures. In the event of wartime, the number of Air Force personnel are estimated to roughly increase by 50% (to augment the larger Air Wing) and roughly 300% for the Marine Corps personnel (a stripped down Battalion).

3: The 72 torpedo launchers have been removed, mostly replaced with lightweight launchers to fire the XAIM-9A Sidewinder-S (Space version Sidewinder).

4: A single forward superfiring (namely no guidance, it fires where the ship points) Gauss cannon is mounted on the upper side of the hull. Designed primarly to fire unguided 30 inch projectiles for planetary bombardment.

5: Six forward superfiring torpedo tubes have been included, to launch the XGM-86A "Clubber" anti ship missile

The rest of the design is essentially unchanged, though the "Constitution" subclass is expected to carry a slightly changed Air Wing of:

• 144x SA-43 Hammerhead
• 96x SB-43 Mako
• 12x SA-43 Hammerhead (with reconnaisance equipment)
• 12x Electronic Warfare aircraft
• 12x Early Warning And Control aircraft
• 48x ISSCV

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OOC:

Sambizie: You now need to decide how your three JFKs will be outfitted and then I'll begin construction.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/quincyw/adejaani/president_harrington.jpg
President Morghan J. Harrington
Republic of Adejaani
Loyal member of the APTO
Tech level: Late Modern/Early Space
Military alert status at time of writing: "ECHO THREE"
Bold, Resolute, Without Remorse

"The Republic was not established by cowards!"

OOC: I'll see about the special equipment...it'll probably require that the XWM-111 be replaced by the specialized equipment.

I don't think that I could justify scaling up the Hammerhead to the size of an AWACS...but I'm not sure about the use of the dropship design for that either. That's Samb's call.

OOC: I'll see about the special equipment...it'll probably require that the XWM-111 be replaced by the specialized equipment.

I don't think that I could justify scaling up the Hammerhead to the size of an AWACS...but I'm not sure about the use of the dropship design for that either. That's Samb's call.

How about an ISSCV as an AWACs? I can shrink the phased radar arrays I installed on the Saratoga down and the "cargo" section can hold the operators and techs required.

OOC: I'll see about the special equipment...it'll probably require that the XWM-111 be replaced by the specialized equipment.

I don't think that I could justify scaling up the Hammerhead to the size of an AWACS...but I'm not sure about the use of the dropship design for that either. That's Samb's call.

How about an ISSCV as an AWACs? I can shrink the phased radar arrays I installed on the Saratoga down and the "cargo" section can hold the operators and techs required.

I meant the ISSCV when I said "dropship design" though perhaps I was mistaking one for another....anyways, the main Q is if it can handle possibly being attacked. Who made the ISSCV anyways? They'd have to take care of that mod.

OOC: I'll see about the special equipment...it'll probably require that the XWM-111 be replaced by the specialized equipment.

I don't think that I could justify scaling up the Hammerhead to the size of an AWACS...but I'm not sure about the use of the dropship design for that either. That's Samb's call.

How about an ISSCV as an AWACs? I can shrink the phased radar arrays I installed on the Saratoga down and the "cargo" section can hold the operators and techs required.

I meant the ISSCV when I said "dropship design" though perhaps I was mistaking one for another....anyways, the main Q is if it can handle possibly being attacked. Who made the ISSCV anyways? They'd have to take care of that mod.

Let's make a post pyramid! :P I think Sambizie gave me the ISSCV design. I dunno, I set up a factory to make 12 a day. The ISSCV is big and clunky, but you'd never send it without escort.....

How about the recon aircraft? Can you hang recon pods on Hammerheads?

OOC: I'll see about the special equipment...it'll probably require that the XWM-111 be replaced by the specialized equipment.

I don't think that I could justify scaling up the Hammerhead to the size of an AWACS...but I'm not sure about the use of the dropship design for that either. That's Samb's call.

How about an ISSCV as an AWACs? I can shrink the phased radar arrays I installed on the Saratoga down and the "cargo" section can hold the operators and techs required.

I meant the ISSCV when I said "dropship design" though perhaps I was mistaking one for another....anyways, the main Q is if it can handle possibly being attacked. Who made the ISSCV anyways? They'd have to take care of that mod.

Let's make a post pyramid! :P I think Sambizie gave me the ISSCV design. I dunno, I set up a factory to make 12 a day. The ISSCV is big and clunky, but you'd never send it without escort.....

How about the recon aircraft? Can you hang recon pods on Hammerheads?
OOC:
Yay! Post pyramids!!! :)

Ok, sounds fine then.

I'll be making a recon version of the Hammerhead....just replaces the XWM-111 with a recon package (optical and other sensors/info-gathering equipment). Just cost-added for package (say about 2-3million for a package that can be just swapped into a normal Hammerhead or Mako at the cost (for the mission) of the bay). I can do an IC press report after wednesday this week.

'till then, g'night.

To our good friends in Sambizie: All three of your "Constitution" variant of the JFK carriers will be in your possession by the (Forum day) 24th of August.

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As for the question of the ISSCV/APC. First, I never knew there was a difference. :? Second, I stand by my (S-43 thread) of 1 factory making 12 airframes (I'll open a second factory to make it 24 per RL day).

For the price, I dunno. I'd say about 40 million each?

Here is the information you requested Adejaani:

ISSAPC:
PRINT: http://www.space-readyroom.de/SAAB_Isscv_2.jpg

The Inter Solar System Armored Personnel Carrier is designed to interface with the ISSCV, and provides the means of transportation for military operations. It has been nicknamed "Flying Winnebago", due to its resemblance to that vehicle.

Specs:
Endo-Exo Trans-atmospheric InterStellar Space Cargo Vehicle/Armoured Personnel Vehicle
Primary Function : A smaller transport ship used to travel from one system to another.

Length : 50 meters
Height : 4.8 meters
Wingspan : 4 meters
Ferry range: N/A
Combat radius: N/A
Fighter mission: N/A
Attack mission: N/A
Manoeuverability: N/A

Propulsion : 6 HE3 Fuselage Core Realspace Thrusters with 7.6 Gs max acceleration

Engines : 2 SCAMjet intakes for Atmospheric Flight

Armament : Nose mounted 12 megawatt twin laser pulse cannon turret capable of 180 degree swivels but with low elevation and depression, a back mounted 8.4 megawatt twin laser pulse cannon turret capable of 360 degree and -3 depression swivels that are used with a headgear guide and two side hatch mounted 10 mm Gauss laser machine cannons located at the starboard and port sections of the ship.
Features: The vessel carries a box-like cargo or troop compartment, which can be dropped off.

LIDAR : Laser Infrared/Imaging Detection And Ranging. Long Range, configurable. Can track and engage up to 100 independent targets.

HUD : Heads-Up Display. Mainly used for displaying flight parameters, navigational information and overall combat intelligence.

ODP : Optical Disk Playback. Used for mission data recordings. Can be used lateron for mission evaluation.

Crew : 2 pilots / 1 board sniper / 1 navigator
Introduction date: N/A
Unit Replacement Cost: N/A

Mission: This is the main combat configuration of the ISSCV series. The APC is capable of transporting 30 soldiers to touch down and extraction sites. The APC module also contains an EW station equipped with a LIDAR system capable of monitoring enemy activity.

ISSCV:
PRINTS: http://www.space-readyroom.de/SAAB_Isscv_1.jpg

The Inter Solar System Cargo Vessel is a large, rectangular modular containment vessel capable of carrying human and mechanical cargo alike. The ISSCV is transported by the ISSAPC, and can serve as a base of operations.

To our good friends in Sambizie: All three of your "Constitution" variant of the JFK carriers will be in your possession by the (Forum day) 24th of August.

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As for the question of the ISSCV/APC. First, I never knew there was a difference. :? Second, I stand by my (S-43 thread) of 1 factory making 12 airframes (I'll open a second factory to make it 24 per RL day).

For the price, I dunno. I'd say about 40 million each?

Ok, cool...Yeah I was thinking around 35-40 to make and we'll sell @ 45-50...lol :lol:

Oh, the CV is the "crane" and the APC is the "box"! *Understanding dawns* :roll::P

I stick with my 24 per RL day of ISSCV with an even split 24/24 of the cargo and troop ISSAPC modules. Construction will begin immediately, first batches will be available tomorrow.

OOC: Samb, I take it you've received my note about the raw prices? If you have, send it on to Adej or just tell me in this thread and I'll do it myself.

Actually, leave my pricing out of this. I'll only make my quota and YOU sell them. My nation is made up of mindless manufacturing drones. :P

Actually, leave my pricing out of this. I'll only make my quota and YOU sell them. My nation is made up of mindless manufacturing drones. :P

OOC: Hahaha..lol

Western Asia: Looks like me and you will be handeling the $. So the prices look good. We'll sell the ISSAPC / ISCCV for $40 Million as a pair. I am assuming that the ISSAPC will be getting more use than the Cargo Vessel. If the wan't to buy additional ISCCV's we'll charge....(?)

Adejaani: If you just wan't to stick to ISSAPC's & ISSCV's that's fine.
OOC: NE, SA, and Illior are also making "Hammerheads". I will be making quanity of all until my Carriers are complete. Trying to hold 10 per day :wink:

Western Asia: Looks like me and you will be handeling the $. So the prices look good. We'll sell the ISSAPC / ISCCV for $40 Million as a pair. I am assuming that the ISSAPC will be getting more use than the Cargo Vessel. If the wan't to buy additional ISCCV's we'll charge....(?)


Hmmm? So that's one carrying unit with one pod of each type? I say just sell the carrier units (with one pod) for that much (larger size makes up for less power/complexity in costs). Then sell the pods individually for a certain amount...making it a very modular system.



OOC: NE, SA, and Illior are also making "Hammerheads". I will be making quanity of all until my Carriers are complete. Trying to hold 10 per day :wink:

Ummm, that's a good thing, right?

Hmmm? So that's one carrying unit with one pod of each type? I say just sell the carrier units (with one pod) for that much (larger size makes up for less power/complexity in costs). Then sell the pods individually for a certain amount...making it a very modular system.

So like, $5-10 for each pod?

Ummm, that's a good thing, right?

Very good, they are not authorized to sell the "Hammerhead" nor can it be used against APTO, but they retain a certain % of the product for their nations...They are all in my region.

No, I can build them all, including Hammerheads.

I'll just siphon off (at the beginning) a share of the Hammerheads and Makos and ISSCV/APCs, pay a small "fee" to WA for the recon and AWACs ones.

After I get all the aircraft I need, all produced units (Hammerheads, Makos, Howlers, ISSCV/APC), you can do what you like with them. Keep them for selling, hood ornaments, boat anchors, whatever. *L*

I'll probably be (IC) creating spare parts and low rate production to replace losses through combat or accidents or to replace old ones though.

OOC:

Hmmm? So that's one carrying unit with one pod of each type? I say just sell the carrier units (with one pod) for that much (larger size makes up for less power/complexity in costs). Then sell the pods individually for a certain amount...making it a very modular system.

So like, $5-10 for each pod?

If there's an "m" at the end of that $5-10 then sure :D , maybe 5-15 depending (I think that 10 might be about right, as the pods are fairly "throw-away" objects).


Ummm, that's a good thing, right?

Very good, they are not authorized to sell the "Hammerhead" nor can it be used against APTO, but they retain a certain % of the product for their nations...They are all in my region.

Sounds ok....

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Adej, I'll try to do specs on the Recon one thursday and friday (I'm out tomorrow). You can do the AWACS and then we can exchange tech.

Adej, I'll try to do specs on the Recon one thursday and friday (I'm out tomorrow). You can do the AWACS and then we can exchange tech.

Actually, the AWACS version of the ISSCV is extremely simple and it's DONE.

I took a simple cargo module, stripped it, mounted the same LIDAR phased array panels as on my version of the JFK on the side. In the interior, there are eight consoles and eight operators to manage it all.

Since there is NO modification at all to the ISSCV, the only "cost" for the AWACS version is the cost of the AWACS module itself, which I'll say is maybe 10 million (on top of the 50 of the ISSCV).

I'll just say that the detection range is about 20,000 kilometers (I think it's about half the range of the shipboard version).

OOC: W/E you say :D

What did you have in mind with the recon version anyway? If it's just the simple matter of a recon pod with datalinks, I could just "space-mod" the Digital TARPs in use by F-14 Tomcats which can send the information "live" back to the Carrier/AWACS.

We could also go for broke a bit and include target designator equipment, too.....

What did you have in mind with the recon version anyway? If it's just the simple matter of a recon pod with datalinks, I could just "space-mod" the Digital TARPs in use by F-14 Tomcats which can send the information "live" back to the Carrier/AWACS.

We could also go for broke a bit and include target designator equipment, too.....

Actually, that was just about it....I just don't have the time right now.

The Dominion of Cho Gal would like to call it a day with our sudden buying spree by making one last order, specifically handling the armament of our recently purchased craft.

OOC: Any more cuts in welfare and the people are going to have to start living in these vehicles...good thing our nation has been doing just about nothing but pulling money out of auto manufacturing for eventual usage in defense. But who could pass up an offer like this? :?

IC: We would like to order the following eqipment from an approved dealer (from what we gather, that would be Adejaani):

200 XAGM-88A HARM-S ($10 million)
25 XGM-86A Clubber ($37.5 million)
500 XAIM-120A SAMRAAM ($50 million)
500 XAIM-9 Sidewinder-S ($35 million)
Total: $132.5 million

The funds will be transferred as soon as the order is confirmed.

The Dominion of Cho Gal would like to call it a day with our sudden buying spree by making one last order, specifically handling the armament of our recently purchased craft.

OOC: Any more cuts in welfare and the people are going to have to start living in these vehicles...good thing our nation has been doing just about nothing but pulling money out of auto manufacturing for eventual usage in defense. But who could pass up an offer like this? :?

IC: We would like to order the following eqipment from an approved dealer (from what we gather, that would be Adejaani):

200 XAGM-88A HARM-S ($10 million)
25 XGM-86A Clubber ($37.5 million)
500 XAIM-120A SAMRAAM ($50 million)
500 XAIM-9 Sidewinder-S ($35 million)
Total: $132.5 million

The funds will be transferred as soon as the order is confirmed.

Dear Cho Gal.....

You're the first customer I've had. :? It's so sad, no one wants my equipment. :cry:

EDIT: The XGM-86A "Clubber" is now being sold only to operators of the John F. Kennedy class carriers due to the fact that two Adejaani Hammerhead pilots lost their lives after their Hammerheads failed to generate enough thrust (they subsequently collided with the ANS Constellation).

However, the revised order of:

200 XAGM-88A HARM-S ($10 million)
500 XAIM-120A SAMRAAM ($50 million)
500 XAIM-9 Sidewinder-S ($35 million)
Total: $95 million

Is accepted. Once money is wired, the weapons will be sent to you. Thanks and come again!

We are shocked to hear that no other nations have approached you for the acquisition of these missiles. We are quite curious as to how the other nations (quite a few, in fact) that have purchased Hammerheads are planning on stocking them with a payload. Albeit that they're quite well equipped with onboard weaponry, combat against well-armored cruisers and such seems near impossible without additional weaponry...

In any case, we're deeply saddened to hear that the Clubber is unavailable to any nations without a JFK class carrier. Likewise, I and the rest of the High Council of Cho Gal would like to send our condolences to the friends and family of the two pilots who lost their lives in the accident involving the ANS Constellation. However our nation is looking into purchasing a sizeable carrier in the near future, once we procure the additional funds to amass a larger fleet. At that time, we hope to speak to you again about procuring these formidable warheads.

The revised total of $95 million will be wired to you immediately, and a cargo vessel will arrive tomorrow to return the missiles to our airbases where we will load them into our Hammerheads and Makos. A pleasure doing business with you.

We are shocked to hear that no other nations have approached you for the acquisition of these missiles. We are quite curious as to how the other nations (quite a few, in fact) that have purchased Hammerheads are planning on stocking them with a payload. Albeit that they're quite well equipped with onboard weaponry, combat against well-armored cruisers and such seems near impossible without additional weaponry...

In any case, we're deeply saddened to hear that the Clubber is unavailable to any nations without a JFK class carrier. Likewise, I and the rest of the High Council of Cho Gal would like to send our condolences to the friends and family of the two pilots who lost their lives in the accident involving the ANS Constellation. However our nation is looking into purchasing a sizeable carrier in the near future, once we procure the additional funds to amass a larger fleet. At that time, we hope to speak to you again about procuring these formidable warheads.

The revised total of $95 million will be wired to you immediately, and a cargo vessel will arrive tomorrow to return the missiles to our airbases where we will load them into our Hammerheads and Makos. A pleasure doing business with you.

EDIT: My bad. Ignore this if you saw it. If not..... :roll:

I'm developing a version of the Harpoon for use in space, as a stopgap replacement for fighters..... I'll let you know if things go right with that.

As a side question, how can you NOT have enough money? I checked your info. 1.2 billion and a Frightening economy and you have no money??? I've got 360+ million with a Frightening and I have several Trillion dollars to play with.....

We have our money tied up in...other places...I assure you, it's quite a tight budget with the several research projects we've been embarking on. Although the funds are technically available, the Council would be angering quite a few people with some reasonable power if we cut funds to certain sectors. After all, when does a nation of 1.2 billion advertise everything that they're doing :?: In due time, worrying over petty billions will be a thing of the past.

OOC: To answer the question about where I procured the Hammerheads, I ordered 125 Hammerheads and 25 Makos on "Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:57 pm" (copied directly from the time/date stamp on the message board) from Sambizie. My order was confirmed by Sambizie on "Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:20 pm", and the funds were immediately transferred, with a confirmation that the craft would be ready in 1 RL day. The link to the page containing this transaction is http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62892&start=40.

EDIT: Well that's what I get for being long winded, I miss the edits... :roll:

We have our money tied up in...other places...I assure you, it's quite a tight budget with the several research projects we've been embarking on. Although the funds are technically available, the Council would be angering quite a few people with some reasonable power if we cut funds to certain sectors. After all, when does a nation of 1.2 billion advertise everything that they're doing :?: In due time, worrying over petty billions will be a thing of the past.

OOC: To answer the question about where I procured the Hammerheads, I ordered 125 Hammerheads and 25 Makos on "Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:57 pm" (copied directly from the time/date stamp on the message board) from Sambizie. My order was confirmed by Sambizie on "Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:20 pm", and the funds were immediately transferred, with a confirmation that the craft would be ready in 1 RL day. The link to the page containing this transaction is http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62892&start=40.

I know, I'm sorry about the accusation. Even though I'm an "Authorised Dealer", I prefer to make and let the sales go to the other people.

The Republic of Adejaani hereby makes a formal apology to Cho Gal for the unwarranted accusation.

Getting back to business, I noticed you only bought mostly Air to Air and the Anti Radar Missiles. You really need the whole package to effectively use the Hammerheads and Makos. But if you're strapped for cash, I'm willing to barter for the rest of the armaments. Raw materials and the like, say. Or even as part of an overall trade agreement, for goods you might manufacture. :)

We are only interested in the air-to-air and anti-radar missiles for the moment solely for their applicability. The craft are currently being used for defensive purposes around key government buildings and military test sites, and our only problem has been those sneaky little spy planes :wink:

It was very fortunate that these craft were released at the time that they were, because our research is entering its final stages and requires one final piece of the puzzle before our full defensive capabilities are reached. So, within a few days we won't be "strapped for cash" but will rather have a great abundance of it. Hence, we're not exactly looking to buy further armaments...

We're looking to buy carriers. A specific amount, you might ask? Lots.

OOC: I noticed a post while waiting for your reply to my order of missiles, and the guy was selling frigates and carriers at dirt cheap prices...under $1 trillion for a carrier that could probably dwarf the state of Rhode Island. Far too outrageous, so I'm sticking with the JFK carrier for its realism and well-balanced power.

IC: So, if your nation would be so kind as to forward us information about procuring these JFK class carriers we've heard so much about, we would greatly appreciate it. The purchase of those would be followed by even more Hammerheads and Makos, and we know just the nation to turn to for arming them.

IC: I'm not sure if Sambizie would allow you to purchase/procure JFKs, you'd have to take that up with him.

OOC: With that huge carrier, it's not, really. The (US) Navy ran studies on "Project SEABASE" which was basically a huge platform capable of operating aircraft up to C-130 size and was designed with a speed of about 5 to 10 knots.

I'd also like to take a moment to suggest that you increase your buys of Hammerheads and Makos. If you check my numbers in my "Constitution" variant of the JFK, you'd notice that each Constitution operates a heap load more than what you've purchased. I understand you only want it for defense, but if you're going to build a "full" space military arm, you'd need more to make it effective. (I'd actually buy more anyway and literally bury them just in case more are needed, which is what I'm doing to older aircraft and tanks).

We plan to buy many more of Hammerheads and Makos; our plan was to order the carriers and necessary fighters/bombers simultaneously. However, we'll contact Sambizie privately about that. For the time being, we shall make use of our purchased craft and attempt to ascertain their limits in regards to the situations we intend to employ them in. "One foot in the water before we dive in" would probably be the best way to figuratively illustrate our hesitation in ordering more craft so quickly. As for your invitation...we shall see what everything boils down to with the trade agreements over the JFK's. As of yet this has become a very interesting set of transactions, but we are welcome to accept the deeper implications of this venture.

It has been decided, after consideration of making the John F. Kennedy carriers available to the "public", the following:

1: JFKs will still only be sold to authorised nations (decided by myself and Sambizie)

2: The FIRST ship (if two or more are bought) will be free

3: Each ship will cost 50 billion normally, though for APTO members and allies (eg Western Asia or Omz222), each ship not including the first will be 25 billion

4: As of the time of writing, ships will come in batches of four (only four shipyards) and construction to delivery takes 3 to 4 real life days

The Dominion of Cho Gal is completing current diplomatic relations with Sambizie and will be a member of The Allied Powers as soon as final confirmation is received. In light of this diplomatic success and impending entry into APTO, Cho Gal would like to be the first on this string (unless others make a request before we complete the preparation of this message) to purchase JFK class carriers. With the authorization of Adejaani and Sambizie, Cho Gal would like to place an order for 4 JFK carriers. As we have virtually become members of APTO, the total should come to $75 billion. The funds will be wired immediately to Adejaani. After we are settled into the region, which should take no more than 2 RL days, we will also place an order to stock these cruisers with Hammerheads and Makos (armed with missiles provided by Adejaani or other APTO members involved in the project).

----Greater Israel News Agency (GINA): Military Technology Desk----
>>>>Industry News Report:"Hammerhead Group" Joint Manufacturers’ Commission reports: Hammerhead-adapted 'TARPS' units. Modern technologies improve system.<<<<

8/21/2003 1750 LST (RLT)
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---"THARPS" UNITS READY FOR USE---
El Op; Rafael, Inc., and GIAI complete adaptation/upgrade of TARPS pods. Expected to be a great boon to the operation of the craft; expanded role seen as new market. A completely modular system.

The Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (Hammerhead JMC) announced today that RAFAEL, Inc. (stock symbol: RFLI); El Op (stock symbol: ELOP); and Greater Israel Aircraft Industries (stock symbol: GIAI), have completed the creation of a "TARPS" pod tailored for the SA-43 Hammerhead system.

The THARPS (Tactical Hammerhead Airborne Reconnaissance Pod System), as JMC officials are calling it, is designed to fit seamlessly into the current Hammerhead and/or Mako systems. Developed at the behest of Adejaani, which helped develop many space-capable missiles for the S-43 Endo/Exo line of craft, this system is expected to fill the roles laid out by that nation's planners.

Using a synthetic aperture primary imaging system and a Multispectral Imaging component as well as a modified FLIR-type unit, the THARPS is much superior to the old TARPS unit and its enhanced intelligence gathering capabilities are exactly what is necessary for the THARPS's mission profile.

The THARPS can be integrated into any Hammerhead system that has an XWM-111 or Internal Bomb Bay and it simply takes over the area used for the XWM-111, using the current control system connections. The system extends to slightly beyond the normal bottom of the craft (about 4 1/2 inches, or 11.25cm) but that is mostly to allow the forward-looking systems to visualize target areas.

To relay the information to friendly forces, the images collected by the THARPS system are either stored on an on-board High Capacity Memory Storage (HCMS) System (for later up-loading) or they can be directly transmitted to friendly units for review, providing almost real-time reconnaissance abilities.

Pilots who are to fly the mission only need to have a 40 minute lecture on the use of the system and the controls are now integrated into the eTaPE Sub-Commission’s "Universal Trans-Atmospheric Virtual Training System" (UTATS). System engineers and maintenance crews are going to require some training so the Hammerhead JMC has already arranged to provide weekend meeting on the maintenance of the system, from basic problem fixes up to major system overhauls.

The units, as now produced, cost $2.5-4.2 million a unit (including software patch) but they can be used on any of the S-43 Family of Vehicles (S-43 FOV). These units are expected to be sold at between 4 and 6 million dollars (suggested retail value).

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Other News from the Hammerhead JMC
Additional developments in PDE usage

As mentioned previously, PDEs would be an ideal booster and propulsion unit for a supersonic cruise missile...and the Hammerhead JMC has pursued that possibility.

So far, missile test units (using current cruise missile platforms) have provided a great insight into the use of PDEs as analysis has shown that the inclusion of PDEs in hybrid cruise missile engines can boost normally high-subsomic missiles to supersonic speeds as the PDEs take over some of the burden, allowing the primary engine's power to lift the missiles to their limits (testing was intentionally limited to prevent break-ups of the airframes, which were never designed to survive such velocities). At the same time, these tests have demonstrated the ability of PDEs to improve ranges dramatically.

While the use of PDE systems is limited to atmospheric situations, the inclusion of such weapons in the Hammerhead-type craft armaments promises to boost the atmospheric interdiction powers of the line significantly.

OOC: Ask and ye shall receive.

BTW, Adej, are you sure that you want to make a "2-for-1 deal" with something that costs 50bil? I can understand "11 for 10" but that's a lot.

BTW, Adej, are you sure that you want to make a "2-for-1 deal" with something that costs 50bil? I can understand "11 for 10" but that's a lot.

I don't really know yet. As I keep saying, prices aren't really my strong suit. If you can come up with a better pricing alternative, I'd go for it..... *Shrugs*

The Dominion of Cho Gal is completing current diplomatic relations with Sambizie and will be a member of The Allied Powers as soon as final confirmation is received. In light of this diplomatic success and impending entry into APTO, Cho Gal would like to be the first on this string (unless others make a request before we complete the preparation of this message) to purchase JFK class carriers. With the authorization of Adejaani and Sambizie, Cho Gal would like to place an order for 4 JFK carriers. As we have virtually become members of APTO, the total should come to $75 billion. The funds will be wired immediately to Adejaani. After we are settled into the region, which should take no more than 2 RL days, we will also place an order to stock these cruisers with Hammerheads and Makos (armed with missiles provided by Adejaani or other APTO members involved in the project).

Your order has been noted. We shall inform you and finalise arrangements very soon. Thank you for your cooperation.

Using a synthetic aperture primary imaging system and a Multispectral Imaging component as well as a modified FLIR-type unit, the THARPS is much superior to the old TARPS unit and its enhanced intelligence gathering capabilities are exactly what is necessary for the THARPS's mission profile.


OOC: Heh heh heh...he said "unit"...sorry, I couldn't resist the allusion to Beavis & Butthead... :oops:

IC: The system does sound really good though, so who would we be looking to for the manufacturing of these units? Cho Gal is moving into The Allied Powers momentarily, and with a manufacturing sector running far below maximum output we wouldn't mind handling the production of these units. Let us know if our services are requested.

In conjunction with the Kingdom of Illior, the Republic of Adejaani will now be able to increase rates of production very greatly. As such, Illior engineers and technicians will be aiding in the construction of John F. Kennedy class carriers. With the massive amounts of resources, personnel and capacity pouring in, the ships can be fully built in two (RL) days!

As such, the following schedule has been created (note: PCU stands for "Pre Commissioning Unit" and all dates are for NS dates):

PCU-1 Completed- already delivered to Adejaani (as ANS Constitution)
PCU-2 Completed- already delivered to Adejaani (as ANS Constellation)
PCU-3 Under construction- to be delivered to Sambizie (delivery 23rd)
PCU-4 Under construction- to be delivered to Sambizie (delivery 23rd)
PCU-5 Under construction- to be delivered to Sambizie (delivery 23rd)
PCU-6 Ordered- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 23rd to 25th)
PCU-7 Ordered- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 23rd to 25th)
PCU-8 Ordered- to be delivered to Illior (construction 23rd to 25th)
PCU-9 Ordered- to be delivered to Illior (construction 23rd to 25th)
PCU-10 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-11 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-12 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-13 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)

i know it seems out rageous that i can produce 1 every 2 days but illior had a job market crash in the private sector so many people work at factories or the space station.

i know it seems out rageous that i can produce 1 every 2 days but illior had a job market crash in the private sector so many people work at factories or the space station.

Actually, Illior, I wanted to ask. How do you want your JFKs outfitted? Do you just want the "baseline" (to specs) JFK or the "Constitution" subclass, which I improved upon?

Cho Gal, same question to you. JFK or Constitution subclass?

You need to check a little bit back in the thread (probably page 8) and tell me, so my Engineers can do it properly.

1 consitution and 1 normal.
230TH POST YEAH! LETS GET FUNKY!!
i'm a little bit tooo happy hehehehe

We would like the following changes made...your subclass had many positive changes, but the ones that we did not want done are listed at the end. This list is directly from the specifications you gave for the Constitution.

We WOULD like:

1: The large and vulnerable LIDAR dome has been replaced with large phased radar arrays mounted into the sides of the hull. As such, the entire dome is removed.

2: Revision of crew arrangements, as well as slightly improved automation has changed the crew complement to:
• Approximately 900 Navy personnel (responsible for the maintenance and operation of the vessel itself)
• Approximately 1100 Air Force personnel (pilots, technicians and ground crew for the Air Wing)
• Approximately 300 Marine Corps personnel (three companies plus a Headquarters unit)

These are the "base" figures. In the event of wartime, the number of Air Force personnel are estimated to roughly increase by 50% (to augment the larger Air Wing) and roughly 300% for the Marine Corps personnel (a stripped down Battalion).

4: A single forward superfiring (namely no guidance, it fires where the ship points) Gauss cannon is mounted on the upper side of the hull. Designed primarly to fire unguided 30 inch projectiles for planetary bombardment.

5: Six forward superfiring torpedo tubes have been included, to launch the XGM-86A "Clubber" anti ship missile

6. The rest of the design is essentially unchanged, though the "Constitution" subclass is expected to carry a slightly changed Air Wing of:

• 144x SA-43 Hammerhead
• 96x SB-43 Mako
• 12x SA-43 Hammerhead (with reconnaisance equipment)
• 12x Electronic Warfare aircraft
• 12x Early Warning And Control aircraft
• 48x ISSCV

However, we would NOT like the following modification made:

3: The 72 torpedo launchers have been removed, mostly replaced with lightweight launchers to fire the XAIM-9A Sidewinder-S (Space version Sidewinder).

This goes for all 4 of our ordered carriers.

Just to verify...I would like mine of the Constitution Class also.

OOC: Adejaani, Have you come up with a price for them yet? I thought you mentioned 40 or 50...keep in mind that the ISSAPC's are 40...just so you can gauge the amount :lol:

EDIT: Cho Gal glad to see you made it. :lol:

Western Might would like to buy 4 JFKs. as we are rebuilding of Space Defence Force after we lost over 250 ships. We wish the JFK's to be bear as we will equipt the with our own weaponry. Though we will still pay the full 50 billion each.

Western Might would like to buy 4 JFKs. as we are rebuilding of Space Defence Force after we lost over 250 ships. We wish the JFK's to be bear as we will equipt the with our own weaponry. Though we will still pay the full 50 billion each.

Western Might: Appriciate your interest, when they go on sale they will be listed here: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62892&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Stay tuned..lol

Which reminds me, Adejaani...do you wan't me to place these on the sales thread as "Coming Soon" now...or do you wan't to waite a bit.

Illior: Acknowledged. PCU-8 will be a Constitution type, PCU-9 a JFK type.

Cho Gal: Acknowledged. PCU- 10 through 13 will be of Constitution type except for Sidewinder-S launchers (original torpedo tubes will be installed).

Sambizie: Acknowledged. Got your Constitution type down ages ago. And look up or back a page or two. I said each ship is 50 BILLION normally. :roll: (With various discounts etc). Oh and YEAH they're for sale! (list the baseline JFK stats, then the various Constitution "options/upgrades"). And also the various weapons, putting the Clubber in here, everything else except the Harpoon in the Hammerhead thread. I mean, thirteen ships either completed, building or on order! :D

EDIT: Sambz, please have a note somewhere that the Air Wing is NOT included as part of the purchase and they have to buy it separately. :wink: Send them to the Hammerhead thread. :P

Western Might: Your order has been received, you shall be notified if the order has been approved or not.

OOC: Samb, I'll present a saleable write-up for the THARP units (heh, units :wink: ) soon. Adej, consider the first batches to be directed directly towards you...since they're not an entire craft they can be made relatively cheaply and in fairly large numbers.

OOC: Samb, I'll present a saleable write-up for the THARP units (heh, units :wink: ) soon. Adej, consider the first batches to be directed directly towards you...since they're not an entire craft they can be made relatively cheaply and in fairly large numbers.

Sounds good WA :wink:
Man this project got BIG..huh?

OOC: Sure did...it's a lot to create an entire line of aircraft types!

OOC: Sure did...it's a lot to create an entire line of aircraft types!

OOC: Sure does...BTW thanks for the help again.
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PLEASE NOTE: When ordering, please deliver half the cost (as advised when order confirmed) and half upon delivery. It is "hoped" that you have your own crew and various government/military dignitaries for a brief commissioning ceremony in our yards. The added benefit is, if any problems are found while undergoing shakedown, they can be repaired for free (but once you properly take control, such fixes of problems would have to be paid for).

ALSO. Purchasing a JFK/Constitution requires you to not use them offensively against any member of The Allied Powers or its allies.

Western might: Your order for JFK's (or did you want the Constitution variant?) has been noted and slated for construction as PCU-14 through to 17. As you are not a member of the APTO or an ally, the cost (including the "free" one) total would be 150 billion. Once you confirm what sort, we will accept 75 billion in "down payment" and the last 75 upon readiness for delivery. Due to the backlog of orders, construction will occur the 27th to the 29th.

Omz222: PCU-20 and 21 have been set aside and your order for two Constitution class carriers have been noted. Since you are an ally, the cost to you is 25 billion (first ship is free). 12 in advance, 13 on delivery. Due to the backlog of orders, construction will occur the 30th to the 1st.

Western Asia: I thank you for your recon pods. You are a good friend and I am hereby "giving" you PCU-22 (Constitution class) and will be available to you by the 3rd (due to the massive backlog!)

OOC: I appreciate the offer, but for now I'm refraining from taking on anything significantly devoted to space (though I might call on you for one a good bit later on...I'll see on the 3rd :D ).

EDIT: BTW, How many units did you want again?

OOC: I appreciate the offer, but for now I'm refraining from taking on anything significantly devoted to space (though I might call on you for one a good bit later on...I'll see on the 3rd :D ).

EDIT: BTW, How many units did you want again?

If you ever want a JFK/Constitution, just yell and I'll more than gladly recompense you. :D

Well.....

Since the recon pods are for ANY S-43..... I've had to redesign the Air Wing. I'll have to inform Sambizie and everyone of the changes.....

The added capabilities, usually "bolt on" in nature has allowed a very streamlined Air Wing.

The new "recommended" Air Wing for the Constitution class is:

• 168x SA-43 Hammerhead (Fighter)
• 96x SB-32 Mako (Bomber)
• 16x SEA-43 Howler (Electronic Warfare)
• 48x ISSCV (Mobility Lifter)

In addition, because of the modular nature of these systems, they can be assigned to the appropriate system with minor rework to the parent airframe hardware and software:

24x Cargo pods for the ISSCV
24x Troop pods for the ISSCV
24x AWACS pods for the ISSCV
24x THARPS pods for the S-43

This is what the Republic of Adejaani will HAVE, but operators can mix and match their Air Wings depending on mission.

Getting back to the point at hand.

Western Asia, I will need, eventually..... 192 THARPS pods. I'm going to be operating six Constitutions eventually, plus about 24 planetside aircraft would carry the pods. I'd need to buy some Howlers (about 120) from you, though, I don't have any factory facilities to build them.

My good friend Sambizie. PCU 3, 4 and 5, your three Constitution class carriers are ready. Please send your crews to pick them up. The price, I think is 30 billion, after APTO discount (sorry, I didn't mention that earlier :oops: ).

My good friend Sambizie. PCU 3, 4 and 5, your three Constitution class carriers are ready. Please send your crews to pick them up. The price, I think is 30 billion, after APTO discount (sorry, I didn't mention that earlier :oops: ).

*Money wired*

We will be sending crews throughout the day to take command of the vessels. The 3 SVCN's will be comissioned:
SVN-2828
SVN-2829
SVN-2830
We we hold short ceromony at your facility before they depart. Thank you once again. We will be sending crews from earth and also some transfers from 2 Roland Class Destroyers.
M. Uganda

Fantastic! We thank you for..... Choosing to buy our product! *L*

Once Sambizie's ships are out of the docks, PCU-6 and 7 (Adejaani) and PCU-8 and 9 (Illior) will begin construction. Expect delivery date: 25th.

PCU-6 has already been earmarked for delivery with the name "ANS United States", hull number SCVA-3; while PCU-7 will be named "ANS Philadelphia", SCVA-4.

Oh, Sambizie, when you've got time, I updated the "recommended" Air Wing list (scroll up). Also, note on the Constitution specs that they can choose not to modify to that option.

Wow, so many people need my input. :roll:

Western Might: Your order of four unarmed baseline JFKs has been confirmed, as has your "deposit".

Western Asia: Acknowledged. I'll build them for you as well (I've got Aerospace factories for creating atmospheric equipment and the upgrade to have it produce the THARPs as well. I'll match you at 60 pods per RL day.

Sambizie: As for my munitions, consider the supply essentially "unlimited". Go sell as many as you wish. BUT, please remember the XGM-86A "Clubber" is only for use on the JFK/Constitution.

Now. The anti ship missile for the S-43 line will be coming very shortly.

The Dominion of Cho Gal would like to place a large order for various craft and weapons to stock the carriers we are awaiting:

(672) SA-43 Hammerhead (Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine): $45.696 billion
(336) SB-43 Mako (Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine): $24.528 billion
(48 ) ISSAPC: $2.4 billion
(48 ) ISSCV: $0.480 billion
(1500) XAIM-54 Arrow: $150 million
(1500) XGM-65 Maverick: $75 million
(2100) XAIM-120A SAMRAAM: $210 million
(2100) XAIM-9 Sidewinder: $147 million

Also the Dominion of Cho Gal has two questions for manufacturers involved in this project:

1) Where can we purchase modules to convert standard Hammerheads into reconnaissance Hammerheads?

2) What is the status of modifications and preparation of the XGM-84 A Harpoon-S?

Finally, Cho Gal will send high-ranking military officials and a skeleton crew for the commissioning ceremony and departure from the yards on the 27th.

EDIT: The 8 followed by the ) in the number of ISSAPC's was turned into an emoticon :oops: .

Cho Gal: The following ordered items are currently being filled:

(672) SA-43 Hammerhead (Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine): $45.696 billion
(336) SB-43 Mako (Special Conventional/Ramjet/Scramjet engine): $24.528 billion
(48 ) ISSAPC: $2.4 billion
(48 ) ISSCV: $0.480 billion

Expect the order to be completed by Tuesday (RL).

As for the missiles, I do not hold that part of the contract. I'm sure Adejaani will fill the order soon.

:::1) Where can we purchase modules to convert standard Hammerheads into reconnaissance Hammerheads?

Wester Asia is currently finalizing these systems. I will post them on the Sales Thread when they are completed with specs. and unit cost.

:::2) What is the status of modifications and preparation of the XGM-84 A Harpoon-S?

Again, this may be better answered by Adejaani.

Thank you for your purchase again.

Very good...the total for the craft, $73.104 billion, will be wired to you immediately. The expected completion date is perfect as these craft will be loaded onto the JFK carriers Cho Gal ordered, and those will be commissioned on Wednesday. Thus, we even have a little margin for error in case something goes awry with the arrivals/loading procedures.

We will await Adejaani's reply to our order and question about the Harpoon missiles. We are also in the midst of a lucrative business agreement over an item which may be very helpful in keeping the JFKs in our region combat-ready at all times. More on that as confirmation of that order draws nearer.

OOC: I've been working on the THARPS specs now for a bit...it's a lot more technical than the other systems but it deserves it. Expect it tonight or later (not tomorrow, when I won't be home the whole day). Price is now $6m/unit (Adejaani will receive his for the manufacturing cost of about $3.6m, current production rate is 60/month at one factory...I shouldn't need more than that).

Adejaani the 75 billion is now being wired. We wish for the Carriers not to be armed. As this will save us tie when we equipt our own weapons on them. But for theconstruction we wish the to be the JFK standard.

bump for customers to samb and adejaani

Wow, so many people need my input. :roll:

Western Might: Your order of four unarmed baseline JFKs has been confirmed, as has your "deposit".

Western Asia: Acknowledged. I'll build them for you as well (I've got Aerospace factories for creating atmospheric equipment and the upgrade to have it produce the THARPs as well. I'll match you at 60 pods per RL day.

Sambizie: As for my munitions, consider the supply essentially "unlimited". Go sell as many as you wish. BUT, please remember the XGM-86A "Clubber" is only for use on the JFK/Constitution.

Now. The anti ship missile for the S-43 line will be coming very shortly.

This was posted last night during the clock reset, so it went to the top :?

To all of our valued customers. The Hammerhead capable anti ship missile is nearly complete. A full report will be available very soon. (As in after I've done my assignments).

XAIM-54 "Arrow"

Declassified report by:
Admiral Nathan "Ebony" Black, Adejaani Republic Navy
Commander, Adejaani Republic Space Corps.

It has been some time since the Space Corps received its first two Constitution class carriers. Despite the fact that no "real world" scenarios have required their use, all the wargame exercises have proved the worth of every single weapons system in service. However, the problem has been so far to do with the anti ship missiles.

The XGM-86A "Clubber" was everything it was designed to be. Fast and powerful, but massive. As was always feared and proven so, the "Clubber" was too big for the Hammerheads and Makos. Indeed, the loss of two fine pilots trying to launch with the "Clubber" only highlighted this. As an interesting side note, adapting an ISSCV cargo pod to contain a single "Clubber" missile worked. In theory. In practice, the ISSCV, already big and vulnerable as it was, would have been shot down long before it was in a position to launch.

On the other end of the spectrum, the next biggest weapon, the XAIM-120 "SAMRAAM" was too small. Oh, high speed, good sized warhead. But against capital ship armor, couldn't do it. Maybe if EVERY "SAMRAAM" was fired against a capital ship, it might, but that's not the solution.

That was a near impossible task. A weapon, with a big enough penetrator and warhead, yet small enough to make it dangerous to the enemy, not the pilots that fly it.

The result is the XAIM-54 "Arrow". http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/aim-54-980304-n-1717n-002-s.jpg

An adaptation of the legendary AIM-54 "Phoenix" missile. At triple the size, with the same liquid paraffin engine as the "SAMRAAM" and the titanium core penetrator on the "Clubber", the "Arrow" combines the maneuverability of the "SAMRAAM" with a smaller, but very effective end result as the "Clubber".

The ONLY platform cleared for launching the "Arrow" is the SB-43 Mako and it can carry TWO "Arrow" missiles plus a handful of "SAMRAAM" and "Sidewinder-S" for self defense.

The XAIM-54 "Arrow" is already in production. Unit replacement cost is 100,000 per missile.

hey adejaani, tomorrow 3 JFKs will be completed and will be shipped to you for changes. please send my 2 SVCNs to my spaace station orbitting the AP.

hey adejaani, tomorrow 3 JFKs will be completed and will be shipped to you for changes. please send my 2 SVCNs to my spaace station orbitting the AP.

Whoa, um. :shock: I asked you to be my sub contractor, I never said you could build them. Sambizie only gave ME that right..... :? I'm afraid you weren't meant to build them yourself, I can't take or acknowledge you have them..... But you'll still have to two that are coming.....

oooohhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry, i guess i didn't understand you in the first place. oh well. 3 for you tommorow anyway. no use in wasting materialss :oops: :oops: :oops: i'll stop after these. sorry :oops:

oooohhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry, i guess i didn't understand you in the first place. oh well. 3 for you tommorow anyway. no use in wasting materialss :oops: :oops: :oops: i'll stop after these. sorry :oops:

If Sambizie wants, you can low rate production too..... Sambizie? *Pokes*

But for now, sorry. You'll get your two by tomorrow and the next time my yards are free is the 1st.....

oooohhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry, i guess i didn't understand you in the first place. oh well. 3 for you tommorow anyway. no use in wasting materialss :oops: :oops: :oops: i'll stop after these. sorry :oops:

If Sambizie wants, you can low rate production too..... Sambizie? *Pokes*

But for now, sorry. You'll get your two by tomorrow and the next time my yards are free is the 1st.....

Adejaani, are you making both the JFK's(Baseline) and the "Constitution Class?"

oooohhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry, i guess i didn't understand you in the first place. oh well. 3 for you tommorow anyway. no use in wasting materialss :oops: :oops: :oops: i'll stop after these. sorry :oops:

If Sambizie wants, you can low rate production too..... Sambizie? *Pokes*

But for now, sorry. You'll get your two by tomorrow and the next time my yards are free is the 1st.....

Adejaani, are you making both the JFK's(Baseline) and the "Constitution Class?"

I'm making both. Essentially the same thing. Some people do want JFKs, as Illior wants one..... *Shrugs* They can if they want, the JFK is a proven design.

Well if Illior want's to make JFK's that's fine, as some people wish to modify them their selves. So I would say 1-2 per day for a few days just to see how they sell.

Well if Illior want's to make JFK's that's fine, as some people wish to modify them their selves. So I would say 1-2 per day for a few days just to see how they sell.

With Illior making two JFKs/Constitutions.... The new production schedule would look like this.....

PCU-6 In construction- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 23rd to 25th) Notes: Named ANS United States SCVB-3
PCU-7 In construction- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 23rd to 25th) Notes: Named ANS Philadelphia SCVB-4
PCU-8 In construction- to be delivered to Illior (construction 23rd to 25th) Notes: Baseline JFK
PCU-9 In construction- to be delivered to Illior (construction 23rd to 25th)
PCU-10 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-11 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-12 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-13 Ordered- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-14 Ordered- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-15 Ordered- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-16 Ordered- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 27th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-17 Ordered- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 27th to 29th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-18 Ordered- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 27th to 29th) Notes: Named ANS Chesapeke SCVB-5
PCU-19 Ordered- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 27th to 29th) Notes: Named ANS President SCVB-6
PCU-20 Ordered- to be delivered to Omz222 (construction 27th to 29th)
PCU-21 Ordered- to be delivered to Omz222 (construction 27th to 29th)

New construction would begin on the 29th.

i can make a total of 3 every 4 day because my space station can make 1 every 2 days and my factories can make 1 every 4 days
Adejaani, i still can sub contract to you too.

COMING SOON:

TELLUS Colony Ship
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MacArther Class SCVN
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Eisenhower Class SCVN
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Okay, with Illior constructing FOUR ships in addition to my four, the schedule now is:

PCU-6 Completed- delivered to Adejaani Notes: Named ANS United States SCVB-3
PCU-7 Completed- delivered to Adejaani Notes: Named ANS Philadelphia SCVB-4
PCU-8 Completed- delivered to Illior Notes: Baseline JFK
PCU-9 Completed- delivered to Illior
PCU-10 In construction- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-11 In construction- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-12 In construction- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-13 In construction- to be delivered to Cho Gal (construction 25th to 27th)
PCU-14 In construction- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-15 In construction- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-16 In construction- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-17 In construction- to be delivered to Western Might (construction 25th to 27th) Notes: No armaments fitted
PCU-18 In construction- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 27th to 29th) Notes: Named ANS Chesapeke SCVB-5
PCU-19 Ordered- to be delivered to Adejaani (construction 27th to 29th) Notes: Named ANS President SCVB-6
PCU-20 Ordered- to be delivered to Omz222 (construction 27th to 29th)
PCU-21 Ordered- to be delivered to Omz222 (construction 27th to 29th)

And, Illior, if you want to make your own ships, do so on the 29th. Your first two carriers are DONE.

thanks.

But, I'm still primary manufacturer. Advise me in advance what you're going to build and to who. I shouldn't have a problem with it, but it's still my show.... :roll:

OOC: Two words: Boo-Yah. THARPS WRITE-UP.

Samb, Please post this in the Sales thread in place of the previous description, thanks. Sorry for delay.

THARPS (Tactical Hammerhead Airborne Reconnaissance Pod System)
BASICS
Make/Model (Designation): Hammerhead Joint Manufacturers’ Commission (RAFAEL, Inc.; El Op; and Greater Israel Aircraft Industries) THARPS.

Manufacturers/Developers: Commission (RAFAEL, Inc.; El Op; and Greater Israel Aircraft Industries)

Production Capacity: 60 units/day per factory (1 major dedicated assembly plants in WA, 3 subsystem production plants in WA. 1 major plant in Adejaani with associated subsystem plants).

Price Per Unit (suggested retail value): $6 million/unit (incl. software and materials).

General Description:
The THARPS (Tactical Hammerhead Airborne Reconnaissance Pod System) is designed to integrate seamlessly into the current S-43 Series of Vehicles while providing greatly enhanced reconnaissance capabilities to the commanders of S-43-based forces.

Features
- Maintains commonality with existing Command, Control, Communications, Computers, and Intelligence (C4I) architectures;
- Completely compatible with the Elbit Systems LTD HUD system;
- Can simultaneously carrying electro-optical (EO), Multispectral Imaging (MI), and synthetic aperture radar (SAR) payloads;
- Capable of both satellite communications link (SATCOM) and surveillance and control data link (SCDL) communications. A laser beam pulse communicator is also included for emergency usage. Data can be transferred to theater designated exploitation sites utilizing standard formats through existing communications mediums. Selected frames of imagery and reports can be broadcast electronically by voice or data. The operational commander will determine the preferred means of dissemination and distribution.


Means of Action:
The THARPS is actually a collection of several different component subsystems, each of which provides a different and important capability to the functionality of the THARPS in its missions. There is a suite of Sensory Devices to collect infrared, visible, multispectral, and synthetic aperture radar (SAR) digital imagery at medium and high altitudes.

A Suite of Sensory Devices
NOTE: Produced by El Op
- An Electro-Optical (EO) sensor payload, (with an integrated advanced resolution FLIR (Forward Looking Radar) package);
- A Multispectral Imaging system (UV, Visible, and IR radiation wavelengths);
- A Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) package.

--Electro-Optical Sensor: The ElOp CA-295--
The Recon/Optical [ROI] CA-295 camera performs a range of high-altitude, long-range missions while operating at standoff ranges beyond 70 nmi. The CA-295 digital camera simultaneously produces both infrared and visible spectrum images, providing the user with day/night, near real-time data for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR). The CA-295 incorporates ElOp's patented digital framing array and step frame technology to provide wide area coverage stereo imagery with both high resolution and unparalleled geometric fidelity. The IR section of the system employs the latest FLIR high resolution technology to allow for high-detail night recordings.

Designed to operate within the rigorous environment of a transatmospheric fighter, this modular, dual-spectral-band camera comprises five major assemblies.
- The stabilized imaging unit (SIU) contains both visible and IR imaging modules, long-range precision optics, common camera and stabilization electronics, and power supplies. - The image processing unit (IPU) contains the system controller electronics, I/O interfaces, and a scalable set of image processing boards for formatting and processing both IR and visible image data.
- The controlled image transmission unit (CITU), controls the transmission of data to friendly forces and, upon activation by the cockpit controls, can use either a High-bandwith (to satellite) or line of sight (LOS) transmission by standard, or even laser-burst, transmitters. This unit also controls the encoding systems, which can be adjusted to cover coding systems employed by different alliances and groups.
- The power conversion unit (PCU) connects to the aircraft power system and supplies filtered, switched power to the SIU and IPU.
- The Baseline Power Support Unit (BPSU) connects to the SIU, CITU, and IPU to support higher-energy applications and to limit drain on the aircraft’s systems.

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--Multispectral Imager: --

Grabbed almost directly from Western Asia’s spy satellites, the MI processes a wide variety of light wavelengths to create a high-detail image of targets directly beneath the carrying unit. Thanks to the long-range power of the satellite imager, this system can be used on targets parallel to the aircraft’s flight path by simply having the craft fly at an angle. Much of the exact capabilities of the satellites are restricted but a 20in resolution is provided for this, unsecured, system.

--Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) Package: —

The SAR package incorporates several operating modes and data processing schemes to enhance the capabilities of the THARPS. The two general system modes are WAS/MTI and SAR/FTI.

Radar operating modes:
=Wide area surveillance
=Fixed target indication
=Synthetic aperture radar
=Moving target indicator
=Target classification



-WAS/MTI-
Wide Area Surveillance and Moving Target Indicator (WAS/MTI) are the radar's default operating modes. WAS/MTI is designed to detect, locate and identify slow-moving targets. This is similar to what is included on the standard JSTARS platform but it cannot differentiate between tracked vs. wheeled vehicles as the JSTARS can. By focusing on smaller terrain areas, the radar image can be enhanced for increased resolution display. This high resolution is used to define moving targets and provide combat units with accurate information for attack planning.

-SAR/FTI-
Synthetic Aperture Radar/Fixed Target Indicator (SAR/FTI) produces a photographic-like image or map of selected geographic regions. SAR data maps contain precise locations of critical non-moving targets such as bridges, harbors, airports, buildings, or stopped vehicles.

The FTI display is available while operating in the SAR mode to identify and locate fixed targets within the SAR area. The SAR and FTI capability used in conjunction with MTI and MTI history display allows post-attack assessments to be made by onboard or ground operators following a weapon attack on hostile targets.

Like Joint STARS, the THARPS can operate in virtually any weather, on-line, in real-time. Unlike the Joint STARS, ground-based or otherwise centralized processing stations will have to take care of image processing and analysis duties.


The SAR portion of the THARPS includes the Enhanced Synthetic Aperture Radar (ESAR) and Inverse Synthetic Aperture Radar (ISAR) upgrades for the JSTARS system.

These upgrades allow for target classification and identification through a six-fold enhancement of previoujs SAR resolution with ESAR and the ability to image moving targets and perform mensuration with ISAR. The upgrade also increases both range and azimuth resolution.

ESAR and ISAR will contribute to more accurate targeting data and supports potential growth to Automatic Target Recognition. ISAR also supports maritime potential by using the translational motion of the targets. The primary applications support Theater Missile Defense (TMD) identification of high value mobile targets such as SCUD Transporter-Erector-Launchers(TELs). This capability also increases targeting capability, location and identification accuracy, and the potential for fratricide reduction.


The Automatic Target Recognition (ATR) provides ground-based system operators with automated surface target recognition/identification. This enhances operator efficiency in high density situations and exponentially increases current capabilities for surface target identification. ATR provides higher mission crew situational awareness and increases support to battle management and attack support. In support of TMD, the system will be able to locate, track, and identify missile Transporter Erector Launchers (TELS) vehicles upon cueing from off-board sensors/sources. The ATR concept is based upon algorithms using processed radar data (Enhanced Synthetic Aperture Radar [ESAR] and Inverse SAR ) and applying Radar Cross Section (RCS) or templating techniques to classify/identify ground and maritime targets. ATR is a computational technique that compares the SAR imagery with imagery templates of high value targets to quickly identify and locate those targets in the image. This requires a detailed data base of potential target image templates and the processing capability to do comparisons with sensor data.

These enhancements enable more effective targeting against Time Critical Targets (TCTs). There are two primary goals: (1) demonstrate the robustness of using Hi-Resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) based Automatic Target Recognition (ATR) technology for improved identification of Time Critical Targets (TCTs) and; (2) demonstrate the effectiveness of using Hi-Resolution Moving Target Indication (MTI) sorting of targets in a scan mode to pick out target areas of interest in a non-cooperative mode.


[i]System Communication Methods
System is equipped with surveillance and control data link (SCDL) for transmission to mobile ground stations and Satellite communications link (SATCOM). The system is capable of both direct line of sight communications with the ground station by a common data link or beyond line of sight through Ku band SATCOM, direct line of sight capability, good support up to 220 megabits per second (although this is not currently supported) and 50 megabits per second by a Ku band SATCOM.

A laser beam pulse (LBP) communicator is also included for emergency or for secure, short-range data transmission. When several units employ LBP in a line, a daisy-chain system can be used to transmit data securely (although with relatively low transmission speeds) to a ground station. Is impervious to most EW interference.

With these systems, data can be transferred to theater designated exploitation sites utilizing standard formats through existing communications mediums. Selected frames of imagery and reports can be broadcast electronically by voice or data. The operational commander will determine the preferred means of dissemination and distribution.


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Installation and (Force) Integration Issues
Installation
The THARPS can be integrated into any S-43 system that has an Internal Payload Bay (IPB) available.

With the (or one of the) XWM-111 Rotary, Multi-Use Weapons Mounts (R-MUWM) removed from the IPB, the THARPS unit control and sensory relay cables are plugged into the same slots that the unit control and sensory relay cables from the XWM-111 would be connected to. This system is fully compatible with the HUD display system currently in place.

Then, the THARPS is elevated (using a Mobile Payload Management System (MPMS) of the same model used for the XWM-111) into the now-empty IPB. The THARPS will be "captured" by the S-43 Series Craft’s Payload Grasping Claws (PGCs). The system extends to slightly beyond the normal bottom of the craft (about 4 1/2 inches, or 11.25cm) but this is to allow the forward-looking systems to visualize target areas. The THARPS’s edges are designed to form a smooth interface with the underbody of the craft surrounding the IPB.

Once a software-patch is installed in the S-43 Series Craft’s computer system (or activated, if the software is already installed), the controls for the THARPS will be under the pilot’s control. The pod interfaces with the S-43 cockpit Electronic Warfare Management System (EWMS).

A skilled crew should be capable of completing this task in 15minutes time (into the equipment area to ready to fly), including settings and full system checks.

Force Integration of the THARPS
To relay the information to friendly forces, the images collected by the THARPS system are either stored on an on-board High Capacity Memory Storage (HCMS) System (for later up-loading) or they are directly transmitted to friendly units for review, providing almost real-time reconnaissance abilities. To transmit the images, a high-bandwith transmission array is included in the THARP. The images are encoded for transfer and are then encoded by public-key coding (or other tactical coding system), then they are sent. The pilot can, at any time, shift the modes of image collection (stored vs. sent) as well as other factors concerning the transmission of the imagery (changing the encoding method/system).

The pilot can also completely control which sensors are being used and he can even focus on one particular area, which will then be thoroughly and repeatedly scanned by all THARPS sensory devices.


Primary Functions: To provide "real-time" reconnaissance capabilities to the S-43 line of transatmospheric manned combat craft in support of Joint Force actions. The Tactical Hammerhead Airborne Reconnaissance Pod System (THARPS) provides a responsive "under-the-weather" reconnaissance capability to support intelligence and targeting requirements of military, multinational, and other government agency users. It provides a dedicated, on-demand, day/under-the-weather, selective aspect, literal imagery collection capability. It fills the high-threat, under-the-weather niche that cannot be accomplished by existing collectors such as space systems, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, and high-altitude unarmed planes such as the U-2.

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PERFORMANCE

Systems energy profile: The THARPS unit is provided with its own power systems, but in order to maintain full working capacity for extended periods of time, energy must be siphoned off of the S-43 Craft’s energy distribution system.

Mission Profile:
THARPS tasks include:
- Collecting vital intelligence information by the use of high-power and high-field of view imaging,
- Integrate into any and all capable S-43 Craft seamlessly and without error under stated working conditions (and without preexisting technical complications),
- To locate and identify time-dependant hostile targets so they can be quickly neutralized by friendly aircraft,

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CONTROL
The THARPS is controlled by the pilot (or, in SB/SAE-43 craft by either the pilot or the specialist/co-pilot) through his HUD and other system interfaces. Images are collected when the controlling crewmember activates the system by use of a finger-activated toggle on the control sticks. The HUD allows the controller to literally see what the THARPS is focused on and even to re-focus the system on another target.

The flight control computer interface allows the pilot to highly customize the operation of the THARPS unit for special missions or sites of interest as well as to control the memory and transmission issues associated with the operation of the THARPS.

Pilot and Support Crew Training
Pilots who are to fly the mission only need to have a 40 minute lecture on the use of the system and the controls are now integrated into the eTaPE Sub-Commission’s "Universal Trans-Atmospheric Virtual Training System" (UTATS).

System engineers and maintenance crews are going to require some training so the Hammerhead JMC has already arranged to provide weekend meeting on the maintenance of the system, from basic problem fixes up to major system overhauls.

OOC: SWEET :lol: :!:

I'll add them now.

So the four carriers will be allowed to be picked up on the 28th?

ooc: mutters about finding time to do it during study hall.

So the four carriers will be allowed to be picked up on the 28th?

ooc: mutters about finding time to do it during study hall.

TODAY. :shock: Wow.

Western Might, Cho Gal, submit the rest of the funds and get your ships outta my docks so I can continue construction! :lol: It has been a pleasure doing business with you!

The funds have been wired immediately, and the crews and military officials will be sent to retrieve the ships.

OOC: Sorry for the delay, major influx of work these last few days that have torn me away from NationStates.

OOC: Is perfectly all right, Cho Gal. I'm not sure if you got the post on the "buy" thread, but you can have pretty much all the munitions you want, except for the Clubber, SAMRAAM, Sidewinder-S and Arrow, since those are pretty much made "by hand". Enjoy your four ships.

the remaining amout of the payment has been wired.

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Cho Gal, Western Might, all users of JFKs/Constitutions, could I please ask for some sort of name and hull number? It's not for any real reason except my personal records. :)

The ships will be cinmissioned FRS Bounty, FRS Hood, FRS Yamato and FRS Essex. Hull unbers will be SCVN 1-4 with a X after each number standing fro the new types of carriers being added to the fleet.
So...
FRS Bounty SCVN 1X
FRS Hood SCVN 2X
FRS Yamato SCVN 3X
FRS Essex SCVN 4X

CGV Executor (PCC-001)
CGV Interdictor (PCC-002)
CGV Victory (PCC-003)
CGV Sovereign (PCC-004)

Due to the events of: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66214&highlight=

To keep up with the times, we are beginning Research and Development into:

• Some sorta fast transport for carrying supplies and munitions
• Second generation shipboard weapons (less dependent on "throw away" missiles)
• Low level deflector shielding
• More advanced detection sensors than LIDAR/Radar

In short, while the equipment listed in this thread is a good First Generation, in the real world, we are fairly low on the technology ladder. So let us begin and go up!

OOC: Wow, talk about history. :roll: I decided to redredge this out since this is what it was for. :roll:

IC: Official report filed by Doctor Marianne Brooks, head of Adejaani Aerospace Inc. PCU Imitora

Okay. Sambizie has completed his design work on the PCU Imitora. A new Matter/Anti Matter drive has been installed, so it's good for propulsion and a lot more power. But unfortunately, the tiny pulse lasers that's serving as our primary armament is no good. Well, good for a first generation, inadequate for a second generation ship.

What is needed is a full weapons suite for energy weapons only. This is to ensure maximum combat flexibility, should replenishment of munition stocks become unavailable. Furthermore, the weapons suite should be powerful enough to go "toe to toe" with enemy Cruisers and Battlecruisers and should have similar abilities in that area.

As an outgrowth, should such an appropriate suite be completed, a smaller scale version would be required for the little Sambizie class Destroyer Escorts to bring them up to par.....

ooc: The tread lives!

IC: Western Might is ar current biulding a new prototype Trans Arc Cannon (Don't ask about the name I pull it out of my ass.) Several designs have been summited by leading weapon makes in western might. Our goverment would be glad to share all information in the testing and later porduction of the TAC weapon. What we wish to know is if you want a turrent or onboard ship weapon system.

OOC: I know. How Excitement. :roll:

IC: The weapons are designed to be used aboard a Cruiser type hull. As such, it is envisioned a sort of heavy powered forwarding superfiring (along the centerline) weapon. However, smaller turreted versions (popout, mounted flush with the hull), banks, or arrays may be accepted. Please submit proposals as well as specifications and descriptions of this "Trans Arc Cannon".

The four leading prodotypes designs are as follows.

GY-48 TAC
type On board weapons system.
Rate of fire: low One shot from each cannon every 8.65 seconds
Numbers of cannons per ship.
Cruiser 3-4 depends on hull design and power source
Battle cruiser 5-7 depends on the hull desing and power source
Damage (esimated) At close range mod to heavy. At acces of 3000km the punch of TAC decreases and at 5500km is uneffective. This is the weapons esimated max range.
This prodotype draws its power from its own pwere reactors, and not draining the ships power. At thi sphase this weapon, plans to be the most hard hitting of them all. But on the other hand the added power cores give Type:a added risk in combat."
GY-46 TAC
Type Large turrent based weapon system.
Rate of fire: average One salvo from a turrent every 5.26(either two or three barreled turrents.
Munber per ship.
NA on any ship, exept on Base stations Defence rock platfroms of and a planet.
Damage from this weapon would seem to be a constant to almost it's maxium range, 7500km. This weapon would be far more accurate but has 1/2 the hitting power of the GY-48. Thse weapon do draw power from were ever there are and if enough power core are disabled the weapon will become useless.
GY-52 TAC
Type: Small ship based turrent
Rate of fire: High 1 turrent salvo every .75 seconds.( either 2,3 or 4 barreled turrents.)
Number of weapons per ship
Destroyer 11-22
cruiser 20-31
Battle Cruiser 28 40
Damage: Thse weapons are fireing at lighter combat ships, fighters bombers, missles and the like. When enough are fired and a large target than target would take damage. Thse turrents draw power from the ships powwer core.
GY-50 TAC
Type Onboard weapons system.
Rate of fire: above average one shot every 3.42 second
Number of weapons per ship destroyer 3-4
Cruiser 5-7
Battle cruiser 5-10
This weapon has the range of the and the basic hitting power(11% less of a decrease) of the GY-46. Ships may add more power cores or not, if the ship has no other main weapon systems. Thsi is also the System the WM SDF is looking into for testing.

To Western Might. Construction of the second ship of the Imitora class, PCU Amanda Ormsby has been stepped up. We would like to order four of each TAC variant for testing and development.

Further, we also require something larger and more powerful than the GY-48. More firepower and more range is required. Size is not really a matter (though it has to be sized within reason).

Please tell us how much for the prototype weapons so we can ship money.

The four current modles are being shiped as we spaek. An I do belive we might have somthing with a little more kick the the GY-48

:shock: "Its Alive"

Allow me to introduce to you the PPW-7, the first functioning plasma based weapons system from Imitora. The PPW-7, or Plasma Projecting Weapon, model 7, fires a condensed beam plasma energy that, with slight adjustments, may be over three miles wide and 240,976 miles long, in an unrestrictive, exo atmospheric setting. Teh ionized gas expulsion can rip the hulls of enemy ships apart liek a red hot poker through a can, and can all but burn a hole right through any energy shielding based on an enemy ship. At the current point of time, the PPW-7 plasma 'beam' if you will burns at about 10^8 (K), with a particle density of 10^33 (in charged particles per meter square). This is approxametly the same density and heat of the core of a good sized star. We are currently working on developing a slightly less dense, but hotter burning burst. Due to the power required to fire the PPW-7, the rate of fire is one good sustained shot per 2 minutes, but ion that sustained shot (approx 15 seconds), a good gunner command can wipe out an entire fleet of on comming vessles. Before you worry about size, we would like to alert you to the fact taht these weapons will be mounted on out upcomming line of Halcyon class cruisers.

For a little less of an extremity, we recomend the KVD-90 Anti ship laser. The same version that is employes aboard our Northampton line. The laser is strong enough to puncture most hulls easily, and in borad side attacks can destroy most medium shield ships. The cannons are mounted on a turret which allows rotation of 0 to 90 degrees vertically (for the lower mounted cannons 0 to -90), and a full 180 degrees front or back. On the Northampton line, four of the weapons are mounted, however, changes can be made to fit a specific set up. They run off the same style of battery, yet a seperat unit, as the PPW-7, whcih actually allows for sustained (up to 15 minutes) of rapid fire.

OOC: Just to explain a few things. I'm going to view all the weapons proposals, so don't fret. I'd probably do a mixture too, so you can all "profit".

That "huge gun" I asked for (Immy, you can propose one too), is for the tentative New Genoa class Battlecarrier. It's basically like a Mini Death Star, if you can think of it that way. A ship built around a gun. But the gun is so massive, the ship is also massive, which makes it very vulnerable.

IC:

Western Might: Four of each variant. Meaning sixteen total modules will be needed. What's the cost?

Imitora: Excellent! We would like to order four PPW-7 and four KVD-90 for testing. It already seems the KVD-90 is a near perfect fit as a main battery for the smaller ships, as the Sambizie class is about the same size as your Northamptons. Please advise a cost and we shall wire it in exchange.

How many of each do you want, and I'll tack you on the list for the new plasma weapons we are developing. As of yet, we've all but removed all standard warheads, as we have near mastered plasma explosive devices, meaning that all our missles will be plamsa explosives.

Immy: Four each of everything. BUT, the criteria is that it all has to be energy based. We're doing so to allow for more flexibility in case there's no resupply.

However, we shall consider any ammunition dependent weapons for feasibility as secondary weapons.

OK, due to the higly expiremental nature of all weapons, the total cost of all teh systems is 3.1 bil.

3.1 billion wired to Imitora.

In other developments, two new Imitora hulls were developed, as further testbeds for the new technologies. PCU Dallas and PCU Jackson will be expected to begin testing shortly.

Further, plans have begun for the new New Genoa class Battlecarrier. A mammoth ship designed to "one salvo, one kill" opponents, as well as a massive fighter bay capable of carrying fighters in the thousands. Additional information will be made known as advances continue.

Western Might: Four of each variant. Meaning sixteen total modules will be needed. What's the cost?



Total cost of 3.7 billion

8) The NEXUS Corporation will bid 2,000,000,000 for a core of these craft thats is 700 of them at least we thank you for your complience....

NR 012

I want one

Imitora,

I would like to purchase the "prints" for the PPW-7. Our intentions are strictly for manufacturing for use by the Sambizie. We will not produce to sell per say. In addition to the prints, we ask for 3-5 working models. We will pay, as you know, in full when confirmed.

We feel that this weapon can be converted to a planetary strike cannon or fitted as extra weaponary for the Sambizie Defence Station. We will ship the weapons to our system ourselves. Just let me know when and where I can pick them up if you agree to the above request.

Resectfully,
M. Uganda