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Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

AMERICAN bacon FTW.

Bah, it be just a cover for COMMUNISM, ya hear?

We Brits just muddle along. That's good enough for me.

I understand however that Canada has LESS freedom of speech.

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?I'm sure Canada would be a peachy place to live. After another century of global warming so it's not so fucking cold. 'Til then I want to live in Austin, where they specialize in the good kind of insanity.

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

Ha! Canadians! Nothing but a bunch of....

....wait, did you say orgies in tubs of maple syrup?

Can I be an honorary Canadian?

AMERICAN bacon FTW.

I've never met bacon I didn't like.

Minority government... HOW FUN

AMERICAN bacon FTW.


Otherwise known as simply.... bacon?

Next?

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

now that's what i call a sticky situation

I'm sorry who is your Queen?

I think Canada has a better government, but in my personal opinion, US history and culture is way more interesting.

I understand however that Canada has LESS freedom of speech.

Yay! A real issue!

It's actually something that I find absolutely fascinating, the more I learn about Human Rights Commission in Canada actually. Hate speech legislation is rarely used, and the standards are onorous, so that's not really much of a threat. However, the quasi-judicial Commissions have an amazing amount of power to quash 'free speech' in favour of protecting individuals and groups from hate/discrimination.

On one hand, we don't have the Phelps'. However, flying the nazi flag on your automobile could get you fined if someone complained.

Overall I'm uncomfortable with this, despite the fact that I am glad we have non-criminal avenues to address these sorts of issues.

Ha! Canadians! Nothing but a bunch of....

....wait, did you say orgies in tubs of maple syrup?

Can I be an honorary Canadian?

I had you in mind when I said it:)

I'll help you with your immigration papers if you'd like :D

America's better because it's a nation of mavericks.

Otherwise known as simply.... bacon?

Next?

Nope. American bacon is what civilised countries cut OFF of real bacon.

There's one thing my mothercountry (England) does right - food. God we love food.

I think Canada has a better government, but in my personal opinion, US history and culture is way more interesting.

Oooh...pfft...we have Louis Riel! And...John A. MacDonald drinking straight gin from his water cup whilst filibustering for days in the House of Commons...and um...

Um....

Okay I'll get back to you on this one.

I think Canada has a better government, but in my personal opinion, US history and culture is way more interesting.

Don't you mean European history and culture...

Canada has awesome bus drivers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IwtpptnAqk

Canada may be a bit cold but that better then having the sweat rolled off you down in the states. Besides what better excause is their warm up next to your girl on the coach near a fireplace..?

Otherwise known as simply.... bacon?

Next?

No, no, no...canadian bacon is the funny bit that comes to the side of the american bacon. It's inferior to the american bacon. It also requires the USAF to cover its ass.

I've never met bacon I didn't like.

It's not that it's inedible or anything. I've eaten it; were I to find myself in dire need of protein, I'd eat it again.

Nope. American bacon is what civilised countries cut OFF of real bacon.

There's one thing my mothercountry (England) does right - food. God we love food.

If you mean Indian cuisine, alright, except i's hardly YOUR food...

But if you just mean fish and chips, or bangers and mash...then I'll take the Koreans and Vietnamese over you dudes anytime, no matter how much I love your gin.

I understand however that Canada has LESS freedom of speech.
How?

You know what we've done better for the past fifteen years?

Keep Lord Stanley's Cup.

You know what we've done better for the past fifteen years?

Keep Lord Stanley's Cup.

Sad Canuk is sad.

Until she remembers that all your players are Canuks anyway.

I'll say the same thing I said in the last 'Canada is better than the US' topic.

Disney World.

The Winnipeg Jets decided they'd rather play hockey in the middle of the Arizona desert than stay in Canada.

But it's cold up there!

If you mean Indian cuisine, alright, except i's hardly YOUR food...

But if you just mean fish and chips, or bangers and mash...then I'll take the Koreans and Vietnamese over you dudes anytime, no matter how much I love your gin.

All food is our food. Yeah, fish and chips and bangers and mash and steak and kidney pies and black pudding and.... all that.

But also, England just - at some point - looked at the various different foods of the world... checked the list, and then kind of put a tick by EVERYTHING and said "I'll have that".

I'll say the same thing I said in the last 'Canada is better than the US' topic.

Disney World.

Disney is where you'd put the hose if you wanted to give the universe an enema.

I'll say the same thing I said in the last 'Canada is better than the US' topic.

Disney World.

Are you kidding me?

Disney is where you'd put the hose if you wanted to give the universe an enema.

Sigged.

All food is our food. Yeah, fish and chips and bangers and mash and steak and kidney pies and black pudding and.... all that.

But also, England just - at some point - looked at the various different foods of the world... checked the list, and then kind of put a tick by EVERYTHING and said "I'll have that".

True that, I've noticed that it's slightly easier to get a huge variety of different foods in a UK city than it is in other cities I've been to outside of the UK.

Yay! A real issue!

It's actually something that I find absolutely fascinating, the more I learn about Human Rights Commission in Canada actually. Hate speech legislation is rarely used, and the standards are onorous, so that's not really much of a threat. However, the quasi-judicial Commissions have an amazing amount of power to quash 'free speech' in favour of protecting individuals and groups from hate/discrimination.

On one hand, we don't have the Phelps'. However, flying the nazi flag on your automobile could get you fined if someone complained.

Overall I'm uncomfortable with this, despite the fact that I am glad we have non-criminal avenues to address these sorts of issues.

It's not hate speech I'm discussing. I understand the importation of certain BOOKS is illegal.

Let's see, let me count hte ways the USA is better then Canada...

1. *Stereotypical, required American comment about Canadian accents*

2. You still have a Queen.:D

3. It's F-ing COLD up there!

4. We have more in the way of Freedom of speech.

5. And less gun control.

6. Our history is, let's face it, way more interesting then Canadian history.:p

7. We own Al Gore, who invented the internet.:D

Ways Canada is better then the US:

1. Food. ALL the food up there is better.

2. Rush and Priestess are both Canadian.

3. #2 counts twice because of the sheer awesomeness of those bands.

4. #2 counts three times actually, just cuase I love Rush so much.

5. Syrup. you can't get good syrup ANYWHERE here in the States, at least not in the twenty or so states I've visited.

6. Neesika is from Canada.:D

7. Their elections do not DRAG ON FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! GAH!

The killing blow to Canada:

Despite what everyone says, no one really cares about Canada.

Please note that most of this is in jest.

But not the last part.:D

The USA has awesome music. Grunge, Jazz, Rap and Hardcore were all birthed from the fertile creative womb of the US and its atmosphere of nihilism, alienation and despair.

How?

My information may be a little out of date, perhaps the problem has been entirely rectified, but here's an example from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Canada)

One of the most famous ongoing censorship controversies in Canada has been the dispute between Canada Customs and LGBT retail bookstores such as Little Sister's in Vancouver and Glad Day in Toronto. Through the 1980s and into the 1990s, Canada Customs frequently stopped material being shipped to the two stores on the grounds of "obscenity"—although in many cases the very same material was not considered obscene when being shipped to a mainstream bookseller such as Coles or Chapters.[citation needed] Both stores frequently had to resort to the legal system to challenge the confiscation of their property.

In 2000, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Canada Customs did not have the authority to make its own judgments about the permissibility of material being shipped to the stores but was permitted to confiscate only material that had specifically been ruled by the courts to constitute an offence under the Criminal Code of Canada.

Canadians can be disciplined by their employers for writing letters to newspapers. Christine St-Pierre, a Radio-Canada television reporter, was suspended in September 2006 for writing a letter in support of Canadian troops in Afghanistan. Similarly, the courts have upheld professional sanctions against teachers and school counsellors for writing letters to newspapers that are found to be discriminatory, with the limitations on their freedom of expression and religion justified by the goal of maintaining "a school system that is free from bias, prejudice and intolerance."[6] (See related articles, Chris Kempling and Status of religious freedom in Canada).

And from here (http://www.groupsrv.com/movie/post-69346.html) re: Canadian Customs:


"seizing anything they deem deviant or pornographic, primarily (but not
exclusively) gay-oriented books, magazines, and even comic books with sexual
content.In one case some years back they even seized a shipment of Oscar
Wilde books, apparently because it was headed for a well-known gay
bookstore. Although they have lost a couple of prominent court cases brought
by gay bookstores who have had shipments seized, the uniformed homophobes
and sexophobes at Customs soldier on, bravely protecting the rest of us from
the corrupting influence of naked dongs. The fact that almost every
independent video store in the country has an extensive straight-porn
section seems to have somehow escaped them."

Let's see, let me count hte ways the USA is better then Canada...

1. *Stereotypical, required American comment about Canadian accents*

Canucks, however, do not sound like they want to 'make you squeal like a pig'.

2. You still have a Queen.:D

Considering the impact each of our head of states has had on our country and world, I would think you'd want her too.

3. It's F-ing COLD up there!

Yes. It keeps the undeserving away.

4. We have more in the way of Freedom of speech.

And we have more freedom in terms of sex and drugs.

5. And less gun control.

On a serious note, I wonder if this is true.

6. Our history is, let's face it, way more interesting then Canadian history.:p

"Be grateful you do not live in interesting times."

7. We own Al Gore, who invented the internet.:D

And that's why Canada is better.

Ways Canada is better then the US:

1. Food. ALL the food up there is better.

2. Rush and Priestess are both Canadian.

3. #2 counts twice because of the sheer awesomeness of those bands.

4. #2 counts three times actually, just cuase I love Rush so much.

5. Syrup. you can't get good syrup ANYWHERE here in the States, at least not in the twenty or so states I've visited.

6. Neesika is from Canada.:D

7. Their elections do not DRAG ON FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! GAH!

I'll grant you these. Because I'm generous. Which is due to my Canadianness.

The killing blow to Canada:

Despite what everyone says, no one really cares about Canada.

I think some refugees do. Gay ones. Gay, socialist ones. All four of them.

I'll help you with your immigration papers if you'd like :D
Me too?

7. Their elections do not DRAG ON FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR! GAH!

you can say that again, i'am sick of seeing on the news here

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

ME!! Spain did good in having me for a daughter. :D

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like.

That's because the fate of large chunks of the world don't rest on the results of your elections. Our elections can conceivably change whether - oh, for example, about a million Iraqis live or die. Our last two elections meant they did.

So excuse us if we take our time about it instead of rushing to get it over with as quickly as possible.

If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005.

That's nice. We have legal gay marriage in California. Do note that California has a bigger population than Canada, so our legalization is doing more people more good.

You can get abortions here.

You can get abortions anywhere.

Medical marijuana is A-OK

As it is in California. Again note the population difference.

Did I mention California alone has a better and bigger economy too?

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US.

That is disgusting and offensive. What, having a lower crime rate makes that place inherently superior?

So for example, a low-income neighborhood with a higher crime rate than a posh suburb. That low-income neighborhood is inherently inferior?

Fuck that.

Canucks, however, do not sound like they want to 'make you squeal like a pig'.

:confused:

Considering the impact each of our head of states has had on our country and world, I would think you'd want her too.

Considering that you have to have someone in an office, no matter how ceremonial, until they die, I don't think I'd want her.

Yes. It keeps the undeserving away.

*Does not deserve to be frozen to death every winter*

And we have more freedom in terms of sex and drugs.

I'll give you that. Although not willingly.

On a serious note, I wonder if this is true.

I'm pretty sure we have less gun control then you do. Feel free to try to prove me wrong.

"Be grateful you do not live in interesting times."

Never! I'd rather be dieing and interested, then bored and alive.:D

And that's why Canada is better.

Why do you hate teh interwebz? And freedom?

I'll grant you these. Because I'm generous. Which is due to my Canadianness.

Bah. Darn Canadian generosity. It'll lead to Communism one day, mark my words! *rants about how the commies are going to take over*

I think some refugees do. Gay ones. Gay, socialist ones. All four of them
Five, last time I counted.:D

Otherwise known as simply.... bacon?

Next?
As opposed to CANADIAN bacon, which is.... ham.

Ha! Canadians! Nothing but a bunch of....

....wait, did you say orgies in tubs of maple syrup?

Can I be an honorary Canadian?

I, Dawoad of Canada, hereby declare you to be an honorary citizen of Canada until such a time as you gain full citizenship having realized how great we are . . .now, The orgy!

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

Every country has it's flaws, but i'm still proud to be an honourable brit.

Of course Canada is better. This is news?

That's because the fate of large chunks of the world don't rest on the results of your elections. Our elections can conceivably change whether - oh, for example, about a million Iraqis live or die. Our last two elections meant they did.

So excuse us if we take our time about it instead of rushing to get it over with as quickly as possible

so . . .taking time didn't help then?


That's nice. We have legal gay marriage in California. Do note that California has a bigger population than Canada, so our legalization is doing more people more good.

IT is. . .oh man! That being said, we've had it longer :D


You can get abortions anywhere.

Illegally . .. probably . . .legally, no


As it is in California. Again note the population difference.

Did I mention California alone has a better and bigger economy too?

Dunno . . .I think we may have a better PPP than California.


That is disgusting and offensive. What, having a lower crime rate makes that place inherently superior?

So for example, a low-income neighborhood with a higher crime rate than a posh suburb. That low-income neighborhood is inherently inferior?

Fuck that.

I'd still rather live in the place with the lower crime rate.

It's not hate speech I'm discussing. I understand the importation of certain BOOKS is illegal.

Little Sisters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Sisters_Bookstore).

What's so odd about that situation is that the same books can be purchased at other bookstores in the country.

Note however, that the SCC (http://csc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/2000/2000scc69/2000scc69.html) ruled it was a violated of section 2 of the charter, the right to free expression, but that it was justified under s.1.

Please note that the material in question is NOT illegal. The court said that the Customs legislation itself was not problematic as it did not set out such discriminatory practices (unreasonable delays at the border for this bookstore alone), and that the problem instead was at the administrative level (the actual customs officials). The reverse onus provision (having to prove the material was NOT obscene) was struck down, but the delays caused by the so called desire to screen out obscene material was not dealt with by the court...they said the delays were unfortunate but not unconstitutional.

The dissent however, felt that it was a constitutional violation of the equality provision (s.15 of the Charter).

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?We have Delta Force, Army Special Forces, Marine Force Recon, and the Army Rangers (Airborne, as well).
Canadians have, what, JTF2?
In essence, our entire military is "done right". Not to say that they're perfect. *insert deity here* knows that they aren't.

We have Delta Force, Army Special Forces, Marine Force Recon, and the Army Rangers (Airborne, as well).
Canadians have, what, JTF2?
In essence, our entire military is "done right". Not to say that they're perfect. *insert deity here* knows that they aren't.

what about the SEALs?????
Though your "done right" military costs you a bunchaton per year as well as missing out on some pretty key aspects (ground based artillery for example . . .)


and we have CSOR, JTF-2 and CJIRU (and potentially one more)

You know what we've done better for the past fifteen years?

Keep Lord Stanley's Cup.
:)
Sad Canuk is sad.

Until she remembers that all your players are Canuks anyway.
:(



I'll argue on behalf of my region, rather than my nation. New England is well on its way to permitting gay marriage in all 6 states (CT and MA have it currently, RI recognizes them but does not perform them. The three northern states give some rights, despite their backwards politics of defining marriage legally...fuckers)
We have some of the best schools in the country and world (from elementary education up through college, few compete with Harvard, Yale, MIT, Wellsley...stong performances by BU, BC, Northeastern, PC, etc)
We have some impressive sports teams (if anyone starts a yankees/sox battle, I will have to beat you.)
We are liberal
We have disco fries, New England clam chowder, apple cider donuts, great cheddar cheese, great skiing, Cape Cod, Boston, lobster...


what more do you need?

Canada is the middle child of N. America.

We have guns and football. And John Wayne. And President Reagan. And President Lincoln. And now that we have Sam Adams, y'all don't even have better beer.

All food is our food. Yeah, fish and chips and bangers and mash and steak and kidney pies and black pudding and.... all that.


Hey... do not insult steak and kidney pie, especially with appropriate amounts of ale in it. That food is God.

Seriously, I do think traditional english food gets a poor reputation. I love traditional roast dinners, lancashire hotpot, steak and kidney pies... there's a lot more to it than just fish and chips.

Canada seems to be a peaceful place. One does not hear the fucked up things that happen in the US happening in Canada.

what about the SEALs?????
and we have CSOR, JTF-2 and CJIRU (and potentially one more)CSOR is support for JTF2. They aren't all "regular" special ops. And I completely forgot the SEALs. :p
Though your "done right" military costs you a bunchaton per year as well as missing out on some pretty key aspects (ground based artillery for example . . .)
It's something to do with deliberately stimulating the economy, I think. I'll get back to you on that one.
And what was that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M198_howitzer) about not having (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M109_howitzer) artillery? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M119_howitzer) Three separate links in that one. :)

Our elections gather so much attention because, who ever wins will impact the entire world, not just the US

The United States has Tyrannosaurus rex. Canada only has those losers Gorgosaurus libratus and Albertosaurus sarcophagus. Clearly the U.S. is better in the giant flesh-eating hellbeast department, and we all know that's the only one that matters.

Our elections gather so much attention because, who ever wins will impact the entire world, not just the US

Good or bad...

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?
Australia: Policy Design - particularly tertiary education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HECS), monetary policy (http://www.rba.gov.au/MonetaryPolicy/about_monetary_policy.html) and retirement and pensions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation_in_Australia).

Germany: Ahem...cars?

Alls I know is that I was in Victoria this summer and the price of a case of beer was simply criminal. :mad:

So there. :p

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

BAHahahA WHAT A LOAD. For starters your healthcare system forces people to wait for treatment much longer than you have to wait in the US. Secondly abortions are legal here as well as is medical marijuana if prescibed. The drug war in this country is long over a dozen states have decrimalized small possesions of pot, and there are no more lifers for pot smokers not even close anywhere. Cannadian poutine ahahahahahahahaha really give me a break.

That's nice. We have legal gay marriage in California. Do note that California has a bigger population than Canada, so our legalization is doing more people more good.
For a few months, anyway. California also has rednecks who want to change that back, which Canada does not have so many of.
So for example, a low-income neighborhood with a higher crime rate than a posh suburb.
Posh suburbs in America often have a higher crime rate than low-income neighborhoods in Canada.

your healthcare system forces people to wait for treatment much longer than you have to wait in the US
In the US, I am going to have to wait until I am on the edge of death before I can get any treatment.

I think Canada has a better government, but in my personal opinion, US history and culture is way more interesting.

Agreed

Germany: Ahem...cars?

Germany is just simply awesome. By far the friendliest people I've ever met.

I've never met bacon I didn't like.

What about Kevin?

But seriously, in terms of Canada vs. USA, Canada wins hands down.

In terms of Australia vs. Canada, well... that's a toughie.

You have Frenchies, but we have bogans. You have awesome weather (I love the cold). We have kick-ass beaches (I like swimming too. Odd no?). We are a strong regional power, but that isn't saying much considering our region consists of Nauru, New Zealand, The Solomon Islands, East Timor, The Phillipines, Tasmania, etc. Whereas you guys are constantly in your big ugly neighbour's shadow.

Actually, I think I'll give it to the Canucks because we have an incredibly strong streak of conservatism in this country's political arena, as evidenced by our gay marriage laws, drug laws, and insistence upon that inherently American ideal of suburbia. I do wish our pollies would stop pandering to the mortgage belt...

In the US, I am going to have to wait until I am on the edge of death before I can get any treatment.

Not if your insured actually you get treatment much faster than most countries if you are insured the problem is getting affordable insurance.

We have disco fries, New England clam chowder, apple cider donuts, great cheddar cheese, great skiing, Cape Cod, Boston, lobster...


what more do you need?

You forgot that you're wicked retahded.

Not if your insured actually you get treatment much faster than most countries if you are insured the problem is getting affordable insurance.I have no possible prospect of getting insured, barring some radical change in the system. I would have to get a job with group insurance, which is not happening; if I purchase individually, my "pre-existing" condition is automatically not covered, so I will still have to wait until it is life-threatening, go to an ER and be dunned for the bills for the rest of my short life.

Not if your insured actually you get treatment much faster than most countries if you are insured the problem is getting affordable insurance.
problem? only if you don't have 1 billion dollars cash . . .oh wait. . . ya that is a problem . . .right!

Also I'd like to see some hard number on that cause I've yet to actually see any study that outlines wait times at all.

admittedly due to lack of trying

BAHahahA WHAT A LOAD. For starters your healthcare system forces people to wait for treatment much longer than you have to wait in the US. Secondly abortions are legal here as well as is medical marijuana if prescibed. The drug war in this country is long over a dozen states have decrimalized small possesions of pot, and there are no more lifers for pot smokers not even close anywhere. Cannadian poutine ahahahahahahahaha really give me a break.

Get me some of that laughing gas.

I understand you need it. Canada rules, USA drools.

It may be the case that for specific surgeries, you wait longer in Canada (I'm not going to quibble, though it'd be nice if you provided sources)...but you have people in the US who will never be able to afford those surgeries.

We don't have a single person in that situation.

As for the rest of it...meh. You know we do it better. Your 'dozen' states compared to our entire country? Please.

You forgot that you're wicked retahded.

Wickit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems_compared

Neither healthcare system gets high marks worldwide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems_compared

Neither healthcare system gets high marks worldwide.

true and the states spends more huh? interesting . . .also that site was fairly biased. . . look at the things whoever wrote it linked as sources and they are all about how socialized medicine is teh ebil! I dunno . . . I'd like to see the data myself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems_compared

Neither healthcare system gets high marks worldwide.All I know is, if I'd been able to move to Canada in 2001 like I wanted to, I would have had my surgery done a year ago, when I needed it.

Alls I know is that I was in Victoria this summer and the price of a case of beer was simply criminal. :mad:

So there. :p

I can't believe you'd misuse a legal term like that! I'm shocked and appalled!

All I know is, if I'd been able to move to Canada in 2001 like I wanted to, I would have had my surgery done a year ago, when I needed it.

I did say getting insurance was a problem my point is if you have it, generally it is much quicker and easier than canada.

I do think there is a problem with the healthcare system in America, but holding up Canada's as a model of good healthcare is a joke.

holding up Canada's as a model of good healthcare is a joke.What's funny depends on which end of the sharp stick you're on, I guess.

Hey... do not insult steak and kidney pie, especially with appropriate amounts of ale in it. That food is God.

Seriously, I do think traditional english food gets a poor reputation. I love traditional roast dinners, lancashire hotpot, steak and kidney pies... there's a lot more to it than just fish and chips.

Not insulting!

I genuinely love our traditional foods. Yorkshire puddings. Sausage rolls. Cornish Pasties. A good solid fried breakfast. Jesus, it get's me wet just thinking about it.

What's funny depends on which end of the sharp stick you're on, I guess.

Well in a year I am in trouble because without health insurance my medication costs upwards of 150 dollars a bottle and I go through a bottle in about a week I have to take twelve a day. And in a year I graduate and I am going to have to find new health insurance quick or I am in trouble.

I did say getting insurance was a problem my point is if you have it, generally it is much quicker and easier than canada.

I do think there is a problem with the healthcare system in America, but holding up Canada's as a model of good healthcare is a joke.

I'm using your wiki source:

A peer-reviewed comparison study of health care access in the two countries published in 2006 concluded that U.S. residents are one third less likely to have a regular medical doctor, one fourth more likely to have unmet health care needs, and are more than twice as likely to forgo needed medicines.[16] The study noted that access problems "were particularly dire for the US uninsured." Those who lack insurance in the U.S. were much less satisfied, less likely to have seen a doctor, and more likely to have been unable to receive desired care than both Canadians and insured Americans.[

I'm sorry, but no. You do not get to ignore the massive problem of unisured USians. The Canadian healthcare system has problems with wait times, but nonetheless, the issue of coverage is an enormous one you can't simply brush aside, and frankly, more dire than waiting times in a universal access system.

We need to address the issue of wait times, absolutely. Yet even if if things stayed the same...we pay less than you do for healthcare, we have longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality rates, and while many of you have access to good care, we ALL have access to good care.

I hate to say it (no I don't), but we win

Well in a year I am in trouble because without health insurance my medication costs upwards of 150 dollars a bottle and I go through a bottle in about a week I have to take twelve a day. And in a year I graduate and I am going to have to find new health insurance quick or I am in trouble.If you lived in Canada, you wouldn't be. See?

Can one of the resident Canadians explain to me what a canuck is? :tongue:

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

Haha you forgot to mention NAFTA and the North American Union, which basically merges Canada, the US, and Mexico :p So there goes your national sovereignty :hail:

Can one of the resident Canadians explain to me what a canuck is? :tongue:

A Canadian who buys health insurance?

Can one of the resident Canadians explain to me what a canuck is? :tongue:

Canuk, canuck, slang for a Canadian.

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck).

If we are so good, then we really dont need how-we-are-better-than-US threads, do we? It's quite pathetic, IMO.

I'm sorry, but no. You do not get to ignore the massive problem of unisured USians. The Canadian healthcare system has problems with wait times, but nonetheless, the issue of coverage is an enormous one you can't simply brush aside, and frankly, more dire than waiting times in a universal access system.

We need to address the issue of wait times, absolutely. Yet even if if things stayed the same...we pay less than you do for healthcare, we have longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality rates, and while many of you have access to good care, we ALL have access to good care.

I hate to say it (no I don't), but we win


Your higher life expectancy has very little to do with the healthcare system and a lot more to do with the violent crime rate in America. And I would debate that good care idea you get care thats about it, and even thats debatable. Not to Mention none of your doctors want to work in your country because of the current system.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/06/in-canada-doctors-use-lottery-to-drop-patients/

http://mdsalaries.blogspot.com/2007/04/canadian-doctors-go-to-usa-for-better.html

Haha you forgot to mention NAFTA and the North American Union, which basically merges Canada, the US, and Mexico :p So there goes your national sovereignty :hail:

Crazy! So we were forced to go fight in Iraq? Oh wait no. Um...we have been forced to dismantle our universal health care system to match the private one in the US? Oh wait, no. Hmmm. We no longer have a Parlimentary system? Gay marriage isn't okay cuz it's not okay in most US states? No and no?

Yes. Gee. There goes our sovereignty indeed.

Your higher life expectancy has very little to do with the healthcare system and a lot more to do with the violent crime rate in America. I've already mentioned crime rates as a reason we're better.

And I would debate that good care idea you get care thats about it, and even thats debatable.

http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/06/in-canada-doctors-use-lottery-to-drop-patients/This.......blog....doesn't in any way show that Canadian care is worse than what you'd get in the US, so I'm really not sure what point you're attempting to make.

Also, don't forget that drug costs in Canada are significantly lower than they are in the US.

If we are so good, then we really dont need how-we-are-better-than-US threads, do we? It's quite pathetic, IMO.

What a Canadian take on things...a general aversion to the ridiculous attention whoring of USians.

I reject it only because gloating feels soooo daaaaammmn gooooooddd.....like scratching a mosquito bite. You know you shouldn't but....uuuuuuuugh yeah.

Crazy! So we were forced to go fight in Iraq? Oh wait no. Um...we have been forced to dismantle our universal health care system to match the private one in the US? Oh wait, no. Hmmm. We no longer have a Parlimentary system? Gay marriage isn't okay cuz it's not okay in most US states? No and no?

Yes. Gee. There goes our sovereignty indeed.

It's kind of like the EU in North America. I'm just trying to say that the leaders in Canada are as corrupt as America's, and that your country isn't really so great after all. You're leaders globalized with the US and Mexico without asking the parliament or the people.

I've already mentioned crime rates as a reason we're better.
This.......blog....doesn't in any way show that Canadian care is worse than what you'd get in the US, so I'm really not sure what point you're attempting to make.

Also, don't forget that drug costs in Canada are significantly lower than they are in the US.

http://mdsalaries.blogspot.com/2007/...or-better.html

Again Doctors don't want to work in your country.

It's kind of like the EU in North America. I'm just trying to say that the leaders in Canada are as corrupt as America's, and that your country isn't really that great after all. You're leaders globalized with the US and Mexico without asking the parliament or the people.

You mean our politicians are corporate whores?

Ok, on that we agree.

http://mdsalaries.blogspot.com/2007/...or-better.html

Again Doctors don't want to work in your country.

We don't pay them enough.

We have a shortage.

And we're STILL better.

Fuck that must sting.


(link no worky)

If we are so good, then we really dont need how-we-are-better-than-US threads, do we? It's quite pathetic, IMO.

I thought that was the pass time-we go around pretending like you all are a bunch of quasi-socialist Donnie Don'ts (don't do what Donnie Don't does...we can't enact policy X, that's what Canada does...) wussy maple munchers who end their sentences in 'eh' and have horsie cops and you pretend we're a bunch of knuckle dragging gun totting NASCAR cowboys looking for a fight and trying to get people to look at our cocks, and any thought of discourse or exchange just circles the bowl...

It's kind of like the EU in North America. I'm just trying to say that the leaders in Canada are as corrupt as America's, and that your country isn't really so great after all. You're leaders globalized with the US and Mexico without asking the parliament or the people.
actually if i remember right there was a referendum lol. Also how exactly is that corruption? I mean I don't like it but still

What a Canadian take on things...a general aversion to the ridiculous attention whoring of USians.

I reject it only because gloating feels soooo daaaaammmn gooooooddd.....like scratching a mosquito bite. You know you shouldn't but....uuuuuuuugh yeah.

The US is inherently better than Canada because I don't see any attention-whoring Americans starting a thread trashing Canada. Maybe if you had a better opinion of yourself, you wouldn't need to tear others down. You certainly don't demonstrate superiority by behaving in such a fashion. Or, perhaps I should be directing this at one particular Canadian who seems to have a need to tear down Americans on a regular basis.

The US is inherently better than Canada because I don't see any attention-whoring Americans starting a thread trashing Canada. Maybe if you had a better opinion of yourself, you wouldn't need to tear others down. You certainly don't demonstrate superiority by behaving in such a fashion. Or, perhaps I should be directing this at one particular Canadian who seems to have a need to tear down Americans on a regular basis.

You're hilarious!

A great deal of USians here attention whore constantly, and constantly talk about how their system is the best. That's the default USian position for some of your less educated brethren.

I take a contrary position, because it's fun.

But I dare you to go find me 'tear[ing] down Americans on a regular basis'.

Maybe if you didn't have such low self-esteem in relation to your country, you wouldn't let light-hearted threads upset you so much, hmmm?

You're hilarious!

A great deal of USians here attention whore constantly, and constantly talk about how their system is the best. That's the default USian position for some of your less educated brethren.

I take a contrary position, because it's fun.

But I dare you to go find me 'tear[ing] down Americans on a regular basis'.

Maybe if you didn't have such low self-esteem in relation to your country, you wouldn't let light-hearted threads upset you so much, hmmm?This reminds me of a quote from James Baldwin. "I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually."
I haven't seen you "tearing down" Americans. That would be rather pitiful. We do a better job than you ever would. :p
No, the last line was totally not serious. :D

[QUOTE=Neesika;14108284]You're hilarious!

A great deal of USians here attention whore constantly, and constantly talk about how their system is the best. That's the default USian position for some of your less educated brethren.

I take a contrary position, because it's fun.

-snip-E]

*grumbles* Damn you for making it damn near impossible to dislike you. *mutters*

Proud to be a mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, attention-whoring American.If only the first word in your name started with an L! Then I could call you LSD! :)

If only the first word in your name started with an L! Then I could call you LSD! :)

Lucid? I strike you as lucid? Lucidly-social Darwinism... *likes the sound of it* Thank you.

Whatever helps you sleep at nigh Neesika.

Lucid? I strike you as lucid? Lucidly-social Darwinism... *likes the sound of it* Thank you.You are very welcome.
Okay, back on topic.
Wait, what was the topic about again? Oh, Canada! You mean the "mooses r attacking" Canada? :p
Whatever helps you sleep at nigh Neesika.Served. :) (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/drloomis3/Cat-YouJustGotServed.jpg)

You are very welcome.
Okay, back on topic.
Wait, what was the topic about again? Oh, Canada! You mean the "mooses r attacking" Canada? :p

The US has mooses (meese?), too. Sarah Palin shoots them from the sky *pauses, thinks.* Ok, maybe in that regard Canada is better, they don't have Sarah Palin. *plots to give Palin to Canada.*

The US has mooses (meese?), too. Sarah Palin shoots them from the sky *pauses, thinks.* Ok, maybe in that regard Canada is better, they don't have Sarah Palin. *plots to give Palin to Canada.*But the U.S. needs that fail! Without it, we might actually win (http://th203.photobucket.com/albums/aa238/Alandrea_kitty/th_1177970068661.jpg)!

I've never met bacon I didn't like.

Canadian bacon, though, is Maple Ham that was put in the microwave for a few minutes.

*grumbles* Damn you for making it damn near impossible to dislike you. *mutters*
It's totally possible.

Just take it as a lesson in 'don't assume someone is a stereotyping douchebag unless you've seen ample evidence that this is so'.

An amazing amount of sarcasm/irony/tomfoolery can be lost in translation.

I think I just broke my personal record of using the word 'douchebag' in a single day. Crazy!

It's totally possible.

Just take it as a lesson in 'don't assume someone is a stereotyping douchebag unless you've seen ample evidence that this is so'.

An amazing amount of sarcasm/irony/tomfoolery can be lost in translation.

I think I just broke my personal record of using the word 'douchebag' in a single day. Crazy!

This is why we love you.

Whatever helps you sleep at nigh Neesika.

Three ounces of gin. Half an ounce of cranberry juice. Fill the glass with ice. Pour in some tonic just to stave off malaria. Drain. Repeat as needed.

Three ounces of gin. Half an ounce of cranberry juice. Fill the glass with ice. Pour in some tonic just to stave off malaria. Drain. Repeat as needed.

Ew gin.

Canadian bacon, though, is Maple Ham that was put in the microwave for a few minutes.

I've always been confused by the whole Canadian bacon terminology. Cuz you see...we actually eat the same sort of bacon as you. Like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon). My favourite kind if maple syrup cured bacon that you have to slice yourself. *mops up drool*

Hold on. I'm actually going to start cooking some. Sweet fucking lord how I love bacon. brb

Okay. Got it going, with lots of cracked pepper.

Anyway. Canadian bacon, here is back bacon (http://www.witheridgefarmshop.co.uk/shop/images/Sausage%202.jpg). Thick fucking slices, also known as 'salt and pepper pork' because of the way it's prepared. And it's heaven. Pure, unadulterated, sweet sweet juicy pork heaven. Of course, you can get deli meat back bacon which is disgusting, unless you don't know any better. It's like how that shit you get at Safeway that they call pastrami doesn't taste anything like real pastrami.

Ew gin.

I have an aversion to sweetness, and I sort of ruined myself for any other liquor. I've grown to adore gin. I know, I'm shocked as well.

No, no, no...canadian bacon is the funny bit that comes to the side of the american bacon. It's inferior to the american bacon. It also requires the USAF to cover its ass.



It's not that it's inedible or anything. I've eaten it; were I to find myself in dire need of protein, I'd eat it again.

Canadian Bacon? Wasn't that a crappy Michael Moore film?

You are very welcome.
Okay, back on topic.
Wait, what was the topic about again? Oh, Canada! You mean the "mooses r attacking" Canada? :p
Served. :) (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/drloomis3/Cat-YouJustGotServed.jpg)

pfff mooses hell its the beavers you've gotta watch out for . . .nasty little sons-of-guns, why this one time . . .*rambles for a while*.. . . .and then it chewed his leg off . . .. *rambles some more*

The US has mooses (meese?), too. Sarah Palin shoots them from the sky *pauses, thinks.* Ok, maybe in that regard Canada is better, they don't have Sarah Palin. *plots to give Palin to Canada.*

no! not that! anything but that! nuke us from the face of the earth (prbably a bad idea due to fallout but still) Take our trade, Enslave us just please please don't send over Sarah Palin
*whimpers*

Canadian Bacon? Wasn't that a crappy Michael Moore film?

You sonofa---SOMONE HOLD ME BACK!

Have more respect for the dearly departed John Candy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Candy) you puppyraper!

no! not that! anything but that! nuke us from the face of the earth (prbably a bad idea due to fallout but still) Take our trade, Enslave us just please please don't send over Sarah Palin
*whimpers*

You have to give them credit for taking Dion. Celine, not Stephan. Wait. Wonder if we could sneak him by them? Give him a show in Vegas? *strokes non-existent beard thoughtfully*

Canadian bacon, though, is Maple Ham that was put in the microwave for a few minutes.

Gross! You don't microwave back bacon, you fry it!

What, do you think our trees have electrical plugs in them? Or has someone invented the snow-powered microwave yet! :p

Gross! You don't microwave back bacon, you fry it!

What, do you think our trees have electrical plugs in them? Or has someone invented the snow-powered microwave yet! :p

Actually I think he was making a really insensitive joke about Maple Leaf (http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=41de4fd1-24f0-4632-b134-8ec3b8bc600a). I think it needs to be addressed though, because some people might think that microwaving Maple Leaf meat will kill off Listeria monocytogenes.

It doesn't. Please don't play with your health, folks.

Yeah Yeah Canada is good now increase you oil exports you damn canucks.

Hey Neesika,

Tangent time:

I only caught bits and pieces of a radio story.

I think it was in the sixties, where Canadian aboriginal children were getting abused and beaten to death while in religious schools?

Have you heard of this and if so what and where can I find info?

I think it was in the sixties, where Canadian aboriginal children were getting abused and beaten to death while in religious schools?


Of course it's true. Don't you have Catholic nuns in the States? :confused: :tongue:

Have you heard of this and if so what and where can I find info?

Internet. Google: scandal aboriginal residential school. (http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012194)

Of course it's true. Don't you have Catholic nuns in the States? :confused: :tongue:


*SHUDDERS*

Yes I know God's bouncers really well! I went to a Catholic School.

*sits in a corner and starts rocking*


Internet. Google: scandal aboriginal residential school. (http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012194)

Thank you. Quite disgusting I might add. And people wonder why I became an agnostic.....

Hey Neesika,

Tangent time:

I only caught bits and pieces of a radio story.

I think it was in the sixties, where Canadian aboriginal children were getting abused and beaten to death while in religious schools?

Have you heard of this and if so what and where can I find info?

...

Had you said this with even a hint of irony, you would have absolutely pwnd me. I would have been forced to admit that you'd utterly shredded my (even joking) premise. I'd have :hail:.

I understand that you probably didn't mean it that way. I'm a little disappointed, but just recognising how sweet that could have been, I'm somewhat uplifted.

There are two 'scandals' that might interest you. One is the whole Residential Schools debacle (http://archives.cbc.ca/society/education/topics/692/), linked to already, though please note, it wasn't just the Catholics...the Anglicans in particular also ran a great many Residential Schools...but there is also the 60s scoop (http://www.wrcfs.org/repat/stolennation.htm).

What might also interest you is the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples (RCAP (http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/ch/rcap/sg/sgmm_e.html)) put out in '96 which discusses both the above, as well as systemic racism against aboriginal peoples from both a historical and contemporary perspective. Heavy reading, I understand if you don't go through it all. Nonetheless, anything I could tell you is very succinctly explained in that document.

Thank you. Quite disgusting I might add. And people wonder why I became an agnostic.....

Don't forget this was a government policy, 'contracted out' in a sense.

Secularism is no comfort.

Australia does rugby league right.

I hate our 'journalism' though. Nothing on decent countries.

We make great indie flicks (Beneath Clouds and Look Both Ways anyone?).

We have great food. And the best beaches in the entirety of the world.

It's totally possible.

Just take it as a lesson in 'don't assume someone is a stereotyping douchebag unless you've seen ample evidence that this is so'.

An amazing amount of sarcasm/irony/tomfoolery can be lost in translation.

I think I just broke my personal record of using the word 'douchebag' in a single day. Crazy!

Chalk it up to the fact that I'm over 60 and an aspiring curmudgeon, but I sense just the teeniest bit of condescension. Please, don't correct me if I'm wrong, unless you can do it without hitting my curmudgeon button (which is large and sensitive). I get a bit disgruntled when I think I'm being patronized, especially when I'm trying to be approachable.

As you can probably tell from my sig, I've read (and quite possibley misinterpreted) some of your comments about Americans.

First off, I think it's silly to debate over which country is best. If you live in a particular country and you enjoy it, then be happy! If you don't like it, move! That being said, I'll argue for America just to satisfy your hunger :D

Second, I didn't feel like reading through all nine pages of bacon talk so if I say something that has already been said, lo siento!

Alright alright, down to business. So you're arguing that Canada is better because of gay marriage, abortion, health care, and mary j? Well, it just so happens that America is a democratic nation, similar (but not the same) as Canada. If gay marriage truly was what the majority wanted, we would have it. The same goes for pot. (although I agree with you about not putting people in prison for posession.)

Also, I really don't think you should brag about abortion. Nobody is pro-abortion, at least I hope. Anyway, abortion is legal in America too so I don't know what you're point is. Wait, can you kill your kids in Canada at any point of their life? Cool!

Canadian health care is a joke and is failing, just google it. There are articles upon articles written about it and 99.9% of them are against it. I've read testimonial after testimonial of poor Canadians who were forced to come to the terrible country of America just to get something as simple as knee surgery or even something as life saving as an EKG. Paying 46% of every dollar to pay for "national" health care that isn't always available to you is just insane.

Australia does rugby league right.

I hate our 'journalism' though. Nothing on decent countries.

We make great indie flicks (Beneath Clouds and Look Both Ways anyone?).

We have great food. And the best beaches in the entirety of the world.

and some half decent wines.

First off, I think it's silly to debate over which country is best. If you live in a particular country and you enjoy it, then be happy! If you don't like it, move! That being said, I'll argue for America just to satisfy your hunger :D

Second, I didn't feel like reading through all nine pages of bacon talk so if I say something that has already been said, lo siento!

Alright alright, down to business. So you're arguing that Canada is better because of gay marriage, abortion, health care, and mary j? Well, it just so happens that America is a democratic nation, similar (but not the same) as Canada. If gay marriage truly was what the majority wanted, we would have it. The same goes for pot. (although I agree with you about not putting people in prison for posession.)

Also, I really don't think you should brag about abortion. Nobody is pro-abortion, at least I hope. Anyway, abortion is legal in America too so I don't know what you're point is. Wait, can you kill your kids in Canada at any point of their life? Cool!

Canadian health care is a joke and is failing, just google it. There are articles upon articles written about it and 99.9% of them are against it. I've read testimonial after testimonial of poor Canadians who were forced to come to the terrible country of America just to get something as simple as knee surgery or even something as life saving as an EKG. Paying 46% of every dollar to pay for "national" health care that isn't always available to you is just insane.

CC, I think you misunderstand the term Democracy. You think it means majority rule, but in actual fact there are a multitude of different types of Democracy, ranging from mob rule (see Reign of Terror - French Revolution) to Socialist Democracies (see Soviet Union) to representative Democracy (like the United States). We are a representative Democracy. We elect people to make our laws for us. Once they get in office, they pretty much do as they see fit, and then, through a system of organized lying, distraction and diversion of attention, convince us that they didn't do what they did and that we actually wanted something we didn't want.

I know there are multiple forms of democracy, and the fact that there are doesn't negate the truth of my statement. If gay marriage was what the majority of America wanted, politicians (especially the left) would jump on it. Right now, being in support of gay marriage would cost any politician the White House because such a huge majority is against it. We elect politicians who are not for gay marriage because we don't want gay marriage. If they got elected and then voted for gay marriage, chances are we wouldn't vote for them again and because of this most of them don't vote for it in the first place!

Hey Neesika,

Tangent time:

I only caught bits and pieces of a radio story.

I think it was in the sixties, where Canadian aboriginal children were getting abused and beaten to death while in religious schools?

Have you heard of this and if so what and where can I find info?

No, that never happened. Move Along.

Of course it's true. Don't you have Catholic nuns in the States? :confused: :tongue:

Internet. Google: scandal aboriginal residential school. (http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0012194)

DO NOT sully the good name that is Canada with your...facts.

*Shoots Steve in the back of the head with a silenced pistol*

I know there are multiple forms of democracy, and the fact that there are doesn't negate the truth of my statement. If gay marriage was what the majority of America wanted, politicians (especially the left) would jump on it. Right now, being in support of gay marriage would cost any politician the White House because such a huge majority is against it. We elect politicians who are not for gay marriage because we don't want gay marriage. If they got elected and then voted for gay marriage, chances are we wouldn't vote for them again and because of this most of them don't vote for it in the first place!

But the problem with what you are saying is that laws against same-sex marriage deprive same-sex couples of (1) the fundamental right to marry and (2) equal protection under the law on the basis of gender and/or sexual orientation.

We have a federal Constitution and state constitutions precisely because some things aren't to be left to the vicissitudes of public opinion. Thus, we have a growing number of states like California and Connecticut that have legalized same-sex marriage because it is required by the state constitution.

Hopefully, if popular opinion doesn't change, the U.S. Supreme Court will enforce the holding of Loving v. Virginia (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=388&invol=1), 388 U.S. 1 (1967), to the context of same-sex marriage.

I know there are multiple forms of democracy, and the fact that there are doesn't negate the truth of my statement. If gay marriage was what the majority of America wanted, politicians (especially the left) would jump on it. Right now, being in support of gay marriage would cost any politician the White House because such a huge majority is against it. We elect politicians who are not for gay marriage because we don't want gay marriage. If they got elected and then voted for gay marriage, chances are we wouldn't vote for them again and because of this most of them don't vote for it in the first place!
Bullshit now give me a source to back it up or Take that back

umm... we have an amendment preventing Spurious George from ever being president again?

...

Had you said this with even a hint of irony, you would have absolutely pwnd me. I would have been forced to admit that you'd utterly shredded my (even joking) premise. I'd have :hail:.

I understand that you probably didn't mean it that way. I'm a little disappointed, but just recognising how sweet that could have been, I'm somewhat uplifted.

There are two 'scandals' that might interest you. One is the whole Residential Schools debacle (http://archives.cbc.ca/society/education/topics/692/), linked to already, though please note, it wasn't just the Catholics...the Anglicans in particular also ran a great many Residential Schools...but there is also the 60s scoop (http://www.wrcfs.org/repat/stolennation.htm).

What might also interest you is the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples (RCAP (http://www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/ch/rcap/sg/sgmm_e.html)) put out in '96 which discusses both the above, as well as systemic racism against aboriginal peoples from both a historical and contemporary perspective. Heavy reading, I understand if you don't go through it all. Nonetheless, anything I could tell you is very succinctly explained in that document.

Don't forget this was a government policy, 'contracted out' in a sense.

Secularism is no comfort.

*mumbles something about "Uppity Natives"* :p

I've always been confused by the whole Canadian bacon terminology.

I've always been confused by the whole 'Welsh Rabbit' terminology. There's no rabbit.

I know there are multiple forms of democracy, and the fact that there are doesn't negate the truth of my statement. If gay marriage was what the majority of America wanted, politicians (especially the left) would jump on it. Right now, being in support of gay marriage would cost any politician the White House because such a huge majority is against it. We elect politicians who are not for gay marriage because we don't want gay marriage. If they got elected and then voted for gay marriage, chances are we wouldn't vote for them again and because of this most of them don't vote for it in the first place!

No, the majority of Americans really don't care about gay marriage one way or the other. A loud, vocal minority is blowing the whole thing out of proportion in an attempt to make people care about something that, in terms of what's really going on in this country, isn't really important. If the religious right, a loud, vicious minority, weren't so up in arms about something so essentially innocuous, it wouldn't be an issue, gays would be allowed to marry and have their marriages recognized. This isn't about majority rule, it's about a loud, obnoxious, ill-informed minority attempting to take over the government and turn it into a loud, obnoxious, ill-informed theocracy.

I think we're getting off topic as to how awesome Canada is.

I think we're getting off topic as to how awesome Canada is.

Kathy Reichs sets her Temperance Brennan novels in Quebec, that's cool.

Healthcare debate from a few pages back:
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
30 Canada
37 United States of America

Also, on the overall level of health... (http://www.photius.com/rankings/world_health_performance_ranks.html) the US comes in 72nd in the world, after countries like Iran, Panama, Argentina, Canada, Columbia, Canada, France, Cuba, Israel... only three spots ahead of Iraq.

*assumes source is correct*
Huh.

....and conservatives got elected in Canada.

Canda is ahead of U.S.A. for the time being.

Ever since Australia started censoring the Internet, I've gained a new sense of appreciation for the US.

Canadian Bacon is just ham! /controversy

Not insulting!

I genuinely love our traditional foods. Yorkshire puddings. Sausage rolls. Cornish Pasties. A good solid fried breakfast. Jesus, it get's me wet just thinking about it.
Teaching us how to make a good fry up almost makes up for the whole 800 years of oppression thing. Almost.
umm... we have an amendment preventing Spurious George from ever being president again?

I'm fairly sure most countries have laws preventing foreigners becoming president. So yeah, the rest of the world is 8 years ahead on the "Not having Bush in charge".

well i think the thing you have up in canada is a lot of space. not just space but space with trees. so you've got hope of having something to breathe while the lower 48 are bussy destroying the web of life on the planet.

europe and japan though, have better transportation infrastructure then any of the rest of us.

i don't think there's any place on this planet that quite has it right though. just several places that are almost 'pretty darn good' anyway, or near it.

you know in america we have a cultural problem, with continuing to create markets for screwing ourselves up. i don't think we're unique in having that, just that we're somewhat the apex of it, still thinking we can get away with it forever because we have for a few hundred years, while indiginous peoples who over tens of thousands of years learned better the hard way are watching this and shaking their heads, and rightfully telling themselves they told us so.

Ever since Australia started censoring the Internet, I've gained a new sense of appreciation for the US.Huh. A person with a sense of appreciation for America. The Internets never cease to amaze me. :)

We like the negative attention.

Detroit Red Wings?

Ever since Australia started censoring the Internet, I've gained a new sense of appreciation for the US.

What makes you think the US doesn't?

Canuk, canuck, slang for a Canadian.

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canuck).

Muito brigado!

What makes you think the US doesn't?

It does. Try googling kiddie porn and see how long it takes the Feds to come and kick your door in.

You know what we've done better for the past fifteen years?

Keep Lord Stanley's Cup.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/tuebor/stanleycup.jpg

1. *Stereotypical, required American comment about Canadian accents*

3. It's F-ing COLD up there!

People where I'm from have almost the same accent and it's just as cold :p

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/tuebor/stanleycup.jpg



People where I'm from have almost the same accent and it's just as cold :p

That cup impresses me more than words ever could :)

People where I'm from have almost the same accent and it's just as cold :p
Alaska is Canada in all but name.:p

I know there are multiple forms of democracy, and the fact that there are doesn't negate the truth of my statement. If gay marriage was what the majority of America wanted, politicians (especially the left) would jump on it. Right now, being in support of gay marriage would cost any politician the White House because such a huge majority is against it. We elect politicians who are not for gay marriage because we don't want gay marriage. If they got elected and then voted for gay marriage, chances are we wouldn't vote for them again and because of this most of them don't vote for it in the first place!

The nice thing about this issue is that human rights trump majority rule.

That's why our countries have Constitutions.

We found gay marriage to be an issue of equal rights. One day, the states in your country that haven't caught up, eventually will.

....and conservatives got elected in Canada.

Canda is ahead of U.S.A. for the time being.

Our conservatives are further left than your Democrats.

Huh. A person with a sense of appreciation for America. The Internets never cease to amaze me. :)

Oh pish.

I like the strong activism and protection for civil liberties in the US. You folk are up against a lot of shit, and I'm always amazed by the fierce debates that go on....you see in Canada, we too often just accept people in positions of authority. Christ, until the Charter in 82, confessions obtained by force were admissible in court across the board. Not to mention the fact that few Canadians even seem aware of the way that Human Rights Commissions are able to stifle free expression.

Everyone loves Canada. Canada is like the worlds gay friend.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US.
But they have the 2nd highest rape rate in the world, and the 3rd highest robbery (I think) rate too.

Everyone loves Canada. Canada is like the worlds gay friend.

Stop stealing lines. Someone else said that and it was sigged by another member, so stop taking glory from other people.

But they have the 2nd highest rape rate in the world, and the 3rd highest robbery (I think) rate too.

Then how come Canadians don't have a problem with leaving their doors unlocked?

Then how come Canadians don't have a problem with leaving their doors unlocked?

That might be what does it. From what I've seen it films, quite a few Americans don't lock their doors either.

Muito brigado!

Portuguese?

That might be what does it. From what I've seen it films, quite a few Americans don't lock their doors either.

I've always heard Canadian society is far more lay-back than American. Canucks live more peacefully.

Alaska is Canada in all but name.:p

Not at all.

Portuguese?

Yup.

What makes you think the US doesn't?

Because it doesnt. The only laws enforced on the internet in the US is copyright enfringement and even that is enforced pretty weakly.

Because it doesnt. The only laws enforced on the internet in the US is copyright enfringement and even that is enforced pretty weakly.

WTF makes you say that?

Obscenity laws, defamation laws, patent laws, criminal statutes, torts -- essentially all laws that can be violated via the internet are enforced on the internet in the same ways those laws are enforced in other settings.

WTF makes you say that?

Obscenity laws, defamation laws, patent laws, criminal statutes, torts -- essentially all laws that can be violated via the internet are enforced on the internet in the same ways those laws are enforced in other settings.

No there not.

No there not.

Really? Tell that to the U.S. Department of Justice. link (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/internet/), link (http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2007/October/07_ojp_061.html), link (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/obscenity_internet.html). And the FBI (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx).

I could go on with more links, but your point is so ridiculously wrong I don't have to do so.

Really? Tell that to the U.S. Department of Justice. link (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/internet/), link (http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2007/October/07_ojp_061.html), link (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/ceos/obscenity_internet.html). And the FBI (http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx).

I could go on with more links, but your point is so ridiculously wrong I don't have to do so.

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=717374

Its more complicated than that.

http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=717374

Its more complicated than that.

I'm not sure what you think that article says, but it is completely non-responsive. To the extent is is at all relevant, it actually shows that there are laws other than copyright enforced on the internet!!!!

Is enforcing some laws on the internet more complicated than in other circumstances? Sure, but some laws are even easier to enforce on the internet AND that is far cry from saying that laws aren't enforced on the internet at all.

Really, just drop what was a stupid assertion on your part.

Not at all.

You're right, they have the misfortune of having Sarah Palin.

I'm not sure what you think that article says, but it is completely non-responsive. To the extent is is at all relevant, it actually shows that there are laws other than copyright enforced on the internet!!!!

Is enforcing some laws on the internet more complicated than in other circumstances? Sure, but some laws are even easier to enforce on the internet AND that is far cry from saying that laws aren't enforced on the internet at all.

Really, just drop what was a stupid assertion on your part.

Did you read the whole thing. The law states that websites are not responsible for Illegal material put onto there websites by other partys this is a huge loophole. Enforcement of laws on the internet are not enforced to the same degree as they are in the rest of America.

Did you read the whole thing. The law states that websites are not responsible for Illegal material put onto there websites by other partys this is a huge loophole. Enforcement of laws on the internet are not enforced to the same degree as they are in the rest of America.

I was thinking what response I was going to give, and I was scanning down the page... and I realised that you'd managed to run your 'legal' argument headfirst into one of our big-gun resident lawyers - which is impressive, because I don't know how you ran at all with BOTH feet in your mouth.

This should be entertaining in the same way it's entertaining to watch a chihuahua yap at a lion...

Because it doesnt. The only laws enforced on the internet in the US is copyright enfringement and even that is enforced pretty weakly.

I have to point out - just because YOU don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen...

Hell, with the government we've had for the best part of a decade, just because it's illegal or unconstitutional, doesn't mean it doesn't happen...

Did you read the whole thing. The law states that websites are not responsible for Illegal material put onto there websites by other partys this is a huge loophole. Enforcement of laws on the internet are not enforced to the same degree as they are in the rest of America.

I did read the whole thing. Did you? Most of the article is about special laws that apply to the internet.

Regardless, if you look at the statute that you are calling a big loophole (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/230.html), it says:

(e) Effect on other laws
(1) No effect on criminal law
Nothing in this section shall be construed to impair the enforcement of section 223 or 231 of this title, chapter 71 (relating to obscenity) or 110 (relating to sexual exploitation of children) of title 18, or any other Federal criminal statute.
(2) No effect on intellectual property law
Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit or expand any law pertaining to intellectual property.
(3) State law
Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent any State from enforcing any State law that is consistent with this section. No cause of action may be brought and no liability may be imposed under any State or local law that is inconsistent with this section.
(4) No effect on communications privacy law
Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the application of the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 or any of the amendments made by such Act, or any similar State law.

I could go farther into explaining what 42 USC § 230 actually does, which is primarly protect internet providers from civil liability for "any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected ..." (emphasis added), but that is just icing on the cake.

You're wrong. Bizarrely, irretreivably, bafflingly wrong. Just stop.

Any American with half a brain who lives in a city locks their door. Trust me I know I live in Chicago we all lock our doors.

Depends. I lived in Westchester (the part of Los Angeles right outside of the airport). When my grandma bought the house in 65, it had a lock on the front door. At some point, the lock broke. She seems to remember it being in the early 70's. Hasn't been locked since. Not a problem yet *knock on wood*

Stop stealing lines. Someone else said that and it was sigged by another member, so stop taking glory from other people.

LMAO ill give you a nickel if you can guess who that person was that said it and it was sigged by Rhynome i think btw. (Thats not actual spelling but close enough)

First time ive ever been accused of stealing my own lines.

Heres a paper bag with some holes cut out for eyes, enjoy ;)

You're wrong. Bizarrely, irretreivably, bafflingly wrong. Just stop.

Actually, I would like it if (s)he didn't stop, because of the depth of wrongness. I get a sort of perverse intellectual thrill out of it.

Depends. I lived in Westchester (the part of Los Angeles right outside of the airport). When my grandma bought the house in 65, it had a lock on the front door. At some point, the lock broke. She seems to remember it being in the early 70's. Hasn't been locked since. Not a problem yet *knock on wood*

does she have expensive stuff and whats the address???

It's true, because I doubt you see Canadians do this (http://notalwaysright.com/canada-americas-baseball-cap/1029) in the US.

It's true, because I doubt you see Canadians do this (http://notalwaysright.com/canada-americas-baseball-cap/1029) in the US.

I have seen Québecois get pissed off because the teenager behind the counter couldn't speak french...

Alaska is Canada in all but name.:p

Alaska? Try Michigan.

Unlike our attention whore neighbours to the south, Canadian elections do not drag on for what seems like years. It's in and out, very business like. If that makes you think we're boring in the sack, consider that we've had legal gay marriage across the board since 2005. You can get abortions here. Medical marijuana is A-OK, and there are no insane drug laws that get pot-smokers life sentences.

Our crime rate is a fraction, a tiny itty bitty little fraction of the crime rate in the US. Not one single person in Canada is denied access to health care regardless of the reason. And goddamn it, we have poutine.

Try to console yourself with our trash (Celine Dion) while we legally vacation in Cuba and have orgies in tubs of maple syrup.

So what things do you think YOUR country just 'does right'?

Gloating is unseemly. But so is bragging and exaggeration, which I'm about to do quite a bit of.

Northern California is better than Canada. This is due to it being better than everywhere else. Everywhere else includes Canada. As to why it's better than everywhere else... it just is. That's why it costs more. Because you get what you pay for.

Southern California is not better than Canada. Or anything, really. Except maybe Texas, Florida and large parts of the Deep South. But that's about it.

The best country is Japan. Except for all the earthquakes. I do not live in Japan! I live in America.

The best country is Japan. Except for all the earthquakes. I do not live in Japan! I live in America.

You must live somewhere where there aren't any earthquakes, to be that terrified of them.

I have never been in an earthquake.

I have seen Québecois get pissed off because the teenager behind the counter couldn't speak french...

Stupid is universal, don't get me wrong. I don't think I've ever met someone from another country, however, that was confused about the country they were in or the currency needed. Then again, I've never worked customer service in Norway, so I'm not sure how many people try to use Euros here.

I have never been in an earthquake.

Where are you from?

Here, we're on the "Ring of Fire" and all, but we get like, two big earthquakes a century. That's all. Little ones happen all the time, but they don't do shit.

Myself, I'm much more scared of fire than I am of earthquakes. Because devastating fires happen here much more often. I find that only people who aren't from places that have earthquakes are very frightened of them. Those of us who have grown up with the danger or lived with it for a long time are more concerned than scared, it seems.

I have seen Québecois get pissed off because the teenager behind the counter couldn't speak french...

In Quebec, where 90% of the population speaks french? And service people are required by law to be able to speak at least some french?

Yes. Some Québecois do get a bit frustrated with store clerks who are unable to help them, despite the fact that that's their job.

But this is all besides the point, as this thread discusses how Canada is better than the USA, not how Québec is better than the USA (which Québec is). They are two different nations. Try to get it right. Trust me, if you want to see a pissed off Québecois, you don't have to wait around in anglophone retail outlets; you can just call them Canadians.

Alaska? Try Michigan.

Alaska is cold. No one cares about Alaska. Most of Alaska's people live near another country. Alaska has people we all hate coming out of it.

Therefore, Alaska is Canada.:p

I can bitch about many things , but US is still a good country. Grass isn't always greener.

Canada has PEI and the best transcontinental Railway, So they Win Hands Down. And they were in both World Wars from the start........

Canada is Americas attic. Americans go there, look around and say, "Oh yea i forgot all about that this was here, i wonder if it still fits?".

Pfff canada is so much better
Proof:
Change your course now
This is the transcript of an actual radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995.

Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations on November 10, 1995.

Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North to avoid a collision.

Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.

Americans: This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again, divert YOUR course.

Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.

Americans: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS LINCOLN, THE SECOND LARGEST SHIP IN THE UNITED STATES' ATLANTIC FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY THREE DESTROYERS, THREE CRUISERS, AND NUMEROUS SUPPORT VESSELS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES NORTH, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES NORTH, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THIS SHIP.

Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

Pfff canada is so much better
Proof:
.......

Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.

Who puts people with radios in lighthouses? Most lighthouses in my parts are in essence lights on a stick with timers. Or is that a Canadian employment opportunity?

Who puts people with radios in lighthouses? Most lighthouses in my parts are in essence lights on a stick with timers. Or is that a Canadian employment opportunity?

. .. that was a joke . .. :( I have a terrible sense of humor

but Canada was better in WW1 and WW2 :eek2: and Canadians where the only ones to win their beach in D-Day, and that was the reason that France was won back so, :hail:

but Canada was better in WW1 and WW2 :eek2: and Canadians where the only ones to win their beach in D-Day, and that was the reason that France was won back so, :hail:

...what?

It's true, because I doubt you see Canadians do this (http://notalwaysright.com/canada-americas-baseball-cap/1029) in the US.

That's hilarious. I want to see more people doing things like that.

We should totally get some American NSGers to go meet up in Toronto or something and then loudly complain about how the Canadians won't take their money.

We have Delta Force, Army Special Forces, Marine Force Recon, and the Army Rangers (Airborne, as well).
Canadians have, what, JTF2?
In essence, our entire military is "done right". Not to say that they're perfect. *insert deity here* knows that they aren't.

Canadians are historically good fighters, with a good service record in the Royal (As in British) Army. they have also enjoyed good services records, serving in Afghanistan, like the British.

Btw, SAS. PARA's, RM Commandos. nuff said. You have been equalled if not surpassed.

I like both countries by the way.
Canada slightly more as they do not seem to suffer from "We're American so we're the best and nothing we ever do can ever be wrong" syndrome

but Canada was better in WW1 and WW2 :eek2: and Canadians where the only ones to win their beach in D-Day, and that was the reason that France was won back so, :hail:

The British and Americans "won" their beaches too...

Thing is with ALLIES. It is a combined effort.

Where are you from?

Here, we're on the "Ring of Fire" and all, but we get like, two big earthquakes a century. That's all. Little ones happen all the time, but they don't do shit.

Myself, I'm much more scared of fire than I am of earthquakes. Because devastating fires happen here much more often. I find that only people who aren't from places that have earthquakes are very frightened of them. Those of us who have grown up with the danger or lived with it for a long time are more concerned than scared, it seems.

I live in Laredo. I was born in San diego.

Love canada i've been there but the culture and diffrent pepole of america is to much to pass up the diffrent pepole here is what makes america so great

Love canada i've been there but the culture and diffrent pepole of america is to much to pass up the diffrent pepole here is what makes america so great

One time , on the news in Laredo , someone said "Mexico has alot of culture"Then it showed a guy pushing a Mexican popsicle cart.

That's hilarious. I want to see more people doing things like that.

We should totally get some American NSGers to go meet up in Toronto or something and then loudly complain about how the Canadians won't take their money.

I love playing up to stereotypes :D

Like piling 8 Indians into a broken down old brown cadillac and driving around town with the windows down asking where the Bing Hall is.

Love canada i've been there but the culture and diffrent pepole of america is to much to pass up the diffrent pepole here is what makes america so great

I'd like to meet a pepole. Also some punctuation.

Bah! Fuck Canada and the US. Europe´s better!:D

Bah! Fuck Canada and the US. Europe´s better!:D

^Approves^

Europe's got all those problems with Muslims. And blacks. And Albanians. Ewwww.

Bah! Fuck Canada and the US. Europe´s better!:D

Hmmm, agreed.

Europe is made of win.

Europe's got all those problems with Muslims. And blacks. And Albanians. Ewwww.

At least, we don't have to cope with far-leftwing female First Nation lawyers :wink:

Minority government... HOW FUN

More so than a conservative majority

I like bacon

Bah! Fuck Canada and the US. Europe´s better!:D

Europe is built for small people.

At least, we don't have to cope with far-leftwing female First Nation lawyers :wink:
Yet.

We'll be in yer countries stealing yer wimmins eventually.

Also, thank you for saying far-left and not liberal. I hate feeling watered down!
I like bacon

You and I can be friends.

I like to rub it on my chest. You?

Bah! Fuck Canada and the US. Europe´s better!:D

Europe is too dirty and old and haunted

At least, we don't have to cope with far-leftwing female First Nation lawyers :wink:

Yeah, but how about far-rightwing female Dominionist governors?:(

At least, we don't have to cope with far-leftwing female First Nation lawyers :wink:

Or having the US as a neighbor.:tongue:

I live in Laredo. I was born in San diego.

I see. I remember the '89 Earthquake. Some people died, but not that many, and stuff fell down, which caused problems but I was fine. And the bay area in general recovered quite quickly.

So you've never been in an earthquake, not even a little one? The little ones are kinda exciting. It makes you feel very alive. The big ones are decades apart.

Europe is too dirty and old and haunted

That's part of the charm. I always liked that about Europe.

Bah...Europe, a bunch of commie wusses...



:p

Canada has the kinda of dental care that gives England its dental problem.

Bah...Europe, a bunch of commie wusses...



:p

Canuck, I´m going to roast you!:mad:




:D

Canuck, I´m going to roast you!:mad:




:D*Shoves a spindle down Canuck's throat and throws him/her over a fire.*

Ha, I beat you to it.:p

Canuck, I´m going to roast you!:mad:




:D"Roasted Canuck", anyone? :eek:
*Shoves a spindle down Canuck's throat and throws him/her over a fire.*

Ha, I beat you to it. :p$5.00! Get your Roasted Canuck, $5.00! :D

"Roasted Canuck", anyone? :eek:

Canuck bacon is ham!! NM is ham!!:eek2:

Canuck bacon is ham!! NM is ham!!:eek2:And he's only $5.00! (USD, mind.)

"Roasted Canuck", anyone? :eek:
$5.00! Get your Roasted Canuck, $5.00! :DHow dare you try to steal my thunder.

*Throws a lightning rod down Gauntleted Fist's throat and conjurs force lightning to cook Fist.*

Fried Gauntleted Fist only $1.00 a pound. Get it here!

Or get roasted Canuck for $3.00!

And he's only $5.00! (USD, mind.)

Be that as it may, I don´t like red meat.:D

How dare you try to steal my thunder.

*Throws a lightning rod down Gauntleted Fist's throat and conjurs force lightning to cook Fist.*

Fried Gauntleted Fist only $1.00 a pound. Get it here!

Or get roasted Canuck for $3.00!Well, at least I'm wanted by somebody. :(

Be that as it may, I don´t like red meat.:DGood thing that I'm told that I taste like chicken.
No, seriously. I was told that once. o_0

Good thing that I'm told that I taste like chicken.
No, seriously. I was told that once. o_0

American, the other white meat.

American, the other white meat.Yet another memorable moment on NSG. One for the scrapbooks.

Yet another memorable moment on NSG. One for the scrapbooks.

Amen!

We have guns and football. And John Wayne. And President Reagan. And President Lincoln. And now that we have Sam Adams, y'all don't even have better beer.
Sam Adams is swill.

The only good beer in the US is microbrewed or imported.

Alls I know is that I was in Victoria this summer and the price of a case of beer was simply criminal. :mad:

So there. :p
Yeah, Stephen Harper likes to mention how he lowered the GST, but not how he jacked up the alcohol tax.

STOP EATING ME!!!! I know us Canadians are delicious, unlike you rancid tasting Non-Canadians. But you barbarians need to control your urges.

American, the other white meat.I do no know country backgrounds for every NSGer so I cannot make funny jokes about their home country.

Damn French...

STOP EATING ME!!!! I know us Canadians are delicious, unlike you rancid tasting Non-Canadians. But you barbarians need to control your urges.You've eaten non-Canadians? You, sir, not I, are a barbarian! :mad:

Kidding, kidding. :)

You know, you Canucks are lucky we didn't join the Central Powers in World War One.

Ya'll'd be Merkins now if we had.

You know, you Canucks are lucky we didn't join the Central Powers in World War One.

Ya'll'd be Merkins now if we had.

Someone's been reading his Turtledove.

Canadian Military Motto: An Army of One. His name is Bob.

Alaska is cold. No one cares about Alaska. Most of Alaska's people live near another country. Alaska has people we all hate coming out of it.

Therefore, Alaska is Canada.:p

Yeah, but I'm not from Alaska. Also, none of that really makes any sense.

You know, you Canucks are lucky we didn't join the Central Powers in World War One.

Ya'll'd be Merkins now if we had.
I never thought of that....would we have invaded Canada?

Someone's been reading his Turtledove.
TL-191 is rather badly written. He's got some nice ideas, but now that I've been branching out, I can tell that Turtledove is basically your typical mainstream provider in any genre: decent, but almost never the best.
I never thought of that....would we have invaded Canada?
Most assuredly. The Canadians were fighting as hard as they could during World War I with Britain, just as they would do so in World War II as well. Had we been allied to the Central Powers, we would have gone to war against Canada.

Whether we would have annexed the whole country, or just held down parts, or maybe annexed most of it and released Quebec as a puppet...I think only those who do some good, honest research on the matter could say.

The Canadians certainly wouldn't have gotten away without at least a punch in the face though.

Canadian Military Motto: An Army of One. His name is Bob.

yea, but you haven't seen Bob, he's like 10 Rambos put together.