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Gauntleted Fist
19-10-2008, 21:20
yea, but you haven't seen Bob, he's like 10 Rambos put together.So, he's ten impostors? Ten times the fail. Epic. :p
Nanatsu no Tsuki
19-10-2008, 21:33
I do no know country backgrounds for every NSGer so I cannot make funny jokes about their home country.

Damn French...

*clears throat*

Spaniard, I´m a Spaniard, know thyself!:mad:



:D
Gavin113
19-10-2008, 21:39
Canadian Military Motto: An Army of One. His name is Bob.

Soon he may be joined by Joe "the plumber".
Gauntleted Fist
19-10-2008, 21:43
*clears throat*

Spaniard, I´m a Spaniard, know thyself!:mad:



:DI do not know myself. I fail. :(
Nanatsu no Tsuki
19-10-2008, 21:44
I do not know myself. I fail. :(

Well, try taking the gauntlet off.
Gauntleted Fist
19-10-2008, 21:46
Well, try taking the gauntlet off.It's wrapped in silk, and it's a bitch to get off. :p
New Manvir
19-10-2008, 21:50
So, he's ten impostors? Ten times the fail. Epic. :p

:p

That's what you think. Don't mess with Bob, alright. He'll tear your American military to shreds with his bare hands. Why do you think the Soviets never invaded from the Arctic, cause of Bob....think about it...
Nanatsu no Tsuki
19-10-2008, 21:52
:p

That's what you think. Don't mess with Bob, alright. He'll tear your American military to shreds with his bare hands. Why do you think the Soviets never invaded from the Arctic, cause of Bob....think about it...

I thought it was because of Crocodile Dundee.:tongue:
Gauntleted Fist
19-10-2008, 21:54
:p

That's what you think. Don't mess with Bob, alright. He'll tear your American military to shreds with his bare hands. Why do you think the Soviets never invaded from the Arctic, cause of Bob....think about it...I think the Soviets just, you know, ignored Canada. :)
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 01:31
I think the Soviets just, you know, ignored Canada. :)

Actually, no. There's a reason Canada joined with the U.S. for defensive reasons.

As a matter of fact, the only reason Canada doesn't really have much in the way of a military now is that we Americans take care of it. Otherwise, Canucks would have a first-class military. (They've always been the best of warriors, after all. People may laugh, but it's true.)
Neesika
20-10-2008, 01:36
Or, we simply don't buy into the military culture you USians have going on.
The Cat-Tribe
20-10-2008, 01:42
Meh. We've got Disneyland and Jesus Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp).

What does Canada got other than horny members of First Nations?

:D
Anti-Social Darwinism
20-10-2008, 01:43
Meh. We've got Disneyland and Jesus Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Camp).

What does Canada got other than horny members of First Nations?

:D

This

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley_Do-Right
Gavin113
20-10-2008, 01:45
Or, we simply don't buy into the military culture you USians have going on.

Or it could be you have no potentially hostile countrys to worry about. Because your country is at the end of the world, and the U.S. your only neighbor has no interest in Canadian teritory.
The Cat-Tribe
20-10-2008, 01:47
This

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley_Do-Right

Isn't that a U.S. cartoon?
Anti-Social Darwinism
20-10-2008, 01:51
Isn't that a U.S. cartoon?

Well, yes, but Dudley Do-Right is a Canadian Mountie, isn't he? Or how about Sergeant Preston of the Yukon?
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 01:55
Or, we simply don't buy into the military culture you USians have going on.

That, and you don't really have any enemies per se.

As was said: Everyone likes Canada. :)
The Cat-Tribe
20-10-2008, 02:11
Well, yes, but Dudley Do-Right is a Canadian Mountie, isn't he? Or how about Sergeant Preston of the Yukon?

I see. It is all part of the nefarious propaganda machine trying to indoctrinate our children in filthy canuck ways.

(Sergeant Preston? You're too old to be on the interweb. :p:wink:)
Gauntleted Fist
20-10-2008, 02:18
That, and you don't really have any enemies per se.

As was said: Everyone likes Canada. :)Canada is like a violent Switzerland. :)
They get into all the wars, but nobody bothers them before/after. :p
Gavin113
20-10-2008, 03:53
Canada is like a violent Switzerland. :)
They get into all the wars, but nobody bothers them before/after. :p

Well the swiss are easy to explain the other country is busy trying to payback all the money they borrowed from switzerland to make war on the swiss. Eureka thats why the swiss start wars MONEY!!!!!!
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 05:15
Well the swiss are easy to explain the other country is busy trying to payback all the money they borrowed from switzerland to make war on the swiss. Eureka thats why the swiss start wars MONEY!!!!!!

Actually, it's more to do with both the terrain--Switzerland is one of the most mountainous countries on Earth--as well as the necessity of a neutral place for everyone to discuss things in.

Plus, banking. :)
Gavin113
20-10-2008, 05:16
Actually, it's more to do with both the terrain--Switzerland is one of the most mountainous countries on Earth--as well as the necessity of a neutral place for everyone to discuss things in.

Plus, banking. :)

Here I was making a sarcastic crack and you had to go and get all serious.
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 05:29
Here I was making a sarcastic crack and you had to go and get all serious.

It's what I do.
DaWoad
20-10-2008, 06:43
Actually Switzerland is awesome. Not only will none else invade them cause everyone else has money banked there and would swarm to protect it. but also anyone attempting to invade would suddenly find all the funding for their troops had been yanked and their tanks were in the process of being Repo'd .. .by the swiss lmao.
DaWoad
20-10-2008, 06:48
Or it could be you have no potentially hostile countrys to worry about. Because your country is at the end of the world, and the U.S. your only neighbor has no interest in Canadian teritory.

we have oil. The Americans tried to invade once already. history. .. . learn it.
Gift-of-god
20-10-2008, 15:01
That, and you don't really have any enemies per se.

As was said: Everyone likes Canada. :)

And why does everyone like it?

Many reasons, including the fact that 'we simply don't buy into the military culture you USians have going on.'
Free United States
20-10-2008, 16:29
we have oil. The Americans tried to invade once already. history. .. . learn it.

Yeah, just ask Gen. Harrison or Oliver Hazard Perry...
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 17:52
And why does everyone like it?

Many reasons, including the fact that 'we simply don't buy into the military culture you USians have going on.'

That's the fault of the military industrial complex. Everyone had one through World War II, but ours didn't get taken out or destroyed or otherwise had to be retooled to help rebuild, so it kinda tanked for a bit till Eisenhower and company provided a way to keep it going: Boogeymen.

That, and it's also part of our way of making up for lacking a unifying cultural ethnicity thing, like being Cornish or Bavarian or Basque or whatever.
Gavin113
20-10-2008, 18:24
we have oil. The Americans tried to invade once already. history. .. . learn it.


I understand that, but that invasion was 200 years ago and had nothing to do with oil. So I will repeat
America has no interest in Canadian territory in present day to say it does well is kind of ludicrous. It had to do with eliminating foriegn influence(partuculary England) in the new world. Since America no longer sees European influence as a threat no interest in canada for 200 years, and because of that no need for Canada to have any signifigant military. Because you have no hostility directed at your country. Ever hear of the longest unguarded border in the word hmm where could that be???

Why bring up events that happened hundreds of years ago as if they are monumentally signifigant. When they are not.
Gift-of-god
20-10-2008, 18:26
That's the fault of the military industrial complex. Everyone had one through World War II, but ours didn't get taken out or destroyed or otherwise had to be retooled to help rebuild, so it kinda tanked for a bit till Eisenhower and company provided a way to keep it going: Boogeymen.

That, and it's also part of our way of making up for lacking a unifying cultural ethnicity thing, like being Cornish or Bavarian or Basque or whatever.

Pssssst.

Canada's military infrastructure also wasn't destroyed after WWII, nor do we have a single unifying ethnicity.
New Wallonochia
20-10-2008, 18:29
nor do we have a single unifying ethnicity.

No, but you are pretty unified in not being US-American.
Gift-of-god
20-10-2008, 18:32
No, but you are pretty unified in not being US-American.

That would imply that the rest of the world is also pretty unified in that way.
Borman Empire
20-10-2008, 18:39
Unlike our worthles commie brethern to the North, our elections actually matter and the decision of who will rule the greatest nation in the world isn't a choice that can be made on a whim. Our country doesn't suck, and therefore we lack the lxury of being able to quickly select a leader in a "Business like" fashion - our choice actually matters.

That doesn't make you better at all, just makes you more of a nation of heathen savages, terrible in the sack, and destined for the pits of hell.

Oh wow, you guys can murder, congrats!

So? Did no one ever tell you, drugs are bad.

That's because you're a bunch of commie bastards, you have less people, less important people, less laws, and you like to redistribute the wealth so everyone shuts up. Of course you do. You still suck.

Not one single person in the U.S. has to involve themselves with that absolutely terrible idea of socialized health care. No one needs to drive miles upon miles to get to a government health center and die waiting in line to have someone examine their ear.

Clearly she, like anyone with intellect, preferred our nation because it's far superior. Go enjoy Cuba, your commie brethern will welcome you. Try to have you orgies in tubs of maple syrup - it gets a lot stickier than normal. We'll stick to our wild (and good) sex including orgies in real hot tubs with hookers and coke.

Canada sucks
The Atlantian islands
20-10-2008, 18:52
I like Canada and know it to be a good place with good normal people, (I ignore a few of the awful Canadians on this site, and take pride in the fact that most Canadians are not like them) who are rather like us, to be honest. I hardly could tell the difference between Seattle and Vancouver, for example. The people were almost exactly the same...and Canadians that I've met traveling I could have easily mistaken for Americans, notably Americans from the northern Northern Mid-West and the Pacific North West.

(All that has to do with Anglo-Canadians)

Also, I think a major difference is that Canadians have more trust in government than Americans do, with good reason. Our country was formed by people trying to limit the power of government and create a society with limited government and maximum freedom, Canada didn't have the same "founding". That's not to say that's a bad thing for Canadians, as their government works and is less corrupt than ours is, usually.

And finally I think that Canadians aren't as militaristic as we are and are more diplomatic, which makes them a little more popular, internationally. :p
Also, Canada claimed it would only go to war in Iraq if the U.N. signed off on the Iraq war. This made them seem more peaceful and less "cowboy" than America.

However, it must be noted that Canada is still a loyal ally and has fought alongside the U.S. through most of American/Canadian military history:

WWI
WWII
Korean War
Gulf War
Afghanistan

Not to mentio various military missions around the globe for Peace Keeping since WWII.

Canada has a military and does use it.

Canada also really helped the Vietnam war, notably Canadian industry which sold many war-materials to the U.S. and Canadian citizens who fought in Vietnam even if their country didn't by fighting for the American forces. Americans did this in WWI and WWII by fighting for the Canadians while America was still neutral.

We have a strong alliance and a long and common military history, regardless of what Bush's lack of political tact did to damage it. I quite like Canada. :)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 18:53
Unlike our worthles commie brethern to the North, our elections actually matter and the decision of who will rule the greatest nation in the world isn't a choice that can be made on a whim. Our country doesn't suck, and therefore we lack the lxury of being able to quickly select a leader in a "Business like" fashion - our choice actually matters.

That doesn't make you better at all, just makes you more of a nation of heathen savages, terrible in the sack, and destined for the pits of hell.

Oh wow, you guys can murder, congrats!

So? Did no one ever tell you, drugs are bad.

That's because you're a bunch of commie bastards, you have less people, less important people, less laws, and you like to redistribute the wealth so everyone shuts up. Of course you do. You still suck.

Not one single person in the U.S. has to involve themselves with that absolutely terrible idea of socialized health care. No one needs to drive miles upon miles to get to a government health center and die waiting in line to have someone examine their ear.

Clearly she, like anyone with intellect, preferred our nation because it's far superior. Go enjoy Cuba, your commie brethern will welcome you. Try to have you orgies in tubs of maple syrup - it gets a lot stickier than normal. We'll stick to our wild (and good) sex including orgies in real hot tubs with hookers and coke.

Canada sucks

That opinion of yours is shared by many, only inversely: America sucks.:wink:

If I were you though, I would be a bit more careful with expressing your opinion. Both Canada (and I've never been to Canuckland) and the US (I've been there several times), have their pros and cons.
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 19:05
Pssssst.

Canada's military infrastructure also wasn't destroyed after WWII, nor do we have a single unifying ethnicity.

And Canada didn't have leaders who sought to keep it going, either.

(The ethnicity thing is totally unrelated.)
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 19:07
america sucks.:wink:
.
:(
New Wallonochia
20-10-2008, 19:08
That would imply that the rest of the world is also pretty unified in that way.

Canada is uniquely defined by their not being the US. Canada has always been afraid of being swallowed up by their huge neighbor, politically and culturally. Canadians have spent a great deal of energy trying to differentiate themselves from the US, so much so that the struggle to differentiate themselves has turned into a facet of Canadian identity.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
20-10-2008, 19:09
.
:(

Did I make Ky-kun sad?!:(
It wasn't my intention. I was just pointing something out.
:fluffle:
Kyronea
20-10-2008, 19:23
Canada is uniquely defined by their not being the US. Canada has always been afraid of being swallowed up by their huge neighbor, politically and culturally. Canadians have spent a great deal of energy trying to differentiate themselves from the US, so much so that the struggle to differentiate themselves has turned into a facet of Canadian identity.

It honestly makes me wonder how world politics would be different if Canada were a part of the U.S., having joined with us somehow at some point in history. (Yes, I know that would butterfly a very different present 2008 depending upon when it happened. Don't care.)

Did I make Ky-kun sad?!:(
It wasn't my intention. I was just pointing something out.
:fluffle:

This, I know. http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/uploads/ipbfree.com/generalitemafia/emo-Hug_emoticon.gif
Neesika
20-10-2008, 21:41
Canada is uniquely defined by their not being the US. Canada has always been afraid of being swallowed up by their huge neighbor, politically and culturally. Canadians have spent a great deal of energy trying to differentiate themselves from the US, so much so that the struggle to differentiate themselves has turned into a facet of Canadian identity.

Which is funny because you could blindfold most Canadians, drop them anywhere in the US, and said Canuks would know pretty much immediately that the were no longer in Canada.

The 'myth' is that Canadians and USians are essentially culturally the same. Only someone who has never spent any actual time in both countries could make such an idiotic claim. Well...them and culturally blind USians.
Kyronea
21-10-2008, 00:59
Which is funny because you could blindfold most Canadians, drop them anywhere in the US, and said Canuks would know pretty much immediately that the were no longer in Canada.

The 'myth' is that Canadians and USians are essentially culturally the same. Only someone who has never spent any actual time in both countries could make such an idiotic claim. Well...them and culturally blind USians.

Exactly how different are we? (Honest question, wanting to know the full extent of the differences.)
Neesika
21-10-2008, 01:07
Exactly how different are we? (Honest question, wanting to know the full extent of the differences.)

...

Just freaking visit Canada for a while, okay?
Ostroeuropa
21-10-2008, 01:07
Canada is more british.
Therefore, it is inherently better.

(lawls at this post due to accusations of racism in another thread)
Grave_n_idle
21-10-2008, 01:11
Exactly how different are we? (Honest question, wanting to know the full extent of the differences.)

Canadians say 'eh' a lot, and can't pronounce the word 'about'.

Yes. I learned everything I know about the world from either The Simpsons, or Southpark...
Kyronea
21-10-2008, 01:21
...

Just freaking visit Canada for a while, okay?

:(

Okay...
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 01:22
...

Just freaking visit Canada for a while, okay?

Which part? Canada is no more culturally homogeneous than the U.S.
Neesika
21-10-2008, 01:26
Which part? Canada is no more culturally homogeneous than the U.S.

Considering we have only 30 million people compared to 300 million, yeah, we're a metric fuckload of a lot more culturally homogenous than the US.

You'll find people in the Prairies tend to be pretty similar to one another, Northerners are similar to one another, people in the Maritimes are fairly similar etc. We have our regional difference for sure, but nothing like what you have in the US.

But that's not the point. Whatever you poorly travelled people would like to claim, the US is just different, in so many odd ways.

We might watch the same Hollywood movies, we might share certain sports, speak the same language, but our differences are far from superficial.

Thank that imaginary sky faerie.
Solarlandus
21-10-2008, 01:27
The 'myth' is that Canadians and USians are essentially culturally the same. Only someone who has never spent any actual time in both countries could make such an idiotic claim. Well...them and culturally blind USians.

Qute right. For example it is a matter of public record that Freedom of Speech is an American value and that therefore Canadians are obliged to suffer without it. :)

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/04/freedom-of-speech-is-american-concept.html
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 01:29
Considering we have only 30 million people compared to 300 million, yeah, we're a metric fuckload of a lot more culturally homogenous than the US.

You'll find people in the Prairies tend to be pretty similar to one another, Northerners are similar, the Maritimes are fairly similar etc.

But that's not the point. Whatever you poorly travelled people would like to claim, the US is just different, in so many odd ways.

We might watch the same Hollywood movies, we might share certain sports, speak the same language, but our differences are far from superficial.

Thank that imaginary sky faerie.

I don't recall ever saying that Canada and the U.S. were that similar.
Neesika
21-10-2008, 01:31
I don't recall ever saying that Canada and the U.S. were that similar.

You're lucky, cuz I feel like biting someone's head off.
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 01:34
You're lucky, cuz I feel like biting someone's head off.

Well, feel free to snap away if ya want. :D
Neesika
21-10-2008, 01:37
Well, feel free to snap away if ya want. :D

No, willing victims are no fun.
Gavin113
21-10-2008, 01:37
You're lucky, cuz I feel like biting someone's head off.

BAHAHAHA. You act like being American is like being a leper. We are really not that bad I promise I wont devour your children. (puts on Bib grabs child, fork, and knife):D Must eat Canadians!!!!
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 01:40
BAHAHAHA. You act like being American is like being a leper. We are really not that bad I promise I wont devour your children. (puts on Bib grabs child, fork, and knife):D Must eat Canadians!!!!

Well, she's admitted being in a pissy mood...
Neesika
21-10-2008, 01:41
BAHAHAHA. You act like being American is like being a leper. We are really not that bad I promise I wont devour your children. (puts on Bib grabs child, fork, and knife):D Must eat Canadians!!!!
Don't get me wrong...there are two USians I want to marry when polygamy becomes legal in Canada.

But the fact that I don't dislike most USians I come across does not mean I for a second feel that we are culturally similar.
New Manvir
21-10-2008, 01:42
BAHAHAHA. You act like being American is like being a leper. We are really not that bad I promise I wont devour your children. (puts on Bib grabs child, fork, and knife):D Must eat Canadians!!!!

I heard you guys attract bears.
Gavin113
21-10-2008, 01:44
Don't get me wrong...there are two USians I want to marry when polygamy becomes legal in Canada.

But the fact that I don't dislike most USians I come across does not mean I for a second feel that we are culturally similar.

Who cares if we are culturally similar. Culture similarity is Boring it leads to conformism. WHICH BORES ME. It is fun to experience cultural differences. Culture shock is one of my favorite human reactions.
Gavin113
21-10-2008, 01:45
I heard you guys attract bears.

ROAARR we are bears where i live the CHICAGO BEARS.:hail:
Uiri
21-10-2008, 01:56
Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

Crime rates, the imperfect statistic.

Would you rather live where people report crime or are too scared to report it, hm?

No, no, no...canadian bacon is the funny bit that comes to the side of the american bacon. It's inferior to the american bacon. It also requires the USAF to cover its ass.



It's not that it's inedible or anything. I've eaten it; were I to find myself in dire need of protein, I'd eat it again.

No. Y'all have it wrong.

Canadian bacon is the proper name for back bacon.

Let's see, let me count hte ways the USA is better then Canada...

1. *Stereotypical, required American comment about Canadian accents*

2. You still have a Queen.:D

3. It's F-ing COLD up there!

4. We have more in the way of Freedom of speech.

5. And less gun control.

6. Our history is, let's face it, way more interesting then Canadian history.:p

7. We own Al Gore, who invented the internet.:D

Ways Canada is better then the US:

1. Food. ALL the food up there is better.

2. Rush and Priestess are both Canadian.

3. #2 counts twice because of the sheer awesomeness of those bands.

4. #2 counts three times actually, just cuase I love Rush so much.

5. Syrup. you can't get good syrup ANYWHERE here in the States, at least not in the twenty or so states I've visited.

6. Neesika is from Canada.:D

7. Their elections do not DRAG ON FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! GAH!

The killing blow to Canada:

Despite what everyone says, no one really cares about Canada.

Please note that most of this is in jest.

But not the last part.:D

What aboat the accent?

Atleast we know who to put on our money.

Snow > everything else

what do you mean?

Not so much gun control, actually.

Al Gore invented teh internets? I thought France invented teh internets?

You forgot poutines.


:confused:

Considering that you have to have someone in an office, no matter how ceremonial, until they die, I don't think I'd want her.

*Does not deserve to be frozen to death every winter*

I'll give you that. Although not willingly.

I'm pretty sure we have less gun control then you do. Feel free to try to prove me wrong.

Never! I'd rather be dieing and interested, then bored and alive.:D

Why do you hate teh interwebz? And freedom?

Bah. Darn Canadian generosity. It'll lead to Communism one day, mark my words! *rants about how the commies are going to take over*

Five, last time I counted.:D

Don't worry! I'm working on the Commuism bit! We'll be more capitalist than y'all if I get my way.

As opposed to CANADIAN bacon, which is.... ham.

Smoked & cured ham is bacon no matter how you look at it.

so . . .taking time didn't help then?


IT is. . .oh man! That being said, we've had it longer :D


Illegally . .. probably . . .legally, no


Dunno . . .I think we may have a better PPP than California.



I'd still rather live in the place with the lower crime rate.

So you'd rather be - perhaps - frightened to death of reporting crime?

We have Delta Force, Army Special Forces, Marine Force Recon, and the Army Rangers (Airborne, as well).
Canadians have, what, JTF2?
In essence, our entire military is "done right". Not to say that they're perfect. *insert deity here* knows that they aren't.

Prediction of CAD$21 Billion spent on Afghanistan war once its over. We need recruits 'tis all.


More to come!
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 01:59
As to cultural similarity...
Depending upon what measuring stick you use it can be said that the U.S. and Canada are culturally similar...

It has to be in comparison though, for example:

U.S.A & Russia vs. U.S.A. & Canada

There is much greater cultural similarity between the U.S. and Canada than there is between the U.S. and Russia
Kyronea
21-10-2008, 04:25
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=643

Relevant comic.
DaWoad
21-10-2008, 04:48
So you'd rather be - perhaps - frightened to death of reporting crime?


nope I like living right where I am . . .. you know where I'd report crime. . .but there's nothing to report
New Wallonochia
21-10-2008, 10:51
Which is funny because you could blindfold most Canadians, drop them anywhere in the US, and said Canuks would know pretty much immediately that the were no longer in Canada.

The 'myth' is that Canadians and USians are essentially culturally the same. Only someone who has never spent any actual time in both countries could make such an idiotic claim. Well...them and culturally blind USians.

I lived in Sault Sainte Marie for two years (and if you've ever been there you'd know that no one in their right mind would spend their free time in Soo, MI rather than Soo, ON) and have lived no more than 3 hours from Canada the vast majority of my life. I've been all over Northern Ontario as well as having travelled around the Golden Triangle (or Rusty Horseshoe as my Northern Ontarian friends call it) numerous times.

Anyway, you completely missed the point of what I was saying. I never once said that Canadians were "essentially culturally the same". What I said is that Canadians put a great deal of effort into being different from the USA, in not allowing themselves to be swallowed up by the massive amounts of pop culture streaming out of its souther neighbor. This struggle and the desire to be seen as different from the US are at least as large a part of Canadian identity as Tim Hortons or hockey.
Tmutarakhan
21-10-2008, 19:53
Old joke about how Canada got its name:
The Cabinet decided that the country needed a better name than just "Not the United States", so the Prime Minister dumped out a Scrabble set and asked the others to pick out some letters.
The first one said, "I've got a C, A?"
"I've got an N, A?"
"I've got a D, A?"
Gravlen
21-10-2008, 20:39
I like living in a rather laid-back country, where the drama is small, the laws are (mostly) logical and practical, and the government is kept accountable for the odd fuckup.

Sure, you'll find stupidity here as well, but it's a quiet peaceful place, so we'll deal with it. Just nod and move on :wink:
Gift-of-god
21-10-2008, 20:42
Canada is uniquely defined by their not being the US. Canada has always been afraid of being swallowed up by their huge neighbor, politically and culturally. Canadians have spent a great deal of energy trying to differentiate themselves from the US, so much so that the struggle to differentiate themselves has turned into a facet of Canadian identity.

No. We don't. I spend very little time thinking about how different we are from the US. About as much time as I spend thinking about how different we are from Lithuania, i.e. almost no time at all.

It may be that way in the little bit of Ontario you've travelled through, but most Canadians don't actually bother worrying about how USian we are.
New Wallonochia
21-10-2008, 21:02
No. We don't. I spend very little time thinking about how different we are from the US. About as much time as I spend thinking about how different we are from Lithuania, i.e. almost no time at all.

It may be that way in the little bit of Ontario you've travelled through, but most Canadians don't actually bother worrying about how USian we are.

It could be a uniquely Ontarian phenomenon. Having so many busy border crossings (including the Ambassador Bridge, the busiest border crossing in the world) could have something to do with this. People I knew in Northern Ontario were quite concerned with how "American" things were and it caused a bit of a fuss in our group of friends when they found out where I was from (they only figured it out when they saw the Michigan plates on my car). Of course, the fuss was largely because they thought they'd offended me, which their Canadian politeness wouldn't have allowed.
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 22:19
The US has mooses (meese?), too. Sarah Palin shoots them from the sky *pauses, thinks.* Ok, maybe in that regard Canada is better, they don't have Sarah Palin. *plots to give Palin to Canada.*

The plural of moose is moose
Dyakovo
21-10-2008, 22:23
In Quebec, where 90% of the population speaks french? And service people are required by law to be able to speak at least some french?

Yes. Some Québecois do get a bit frustrated with store clerks who are unable to help them, despite the fact that that's their job.

But this is all besides the point, as this thread discusses how Canada is better than the USA, not how Québec is better than the USA (which Québec is). They are two different nations. Try to get it right. Trust me, if you want to see a pissed off Québecois, you don't have to wait around in anglophone retail outlets; you can just call them Canadians.

I have, because they are whether they ( or the rest of Canada) like it or not.
Gift-of-god
22-10-2008, 14:45
I have, because they are whether they ( or the rest of Canada) like it or not.

They are a separate nation within Canada. Just like the Iroquois, or the Cree. Canada is a single state encompassing many nations and cultures. We are not a melting pot, you see. And now you know.
Rathanan
22-10-2008, 15:19
Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TfBbR6L0M
Cameroi
22-10-2008, 15:34
well i don't actually see any nation as being "inhierently" better or worse then any other nation. what i do see is trees, trains, computers and little furry creatures with big sharp teeth as being inhierently better then any self serving hierarchy, i.e. any hierarchy not neccessary, and specific, to an environmentally harmonious infrastructure (such as guideway, and non combustion, based transportation tecnologies, and non combustion based energy production). by that yardstick, this makes canada mostly a c-, compared to a d- for america, excipt for canada's having more places for little furry creatures to live, bringing it up to at least a c+.

(as far as i know there is no nation on earth i would grade above a b-, and damd few of those, if there are any, and i know, living in america i'm not living in one)
Fanrai
03-11-2008, 23:29
Quote-

So you've never been in an earthquake, not even a little one?

When I was a baby , I was in a tremor.
Neesika
03-11-2008, 23:31
When I was a baby , I was in a tremor.

I don't see how your comment was susbstantially connected to the subject matter enough to justify you resurrecting this thread.
Fanrai
03-11-2008, 23:33
[QUOTE=Cameroi;14125586]well i don't actually see any nation as being "inhierently" better or worse then any other nation. what i do see is trees, trains, computers and little furry creatures with big sharp teeth as being inhierently better then any self serving hierarchy, i.e. any hierarchy not neccessary, and specific, to an environmentally harmonious infrastructure (such as guideway, and non combustion, based transportation tecnologies, and non combustion based energy production). by that yardstick, this makes canada mostly a c-, compared to a d- for america, excipt for canada's having more places for little furry creatures to live, bringing it up to at least a c+.

(as far as i know there is no nation on earth i would grade above a b-, and damd few of those, if there are any, and i know, living in america i'm not living in one)[/QU Australia gets an A- and Japan gets an A for me. The US gets a C+ and Canada gets a B- to.
Arroza
04-11-2008, 00:12
Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.



Winter in Edmonton. Pwned.