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Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

That's increasingly looking like those moments in anime in which an opponent is all but dead and attacks the other guy, while said other guy warns him to stop before he loses his life.

Really.

Mustard? REALLY? The GOP is THAT FUCKING DESPERATE?

Furthermore, the Party of the guy that tortured wrong info out of someone to use it for a war that shouldn't have been waged is raving about mustard?

Mustard, GOP?

Seriously?

politico is reporting that when the RNC meets next week they will pass the resolution to rename the democratic party the democrat socialist party.

senator sessions accused mr obama of deliberately tanking the economy in order to grab more power for himself. rush limbaugh jumped on this bandwagon

this must be some kind of phase they are going through. maybe once they get it out of their system they can start being sane again.

Obviously this proves that Obama is an ebil mozlem terrorist.



FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORT SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPTER!

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?
Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity =/= US Republican Party.

Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity =/= US Republican Party.Actually, Ingraham and Hannity are quite good surrogates for the US Republican Party. What they say tends to be a good approximation of the what the bulk of the Republicans are thinking.

Wow that's stupid, but I lol'd at this.

This has Barry Levenson, founder and curator of the Mt. Horeb Mustard Museum, shaking his head. The museum, just west of Madison, Wis., features more than 5,000 mustards, the largest such collection in the world.

A Mustard Museum? Seriously? lol.

Obviously this proves that Obama is an ebil mozlem terrorist.



FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORT SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPTER!

No, hes an elitist sbil mozlem terrorist.

Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity =/= US Republican Party.
nope

rush limbaugh is.

Obviously this proves that Obama is an ebil mozlem terrorist.



FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORT SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPTER!

Ok... wtf is this thing about Fort Sumpter? I keep hearing about it and, although I'm sure it's been explained before, I've missed said explanation. So, kuso onegai, WTF is Fort Sumpter? <_<

Actually, Ingraham and Hannity are quite good surrogates for the US Republican Party. What they say tends to be a good approximation of the what the bulk of the Republicans are thinking.
Well, until the day when they are officially sanctioned to be so, I'm not going to take them as spokespersons for the party. What's printed in The Daily Telegraph is good approximation of the what the bulk of the Tories are thinking, but I'm not going to take everything that appears in its columns as Conservative party policy.

The real issue here, of course, is why Paul Eddington only appears to be known in the US as some English guy in a mustard advert, and not as the best damn public servant to sit in Westminster, the Rt. Hon. Jim Hackett, MP.

Yes, Minister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWlCGSoYkFo&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=4007E473402A0A45&index=2)

Yes, Prime Minister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=4007E473402A0A45)

What's printed in The Daily Telegraph is good approximation of the what the bulk of the Tories are thinking, but I'm not going to take everything that appears in its columns as Conservative party policy.
Nobody claimed this was "policy".

Mustard? REALLY?
Slow news day huh? :p

Ok... wtf is this thing about Fort Sumpter? I keep hearing about it and, although I'm sure it's been explained before, I've missed said explanation. So, kuso onegai, WTF is Fort Sumpter? <_<

The southern armies fired on Fort Sumpter, thus beginning the civil war. The suggestion is that Obama is the starting point for a civil war.

politico is reporting that when the RNC meets next week they will pass the resolution to rename the democratic party the democrat socialist party.

senator sessions accused mr obama of deliberately tanking the economy in order to grab more power for himself. rush limbaugh jumped on this bandwagon

Source for both, please. I'd not put either past the Republican scum, but source.

The southern armies fired on Fort Sumpter, thus beginning the civil war. The suggestion is that Obama is the starting point for a civil war.

And a poster here went all "Fort Sumter" when Obama got elected...

Nobody claimed this was "policy".
No, not the point dear chap; Heikoku claimed that this was the doing of the GOP.

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

That's increasingly looking like those moments in anime in which an opponent is all but dead and attacks the other guy, while said other guy warns him to stop before he loses his life.

Really.

Mustard? REALLY? The GOP is THAT FUCKING DESPERATE?

Furthermore, the Party of the guy that tortured wrong info out of someone to use it for a war that shouldn't have been waged is raving about mustard?

Mustard, GOP?

Seriously?
This is one of those things that is just too trivial to hold on to. Let it go.

We should be concentrating on why he doesn't use ketchup. Must be the unfavorable political connotations that would come with the color red. Clearly, he's a closet Socialist!

Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity =/= US Republican Party.

You mean the Party that wants to rename Democrats Socialists?

That Party?

Heh.

This is one of those things that is just too trivial to hold on to. Let it go.

Tell that to Hannity. For that matter, has he accepted being waterboarded like he said he would yet?

Tell that to Hannity. For that matter, has he accepted being waterboarded like he said he would yet?
We don't talk... But how about the absence of ketchup? Huh? Explain that away.

We don't talk... But how about the absence of ketchup? Huh? Explain that away.

MAN I could eat a hot-dog right now...

MAN I could eat a hot-dog right now...
With ketchup? Ugh. Proper hot dogs are done with mustard and sauerkraut. Or mustard and onions. But never, NEVER ketchup. That would be communist.

With ketchup? Ugh. Proper hot dogs are done with mustard and sauerkraut. Or mustard and onions. But never, NEVER ketchup. That would be communist.

*Eats a hot-dog with a sickle-shaped sausage and hammer-shaped fries.*

With ketchup? Ugh. Proper hot dogs are done with mustard and sauerkraut. Or mustard and onions. But never, NEVER ketchup. That would be communist.

What about relish?

Source for both, please. I'd not put either past the Republican scum, but source.
If it helps, HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) has lead on both stories in days past; they'll be on there somewhere.

You mean the Party that wants to rename Democrats Socialists?

That Party?
Um, yeah.

Sean Hannity isn't the GOP. Neither is Laura Ingraham.

Source for both, please. I'd not put either past the Republican scum, but source.
oh sure. here ya go:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/11/pete-sessions-obama-hurti_n_201562.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/11/sessions-limbaugh-unemployment/

enjoy!

A Mustard Museum? Seriously? lol.
I relish the thought of visiting a mustard museum but I might get into a pickle with my wife if I don't ketchup on my honey dew list first. :p

politico is reporting that when the RNC meets next week they will pass the resolution to rename the democratic party the democrat socialist party.

senator sessions accused mr obama of deliberately tanking the economy in order to grab more power for himself. rush limbaugh jumped on this bandwagon

this must be some kind of phase they are going through. maybe once they get it out of their system they can start being sane again.

Everyone goes through this phase.




Normally, a year or more before they go to 'big school'.

What about relish?
Good catch. I don't personally like sweet pickles, but it's not ketchup.

You can also have chili, slaw, cheese and combinations of them. See the Varsity menu for all approved combinations.
http://www.thevarsity.com/menus/The_Varsity_Downtown_Menu.pdf

They're so desperate to be relevant again that it's embarrassing.

oh sure. here ya go:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/11/pete-sessions-obama-hurti_n_201562.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/11/sessions-limbaugh-unemployment/

enjoy!

Ah, Republicans.

I hope they end soon. They ceased to be entertaining.

oh sure. here ya go:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/11/pete-sessions-obama-hurti_n_201562.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/11/sessions-limbaugh-unemployment/

enjoy!

Wow. Rush let Steele out to play?

You have to give them credit. Why look like losers when you can be pathetic losers.

The rate they are going; it will be another 20 or so years before they get a hold of Congress again.

Ah, Republicans.

I hope they end soon. They ceased to be entertaining.

Galloism say:

As much as I dislike the republican party as it has turned out, a one-party state is doomed to stupidity by default. Republican, democrat, whigs, or The Great Clown Party, if they're the only game in town, then stupidity will ensue. There's no one to object.

They're so desperate to be relevant again that it's embarrassing.

No kidding. It would be nice if they accepted their demise with dignity instead of thrashing about.

No, not the point dear chap; Heikoku claimed that this was the doing of the GOP.
Much as you would refer to an idiocy in the Daily Telegraph as something the Tories were saying.

Galloism say:

As much as I dislike the republican party as it has turned out, a one-party state is doomed to stupidity by default. Republican, democrat, whigs, or The Great Clown Party, if they're the only game in town, then stupidity will ensue. There's no one to object.

Then let there be Democrats and a further-left party. I'm tired of the American Right.

Ah, Republicans.

I hope they end soon. They ceased to be entertaining.
they seem to be having a problem with accepting that the public no longer buys their brand of scare-conservatism and is no longer willing to vote against their own best interest so they can be "safe".

it doesnt help that boss limbaugh (to borrow keith olbermann's name for him) is insisting that the party needs to be MORE conservative and to drive out anyone who might remotely qualify as moderate. no one in the party has the balls to stand up to limbaugh right now.

Wow. Rush let Steele out to play?

You have to give them credit. Why look like losers when you can be pathetic losers.

The rate they are going; it will be another 20 or so years before they get a hold of Congress again.
It wouldn't matter much if it were 2 years, instead of 20, they'd still screw up the opportunity.

Actually, Ingraham and Hannity are quite good surrogates for the US Republican Party. What they say tends to be a good approximation of the what the bulk of the Republicans are thinking.
Because unfortunately they have become the "thinking brain dogs" for a significant part of the population who can't or don't want to think for themselves.

Much as you would refer to an idiocy in the Daily Telegraph as something the Tories were saying.
No I wouldn't.

Hence the point I'm making.

Then let there be Democrats and a further-left party. I'm tired of the American Right.

Galloism say:

When you live in the US, you get to complain about our political parties. As it is, *I* have that right. What we need is a libertarian party... small government, high social freedom.

Mmmmm...I love Dijon mustard :)

Galloism say:

As much as I dislike the republican party as it has turned out, a one-party state is doomed to stupidity by default. Republican, democrat, whigs, or The Great Clown Party, if they're the only game in town, then stupidity will ensue. There's no one to object.
the republicans will continue to be a force as long as there needs to be a place where newbie politicians can go to get on the freaking ballot. once the democrats have all the seats, the only way to maybe get into office will be to run as a republican (even if you arent ultraconservative.)

Well if anything, this thread has helped me decide what to have for lunch/dinner tomorrow.

they seem to be having a problem with accepting that the public no longer buys their brand of scare-conservatism and is no longer willing to vote against their own best interest so they can be "safe".
Although a significant minority still do, if the last election is anything to go by.

Galloism say:

When you live in the US, you get to complain about our political parties. As it is, *I* have that right. What we need is a libertarian party... small government, high social freedom.

Galloism is - unfortunately - talking nonsense.

Anyone, anywhere, gets to complain about anyone's government, anywhere.

I don't personally think those conversations should be taking place at the highest levels as policy-making, but everyone has the right to say that the UK's BNP are crackers, and the current GOP are thrashing about in a most uncivilized fashion.

I want France to pick a more centrist government, for example.

The limit of that rule is voting - I don't get to vote in their elections.

Sean Hannity isn't the GOP. Neither is Laura Ingraham.

though there is a fair case to be made that rush limbaugh is. i'm not sure if he's weighed in personally, but his guest host did.

Laura Ingraham and Sean Hannity =/= US Republican Party.

No, that would be Rush Limbaugh.

Although a significant minority still do, if the last election is anything to go by.
yes.

but in the US a significant minority is irrelevant. they cant win elections.

although a rational republican candidate can win the presidency in the future because that is more of a personality contest judged on the individual record and policies of the candidates rather than the platform of the party. .... well only if s/he can get past the nutcase base of the party in the primaries....they really are doomed.

Galloism say:
Galloism is - unfortunately - talking nonsense.

Tends to happen after a few drinks. Nanatsu is keeping me drunk. I think she wants to take advantage of me.

Anyone, anywhere, gets to complain about anyone's government, anywhere.

In that case - I'm going to complain about Australia's government. I think they've lost it.

I don't personally think those conversations should be taking place at the highest levels as policy-making, but everyone has the right to say that the UK's BNP are crackers, and the current GOP are thrashing about in a most uncivilized fashion.

I'll grant that. The BNP are crackers, after all. However, I wouldn't call for all their demise. I mostly would call for their general mockery.

The limit of that rule is voting - I don't get to vote in their elections.

Unless you commit voter fraud. :p

Galloism say:

When you live in the US, you get to complain about our political parties.

That would hold true if the US KEPT TO ITS BORDERS.

As it is, anyone gets to complain.

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

That's increasingly looking like those moments in anime in which an opponent is all but dead and attacks the other guy, while said other guy warns him to stop before he loses his life.

Really.

Mustard? REALLY? The GOP is THAT FUCKING DESPERATE?

Furthermore, the Party of the guy that tortured wrong info out of someone to use it for a war that shouldn't have been waged is raving about mustard?

Mustard, GOP?

Seriously?
The GOP ceased being serious or relevant the day they appointed Steele "hip hop" head of the party (seriously, they didn't have any actually serious black members of the Republican party?) and then bent over for talking heads.

I'd like to suggest that the Democrat Socialist Party adopt a resolution re-branding the Republican Party as the Baby-Eating Puppy-Kicking Pedophile Sons of Bitches Party.

Galloism say:
Tends to happen after a few drinks. Nanatsu is keeping me drunk. I think she wants to take advantage of me.


*whispers* That's because she's evil!

;)


In that case - I'm going to complain about Australia's government. I think they've lost it.


I think they've gotten increasingly erratic in the last couple of years, certainly.


I'll grant that. The BNP are crackers, after all. However, I wouldn't call for all their demise. I mostly would call for their general mockery.


As a nation, we've done a damn sight more than 'calling for demise' of other nation's governments, in recent years. That's obviously too far. But saying you'd really like to see Chavez out of power, or the Tories win an election... not a problem.


Unless you commit voter fraud. :p

As SOON as I typed it and hit enter - it occured to me that some DO (of course) live outside of a nation, but remain involved in politics. Just because you live in the US, doesn't mean you're not eligible to vote in French elections.

politico is reporting that when the RNC meets next week they will pass the resolution to rename the democratic party the democrat socialist party.

senator sessions accused mr obama of deliberately tanking the economy in order to grab more power for himself. rush limbaugh jumped on this bandwagon

this must be some kind of phase they are going through. maybe once they get it out of their system they can start being sane again.

You mean that awkward phase that started after Lincoln was shot? Yeah. I'm sure that will come to a close any day now.

The Republicans' problem is they're stuck in something of a J curve.

A little over 20% of the people identify as Republican right now.

This means that people identify as Republican at about the same rate that Dentists recommend sugary chewing gum.

The people that they've got now are all that's keeping them afloat. They can't afford to lose that base. But, it's not enough to win elections. If they try to get votes from the Not-crazy people, they lose their base, the Crazy people. And though there are roughly four times as many not-crazy people as crazy (the other 80%), that used to be enough for Republicans, because in general, it was the craziest people who voted. And they voted disproportionately Republican.

While the vote is still disproportionately Republican, it is no longer a majority now that more not-crazy people are voting and more of the Crazy people are turning out to be Not-that-crazy.

So now there's a rift between Republicans who want to make the crazy sound not-that-crazy to win back the Not-that-crazy voters, and the Republicans who want to make the not-that-crazy sound crazy so they can start to embrace sound policy without losing the Crazy base.

This seems to be an effort by the former group who want to maintain the current level of insanity within the Republican party by trying to make the Not-that-crazy voters feel like they are on the fence by telling them that they are half-way between the party of torture and the party of people who like mustard and that torture and eating mustard are equally bad policies. So they may as well go with the crazy party that wants to lower taxes.

Source on that statistic above. Go to item 901. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_042609.html)

I'd like to suggest that the Democrat Socialist Party adopt a resolution re-branding the Republican Party as the Baby-Eating Puppy-Kicking Pedophile Sons of Bitches Party.

I suggest they rename the GOP as 'Placeholders for a Real Second Party'.

That would hold true if the US KEPT TO ITS BORDERS.

As it is, anyone gets to complain.

Galloism say:

You're so very angry. Are lots of capitals really needed?

Have we invaded Brazil recently? I mean, other than the CIA and various special forces teams that have performed insertions, which you will remain consistently suspicious that it happened, but cannot prove it with certainty.

Nana: Heiko-kun, perdona. El nene necesita cachaza.

I'd like to suggest that the Democrat Socialist Party adopt a resolution re-branding the Republican Party as the Baby-Eating Puppy-Kicking Pedophile Sons of Bitches Party.

What about "Republican Nazi Pedophile Party"?

Galloism say:

*whispers* That's because she's evil!

;)

*nod* It can be proven mathematically.

As a nation, we've done a damn sight more than 'calling for demise' of other nation's governments, in recent years. That's obviously too far. But saying you'd really like to see Chavez out of power, or the Tories win an election... not a problem.

True. We have actively participated in making it so. That wasn't really right of us - most of the time. It usually blows up in our face too.

As SOON as I typed it and hit enter - it occured to me that some DO (of course) live outside of a nation, but remain involved in politics. Just because you live in the US, doesn't mean you're not eligible to vote in French elections.

You think along the same lines as a drunken Floridian (me!). Does that bother you much?

Galloism say:

You're so very angry. Are lots of capitals really needed?

Have we invaded Brazil recently? I mean, other than the CIA and various special forces teams that have performed insertions, which you will remain consistently suspicious that it happened, but cannot prove it with certainty.

Nana: Heiko-kun, perdona. El nene necesita cachaza.

? Like, MÁS cachaza? o_O

Galloism say:

You're so very angry. Are lots of capitals really needed?

Have we invaded Brazil recently? I mean, other than the CIA and various special forces teams that have performed insertions, which you will remain consistently suspicious that it happened, but cannot prove it with certainty.

Nana: Heiko-kun, perdona. El nene necesita cachaza.

We? Since when are you in the US?

? Like, MÁS cachaza? o_O

Uma caipirinha nun le vendria nan de mal. :D

You mean that awkward phase that started after Lincoln was shot? Yeah. I'm sure that will come to a close any day now.

The Republicans' problem is they're stuck in something of a J curve.

A little over 20% of the people identify as Republican right now.

This means that people identify as Republican at about the same rate that Dentists recommend sugary chewing gum.

The people that they've got now are all that's keeping them afloat. They can't afford to lose that base. But, it's not enough to win elections. If they try to get votes from the Not-crazy people, they lose their base, the Crazy people. And though there are roughly four times as many not-crazy people as crazy (the other 80%), that used to be enough for Republicans, because in general, it was the craziest people who voted. And they voted disproportionately Republican.

While the vote is still disproportionately Republican, it is no longer a majority now that more not-crazy people are voting and more of the Crazy people are turning out to be Not-that-crazy.

So now there's a rift between Republicans who want to make the crazy sound not-that-crazy to win back the Not-that-crazy voters, and the Republicans who want to make the not-that-crazy sound crazy so they can start to embrace sound policy without losing the Crazy base.

This seems to be an effort by the former group who want to maintain the current level of insanity within the Republican party by trying to make the Not-that-crazy voters feel like they are on the fence by telling them that they are half-way between the party of torture and the party of people who like mustard and that torture and eating mustard are equally bad policies. So they may as well go with the crazy party that wants to lower taxes.

Source on that statistic above. Go to item 901. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_042609.html)
yeah that phase.

they really are between a rock and a hard place.

but one good rational candidate for president can change that. sure there isnt one on the horizon right now but there could be one by the time the next election comes around --of course if s/he is rational s/he wont even consider wasting his/her chance by going up against a popular president.

We? Since when are you in the US?

Em... I am in FL. But the truth of the matter is that Galloism has hijacked my account and is drunk babbling and driving me crazy. So... yes, WE.:$

What about "Republican Nazi Pedophile Party"?

That's not really assinine enough to deliver my point, unfortunately.

I'd like to suggest that the Democrat Socialist Party adopt a resolution re-branding the Republican Party as the Baby-Eating Puppy-Kicking Pedophile Sons of Bitches Party.

while the gentleman from boston's heart is in the right place, i suggest instead that the democrat socialist party adopt a binding resolution that merely says

"really? do you guys want to be seen as a sad joke of a party? you are aware we're in a bit of a crisis here, yes?"

Galloism say:



*nod* It can be proven mathematically.


Isn't that the math that proves ALL girls are evil?


True. We have actively participated in making it so. That wasn't really right of us - most of the time. It usually blows up in our face too.


Indeed. We really have yet to learn that 'foreign policy' lesson.

We've a history of thinking we're incredibly Machiavellian, smug in our self-confident manipulation of other nations and powers, rubbing our hands together as we pit them one against another, and congratulating ourselves as we arm our enemy's enemies.

And then we look all surprised when they turn around and bite us in the ass. And not in the good way.


You think along the same lines as a drunken Floridian (me!). Does that bother you much?

When I imagine the map of the American psyche, I can drop my thumbtack anywhere. I could end up in drunk-florida, or I could end up alongside someone like Michele Bachmann. Just for example. I'll take drunk-florida anytime.

Well, until the day when they are officially sanctioned to be so, I'm not going to take them as spokespersons for the party. What's printed in The Daily Telegraph is good approximation of the what the bulk of the Tories are thinking, but I'm not going to take everything that appears in its columns as Conservative party policy.

The real issue here, of course, is why Paul Eddington only appears to be known in the US as some English guy in a mustard advert, and not as the best damn public servant to sit in Westminster, the Rt. Hon. Jim Hackett, MP.

Yes, Minister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWlCGSoYkFo&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=4007E473402A0A45&index=2)

Yes, Prime Minister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=4007E473402A0A45)

...wait, the Grey Poupon ads had Paul Eddington in them? I totally never noticed! Now I actually want to buy Grey Poupon or something!

*is American and owns the complete DVDs of both Yes, Minsiter and Yes, Prime Minister*

What about "Republican Nazi Pedophile Party"?

Naziism would probably get them too many votes.

Galloism say:

Isn't that the math that proves ALL girls are evil?

I see you are familiar with my formulas.

Indeed. We really have yet to learn that 'foreign policy' lesson.

We've a history of thinking we're incredibly Machiavellian, smug in our self-confident manipulation of other nations and powers, rubbing our hands together as we pit them one against another, and congratulating ourselves as we arm our enemy's enemies.

And then we look all surprised when they turn around and bite us in the ass. And not in the good way.

That pretty much sums it up.

When I imagine the map of the American psyche, I can drop my thumbtack anywhere. I could end up in drunk-florida, or I could end up alongside someone like Michele Bachmann. Just for example. I'll take drunk-florida anytime.

That's pretty bad. You should stick with "drunken floridian". At least we're fun at parties, although usually an ambulance and an exorcist must be called later.

Galloism say:
I see you are familiar with my formulas.


I think I've seen that kind of calculation before. Something about time and money.


That's pretty bad. You should stick with "drunken floridian". At least we're fun at parties, although usually an ambulance and an exorcist must be called later.

Michele Bachmann could be fun at a party. Imagine if Michael Vick was invited, and he'd brought a rabid dog with him, too...

I'd like to suggest that the Democrat Socialist Party adopt a resolution re-branding the Republican Party as the Baby-Eating Puppy-Kicking Pedophile Sons of Bitches Party.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/NS%20forum%20macros/katsseal.jpg

...wait, the Grey Poupon ads had Paul Eddington in them?
And Ian Richardson of Brazil fame.

*is American and owns the complete DVDs of both Yes, Minsiter and Yes, Prime Minister*
*hugs*

This would be a great time for the Libertarian Party to be making some headway.

while the gentleman from boston's heart is in the right place, i suggest instead that the democrat socialist party adopt a binding resolution that merely says

"really? do you guys want to be seen as a sad joke of a party? you are aware we're in a bit of a crisis here, yes?"

It is only with absurdity that we can highlight absurdity.

No kidding. It would be nice if they accepted their demise with dignity instead of thrashing about.

Anyone remember when everyone thought the Democrat party was on their way out?

Then let there be Democrats and a further-left party. I'm tired of the American Right.

Yea, that'll go over great.

"I think we should do this."
"So do I, but I'd just change one little thing."
"Brilliant!"

Might as well not even have two parties if all they're going to do is perform fellatio on each other.

We need a real opposition to the Democrat Party, and a sane opposition.

It is only with absurdity that we can highlight absurdity.

Honestly the best thing the Democrats can do right now is not even pay attention. Just let the Republican Party trash about in the corner.

Yea, that'll go over great.

"I think we should do this."
"So do I, but I'd just change one little thing."
"Brilliant!"

Might as well not even have two parties if all they're going to do is perform fellatio on each other.

We need a real opposition to the Democrat Party, and a sane opposition.

Cute. Just about every nation outside the US is proof that there is, yes, quite further left than the Democratic Party.

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

That's increasingly looking like those moments in anime in which an opponent is all but dead and attacks the other guy, while said other guy warns him to stop before he loses his life.

Really.

Mustard? REALLY? The GOP is THAT FUCKING DESPERATE?

Furthermore, the Party of the guy that tortured wrong info out of someone to use it for a war that shouldn't have been waged is raving about mustard?

Mustard, GOP?

Seriously?

You know I see nothing about the GOP going on about this. (At least not in the link you sourced) all I see is one TV presenter (a member of the media mind you) harping on about this.

Where is the GOP?

Seriously? H2 is this best you have against the GOP? Something which isn't even them?

You know I see nothing about the GOP going on about this. (At least not in the link you sourced) all I see is one TV presenter (a member of the media mind you) harping on about this.

Where is the GOP?

Seriously? H2 is this best you have against the GOP? Something which isn't even them?

1- They are the voice of the conservative movement.

2- Ashmoria came up with something even sweeter that the GOP IS planning to do.

A Mustard Museum? Seriously? lol.

I'll tell you what, if I am ever in Madison, Wisconsin then I will be going to that museum.

In that case - I'm going to complain about Australia's government. I think they've lost it.

Please do but do it to Australia's so that we may rid ourselves of the freedom restricting, populist seeking, poor economic managing government.

Em... I am in FL. But the truth of the matter is that Galloism has hijacked my account and is drunk babbling and driving me crazy. So... yes, WE.:$

Oh...you should do something about that.

1- They are the voice of the conservative movement.

2- Ashmoria came up with something even sweeter that the GOP IS planning to do.

So they set GOP policy?

If it was a few leaders of the GOP saying this I would be more inclined to believe you, but not when it is the media talking.

Oh...you should do something about that.

Why?

So they set GOP policy?

If it was a few leaders of the GOP saying this I would be more inclined to believe you, but not when it is the media talking.

These folks might not have any authority in the GOP...
but they certainly have power. The power of influence. People like Hannity are very popular among conservatives, and Republicans tend to take their opinions very seriously.

You know I see nothing about the GOP going on about this. (At least not in the link you sourced) all I see is one TV presenter (a member of the media mind you) harping on about this.

Where is the GOP?

Seriously? H2 is this best you have against the GOP? Something which isn't even them?

Sean Hannity is one of the talking heads that really controls the GOP.

So they set GOP policy?

If it was a few leaders of the GOP saying this I would be more inclined to believe you, but not when it is the media talking.

Have you been listening to Republicans, lately?

Cheney says Limbaugh is more representative of the Republican party than someone like... Colin Powell.

Also, yellow mustard sucks ass for all but hotdogs, and maybe hamburgers. I don't but the shit to put on my sandwiches, and often not hamburgers.

Have you been listening to Republicans, lately?

Cheney says Limbaugh is more representative of the Republican party than someone like... Colin Powell.
sadly, he's right.

sadly, he's right.

It's true that people like Limbaugh are more representative of the current Republican party. Which is what I was trying to illustrate to BE.

You know I see nothing about the GOP going on about this. (At least not in the link you sourced) all I see is one TV presenter (a member of the media mind you) harping on about this.

Where is the GOP?

Seriously? H2 is this best you have against the GOP? Something which isn't even them?
Yeah, I tried to ring him up at post # 12. It would appear that H2 is a little over the top on this one for sure. This proves that extremism does exist on both sides of the ledger.

These folks might not have any authority in the GOP...
but they certainly have power. The power of influence. People like Hannity are very popular among conservatives, and Republicans tend to take their opinions very seriously.

So the stupid masses are stupid, the same can go for many Democrat supporters that simply believe what ever the media tells them.

So really fine say some conservatives are harping about BO wasting taxpayer money by going for the more expensive mustard but I wil be more inclined to believe it when top members of the GOP come out speaking against it. Maybe if we had some Republican senators talking about this it would make H2's rant more plausible.

We don't talk... But how about the absence of ketchup? Huh? Explain that away.

You know, the place that served the first hamburger still doesn't allow ketchup. Or mustard, for that matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis'_Lunch

You know I see nothing about the GOP going on about this. (At least not in the link you sourced) all I see is one TV presenter (a member of the media mind you) harping on about this.

Where is the GOP?

Seriously? H2 is this best you have against the GOP? Something which isn't even them?

It was Sean "Waterboard Me" Hannity? Oh, please. More interesting is the revelation of the Mt. Horeb Mustard Museum. :tongue:

So the stupid masses are stupid, the same can go for many Democrat supporters that simply believe what ever the media tells them.

So really fine say some conservatives are harping about BO wasting taxpayer money by going for the more expensive mustard but I wil be more inclined to believe it when top members of the GOP come out speaking against it. Maybe if we had some Republican senators talking about this it would make H2's rant more plausible.

People like Hannity are essentially top ranking GOP members. For fuck's sake, the RNC Chairman had to apologize to Rush Limbaugh for criticizing him.

People like Hannity are essentially top ranking GOP members. For fuck's sake, the RNC Chairman had to apologize to Rush Limbaugh for criticizing him.

He's not the only one.

Georgia's Phil Gingrey and South Carolina's Mark Sanford have also taken a wander along Rush's Walk of Shame.

Limbaugh is a stronger leadership figure in the GOP than anyone actually in the GOP.

Mmmmm...I love Dijon mustard :)

I prefer: https://hannaford.elsstore.com/app/images/product/large/07008008081l.jpg

He's not the only one.

Georgia's Phil Gingrey and South Carolina's Mark Sanford have also taken a wander along Rush's Walk of Shame.

Limbaugh is a stronger leadership figure in the GOP than anyone actually in the GOP.

Indeed. It's quite scary, really, who basically controls one of the two major parties in this country, even if it is currently doing quite poorly.

Galloism is - unfortunately - talking nonsense.

Anyone, anywhere, gets to complain about anyone's government, anywhere.

I don't personally think those conversations should be taking place at the highest levels as policy-making, but everyone has the right to say that the UK's BNP are crackers, and the current GOP are thrashing about in a most uncivilized fashion.

I want France to pick a more centrist government, for example.

The limit of that rule is voting - I don't get to vote in their elections.

You're right. I hate the Brazilian government, and think we should overthrow it to install a US friendly one. :p :tongue: :D

It's quite scary, really, who basically controls one of the two major parties in this country...
Hyperbole, much?

Indeed. It's quite scary, really, who basically controls one of the two major parties in this country, even if it is currently doing quite poorly.

Actually, it's quite heartening. Limbaugh preaches a specific kind of agenda that appeals to a specific market, which largely overlaps with extreme Bible Belt theocratic policy.

That means, Limbaugh speaks directly to about 13% of the population.

Why is this heartening? Because, in this Limbaugh-Republican model, the party can only claim 20% of the population as willing to admit approval.

Which means about 30% of the market (if you believe the two parties are roughly balanced)... are NON-Rush Republican conservatives.

Hyperbole, much?

Limbaugh has more clout in the GOP than Steele. Why is it hyperbole?

Limbaugh has more clout in the GOP than Steele. Why is it hyperbole?
Because no matter how much his voice is heard as representative of a large section of the GOP's supporters, Limbaugh does not "basically control" the party.

He may have clout, but he doesn't have power.

Because no matter how much his voice is heard as representative of a large section of the GOP's supporters, Limbaugh does not "basically control" the party.

He may have clout, but he doesn't have power.

But he can drive the conversation taking place inside the party by the issues he chooses. And given that several high-ranking members of the party have apologized publicly to him after voicing some criticism, I'd say he has actual power.

But he can drive the conversation taking place inside the party by the issues he chooses.
Can he really, on an effective level?

Sure, he's able to whip up popular support within a certain group of GOP supporters for specific policies or stances, but this doesn't amount to being able to steer the party wherever he wants.

You're saying that Rush Limbaugh controls the direction and policy of the GOP?

Can he really, on an effective level?

Sure, he's able to whip up popular support within a certain group of GOP supporters for specific policies or stances, but this doesn't amount to being able to steer the party wherever he wants.

You're saying that Rush Limbaugh controls the direction and policy of the GOP?

Indirectly, perhaps. There are people on the RNC who are actually afraid of annoying Rush, people who do control the direction and policy of the GOP. Perhaps if someone stood up to him and didn't grovel, the GOP might get that monkey off their back but so far, I haven't seen it.

Right-wing talk show host Laura Ingraham weighed in: "What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard?"

someone who still has tastebuds I'd wager. American tomato sauce is shit.
Obama spent part of his childhood in the Philipines. It's a wonder he didn't ask for Horseradish and chug the entire bottle.

Because no matter how much his voice is heard as representative of a large section of the GOP's supporters, Limbaugh does not "basically control" the party.

He may have clout, but he doesn't have power.

he has made every nominal official in the party who even mildly criticized him or his ideas apologize for it. his power is more real than theirs as far as the party goes.

Indirectly, perhaps. There are people on the RNC who are actually afraid of annoying Rush, people who do control the direction and policy of the GOP. Perhaps if someone stood up to him and didn't grovel, the GOP might get that monkey off their back but so far, I haven't seen it.

he has made every nominal official in the party who even mildly criticized him or his ideas apologize for it. his power is more real than theirs as far as the party goes.
Hmm.

I still think there's a big difference between not wanting to piss off Limbaugh (and thus piss off the GOP voters he represents) and him 'controlling' the party.

Right-wing talk show host Laura Ingraham weighed in: "What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard?"

someone who still has tastebuds I'd wager. American tomato sauce is shit.
Obama spent part of his childhood in the Philipines. It's a wonder he didn't ask for Horseradish and chug the entire bottle.

He also spent part of his childhood in Indonesia I'm surprised he does bow down and face Mecca five times a day. ;p

Hmm.

I still think there's a big difference between not wanting to piss off Limbaugh (and thus piss off the GOP voters he represents) and him 'controlling' the party.

The key phrase is "the GOP voters he represents." Piss off Rush, you piss off the base and the next thing you know you're wondering if your brother-in-law could use some help in his real estate business.

The key phrase is "the GOP voters he represents."
I'd question whether 'the base' and Rush's supporters are one and the same.

Isn't this the whole basis (combined with the Dems' victories) of the current GOP floundering?

Because no matter how much his voice is heard as representative of a large section of the GOP's supporters, Limbaugh does not "basically control" the party.

He may have clout, but he doesn't have power.

Maybe you missed the part where I referred to Cheney saying that Limbaugh is more representative of the party than Colin Powell?

Maybe you missed the part where three prominent Republicans have made claims to distance the party from Limbaugh, and each has ended up asking his forgiveness - yes - the current effective head of the party kowtows TO Limbaugh.

Maybe you missed the part where...
I'm missing the part where this shows that Limbaugh controls the Republican party.

Media clout is one thing. Control is another.

EDIT: Do you genuinely believe that Rush Limbaugh dictates the RNC's actions?

Why?

Good point.

I'm missing the part where this shows that Limbaugh controls the Republican party.

Media clout is one thing. Control is another.

EDIT: Do you genuinely believe that Rush Limbaugh dictates the RNC's actions?

Does he send them memoes telling them what to do? No, I doubt it. But I do think that his audience is very close to being identical to the True Believer base of the party, and so far, since the election, the leaders of the GOP have shown themselves to be very subservient to Rush.

Anyway, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

I'm missing the part where this shows that Limbaugh controls the Republican party.

Media clout is one thing. Control is another.

EDIT: Do you genuinely believe that Rush Limbaugh dictates the RNC's actions?

I appreciate you're not exposed to the US media, and so haven't really been catching the finer points of the performance. Yes - Limbaugh very really dictates actions. (The Listening Tour that isn't a Listening Tour might be a good place to start).

This is the closest I've ever been to becoming a republican. Those guys are hilarious!

I'm missing the part where this shows that Limbaugh controls the Republican party.

Media clout is one thing. Control is another.

EDIT: Do you genuinely believe that Rush Limbaugh dictates the RNC's actions?

When the chairman of the GOP has to publically apologize to Limbaugh for disagreeing on a position set by the oxycontin addicted blowhard, that says something about his influence on the Party.

I relish the thought of visiting a mustard museum but I might get into a pickle with my wife if I don't ketchup on my honey dew list first. :p

*head explodes*

http://crookedtimber.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/exploding-head.gif

Fixed.

I'm missing the part where this shows that Limbaugh controls the Republican party.

Media clout is one thing. Control is another.

EDIT: Do you genuinely believe that Rush Limbaugh dictates the RNC's actions?
Quite nakedly. He gives orders, and they are obeyed. His lack of any official position that would rightfully entitle him to shove people around is irrelevant.

This is one of those things that is just too trivial to hold on to. Let it go.

We should be concentrating on why he doesn't use ketchup. Must be the unfavorable political connotations that would come with the color red. Clearly, he's a closet Socialist!

Ah, you made a joke. I like when the myrmi that has a sense of humor shows up.

yeah that phase.

they really are between a rock and a hard place.

but one good rational candidate for president can change that. sure there isnt one on the horizon right now but there could be one by the time the next election comes around --of course if s/he is rational s/he wont even consider wasting his/her chance by going up against a popular president.

But the problem is, you can't be rational and run as a Republican right now. Say just one thing that isn't batshit crazy and you'll lose your primary.

The only half-way decent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jeffords#Departure_from_the_GOP) Republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman), is a Democrat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlen_Specter).

maybe once they get it out of their system they can start being sane again.Uhm ... wtf?
Insanity IS their "system"

The southern armies fired on Fort Sumpter, thus beginning the civil war. The suggestion is that Obama is the starting point for a civil war.

S. U. M. T. E. R. I don't know this "Fort Sumpter" you keep mentioning.

As for the OP, THe way to attack this stupidity is to remind Repugnicans (my term for the ugliest of the GOP, not all of them -- hey, if they're gonna rename, so am I) that they love freedom.

THAT INCLUDES FREEDOM TO CHOOSE SOMETHING OTHER THAN YELLOW MUSTARD, for fuck's sake. Also? The most popular national brand of yellow mustard? French's.

There are just too many ways to shoot this lame duck down.

There are just too many ways to shoot this lame duck down.

Oh, you assume I want to shoot it. I do not.

I want to force-feed it until it dies, suffering as its liver dilates and overworks itself, then enjoy some foie gras.

Oh, you assume I want to shoot it. I do not.

I want to force-feed it until it dies, suffering as its liver dilates and overworks itself, then enjoy some foie gras.

I don't really care what you want to do with it, H2. You do your own ideological side no favors by acting like this...this...vengeful child.

Oh, you assume I want to shoot it. I do not.

I want to force-feed it until it dies, suffering as its liver dilates and overworks itself, then enjoy some foie gras.

I thought that was best made with goose not duck *wanders off to experiment*

I thought that was best made with goose not duck *wanders off to experiment*

Well, you make do with the quote you have, not with the quote you wish you had. :p

I don't really care what you want to do with it, H2. You do your own ideological side no favors by acting like this...this...vengeful child.

For the Iraq War, the GOP deserves to end, much like the National Socialist Party of Germany ended from WWII. So, yes. I don't want to shoot this down quickly. I want to make sure the GOP is known as the Mustard party. I want to see everyone reminded of the crap the GOP pulled and keeps pulling, at all times.

For the Iraq War, the GOP deserves to end, much like the National Socialist Party of Germany ended from WWII. So, yes. I don't want to shoot this down quickly. I want to make sure the GOP is known as the Mustard party. I want to see everyone reminded of the crap the GOP pulled and keeps pulling, at all times.

The Democrats authorized the war, too. Where's your vaunted equality? THat party should "end", too.

No wonder you're so irritable. You spend a lot of time looking for things to be irritated about.

The Democrats authorized the war, too.

Out of fear of being labelled anti-American, which was the GOP's favorite sport of the time.

Out of fear of being labelled anti-American, which was the GOP's favorite sport of the time.

So because the Democrats were spineless, they get out of the H2 vengeance machine scot free?

My, how flexible you are.

So because the Democrats were spineless, they get out of the H2 vengeance machine scot free?

My, how flexible you are.

I had spine, was proven right, and got squat to show for it.

Some poster here has a quote by Goebbels on leading people to war on his sig. The GOP played that quote to a T. It's not about spine. Not to mention that the GOP was the majority back then. Even if the Democrats stonewalled, that onslaught would have happened anyways.

I had spine, was proven right, and got squat to show for it.


Ahahaha. You had nothing to lose. Every citizen and their dog was against the war here (apart from that silent half of the population), that was the fashionable thing to do (and I presume it was the same in Brazil). It would probably have taken more spine at the time to say you supported the war.

I had spine, was proven right, and got squat to show for it.

Because you're nobody. Had you been a US Senator or Representative, you might not have made the same call. You can't call it "having spine" when there's nothing on the line for your "tough decision". Come on.

Some poster here has a quote by Goebbels on leading people to war. The GOP played that quote to a T.

So what?

Ahahaha. You had nothing to lose. Every citizen and their dog was against the war here (apart from that silent half of the population), that was the fashionable thing to do (and I presume it was the same in Brazil). It would probably have taken more spine at the time to say you supported the war.

True - for our respective countries. In the US, and in American-dominated areas of the Net, it was another thing.

Mustard? REALLY?

Really, Dijon mustard. I approve. Dijon mustard is so superior to McDonald-standard mustard, that I think that McD should be forbidden to call that shit "mustard" altogether.


Conservative commentators seeking ways to pillory the president have found their latest weapon: mustard.

Pillory someone about what gets through his pyloric sphincter, gosh.


Oh, not patriotic, 76-trombones-along-the-parade-route yellow mustard. But pretentious, elitist, higher-tax-bracket Dijon mustard.

As long as O'Bama paid the import tarifs on it...

:D

True - for our respective countries. In the US, and in American-dominated areas of the Net, it was another thing.

In SOME parts of the US. Remember it was only just a majority of citizens that supported it at the time, I think it was 52%. In some parts the cities were experiencing one of the largest anti-war marches ever seen.

I have absolutely no idea what you lot are talking about.

I have absolutely no idea what you lot are talking about.

Thanks for the contribution. Now take a walk to the nearest würstel joint and have one. Mit scharfem Senf, natürlich.

In SOME parts of the US. Remember it was only just a majority of citizens that supported it at the time, I think it was 52%. In some parts the cities were experiencing one of the largest anti-war marches ever seen.

Either I recall incorrectly or it was like 70-30 to 80-20 at a time.

I have absolutely no idea what you lot are talking about.

Or how to read the OP and the link therein, either?

Thanks for the contribution. Now take a walk to the nearest würstel joint and have one. Mit scharfem Senf, natürlich.

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I had spine, was proven right, and got squat to show for it.



Here's your fucking cookies. (http://www.nocreditcheckpaydayloansonline.co.uk/images/no_browser_cookies.jpg) Are you happy yet, or are you just going to keep moaning on and on and on. It's old, it's immature and it's degrading. I mean this whole "aggrieved victim" act is so moronic it hurts. Why don't you just cut it out and move on?

Either I recall incorrectly or it was like 70-30 to 80-20 at a time.

I was just reading up and it turns out that it fluctuated heavily throughout the time after 9/11 and prior to the war. Sometimes it was low, sometimes it was high. Importantly, the vast majority did not approve of limiting the time of the weapons inspectors, and wanted to wait for them to collect evidence first. But regardless, the important thing is, you had very little to loose to say that you were against the war at the time.

I avehay onay ideaay hatway uoyay ustjay aidsay. Oday ouyay?

Pig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_latin)!

Here's your fucking cookies. (http://www.nocreditcheckpaydayloansonline.co.uk/images/no_browser_cookies.jpg) Are you happy yet, or are you just going to keep moaning on and on and on. It's old, it's immature and it's degrading. I mean this whole "aggrieved victim" act is so moronic it hurts. Why don't you just cut it out and move on?

I think I'll be happy when Bush et al are tried for war crimes.

I think I'll be happy when Bush et al are tried for war crimes.

Why spend the rest of your life irritated? You're clearly out of touch with how the US system of justice works with regard to its elite.

I think I'll be happy when Bush et al are tried for war crimes.

That doesn't have anything to do with your aggrieved victim act though. Your aggrieved victim act is borne of the ebil peeps who called you "Anti-American" on the tubes.

I was just reading up and it turns out that it fluctuated heavily throughout the time after 9/11 and prior to the war. Sometimes it was low, sometimes it was high. Importantly, the vast majority did not approve of limiting the time of the weapons inspectors, and wanted to wait for them to collect evidence first. But regardless, the important thing is, you had very little to loose to say that you were against the war at the time.

Still. In this one case I was merely using myself as an example. But the fact is many people thought being against the war was political suicide back then.

Pig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_latin)!

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That doesn't have anything to do with your aggrieved victim act though. Your aggrieved victim act is borne of the ebil peeps who called you "Anti-American" on the tubes.

Not that I'd not like to hear of their demise, but in this one thread I was just using - poorly, I admit - myself as an example.

Why spend the rest of your life irritated? You're clearly out of touch with how the US system of justice works with regard to its elite.

Then, when their lot die.

Still. In this one case I was merely using myself as an example. But the fact is many people thought being against the war was political suicide back then.

But what does that have to do with the fact that the democrats also supported the war, anyway?

Not that I'd not like to hear of their demise, but in this one thread I was just using - poorly, I admit - myself as an example.

You put on the aggrieved victim role on this forum all of the time, though. How you suffered so dearly, sacrificed so much, and were hurt so grievously by twelve-year-olds on the internet who called you anti-American and then posted links to the French military history and demanded Freedom Fries and typed "LOL" repeatedly. It's not innovative, it's not funny, it's just irritating. Grow up.

But what does that have to do with the fact that the democrats also supported the war, anyway?

Again, it was political suicide not to.

Besides, while I'd love both parties to be replaced by further-left ones, it's one step at a time, and Republicans are the worse ones.

You put on the aggrieved victim role on this forum all of the time, though.

Goodie, but we'll talk about that in a thread in which I actually do it, okay? Okay.

I had spine, was proven right, and got squat to show for it.

Some poster here has a quote by Goebbels on leading people to war on his sig. The GOP played that quote to a T. It's not about spine. Not to mention that the GOP was the majority back then. Even if the Democrats stonewalled, that onslaught would have happened anyways.

Goodie, but we'll talk about that in a thread in which I actually do it, okay? Okay.

Okay, that's why we're doing it here.

Okay, that's why we're doing it here.

Did I use "stonewall" correctly back then?

Did I use "stonewall" correctly back then?

In the way I've used the term (as an interviewer), stonewalling is when you're being asked a question, and you sit there "silent as a stone wall". As I recall, you were not silent (which is commendable) on the matter of the war.

Then, when their lot die.

It's truly sad to allow yourself to be defined by the actions and dispositions of people you're not even connected to through nationality, let alone really all that affected by. What a strange, angry little world you must live in.

Again, it was political suicide not to.

Besides, while I'd love both parties to be replaced by further-left ones, it's one step at a time, and Republicans are the worse ones.

Pish posh, American political life hovers around the political center of the general population, and slightly shifts one direction or another depending on fickle moods. Neither party is going anywhere, and the Republicans will be back in power within the next twelve years.

It's truly sad to allow yourself to be defined by the actions and dispositions of people you're not even connected to through nationality, let alone really all that affected by. What a strange, angry little world you must live in.

I know. I'm not happy about it either.

But - lest this thread turns into a blog - moving on...

I know. I'm not happy about it either.

But - lest this thread turns into a blog - moving on...

Heaven forfend that a thread about mustard elitism get derailed.

Heaven forfend that a thread about mustard elitism get derailed.

Thanks for making me chuckle. :p

Again, it was political suicide not to.

Of 21 Democrat Senators that voted in opposition to the war, none have lost an election since. Apparently political suicide isn't politically fatal.

Of 21 Democrat Senators that voted in opposition to the war, none have lost an election since. Apparently political suicide isn't politically fatal.

Noted: It seemed like political suicide. But then, no WMDs were found, and US soldiers died like flies.

politico is reporting that when the RNC meets next week they will pass the resolution to rename the democratic party the democrat socialist party.

senator sessions accused mr obama of deliberately tanking the economy in order to grab more power for himself. rush limbaugh jumped on this bandwagon

this must be some kind of phase they are going through. maybe once they get it out of their system they can start being sane again.

I wouldnt put anything past senator Jeff Sessions. He really knows how to shovel it!

I wouldnt put anything past senator Jeff Sessions. He really knows how to shovel it!

Well, then, let him be treated as the crazy clown that he is.

Well, then, let him be treated as the crazy clown that he is.

We try. (here in Alabama) But it's just too red here. I wear my "I'm surrounded by idiots" t-shirt everytime I vote but it's just not working.
:(

We try. (here in Alabama) But it's just too red here. I wear my "I'm surrounded by idiots" t-shirt everytime I vote but it's just not working.
:(

Ah, Alabama, where that kind of thing is tolerated.

(Cookie for whoever gets the reference)

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

Mustard? REALLY?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

That's increasingly looking like those moments in anime in which an opponent is all but dead and attacks the other guy, while said other guy warns him to stop before he loses his life.

Really.

Mustard? REALLY? The GOP is THAT FUCKING DESPERATE?

Furthermore, the Party of the guy that tortured wrong info out of someone to use it for a war that shouldn't have been waged is raving about mustard?

Mustard, GOP?

Seriously?
I dunno what teevee you've been watching, but the GOP has been a party of middle school boys who chant "FAGGY FAG FAG FAG!" at their opponents for at least a good 5 years now.

Picking on Obama for his choice of condiment is precisely what I would expect from them.

I dunno what teevee you've been watching, but the GOP has been a party of middle school boys who chant "FAGGY FAG FAG FAG!" at their opponents for at least a good 5 years now.

Picking on Obama for his choice of condiment is precisely what I would expect from them.

You know, maybe that's the bone I have to pick with the GOP (Well, besides the normal one everyone sane has). Being bullied as a kid was a pretty defining experience for me, and I maybe identify the GOP with the bullies: They scapegoat others, they attack the weaker and claim the right to do so, they are that immature...

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Ah, Alabama, where that kind of thing is tolerated.

(Cookie for whoever gets the reference)

Our other brain dead, right wing senator Richard Shelby?

Our other brain dead, right wing senator Richard Shelby?

No... o_O Why would you think that?

Tip: It's a song.

No... o_O Why would you think that?

Tip: It's a song.

Umm.... Ahhh!
#I tried so hard
And go so far
But in the end
The bastard was elected#
:p

Our other brain dead, right wing senator Richard Shelby?

Dear Ohio's actually slightly reversed. Our Democrat is a brain-dead moron who talks about how "them fer'ner's took our jawbs!" while our Republican is pleasant and moderate. (To quote Jim Rhodes when he picked Voinovich for the Lt. Governor spot in the eighties: "Why George? Well, he's never offended anyone!")

Okay, after learning about it in another thread, I gotta say. The GOP is increasingly looking like the Black Knight from Monty Python.

THAT'S IT!!! The GOP is trying to turn itself into a comedy troupe.

I guess they think that if people like Al Franken can go from Comedian pundant to politician, they figure they can tranverse into the comedy world.

can't wait for them to make a zany skit comedy to be aired on Comedy Central.

I find this is a testament to the power advertisements have over public perception.

I still remember that Grey Poupon ad.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-mustard-obamamay11,0,1652607.story

Dijon is "fancy" in the USA? How parochial.

Dijon is "fancy" in the USA? How parochial.

Remember what you asked "why" about in the other thread?

That's why. :D

To be sure, though, it seems there was a commercial long ago that made Dijon some sort of "snobbish" mustard or something. I don't know the specifics.

To be sure, though, it seems there was a commercial long ago that made Dijon some sort of "snobbish" mustard or something. I don't know the specifics.

But making Dijon "snobbish" is like making... uhm, fish and chips, or hot dogs "snobbish". I can scarcely think of any other kind of mustard that's more mundane. It's not like it's PDO/PGI or anything. Is this just because the name is French?

Oh, yeah, the USA... never mind.

But making Dijon "snobbish" is like making... uhm, fish and chips, or hot dogs "snobbish". I can scarcely think of any other kind of mustard that's more mundane. It's not like it's PDO/PGI or anything. Is this just because the name is French?

Oh, yeah, the USA... never mind.

It's "snobbish" due primarily to Grey Poupon's extensive 80s/90s commercial campaign that portrayed it as the mustard of old, rich, white men in the backs of their limos. Regular yellow mustard is easily more mundane than dijon mustard, both in taste, cost, and ingredients.

But making Dijon "snobbish" is like making... uhm, fish and chips, or hot dogs "snobbish". I can scarcely think of any other kind of mustard that's more mundane. It's not like it's PDO/PGI or anything. Is this just because the name is French?

Oh, yeah, the USA... never mind.

yellow mustard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_(condiment)) tends to be seen as more... mundane mustard in America.

I like French's Mustard (http://www.frenchs.com/theskinnyonmustard/) the best. but that's me.

But making Dijon "snobbish" is like making... uhm, fish and chips, or hot dogs "snobbish". I can scarcely think of any other kind of mustard that's more mundane. It's not like it's PDO/PGI or anything. Is this just because the name is French?

Oh, yeah, the USA... never mind.

Trust me, this American doesn't think Dijon mustard is snobbish. I don't really care for the taste of it, either. There's something in this thread I find snobbish, though.

Trust me, this American doesn't think Dijon mustard is snobbish. I don't really care for the taste of it, either. There's something in this thread I find snobbish, though.

It may be because I'm better than y*gets shot*

I don't like mustard at all.

It may be because I'm better than y*gets shot*

It may be because you weren't who I was referring to. And unless you look like this: http://personalsecurityzone.com/images/OUT45725lg.jpg

You're safe. :p

Regular yellow mustard is easily more mundane than dijon mustard, both in taste, cost, and ingredients.

Dijon is a "regular, yellow mustard". :confused:

There's something in this thread I find snobbish, though.

Is this where we fake interest into what it is since you withhold it?

But making Dijon "snobbish" is like making... uhm, fish and chips, or hot dogs "snobbish". I can scarcely think of any other kind of mustard that's more mundane. It's not like it's PDO/PGI or anything. Is this just because the name is French?

Oh, yeah, the USA... never mind.

It's actually part of a marketing ploy. Dijon mustard, while not necessarily more expensive than the yellow, brown or ground mustards common throughout the US, was advertised quite thoroughly as the mustard of the elite (and thus desirable). It was a sufficiently notable to become culturally pervasive for a time, even making it into such high brow movies as "Wayne's World".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xomArI4aJ0

If such a similar thing were run in Sweden or the low countries, you'd get the exact same result. It's merely marketing making culture.

Is this where we fake interest into what it is since you withhold it?


If you don't get it, I don't think I can explain it to you.

one of the more bizarre aspects of the periodic right-wing freak out that some democrat ordered food improperly is that the place usually actually has the offending item in stock, as if they intended to offer it as an option to sell to customers or something.

one of the more bizarre aspects of the periodic right-wing freak out that some democrat ordered food improperly is that the place usually actually has the offending item in stock, as if they intended to offer it as an option to sell to customers or something.

In this case, I think the GOP has watched a bit too much Wayne's World.

If you don't get it, I don't think I can explain it to you.

If you think I desired an explanation... oh, honey. *pats on head*

If you think I desired an explanation... oh, honey. *pats on head*

Your mom.

I'm being ironically ironic ironically.

*So hip and intellectual I implode*

If such a similar thing were run in Sweden or the low countries, you'd get the exact same result.

I very much doubt it, seeing as Dijon is as "fancy" around here as meatballs.

If you think I desired an explanation... oh, honey. *pats on head*

If you didn't, then why did you even bother to reply to me? BTW, my name isn't honey. If you need to refer to me other than by my forum name, feel free to call me GM (other people do).

I very much doubt it, seeing as Dijon is as "fancy" around here as meatballs.

You're assuming too much, de-ah. A sustained marketing campaign will likely eventually override it. Especially if the ad is trying to sell a higher-cost type of Dijon mustard--convince people to buy the fancier stuff.

Of course, I'm not impressed. Dijon isn't that good, I greatly prefer some of the coarse ground German mustards.

Your mom.

That sort of approach to an invective requires that one hold my mother to a high esteem. Rest assured that I do not think one should.

Dijon is a "regular, yellow mustard". :confused:

Nah. Dijon mustard substitutes white wine or verjuice for the vinegar in "regular, yellow" mustard. It's a variant.

That sort of approach to an invective requires that one hold my mother to a high esteem. Rest assured that I do not think one should.

If I hadn't imploded, I would say "Your mom's face", but since I'm imploded because of my ironically ironic irony, I've imploded, so I cannot.

That sort of approach to an invective requires that one hold my mother to a high esteem. Rest assured that I do not think one should.

Ah, so you don't hold yours to a high esteem either?

Cool! We could spend an afternoon calling each other a son-of-a-bitch and not being offended! What say you? I'll bring the Brazilian barbecue, you bring the drinks! :D

You're assuming too much, de-ah. A sustained marketing campaign will likely eventually override it. Especially if the ad is trying to sell a higher-cost type of Dijon mustard--convince people to buy the fancier stuff.

Uhm, no. Just, no. It would be akin to making someone here think IKEA is "fancy". Or falukorv. Or social democracy.

Nah. Dijon mustard substitutes white wine or verjuice for the vinegar in "regular, yellow" mustard.

Lots of regular, yellow mustards contain wine. So?

Uhm, no. Just, no. It would be akin to making someone here think IKEA is "fancy". Or falukorv. Or social democracy.

Y'know, Brazil REALLY could use an IKEA store.

Ah, so you don't hold yours to a high esteem either?

Cool! We could spend an afternoon calling each other a son-of-a-bitch and not being offended! What say you? I'll bring the Brazilian barbecue, you bring the drinks! :D

Would some "must" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust) suffice?

Y'know, Brazil REALLY could use an IKEA store.

It hasn't one? Wait. Just wait.

Uhm, no. Just, no. It would be akin to making someone here think IKEA is "fancy". Or falukorv. Or social democracy.

You're strongly overestimating the ability of people to resist the influences of advertising. Rebrand IKEA, for instance. Hike the price, pre-assemble the stuff (So that Jokkmokk doesn't eat your soul) and advertise it properly, and trust me, IKEA will be "fancy" before you know it.

Admittedly, I'm using specific examples to illustrate a general principle, but it can be done.

Hot dogs, for instance, are dirt cheap and gross. BUT! If you put them in clean, modern packaging, or claim that they're made following an "old family recipe" people will pay too much for them. Same principle.

Would some "must" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julmust) suffice?

Sounds splendid, you son of a bitch! :D

By the way, meet our Churrasco:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churrasco

Lots of regular, yellow mustards contain wine. So?

Not if they're regular, yellow mustards.

You're strongly overestimating the ability of people to resist the influences of advertising. Rebrand IKEA, for instance. Hike the price, pre-assemble the stuff (So that Jokkmokk doesn't eat your soul) and advertise it properly, and trust me, IKEA will be "fancy" before you know it.

You don't understand the level of genericness of Dijon. And IKEA. People here tend to say "they may act fancy, but they still have furniture from IKEA". No, IKEA would not become fancy. The campaign would just be seen as sarcastic. The same with Dijon, which by the by is a common ingredient in "old-time, down to earth, country cooking" recipes referred to as husmanskost, which by the by is what one can find in many an IKEA restaurant and food store abroad.

Not if they're regular, yellow mustards.

Uhm, yes. Unless somehow "regular, yellow mustard" means something else than the words "regular" and "yellow" and "mustard" do in juxtaposition.

There are restaurants in IKEA?

Sounds splendid, you son of a bitch! :D

By the way, meet our Churrasco:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churrasco

Burnt animal carcass. :rolleyes:

You don't understand the level of genericness of Dijon. And IKEA. People here tend to say "they may act fancy, but they still have furniture from IKEA". No, IKEA would not become fancy. The campaign would just be seen as sarcastic. The same with Dijon, which by the by is a common ingredient in "old-time, down to earth, country cooking" recipes referred to as husmanskost, which by the by is what one can find in many an IKEA restaurant and food store abroad.

Hey, I just found out my Babylon has a Swedish-English dictionary. o_o

(Husmanskost = Potluck)

There are restaurants in IKEA?

http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/IKEA_Food/restaurant.html

Uhm, yes. Unless somehow "regular, yellow mustard" means something else than the words "regular" and "yellow" and "mustard" do in juxtaposition.

Um, no. Yellow mustard is made with vinegar, salt, and turmeric, to make it more yellow. While mustards made with wines might be yellow in color, they are not yellow mustard. They may be Dijon mustard, or Bordeaux mustard, or Beaujolais mustard, but they are not yellow, or American, mustard.

Burnt animal carcass. :rolleyes:

Oh, right, vegetarian.

Well, I did learn to make a magnificent vegetarian lasagna with eggplants, cheese and pumpkins. Can we eat that while calling each other SOBs?

There are restaurants in IKEA?

Yep. I ate at the one in New Haven, CT. It wasn't bad, but it'll be a while until I go there again (New Haven is an hour away from where I live).

Hey, I just found out my Babylon has a Swedish-English dictionary. o_o

(Husmanskost = Potluck)

It has an incorrect Swedish-English dictionary, in such case. "Potluck" = "knytkalas".

It has an incorrect Swedish-English dictionary, in such case. "Potluck" = "knytkalas".

Good thing my English-Portuguese ones are good. :D

Um, no. Yellow mustard is made with vinegar, salt, and turmeric, to make it more yellow. While mustards made with wines might be yellow in color, they are not yellow mustard. They may be Dijon mustard, or Bordeaux mustard, or Beaujolais mustard, but they are not yellow, or American, mustard.

Ah, with "regular, yellow mustard" you were trying to say "USA mustard". Now I know the kind you were referring to. The one devoid of taste. Fortunately, not very "regular" here.

Oh, right, vegetarian.

Well, I did learn to make a magnificent vegetarian lasagna with eggplants, cheese and pumpkins. Can we eat that while calling each other SOBs?

*psst* Cheese is an animal product. Pass it on.

Ah, with "regular, yellow mustard" you were trying to say "USA mustard". Now I know the kind you were referring to. The one devoid of taste. Fortunately, not very "regular" here.

Yes, by regular, yellow mustard, I was in fact referring to regular, yellow mustard. The generic mustard recipe upon which all other mustards are based. Imagine that.

*psst* Cheese is an animal product. Pass it on.

*pssst* vegetarians do eat cheese and milk. even fish. it's VEGANS that don't eat dairy products.

*psst* Cheese is an animal product. Pass it on.

Oh, you're a VEGAN.

Well... I'll bring you turnips and you bring the "must"? o_o

Yes, by regular, yellow mustard, I was in fact referring to regular, yellow mustard.

Nope. You were seemingly referring to "USA mustard". Which, while yellow, isn't very regular (and barely mustard...). At least not here. Or internationally. I should hope.

Ah, with "regular, yellow mustard" you were trying to say "USA mustard". Now I know the kind you were referring to. The one devoid of taste. Fortunately, not very "regular" here.

Which, since the 'president' in question is the president of the US, the media in question is the media in the US, the GOP in question is the GOP in the US, and the restaurant in question is in the US... and, since the mustard in question is being discussed in the context of the US...

...makes the 'regular' qualities of mustard in Sweden somewhere between irrelevant and... nope. That's it. It's irrelevant.

It's all irrelevant, Sean Hannity is a retard, whether the mustard is fancy or not.

It's all irrelevant, Sean Hannity is a retard, whether the mustard is fancy or not.

It is, indeed, irrelevant. Which - I suspect - is the point of the thread.

Nope. You were seemingly referring to "USA mustard". Which, while yellow, isn't very regular (and barely mustard...). At least not here. Or internationally. I should hope.

Well, it's a good thing this article is about the Swedish prime minister's taste in mustard, and about how the Swedish Republican party is making a big deal about the Swedish prime minister choosing Dijon mustard over good old fashioned Swedish mustard in Sweden. Because then, the relevancy of your entire contribution to this thread would be unquestionable.

It's all irrelevant, Sean Hannity is a retard, whether the mustard is fancy or not.

No, no.

THAT'S how a haiku is made:

It's irrelevant.
Sean Hannity's a retard.
Good mustard or not.

:p

*pssst* vegetarians do eat cheese and milk. even fish.

Which has relevance to my alimentation (the one referred to) because...?

Oh, you're a VEGAN.

As much as possible.

Well... I'll bring you turnips and you bring the "must"? o_o

And here I was hoping for some fleshless caldo verde or açorda. But I was thinking of Portugal. I guess quibebe or bell pepper pamonha would be nice, and some broa sandwiches.

Which, since the 'president' in question is the president of the US, the media in question is the media in the US, the GOP in question is the GOP in the US, and the restaurant in question is in the US... and, since the mustard in question is being discussed in the context of the US...

That's not what the discussion was about at that point. Nice try, but you fail on reading comprehension.

Well, it's a good thing this article is about the Swedish prime minister's taste in mustard, and about how the Swedish Republican party is making a big deal about the Swedish prime minister choosing Dijon mustard over good old fashioned Swedish mustard in Sweden. Because then, the relevancy of your entire contribution to this thread would be unquestionable.

You, too. But also on writing, especially on an international forum while conversing with someone who isn't from the USA.

Which has relevance to my alimentation (the one referred to) because...?



As much as possible.



And here I was hoping for some fleshless caldo verde or açorda. But I was thinking of Portugal. I guess quibebe or bell pepper pamonha would be nice, and some broa sandwiches.

Can be done, can be done. And Caldo Verde is also known here.

Which has relevance to my alimentation (the one referred to) because...?

A vegetarian lasagna can contain Cheese. a VEGAN lasagna won't. ;)

just making sure others know the distiction.

That's not what the discussion was about at that point. Nice try, but you fail on reading comprehension.



You, too. But also on writing, especially on an international forum while conversing with someone who isn't from the USA.

The internationality of this forum is as irrelevant as all your protests in this thread so far. The discussion is about events that occurred in the United States. Yellow mustard, in the United States, is a specific kind of mustard (as it is elsewhere in the world, but as I know this will cause a hissy fit from you, I won't argue that point further). That Dijon mustard qualifies as yellow mustard in Sweden is completely, entirely, 100% irrelevant to this entire discussion. You are, quite simply, wrong, and no amount of condescending crap from you will change this. I now consider this discussion closed, as there is no further reason for you to continue trolling this thread.

A vegetarian lasagna can contain Cheese. a VEGAN lasagna won't. ;)

just making sure others know the distiction.

Well... I could replace the cheese with some leek (http://www.leekspin.com/).

*Spins*

Fass, meet Orihime.

That's not what the discussion was about at that point. Nice try, but you fail on reading comprehension.


I'm trying really hard to care what some random internet person thinks of my comprehension.

But then, since the thread topic is rather specific, and it's only your hijack of it that wishes to discuss other contexts... I rather think it's not my comprehension that is at fault.

The internationality of this forum is as irrelevant as all your protests in this thread so far. The discussion is about events that occurred in the United States. Yellow mustard, in the United States, is a specific kind of mustard (as it is elsewhere in the world, but as I know this will cause a hissy fit from you, I won't argue that point further). That Dijon mustard qualifies as yellow mustard in Sweden is completely, entirely, 100% irrelevant to this entire discussion. You are, quite simply, wrong, and no amount of condescending crap from you will change this. I now consider this discussion closed, as there is no further reason for you to continue trolling this thread.

Right.

A vegetarian lasagna can contain Cheese. a VEGAN lasagna won't. ;)

just making sure others know the distiction.

Superfluously.

Superfluously.

o_O

Wouldn't you like to eat a good vegan lasagna?

Well... I could replace the cheese with some leek (http://www.leekspin.com/).

*Spins*

Fass, meet Orihime.

Okay, I buy an anime girl spinning a leek. But singing a Finnish polka? That's just a bit odd.

Superfluously.

never meant it to be anything else.

Lasagna with leek.... sounds... interesting...

o_O

Wouldn't you like to eat a good vegan lasagna?

Too carby. Summer season is upon us and thus shirtless exposure. Competition on Swedish beaches when it comes to having a desirable physique is murder, I'll tell you, and pasta is the devil in that respect.

Okay, I buy an anime girl spinning a leek. But singing a Finnish polka? That's just a bit odd.

That's leekspin. Which makes Orihime Inoue one of the very few anime characters known by fewer otakus than non-otakus.

It means nothing.

It will erode your will, until you are but a shell of your former self, constantly watching her spinning the leek in a loop.

I am doomed by it. And now so are you...

That's leekspin. Which makes Orihime Inoue one of the very few anime characters known by fewer otakus than non-otakus.

It means nothing.

It will erode your will, until you are but a shell of your former self, constantly watching her spinning the leek in a loop.

I am doomed by it. And now so are you...

Nanatsu say:

God damn that video. Now I have that polka in my head! Shit!