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The real question is, How much DNA do we share with these guys?

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The real question is, How much DNA do we share with these guys?

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As much as they want. ;)

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Well, you see, This is a Scientific Fact, when you go around telling kids Lies, there can be problems, lol

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Not. In. Science. Class.

Presenting unscientific views can be done in a religions-of-the-world class. NOT science. NEVER.

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Because the particular view we all know this is REALLY about has absolutely no basis in science, and therefore has absolutely no place in science class.

Opposing views can be mentioned...just not alongside well-researched science, and not as a equally valid interpretation.

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Because that view isn't science. It has no place in a science classroom.

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

What place do unscientific views of the universe have in a science classroom?

What place do unscientific views of the universe have in a science classroom?

In the Gym with the Christian Student Gatherings :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Twinpappia
How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Well, you see, This is a Scientific Fact, when you go around telling kids Lies, there can be problems, lol


The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

So can we teach kids the creation stories of other religions too? Like the ancient Greeks, where a woman (Earth) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(mythology)) was born out of nothingness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_(mythology)) then gave birth to a son (the sky) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(mythology)) who had sex with her and eventually created everything.

For further reference (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theogony).

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

You don't know what "theory" means, do you?

the⋅o⋅ry   /ˈθiəri, ˈθɪəri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [thee-uh-ree, theer-ee] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ries. 1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.
2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.
3. Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory.
4. the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice: music theory.
5. a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles.
6. contemplation or speculation.
7. guess or conjecture.


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Origin:
1590–1600; < LL theōria < Gk theōría a viewing, contemplating, equiv. to theōr(eîn) to view + -ia -y 3


Synonyms:
1. Theory, hypothesis are used in non-technical contexts to mean an untested idea or opinion. A theory in technical use is a more or less verified or established explanation accounting for known facts or phenomena: the theory of relativity. A hypothesis is a conjecture put forth as a possible explanation of phenomena or relations, which serves as a basis of argument or experimentation to reach the truth: This idea is only a hypothesis.

I am not surprised. Texas has more than its fair share of xtian idiots.

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Possibly, if there is another theory supported by significant portion of the Scientific Community, then, maybe...

However, this particular viewpoint that is being proposed is not a Scientific Theory in the slightest, and is only supported by those in the Church...

Therefore, it has no place in a Science Class...

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.
You obviously have no comprehension of what the term means in science.
Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.
If the alternatives are scientifically sound, yes they do. ID and creationism do not meet that criteria and thus have no place in science class.

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

As long as they are scientific theories.

Which means that hypotheses must be tested for, data collected and interpreted and theories modified. That's science.

Young Earth Creationism seeks to find data that fits their 'theory' and ignore that which does not. Their theory is not subject to the scientific method and therefore, isn't science. Ergo, it is not a scientific theory and has no place being taught as one.

There are no religous classes in public schools,
GOOD!
it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.
And you would be wrong.

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.

Then I DEMAND that you teach MY theory:

I AM GOD. Everyone exists because of MY interactions with them and acknowledgement that they do. That's how everything and everyone came to being.

Now make your choice: Favor teaching my theory or be incoherent.

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.

History, Sociology, Psychology, Culture...all classes where this might have a chance. Not science.

Thoughts?

Burn, Galileo, burn! Burn, Charlie Darwin, burn! :rolleyes:

Anyway: maybe it's time we get separation not only between judiciary, legislative and executive... but also between legislative and science.

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

That's not how science works. Even if it was how science works, it is a SCIENTIFIC theory. The story of creation is not a theory. It is a story. SCIENTIFIC theories have thousands of man hours of research, critical interpretation, and peer review. The story of creation has none.

The story of creation is not a valid SCIENTIFIC alternative to the Big Bang theory. Therefore, it has no place in a SCIENCE class.

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.

Young Earth Creationism isn't a theory. The Texas Board of Education suggesting that science curriculums give weight to the notion that the Universe being 6000 years old is a violation of the scientific method.

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.

It is not a valid alternative to a SCIENTIFIC theory. It has no place in SCIENCE class.

There are numerous classes where Bible study might have a valid place. History. Literature. Civics. Not Science.

Heikoku 2, you sir are redonculous....

I agree that not having religous classes in public schools is a good thing, and I MAY be wrong in my opinion...but that's ok with me. I like the proposed Texas bill.

In the Gym with the Christian Student Gatherings :rolleyes:

In the local parish, during "Time For Christ-Approved Science" hour, every Tuesday at nine o'clock, after the prayer for the conversion of the infidel Galileists and Darwinists.

Not in a school.

I like the proposed Texas bill.

Then you hate science. Why not teach kids alchemy? At least that strives to produce something useful. ;)

Heikoku 2, you sir are redonculous....

I agree that not having religous classes in public schools is a good thing, and I MAY be wrong in my opinion...but that's ok with me. I like the proposed Texas bill.

Your opinions on Heikoku 2, the spelling of Ridiculous, and your own Opinions on the age of the Universe and the proposed bill

have no bearing on Scientific Theory, and therefore no place in a Scientific Classroom...

In the local parish, during "Time For Christ-Approved Science" hour, every Tuesday at nine o'clock, after the prayer for the conversion of the infidel Galileists and Darwinists.

Not in a school.

I agree, didnt stop those fucks from settin up shop every thursday back in highschool and enticing unsuspecting victims into showing up and being smashed on the head with a Vhs Tape...

*grumbles* that tape hurt, lol...

Heikoku 2, you sir are redonculous....

I agree that not having religous classes in public schools is a good thing, and I MAY be wrong in my opinion...but that's ok with me. I like the proposed Texas bill.

You are unequivocally, unquestionably wrong in your belief that Creationism has any rightful place in a science class. For all the harm and disservice you are inflicting upon the people of Texas with a law like this, you may as well teach Aesop's fables as historical fact.

Heikoku 2, you sir are redonculous

Whew! Good! For a minute there I was afraid of being RIDICULOUS.

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y.
No, it is a scientific theory. I trust you understand the difference.
Young Earth Creationism isn't a theory. The Texas Board of Education suggesting that science curriculums give weight to the notion that the Universe being 6000 years old is a violation of the scientific method.
YEC is as much a theory as you are a straight laced orthodox Jew that hates pie and tacos.
Then you hate science. Why not teach kids alchemy? At least that strives to produce something useful. ;)

http://www.teachthecontroversy.info/images/both-theories.jpg

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y.

1. Find a science textbook. Any science textbook. Even a damn third-grade science textbook.
2. Locate the glossary.
3. Look under "T".
4. Read the definition of "theory."
5. Say, "Ohhhhhh, I've been using that term entirely incorrectly!"
6. Stop making people answer this same stupid objection over and over.
7. Profit!

I believe these fit quite nicely into this thread.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbTD22Nxp_4

http://www.hulu.com/watch/54634/family-guy-evolution-vs-creation

alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

Creationism is about a valid alternative as "last tuesdayism".

1. Find a science textbook. Any science textbook. Even a damn third-grade science textbook.
2. Locate the glossary.
3. Look under "T".
4. Read the definition of "theory."
5. Say, "Ohhhhhh, I've been using that term entirely incorrectly!"
6. Stop making people answer this same stupid objection over and over.
7. Profit!

You're missing a step.

1. Find a science textbook. Any science textbook. Even a damn third-grade science textbook.
2. Locate the glossary.
3. Look under "T".
4. Read the definition of "theory."
5. Say, "Ohhhhhh, I've been using that term entirely incorrectly!"
6. Stop making people answer this same stupid objection over and over.
7. Profit!

And Knowing is half the Battle! GO JOE!!!

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/gijoe.jpg

You're missing a step.

Oh, fine, if you insist. :p

1. Find a science textbook. Any science textbook. Even a damn third-grade science textbook.
2. Locate the glossary.
3. Look under "T".
4. Read the definition of "theory."
5. Say, "Ohhhhhh, I've been using that term entirely incorrectly!"
6. Stop making people answer this same stupid objection over and over.
7. ???
8. Profit!

Oh, fine, if you insist. :p

1. Find a science textbook. Any science textbook. Even a damn third-grade science textbook.
2. Locate the glossary.
3. Look under "T".
4. Read the definition of "theory."
5. Say, "Ohhhhhh, I've been using that term entirely incorrectly!"
6. Stop making people answer this same stupid objection over and over.
7. ???
8. Profit!

You have pleased the Meme Gods, and they have granted you 1 Win(s).

There are no religous classes in public schools, it is an alternative theory to the one predominantly presented in classes. I think it does.
Well, you're wrong. I'll walk you through it:

1) If you acknowledge that there are no religion classes in public schools, then you are acknowledging that creationism is religion.

2) That means it is not science.

3) Therefore it does not belong in a science class, where science is taught.

4) Would you advocate teaching English grammar in science class? How about teaching political history in music class, or phys ed in math class? There's a reason why the subjects are separated into their own classes. You don't teach non-science subjects in science class.

5) Therefore there is no place for religion in science class.

6) As for it being an alternative theory, you're wrong again. Religion is not an alternative theory to science in the same way that a steak is not an alternative vegetable course to carrots. Why? Because steak =/= vegetable, and religion =/= theory.

Well, you're wrong. I'll walk you through it:

1) If you acknowledge that there are no religion classes in public schools, then you are acknowledging that creationism is religion.

2) That means it is not science.

3) Therefore it does not belong in a science class, where science is taught.

4) Would you advocate teaching English grammar in science class? How about teaching political history in music class, or phys ed in math class? There's a reason why the subjects are separated into their own classes. You don't teach non-science subjects in science class.

5) Therefore there is no place for religion in science class.

6) As for it being an alternative theory, you're wrong again. Religion is not an alternative theory to science in the same way that a steak is not an alternative vegetable course to carrots. Why? Because steak =/= vegetable, and religion =/= theory.

Forget it Mur. It's chinatown.

4) Would you advocate teaching English grammar in science class? How about teaching political history in music class, or phys ed in math class? There's a reason why the subjects are separated into their own classes. You don't teach non-science subjects in science class.


Yes, Im calling it the Universe of Anarchy USA, lol, its gonna RULE!:p

Its gonna have Blackjack, and HOOKERS!!, infact, Screw the school...


Eh, screw the whole thing...

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

As much as I hate to admit it this kid does have a point.

Not about evolution but more about the creation of the universe. And I am not talking about that we say it was God or whatever.

What I am saying is that we shouldn't be saying the Big Bang was exactly how the universe started but rather the Big Bang is the most plausible theory we have to explain the origins of the universe.

Yes, Im calling it the Universe of Anarchy USA, lol, its gonna RULE!:p

Its gonna have Blackjack, and HOOKERS!!, infact, Screw the school...


Eh, screw the whole thing...

Sounds more like Universe of APATHY, USA.:D

In the local parish, during "Time For Christ-Approved Science" hour, every Tuesday at nine o'clock, after the prayer for the conversion of the infidel Galileists and Darwinists.

Not in a school.

What? One can't be a "Darwinist" and a Christian?

Forget it Mur. It's chinatown.
In more ways than one.

http://www.enviroblog.org/image.jpg

Creationism is about a valid alternative as "last tuesdayism".

Don't you be ragging on my theory. :p

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Nobody is preventing creationism in school. Nobody has any problems with it being taught in a comparitive religions class.

If you are suggesting a it's a scientific model. It fails miserably.


The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y.

Just a theory? :D You never really studied science eh?

Theories are pretty powerful.

There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.


:D and they are rightfully replaced or adjusted.

You are not trying to suggest Evolution has been disproved?

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

Sure. Science theories have a place. Religious philosophy does not.

*snip cut and past of the good ol' dictionary*


Ah so you don't understand.

And that remains a true statement to this day... I'm rather proud to have it displayed every time you post.

So you're saying that because the Shrub is rich, you wouldn't mind if he ran your business? What with, the three companies he's already burned to the ground under his belt. Fourth time's the charm, right?

So you're saying that because the Shrub is rich, you wouldn't mind if he ran your business? What with, the three companies he's already burned to the ground under his belt. Fourth time's the charm, right?

Three plus one called the United States of America.

Or something.

The real question is, How much DNA do we share with these guys?
*imageleechsnip*

None. There is no reason to assume that the bugs even possess DNA.

Why didn't you let Texas and all those Southern States leave the union again?

Good question. :p

To keep reasonable like myself inside the union!

It is getting that people can't stay on topic for more than a page without it descending into off-topic bickering and name calling. Put each other on ignore.

How does one go about that anyway?

The rest will vote Democrat and work at McDonalds.

You suggesting McDonalds is a bad thing?

But but but that is the Republican job creation strategy.

You suggesting McDonalds is a bad thing?

Have you ever eaten their food? Food that tastes that God-awful is an abomination against nature, God, Science, whichever you prefer. Anyone who works at McDonalds is eternally damning their soul/kicking small puppies.

Three plus one called the United States of America.

Or something.

Candidates only seem to be interested in (mostly irrelevant) character-based nitpicking in politics these days instead of looking at what the person has actually done in his/her past jobs that might be relevant.

Have you ever eaten their food? Food that tastes that God-awful is an abomination against nature, God, Science, whichever you prefer. Anyone who works at McDonalds is eternally damning their soul/kicking small puppies.

Oh I get it. They are controlled by Muslims!

Oh I get it. They are controlled by Muslims!

Gay Liberal Muslims, who are corrupting the moral fabric of our society.:p

Ok I had to go to the womans website.

http://www.barbaracargill.com/

Kind of scary and yet makes sense with the Republican views of education is a bad thing because you know it just might turn you into an elitist! *shudder*

*Makes a mental note to background check future job applicants if they were in her district*

How on earth does teaching that SOME views on the age of our planet differ from some scientific models send an entire educational system into the "dark ages"?

Really now, heaven forbid opposing views be even mentioned....

Well, you see, This is a Scientific Fact, when you go around telling kids Lies, there can be problems, lol


The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/tmbar_Will_the_madness_never_end.gif

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/Motivational-gravity.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u275/Gravlen/NSG/Theory01.jpg

Yes, there's a typo in the last one... Oh well...

*snip*

Actually in regards to the table of elements, what exactly would be wrong with teaching kids that some scientists argue where exactly Hydrogen and Helium is? Or should we just say this is what it is and we are not going to teach them these scientific arguments?

Actually in regards to the table of elements, what exactly would be wrong with teaching kids that some scientists argue where exactly Hydrogen and Helium is? Or should we just say this is what it is and we are not going to teach them these scientific arguments?

I am Swedish science teacher so my experience might not be 100% as a teacher in USA, but we do explain about scientific theory and that nothing can be said to be "true" in science.

However, you have a very limited time (for example I am supposed to go trough the whole human body + some more in one term) so you can not explain all the arguments that scientist have.

I would LOVE to do so, and have a term just talking about the cell and how it works. Now I have to do it in maximum 5-10 hours for the cell.

How does one go about that anyway?

In the grey bar near the top of the screen, far left is UserCP. In UserCP in the menu on the left hand side of the screen is Edit Ignore List. Just type in the beginning of the particular person you wish to ignore and a list will appear of people with names beginning that way. Select the person. It might take a couple of minutes to be effective.

Is quite distracting if you have more than a couple of people on ignore. So I would suggest it is only really worth using for the sort of debater who spends all their time making Ad Hominem attacks, shouting down other posters rather than making well thought out and evidenced points.

The THEORY of Evolution is not a fact; its just a T H E O R Y. There was a time when teaching that the world was anything but flat was laughed at, that it was NOT the center of the Universe was insanity.....theories don't always prove out.

Its a theory, alternatives to that theory do indeed belong in science classes.

From en.wiktionary.org/wiki/theory :
3. (sciences) A coherent statement or set of statements that attempts to explain observed phenomena
4. (sciences) A logical structure that enables one to deduce the possible results of every experiment that falls within its purview.

Of course, it's always enjoyable when someone can get fucked by their own words.

Why? He just claimed that he's retired AND asking for his parents' green light to read internet forums - they don't want that ickle kiddie looks pr0n!
That is: he's probabily 75 and going senile, his parents are about 95-100, and he still lives at his parents' who treat him like a 13-age old.

What? One can't be a "Darwinist" and a Christian?

Of course not! *whap* It's apostasy! ;)

Nobody expects the Risottian Inquisition!

I agree, didnt stop those fucks from settin up shop every thursday back in highschool and enticing unsuspecting victims into showing up and being smashed on the head with a Vhs Tape...

*grumbles* that tape hurt, lol...

:confused: Wtf...
Tell them that VHS was created by non-christians, hence it's unholy. Plus it's based on special relativity.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123819751472561761.html?thestupid

For instance, they want textbooks to suggest the theory of evolution is undercut by fossils that show some organisms -- such as ferns -- haven't changed much over millions of years. They also want texts to discuss the explosion of life forms during the Cambrian Era as inconsistent with the incremental march of evolution.


And people wonder why the standard of education is falling when teacher have to give up time (or want to) to teach bullshit like "IDiots have a point"?

And if you are wondering what IDiots have to do with this:
Board members also deleted a reference to the scientific consensus that the universe is nearly 14 billion years old. The board's chairman has said he believes God created the universe fewer than 10,000 years ago.



No child will be left behind, because no child will be going forward.

*points*
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=588076

And yes, it is sad :(

>_< I glanced though but didn't notice.


Sorry.:hail: *leaves to read other topic*

:confused: Wtf...
Tell them that VHS was created by non-christians, hence it's unholy. Plus it's based on special relativity.

I believe Jesus was a keen proponent of betamax.

Do we know when the vote in Texas on this takes place?

Why? He just claimed that he's retired AND asking for his parents' green light to read internet forums - they don't want that ickle kiddie looks pr0n!
That is: he's probabily 75 and going senile, his parents are about 95-100, and he still lives at his parents' who treat him like a 13-age old.

i never claimed to be 13 i didnt say i asked my parents that i could go here just that they said it was pg13

u people cant read or when u do read you assume facts not stated.

i never claimed to be 13 i didnt say i asked my parents that i could go here just that they said it was pg13

u people cant read or when u do read you assume facts not stated.
Nobody can read what you type.

i never claimed to be 13 i didnt say i asked my parents that i could go here just that they said it was pg13

u people cant read or when u do read you assume facts not stated.

I must admit I have never before met any person of retirement age that uses "u" instead of "you". Pleased to meet you nevertheless.

[fail poster]
Your poster has a TL;DR caption that doesn't even match the image.


The proper caption is this:


http://vault10.webs.com/Evolution.png

u people cant read

Lol.

I must admit I have never before met any person of retirement age that uses "u" instead of "you". Pleased to meet you nevertheless.

what is retirement age?

what is retirement age?

65 for men in the U.K., so it's probably something similar in the U.S.

Yeah, but stupidity knows no bounds.

True. But it knows homelands. And one of the biggest is Texas.

65 for men in the U.K., so it's probably something similar in the U.S.
thats the only age you can retire at?

what is retirement age?

You tell me - you call other posters "boy", claim you're older than them and that you are retired ;)

You tell me - you call other posters "boy", claim you're older than them and that you are retired ;)

they are obviously teens/early 20s judging form there arrogence and naiveness.

they are obviously teens/early 20s judging form there arrogence and naiveness.

*snorts*
Nice one, mr Irony ;)

Wasn't there a state, somewhere in the USA, that once passed a law saying 'pi = 3'?

thats the only age you can retire at?

No, but that's when you're first eligible for a pension, unless you've been working for the civil service, army and a few others.

Wasn't there a state, somewhere in the USA, that once passed a law saying 'pi = 3'?

No, that was a joke article posted on April Fool's Day concerning Alabama changing pi due to a description of something inside Solomon's Temple.

No, but that's when you're first eligible for a pension, unless you've been working for the civil service, army and a few others.

is getting a pension the only way to retire?

is getting a pension the only way to retire?

If you were retired, you'd obviously know this. Therefore I can deduce you're not retired.

If you were retired, you'd obviously know this. Therefore I can deduce you're not retired.

um... i know but you dont seem to. i was askign a question to try to teach you to think.

I AM GOD.

How can you be G*D. I am JESUS, and you are not my Father.

...naiveness.

The word is naïveté

um... i know but you dont seem to. i was askign a question to try to teach you to think.

Sure you were.

Sure you were.

well, you seem to need some help there, you make assumptions based on stereotypes and your eurocentric ideas too much

No, that was a joke article posted on April Fool's Day concerning Alabama changing pi due to a description of something inside Solomon's Temple.Oh? I'd heard that it was a state in the northern Midwest, maybe Minnesota or Michigan, because this crazed mathematician offered to donate a lot of money to the state government if they added a clause containing lots of mathematical language -- in which this detail was buried -- to one of their new laws (but I did know about there being a Biblical reference to this equation...).

eurocentric

Uber fail. For one thing, I haven't mentioned Europe at all in this thread, and another, I'm fairly euro-sceptical, and not the EU's biggest fan.

Uber fail. For one thing, I haven't mentioned Europe at all in this thread, and another, I'm fairly euro-sceptical, and not the EU's biggest fan.

you assume your culture is everyones in many countries people do not leave home until after they graduate university

For instance, they want textbooks to suggest the theory of evolution is undercut by fossils that show some organisms -- such as ferns -- haven't changed much over millions of years.
I almost had an aneurysm caused by reading stupidity.

they are obviously teens/early 20s judging form there arrogence and naiveness.

"Naiveness" isn't a word, you arrogant clod.

you assume your culture is everyones in many countries people do not leave home until after they graduate university

And in how many countries do supposedly retired people talk in txt spk and discuss with their still living parents the appropriate age rating for an online forum?

God, the only thing possibly stupider than the Texas Education board are the dipshit voucher fanboys in the comments section.


In a free market, e.g., through a voucher system, parents could select private schools with a curriculum they find appropriate. Let's support evolution--of freedom!
I agree completely. One of the most egregious confiscations of our freedom by government is the government monopoly on pre-universtiy education. Vouchers is the only way out of this monopoly on thought.

Morbo has some words for them.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8830/nothowitworkswp2.jpg

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/26/texas-from-saved-to-doomed-in-just-6-hours/


So I don't know how the vote turned out today (The article is dated yesterday). But if it passed, this could have serious negative implications for science teaching standards not just in Texas, but in the rest of the country, due to Texas' status as an adoption state, where the state board purchases textbooks for the entire state's public schools. I really, really hope some people on the board find some common sense and shoot this thing down.

Thoughts?

Thats sad that something like that would pass. But it just goes to show you how ignorant many people are. I'm a religious guy, I believe in God and I'm not afraid to say it. But I think people who believe in creationism are dimwitted morons who need to take a decent science class....again building on the many, many, many flaws of the American education system. As many of you know, I'm extremely nationalistic, but I'll call out my country on problems I percieve, and education is a biggie (obviously).

And in how many countries do supposedly retired people talk in txt spk and discuss with their still living parents the appropriate age rating for an online forum?

Actually - how do the parents know the rating of this forum better than the poster? Are they here ?

Wasn't there a state, somewhere in the USA, that once passed a law saying 'pi = 3'?

I have heard claims that Alabama did that. However, it's false.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.asp

How can you be G*D. I am JESUS, and you are not my Father.

Luke... I am your father...

Luke... I am your father...

He cheated with your mother! Joseph isn't your father!:p

they are obviously teens/early 20s judging form there arrogence and naiveness.

It's sad that you need to be corrected by someone who isn't even a native speaker of your language, it really is, but "arrogance" and "naiveté".

Both of which you show and neither of which the people you have been humiliating yourself with do.

I always assumed the cancer started in Texas and spread north. :confused:

Here's hopin it doesnt go east

I have heard claims that Alabama did that. However, it's false.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.asp

It's probably based loosely on this linky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill)

what is retirement age?

thats the only age you can retire at?

is getting a pension the only way to retire?

um... i know but you dont seem to. i was askign a question to try to teach you to think.

well, you seem to need some help there, you make assumptions based on stereotypes and your eurocentric ideas too much

you assume your culture is everyones in many countries people do not leave home until after they graduate university

WOW! He knows how to type in ENGLISH!!! :eek: Guess his overcame his ld... :D

Actually - how do the parents know the rating of this forum better than the poster? Are they here ?
... you never can tell...
>.>
<.<

I always assumed the cancer started in Texas and spread north. :confused:
And where has GRIDS started?

you assume your culture is everyones in many countries people do not leave home until after they graduate university

What countries are these?

What countries are these?

I think he means this one (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=display_nation/nation=vanishing_shame)

What countries are these?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070912/adult_kids_070912/20070912/

canada

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070912/adult_kids_070912/20070912/

canada

I have a thread just for you... :p

I have heard claims that Alabama did that. However, it's false.

http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.aspAh. So, according to that article, the state "in the northern Midwest" that I was thinking of was actually Indiana -- shortly before 1900 -- but the bill in question failed to pass anyway...

"Naiveness" isn't a word, you arrogant clod.

Actually it is, though I prefer "naïveté".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/naiveness

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070912/adult_kids_070912/20070912/

canada

1. Canada is not "many" countries.
2. 44% isnt even the majority.

1. Canada is not "many" countries.
2. 44% isnt even the majority.

Unless we made it so! I propose a US led Coalition to Invade Canada to bring Freedom and Democracy to its many shores! ;)

Unless we made it so! I propose a US led Coalition to Invade Canada to bring Freedom and Democracy to its many shores! ;)
US could just issue an ultimatum to join it as a state. Resist a country that has more firepower than the rest of the world combined? No one's that foolish. Not when you're their vassal already anyway.

Resist a country that has more firepower than the rest of the world combined?

I beg to differ.

US could just issue an ultimatum to join it as a state. Resist a country that has more firepower than the rest of the world combined? No one's that foolish. Not when you're their vassal already anyway.

hahahaha.


Oooooh the only reason this isnt super funny is because you probably really believe it.

hahahaha.


Oooooh the only reason this isnt super funny is because you probably really believe it.

Srsly, lol...I was being way over the top and joking...

Although, when combined with these guys:

I beg to differ.

Id say its a possibility...

Wasn't there a state, somewhere in the USA, that once passed a law saying 'pi = 3'?

No. In the late 1800's the Indiana state government's lower house passed a bill to that effect, but their senate voted it down.

As much as I hate to admit it this kid does have a point.

Not about evolution but more about the creation of the universe. And I am not talking about that we say it was God or whatever.

What I am saying is that we shouldn't be saying the Big Bang was exactly how the universe started but rather the Big Bang is the most plausible theory we have to explain the origins of the universe.
They are. Well, they're not actually saying it. They're teaching children what a scientific theory is and what the scientific theory of the big bang is.
None. There is no reason to assume that the bugs even possess DNA.

They're the result of a society trying to solve their roach problem with nukes.

Gee thanks law makers of Texas. Now when I have kids I will have to leave the state, or send them to a non religious private school.

I'm so glad we live in Australia. The unfortunate thing is that many of our private schools teach this crap. I think it very hard on students at these schools that due to their parents' crackpot beliefs, these students are disadvantaged and stunted in their scientific development.

This.
Is.
NSG!!!

I'm sorry if this has already been done, but I couldn't be bothered looking through 26 pages of posts

*falls into giant pit of death

I'm so glad we live in Australia. The unfortunate thing is that many of our private schools teach this crap. I think it very hard on students at these schools that due to their parents' crackpot beliefs, these students are disadvantaged and stunted in their scientific development.

What private schools teach this? Must be a minority of schools like the Exclusive Brethren school.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/26/texas-from-saved-to-doomed-in-just-6-hours/


So I don't know how the vote turned out today (The article is dated yesterday). But if it passed, this could have serious negative implications for science teaching standards not just in Texas, but in the rest of the country, due to Texas' status as an adoption state, where the state board purchases textbooks for the entire state's public schools. I really, really hope some people on the board find some common sense and shoot this thing down.

Thoughts?

This is what the loudest portion of Americans would call progress in the right direction.

Actually - how do the parents know the rating of this forum better than the poster? Are they here?

... you never can tell...
>.>
<.<

Taking all bets for who the parent is.

Gee thanks law makers of Texas. Now when I have kids I will have to leave the state, or send them to a non religious private school.

Good luck with that. The large states set the nationwide textbook curriculum.

How so? How are the Abrahamic Religions ridiculous?

1. It's Texas. It's been backwards for quite some time now.
2. What about the many Christians that are for separation of Church and State, or what about the many Christians that believe that the Earth is, what was the latest number? 12 billion years old? I'm not much for history before man, so I'm rather uninformed as to the specifics.
3. It's friggin' Texas.
4. The dumbest people in a group are almost always the loudest.

You need to read this book:

http://kottke.org/07/09/the-braindead-megaphone

Gee thanks law makers of Texas. Now when I have kids I will have to leave the state, or send them to a non religious private school.

There's such thing a non-religious private school...? In the U.S.?

Yes, actually...there are a lot in my area.

There's such thing a non-religious private school...? In the U.S.?

Yes.

Yes, actually...there are a lot in my area.

Yes.

Homepages. NAO.

High Schools have homepages these days?

E: Christ this one took me way too long to find. (http://www.wheelerschool.org/default.asp?bhcp=1) I knew the name, it just didn't show up on a google search for some reason.

High Schools have homepages these days?

E: Christ this one took me way too long to find. (http://www.wheelerschool.org/default.asp?bhcp=1) I knew the name, it just didn't show up on a google search for some reason.

That loooks like one of those ultra-elite schools.

Unless we made it so! I propose a US led Coalition to Invade Canada to bring Freedom and Democracy to its many shores! ;)

Everyone loves Canada. Canada is like the worlds gay friend.


And i retired at 33.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/26/texas-from-saved-to-doomed-in-just-6-hours/


So I don't know how the vote turned out today (The article is dated yesterday). But if it passed, this could have serious negative implications for science teaching standards not just in Texas, but in the rest of the country, due to Texas' status as an adoption state, where the state board purchases textbooks for the entire state's public schools. I really, really hope some people on the board find some common sense and shoot this thing down.

Thoughts?
*sigh*

Can ANYTHING be done to stem the growing tide of anti-intellectualism and anti-evolution in this country?

*sigh*
Can ANYTHING be done to stem the growing tide of anti-intellectualism and anti-evolution in this country?
Yes.

Ban evolution.

*sigh*

Can ANYTHING be done to stem the growing tide of anti-intellectualism and anti-evolution in this country?

the states will implment these things until republicans get back in control of the federal congress.

Homepages. NAO.

They're called prep schools, generally.

Crystal Springs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Springs_Uplands_School) is one of the dearly-coveted ones in the Bay Area.

Its fucking true. Im getting real sick of certian posters only contributions to a thread being to scold other posters or complain about off topicness or the lack of content. Phycisian heal thy self.

The fact that you think you're qualified to complain about that is nothing short of fucking hilarious. But seriously, no one cares about your little feuds with other members.

How about the fact that I saw him die? Or is that not sufficient?

Not even close.

Actually, there was an exceedingly large flood about 10,000 years ago. Not global, but massive anyway.

Assuming the story was true and not allegorical, it wouldn't have had to have been truly worldwide. According to the story, humanity would've been gathered in mostly one place.

Yes.

Ban evolution.

No, no. We want to get rid of anti-intellectualism, not encourage it.

No, no. We want to get rid of anti-intellectualism, not encourage it.
Yes. You ban evolution, ban MENSA, ban other smartassery, and the anti-smartassists have nothing else to protest against.

*snip*

Im not sure if youre being serious...but, if you ban all the Smart people, you get left with a bunch of fricken Idiots...

Worse, White-Trash idiots on top of that...Believe me, Ive seen my fair share down here..

Yes. You ban evolution, ban MENSA, ban other smartassery, and the anti-smartassists have nothing else to protest against.

Until civilization collapses around them.

And they die.

Deservedly.

Until civilization collapses around them.

And they die.

Deservedly.

Can we create an intelligence version of Israel? Everyone who can pass a test gets citizenship, and we get to shoot at stupid people.

Can we create an intelligence version of Israel? Everyone who can pass a test gets citizenship, and we get to shoot at stupid people.

Hmmm....What kind of test will it be?

Can we create an intelligence version of Israel? Everyone who can pass a test gets citizenship, and we get to shoot at stupid people.

Only if we begin by the Texas Board of Education.

There's such thing a non-religious private school...? In the U.S.?

Um, yes - quite a few of them, in fact. I went to one for six years. It was nice.

Um, yes - quite a few of them, in fact. I went to one for six years. It was nice.

GET OUT!!! Really? lol

Non-Religious Americans, next you'll be telling me Unicorns roamed the west...Bah, lol...

Yes. You ban evolution, ban MENSA, ban other smartassery, and the anti-smartassists have nothing else to protest against.

Sort of like curing cancer by killing the patient, no?

Sort of like curing cancer by killing the patient, no?
Intellectualelitism aka pretending you're smarter than everyone else is the cancer that's killing /US/.

Intellectualelitism aka pretending you're smarter than everyone else is the cancer that's killing /US/.

I can absolutely guarantee you that "intellectualelitism" isn't the major problem our country faces in education.

Intellectualelitism aka pretending you're smarter than everyone else is the cancer that's killing /US/.

If you mean, the 'Everyone Else' to be supporters of Creationism, then yes, the other side is smarter than everyone else...

I can absolutely guarantee you that "intellectualelitism" isn't the major problem our country faces in education.
The education should just focus on the real-world stuff. How to fix your car, how to do the plumbing, how to maintain your house.

Keep egghead education in the college.

The education should just focus on the real-world stuff. How to fix your car, how to do the plumbing, how to maintain your house.

Because it's not like any of the other stuff could possibly be of any importance.

Keep egghead education in the college.

Keep pseudo-faith out of the primary school system.

The education should just focus on the real-world stuff. How to fix your car, how to do the plumbing, how to maintain your house.

Keep egghead education in the college.

"Egghead" education is what you should be learning in primary school where your mind is pliable and it doesn't fucking matter. Work applicable is what you should be learning in college instead of more pointless shit.

Also, given this statement:
Intellectualelitism aka pretending you're smarter than everyone else is the cancer that's killing /US/.
I find your self-righteous bitching ironic.

The education should just focus on the real-world stuff. How to fix your car, how to do the plumbing, how to maintain your house.

Keep egghead education in the college.

Some people believe that the purpose of primary education is to prepare students for secondary education.

Silly isn't it? ;)

Because it's not like any of the other stuff could possibly be of any importance.
It possibly might be.
The stuff I've mentioned definitely will be.


Keep pseudo-faith out of the primary school system.
We don't know if God exists or not, do we? So we can teach them the stuff God asked us to in the primary school. When they grow up, they'll decide for themselves whether to believe it or the round earth conspiracy.

The education should just focus on the real-world stuff. How to fix your car, how to do the plumbing, how to maintain your house.

Keep egghead education in the college.

It wouldn't work unless you added about 4 more years to college.

And you say "egghead" like it's a bad thing to be an intellectual.

I'm smart. I'm proud of it. Because if it were only up to the grunts, our "civilization" would be made up of idiots wielding stones and clubs, grunting at one another.

That's right. I'm an egghead. And I am one of the people responsible for keeping civilization running while Miss Motherfucking Moron from Texas tries to inject her idiotic belief system into it, and while idiot politicians use the word "egghead" and other anti-intellectualist BULLSHIT to try and attack people with whom they disagree. I am one of the people that prevents life as we know it from falling apart, because I am smart. I am one of the people that makes civilization more than a horde of grunting morons, I am one of the people that makes it possible for us to be even typing here, as opposed to grunting and driving points home with the help of clubs. I, sir, am an intellectual, and if it weren't for me and my kind, we, as a species, would either still be living in caves or be extinct altogether, due to our intelligence being our only advantage over other animals. The people who deride intellectuals are alive because of them!

So we can teach them the stuff God asked us to in the primary school.

Prove to me that God asked you to teach that shit.

We don't know if God exists or not, do we? So we can teach them the stuff God asked us to in the primary school.

Not in science class we won't.

That's right. I'm an egghead. And I am one of the people responsible for keeping civilization running while [...]
Please, could you tell me, what exactly are you doing?
And how it keeps the civilization running.

It possibly might be.
The stuff I've mentioned definitely will be.

Let the stupid learn those trades, so they at least have SOME use.

Let the stupid learn those trades, so they at least have SOME use.
You do have a car.
You do have a house.
Thus, you need to know this stuff.
(BTW, per the post above, tell me what are you doing that's so important).

I know I do (particularly I have rebuilt a car engine), and it saves a huge lot compared to calling in companies to fix every single glitch.
Most people do too.
Your fabled science classes, 75% of them they're skipping, the rest 25% they're not listening to anyway.

Please, could you tell me, what exactly are you doing?
And how it keeps the civilization running.

I'm a translator. You know that little book called the Bible? It was made accessible by us. You know the instructions to make the computer you're using? Likely translated from Japanese into English. That German-technology piece of the dam that keeps whatever river from making a lake out of your town? Translators made sure the usage and building procedures were written correctly, so the finest bit of rain wouldn't make your town into a Fargo.

I could go on.

You do have a car.
You do have a house.
Thus, you need to know this stuff.

I know I do (particularly I have rebuilt a car engine), and it saves a huge lot compared to calling in companies to fix every single glitch.
Most people do too.
Your fabled science classes, 75% of them they're skipping, the rest 25% they're not listening to anyway.

1- I don't.

2- I rent it. The landlord pays for what I need fixed. And when I put my mind to fixing it, I do so with surprising ease. Because I learned fluid dynamics. Because I learned electronics. Because, guess what, of my intellect.

I'm a translator. You know that little book called the Bible? It was made accessible by us.
Oh gosh.

And that is what you're doing.

You're translating the very book you don't want to be taught to our childer.


You know the instructions to make the computer you're using? Likely translated from Japanese into English.
I need instructions to use my computer? Oh big news. Seeing as I can disassemble and reassemble it an hour even blindfolded (all screw holes and slots can be easily felt). And I'm fairly certain my OS wasn't written in Japan either. Nor was the C++ compiler used to build its core.

We have outsourced production of some components we couldn't be bothered to make ourselves to the lesser nations, but that's pretty much it.


That German-technology piece of the dam that keeps whatever river from making a lake out of your town? Translators made sure the usage and building procedures were written correctly, so the finest bit of rain wouldn't make your town into a Fargo.
My town has existed for like... well, quite a while. And it certainly doesn't take any Nazi technology to stay not flooded. A decent and natural location, it is.
And the only positive effect your translations might have made is stealing jobs from our worker who could make that technology piece better, quicker, and more patriotically.


Now, if you were serving in the Navy, you could really be one of the people who keep the civilization running, by translating enemy communications. But you're not.
And your job isn't really important. The biggest failure you can make is to get some Japanese-made Hello Kitty Vibrator customer scream "Oh what a fail translation!" while reading the manual. Well, maybe get him to stick it in the wrong place... just kidding, you can't. The biggest success you can make is to get said customer think with enjoyment, "Didn't think they know English so well." That's it.

Are you seriously arguing that translators aren't important? SERIOUSLY!?

Oh gosh.

And that is what you're doing.

You're translating the very book you don't want to be taught to our childer.



I need instructions to use my computer? Oh big news. Seeing as I can disassemble and reassemble it an hour even blindfolded (all screw holes and slots can be easily felt). And I'm fairly certain my OS wasn't written in Japan either. Nor was the C++ compiler used to build its core.

We have outsourced production of some components we couldn't be bothered to make ourselves to the lesser nations, but that's pretty much it.



My town has existed for like... well, quite a while. And it certainly doesn't take any Nazi technology to stay not flooded. A decent and natural location, it is.
And the only positive effect your translations might have made is stealing jobs from our worker who could make that technology piece better, quicker, and more patriotically.


Now, if you were serving in the Navy, you could really be one of the people who keep the civilization running, by translating enemy communications. But you're not.
And your job isn't really important. The biggest failure you can make is to get some Japanese-made Hello Kitty Vibrator customer scream "Oh what a fail translation!" while reading the manual. Well, maybe get him to stick it in the wrong place... just kidding, you can't. The biggest success you can make is to get said customer think with enjoyment, "Didn't think they know English so well." That's it.

1- I'm not. Other translators did it. Besides, I just don't want it taught as dogmatism in Science class. But that seems like it's too much to ask from you.

2- The technology needed for it to run? In good part, Japanese. And made by intellectuals. Not by grunts.

3- "Nazi" Technology? More "patriotically"? First of all, I'm Brazilian. Second of all, that is so insane and absurd that I don't need to dignify it with an answer.

4- Translators also translate things such as standards for building houses. I myself did that once. That's right, bucko: One of the people you have to thank for your roof not falling on your head is a translator. Because a bad translation may perfectly well cause exactly that.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/03/26/texas-from-saved-to-doomed-in-just-6-hours/


So I don't know how the vote turned out today (The article is dated yesterday). But if it passed, this could have serious negative implications for science teaching standards not just in Texas, but in the rest of the country, due to Texas' status as an adoption state, where the state board purchases textbooks for the entire state's public schools. I really, really hope some people on the board find some common sense and shoot this thing down.

Thoughts?

my thoughts? they can be summed up as: FFS America, stop fucking around with this bullshit and join the 21st Century. do you actually like being laughed at (well, Texas, at least) by the rest of the world?

Are you seriously arguing that translators aren't important? SERIOUSLY!?

That bit of inane absurdity doesn't hold a candle to "Nazi technology" and "more patriotically".

Oh gosh.

Gee-wilikers!

My town has existed for like... well, quite a while. And it certainly doesn't take any Nazi technology to stay not flooded.

German tech = Nazi tech? lolwut.

A decent and natural location, it is.
And the only positive effect your translations might have made is stealing jobs from our worker who could make that technology piece better, quicker, and more patriotically.

How does one measure the patriotism of a dam? Does it spout things like Liberty Prime?

"DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE."?

I think he's trollan.

I think he's trollan.

If you think so, by all means, report him.

If you think so, by all means, report him.

No proof. But a comment like "could have built it... more patriotically" is too lulzy to be genuine.

I think he's trollan.

I got that impression myself...But, he's doing an excellent job of not being too obvious about it...I dont think the mods would get him...

Trollin! Trollin! Trollin!...Trollin! Trollin! Trollin!....

1- I'm not. Other translators did it.
Well, then it's your translatorkind that you should blame for Creationism being taught in schools.

2- The technology needed for it to run? In good part, Japanese. And made by intellectuals. Not by grunts.
Virtually entirely, American. Japanese just make the stuff cheaper.


4- Translators also translate things such as standards for building houses. I myself did that once. That's right, bucko: One of the people you have to thank for your roof not falling on your head is a translator.
My house was built well before the illiterate immigrant influx. It didn't need any translators to make it. Just proper blue-collar masons, steelworkers, concreteworkers. All of them speaking our common language.

CONGRESS shall make no law. Doesn't say anything about individual states.

The Supreme Court has ruled time and again that the Fourteenth Amendment applies the Bill of Rights to the states. The First Amendment would therefore apply to Texas and to the other 49 states.

Well, then it's your translatorkind that you should blame for Creationism being taught in schools.


Virtually entirely, American. Japanese just make the stuff cheaper.



My house was built well before the illiterate immigrant influx. It didn't need any translators to make it. Just proper blue-collar masons, steelworkers, concreteworkers. All of them speaking our common language.

1- Right, just like Einstein is to blame for Hiroshima. :rolleyes:

2- I see, so you're disclaiming any knowledge of computers as well. Okay.

3- Regardless of your displayed inability to grasp even the simplest of examples (afterwards calling other people illiterate is not a good idea, but I digress), I would feel obliged to point out that the technology needed to build your house - or even to build the ship on which your family came to America - at some point most likely required a translation.

Let the stupid learn those trades, so they at least have SOME use.

Are you really trying to say that people who are tradies are dumbasses? I thought better of you, H2.

How does one measure the patriotism of a dam?
By the patriotism its builders have put into creating it.

If the dam collapses before its projected lifetime is over, more likely than not, it has been built with foreign labor that couldn't care less about our country.

3- Regardless of your displayed inability to grasp even the simplest of examples (afterwards calling other people illiterate is not a good idea, but I digress),
Well, if they were literate, why would they need a translator.


I would feel obliged to point out that the technology needed to build your house
Has been known since the Ancient Romans, who took it with them, and was later reinvented independently in all major nations.


or even to build the ship on which your family came to America - at some point most likely required a translation.
Are you aware what used to be the greatest seafaring nation before US?
Great Britain.
Well, if we measure by innovations, it comes after France and Russia, but Britain took no tips from abroad, it developed everything on its own these days.

By the patriotism its builders have put into creating it.

If the dam collapses before its projected lifetime is over, more likely than not, it has been built with foreign labor that couldn't care less about our country.

Then explain the Pyramids. ;)

Then explain the Pyramids. ;)

The Aliens Built them to structure the return of Zombie Ramses who foretold the rise of Raptor Jesus

Actually, there was an exceedingly large flood about 10,000 years ago. Not global, but massive anyway.

Isn't that the theory on the formation of the Black Sea's current form?

By the patriotism its builders have put into creating it.

If the dam collapses before its projected lifetime is over, more likely than not, it has been built with foreign labor that couldn't care less about our country.

So then a Toyota is way more patriotic than, say, a Dodge?

Well, if they were literate, why would they need a translator.

日本語を話せますか？ なし？ Then you need a translator.





(used google because I was drawing a blank O_o....)

So then a Toyota is way more patriotic than, say, a Dodge?

I support this statement...Fuck the Big Three....

Although, id prefer you buy Nissan...disregard the fact that their factory is in my State..

Then explain the Pyramids. ;)
Local labor.


So then a Toyota is way more patriotic than, say, a Dodge?
Have to admit it - yes, it is.

I support this statement...Fuck the Big Three....

Although, id prefer you buy Nissan...disregard the fact that their factory is in my State..

No thanks. I'm quite happy with my Mazda, actually. :)

Have to admit it - yes, it is.

Ah, b-

I mean, how d-

Um... well shit.

Local labor.




There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...

There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...

They'd be wrong. Given what we know, the events of Exodus would have most likely occurred around Middle or New Kingdom. The pyramids were built in the Old Kingdom.

They'd be wrong. Given what we know, the events of Exodus would have most likely occurred around Middle or New Kingdom. The pyramids were built in the Old Kingdom.

True, true..Doesnt mean they wouldnt however, lol...

There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...
And probably could have a few things to say about 911 and 2001, too.

There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...

doesn't archeology disagree with them though?

he is not a troll. a troll posts to make you angry.

he is an attention whore. an attention whore posts to get as much attention as possible.

Or, in the case of my cat, purrs for unending attention. :p

But then, most of the housecats I've run across are natural attention whores.

Are you really trying to say that people who are tradies are dumbasses? I thought better of you, H2.

Nope. I meant these trades are all stupid people can do, not that intelligent people can't do them.

By the patriotism its builders have put into creating it.

If the dam collapses before its projected lifetime is over, more likely than not, it has been built with foreign labor that couldn't care less about our country.

I see.

You are speaking bullshit.

There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...

What so they imported people to build the pyramids?

Nope. I meant these trades are all stupid people can do, not that intelligent people can't do them.
Which is quite in line with what I said. And which is why they should be taught in school to both low and high intelligence students. Because both will find these things useful.

In the grey bar near the top of the screen, far left is UserCP. In UserCP in the menu on the left hand side of the screen is Edit Ignore List. Just type in the beginning of the particular person you wish to ignore and a list will appear of people with names beginning that way. Select the person. It might take a couple of minutes to be effective.

Is quite distracting if you have more than a couple of people on ignore. So I would suggest it is only really worth using for the sort of debater who spends all their time making Ad Hominem attacks, shouting down other posters rather than making well thought out and evidenced points.

Many thanks. :)

No, that was a joke article posted on April Fool's Day concerning Alabama changing pi due to a description of something inside Solomon's Temple.

Idea: Legally define pi as a delicious dessert.

Oh wait... That's pie. Never mind. :$

I almost had an aneurysm caused by reading stupidity.

Ferns: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And where has GRIDS started?

It's AIDS, and it's believed to have started in sub-Saharan Africa.

There are several followers of Judaism who may disagree with you there...

Slave labor was rarely if ever used in state construction projects. Peasants worked as part of their tax burden. Ancient Egyptians pretty much kept their slaves at home, for that kind of stuff.

Source: Educational articles placed within Pharaoh.

Slave labor was rarely if ever used in state construction projects. Peasants worked as part of their tax burden. Ancient Egyptians pretty much kept their slaves at home, for that kind of stuff.

Source: Historical articles placed within Pharaoh.

I didnt say it was true, I said followers of Judaism would disagree...

I didnt say it was true, I said followers of Judaism would disagree...

Just a reference for anyone stumbling upon this thread.

Just a reference for anyone stumbling upon this thread.

KK...Carry on then, lol...

By the patriotism its builders have put into creating it.

If the dam collapses before its projected lifetime is over, more likely than not, it has been built with foreign labor that couldn't care less about our country.

You're completely factoring out corruption, greed and incompetence inherent in the people sponsoring such projects I see. The citizenry who sponsored said projects I might add.

I got that impression myself...But, he's doing an excellent job of not being too obvious about it...I dont think the mods would get him...

Trollin! Trollin! Trollin!...Trollin! Trollin! Trollin!....
I once called him (to his cyber-face) a "high function troll." It's why I've had him on ignore for about a year. It's not helping much in this thread, though...

Or, in the case of my cat, purrs for unending attention. :p

But then, most of the housecats I've run across are natural attention whores.
Are you suggesting that V10 happened because someone taught a cat to type? :eek:

Are you suggesting that V10 happened because someone taught a cat to type? :eek:

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I knew it was a bad idea...

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I knew it was a bad idea...
Even as you were doing it. CLOWN!!!

It never ceases to amaze me that some people absolutly positivley beleive one thing without a shred of evidence provided to support the claims and will then disregard all the opposing evidence to the contrary; I personally fear nothing more than being trapped in my own mind but apparantly many people find it comforting.

Nope. I meant these trades are all stupid people can do, not that intelligent people can't do them.

Your posts suggested otherwise, however, the point I am trying to get at is that you say that because you are an intellectual you help make the world go around because you are a translator. Now what I would also like to point out is that tradies are also in the same boat and helping to make the world go around because without them we would not be able to construct buildings, fabricate vehicles and even come and fix our cars when they break down.

Actually thinking about this reminds me of A hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, where our traveller came across the ship full of the middle people, after they had been sent away by the intellectuals and the workers because they were not needed for a functioning society, however the other two groups were.

Yes I haven't seen it for about 8 years now but if you have seen it then you will know what I am on about.

Snip.

*Sigh*

Look, I had to deal with V10.

*Sigh*

Look, I had to deal with V10.

I don't really know V10's posting history.

*Sigh*

Look, I had to deal with V10.

Why? Ignoring trolls is usually more effective than giving them attention.

Your posts suggested otherwise, however, the point I am trying to get at is that you say that because you are an intellectual you help make the world go around because you are a translator. Now what I would also like to point out is that tradies are also in the same boat and helping to make the world go around because without them we would not be able to construct buildings, fabricate vehicles and even come and fix our cars when they break down.

Actually thinking about this reminds me of A hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, where our traveller came across the ship full of the middle people, after they had been sent away by the intellectuals and the workers because they were not needed for a functioning society, however the other two groups were.

Yes I haven't seen it for about 8 years now but if you have seen it then you will know what I am on about.

Intellectuals? The useless third was, if I recall, made up of "hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, management consultants, telephone sanitizers and the like".

Furthermore, as a complete counterpoint to that example, it's also stated that the other two-thirds "led full, rich and happy lives until they were all suddenly wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone".

Well I suppose Texas has to claim the biggest everything, including fools.You Forgot Poland ... erm, Alaska.

Yes. You ban evolution, ban MENSA, ban other smartassery, and the anti-smartassists have nothing else to protest against.

And completely ruin humanity's progress over the last couple of hundred years.

Yes. You ban evolution, ban MENSA, ban other smartassery, and the anti-smartassists have nothing else to protest against.

Diana Moon Glampers (http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html) I presume ?

Intellectuals? The useless third was, if I recall, made up of "hairdressers, tired TV producers, insurance salesmen, personnel officers, security guards, management consultants, telephone sanitizers and the like".

Isn't that what I said? The middle ones were sent away by the intellectuals and the workers.

Furthermore, as a complete counterpoint to that example, it's also stated that the other two-thirds "led full, rich and happy lives until they were all suddenly wiped out by a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone".

lol and this is why I love Douglas Adams. I forgot about that it has been awhile since I have seen it.

Isn't that what I said? The middle ones were sent away by the intellectuals and the workers.

Ah, indeed it is. I simply fail at reading.

*bows* As you were.

lol and this is why I love Douglas Adams. I forgot about that it has been awhile since I have seen it.

See? So even they make society go. :tongue: