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05-07-2003, 08:54
Recent activitys in the universe has prompted me to add gravitywell generators and hyperspace inhibiters as well as many otherstatic and mobile defence systems withen a 250,000 Km globe of Arorra and Chimera.
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/gravwell_generator1.gif
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/taiidan/hyperspace_inhibitor1.gif

Arrora shipyards
Shipyards not for sale

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/images/concept_6.jpg

Chimera training Station
Also not for sale

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/tanis_base1.gif

Cargo transports

Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/u12_1.gif
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/u11_4.gif

Cost: 2400 RUs
Build Time: 200 Days
Maneuverability: very low
Acceleration: 40 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 200 m/s^2
Coverage: 100%
Mass: 129,000 tons

These large, carrier-sized vessels are capable of moving increadable amounts of personal or bulk cargo making them slow moving. There internal bay can be ajusted to any number of setings including a smallsize colonie ship. to Compensate for there high vulunablity they have been give a compleat set of top of the line point defence and a small landing bay.This craft is capable of atmosphieric take off and landings.

Weapons: Range: Fire Time: Fire Length
8 Pulsar Beam Turrets 7,500 m 2.0 s 2.0 s

Open space cargo barge

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/v_transport_frigate1.gif

Cost: 1900 RUs
Build Time: 120 Days
Maneuverability: very low
Acceleration: 50 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 210 m/s^2
Coverage: 50%
Mass: 115,000 tons

This craft is like the Bulk cargo craft in size and purpose how ever it's open space deck allows for the moving of largesized objects such as station componets or ships. After a visiting nation's delagate spoted one of thease ships moving a command ships upper ore canster by it's self he requested a few of them for station construction.

Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/resource_collector2.gif


Build Cost: 650 RUs
Build Time: 60 days
Maneuverability: Medium
Acceleration: 150 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 325 m/s^2
Mass: 40,000 tons



Taiidan Resource Collector

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/taiidan/resource_collector3.gif
exta contaner
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/container1.gif

Build Cost: 650 RUs
Exta contaner 300 RU's
Build Time: 60 day
Exta Contaner 15 days
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 150 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 525 m/s^2
Mass: 40,000 tons

Long haul desgin.

Support craft


Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate

Cost: 425 RUs
Build Time: 65 days
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 100 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 450 m/s^2
Coverage: 15%
Mass: 12,500 tons

Max Fighters: 10
Max Corvettes: 4

Re-fuel and Re-arm Fighters

Weapons: Range: Fire Time:
1 Medium Projectile Cannon Turret 2,500 m 0.25 s

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/support_frigate3.gif



Hiigaran Support Frigate

Cost: 525 RUs
Build Time: 80 days
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 215 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 570 m/s^2
Coverage: 20%
Mass: 15,700 tons

Max Fighters: 15
Max Corvettes: 8

Re-fuel and Re-arm Fighters

Weapons: Range: Fire Time:
2 Medium Projectile Cannon Turret 3,200 m 0.25 s


http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/support_frigate10.gif

Somtaaw Repair Bot

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/somtaaw/repair_bots.gif

Class: Microship
Cost: 35 RUs Frigate class (8 bots)
70 Ru's Destroyer class (16 bots)
100 Ru's Battle cruiser and Carrier class (24 bots)
300 Ru's Command class (96 bots)
Build Time: 12 days
Maneuverability: Extream
Acceleration: 1,000 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 50 m/s^2
Mass: 1 q

Repair bots are used to repair and patch any hull breaches that may occour on any craft capable of holding them they are more of an upgrade then an acutal craft.

This can be applayed to most any ship including ships of other nations design.






Resource Class

Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hwcs/worker11.jpg


Cost: 500 RUs
Build Time: 45 days
Maneuverability: medium
Acceleration: 400 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 425 m/s^2
Mass: 5,200 tons

Works best in tight areas




Hiigaran Resource Collector

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/resourcer14.gif
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/resourcer11.gif

Cost: 425 RUs
Build Time: 30 days
Maneuverability: high
Acceleration: 400 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 425 m/s^2
Mass: 4,400 tons

Deep diging and astroide colony operations



Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug

Cost: 650 RUs
Build Time: 60 days
Maneuverability: low
Acceleration: 75 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 398 m/s^2
Afterburnner: 650 m/s^2
Coverage: 3%
Mass: 50,000 tons

This craft is used to push larger astroides out of high speed debre fields making it safer for resorcer craft to harvist them.

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hwcs/ramfr3.jpg




Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/kushan/resource_controller1.gif

Class: Non-Combat
Build Cost: 680 RUs
Build Time: 65 s
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 75 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 300 m/s^2
Mass: 79,000 tons

1 Resocerer Dock
6 Fighter docks
4 Corvet docks




Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/somtaaw/processor1.gif

Class: Resource
Cost: 1,100 RUs
Build Time: 110 s
Support Req.: 13 SUs
Maneuverability: low
Acceleration: 75 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 250 m/s^2
Coverage: 80%
Mass: 89,000 tons

4 Worker docks
2 Resorcerer Docks

Weapons: Range: Fire Time:
4 Medium Mass Drive Turrets 5,000 m 0.4 s



Hiigaran Mobile Refinery

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/controller9.gif

Class: Non-Combat
Build Cost: 500 RUs
Build Time: 50 s
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 100 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 325 m/s^2
Mass: 55,200 tons


Works in tandum with Hiigaran Resource Collector

Construction class

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Hiigaran moble construction bay

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/shipyard11.gif
http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/hw2/shipyard08.gif

Cost: 5000 RU
Build Time: 700 Days
Maneuverability: Next to nothing
Acceleration: 5 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 190 m/s^2
Coverage: 15%
Mass: 109,000 tons

This craft is a general construction for large space projects.

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Mining Command Class

Somtaaw "Explorer" Deep Space Mining Vessel

Cost: 8,000 RU
Build Time: 1,000 Days
Maneuverability: very low
Acceleration: 10 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 240 m/s^2
Coverage: 70%
Mass: 613,000 tons

Weapons: Range: Fire Time:
6 Large Mass Driver Turrets 6,000 m 0.25 s

Resorce unloading points
6 Workers
8 Hiigaran Resource Collectors

Internal docking for 60 craft of fighter size

Upper ore canaster has room for 1 million tones.
Lower ore canaster has room for half a million tons.

http://well-of-souls.com/homeworld/hws/somtaaw/command_ship6.gif
05-07-2003, 08:57
How much for the Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber plans?
05-07-2003, 09:00
Can i buy plans for the Mk.5 intercepter?
05-07-2003, 09:02
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?
05-07-2003, 09:06
Price is listed, 85 RUs roughly 20 mill (may change)
05-07-2003, 09:07
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
05-07-2003, 09:09
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?
05-07-2003, 09:14
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?

55 Ru's so 12,941,176US
05-07-2003, 09:16
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?

55 Ru's so 12,941,176US
What? I cant read number unclearly said please state price again.
05-07-2003, 09:18
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?

55 Ru's so 12,941,176US
What? I cant read number unclearly said please state price again.

12 million 941 thousand and 176 dollars. United States Dollars
05-07-2003, 09:19
never mind yuo change it i will buy
1,000 Mk.5 intercepters
~money wired~
05-07-2003, 09:21
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?

55 Ru's so 12,941,176US
What? I cant read number unclearly said please state price again.

12 million 941 thousand and 176 dollars. United States Dollars
I know he edit it. It was some thing else before
05-07-2003, 09:22
and 1 Mk.5 intercepter alng with plans say about $8 billion sound good?

I never sell plans.
Damn all well how much for 1 Mk.5?

55 Ru's so 12,941,176US
What? I cant read number unclearly said please state price again.

12 million 941 thousand and 176 dollars. United States Dollars
I know he edit it. It was some thing else before

okay, my bad
05-07-2003, 09:22
Well that will be quite a work out for Arrora. Delivery will be in 2 months (NS) time. Would you like to send some instructers to our faciltys?
Tisonica
05-07-2003, 09:22
Errr, I have no problem with Arcel myself (thats a huge lie) but due to international hate. Selling to Arcel=bad idea, and why so cheap? He was willing to pay a huge sum of money, karpe kanum!
05-07-2003, 09:27
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

Plus that was for the plans.
And I dont dyscrmanite to any one I have pryer RP with .
05-07-2003, 09:28
Well that will be quite a work out for Arrora. Delivery will be in 2 months (NS) time. Would you like to send some instructers to our faciltys?
Yes that would be nice dont want to try and figure out how to fly it and take 2 years 1 question can it go into space? If so can it do it by it self or does iy need launcher/space carrier?
05-07-2003, 09:28
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

I'm charging 3 billion for one of mine
Tisonica
05-07-2003, 09:30
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

Over 200 million, they are space fighters. And karpe kanum is sieze the pig...
Tisonica
05-07-2003, 09:32
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

I'm charging 3 billion for one of mine

I do belive you are selling capital ships (big ones like millenium falcon or one of those big triangle federation startships) though, still at an extremely low pirce. But Wazzu seems to think they are made out of cardboard :P so that seems about right if you are.
05-07-2003, 09:32
Well that will be quite a work out for Arrora. Delivery will be in 2 months (NS) time. Would you like to send some instructers to our faciltys?
Yes that would be nice dont want to try and figure out how to fly it and take 2 years 1 question can it go into space? If so can it do it by it self or does iy need launcher/space carrier?

Due to it's range it will need to be transported to it Area of opperation. Arrora is in this systems Astroied Belt.

If more people agree with you Tisonica I will change it as I have stated the RU is A pain.
05-07-2003, 09:34
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

I'm charging 3 billion for one of mine

I do belive you are selling capital ships (big ones like millenium falcon or one of those big triangle federation startships) though, still at an extremely low pirce.

if your talking to me then I'm selling a fighter, my destroyer isn't for sale. and when it does it will be like 20 billion. maybe less depends on the market
05-07-2003, 09:35
I will be selling Other ships as well but I need to ajust my cost model.
05-07-2003, 09:35
Well that will be quite a work out for Arrora. Delivery will be in 2 months (NS) time. Would you like to send some instructers to our faciltys?
Yes that would be nice dont want to try and figure out how to fly it and take 2 years 1 question can it go into space? If so can it do it by it self or does iy need launcher/space carrier?

Due to it's range it will need to be transported to it Area of opperation. Arrora is in this systems Astroied Belt.

If more people agree with you Tisonica I will change it as I have stated the RU is A pain.
Is there a way to increase its Max. distance?
05-07-2003, 09:41
We could redesigne it with the newer self sustaning Fusion torch drives but the cost woud sky rocket or you could just limmit it's top speed. Half the speed twice the distance.

lookining in to new pricing model. Add a zero curret desgine, RU listed stands.
05-07-2003, 09:47
What do you mean by sky roket? Do you mean into the billions? If so dont we will have them with out any fusion stuff just regular.
05-07-2003, 09:57
The current Drive system is Fusion. but it requires a reaction mass that burns up. Our larger craft Frig and up have the same type but they can mataine there fuel indefinatly. Our Newer Fighters also have this system. The cost would skyrocket because we dont have any designe of drives that fit the Mk5's. In other words it would be a custome job. Do rember the range is 14,000Km at top speed.
05-07-2003, 10:00
The current Drive system is Fusion. but it requires a reaction mass that burns up. Our larger craft Frig and up have the same type but they can mataine there fuel indefinatly. Our Newer Fighters also have this system. The cost would skyrocket because we dont have any designe of drives that fit the Mk5's. In other words it would be a custome job. Do rember the range is 14,000Km at top speed.
Ok then dont put it in then just the way they are is fine.
05-07-2003, 10:05
Oh I never answered you on these Yes it goes in space and no it can take off on it's own. I'll send a ship for your instructers.

I am going to bed now I'll answere any and all questions when I get back on.
05-07-2003, 22:41
Bump for a new time zone
05-07-2003, 22:58
<ooc>

Rock! Homeworld & HW2 fighters!

</ooc>

No thanks, we're building our own. (although they're also from HW2...)
05-07-2003, 23:03
Your not the first and I am sure your not that last.
Hugin
05-07-2003, 23:03
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Stupid sister... leaving her nation logged in!

That was me.

</ooc>
05-07-2003, 23:56
Update Frig class now up
06-07-2003, 03:24
Homeworld Rocks! :D :D
06-07-2003, 04:39
Where are you getting theee ships from?
06-07-2003, 08:43
Fallow the links young one
06-07-2003, 09:24
Somtaaw check your TGs i sent you one.
06-07-2003, 09:32
Ok responded.
06-07-2003, 09:34
Ok responded.
I did the same to your respond. Now you have to respond again.
Wazzu
06-07-2003, 09:44
Whats that sease the money?

Well what would you charge for a first gen fighter.

I'm charging 3 billion for one of mine

I do belive you are selling capital ships (big ones like millenium falcon or one of those big triangle federation startships) though, still at an extremely low pirce. But Wazzu seems to think they are made out of cardboard :P so that seems about right if you are.

OOC: Well, unlike most people selling tons of spaceships (and fleets), Somtaaw at least has the population and industrial base to make these ships of something other then Cardboard...though I would not call them "top of the line." They are probably made of iron and steel with fairly low tech (sorry Somtaaw). Why?

1) Somtaaw's economy is low but ship-production is high...much like the Soviet Union. The ships (tanks, assault rifles, etc.) are not the best, but are pretty cheap (so numerous).

2) No nation in its right mind would sell its best equipment on the open market...though some might go to very close allies.

3) Iron and components for steel can easily be found in asteroids. Advanced composits, elastics, ceramics, and other materials, as well as electronics, optics, and similar all need to be "imported" from Earth (or Titan) because many of the materials are not available from asteroids or the moon...and that is EXPENSIVE!!! Lifting a few parts out of Earth's gravity might not be so bad, but lifting enough for fleets of capital ships is not easy, and not within the budget of Somtaaw (unless Somtaawians are starving to death and the population declining).

So, I again apologize to Somtaaw, but these ships are definately not top of the line. Then again, they are better then the (probably quite literally) cardboard ships being sold by many April+ nations (and even many January and December nations who sacrifice quality for quantity).
06-07-2003, 09:59
No offence taken Wazzu. Besides Who said I was selling the good stuff. :wink:
11-07-2003, 05:16
Bumped for the new ships
11-07-2003, 05:22
Somtaaw on google whene i was looking for Pic.s of ion cannon i came across and friget like ship and on the web page it hade your name on it at the top. Did tou make that web page puting on of your ships on it with its specs?
Sketch
11-07-2003, 06:06
The Dominion of Sketch wishes to purchase the plans for all of your ships (this is only for force replenishment and replacement parts) to build own our own. In return we offer whatever sum of money you wish to charge (within reasonability), a very favorable trade agreement on any exotic materials you may need, and assitance on improving the existing designs.

[OOC] this should solve the issues of having "bad designs" or not enough exotic materials to build top of the line ships :wink:
11-07-2003, 07:14
Somtaaw on google whene i was looking for Pic.s of ion cannon i came across and friget like ship and on the web page it hade your name on it at the top. Did tou make that web page puting on of your ships on it with its specs?

Short responce No.

Long responce no with an explantion
My ships come from a game called "Homeworld" , "Homeworld Cataclysm" and "Homeworld 2" and my nation is named after one of the Kithed from said games.
11-07-2003, 07:19
The Dominion of Sketch wishes to purchase the plans for all of your ships (this is only for force replenishment and replacement parts) to build own our own. In return we offer whatever sum of money you wish to charge (within reasonability), a very favorable trade agreement on any exotic materials you may need, and assitance on improving the existing designs.

[OOC] this should solve the issues of having "bad designs" or not enough exotic materials to build top of the line ships :wink:

I have plenty of exotic Materials and I dont sell plans of any of my ships how ever if you do need replacement parts for any of our ships we will sell plans to certen parts of ships. Name the ship and the parts and we can work out a deal.
Gurguvungunit
12-07-2003, 18:30
1 destroyer plz and 3 ion frigate
imported_Skepticism
12-07-2003, 18:34
These prices are ridiculously low. A genuine space warship would cost not billions but TRILLIONS of US dollars, even if it was relatively small and didn't have much weaponry. Selling combat spaceships for little more than real-life warships is so unrealistic it isn't even funny. Please consider raising your prices by a factor of something like 100 to 1000.
Lunatic Retard Robots
12-07-2003, 18:35
I love you!!!!!!!!! Heheheheheeh. (Not literally) Can we be allies? (Somtaaw) We have some of the best engineers and astrophysicists this side of Ursa Minor.
Lunatic Retard Robots
12-07-2003, 18:36
These prices are ridiculously low. A genuine space warship would cost not billions but TRILLIONS of US dollars, even if it was relatively small and didn't have much weaponry. Selling combat spaceships for little more than real-life warships is so unrealistic it isn't even funny. Please consider raising your prices by a factor of something like 100 to 1000.

Be quiet you!!!!! If you have the tech for spaceships then they should be very cheap.
12-07-2003, 20:56
Gurguvungunit what design of Ion Frigate and Destroyer.

Skepticism do you even know the conversion rate of the RU?

Lunatic Retard Robots TG me on the allies offer.
Lunatic Retard Robots
12-07-2003, 21:03
Gurguvungunit what design of Ion Frigate and Destroyer.

Skepticism do you even know the conversion rate of the RU?

Lunatic Retard Robots TG me on the allies offer.

K.
15-07-2003, 07:36
Bumped for LRR"s craft
15-07-2003, 10:26
And a bump for the new time zone.
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-07-2003, 17:13
Somtaaw, the starchasers could build some of your orders to take pressure off aurora.

http://screens.relicnews.com/homeworld/images/DemonX002.jpg

A carrier being launched from the Caital Ship bay 3 on the Starchaser 2 complex. (Capital ships are built outside, frigates, fighters, corvettes are build and housed inside.) You can also see several freighters and a member of the exotic/patrol fleet in the backround and pheriphary.
16-07-2003, 01:00
If any orders for the Mothershpclass comes in you can have them.
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-07-2003, 01:27
It will be our pleasure.
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-07-2003, 01:54
BUMPO!!!!!!!!
Gurguvungunit
16-07-2003, 04:46
Gurguvungunit what design of Ion Frigate and Destroyer.

Skepticism do you even know the conversion rate of the RU?

Lunatic Retard Robots TG me on the allies offer.
Firelance and Revelation. *money wired* :shock: where did my cash reserves go!!!
16-07-2003, 06:22
We'll get right on them as soon as we can clear the bay of ViZion's order. Man those SSFTD drives are huge.
17-07-2003, 04:20
What is the info on the "Kushan Probe"?
What is the job of that kind of probe.?
Can i re use it, time of life?
Sensor,speed,range stats?
Is it esily detected by others?

Annyway my order list:
numbers orderd - craft - cost per item -

10x Kushan "Arrow" Scout 35 RUs/1
10x Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor 55 RUs/1
10x Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber 85 RUs/1
10x Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter 75 RUs/1
=2500 RUs

3x Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV 150 RU/1
1x Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1
1x Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate 650 RUs/1
1x Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate 425 RUs/1
1x Kushan "Puppeteer" Drone Frigate 800 RUs/1
1x Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug 650 RUs/
1x Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate 700 RUs/1
1x Somtaaw "Hive" Advanced Drone Frigate 575 RUs/1
=4825 RUs

1x "Revelation" Destroyer 1,350 RUs/1
1x "Avatar" Heavy Cruiser 3,700 RUs/1
1x "Deacon" Destroyer 3,000 RUs/1
1x "Archangel" Dreadnought 6,800 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Destroyer 5,000 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Battlecruiser 11,800 RUs/1
=31650 RUs

2x Kushan "Imperator" Carrier 2,000 RUs/1
1x Somtaaw "Shaman" Carrier 3400 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Carrier 3400 RUs/1
=10800 RUs

3x Super Acolyte 300 RUs
1x Kuun-Lan 8,000 RU/1
3x Kushan Salvage corvette 220 RUs/1
1x Kushan Heavy Corvette 240 RUs/1
1x Taiidan Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1
=10075 RUs

10x Kushan Probe 30 RUs/1
=300 RUs

Whole order= 60150 RUs no idea how mutch it is in other curencys.
If i noted the right prices and counted right.
I hawe no idea how mutch that is in other curencys.
Can i get a discount?

Can i "stage" my payments?
Like this:
25% now.
25% when the first ships is deliverd
25% when half the ships are being deliverd.
And the last 25% when the last fourth are being deliverd.
Is thath satisfactory ore shuld you whish a nother payment plan?

And the ships dont need to be rhushd. ;)
Dont listen to the whiners.
1.You arent in a grawity well and dont produce the ithems ore resorces there.
2.You are using mainly robot manufacturing to produce your crafts and resorces.
17-07-2003, 06:17
heh can i get a discount if i plege the folowing?
I wont sell them ore their plans.
I wont use them agasinst you.
And i wont distribute them to other nations.

Are you intresting in a minor aliance?

Can i get a discount if i let my ships help you produce orderd ships?
(when nothing else to do, i temporairly turn their production controle ower to you.)
17-07-2003, 10:25
You will have to direct any queations abought LLR's craft to him I just dysplay the info he gave me. As for your payment plan I have no problems with it.

As for a discount I am afrad I cant allow that, how ever I can give you the plans for the older disigns od fighters and vets. The Arrow, Blade, and the Thunderbolt, And all craft will be equiped with the new SSFT drives with no extra charge.

The charge is correct. Conversion brings it to 141,529,347,616.50 USD

As soon as the first payment of 35,382,336,904.12 is recived we can start on your order.

Now for crew training where and when would you like to do it?
Also what craft would you like to be compleated first?

Arrora is curently empty.
1/1 MS bay
10/10 Supercapship bays
100/100 Frig bays
1000/1000 fighter bays
17-07-2003, 12:46
Thank you. :)
First payment sent. :)

Do you want to be paid fore the old crafts plans?

How mutch dose the new SSFT drives improve the crafts?
Speed and wathewer else?

Start with the carriers.
plan so thath the fighters and drones are finiced about the same time as the first carrier.
And the last light/medium suport craft is finishd when the last carrier are done.
Then comes the mothership.
Can start on it before the last carrier are done if you like.
Then come the other heawy crafts.
you can start to build them at the same time as the last carrier is built.
Dose this seem good to you?

Hawe i forgotten annything?

I am a bit worried about hawing enuf crew when the big ships start to turn out in droves.

Can you train them?
Can you pic them upp?
We got some carriers and destroyers we can use to ship them if it is absolutly nessesery.
But it will be a bit crampt...
I wuld like to start training imediatly if it is all right with you?
What whil this cost?
And how manny people can you start to train and how manny do you think i shuld send so i hawe people ready when i recive the first carrier?

I hawe gatherd toghether a bunch of people ready to start training.

I got -some- people traind already fore my small fleet in the basic stuff, but nowhere near the numbers thath will shortly be requierd.

I wuld realy like some resorce gathering crafts if you got some fore sale too.
Ore if thath is not posible culd i order all repair/manufacturing crafts suplied with resorces?
I will pay fore it ofcorse.
Gurguvungunit
18-07-2003, 05:28
can I buy a Kuun Lan type ship, are the weapons customizeable? If so, siege gun, ion turrets and missile turrets. Now before anyone cries GODMOD, which I hope it isnt... this is Future Tech, meaning I wont use it on newbies or against armies, just other future tech users.
18-07-2003, 08:15
Thank you. :)
First payment sent. :)

Do you want to be paid fore the old crafts plans?

How mutch dose the new SSFT drives improve the crafts?
Speed and wathewer else?

Start with the carriers.
plan so thath the fighters and drones are finiced about the same time as the first carrier.
And the last light/medium suport craft is finishd when the last carrier are done.
Then comes the mothership.
Can start on it before the last carrier are done if you like.
Then come the other heawy crafts.
you can start to build them at the same time as the last carrier is built.
Dose this seem good to you?

Hawe i forgotten annything?

I am a bit worried about hawing enuf crew when the big ships start to turn out in droves.

Can you train them?
Can you pic them upp?
We got some carriers and destroyers we can use to ship them if it is absolutly nessesery.
But it will be a bit crampt...
I wuld like to start training imediatly if it is all right with you?
What whil this cost?
And how manny people can you start to train and how manny do you think i shuld send so i hawe people ready when i recive the first carrier?

I hawe gatherd toghether a bunch of people ready to start training.

I got -some- people traind already fore my small fleet in the basic stuff, but nowhere near the numbers thath will shortly be requierd.

I wuld realy like some resorce gathering crafts if you got some fore sale too.
Ore if thath is not posible culd i order all repair/manufacturing crafts suplied with resorces?
I will pay fore it ofcorse.

Ok first the older plans will be in the computer systems of any craft capable of construction of said craft, cost free. But only under two conditions first any craft you build are for your use only, second you do not try to copy said plans the systems is desgined not to allow copying of them.

Alright now the SSFT drives are also included in the cost of the ships.

Now when it comes to your not having enough crew that is not our problem, when it comes to picking up your crew that is no problem have them ready in 48 hours traiing will last for 6 months for fighter pilots, one year for all other craft.

This is also comped by us.

We will begin construction today.

Now as to the construction

Ship: Start time: Time to compleation:
Mothership Today 33 months 3 days to compleat.
Carrier 1 Today 9 months 3 days to compleat.
Carrier 2 Today 10 months 12 days to compleat.
Carrier 3 Today 11 months 5 days to compleat.
HBC 12 mo 7 months 0 days to compleat.
Hiig Destroyer 9 mo 4 months 15 days to compleat.
Dreadnought 11 mo 6 months 11 days to compleat.
Destroyer 1 9 mo 4 months 9 days to compleat.
Destroyer 2 9 mo 4 months 20 days to compleat.
Heavy Cruiser 12 mo 6 months 2 days to compleat.


All fighters and Utitlty craft will launch with the first Carrier.
18-07-2003, 08:17
can I buy a Kuun Lan type ship, are the weapons customizeable? If so, siege gun, ion turrets and missile turrets. Now before anyone cries GODMOD, which I hope it isnt... this is Future Tech, meaning I wont use it on newbies or against armies, just other future tech users.

LLR will have to take this order unless you are willing to hold off on your order for 33 and a half months.
18-07-2003, 10:39
Okay but i asket :How mutch dose the new SSFT drives improve the crafts? :?

Okay the personell is ready to be be pict upp today.
And we will hawe enuf personell to train dont worry about thath.
Just pick them upp. ;)

We will hawe to use our existing carriers and space navy personell fore the new carriers till the new traind personell are ready to take the seats:
Becuse of the 3 month gap between training and construction.
Can they hang around in your teritory fore added protektion, untill they hawe the new traind personell in place?
Ore wait to launch them untill the classes hawe graduated?
Can you do a quock re-training of our existing space navy personell?
Will thath take 12 months too, ore will it be quicker?

And okay no copying ore selling of crafts no problem there.

But can the mother ship produce carriers?
And if so cant the plans be down loded into them during their construction face?
I can upp load other blue prints into the comuters tho and down lowd and modefy my them?
Can i modefy the old crafts plans ore are they protected?

And the resorce qestion?
18-07-2003, 11:38
Yes the MS can build the larger ships No the plans will not be included.

The SSFT drives give the fighter craft as much range as there is air for the pilot in other words no refuel is required.

The last 3 months of training will be on board the ships kind of a hands on training.
They will be required to stay withen my controled space during the training.
Any refreshere classes are 2 months.

You can up load any plans in to the computers for constructuion, and you are able to change the built in plans to your likeing. The same goes for any of your ships, how ever should soming go wrong we will not be held acountable.

As for the Resorceer question which craft where you intersted in. there are three desgines. Avable.
Menelmacar
18-07-2003, 12:04
First: Somtaaw, I should say that the missile mini-factories we have been purchasing from you have been, without exception, performing in an exemplary fashion, and have done worlds of good for the staying power of our fleets in extended campaigns. That said, we're interested in additional contracts.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the various types of resourcer?

Also, how much for... oh, say, five hundred salvage corvettes?

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High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
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18-07-2003, 13:15
Yes the MS can build the larger ships No the plans will not be included.
Okay, meens i will hawe to purtchas carriers from you if i want them being able to make your included light crafts designs.
The SSFT drives give the fighter craft as much range as there is air for the pilot in other words no refuel is required.
cool, werry usefull.
But what if i were to use a droid insted of a live pilot?
The last 3 months of training will be on board the ships kind of a hands on training.
They will be required to stay withen my controled space during the training.
Any refreshere classes are 2 months.
Werry good.
The next batch of trainees are almost all alredy traind fore, and in, my space navy.
You can up load any plans in to the computers for constructuion, and you are able to change the built in plans to your likeing. The same goes for any of your ships, how ever should soming go wrong we will not be held acountable.
Totaly acceptable and understandable.
So long they are our falthy plans ore user error it shuldent be anny trouble ore complaint from my point.
And acidents -do- ofcorse happen.
We understand thath!
As for the Resorceer question which craft where you intersted in. there are three desgines. Avable.
Oh sorry. :oops:
Either we misst them, ore you updated the page and we misst that. :oops:

We just saw theese:

---Resource Class ---
-Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector -

Class: Resource
Build Cost: 650 RUs
Build Time: 60 days
Maneuverability: Medium
Acceleration: 150 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 325 m/s^2
Mass: 40,000 tons


-Taiidan Resource Collector -

Class: Resource
Build Cost: 650 RUs
Exta contaner 300 RU's
Build Time: 60 day
Exta Contaner 15 days
Maneuverability: Low
Acceleration: 150 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 525 m/s^2
Mass: 40,000 tons

Long haul desgin.

exta contaner


-Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector -

Class: Resource
Cost: 500 RUs
Build Time: 45 days
Maneuverability: medium
Acceleration: 400 m/s^2
Max Velocity: 425 m/s^2
Mass: 5,200 tons

Works best in tight areas


-Hiigaran Resource Collector -

*clasafied*

Deep diging operations

And hawe the same qeation as menelmacar.

We are able to guess this from the info tho.

The "Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector" seems to be a medium range colector with its lower max speed.
And its got medium manuverability so it can avoid bumping into asteroids more esily, and perhaps it helps in avoiding being destroid by hostiles too?

The "Taiidan Resource Collector" has low manuverability so it isent so good idea using it were there are a lot of asteroids ore stuff flying around.
But its got the best speed witch must be best used on long range colecting.

How does the extra "exta contaner" work?
Dose it carry around 2 contaners?
Ore -can- it carry/tow around a exta contaner?
Maby colect twize as mutch resorces before returning?
:?

The "Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector" has a werry good accel nice speed figures too, as whel as manuverability.
But it is werry small (5,200 tons) compaird with the others (40,000).
And vith the comment "Works best in tight areas" i guess it is best to use in thight fields of asteroids but not so far from a resorce depot ore some sutch as it cant store mutch ore/resorces in it.

Hawe i got things right?
Anny thing to ad to this analyse?

Anny chance of getting plans fore anny of them?
Otherwize i hawe to content my self in purtchasing them from you.

Ooc:it took a while to type. ;)
Lunatic Retard Robots
18-07-2003, 17:24
can I buy a Kuun Lan type ship, are the weapons customizeable? If so, siege gun, ion turrets and missile turrets. Now before anyone cries GODMOD, which I hope it isnt... this is Future Tech, meaning I wont use it on newbies or against armies, just other future tech users.

Exactly the intended use, unless you are old enough. Yes, the Kuun Lan has customizeable armerment. You can buy in with any number of weapon kits.
Gurguvungunit
18-07-2003, 18:56
can I buy a Kuun Lan type ship, are the weapons customizeable? If so, siege gun, ion turrets and missile turrets. Now before anyone cries GODMOD, which I hope it isnt... this is Future Tech, meaning I wont use it on newbies or against armies, just other future tech users.

LLR will have to take this order unless you are willing to hold off on your order for 33 and a half months.
Gulp... real months or NS months... (like three days) :)
Lunatic Retard Robots
18-07-2003, 18:59
Ok. Since I'm sellin the Kuun Lan I will build one for you. It will be ready out of our export stocks at about 11:00 AM GMT tomorrow morning.
18-07-2003, 23:47
Okay i will make an aditiopnal order:

3x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru/1
3x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru/1
3x extra container 300Ru/1
3x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru/1

All orderd=6300RU's

Same payment plan as last time?

Can start building them once the carriers are built.
19-07-2003, 09:50
First: Somtaaw, I should say that the missile mini-factories we have been purchasing from you have been, without exception, performing in an exemplary fashion, and have done worlds of good for the staying power of our fleets in extended campaigns. That said, we're interested in additional contracts.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the various types of resourcer?

Also, how much for... oh, say, five hundred salvage corvettes?

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
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Ah greetings, I am glad to hear that the Missiles systems are working nicely. I have been meaning to talk to you abought the New Torpedo system we have, all of our front line ships are using them. Also they have two settings the standard torpedo. and a multi-missile good for fighter clearing.

Now to you order. 500 of our Salvage vets. Well I see that you still have a copy of our older catalog. But yes we do still have them in fact I need to get on the marketing department to up date the store.

Lets say 150 Ru's for such a long term and might I say lovely customers.

As you might have already heard the diffrent types of resourcer craft the

"Providence" has a unique design that alows for quick Yah and pitch manuvers. Making it good in mid to high speed astroid fields.

The "Tai RC" is basiclly a space truck you can atach up to 3 contaners behind the Cab/contaner main unit. With little loss of speed how ever it turns like a brick making it best for low speed fields and as some crews call them Free range astroieds.

The worker is a hybred craft combinaing the speed and graple system of a salvage vet and the harvister system of a resorcer. they are best used in high densidy fields with eather carrier or Resorece controler craft the secon ships are not in the store yet.

The HRC is also for sale but info is not avable to me at this time. All I know is it is more like a deep diging craft posably for creating cavitys in astroides with out damaging there structure.

We will start on your order as soon as we recive 15% payment.
19-07-2003, 10:00
Ok now for Furry_wolf2001b

No I am not giving you the plans for the carriers. You will have to buy more frome me if you want more. (or take the ones you have bought from me already and take them a part peace by peace and try to make plans from that. Many have tryed none could get the blackboxes right.)

If you put a droid in it could go on untill somthing failed on the ship (IE a realy long long long time.)
How ever do thease droids need training/programing or will you people take care of that?

Your correct on your ideas abought the resorcers.
on the "Taii" think space truck.


You will have to buy the craft from me the "PDA" system in collecters are very sentive. ANd hard to reproduce there for valuable to us.

We will start on you new order as soon as there is room in arrora for them,and yes the same payment plan will be used.
19-07-2003, 15:00
Ok now for Furry_wolf2001b

No I am not giving you the plans for the carriers. You will have to buy more frome me if you want more. (or take the ones you have bought from me already and take them a part peace by peace and try to make plans from that. Many have tryed none could get the blackboxes right.)

If you put a droid in it could go on untill somthing failed on the ship (IE a realy long long long time.)
How ever do thease droids need training/programing or will you people take care of that?

Your correct on your ideas abought the resorcers.
on the "Taii" think space truck.


You will have to buy the craft from me the "PDA" system in collecters are very sentive. ANd hard to reproduce there for valuable to us.

We will start on you new order as soon as there is room in arrora for them,and yes the same payment plan will be used.
Okay perfectly fine...

The space "Taii truck" comes with a container when orderd alone right?
I mean atleast one container is included in the price fore the "Taii truck", right?


The "drone pilot" project is curently only in the werry erly prototype face.
Our scientist are trying out sewral ideas with our existing fighters.
So far some work better than others. :D ;)

Plus we hawent desided yet witch -kind- of droid/robot to use.
The most trouble we forsee is with the logic programming.
We want it smart enuf to read the scan data and take the apropriate action.
And able to fight a enemy pilot without being at a disadwantage.

It is not so hard to make a basic program fly the actual craft.
It is all the other bits thath a pilot can do that are giving some scientist headaces...

We hawent desided if a "Lerning"(is it the right word?) droid/robot is to be used ore a more programed unit is to be preferd instead.
Maby we will use some kind of hybrid ore maby use a mix with 2 types of droids.

And we are looking on already awailabe forign Droids/robots to see if they are usefull fore this role.
But it seems doubtfull we will find anything thath fits this role on the market.
Not fore the right prize anny way.
And we dont want to be limited by other designs, we want to be able to modify and upgrade them at will.
Help will be apreciated tho.

Say, are you intrested in purtchasing some of them when we hawe a design ready?

We are also wondering about the scout fighter sensors.
They are better than a regular fighter right?(stupid qestion i know)
Ore dose they need some kind of upgrade to get better sensors fore long range scanning/scouting.

Okay we guessd that we wuldent get the plans fore the colectors ore the carriers...
But we will just hawe to be content with thath...

Dosent mean we wont look and lern whath we can from them.
And Dismanteling the carriers arent our plans att all, but ofcorse some day if some carrier recives so mutch damage it is not deemd feciable ore economicaly, ore thacticaly (might be enemys nearby), wize to repair, then the remains will ofcorse be studied closely.
We doubt we will ba able to reverse engineer them tho.
So dont worry about that.


Um.. did you awnser the qestion of the offer of a aliance.
Maby just a trade aliance?

Er.. one other qestion.
How many fighters can be manufactud by the carriers at once?
Is it the same numbers as free fighter bays?
And if the fighters are launched are the bays free?
You see the advantage i point out?

If nothing else if am expecting losses i can begin building more fighters before the existing once are destroyd...
Ofcorse i still will need pilots tho.
But maby i culd use my droids in a emergency. ;)
19-07-2003, 15:13
Sigh.
Thath was me.
19-07-2003, 15:21
how much for one of those ship yards
AND WHAT THE HELL DOES BUMP MEAN
20-07-2003, 00:00
Yes the "Taii" comes with one conatner.

Were not intersted in any drone pilot systems we just had a very tragic experieance invloving a new ship design and drone systems. A firelance was sliced clean thru in 9 places when a shield drone we were testing formed it portions incorectly.

The scouts fighter sensors are indead better then the standard fighters equipment.

We are also developing a better sensor array that can pick up cloaked craft but the curent design is far to large for a fighters hull.

I did't not see you question abough an alliance, pleas TG on the info.

The first carrer design can build 2 fighters or 1 Vet at a time.
The second design can build 2 fighters and one vet or one frig at a time.
The third can build 4 fighters 2 vets or 2 frigs as a time.

The can hold the listed number of craft how ever vet bays can double as fighter bays but not the other way around. Vet bays can hold two fighters but only the cockpit of one can be reached. You can make as many fighters as you wish but sooner or later the crews will need to rest and systems will start to malfunction. You may want to look in to a form of auto pilot so that ships there is no room for can just be told to fallow a ship.


The shipyards are not for sale, and bump is just a way of moving a thread back to the first page with out saying any thing.
Lunatic Retard Robots
20-07-2003, 00:08
I'm not sure if this goes for Somtaaw's Arrora, but my Staarchaser Complexes will take your projects for a small services fee.
Menelmacar
20-07-2003, 00:14
First: Somtaaw, I should say that the missile mini-factories we have been purchasing from you have been, without exception, performing in an exemplary fashion, and have done worlds of good for the staying power of our fleets in extended campaigns. That said, we're interested in additional contracts.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the various types of resourcer?

Also, how much for... oh, say, five hundred salvage corvettes?

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Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
~Foreign Minister Duke Paolio, The Outlands
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Ah greetings, I am glad to hear that the Missiles systems are working nicely. I have been meaning to talk to you abought the New Torpedo system we have, all of our front line ships are using them. Also they have two settings the standard torpedo. and a multi-missile good for fighter clearing.

Now to you order. 500 of our Salvage vets. Well I see that you still have a copy of our older catalog. But yes we do still have them in fact I need to get on the marketing department to up date the store.

Lets say 150 Ru's for such a long term and might I say lovely customers.

As you might have already heard the diffrent types of resourcer craft the

"Providence" has a unique design that alows for quick Yah and pitch manuvers. Making it good in mid to high speed astroid fields.

The "Tai RC" is basiclly a space truck you can atach up to 3 contaners behind the Cab/contaner main unit. With little loss of speed how ever it turns like a brick making it best for low speed fields and as some crews call them Free range astroieds.

The worker is a hybred craft combinaing the speed and graple system of a salvage vet and the harvister system of a resorcer. they are best used in high densidy fields with eather carrier or Resorece controler craft the secon ships are not in the store yet.

The HRC is also for sale but info is not avable to me at this time. All I know is it is more like a deep diging craft posably for creating cavitys in astroides with out damaging there structure.

We will start on your order as soon as we recive 15% payment.
All right, consider the salvettes sold. As for the resourcers, our explorer vessels have discovered some pretty impressive asteroid fields in several distant systems. We'd like to start working these as soon as possible; so, that said, we'll take five hundred each of the Providence and the TRC, and two thousand each of Workers and the HRC. We'll also take ten thousand extra containers for the TRC.

Two quick questions... are Resource Controllers available? We need an inexpensive ship capable of bringing the collectors where they need to go, capable of mounting one of our tesseract jump-drives, and would be willing to purchase roughly two hundred such ships.

Also, could we purchase several large-scale PDA's? Most useful, those things are.

(Please note that these are all contracts either for the Menelmacari government or my own company, Fëanor Holdings Group. Some other Menelmacari firms might also be interested in purchases)

*wires the downpayment on the salvage corvettes, with the remainder to be paid on completion of the order*

EDIT: Damn, just noticed your post about Controllers. If you manage to... speed their release, we'd be most appreciative, so we don't have to dedicate expensive, and rather huge, superfreighters to resourcer support.

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High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"If it is to be war between us, it shall be war to the knife and the knife to the hilt."
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20-07-2003, 03:54
Controlers now up, as well as LLR upgrades.

How large a scale of a PDA are you speaking of. We have a moblie ship yard type if that's what you are intersted in they are not avable to most nation due to the amount of power they would gane but because your nation shows much restrante we can offer you two.

We can start on your second order as soon as we have room for them.
Lunatic Retard Robots
20-07-2003, 03:58
Bump! Somtaaw, add on the upgrades section if you would: (It isn't urgent and it is late where I am so I unerstand if you don't want to do it)

7. Marine Corvette
Seperates drive nozzle of the Kushan Heavy Corvette into two parts and adds a compartment that can hold 25 fully equipped marines with a cargo door/airlock on the space between the divided nozzles.
20-07-2003, 13:08
heh can i get a discount if i plege the folowing?
I wont sell them ore their plans.
I wont use them agasinst you.
And i wont distribute them to other nations.

Are you intresting in a minor aliance?

Can i get a discount if i let my ships help you produce orderd ships?
(when nothing else to do, i temporairly turn their production controle ower to you.)
Just to reminde You of the post with the aliance qestion. :)
20-07-2003, 14:46
And when you update the sales page, you shuld hawe a tag showing if it is a new item ore now open fore sale item.
So one kows what is new on the page.

And "Lunatic retard robots" the modefys arent with anny prices ore cause and efect limiters.
I mean: how it afects a caft.
Can i hawe all upgrades on a ship?
ore are therse some limits?
(okay all ships cant hawe -all- of the ugrades, but you understand what i mean)

And i order:
100x Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter. 75Ru's/1
5x Kushan Salvage corvette 220Ru's/1
3x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru's/1
3x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru's/1
9x exta contaner 300Ru's/1
3x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru's/1

2x Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller 680Ru's/1
2x Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor 1,100Ru's/1
Whole order=20,260Ru's

What is the difrence between a resorce controler and a ore prosessor?
There are werry litle info on these?
And the difrence between a worker dock and a resorcer dock?
Arent corvet docks usefull fore recorce crafts? :?

What the heck is a :Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug? :?
Is it the same as a Kushan Salvage corvette with the same job? :?
Is it thath the Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug is bigger, armord and armed?
Ore what is it used fore?
Edit: found a another pic of it http://homeworld.sierra.com/images/cataclysm/ships/ship_tug2.jpg
Ooc: Are there any problems with witch kinde of procesor you hawe if you want to play homeworld?
20-07-2003, 15:53
Ooc:er.. is Menelmacars orders realy "shows much restrante"
Their previus order: 500x salwage corvets 220Ru's/1 =110,000Ru's
Their new order:
500x Providence 650Ru's/1 =325,000 Ru's
500x TRC 650Ru's/1 =325,000 Ru's
2000x Workers 500Ru's/1 =1,000,000 Ru's
2000x HRC (wich is by the way clasifyd) =? atleast =1,000,000 Ru's
10,000 containers 300Ru's/1 =3,000,000 Ru's

All orderd items=5,760,000Ru's

And orders "several large-scale PDA"
Edit:wants to order 200 Resource Controllers 680rus/1 =136,000
sorry if i hawent got the numbers right.
Trailers
20-07-2003, 16:04
Yowzaa!Lemme get me puppet.
Lunatic Retard Robots
20-07-2003, 18:30
Wolfguy, the effects of the upgrades are listed in their description. And the Minion is slower, more armoured, and has a different job than the Salvage Corvette. The upgrades are five RUs apiece. The Minion is like a big battering ram, whereas the salvage corvete goes out and salvages things with the magnetic grippers on the tewo foreward protrusions, if you see the pic again.
United Hiigarans
20-07-2003, 18:36
UH is willing to purchase:2xFirelance Frigates 1xBattlecruiser

RUs will be wired upon order confirmation.
Lunatic Retard Robots
20-07-2003, 18:39
Do you want the assault rail upgrade for 1 RU?
United Hiigarans
20-07-2003, 18:43
Do you want the assault rail upgrade for 1 RU?

Uhh...whats the assault rail?
Lunatic Retard Robots
20-07-2003, 18:45
It allows your frigates to carry marines on external rails, ready to board enemy ships.
United Hiigarans
20-07-2003, 18:47
Ahh,I will accept this offer.As soon as Somtaaw WAKES UP AND CONFIRMS!
20-07-2003, 21:39
OOC: why is no one ever posting here when I am on :roll: . Now to work.



Wolf:I have answered your alieance queastion via TG. No offence but is there somthing wrong with your "V" key because I am starting to hear Elmer Fuds voice when I read your post.

Your Carriers are ready for pickup you current order is 1 third compleat. your next order is 3 in line.

THe is very little diffrence between the two craft other then one is armed and the other is not. The fighter and corvet docks on the Collecter is for any escort craft whos crews need a rest. We find most resorce gathiering operations tend to last for quites some time so there are some pleasures inclued on the craft. How ever it will take 30 Ns hours to upgrade the Ships with LLR's eguipment. Ok ther ready will you be picking them up or do you need them delivered to a location?

Of the Heavy Tug I dont know how you managed to get a image of one of our craft but because you already know of it I will explaine. It is used to push larger astroieds out of fields making them more acessable to resorcers, but in a pinch it could be used as a combat craft, this is not recomend.

Trailers: I hav no Idea what your tring to say with your post.

UH: I was wondering when you were going to show up. I just so happen to have acouple of craft I have been holding for you. I hope an HBC is ok for your battlecruiser and Hiigaran Ion frig's or ok in place of the Firelances.
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-07-2003, 02:05
bump
Trailers
21-07-2003, 02:11
OOC: why is no one ever posting here when I am on :roll: . Now to work.



Wolf:I have answered your alieance queastion via TG. No offence but is there somthing wrong with your "V" key because I am starting to hear Elmer Fuds voice when I read your post.

Your Carriers are ready for pickup you current order is 1 third compleat. your next order is 3 in line.

THe is very little diffrence between the two craft other then one is armed and the other is not. The fighter and corvet docks on the Collecter is for any escort craft whos crews need a rest. We find most resorce gathiering operations tend to last for quites some time so there are some pleasures inclued on the craft. How ever it will take 30 Ns hours to upgrade the Ships with LLR's eguipment. Ok ther ready will you be picking them up or do you need them delivered to a location?

Of the Heavy Tug I dont know how you managed to get a image of one of our craft but because you already know of it I will explaine. It is used to push larger astroieds out of fields making them more acessable to resorcers, but in a pinch it could be used as a combat craft, this is not recomend.

Trailers: I hav no Idea what your tring to say with your post.

UH: I was wondering when you were going to show up. I just so happen to have acouple of craft I have been holding for you. I hope an HBC is ok for your battlecruiser and Hiigaran Ion frig's or ok in place of the Firelances.

UH is my puppet...
United Hiigarans
21-07-2003, 02:16
And those changes are fine.Money wired.What ships where you holding?
Lunatic Retard Robots
21-07-2003, 02:24
bump.
21-07-2003, 02:38
And those changes are fine.Money wired.What ships where you holding?

One Hiig Battle cruiser and two Hiig Ion frig's.
Menelmacar
21-07-2003, 10:19
Two shipyards? Lovely, sounds perfect. ^_^ Ring it all up, and we'll send the downpayment post-haste.

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21-07-2003, 22:04
Menelmacar,United Hiigarans,Furry_wolf2001b. Your orders are compleat,

Except for the MS class ship it will be compleated by the end of the week(rl)
21-07-2003, 23:15
Cool. :D
The last of the monny sent.
But shurly it dosent include my new order?

And hawe my people been traind satisfactonary fore their roles?
If so let them man the shipps.

And we hawe more people ready to be traind fore the newly orderd ships.
Our media hawe been great in adverticing the new and exiting space navy life. :D
We hawe a lot of aplications and can pick the cream of the lot.
Space are quite the lure...

And let the minor fleet hang around fore mutual defence and protection.
You can hawe observers abord if you are worried about their honesty and pecefull intentions...
Besides they dont need to be in the heart of your teritory send them out to help guard one of your borders.
21-07-2003, 23:28
And when you update the sales page, you shuld hawe a tag showing if it is a new item ore now open fore sale item.
So one kows what is new on the page.

And "Lunatic retard robots" the modefys arent with anny prices ore cause and efect limiters.
I mean: how it afects a caft.
Can i hawe all upgrades on a ship?
ore are therse some limits?
(okay all ships cant hawe -all- of the ugrades, but you understand what i mean)

And i order:
100x Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter. 75Ru's/1
5x Kushan Salvage corvette 220Ru's/1
3x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru's/1
3x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru's/1
9x exta contaner 300Ru's/1
3x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru's/1

2x Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller 680Ru's/1
2x Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor 1,100Ru's/1
Whole order=20,260Ru's

just to remind of last order.
And i am working on a aditonal order of pure war ships...
And an aditonal mother ship i order right now, if it is okay.
1x -Kuun-Lan 8000Ru's/1
22-07-2003, 01:24
Okay i will make an aditiopnal order:

3x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru/1
3x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru/1
3x extra container 300Ru/1
3x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru/1

All orderd=6300RU's

Same payment plan as last time?

Can start building them once the carriers are built.
And you hawent forgoten this one?
Ore are this order already prosesd and ready with the carriers?
22-07-2003, 01:29
Yes it dose include the newere order. I hav't been geting many orders for fighters so you second order went strate thru.

Please conferm, Are you ordering another mother ship?

AS I said all your ships are ready except the Mother ship class.
22-07-2003, 01:42
Whops forgot to post the new big order.

Class: Corvette -
10x Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV 150 RUs/1
5x Kushan Heavy Corvette 240 RUs/1 LRR
=2,700 RUs

Frigate Class -
2x Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1
2x Taiidan Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1 LRR
2x Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate 650 RUs/1
2x Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate 425 RUs/1
2x Kushan "Puppeteer" Drone Frigate 800 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug 650 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate 700 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Hive" Advanced Drone Frigate 575 RUs/1
=9,900 RUs

Capital Class -
2x "Revelation" Destroyer 1,350 RUs/1
1x "Avatar" Heavy Cruiser 3,700 RUs/1
1x "Deacon" Destroyer 3,000 RUs/1
1x "Archangel" Dreadnought 6,800 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Destroyer 5,000 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Battlecruiser 11,800 RUs/1
=33,000 RUs

Whole order:45,600 RUs
Same payment plan as usual?

And LRR i wuld like this upgrades:
Escape Pods
Assault Rails
Marine Corvette
Docking bay

Are there anny negative efects on the crafts becuse of these upgrades?
22-07-2003, 01:52
Yes i confirm thath i order another mothership.
I thought it best, as they take a while to build, and are so important....
Lunatic Retard Robots
22-07-2003, 18:17
Whops forgot to post the new big order.

Class: Corvette -
10x Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV 150 RUs/1
5x Kushan Heavy Corvette 240 RUs/1 LRR
=2,700 RUs

Frigate Class -
2x Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1
2x Taiidan Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1 LRR
2x Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate 650 RUs/1
2x Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate 425 RUs/1
2x Kushan "Puppeteer" Drone Frigate 800 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug 650 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate 700 RUs/1
2x Somtaaw "Hive" Advanced Drone Frigate 575 RUs/1
=9,900 RUs

Capital Class -
2x "Revelation" Destroyer 1,350 RUs/1
1x "Avatar" Heavy Cruiser 3,700 RUs/1
1x "Deacon" Destroyer 3,000 RUs/1
1x "Archangel" Dreadnought 6,800 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Destroyer 5,000 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Battlecruiser 11,800 RUs/1
=33,000 RUs

Whole order:45,600 RUs
Same payment plan as usual?

And LRR i wuld like this upgrades:
Escape Pods
Assault Rails
Marine Corvette
Docking bay

Are there anny negative efects on the crafts becuse of these upgrades?

Ok. The 'vettes and the frigate were in stock, so they will arrive soon, and the upgrades will be included on the craft you get delivered, as they were also in stock.
22-07-2003, 22:23
Ok cool. :)
Neo-Zyon
23-07-2003, 00:44
The Kingdom of Neo-Zyon must purchase the following plans, and will pay extra for them:

Arrora Shipyard
Chimera Training Station
Kushan Arrow Scout
Revelation Destroyer
Archangel Dreadnought
Super Acolyte

Please reply ASAP and give e the pricing for the plans above. As I said before, I am willing to pay extra.

The Kingdom of Neo-Zyon
23-07-2003, 01:01
I will sell the craft only no plans. Also Arrora and Chimera are not for sale.
Neo-Zyon
23-07-2003, 01:05
I see. Then I'll take the following:

30 Kushan Arrow Scouts
25 Revelation Destroyer
5 Archangel Dreadnought
35 Super Acolyte


I shall wire the due amount of money upon order confirmation. Thank you.
23-07-2003, 05:02
I onf think you can afford them at this time. Perhaps one quarter of that order.

Say

8 Kushan Arrow Scouts
5 Revelation Destroyer
1 Archangel Dreadnought
10 Super Acolyte
23-07-2003, 05:28
So somtaaw.
Is it okay to lewe my small fleet hanging around?
And you newer finiched the aliance talk.
Are you cool whit it?

And send my fleet to the other side of one of your borders to help guard it and so i can colect some Ru's at the same time.
A border witch hopefully is un claimd by hostiles ore other people who culd objet to my rescorce colecting.
Are you and LRR cool with thath too?
Lunatic Retard Robots
23-07-2003, 18:01
Yeah, we are cool with that. We don't have borders. Our ships prowl the galaxy mostly un-bothered.
Gurguvungunit
23-07-2003, 18:32
Eeemmm... not to be annoying or anything but... Are my ships done yet? :?
24-07-2003, 00:47
Yeah, we are cool with that. We don't have borders. Our ships prowl the galaxy mostly un-bothered.

We think the same. :lol:
I were thinking along simular lines. :)
So order therm to keep pace with you on your left flank.
But order them back in time fore the launching of my first mothership.
So they can join upp from the start.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-07-2003, 00:58
Eeemmm... not to be annoying or anything but... Are my ships done yet? :?

If you ordered any of mine they are. I kinda forgot.

And furrywolf, i am confused.
24-07-2003, 04:23
About what?
Okay i ment you can give them orders(as you are closer and you know were they are better than me).
And hawe my fleet move with you in consert(as a wingtman type of thing)
And hawe the fleet move to the launching place of my mothership when she is about to launch.
So she will hawe their protection from the start.
Then they can move back (now with the mothersip included)to your flank as before.
(And move as a wing man i meant they move to the naiboring system to you, and then they keep pace as you move along.)
Ore was it somthing else?
Maby my coment thath we think alike.
Whel i ment thath i hawe thought about doing the same as you, in hawing them free roaming, instead of consentrating them at a fixed location.
24-07-2003, 08:00
Eeemmm... not to be annoying or anything but... Are my ships done yet? :?

If you ordered any of mine they are. I kinda forgot.

And furrywolf, i am confused.

Oh hell sorry abought that I included you in the last come get your ships post but the fourm frelled up and I missed it on the re-post.
Yes they are ready.

Furry yes on your allience, no problem on the leting your ships have freerain and we will callthem back for the launch of the mothership( you realy need a name for that thing) later this week.
Lunatic Retard Robots
24-07-2003, 18:32
How about the FWSV Holzfeller?
25-07-2003, 07:20
How about the FWSV Holzfeller?
:?
Err i hawe -no- idea what that name means, ore come from, ore(if it i a peraon) who the person might be.
No thank you.
But thanks anny way. :)
We -do- apreciate the sugestion, and are open fore more sugestions. :)
Try again, ore explain the meaning of "FWSV Holzfeller".
Preferable both, as "FWSV Holzfeller" is hardly a pretty ore proud name.
Ore draws aoutomatic conetions to other things.
I culd be wrong tho, it culd be thath -i- just dont recognize the name...
26-07-2003, 08:58
Well Furry I hope you got a name picked out cause your Mothership is done. If you dont have one thers a couple of engineers over at Arrora who would be glad to put a few Limrecks on it.

All of your craft are back awating it's launch.

Also the nation that orderd 12 Heavy Cruisers and 12 first gen destroyers via TG your craft are ready I am sorry I dont recall your name.
27-07-2003, 02:01
O thank you most glorius somtaaw.
We hawe mutch apreciated your help.
So hawe you started building my second mothership yet'?
Ore maby it is LRR thaths building it. :)
27-07-2003, 08:12
I am working on it it should be ready in abought one RL week.
27-07-2003, 21:12
Cool. :)
The debate is going hot still, about what my nation is going to name the mothership.
So far no wote has been decicive and our king has been quiet about this issue.
So fore now we hawe desided to use the temporary name of "mother one".
(clever eh? ;) )
Two names thath hawe (fore now) the most wotes are Bast and Ra.
Afther the eguptian gods.
Swirrhirr
27-07-2003, 21:31
My two worlds are in severe disarray at the hands of the Hrehkk(a race from the Unknown Regions) and they need a formidable force to push off the enemy's advance. Please help the citizens of Clanicka and Swirrhirr.
Swirrhirr
27-07-2003, 21:31
My two worlds are in severe disarray at the hands of the Hrehkk(a race from the Unknown Regions) and they need a formidable force to push off the enemy's advance. Please help the citizens of Clanicka and Swirrhirr.
27-07-2003, 22:28
Are you asking to buy ships or are you asking for help. If you need help post who need in on your one thread,if you want to buy ships state what ones you would like to buy.
Swirrhirr
28-07-2003, 00:52
I just want a recommendation of how I can protect two planets from the Hrehkk. Any ideas on what units to purchase to compose two separate fleets(one fleet for Clanicka and one fleet for Swirrhirr). Just send me a list of what would make up a good fleet for defensive and offensive purposes.
Gurguvungunit
28-07-2003, 01:23
Can I buy myself an Imperator carrier?
*money wired upon approval*
28-07-2003, 02:32
Sure you can, are you going to want any of LLR's upgrades?
31-07-2003, 03:19
Hello, I am a new nation, 86 mil, and i would like to inquire about what you think is an affordable compliment for my early space fleet. I am a bit of a n00b, so I really need your help with ideas for my fleet.
31-07-2003, 10:30
Well how milatary is your country like what is the % of your National Budget.?

This is all the info I could get as is

Population: 93,000,000
Civil Rights: Few
Economy: All-Consuming
GDP per Capita: $30,000
GDP: $2,790,000,000,000
National Budget: $878,314,320,000
Swirrhirr
31-07-2003, 17:14
Kushan "Arrow" Scout
Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor
Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber
Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter
Hiigaran Interceptor
Hiigaran Bomber
Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV
Hiigaran Gunship
Hiigaran Pulsar Gunship

Please t-gram me or post how much one of each ship is, and then I will decide what I want and how many. Thanks,
The Republic of Swirrhirr
31-07-2003, 23:18
OK due to recent aquiration of funds due to military auctions/ nukes being sold off AND i havent bought much AND i have a great economy... i will take all of the following to launch my space program:

5 Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate
2 Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate
2 Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate
1 Dreadnought
1 Hiigaran Battlecruiser
1 Kushan "Imperator" Carrier
25 Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter
25 Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber
1 Hiigaran Carrier
25 Somtaaw "Avenger" Corvette
Funds wired.
01-08-2003, 06:58
Kushan "Arrow" Scout
Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor
Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber
Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter
Hiigaran Interceptor
Hiigaran Bomber
Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV
Hiigaran Gunship
Hiigaran Pulsar Gunship

Please t-gram me or post how much one of each ship is, and then I will decide what I want and how many. Thanks,
The Republic of Swirrhirr

Hiigaran Interceptor 90Ru's
Hiigaran Bomber 110 Ru's
Hiigaran Gunship 200 Ru's
Hiigaran Pulsar Gunship 225 Ru's

All other prices are as listed.
01-08-2003, 07:15
Pedaphiliac order and funds recived all Craft will be ready (tuesday RL) Will you be requiring Training and crew pickup? Also is there a color patern you would like?
01-08-2003, 07:33
hmm...would you be able to supply a crew? I mean...they would be returned once i dispand some of my earth forces and train them..hmm...colors...how bout black with the NIN logo on the back end, front end, underneath, and on top, all centered on their locations.
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/legreg/wp/nin.gif


(If you can give me crews, tell me how many men so i know what to dispand.)
01-08-2003, 07:55
Well I am making my 2nd Hiigarian Division. I would like to pay like this. 10% now (i know thats not a lot) 50% Tomarow. then 40% the day after, sounds good? Anyways, here is what i want:

5 Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate
2 Hiigaran Flak Frigate
2 Hiigaran Ion Cannon Frigate
3 Hiigaran Defense Field Frigate
4 Hiigaran Torpedo Frigate
1 "Deacon" Destroyer ( October Sky )
1 "Avatar" Heavy Cruiser ( Crimson )
1 Hiigaran Destroyer ( Kliene )
1 Hiigaran Carrier ( Enfield )
25 Hiigaran Interceptors
25 Hiigaran Bombers
Somtaaw "Shaman" Carrier ( Arcadian )
15 Hiigaran Pulsar Gunship
10 Hiigaran Gunship
01-08-2003, 10:42
How much money would be for 3 Vengeance Assault Frigates, 5 Workers and one Hiigaran Carrier?

OOC:sorry for that newbie-ish question, but what 'money wired' message mean? Just confirming that you send money, without taking any other action?
01-08-2003, 17:21
Your payment plan is fine. I assume you want the same color plan, however you will have to provide your own crews we are quite straped for personal our selves.

As for your expanded fleet a presume that the names in brackets are the names you would like on the ships? They will be ready in one (RL week)


Furry_wolf2001 Your second Command ship is compleat (name changed due to internationl presure)



Triumvirate that would come to 7,775 RU's (yes it's just a way of say ok heres you money please start working on my ships.)
02-08-2003, 01:25
Cool thank you. :)
02-08-2003, 01:58
Just to inform all nations Color and Embelems are now being offerd to all nations, if you have alread recived your ships and would like a color other then the standard mat gray. Bring them back and they will be re-colored to your liking for a small fee.
02-08-2003, 12:04
Triumvirate that would come to 7,775 RU's (yes it's just a way of say ok heres you money please start working on my ships.)

OOC:Thanks [I wanted to know how much money, not RUs, it will take, (well, I can do THAT basic math) but still thanks for second answer].

IC:

So Triumvirate will like to buy those 3 Vengeance Assault Frigates, 5 Workers and Hiigaran Carrier.

Money wired upon confirmation.

Also, is there any ship that can repair capital ships? And can plasma bomb and drive technology be bought [as far as we understand, plasma bombs use plasma from drive as ammunition, so both must be bought to work]? We know that you do not sell any plans, but we are not sure about the technology.
Lunatic Retard Robots
02-08-2003, 22:25
OCC: Hi Somtaaw. I'm back from my vacation.

IC: (Somtaaw please add this) LRR will train technical personell for your ships at 5RUs per crew. They will be put through many tough simulations and training flights through deep space, in the Oort cloud, and in the rings of Saturn to ensure a varied training environment.

We will also build Your ship projects at the Starchaser Shipyards, which are renound for their high quality work. This costs 130 RUs per frigate, 500 RUs per destroyer/heavy capital fighting ship, and 1000 RUs for a carrier (50 RUs added for a combat carrier, with heavy weapons loadout, etc.), plus 5 RUs for delivery over any distance within the Milky Way. (Add 6 RUs for any delivery to Andromeda or an equal disanced point. Special long-distance orders must be arranged via tg.)
Gurguvungunit
02-08-2003, 22:54
Sure you can, are you going to want any of LLR's upgrades?
None fitted the Imperator. Or did they... :oops:
If any did, do tell me and include them.
*Money wired*
Gurguvungunit
02-08-2003, 22:57
Please name it the Reign Of Fire thx.
02-08-2003, 23:32
Triumvirate that would come to 7,775 RU's (yes it's just a way of say ok heres you money please start working on my ships.)

OOC:Thanks [I wanted to know how much money, not RUs, it will take, (well, I can do THAT basic math) but still thanks for second answer].

IC:

So Triumvirate will like to buy those 3 Vengeance Assault Frigates, 5 Workers and Hiigaran Carrier.

Money wired upon confirmation.

Also, is there any ship that can repair capital ships? And can plasma bomb and drive technology be bought [as far as we understand, plasma bombs use plasma from drive as ammunition, so both must be bought to work]? We know that you do not sell any plans, but we are not sure about the technology.

OOC: oh sorry I got a lot of questions abought cost, 7775ru's = 18,294,109,355.25 USD

Your craft will be ready wendsday,workers are capable of hull repaires any badly damaged internal systems can and should be replaced from ships storage.
All craft have our most up to date ship tech Plasma bomb launchers are part of the Assault frig's loadout. But if you would like to buy tech TG me.


Gurguvungunit:Your Carrier the "Reign Of Fire" is ready.
Lunatic Retard Robots
03-08-2003, 00:54
Hey somtaaw, did you see my other post? But anyway, we will help with tech refits.
03-08-2003, 01:00
Yes I did. And it has been added.
Lunatic Retard Robots
03-08-2003, 01:23
Yes I did. And it has been added.

Oh. I didn't see it. Is it under the upgrades?
03-08-2003, 02:07
Ooc:It is under your name.
Culd i give an advice/sugestion?
Werent shure to whom to send a pm too ore to send it to you both...
Anny way change this:


This costs 130 RUs per frigate, 500 RUs per destroyer/heavy capital fighting ship, and 1000 RUs for a carrier (50 RUs added for a combat carrier, with heavy weapons loadout, etc.), plus 5 RUs for delivery over any distance within the Milky Way. (Add 6 RUs for any delivery to Andromeda...


To this:

This costs 130 RUs per frigate, 500 RUs per destroyer/light-medium capital fighting ship, and 1000 RUs for a carrier ore heavy capital fighting ship(50 RUs added for a combat carrier, with heavy weapons loadout, etc.), plus 5 RUs (per ship) for delivery over any distance within the Milky Way. (Add 6 RUs for any delivery to Andromeda...

It seems more resnoble.
Lunatic Retard Robots
03-08-2003, 02:10
It does. Thanks.
03-08-2003, 05:30
It is done.
Lunatic Retard Robots
03-08-2003, 16:26
Somtaaw, I just thought of another upgrade. Have you ever played with the Annihilation Mod on HW1? (Cataclysm keeps crashing so I have to play 1, and I haven't got HW2 yet.) It is from that. Here it is:

8.(?) Pocket Destroyer
Adds two ion cannons to the Vengance class or Kuudark Class Assault Frigates in place of the plasma bomb launchers. This upgrade is NOT compadible with the flak frogate as of yet, and if you already have the torpedo bay upgrade installed, you have to remove it for this one.
03-08-2003, 23:16
Sounds intersting might have to remove the plasma bomb launchers to be able to fit the coils for it.
Lunatic Retard Robots
04-08-2003, 01:04
Thats what I say.

Here is the better version:
8.(?) Pocket Destroyer
Adds two ion cannons to the Vengance class or Kuudark Class Assault Frigates in place of the plasma bomb launchers. That means the plasma bomb launchers MUST BE REMOVED to accomodate the ion cannons. This upgrade is NOT compadible with the flak frogate as of yet, and if you already have the torpedo bay upgrade installed, you have to remove it for this one.
04-08-2003, 01:58
Much better. So it is writen so it is done.
Lunatic Retard Robots
05-08-2003, 00:34
Ok. Very good.
05-08-2003, 06:28
Due to MASSIVE funds funneling through my country because of recent liquidation of my land armed forces, I have put together my desired 3rd Frigate Division.



100 Kushan "Arrow" Scout
50 Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor
50 Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter
20 Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber
5 Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate
5 Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate
3 Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate
5 Kushan "Puppeteer" Drone Frigate
2 Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug
2 Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate
4 Somtaaw "Hive" Advanced Drone Frigate
2 Hiigaran Torpedo Frigate
4 Hiigaran Torpedo Frigate
3 Hiigaran Marine Frigate
2 Hiigaran Ion Cannon Frigate
4 Hiigaran Flak Frigate


Half now. Half when they have been delivered, is that alright?

Same flags and patterns as the rest of them.
05-08-2003, 08:37
Very well, also your first fleet is now ready.
05-08-2003, 11:00
Good good...
05-08-2003, 12:31
We, the People's Republic of Arbra would like to purchase the following:

(100) Kushan "Arrow Scout

(20) Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor

(30) Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber

(2) Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate

(2) Hiigaran Marine Frigate

(4) "Revelation" Destroyer

(2) Kushan "Imperator" Carrier

(10)Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector

(5) Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector

(1) Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller

Please state the price.

( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58966 - Sniper Country Space Colony. Bill Sniper Country, please. Proof can be TGed to you if needed. )
Lunatic Retard Robots
05-08-2003, 17:22
Would any of you peeps like the upgrades listed in my section to be applied to your craft?
05-08-2003, 17:24
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Lunatic Retard Robots
05-08-2003, 17:25
It would be a little unorthodox, but yes. What exactly do you have in mind?
05-08-2003, 17:32
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Lunatic Retard Robots
05-08-2003, 17:39
Yeah, I guess that could be done. The probe would be pretty disfigured then.
05-08-2003, 17:46
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05-08-2003, 23:37
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06-08-2003, 01:51
bump
Lunatic Retard Robots
06-08-2003, 02:04
Somtaaw, I came up for some class names for the HW2 ships.

Gunship Corvette- Scimitar Class
Battlecruiser- Mikhail Gorbachev/Peristroyka Class
Carrier- Kip Thorne Class
Interceptor- Dark Nebula Class
Scout- Speedy Class
Marine Frigate- Farbanti Class
Ion Cannon Frigate- Archer Class
Torpedo Frigate- Sniper Class
Support Frigate- Haven Class
Destroyer- Lancer Class
Bomber- Thunderbolt II Class

Whaddaya think
06-08-2003, 02:59
Not bad i might use them, untill I decide I will call them what they are untill the true class names are reviled.

Arbra: Your ships are curently third in the production list.
Cost: 25530Ru's 60,070,561,008.30 USD

Also seeing as another nation did not finish paying for there order and have not informed us other wise.
I can offer 4 Hiigaran Destroyer and 1Hiigaran Carrier all that is requred is that the balance of there order be payed for.

Raem: Your order is compleat.

Pedaphiliac: Your second fleet will be ready in 18 hours.

SniperCountry:OOC: Well I used to use proabs as a form of cruise missile in the game nothing like launching 25 some odd probes (starting tech) at the othere guys MS to take it out befor his defencs are up. But if you want some small but usefull ships microships should be up some time tonight.Also you dont need to bump for my sake I keep an eye on all threads I am invloved in.


Any one who can pay:I can offer 4 Hiigaran Destroyer and 1 Hiigaran Carrier all that is requred is that the balance of there order be payed for.

1400 Ru's on the Carrier
2000 Ru's on each Destroyer
06-08-2003, 03:07
We will make a bid for the Carrier and one Destroyer.

(Let me switch to SC to pay...)
06-08-2003, 03:09
Very whell but whom will be using them?
06-08-2003, 03:11
Arbra.
06-08-2003, 03:14
Ok would you like them deliverd now or with the rest of your fleet.
06-08-2003, 03:15
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06-08-2003, 03:59
Got it.

Update Microships, Tech, and Non Combat.
06-08-2003, 04:11
400 Leech Breaching Drones
500 Defense Pods


funds wired.
06-08-2003, 05:00
Very well confermed, Good luck geting them excepted out there. they seem to be hiting you hard with Godmodes.
Lunatic Retard Robots
07-08-2003, 02:08
Here's another upgrade-

9. Spy Pod
Removes breaching gear in Leech Pod and replaces it with a small, one-man cockpit. Excellent for infiltration missions, where you can load a marine into them and launch a stealth boarding party, or rescue missions where the Leech Pod can pick up a stranded pilot or defector.
07-08-2003, 02:14
illior wishes to buy 1 kushan imperator carrier and one hiigaran cargo ship. money wired. please have them sent to illior ASAP.
Moviewatcher
07-08-2003, 02:39
i would like 2 avatar heavy cruiser

*wires money*
07-08-2003, 07:41
LLR:Done

Pedaphiliac:All orders are compleat

Arbra:Starting your order

Moviewatcher : Your order is after Arbra's expext them by saterday to mid sunday.

Illior: Are you sure you can support those craft? If so expect them by monday.

ALL: I still have 3 Hiig Battleships remaning at discounted cost.
07-08-2003, 08:09
Ill take them. I am going to donate them to my alliance. funds wired

(incase you are retarded, i meant the hiigs)
07-08-2003, 11:25
No I am not.

And the ships will be sent with the rest of your fleet.
07-08-2003, 13:20
i can support those ships. there are natoins much younger than me whocan support those ships.
07-08-2003, 17:35
Very well may you have luck with them, the shiping date it as stated.
Independent Hitmen
07-08-2003, 19:32
we would like 8 transport ships. Thank you. Payment will be wired half upon confermation of this order and half when the 8th Ship is delivered to us at a point to be agreed on later. Thank you.
08-08-2003, 06:30
Hi we wuld like to upgrade our entire fleet with the Somtaaw Repair Bot.
And:
30x Somtaaw "Leech" Breaching Pod
40X Somtaaw "Sentinel" Defense Pod

I also wuld like an aditional 30 "Kushan Probe".
And 4x Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport.
it got a "small landing bay" but is it fore fighters?
Ore perhaps Corvettes?
Ore is it simply fore cargo handling?

Er... the "Missile Launcher/Missile Factory" is a weponsystem ore a ship?
And no cost is mentiond.

And hawing trouble spotting new from old list items....
08-08-2003, 06:59
Independent Hitmen: Confermed and pament plan is fine. Will you want all craft at once or as compleated?

Furry_wolf2001b:Pleas list type and number of craft to be upgraded.

I should have brought up it takes 12 Sentinels to defend a command class ship, 8 for heavy cap ship and 4 for any thing smaller.

Are you going to want any og the Breaching pods with the LLR infeltrating gear?

The landing bay on the Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport can hold 10 assorted craft. What you put in there is of your choseing, we keep a couple of fighters, personal shuttles and cargo tugs.

The Missile Launcher/Missile Factory is a weapons system where and how you mount it is up to you. Cost it 300 Ru's for one system but may vary acording to custom changes.
Gurguvungunit
08-08-2003, 16:31
how's me carrier coming?
09-08-2003, 00:16
it is fininsed I stated so on page 8, 12th post from the top. It's hard to spot.
10-08-2003, 13:43
Arbra:Ships are ready

Moviewatcher :Yours are as well

Illior:Starded earlyer today will be ready monday.

Independent Hitmen:Half of your is order ready the rest will be compleat in 24 hours.

Furry_wolf2001b: Still waithing on fleet numbers that are requiring an up-grade, needed to figure cost.
The other craft "Leech", "Sentinel", "Probe"And "Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transports" are ready.
11-08-2003, 04:01
Okay sorry fore not mentioning numbers, but i hawent realy keept track of them all...
Annyway monny sent fore the finischt crafts, while i go and dig upp the numbers of crafts i hawe, and witch i want to bother to upgrade.
Whil take awhile tho.(im lazy)

Edit: can begin with equping the bulk transports with the repair bots.(if posible)
And my two motherships i boght from you.(ore what did you call them,comand crafts?)
Menelmacar
11-08-2003, 04:08
I'm pleased to see the Controllers are up. We'll take 150 of the Kushan controllers, 50 of the Somtaaw ones, and 100 Hiigaran mobile refineries. These expanded resourcing operations will have the effect of straining our shipping capacity, so we'll also take 200 bulk transports.

On each of the controllers, we'll need the fighter and corvette pads modified to support our own classes of craft, we'll forward you the necessary specifications.

We'd also like one thousand of these Leech breaching pods. Sentinels we need not, as we have our own form of shields, but ten thousand repair bots would help a great deal.

All our vessels have a black and red paint scheme, with the vessels' names emblazoned in gold Quenya and English script at the bow, on both the port and starboard sides, the English lettering half the size and centered immediately below the Quenya. Insignia is the sigil of House Fëanor, a red eight-pointed star, the bottom point twice as long as the others (check out our flag for an illustration).

Our crews have rather extravagant tastes for the interiors of the vessels, so leave that part unfinished and we'll handle it ourselves.

Ring it all up; payment is as usual, half up front, half on delivery.

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
Clicky-clicky! We Love The Iraqi Information Minister (www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
11-08-2003, 04:57
Note:I edited my last post.
11-08-2003, 07:20
How about the FWSV Holzfeller?
:?
Err i hawe -no- idea what that name means, ore come from, ore(if it i a peraon) who the person might be.
No thank you.
But thanks anny way. :)
We -do- apreciate the sugestion, and are open fore more sugestions. :)
Try again, ore explain the meaning of "FWSV Holzfeller".
Preferable both, as "FWSV Holzfeller" is hardly a pretty ore proud name.
Ore draws aoutomatic conetions to other things.
I culd be wrong tho, it culd be thath -i- just dont recognize the name...
Ah i see now.
In German it means "woodcutter/Lumberjack", in Mandarin it means "flying monkey"
11-08-2003, 07:52
Ooc:um.. Did you hawe a old sales thread and did i purtchas somthing there?
Ic:
heres the stuff i bought here
(if i hawent forgoton anything)

-orderd and deliverd-

Class: Fighter
10x Kushan "Arrow" Scout 35 RUs/1
10x Kushan "Blade Mk.5" Interceptor 55 RUs/1
10x Kushan "Thunderbolt" Attack Bomber 85 RUs/1
110xSomtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter. 75Ru's/1

3x Super Acolyte 300 RUs

-Class: Corvette -

13x Somtaaw "Avenger" ACV 150 RU/1
8x Kushan Salvage corvette 220Ru's/1
6x Kushan Heavy Corvette 240 RUs/1 LRR


-Frigate Class -

3x Kushan "Vengeance" Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1
3x Taiidan Assault Frigate 575 RUs/1 LRR
3x Kushan "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate 650 RUs/1
3x Kushan "Matriarch" Support Frigate 425 RUs/1
3x Kushan "Puppeteer" Drone Frigate 800 RUs/1
3x Somtaaw "Minion" Heavy Tug 650 RUs/1
3x Somtaaw "Dervish" Multi-Beam Frigate 700 RUs/1
3x Somtaaw "Hive" Advanced Drone Frigate 575 RUs/1


-Capital Class -

3x "Revelation" Destroyer 1,350 RUs/1
2x "Avatar" Heavy Cruiser 3,700 RUs/1
2x "Deacon" Destroyer 3,000 RUs/1
2x "Archangel" Dreadnought 6,800 RUs/1
2x Hiigaran Destroyer 5,000 RUs/1
2x Hiigaran Battlecruiser 11,800 RUs/1

2x Kushan "Imperator" Carrier 2,000 RUs/1
1x Somtaaw "Shaman" Carrier 3400 RUs/1
1x Hiigaran Carrier 3400 RUs/1


-Class: Mothership -
2x Kuun-Lan 8,000 RU/1


-Resource Class -

6x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru/1

6x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru/1
12x exta contaner 300Ru's/1

6x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru/1

2x Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller 680Ru's/1
2x Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor 1,100Ru's/1


-Class: Microship

30x Somtaaw "Leech" Breaching Pod Cost: 40 RUs/1
40X Somtaaw "Sentinel" Defense Pod Cost: 70 RUs /1

40x Kushan Probe 30 RUs/1


-Non combat-
4x Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport.

And LRR i wuld like these upgrades on those i dident upgrade erlier:
Escape Pods
Assault Rails
Docking bay


I also got:
5x carriers and 3x destroyers -The 45th Flying Tigers design-

2 Dreadnaught criteria- Mother class Light Attack Craft carrier-
http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/villerainamo/ART_HMS_MINOTAUR.JPG
from -Clairmont-
11-08-2003, 07:58
I thought i had more...
O and i saw that there arent any bots fore the smaller fighters and sutch but i mentiond tem anny way.
11-08-2003, 08:06
No problem Furry, we will start preping for the arivle of your Command ships and have started on the bulk craft.

Menelmacar it's always a pleasure doing work for you we will get started on you order as soon as some bays clear up somtime in the next 36 hours.

How ever your order is a slight bit confusing, which craft do you want the interior left out of, I am sure you mean just the non critical systems. Such as crew amenitys.

There will be a small retooling cost on the docking bay ajustments of abought 2 ru's a craft, And seaing as we usely mount small bays in the hull of the ships for repairbots the cost of them will be lower seing as your people will be doing the adaptive work.

So your total comes to:(all prices depend on reply)

150 Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller 104,700
50 Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor 55,000
100 Hiigaran Mobile Refinery 70,000
1000 Somtaaw "Leech" Breaching Pod 40,000
200 Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport 480,000

749,700Ru's
1,763,999,200,467 USD

OOC: well that should fund the improving to stage 3 armor for all of my fleet.
Menelmacar
11-08-2003, 08:09
On the amenities: All the craft, and yes, just non-crucial systems. :) Our crews have high standards for on-board creature comforts.

*snuggles big fuggin' budget* Any way we could get a bulk discount, down to, say, 1.35 trillion?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
Clicky-clicky! We Love The Iraqi Information Minister (www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)
11-08-2003, 08:23
Best to order somne more.
-class: fighter-
200X Super Acolyte 300ru/1=6000ru

-Resource Class -
6x Kushan "Providence" Resource Collector 650Ru/1
6x Taiidan Resource Collector 650Ru/1
12x exta contaner 300Ru's/1
6x Somtaaw "Worker" Resource Collector 500Ru/1

2x Kushan "Redemption" Resource Controller 680Ru's/1
2x Somtaaw "Chieftain Mk.3" Ore Processor 1,100Ru's/1

-Class: Microship
20x Somtaaw "Leech" Breaching Pod Cost: 40 RUs/1
nad aditonal 20x with the Spy Pod option.

40X Somtaaw "Sentinel" Defense Pod Cost: 70 RUs /1

Ooc:
You shuld realy mention (On the sales page)in witch crafts/class the Missile Launcher/Missile Factory fits inn.
Ore mention the crafts/class it dont fits in.
And -maby- also some advice how to best icorperate them ito a design.

And shuld explain whats the advantage/disadvantage with the :
-Torpedo launchers
-Torpedo Rack
-Pocket Destroyer
optins compared to the usual defalth option.
11-08-2003, 08:45
On the amenities: All the craft, and yes, just non-crucial systems. :) Our crews have high standards for on-board creature comforts.

*snuggles big fuggin' budget* Any way we could get a bulk discount, down to, say, 1.35 trillion?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
Clicky-clicky! We Love The Iraqi Information Minister (www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)


Of course we can drop the price considering the amount of Ru's saved in not adding alot of the interior on the ships in fact the reduced cost would drop yout total to . 1,281,439,400,385.29 USD our miners spend so much time out there a good 30% of the interior crew section is ste aside for comfort.
11-08-2003, 09:12
Somtaaw designed craft
24 Frigates
840 Ru's
7 destroyers and 10 Resource(same as Destroyer in size) 1190Ru's
10 Super cap and 4 Non Com (same as super cap in size)
1400Ru's
2 Command
600Ru's


4030Ru's for up grades to somtaaw craft.
and 1200Ru's for the non somtaaw craft, the increased cost is do to having to add a controle system to the new craft.

And your new order will be started on now for the fighters and after Menelmacar's on any thing larger.

As for the missile system I figured it was a given considering most destroyers I sell have one and the Dreadnought packs 6.

The difrence on Torps are.
Much bigger and slowere then Missiles but much more powerful, best for Capship killing.
Torp racks are non replensing Torps that you can mount on a fighter or vet/gunship class ship.
The pocket destroyer is a Assualt frigate armed with the Ion cannons of a destroyer, how ever it loses it's plasmabomb launching capabiltys as well as it 4 massdrivers in place of it. Think very fast (compared to a destroyer) thin skined destroyer.
Oh and how to incorprate a missile system look at the "Deacon" Destroyer it's mounted right on top of the hull. You see it's not an upgrade it's just somthing we sell that has the usefull option of building it's own ammo on the fly.
Menelmacar
11-08-2003, 16:45
On the amenities: All the craft, and yes, just non-crucial systems. :) Our crews have high standards for on-board creature comforts.

*snuggles big fuggin' budget* Any way we could get a bulk discount, down to, say, 1.35 trillion?

http://www.weirdozone.0catch.com/projects/nationstates/sirithil/sirithilnosfeanor.gifLady Sirithil nos Fëanor
Elentári of the Eternal Noldorin Empire of Menelmacar
High Queen and Lady Protector of Elvenkind
"We can't go around supporting the Goodness of All Things. We might be mistaken for Menelmacar."
~Education Minister Lobon, Kn-Yan
Clicky-clicky! We Love The Iraqi Information Minister (www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com)


Of course we can drop the price considering the amount of Ru's saved in not adding alot of the interior on the ships in fact the reduced cost would drop yout total to . 1,281,439,400,385.29 USD our miners spend so much time out there a good 30% of the interior crew section is ste aside for comfort.
Excellent. :D *elfsnuggles for the nice Hiigarans*

We'll wire the downpayment immediately then.

~Siri
Blademasters
11-08-2003, 17:36
We would like to order One vengeance Assault Frigate to complement our fledgling space fleet
OOC: Go homeworld!
BIC: money will be wired apon confirmation
12-08-2003, 03:54
Okay sounds fine.
sends 5230Ru's.

O and thanks fore the info.
Might want to put the info on the sales page fore all the other boneheads out there. ;)

Edit:how dose a modefyde "Assault Frigate" compare to a "Firelance" Ion Cannon Frigate?
Whats the difrence?
The Assault Frigate is orginaly a little bit faster and 75 RUs cheape and 2000 tons heawyer.

Edit2:Do it still hawe the 4(1) Large Projectile Cannon Turrets 4,800 m 2.9 s after the upgrade?
Dosent say anny thing about them in the info.
So is thath the difrence?
It still got anti fighter turrets?
Maby the ion cannon isent of the same strenght as the firlance?

Edit3: :? :?
But you said:

The pocket destroyer is a Assualt frigate armed with the Ion cannons of a destroyer, how ever it loses it's plasmabomb launching capabiltys as well as it 4 massdrivers in place of it. Think very fast (compared to a destroyer) thin skined destroyer.
12-08-2003, 10:00
How dose a fire lance compaire to an modified assult frigate well first off the fire lance will have only one beam whereas the MAS will have two. Second the MAS will be heaver due to the increased weight of the destroyers Ion cannon coil. How ever it will be much faster due to the Destroyers drives and power core which is required to powere the destroyer class Ion cannons.Lastly being a destroyers weapons system you get a small amount of pivot alloing for a higher amount of coverage % over a firelance's. Think of it like this it's most of the powere of a destroyer but it will cost less to mataine then a destroyer due to smaller hull and crew.

Am I making sence?

The rest of your post is kind of confusing, but no the MAS looses all other weapons.

Also your Command ships and half your fleet are upgraded.

Blademasters:Yes it dose and your ship will be ready in a few days(rl)

Illior:Your craft are ready.

Menelmacar: *blush* Why thank you. Your controlers wil ber ready ahead of schudule due to the reduced amount of work abough a third is ready for pick up and all repaire bots and there docking bays are ready and have been loaded in to 25 of your bulk transports for you as the leaches have been loaded in to another 10 of them.

We can keep them within the Arrora storage yards for you untill the whole order is ready or you can pick them up now if need be. All ships have been built to your ships specks and colors.
13-08-2003, 04:16
Menelmacar: I got board today so I made a simple Doga image of what I thhink a Gravship might look like.

http://mysite.verizon.net/res6xz0v/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/gravship.jpg

I also needed an excuse to see if this site Verizon was holding for me could Off-site link.

Nach I can see it but can everyone else?
13-08-2003, 08:06
Yes it is cool loking. :)

Then back to my anoying qestions.
Why bother with a fire lance when a modifyd assult frigate are so mutch better on all points.
Ore are the firelance better at somthing?
Are the fire lance better at annything?
If not why still produce it?
13-08-2003, 08:22
It's not better on all points just most of them the Firelance is cheaper to build and has cheaper up-keep cost. The down side is probly somthing like manuvering is greatly decreased and stress on the hull is probly a lot highter. Truthfully I think the cost of some of LLR's upgrades should be higher. I mean 5 Ru's for half the fire power of a destroyer is way to low. it should be like double the cost of the frigate.
13-08-2003, 08:55
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13-08-2003, 12:16
Confermed, how ever the Marine Corvette upgrade is only avable on the Kushan Heavy Corvette, the rest is fine. most of the order will be starting friday to saterday, the Command class ship Kuun-Lan will be started now and will be ready in a week or so.
Menelmacar
13-08-2003, 17:52
Menelmacar: I got board today so I made a simple Doga image of what I thhink a Gravship might look like.
Nice pic! :) Not quite what I had in mind though. Still, very nice pic.

~Siri
14-08-2003, 02:49
Is thath runways on the ship?
If it is it reminds me of maccross and the other one...
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-08-2003, 02:52
Well, if you don't want Holzfeller, I will take it. The LRRSV Holzfeller will be comissioned soon. It will be the 80th in the Olaf Palme class of patrol/science frigates.
14-08-2003, 05:45
Olof palme?
A fellow sv perhaps?
14-08-2003, 07:16
Glad you liked it Menelmacar ,did't think it would be right but was I close?

Yah the are like runways, one for takeoffs and landings or perhaps they can do both, eather way the image is up for grabs.
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-08-2003, 18:02
Olaf palme was a superliberal Swedish prime minister who was shot dead in the mid- 80's. From what I hear he was a pretty popular guy.
Trailers
14-08-2003, 18:14
'ey Somtaaw,these Ion Frigates kick ass.Keep it up.
14-08-2003, 18:17
1 Command Squad of Repair Bots
Money Wired And I'll Assign Them To My Fleet!
14-08-2003, 22:35
Glad to here your geting some use of them just rember your population most likely won't like being targets.

Command squad of repair bots? I presum you meen you want enough repair bots for a command class ship. They'll be ready by tommarow.
Lunatic Retard Robots
14-08-2003, 23:49
Somtaaw, we are proud to be your ally.
15-08-2003, 01:20
Why thank you. But what makes you say that?
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-08-2003, 01:24
The fact that your ships are so nice. I dunno. I think you deserved some gratification.

Here's another upgrade, though.

10. Fragmentation Missiles
Upgrades missiles on the missile launcher to have fragmentation warheads controlled by proximity to targets. Very useful against fighters.

And, ok. New cost of upgrades-300 RUs.
15-08-2003, 01:31
AH well thanks but I did't do much. I put the new info up right now.
Lunatic Retard Robots
15-08-2003, 01:52
Thanks.
15-08-2003, 02:17
Somtaaw and LRR?
Can I commission you guys to build me a thing not on yer list, namely, a Modified Kushan Mothership?
Gurguvungunit
15-08-2003, 02:23
GAAAAAAAAAH!
:oops: Posted with me other nation. [stormtroopers]
can you do the mothership for me? :oops: :oops: :oops:
15-08-2003, 05:14
i need 50 Somtaaw "Acolyte" Heavy Fighter. How much for all of them?
two Hiigaran Crew/bulkcargo Transport. How much?
Im in no need to rush. The scape have about 30 - 40 to be done.

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15-08-2003, 06:14
Olaf palme was a superliberal Swedish prime minister who was shot dead in the mid- 80's. From what I hear he was a pretty popular guy.
Ewen more popular after he was shot...
15-08-2003, 06:35
LLR' Options can be applyed to craft listed
All Upgrades-300 RUs

1. Ion Drones
Upgrades the drones of the Puppeteer frigate with ion cannons or nuclear blasters, adding serious anti-capitol ship power to a previously underarmed craft.

2.Torpedo Rack
Adds torpedo carrying capacity to the following craft:
Kushan Heavy Corvette
Acolyte
Super Acolytes Mk.1 and 2
ACV
Assault Frigates

3. Docking bay
A small (one corvette) docking bay that fits over the airlock of Super Capitol ships without a docking bay.

4. Assault Rails
Adds metal rails to the sides of your frigates on which marines can be carried.

5. Torpedo launchers
They replace the plasma bomb launchers in assault frigates with torpedo bays.

6. Escape Pods
They give all fighter/corvette ships an eject system which will work provided the pilots are in full suits at the time of ejection.

7. Marine Corvette
Seperates drive nozzle of the Kushan Heavy Corvette into two parts and adds a compartment that can hold 25 fully equipped marines with a cargo door/airlock on the space between the divided nozzles.

8.Pocket Destroyer
Adds two ion cannons to the Vengance class or Kuudark Class Assault Frigates in place of the plasma bomb launchers. That means the plasma bomb launchers MUST BE REMOVED to accomodate the ion cannons. This upgrade is NOT compadible with the flak frigate as of yet, and if you already have the torpedo bay upgrade installed, you have to remove it for this one.

9. Spy Pod
Removes breaching gear in Leech Pod and replaces it with a small, one-man cockpit. Excellent for infiltration missions, where you can load a marine into them and launch a stealth boarding party, or rescue missions where the Leech Pod can pick up a stranded pilot or defector.

10. Fragmentation Missiles
Upgrades missiles on the missile launcher to have fragmentation warheads controlled by proximity to targets. Very useful against fighters.
I think 300 ru fore most of the upgrades are too mutch.
Shure keep it if it is a major rebulding effort, but 300 ru fore:
2.Torpedo Rack
4. Assault Rails
Is rediculus.

And other s like the:
1. Ion Drones
3. Docking bay
5. Torpedo launchers
6. Escape Pods
7. Marine Corvette
9. Spy Pod
10. Fragmentation Missiles
Is too mutch.
you can get whole new craft fore 300 ru.
Ore sewral in some cases.
Eridanus
15-08-2003, 06:42
I'm not Hiigaran. I played the game though, gets kinda hard towards the end.
Eridanus
15-08-2003, 06:48
SUPER ACOLYTE PLANS FOR SALE!!!!!
15-08-2003, 07:30
Realy? :shock:
Gimme. :)
How much do you want fore the plans? :twisted:
15-08-2003, 07:48
Furry_wolf2001b: Good Idea, what do you think LLR?

Wolf Kingdom: 20,117,637,940.50 USD.

Gurguvungunit: What sort of Modfications were you thinking of?
15-08-2003, 08:08
My thoughts on prices:
2.Torpedo Rack
4. Assault Rails
ca 5-10 Ru

6. Escape Pods
9. Spy Pod
10. Fragmentation Missiles
ca 10-20 ru

1. Ion Drones
3. Docking bay
5. Torpedo launchers
7. Marine Corvette
Ca 50 ru

Your thoughts?
Might be a litle too litle in some cases but adjust upp to whath you think is right.
Culd perhaps keep the 300 ru fore the 8.Pocket Destroyer becuse it sounds like a major refit in somtaaws post.
15-08-2003, 08:10
Ore maby the prises shuld be somthing like this?
15
25
60
15-08-2003, 08:20
Are you willing to sell the specs for the archangel class dreadnought minus its weapons and defensive systems? im needing a large transport vessel for my newly created fleet and if i can get something big in there it will be a good mothership since i dont want to have an offensive fleet.
15-08-2003, 08:22
ISounds good to me, keep this up Furry_wolf and I might have to give you some ships for helping to iron out the kinks with this thread.http://forums.relicnews.com/images/smiley/hw.gif
15-08-2003, 08:27
Are you willing to sell the specs for the archangel class dreadnought minus its weapons and defensive systems? im needing a large transport vessel for my newly created fleet and if i can get something big in there it will be a good mothership since i dont want to have an offensive fleet.

If you want a transport Check out the Ship listed under Non-Com. It's as large as the carriers I use.
15-08-2003, 08:33
very well then, id like to order two of your bulk cargo ships. are they pre built or are they built as ordered? the money will arrive by phisical trasport instead of being wired. where should i have it sent to?
15-08-2003, 08:37
There is a basic open cargo area, but it can be ajusted by us by reguest or you can make your own changes your self.
15-08-2003, 08:45
the ships are on their way now. they will arrive prety soon. ive basically created giant engines and called them ships. accelerations is fueled by hydrogen as well so i have fitted scoops all around it. the thing can basically accelerate to a point faster than you would if you hyperspaced to it but unfortunately since weapons wuould add extra mass they have been left out. also, the acceleration would also kill humans so i cant have them manned. its basically a one way transport since it just gets launched then keeps going. jusy hit the back of it with something to hit the failsafe. it will fire its engines in full reverse at which point you can catch the thing and disable it. you can keep it if you want. the thing is mass produced incredibly cheaply. just send the ships in the direction mine came from at maximum thrust and ill board them as they pass. considering the size they cant be too hard to latch on to