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Proud to be White!!!

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Colovian Highlands
06-10-2008, 17:16
Very interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives...

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:
Neo Art
06-10-2008, 17:17
This will not end well.
Muravyets
06-10-2008, 17:19
This will not end well.
I'm not so sure. *gets popcorn and beer*
Colovian Highlands
06-10-2008, 17:19
This will not end well.

Why not? Be proud to be white, my brother!!!
Vault 10
06-10-2008, 17:19
I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:
Whites are not a minority here.

In Asia, it's Asians who are racist, often towards Whites. Although the Asian culture is a bit less self-flagellating, so it's less of a concern.
Aperture Science
06-10-2008, 17:20
I blame the economy. And Jews.
Muravyets
06-10-2008, 17:21
This will not end well.

Why not? Be proud to be white, my brother!!!
Ha! Entertaining so far. :D
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 17:22
Ha! Entertaining so far. :D

Yeah, I cracked up at that.
Neo Art
06-10-2008, 17:22
Why not? Be proud to be white, my brother!!!

why in the world would you assume I was white?

On this entire forum I can count exactly one poster here who has seen me live and in person, it's not you.
Sirmomo1
06-10-2008, 17:24
I blame the economy. And Jews.

Mmm hmmm

I too share the dream that one day little black boys and black girls will join hands with little white boys and white girls and throw rocks at them dirty jews.
Muravyets
06-10-2008, 17:24
why in the world would you assume I was white?

On this entire forum I can count exactly one poster here who has seen me live and in person, it's not you.
He bought the Big Brother monitor, apparently. He can see us, though we can't see him. :eek2:
96792
06-10-2008, 17:25
I'm proud to be Hawaiian. :v
Colovian Highlands
06-10-2008, 17:26
why in the world would you assume I was white?

On this entire forum I can count exactly one poster here who has seen me live and in person, it's not you.

Well you have the interwebs, so you must have money...And white people have more money than black people.

I have a theory. Minorities throw out the race card because they are jealous of our wealth. They are socialists. They figure if they make us feel guilty, we will share our monies with them. Look at native Americans! They get free education, where as white people have to pay their way! And look at blacks, they get reparations for being black, because of slavery. Another way that socialists are taking over this nation.
Psychotic Mongooses
06-10-2008, 17:29
I dunno. Satire just ain't what it used to be......

*getting old*
Neo Art
06-10-2008, 17:30
Well, your original thread was sufficiently full of white power talking points that it was conceivably valid opinion piece, but you just treaded over the other side of Poe's Law.
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 17:31
Well you have the interwebs, so you must have money...And white people have more money than black people.

And know who has more money than whites?
Frisbeeteria
06-10-2008, 17:32
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.
Aperture Science
06-10-2008, 17:32
Well you have the interwebs, so you must have money...And white people have more money than black people.

I have a theory. Minorities throw out the race card because they are jealous of our wealth. They are socialists. They figure if they make us feel guilty, we will share our monies with them. Look at native Americans! They get free education, where as white people have to pay their way! And look at blacks, they get reparations for being black, because of slavery. Another way that socialists are taking over this nation.

Oh dear, but what can I do to stop the ******-commies from taking over?
Aperture Science
06-10-2008, 17:32
And know who has more money than whites?

Arabs, generally. From what I've seen :P
Colovian Highlands
06-10-2008, 17:34
And know who has more money than whites?

The jews. But that is okay. They rule the world, but only until Jesus returns. Then he will kill them all. It'll make the Holocaust look like a fun day at the park.
Eofaerwic
06-10-2008, 17:35
why in the world would you assume I was white?

On this entire forum I can count exactly one poster here who has seen me live and in person, it's not you.

But... but ... you're a lawyer. Surely that means you've got to be white.


Edit: Ok, I'm calling this one POE. We seem to have a rash of them at the moment.
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 17:36
First we had The Atlantian Islands. Now we have The Atlantian Islands and friends. We better watch out, we wouldn't NSG want to be overrun by Stormfront-members who think this forum would make a nice piece of conquered territory.
Khadgar
06-10-2008, 17:38
Well you have the interwebs, so you must have money...And white people have more money than black people.

I have a theory. Minorities throw out the race card because they are jealous of our wealth. They are socialists. They figure if they make us feel guilty, we will share our monies with them. Look at native Americans! They get free education, where as white people have to pay their way! And look at blacks, they get reparations for being black, because of slavery. Another way that socialists are taking over this nation.

You're cute.
Neesika
06-10-2008, 17:38
Look at native Americans! They get free education, where as white people have to pay their way!

GodDAMN it! Why didn't someone tell me I didn't have to go into massive debt to pay for my post-secondary education? Frick, I feel cheated!
Peepelonia
06-10-2008, 17:39
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

Well I have an auntie that is albino, she is quite white, except for her eyes.
Neesika
06-10-2008, 17:41
jolt is broken. Not letting me reply with quote!

Anyway, isn't the stereotype that all lawyers are Jewish?

Are Jews white?
Eofaerwic
06-10-2008, 17:41
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

Goths... with enough make-up
Newer Burmecia
06-10-2008, 17:41
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.
But you call me a racist.
Have you considered why?

At least MTAE was eloquent and vaguely interesting.
Muravyets
06-10-2008, 17:42
Well you have the interwebs, so you must have money...And white people have more money than black people.

I have a theory. Minorities throw out the race card because they are jealous of our wealth. They are socialists. They figure if they make us feel guilty, we will share our monies with them. Look at native Americans! They get free education, where as white people have to pay their way! And look at blacks, they get reparations for being black, because of slavery. Another way that socialists are taking over this nation.

The jews. But that is okay. They rule the world, but only until Jesus returns. Then he will kill them all. It'll make the Holocaust look like a fun day at the park.

Pace yourself. You don't want to be just a flash in the pan, do you?
Eofaerwic
06-10-2008, 17:42
jolt is broken. Not letting me reply with quote!

Anyway, isn't the stereotype that all lawyers are Jewish?

Are Jews white?

Hmm... good point. We may have to check on a colour chart.
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 17:42
Most Jews are Caucasian, just like the average WASP.
Neo Art
06-10-2008, 17:44
The jews. But that is okay. They rule the world, but only until Jesus returns. Then he will kill them all. It'll make the Holocaust look like a fun day at the park.

nah, you lost it. You were actually slightly believable as a white power nationalist hiding under the guise of the "I just want to have pride in my race!" line, but you lost it.

Hint, less is more.
Neesika
06-10-2008, 17:44
Most Jews are Caucasian, just like the average WASP.

I don't know many Jews who'd let you call them white.
Hydesland
06-10-2008, 17:46
I don't know many Jews who'd let you call them white.

I'm completely white, although I'm only half German-Jewish (assuming there is a Jewish race).
Sacred Independence
06-10-2008, 17:48
Very interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives...

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:

I've gotten this chain email so many times :/
Muravyets
06-10-2008, 17:50
nah, you lost it. You were actually slightly believable as a white power nationalist hiding under the guise of the "I just want to have pride in my race!" line, but you lost it.

Hint, less is more.
Yeah, I think you're right. This one made the novice mistake, leaving us with nowhere to go. Oh, well, at least I got popcorn and beer out of it. *puts on the tv*
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 17:51
I'm completely white, although I'm only half German-Jewish (assuming there is a Jewish race).

There is no such thing as a Jewish race, they're just one of many Caucasian tribes.
Psychotic Mongooses
06-10-2008, 17:54
There is no such thing as a Jewish race, they're just one of many Caucasian tribes.

Now now. Let's not be trying to develop this into a halfway serious thread.

*raps with newspaper*
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 17:59
Just trying to enlighten the unwashed masses, Psychotic Mongooses.
Laerod
06-10-2008, 18:27
GodDAMN it! Why didn't someone tell me I didn't have to go into massive debt to pay for my post-secondary education? Frick, I feel cheated!Silly Sin. You're a First Nation, not a Native American. =P
The Parkus Empire
06-10-2008, 18:33
Very interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives..

What in hell does that mean?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

:p

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.


Sticks and stones.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

Yes, and? I never called you "Cracker".

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

This is a complex issue. Would you like me to recommend you some books?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

Yes, it is all obtuse.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

Therefor?

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

Yes, it is all nonsense. What is your point? Fight stupidity with stupidity?

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.

Of course. How do you define "racism"?

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

Yes, and the black ones are too.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

Whites have never had their rights suppressed like blacks have (not in America, at least).

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us.

That behavior is condemned and illegal. People who do that end-up in prison.

But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

Yes, I expect a policeman to behave better than a criminal, if that is what you mean.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:


Anyone "proud" of his skin color is, in my eyes, very foolish.
Neesika
06-10-2008, 18:36
Silly Sin. You're a First Nation, not a Native American. =P

Oh sheesh, I'm so confused...it's got to be cuz I don't got them there smart white jeans.
Ashmoria
06-10-2008, 18:45
He bought the Big Brother monitor, apparently. He can see us, though we can't see him. :eek2:
or the romper room monitor!
Nodinia
06-10-2008, 18:46
Oh sheesh, I'm so confused...it's got to be cuz I don't got them there smart white jeans.

Now thats just not true.





It's because you're a woman.
Psychotic Mongooses
06-10-2008, 19:00
Now thats just not true.





It's because you're a woman.

/wins thread
Osteigia
06-10-2008, 19:08
Lol... crazy ofay!!
Call to power
06-10-2008, 19:08
oddly people usually call me Robbie\Robert even close friends I have known for years but I have never seen anyone shorten it to just rob (despite seeing other people being called rob)

why is this? is their some sort of conspiracy going on here? am I not fit for a 3 letter name?!

I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

you should see my arse.
Bitchkitten
06-10-2008, 19:15
I thought "Oh dear, I could just go on and on." But I won't. The op has gone so far over the top all I can do is laugh.
Kirchensittenbach
06-10-2008, 19:20
Most Jews are Caucasian, just like the average WASP.

yes most are, partly because of the interbreeding with them, and partly becasue many believe it to just be a religion and not a race as it is, many see nothing wrong with converting to that religion and be a part of that race

jews that come from more pureblood origins, [like mel brooks and jeff goldblum as examples] have the distinct light tan

- - - - -

and on the other note here, before Colovian Highlands get upset to the point his head explodes, let me just remind him that our white race is the only one to ever create empires of power - Roman Empire - White,....German Reich - White,....Soviet Union - White,....and even the USA was an empire before the 60s when Hippies, Drug users and Corrupt Politicians all hit the american people at the same time and destroyed the unity of its people
Psychotic Mongooses
06-10-2008, 19:23
that our white race is the only one to ever create empires of power - Roman Empire - White,....German Reich - White,....Soviet Union - White,....

Tis a joke right?
Vampire Knight Zero
06-10-2008, 19:25
Tis a joke right?

In this place? One can not be too sure.
Eofaerwic
06-10-2008, 19:25
and on the other note here, before Colovian Highlands get upset to the point his head explodes, let me just remind him that our white race is the only one to ever create empires of power - Roman Empire - White,....German Reich - White,....Soviet Union - White,....and even the USA was an empire before the 60s when Hippies, Drug users and Corrupt Politicians all hit the american people at the same time and destroyed the unity of its people

What do you call the Mongols then, the Ottoman Empire, the Chinese Empires, the Japanese Empire, the Egyptian Empire, the complete dominance of science and culture by the Arabs during the middle ages...
Free Outer Eugenia
06-10-2008, 19:25
Most Jews are Caucasian, just like the average WASP.

According to the currently dominant cockamamie race theories, yes. But not according to the no less valid insanity of ages past.
I will not even bother to comment on the batsh*t crazy racist OP. Sounds like a sad little troll to me.
The Archregimancy
06-10-2008, 19:26
even the USA was an empire before the 60s when Hippies, Drug users and Corrupt Politicians all hit the american people at the same time and destroyed the unity of its people

It comes as some relief to read that corrupt politicians and drug use were invented in the 1960s.

I must have imagined Tammany Hall and Edgar Allen Poe's Ligea (among other things). Thanks for correcting my bizarre misconceptions!
South Lorenya
06-10-2008, 19:28
You're not even white, you're off-pink.

Maybe THIS will jog your memory:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7966/dragonbathtx2.jpg

(deep apologies to any albino posters)
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 19:29
and on the other note here, before Colovian Highlands get upset to the point his head explodes, let me just remind him that our white race is the only one to ever create empires of power - Roman Empire - White,....German Reich - White,....Soviet Union - White,....and even the USA was an empire before the 60s when Hippies, Drug users and Corrupt Politicians all hit the american people at the same time and destroyed the unity of its people

The Soviets were Slavs. Slavs ain't white.
Carthippostan
06-10-2008, 19:36
At the risk of turning this ridiculousness into a semi-legitimate thread, an earlier response talked about asians being "racist against whites" in China/Japan etc. Are only the domininant ethnicity capable of being racists? Are blacks able to be racist against whites/asians/et al in America? Conversely, is a white Klansman or Skinhead suddenly no longer considerered racist if he moves to a place where he is an ethnic minority?
Adunabar
06-10-2008, 19:39
If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
That's called all the rest of history taught outside of black history month, or week as it is over here.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

Because whites don't at all have things made easier for them by certain organisations.
Nikkiovakia
06-10-2008, 19:56
The Soviets were Slavs. Slavs ain't white.

I have a friend that's a Slav, he calls himself olive. Not white, though I'm not quite sure that olive would be considered a race.
Nodinia
06-10-2008, 20:03
I have a friend that's a Slav, he calls himself olive.

I think you were looking for the "Gender Crisis" thread.....
German Nightmare
06-10-2008, 20:05
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/calvin.jpgVery interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives...

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 20:05
Tis a joke right?

More a matter of virulent insanity, I'm afraid.
Adunabar
06-10-2008, 20:06
The Soviets were Slavs. Slavs ain't white.

Yes they are. They're Indo-European.
Nikkiovakia
06-10-2008, 20:09
I think you were looking for the "Gender Crisis" thread.....

... oops, thank you... off to the gender crisis thread with me.
Snafturi
06-10-2008, 20:09
Anyone "proud" of his skin color is, in my eyes, very foolish.

^This. Seriously, I don't get it. It's not an achievement.
Vespertilia
06-10-2008, 20:21
The Soviets were Slavs. Slavs ain't white.

I have two questions:

1) is there any way to tell whether a given post is serious or not?

2) should I now do a facepalm and/or ask when has the word "white" changed its meaning, or suppose that post was a joke?
Wilgrove
06-10-2008, 20:29
This will not end well.

*shh* don't spoil the fun.

*eats popocorn and drinks beer*
Steelternia
06-10-2008, 20:35
^This. Seriously, I don't get it. It's not an achievement.
Precisely. Race is an unfortunately important aspect to American culture, when we're at a point in time and society where it shouldn't be as big of an issue, and yet...

http://www.bittermancircle.com/my%20images/BeatDeadHorse.gif
Gauntleted Fist
06-10-2008, 20:53
I'm proud to be American. (Seriously, am I the only one? :eek:)
But I'm not proud to be any certain color. :p
Ashmoria
06-10-2008, 20:53
not that you should be ashamed of being white but isnt it kinda pathetic to be proud of your freaking skin color?
JuNii
06-10-2008, 20:54
Now now. Let's not be trying to develop this into a halfway serious thread.

*raps with newspaper*
that better not be a newpaper printed on WHITE paper... :mad:

What do you call the Mongols then, the Ottoman Empire, the Chinese Empires, the Japanese Empire, the Egyptian Empire, the complete dominance of science and culture by the Arabs during the middle ages...
obviously they didn't exist... since only WHITE people could make empires.
JuNii
06-10-2008, 20:55
I'm proud to be American. (Seriously, am I the only one? :eek:) me too!

not that you should be ashamed of being white but isnt it kinda pathetic to be proud of your freaking skin color?
yep.. I'm white now... but after a day in the sun, would that then make me Red?
Adunabar
06-10-2008, 20:56
^This. Seriously, I don't get it. It's not an achievement.

Tell that to Michael Jackson.
Ashmoria
06-10-2008, 20:57
me too!


yep.. I'm white now... but after a day in the sun, would that then make me Red?
oh you should use sunscreen.

i turn from white to a very proudful brown-tinted white after a time in the sun. but it would still be pathetic to start a thread touting my pride at being tanned.
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 21:00
I have two questions:

1) is there any way to tell whether a given post is serious or not?

2) should I now do a facepalm and/or ask when has the word "white" changed its meaning, or suppose that post was a joke?

No, and the answer is extremely recently. Slavs were not historically considered white, and white supremacists today tend to still not view them as white.
Gauntleted Fist
06-10-2008, 21:00
me too!


yep.. I'm white now... but after a day in the sun, would that then make me Red? Nice. :D
It just seems that a lot of people don't appreciate America these days. I mean, come on people, we even have Canada as one of our border mates. How much more win do you need?
--
Okay, back to the point. Being white is nothing to be proud of. *insert Bush joke here*
Steelternia
06-10-2008, 21:02
No, and the answer is extremely recently. Slavs were not historically considered white, and white supremacists today tend to still not view them as white.
Since when did white supremacists have a monopoly on declaring who is of what race?
Forsakia
06-10-2008, 21:06
Since when did white supremacists have a monopoly on declaring who is of what race?

Since nobody else really cares to try?
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 21:06
Since when did white supremacists have a monopoly on declaring who is of what race?

Never. But when a white supremacist starts posting in the thread, you might as well argue with them on their own terminology.
JuNii
06-10-2008, 21:06
oh you should use sunscreen. I do... it's called a 'Roof'! ;)

i turn from white to a very proudful brown-tinted white after a time in the sun. but it would still be pathetic to start a thread touting my pride at being tanned.

see, you're either White or Brown... :p
Ashmoria
06-10-2008, 21:07
I do... it's called a 'Roof'! ;)



see, you're either White or Brown... :p
yeah i got the good skin genes. my sister either burns or gets a nasty rash from the sun. nothing to be proud about there.
The Atlantian islands
06-10-2008, 21:42
First we had The Atlantian Islands. Now we have The Atlantian Islands and friends. We better watch out, we wouldn't NSG want to be overrun by Stormfront-members who think this forum would make a nice piece of conquered territory.
You're seriously incorrect if you believe I'm a White Nationalist and/or am pro-Stormfront.

I mean seriously....:rolleyes:
German Nightmare
06-10-2008, 22:11
I'm proud to be American. (Seriously, am I the only one? :eek:)
I'm just glad that I'm not.
Gauntleted Fist
06-10-2008, 22:16
I'm just glad that I'm not.Glad that you aren't American? :confused:
Augmark
06-10-2008, 22:17
I'm proud to be human, we must take out our anger on the other inferior species of the world!
Neesika
06-10-2008, 22:17
You're seriously incorrect if you believe I'm a White Nationalist and/or am pro-Stormfront.

I mean seriously....:rolleyes:

Yes, we all have you so wrong.

It's almost certain that you're not a member of stormfront, or a white power organisation, true.

You are a racist, however. Which you'll deny because that's an overly harsh term. No no, you're not racist, you are simply afraid for the future of your 'people' and their 'culture' and you think that 'racial/cultural mixing' is harmful.

Totally not racist. Something else. Softer. Nicer. Less disgusting.
Hurdegaryp
06-10-2008, 22:20
Given The Atlantian Islands' outspoken ideas about Europe, I'm wondering in what part of the world he lives. And how old is the lad anyway? I just don't have all the pieces of the puzzle.
CthulhuFhtagn
06-10-2008, 22:21
He lives in the States.
Nikkiovakia
06-10-2008, 22:21
I'm not exactly proud to be an American and as long as I stay in America, I won't have to be embarrassed about it either.
Neo Art
06-10-2008, 22:23
Yes, we all have you so wrong.

It's almost certain that you're not a member of stormfront, or a white power organisation, true.

You are a racist, however. Which you'll deny because that's an overly harsh term. No no, you're not racist, you are simply afraid for the future of your 'people' and their 'culture' and you think that 'racial/cultural mixing' is harmful.

Totally not racist. Something else. Softer. Nicer. Less disgusting.

It's the new brand of racism. It's not about skin color any more. It's not about genetics, or eugenics, or belief that someone is inferior based on the appearance of their parents.

No, this new bigotry isn't about color, it's about "culture". No, they don't look you in the face and tell you how much blacks are inferior anymore. Now they take the softer approach, they speak not of people, but of nations. They use words that are hard to object to, like "community", "togetherness", "common bonds". But in the end the new dance is the same as the old dance. Not inferior races anymore, just inferior cultures. But just as it used to be "we don't want the mud people here anymore" it's become "we don't want their culture infecting our culture". the "we don't think you're bad PEOPLE, we just think your BELIEFS are bad, and your PRACTICES are bad, and your FAITH is bad, but we're not racist, we don't discriminate, just as long as you abandon every element that makes you you"

And in the end, just as the old racists believed that some races were superior, and it just happened to be theirs, the new bigots talk about superior and inferior cultures, and the superior ones are, of course, the ones they belong to.

All the while refusing to acknowledge that culture, just like race, is nothing more than a mish mash of other things, all rolled together to create what it is today, malleable, changeable, and, fundamentally, arbitrary.

edit: of course, the new bigots like to disguise it one step further sometimes. They might not even take the superior/inferior dichotomy. They might try to pretend that it's now how they think. They might talk in lofty terms and high goals, they might say to you "you like to be proud of your culture right? Well, I like to be proud of mine, don't you think I should be proud of mine, just like you're proud of yours? No, your culture isn't BAD, and you should KEEP your culture, so why don't you go over there, with other people like you, and I'll stay over here, with people like me, and that way MY culture doesn't get infec...I mean, changed by yours, and YOUR culture, which I totally respect, by the way, can also remain pure, just the way it is...over there, in your own country. Away from me"
G3N13
06-10-2008, 22:26
I'm completely white, although I'm only half German-Jewish (assuming there is a Jewish race).

Judaism is both an ethnicity close to other semites and a religion

Albeit, as far as race goes they're humans.
Lunatic Goofballs
06-10-2008, 22:33
To borrow a point made by the late great George Carlin,

Why would you be proud to be white, black, gay, straight, italian, irish or anything else?

Pride should be for something you achieve and not for circumstances of birth. Being white isn't a skill; it's a genetic accident!

Don't be proud. Be happy. Be happy to be white. That should be plenty for anybody.

You blue-eyed devils you. ;)
Call to power
06-10-2008, 22:35
I'm proud to be human, we must take out our anger on the other inferior species of the world!

I'd rather be a sloth or possibly a 50ft tall rampaging scorpion

I'm not exactly proud to be an American and as long as I stay in America, I won't have to be embarrassed about it either.

bah we all like ice cream so what does it matter beyond that?
Hammurab
06-10-2008, 22:43
To borrow a point made by the late great George Carlin,

Why would you be proud to be white, black, gay, straight, italian, irish or anything else?

Pride should be for something you achieve and not for circumstances of birth. Being white isn't a skill; it's a genetic accident!

Don't be proud. Be happy. Be happy to be white. That should be plenty for anybody.

You blue-eyed devils you. ;)

Word, to the fallen Knight of the Order of Huxley, died sober with over half a century on The Job...and praise to his Gods, the sun and Joe Pesci.
German Nightmare
06-10-2008, 22:44
Glad that you aren't American? :confused:
Yup. That I am.
To borrow a point made by the late great George Carlin,

Why would you be proud to be white, black, gay, straight, italian, irish or anything else?

Pride should be for something you achieve and not for circumstances of birth. Being white isn't a skill; it's a genetic accident!

Don't be proud. Be happy. Be happy to be white. That should be plenty for anybody.

You blue-eyed devils you. ;)
Oh George, George... if only more people would listen to the old wise fucker.
Alerta
06-10-2008, 22:45
The white man stole my people's land.
Neesika
06-10-2008, 22:50
The white man stole my people's land.

What are you claiming to be, nechi?
Lunatic Goofballs
06-10-2008, 22:52
The white man stole my people's land.

Bullshit. I'm sure it's right where you left it. :)
Wilgrove
07-10-2008, 00:22
I'm Whitey and I apologize! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVrec9pT_g)
New Limacon
07-10-2008, 00:34
jolt is broken. Not letting me reply with quote!

Anyway, isn't the stereotype that all lawyers are Jewish?

Are Jews white?

I don't think so. Moneylenders are stereotypically Jewish, as are bankers. Lawyers are stereotypically criminal, but not Jewish.

The OP misses a point that lots of people seem to miss (assuming he's not just messing with us and trolling.) The concept of "black pride" exists because blacks in the United States have struggled for years to be treated as equals and have the same opportunities; it's a struggle that still continues. Being proud to be black is pride in this tradition, a tradition that for many years was mocked and lessened by historians.
There are plenty of reasons I can think a white person would be proud of their heritage, but being white isn't one of them. This, and the fact that immigration records are easier to find than slave records, is why I think most white Americans (meaning Americans with ancestors from Europe) think of their ancestors as being from Poland or Ireland or Prussia, not Europe. The only time "white people" were in solidarity in the US was when they were opposing blacks.
Arroza
07-10-2008, 00:37
I'm Whitey and I apologize! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVrec9pT_g)

You better accept it too, you see how fast they got organized?
Neesika
07-10-2008, 00:41
I don't think so. Moneylenders are stereotypically Jewish, as are bankers. Lawyers are stereotypically criminal, but not Jewish.
Lawyers are stereotypically rich. And from inside the legal community, I can tell you that there indeed is a strong stereotype that the majority of lawyers are Jewish.
New Limacon
07-10-2008, 00:43
Lawyers are stereotypically rich. And from inside the legal community, I can tell you that there indeed is a strong stereotype that the majority of lawyers are Jewish.

Maybe it's a stereotype that only exists among lawyers. That would make sense, actually, as lawyers are stereotypically anti-Semitic. Okay, I just made that up.
Neesika
07-10-2008, 00:45
Maybe it's a stereotype that only exists among lawyers. That would make sense, actually, as lawyers are stereotypically anti-Semitic. Okay, I just made that up.

Yeah, yeah you did:P

Almost all of my profs are jewish :P
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 00:47
Maybe it's a stereotype that only exists among lawyers. That would make sense, actually, as lawyers are stereotypically anti-Semitic. Okay, I just made that up.

moneylenders/bankers, doctors, and lawyers are all stereotypically Jewish.
New Limacon
07-10-2008, 00:47
Yeah, yeah you did:P

Almost all of my profs are jewish :P

Hm; that's interesting. Not only have I never heard of the stereotype that lawyers are Jewish, I've never even met or heard of an individual Jewish lawyer (except Neo Art) until now. Odd.
Neo Art
07-10-2008, 00:48
I've always had the stereotype of "lawyers are jewish". But maybe that's because the relative truth of that (lots of lawyers are jewish) is only noticeable when you know a lot of jews, or lawyers.

Being both, I know a lot of both, so the stereotype makes sense to me.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 00:54
I wonder where all these ranters come from. Apparently, they do not live in the same Amerikastan that I do.
New Limacon
07-10-2008, 00:56
I've always had the stereotype of "lawyers are jewish". But maybe that's because the relative truth of that (lots of lawyers are jewish) is only noticeable when you know a lot of jews, or lawyers.

Being both, I know a lot of both, so the stereotype makes sense to me.
Maybe if I knew many lawyers personally I would notice. As it is, the few lawyers I meet don't say, "Hi, I'm an attorney. I'm also a Jew."
Trans Fatty Acids
07-10-2008, 01:01
There are plenty of reasons I can think a white person would be proud of their heritage, but being white isn't one of them. This, and the fact that immigration records are easier to find than slave records, is why I think most white Americans (meaning Americans with ancestors from Europe) think of their ancestors as being from Poland or Ireland or Prussia, not Europe. The only time "white people" were in solidarity in the US was when they were opposing blacks.

I hate to use Wikipedia as a source, but the article on White People (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whites) suggests the same thing (and it's easier to link to than that Discover Magazine issue from the mid-90s.) One of the reasons it's rather silly to be proud of being white is that "white" didn't mean much before we had all of these dark-skinned people to systematically oppress. Which makes sense when you consider the various pale-skinned peoples who weren't "white" until recently, or who experienced some period of "non-whiteness": Irish, Mediterraneans of many kinds, Slavs of all stripes, et al.
Poliwanacraca
07-10-2008, 01:02
I've always had the stereotype of "lawyers are jewish". But maybe that's because the relative truth of that (lots of lawyers are jewish) is only noticeable when you know a lot of jews, or lawyers.

Being both, I know a lot of both, so the stereotype makes sense to me.

I've never really encountered the "lawyers/doctors are all Jewish" stereotype before, but I have encountered the "Jews are all lawyers/doctors" stereotype plenty of times. I suspect it's really rather more accurate, given the relatively small proportion of Jews to non-Jews in this country.

(I have a rather ridiculous number of friends who are Jewish, lawyers, or doctors, and as it happens, those sets don't overlap at all among my real-life friends. If I were going by my friends, I'd actually have to conclude that Jews are all computer programmers or musicians. :p )
Avarahn
07-10-2008, 01:11
HAHAHAHA ..

the posts here are just hillarious .. lol
Neesika
07-10-2008, 01:12
Maybe if I knew many lawyers personally I would notice. As it is, the few lawyers I meet don't say, "Hi, I'm an attorney. I'm also a Jew."

Oh please. You didn`t notice that the lawyers you met looked like this!?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/chandy0717/jew.gif
Neesika
07-10-2008, 01:13
HAHAHAHA ..

the posts here are just hillarious .. lol

Are you Jewish?

If so, we're laughing AT you, not with you.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 01:14
Oh please. You didn`t notice that the lawyers you met looked like this!?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/chandy0717/jew.gif

Hey! I resemble that!:mad:
Neesika
07-10-2008, 01:16
Hey! I resemble that!:mad:

Put that fabulous nose to work then...
Lockwasher
07-10-2008, 01:17
Everyone who can take personal credit, responsibility or blame for your racial heritage: please continue. We're all "fascinated."
Lunatic Goofballs
07-10-2008, 01:18
Oh please. You didn`t notice that the lawyers you met looked like this!?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/chandy0717/jew.gif

I don't know about the rest, but those are definitely lawyer eyes. *shudder*
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 01:22
Everyone who can take personal credit, responsibility or blame for your racial heritage: please continue. We're all "fascinated."

I went back in time and played Johnny B. Goode at my parents' dance to ensure that they got together. So I can take personal credit for being who I am. Except now I have a sweet truck.
Callisdrun
07-10-2008, 01:23
Very interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives...

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:

Not only "whites" can be racist. I don't like the term "white," though, as my skin is actually a sort of light tan/cream/red color. The term also glosses over actual cultural differences between different ethnicities. So go away, n00b
Non Aligned States
07-10-2008, 01:28
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person,

Oh really? (http://torontoist.com/attachments/toronto_jamesh/2007_08_07clown.jpg)

:p
King Arthur the Great
07-10-2008, 01:32
Oh really? (http://torontoist.com/attachments/toronto_jamesh/2007_08_07clown.jpg)

:p

Damn. It's true then. LG, and all other clowns, really are the whitest of us all. Guess we all know a truly white guy. And he has pie.
Hurdegaryp
07-10-2008, 01:35
Clowns fail at being white, because they're artificially whitened. Albino's, however, are the real thing.
Lunatic Goofballs
07-10-2008, 01:38
Damn. It's true then. LG, and all other clowns, really are the whitest of us all. Guess we all know a truly white guy. And he has pie.

And a big nose. ;)
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:00
I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race.
German Nightmare
07-10-2008, 02:02
I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race.
You mean the human race?
The Cat-Tribe
07-10-2008, 02:03
I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race.

I like how either your reading comprehension completely fails or your intellectual honesty is nil.

BTW, I'm a proud ginger!! W00T!!
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:11
I like how either your reading comprehension completely fails or your intellectual honesty is nil.

BTW, I'm a proud ginger!! W00T!!

...

Whites are not a minority here.

In Asia, it's Asians who are racist, often towards Whites. Although the Asian culture is a bit less self-flagellating, so it's less of a concern.

I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

First we had The Atlantian Islands. Now we have The Atlantian Islands and friends. We better watch out, we wouldn't NSG want to be overrun by Stormfront-members who think this forum would make a nice piece of conquered territory.

That's just from the first page.
Ashmoria
07-10-2008, 02:13
...







That's just from the first page.
how do those quotes support your post?

"I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race."
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 02:13
...







That's just from the first page.

No one is saying what you think theyre saying.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:17
how do those quotes support your post?

"I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race."

...

Whites are not a minority here.

In Asia, it's Asians who are racist, often towards Whites. Although the Asian culture is a bit less self-flagellating, so it's less of a concern.

"It's ok to be racist against whites if they're the majority, and you can't be proud of your race if you're in the majority".

I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

"You don't even have a goddamn race, you're like vermin".

First we had The Atlantian Islands. Now we have The Atlantian Islands and friends. We better watch out, we wouldn't NSG want to be overrun by Stormfront-members who think this forum would make a nice piece of conquered territory.

"If you're proud of being white, you're a Nazi".


Read between the lines.
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 02:18
...



"It's ok to be racist against whites if they're the majority, and you can't be proud of your race if you're in the majority".



"You don't even have a goddamn race, you're like vermin".



"If you're proud of being white, you're a Nazi".


Read between the lines.
Holy shit. None of those are even close to what you said.

GTFO.
Ashmoria
07-10-2008, 02:19
...



"It's ok to be racist against whites if they're the majority, and you can't be proud of your race if you're in the majority".



"You don't even have a goddamn race, you're like vermin".



"If you're proud of being white, you're a Nazi".


Read between the lines.
i didnt see those things between the lines.

i saw that non whites can be racist and that not many "white" people here are so race identified that they are proud of an accident of birth.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 02:21
"You don't even have a goddamn race, you're like vermin".

I'm very curious how you got "vermin" out of that quote.
Neesika
07-10-2008, 02:21
Googly
You're
Googly
Stupid.
Eyes!


Don't understand? Read between the lines.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:23
I'm very curious how you got "vermin" out of that quote.

Well, that one was a stretch, but I still saw a dismissal of white people and their race. After all, isn't that just one step away from outright racism?
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 02:24
Well, that one was a stretch, but I still saw a dismissal of white people and their race. After all, isn't that just one step away from outright racism?



Again, none of these quotes say what you think they say.


GTFO.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 02:25
Well, that one was a stretch, but I still saw a dismissal of white people and their race. After all, isn't that just one step away from outright racism?

You saw it wrong, then. It was mockery of the term "white" being an inadequate adjective for people that aren't really white. Nothing more.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:26
Again, none of these quotes say what you think they say.


GTFO.

Wha? The last one immediately dismissed the OP as a NAZI for saying that he's proud of being white!
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 02:28
Wha? The last one immediately dismissed the OP as a NAZI for saying that he's proud of being white!

Thats not really what he was saying.

And this thread does border on "white power!!!"
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 02:29
Wha? The last one immediately dismissed the OP as a NAZI for saying that he's proud of being white!

Well, that's one thing the OP has in common with Neo-Nazis: pride for an accident of birth.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 02:29
Oh please. You didn`t notice that the lawyers you met looked like this!?

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/chandy0717/jew.gif

No, but my banker sure does.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 02:30
Well, that's one thing the OP has in common with Neo-Nazis: pride for an accident of birth.

:rolleyes: Sorry but being proud and happy to be apart of a community is entirely different.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 02:33
Thats not really what he was saying.

No, it really was.

And this thread does border on "white power!!!"

So? Good. If it was any other "power", you wouldn't be complaining.
Hammurab
07-10-2008, 02:42
No, it really was.



So? Good. If it was any other "power", you wouldn't be complaining.

Don't bother, Rusty, these multiCULTuralists will never realize the double standard invovled here.

I mean, when blacks or other minority groups seek solidarity as a means of achieving equitable treatment, that's no different then whites or some other majority engaging and colluding in institutionalized discrimination to prevent blacks from getting equitable treatment.

(.....waits.....)
New Kereptica
07-10-2008, 02:46
What do you call the Mongols then, the Ottoman Empire, the Chinese Empires, the Japanese Empire, the Egyptian Empire, the complete dominance of science and culture by the Arabs during the middle ages...

I call that ignorance!:D
South Lorenya
07-10-2008, 02:53
but... but I'm proud to be a Dragon!
Saint Jade IV
07-10-2008, 02:55
Well, that one was a stretch, but I still saw a dismissal of white people and their race. After all, isn't that just one step away from outright racism?

As a so-called white person, I often found that it was very dismissive of my cultural heritage, and that of my friends, which comes from Germany. I certainly don't wish to be homogenously identified with Bosnians, Croatians, French, Swiss, Italians, Norwegians, Serbians, Romanians, or any other group of people. My cultural heritage is something I like to be recognised, not because I am proud of it, but because it is a part of who I am, like my name, my gender, my hair colour and all the other parts that go into making up the person that is me.

It's the same as lumping all black people, whether they be Samoan, Maori, African American, African, Indian or Aboriginal in the same group and saying that their cultural heritage is the same. Or all Asians. Or all Arabs.
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 02:57
:rolleyes: Sorry but being proud and happy to be apart of a community is entirely different.
Even when the "community" does not exist?
Hammurab
07-10-2008, 02:59
As a so-called white person, I often found that it was very dismissive of my cultural heritage, and that of my friends, which comes from Germany. I certainly don't wish to be homogenously identified with Bosnians, Croatians, French, Swiss, Italians, Norwegians, Serbians, Romanians, or any other group of people. My cultural heritage is something I like to be recognised, not because I am proud of it, but because it is a part of who I am, like my name, my gender, my hair colour and all the other parts that go into making up the person that is me.

It's the same as lumping all black people, whether they be Samoan, Maori, African American, African, Indian or Aboriginal in the same group and saying that their cultural heritage is the same. Or all Asians. Or all Arabs.

For Christ sake, don't ever let anybody call you a Swiss without immediately responding with blinding, enraged, broken-bottle-across-the-eyes violence.

Those dirty watchmonkeys don't deserve to breath clean white air. They're nothing but cocoa-making mud people...we should herd them into camps, but they'd merely cut the fencewire with those stupid little scissors that pop out of their knives.

Fucking hate those people....
New Wallonochia
07-10-2008, 03:00
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists.

This already exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMT
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:01
Even when the "community" does not exist?

Hard to be proud of a community that doesn't exist. Or is that your point? I am talking about a community such as your town, your country, your sporting club.

This community that doesn't exist, is this referring to the 'white race', then we would have to redefine this community as those people who think their is a 'white race' and if they share similar culture, traits, feeling of togetherness then I suppose it would exist if they are linked together somehow.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:02
I like how everyone CONFIRMS everything the OP says by admitting that they think only whites can be racist and can't be proud of their race.
Please, show me where I have done this. Or anything like this.


I like how either your reading comprehension completely fails or your intellectual honesty is nil.

BTW, I'm a proud ginger!! W00T!!
Are you really? If you are, you've ruined the mental image I have of you.

No, it really was.



So? Good. If it was any other "power", you wouldn't be complaining.
No, actually, I think all the "power" movements are stupid. Except for electrons. That power movement is quite useful.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 03:03
:rolleyes: Sorry but being proud and happy to be apart of a community is entirely different.

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for white boys who whine about being picked on for being white. When white men stop controlling 99 percent of the wealth in America, I'll be more inclined to listen. But until that day, this type of "white pride" is nothing more than fascist, racist nonsense.
Neo Art
07-10-2008, 03:04
For Christ sake, don't ever let anybody call you a Swiss without immediately responding with blinding, enraged, broken-bottle-across-the-eyes violence.

Those dirty watchmonkeys don't deserve to breath clean white air. They're nothing but cocoa-making mud people...we should herd them into camps, but they'd merely cut the fencewire with those stupid little scissors that pop out of their knives.

Fucking hate those people....

there are only two things I can't stand. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Swiss.
New Kereptica
07-10-2008, 03:05
I really hope that you all are trolls, especially the majority of the last couple pages.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:09
Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for white boys who whine about being picked on for being white. When white men stop controlling 99 percent of the wealth in America, I'll be more inclined to listen. But until that day, this type of "white pride" is nothing more than fascist, racist nonsense.

Of course my post was not dealing exclusively with whites or even races. But nice to know that if a white boy was being beaten up because he was white, you wouldn't give a damn, hell you might even join in "Take that wanker other people like you control all the wealth"
Midlauthia
07-10-2008, 03:10
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.
Damn you're so fucking smart.

But yeah white pride, but no color hate amirite?
Midlauthia
07-10-2008, 03:13
This already exists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMT
Actually you're quite wrong, I know plenty of negroes who watch CMT. Now CNN, thats a different story.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 03:14
Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for white boys who whine about being picked on for being white. When white men stop controlling 99 percent of the wealth in America, I'll be more inclined to listen. But until that day, this type of "white pride" is nothing more than fascist, racist nonsense.

See, you're just going off on a completely unrelated tangent. How is it relevant who possesses America's wealth? Individuals control wealth, not races. If I'm attacked by racists because I'm white, it's ok because my race has more rich people than other races? Sorry, thinking that doesn't make you deep or liberal, it just makes you a wanker.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:17
Damn you're so fucking smart.

But yeah white pride, but no color hate amirite?

Why? What is so great about being white that you should be proud of it? Lack of melanin? An increased ability to produce vitamin D, but increased risk of skin cancer?

I'm happy with being white as much as I am happy being 6'2", having brownish/hazel eyes, brown hair, a penis, and every other happy little accident of genetics. I'm not proud of them, but I'm happy with them. Well okay, maybe proud of one of them, but that's it.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:18
Why? What is so great about being white that you should be proud of it? Lack of melanin? An increased ability to produce vitamin D, but increased risk of skin cancer?

I'm happy with being white as much as I am happy being 6'2", having brownish/hazel eyes, brown hair, a penis, and every other happy little accident of genetics. I'm not proud of them, but I'm happy with them. Well okay, maybe proud of one of them, but that's it.

Let me guess, the eyes?
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 03:19
Hard to be proud of a community that doesn't exist. Or is that your point? I am talking about a community such as your town, your country, your sporting club.
I am referring to the thread, which is not talking about that kind of community.

This community that doesn't exist, is this referring to the 'white race',
Yes.

then we would have to redefine this community as those people who think their is a 'white race'
Also known as racists.

and if they share similar culture, traits, feeling of togetherness then I suppose it would exist if they are linked together somehow.
Their whiteness is not a part of anything that would hold them together as a community, because white communities feel no solidarity with each other because of race. The history of Europe proves this. There is no such thing as "the white community", therefore to describe the OP's declaration that he's proud to be white as being proud to be a member of a community is nonsense. The only community that defines the race of its members as one of the common features that defines the group and holds it together, is the community of racists.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:19
Let me guess, the eyes?

*nods*
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 03:19
How is being white an accident of genetics? It's a deliberate evolutionary tactic designed to take in more vitamins from the sun in lower light climates.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 03:21
Of course my post was not dealing exclusively with whites or even races. But nice to know that if a white boy was being beaten up because he was white, you wouldn't give a damn, hell you might even join in "Take that wanker other people like you control all the wealth"

Whether or not individuals are attacked for being white is irrelevant. I'm talking about generalities. Whites are institutionally empowered in the United States and Europe. There is no systematic system of discrimination or racism against whites in these countries. The same cannot be said for minorities.

Like I said before, I have zero sympathy for the kind of nonsense posted in the OP. Only people teetering on the edge of the Stormfront crowd can manage to misinterpret reality that badly.
Ashmoria
07-10-2008, 03:21
this taking credit for the accomplishments of others because you share a skin tone is ridiculous.

as i said before, there is no reason to be ashamed of your skin color, you can surely LIKE your skin color but it makes no more sense to be PROUD of your skin color than it does to be proud of your hair color.

look at the accomplishments of brunettes! arent we the greatest?!
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:22
How is being white an accident of genetics? It's a deliberate evolutionary tactic designed to take in more vitamins from the sun in lower light climates.

nothing, and I mean nothing, is a deliberate evolutionary tactic. Evolution is not an intelligent process. It is based on random chance and survival of the fittest.

Evolution didn't say "Hey...when I lighten this species skin, they are less susceptable to vitamin D deficiency".

One ape randomly developed lighter skin, which gave him a competative advantage in northern latitudes.
Midlauthia
07-10-2008, 03:22
How is being white an accident of genetics? It's a deliberate evolutionary tactic designed to take in more vitamins from the sun in lower light climates.
Not to mention you can see each other at night...
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 03:23
Whites are institutionally empowered in the United States and Europe. There is no systematic system of discrimination or racism against whites in these countries. The same cannot be said for minorities.

Wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473249/English-girl-barred-Government-job--wrong-kind-white.html

Girl barred from job for being 'White English". That's even worse, they're going out of their way to discriminate against a specific subset of whites.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:23
this taking credit for the accomplishments of others because you share a skin tone is ridiculous.

as i said before, there is no reason to be ashamed of your skin color, you can surely LIKE your skin color but it makes no more sense to be PROUD of your skin color than it does to be proud of your hair color.

look at the accomplishments of brunettes! arent we the greatest?!
Why yes. Yes we are.

:)
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 03:24
nothing, and I mean nothing, is a deliberate evolutionary tactic. Evolution is not an intelligent process. It is based on random chance and survival of the fittest.

Evolution didn't say "Hey...when I lighten this species skin, they are less susceptable to vitamin D deficiency".

One ape randomly developed lighter skin, which gave him a competative advantage in northern latitudes.

.... You're not serious, are you? Evolution is about adapting to you're environment; the species that adapts survives. Whites didn't need sun protection in cold, dark Europe, but they did need vitamin D, so white skin developed. Blacks remained black because Africa has a lot more sun.

And besides, there were no apes involved. I don't think there were even ape-predecessors involved, when white skin was evolving, it was a species of homo that was present.
Magdha
07-10-2008, 03:25
(To the OP)

You're...white!? OMG! Congratulations!!!!! :eek:

Would you like a medal?

...or for us to worship at your feet? :hail:


Seriously, though. So you're white. Who cares?

1) People are people regardless of color.
2) Color isn't something you choose.
3) What color you are doesn't effect who you are as a person.

Which is why "white pride," "black pride," and every other racial "pride" is equally stupid.
Saint Jade IV
07-10-2008, 03:25
For Christ sake, don't ever let anybody call you a Swiss without immediately responding with blinding, enraged, broken-bottle-across-the-eyes violence.

Those dirty watchmonkeys don't deserve to breath clean white air. They're nothing but cocoa-making mud people...we should herd them into camps, but they'd merely cut the fencewire with those stupid little scissors that pop out of their knives.

Fucking hate those people....

I'm unsure how to respond to this...:confused:

I was merely trying to point out that white people are not a homogenised group and that there is much cultural diversity within that group and that many white people hesitate at being lumped in as a homogenised group.

I have never really understood the white pride movement. I don't understand what there is to be proud of about being born with a particular skin colour.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:27
I am referring to the thread, which is not talking about that kind of community.


Yes.


Also known as racists.


Their whiteness is not a part of anything that would hold them together as a community, because white communities feel no solidarity with each other because of race. The history of Europe proves this. There is no such thing as "the white community", therefore to describe the OP's declaration that he's proud to be white as being proud to be a member of a community is nonsense. The only community that defines the race of its members as one of the common features that defines the group and holds it together, is the community of racists.

Well quite true, which is why I was saying that this community doesn't exist as they are to spread out and don't have many things in common that makes a community. The KKK however is a community in many ways, they have a shared set of values, a culture, membership, stories, traditions etc. But fair enough, I was not suggesting that they are a community but the original post said something along the lines of being proud because of an accident of birth, which my response was off topic and I Should have waited for another thread.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 03:28
Of course my post was not dealing exclusively with whites or even races. But nice to know that if a white boy was being beaten up because he was white, you wouldn't give a damn, hell you might even join in "Take that wanker other people like you control all the wealth"

See, you're just going off on a completely unrelated tangent. How is it relevant who possesses America's wealth? Individuals control wealth, not races. If I'm attacked by racists because I'm white, it's ok because my race has more rich people than other races? Sorry, thinking that doesn't make you deep or liberal, it just makes you a wanker.

Hmm, strangely similar posting styles, making the exact same argument. And they even both called me a wanker...

Which one's the sock puppet?
Ashmoria
07-10-2008, 03:30
How is being white an accident of genetics? It's a deliberate evolutionary tactic designed to take in more vitamins from the sun in lower light climates.
its an "accident of genetics" because you did nothing to earn it. its the product of the mating of your parents.

so when you claim some right to be PROUD of your race because mozart was a great composer, for example, you are claiming a relationship that exists only by mental construct not because you have some actual connection to mozart.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:30
Why yes. Yes we are.

:)

I will second that.

*nods*

I thought so, hazel eyes are good
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 03:31
Wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473249/English-girl-barred-Government-job--wrong-kind-white.html

Girl barred from job for being 'White English". That's even worse, they're going out of their way to discriminate against a specific subset of whites.

One example of discrimination is not institutionalized discrimination. Come back when you don't fail.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 03:31
.... You're not serious, are you? Evolution is about adapting to you're environment; the species that adapts survives. Whites didn't need sun protection in cold, dark Europe, but they did need vitamin D, so white skin developed. Blacks remained black because Africa has a lot more sun.

And besides, there were no apes involved. I don't think there were even ape-predecessors involved, when white skin was evolving, it was a species of homo that was present.

The idea, though, is that no one made a conscious decision to be white, or black, or anything. You had no more to do with being white than I did. None of us chose to be whatever color, so why be proud of it like it's some sort of accomplishment?
SFRS
07-10-2008, 03:32
im not racist i hate everyone equally
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 03:32
Well quite true, which is why I was saying that this community doesn't exist as they are to spread out and don't have many things in common that makes a community. The KKK however is a community in many ways, they have a shared set of values, a culture, membership, stories, traditions etc. But fair enough, I was not suggesting that they are a community but the original post said something along the lines of being proud because of an accident of birth, which my response was off topic and I Should have waited for another thread.
I don't think you were so off topic. The OP did try to imply that white people are somehow all one big group who share the same values, etc. You and I agree that's nonsense.

As for groups like the KKK, sure, they could qualify as communities. But communities of racists. Their whiteness is not the common value that binds them together; it's their bigotry. So from that angle, too, the OP fails as well. The driving force behind "white pride" is not whiteness but racism.
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:34
.... You're not serious, are you? Evolution is about adapting to you're environment; the species that adapts survives. Whites didn't need sun protection in cold, dark Europe, but they did need vitamin D, so white skin developed. Blacks remained black because Africa has a lot more sun.

And besides, there were no apes involved. I don't think there were even ape-predecessors involved, when white skin was evolving, it was a species of homo that was present.

Yes, actually I am quite serious. It is why you don't see identical evolutionary measures in all humans (Yep, there are humans living in lower sun environments who still have darker skin...say, Asia, Australia, North and South America...and no, I don't mean Africans who moved there. I mean aboriginal groups.)

You seem to think that evolution plans what it will do. Or has some kind of driving force. The modifications of evolution are random. Selective pressures determine which will become dominant.

There is nothing intelligent or directed about evolution, as you made it seem.

And homo is one of the great ape species (from the family Hominidae). There are even some that argue that chimps and possibly even gorillas belong in the same genus (which is the Homo group that you mention).


additionally, it is an "accident of genetics", as I stated, because what you inheret from your parents is entirely random based on what sperm meets which egg. Add to that the randomness of why this guy impregnates this girl, and you have quite the accident of genetics. And precisely the reason why evolution cannot employ "tactics"
Saint Jade IV
07-10-2008, 03:40
this taking credit for the accomplishments of others because you share a skin tone is ridiculous.

as i said before, there is no reason to be ashamed of your skin color, you can surely LIKE your skin color but it makes no more sense to be PROUD of your skin color than it does to be proud of your hair color.

look at the accomplishments of brunettes! arent we the greatest?!

Exactly.
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 03:49
So? Good. If it was any other "power", you wouldn't be complaining.

Yes I would. Boy, for someone whos never met me, you sure know a lot about me.
The Atlantian islands
07-10-2008, 03:51
Yes, we all have you so wrong.

It's almost certain that you're not a member of stormfront, or a white power organisation, true.

You are a racist, however. Which you'll deny because that's an overly harsh term. No no, you're not racist, you are simply afraid for the future of your 'people' and their 'culture' and you think that 'racial/cultural mixing' is harmful.

Totally not racist. Something else. Softer. Nicer. Less disgusting.
I don't believe that all cultures are equal and I fight and will continue to fight to secure the survival of more advanced cultures and to allow them to shine into the future and repel the onslaught of backwards/inferior cultures/practices that are trying to douse the flame of enlightenment and freedom.

This is not so much about race as it is about ideas and cultures, which I've shown time and time again when I've opposed WHITE EUROPEAN Muslims from the Balkans coming to Switzerland and degrading the country. Nobody wanted to listen to that though, and simply ignored it with "the darkies"....:rolleyes:
Given The Atlantian Islands' outspoken ideas about Europe, I'm wondering in what part of the world he lives. And how old is the lad anyway? I just don't have all the pieces of the puzzle.
I'm an international student and I study between Europe and the US. I'm always back and forth between both.
He lives in the States.
Well, it depends on when you ask me....
The Atlantian islands
07-10-2008, 03:52
For Christ sake, don't ever let anybody call you a Swiss without immediately responding with blinding, enraged, broken-bottle-across-the-eyes violence.

Those dirty watchmonkeys don't deserve to breath clean white air. They're nothing but cocoa-making mud people...we should herd them into camps, but they'd merely cut the fencewire with those stupid little scissors that pop out of their knives.

Fucking hate those people....
What is your problem exactly with Swiss?
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 03:55
"What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to."-Hansell B. Duckett.
I agree completely. Is this really worth arguing over?
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:55
What is your problem exactly with Swiss?

They have holes in them?
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 03:55
"What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to."-Hansell B. Duckett.
I agree completely. Is this really worth arguing over?
No, but this is NSG. What else are we supposed to do?
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 03:57
What is your problem exactly with Swiss?

What is your problem, exactly, with Muslims?
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 03:57
No, but this is NSG. What else are we supposed to do?Make fun of politicians? :eek2:
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:58
I don't think you were so off topic. The OP did try to imply that white people are somehow all one big group who share the same values, etc. You and I agree that's nonsense.

As for groups like the KKK, sure, they could qualify as communities. But communities of racists. Their whiteness is not the common value that binds them together; it's their bigotry. So from that angle, too, the OP fails as well. The driving force behind "white pride" is not whiteness but racism.

Well that is true it isn't their whiteness that combines them, it is their shared ideals.

Question: Could "white pride" be used as a backlash against perceived injustice? When I say this I mean could people see the promotion of equality and everyone should be treated equally but then they see "black pride" parades or some companies having special job hiring programs where only a certain group of people based on the colour of their skin are allowed. And this is a way to say well if they are allowed to do this then so can we, of course when people say no you can't it further marginalises them and proves to them that they are right.
Vetalia
07-10-2008, 03:58
No blacks, no dogs, no Irish amirite?
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 03:59
Hmm, strangely similar posting styles, making the exact same argument. And they even both called me a wanker...

Which one's the sock puppet?

Why because we both used the term wanker?

Are you looking to start something mate?

And perhaps you should learn to read I never called you a wanker.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 04:03
Why because we both used the term wanker?

Are you looking to start something mate?

And perhaps you should learn to read I never called you a wanker.

If it involves clowns, mud and cream pies, then yes. If not, then no.

Honest mistake on the wanker part. But really, everything you and Ferrous Oxide have said have been eerily similar.
The Scandinvans
07-10-2008, 04:05
If it involves clowns, mud and cream pies, then yes. If not, then no.Arise all ye servants of LG.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 04:05
If it involves clowns, mud and cream pies, then yes. If not, then no.

Good I'm glad, just don't try and make something that isn't there.

Honest mistake on the wanker part. But really, everything you and Ferrous Oxide have said have been eerily similar.

Perhaps, but when you say well because you have money then it doesn't mater, if we both think that what you say is untrue then we will state similar responses. But I don't think everything we have said has been similar.
The Scandinvans
07-10-2008, 04:05
im not racist i hate everyone equallyEveryone is equally inferior to me.:p
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 04:06
Arise all ye servants of LG.I think my ugly stick is missing. *goes to find*
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 04:07
Arise all ye servants of LG.

He is the only man ever to be elected both Pope AND God. If anyone deserves blind obedience, that clown is the one.
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 04:09
Well that is true it isn't their whiteness that combines them, it is their shared ideals.

Question: Could "white pride" be used as a backlash against perceived injustice? When I say this I mean could people see the promotion of equality and everyone should be treated equally but then they see "black pride" parades or some companies having special job hiring programs where only a certain group of people based on the colour of their skin are allowed. And this is a way to say well if they are allowed to do this then so can we, of course when people say no you can't it further marginalises them and proves to them that they are right.
The OP attempted to use it in exactly that way. The argument is bogus. All you have to do is compare it to reality to see that. I have no interest in people "perceiving" that they are being picked on. I only care if they really are being picked on. A racist's "perception" that other people have privileges that he is jealous of does not make a valid argument about social conditions, when compared to the overwhelmingly white-dominated power structure of societies across Europe and North and South America, as well as colonial/former colonial regions in Africa and the Pacific regions.
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 04:12
He is the only man ever to be elected both Pope AND God. If anyone deserves blind obedience, that clown is the one."Why the hell do we have to pray for the Pope, anyway? If he, of all people, has trouble getting into heaven... What does that say about our chances?" /Carlos Mencia whose name is not really Carlos Mencia.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 04:13
The OP attempted to use it in exactly that way. The argument is bogus. All you have to do is compare it to reality to see that. I have no interest in people "perceiving" that they are being picked on. I only care if they really are being picked on. A racist's "perception" that other people have privileges that he is jealous of does not make a valid argument about social conditions, when compared to the overwhelmingly white-dominated power structure of societies across Europe and North and South America, as well as colonial/former colonial regions in Africa and the Pacific regions.

Yes I rather thought that was the general perception of the OP, but I will take that as a no, fair enough and thank you.
New Texoma Land
07-10-2008, 04:15
Given The Atlantian Islands' outspoken ideas about Europe, I'm wondering in what part of the world he lives. And how old is the lad anyway? I just don't have all the pieces of the puzzle.

Well, as I recall, he was 15 when he first joined NS. So he must be about 18-19 now. He also whined a lot about how bad southern California (where he had lived for may years) was because of all the "minorities" living there and how southern Florida (where he had just moved to) was almost as bad for the same reason.

God I spend way too much time lurking on this forum. :$
King Arthur the Great
07-10-2008, 04:17
Eh, I'm not one of those white guys that wants to go around with White History Month.

On the other hand, we're long overdue for the all-important history month that I believe we desperately need:

"Descent from Every Country in the British Isles, Polish, German and Scandinavian History Month". :D As the ultimate pinnacle of this month, it should ideally one day revolve around the accomplishments of myself, my brother, most of my cousins (one aunt married an Italian, so two of my cousins only get half-support) that will emerge in years to come. We could eventually name it after my grandparents, or just me. Or my brother, likely as he is to discover the cure for all types of cancer.

Anyways, I think that's an idea that we should all consider. You'll note that it's not a white-supremacist idea, and it celebrates truly great things that helped make America, well, America. We can even add in one day for the French, though we paid them back in both World Wars. We also skip the Italians (they have The Godfather and The Sopranos), the Austrians, the Hungarians, the Romanians, the Greeks, the Ukrainians, the Russians (Whiskey beats Vodka), the Slovenians, the Slovakians, the Czechs, the Macedonians, the Croats, the Herzegovinans, the Bosnians, the Serbs, and the Belorussians.

If I've left anybody from the rest of Europe out, it's because they don't come to mind, mostly due to the fact that I'm pretty sure I have no descent from them. And thus, I have no real reason to support them.

Honestly, I'd have much less of an issue with all of this if we stopped making it about race. Instead, let's go with nationalities and narrow ethnic descents. Black History Month will be removed, as will Hispanic History Month, and instead each nation gets one day. This way, everybody has a way of celebrating their ancestry, and I mean everybody. It's no longer based on skin color, instead, it's all based on traceable ancestry through birth records and intake reports going back "to the old country." No more racial divides, just recognition of the many nations that it took to build America.
The Atlantian islands
07-10-2008, 04:18
They have holes in them?
Touché.
What is your problem, exactly, with Muslims?
Islam as a religion and socio-political entity pushing itself on Europe and the West does not mesh with Western culture and beliefs which are a product of the European Enlightenment, the ideas from which are not present nor often legal and tolerated in Islamic belief.

There's tons more though, which begs me to ask the question:

How much time ya got?:p
Neesika
07-10-2008, 04:18
It's the new brand of racism. It's not about skin color any more. It's not about genetics, or eugenics, or belief that someone is inferior based on the appearance of their parents.

No, this new bigotry isn't about color, it's about "culture". No, they don't look you in the face and tell you how much blacks are inferior anymore. Now they take the softer approach, they speak not of people, but of nations. They use words that are hard to object to, like "community", "togetherness", "common bonds". But in the end the new dance is the same as the old dance. Not inferior races anymore, just inferior cultures. But just as it used to be "we don't want the mud people here anymore" it's become "we don't want their culture infecting our culture". the "we don't think you're bad PEOPLE, we just think your BELIEFS are bad, and your PRACTICES are bad, and your FAITH is bad, but we're not racist, we don't discriminate, just as long as you abandon every element that makes you you"

And in the end, just as the old racists believed that some races were superior, and it just happened to be theirs, the new bigots talk about superior and inferior cultures, and the superior ones are, of course, the ones they belong to.

All the while refusing to acknowledge that culture, just like race, is nothing more than a mish mash of other things, all rolled together to create what it is today, malleable, changeable, and, fundamentally, arbitrary.

edit: of course, the new bigots like to disguise it one step further sometimes. They might not even take the superior/inferior dichotomy. They might try to pretend that it's now how they think. They might talk in lofty terms and high goals, they might say to you "you like to be proud of your culture right? Well, I like to be proud of mine, don't you think I should be proud of mine, just like you're proud of yours? No, your culture isn't BAD, and you should KEEP your culture, so why don't you go over there, with other people like you, and I'll stay over here, with people like me, and that way MY culture doesn't get infec...I mean, changed by yours, and YOUR culture, which I totally respect, by the way, can also remain pure, just the way it is...over there, in your own country. Away from me"

I thought this was an excellent post.

I wondered if it could be applied to the instant case of TAI's 'soft racism'.

Let's see:

I don't believe that all cultures are equal and I fight and will continue to fight to secure the survival of more advanced cultures and to allow them to shine into the future and repel the onslaught of backwards/inferior cultures/practices that are trying to douse the flame of enlightenment and freedom.

This is not so much about race as it is about ideas and cultures, which I've shown time and time again when I've opposed WHITE EUROPEAN Muslims from the Balkans coming to Switzerland and degrading the country. Nobody wanted to listen to that though, and simply ignored it with "the darkies"....:rolleyes:


Not about skin colour...it's about culture!

Fucking nailed it right on the head. No wonder TAI ignored this post.
Anti-Social Darwinism
07-10-2008, 04:23
I know lots of pink people. Can't say I've ever met a white person, so I guess this entire rant is irrelevant.

My ex, he borders on being albino - he's a blue-eyed blond, skin the color of a trout's belly. The only flash of color on him is his bright red neck.
The Atlantian islands
07-10-2008, 04:27
Not about skin colour...it's about culture!

Fucking nailed it right on the head. No wonder TAI ignored this post.
I didn't ignore it, I just didn't read it to be honest. But here we go:

You can't compare it to "I hate ******s" for the simple fact that you can't choose to "be a ******" but you can however choose what you believe in. Thus, religions and cultural practices are a legit target for criticism and opposition. Leftists who say otherwise are trying to be "sensetive" and "politically correct", but fuck 'em, I say.

Neo Art is incorrect, because ideas, cultures and religions can be criticized and opposed because they are mental attitudes towards the world, unlike race.

If people like you and Neo Art disagree because you want to be sensetive and entertain the notion that "cultures/ideas are not good or bad, just different" that's your fault, but the world sees it differently.

Edit: Am I really not allowed to say ******s? What about Kikes, Faggots, Spics, Krauts, Wops, Queers, Porch Monkeys or Negroes?
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 04:32
My ex, he borders on being albino - he's a blue-eyed blond, skin the color of a trout's belly. The only flash of color on him is his bright red neck.I have never met an albino. Haven't met a white person at all, in fact.
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 04:36
I didn't ignore it, I just didn't read it to be honest. But here we go:

You can't compare it to "I hate ******s" for the simple fact that you can't choose to "be a ******" but you can however choose what you believe in. Thus, religions and cultural practices are a legit target for criticism and opposition. Leftists who say otherwise are trying to be "sensetive" and "politically correct", but fuck 'em, I say.
All you are doing here is supporting Neo Art's argument by inventing precisely the kinds of justifications his argument predicts. Can you guess what's missing from your statements that actually would suggest he is wrong about this?

Neo Art is incorrect, because ideas, cultures and religions can be criticized and opposed because they are mental attitudes towards the world, unlike race.
However, LIKE race, they can be the targets of bogus and dishonest arguments and attacks. Hint: That's a hint for the question above.

If people like you and Neo Art disagree because you want to be sensetive and entertain the notion that "cultures/ideas are not good or bad, just different" that's your fault, but the world sees it differently.
And this is an example of the kind of bogus and dishonest argument I mentioned above. You have zero evidence to indicate that your view is the world's view or that the world sees things differently from Neo Art and Neesika -- and me.

Edit: Am I really not allowed to say ******s? What about Kikes, Faggots, Spics, Krauts, Wops, Queers, Porch Monkeys or Negroes?
Are you having a good time, kid?
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 04:50
Are you having a good time, kid?

Apparently he is. I think we should just ignore him rather than keep encouraging his behavior.
Poliwanacraca
07-10-2008, 04:51
I have never met an albino. Haven't met a white person at all, in fact.

I've met a few albino people, including one of my good friends in high school. They're not "white" either - more pale pink, really. :tongue:
Neesika
07-10-2008, 04:54
Apparently he is. I think we should just ignore him rather than keep encouraging his behavior.

See, if you ignore him, he feels empowered, because you clearly can't refute his awesome logic, and thus fail.

If you debate him, he feels empowered, because he can twist your words a beautiful man-like shape, and then set fire to it, whilst gleefully capering about and rubbing his greasy hands on his torn stockings.

Either way, no matter what you do, TAI feels like he's won. That's because he is impervious to logic.
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 05:07
I've met a few albino people, including one of my good friends in high school. They're not "white" either - more pale pink, really. :tongue:OH. OK. :D

See, if you ignore him, he feels empowered, because you clearly can't refute his awesome logic, and thus fail.

If you debate him, he feels empowered, because he can twist your words a beautiful man-like shape, and then set fire to it, whilst gleefully capering about and rubbing his greasy hands on his torn stockings.

Either way, no matter what you do, TAI feels like he's won. That's because he is impervious to logic.I'm sensing much frustration here, or I'm just failing at life, as usual. :(
Muravyets
07-10-2008, 05:10
Apparently he is. I think we should just ignore him rather than keep encouraging his behavior.
I agree with Neesika:

See, if you ignore him, he feels empowered, because you clearly can't refute his awesome logic, and thus fail.

If you debate him, he feels empowered, because he can twist your words a beautiful man-like shape, and then set fire to it, whilst gleefully capering about and rubbing his greasy hands on his torn stockings.

Either way, no matter what you do, TAI feels like he's won. That's because he is impervious to logic.
To me, the point of responding to people like TAI is not to defeat him but to expose the real nature of his arguments for the benefit or amusement of others.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 05:13
Well, that position really is more fun in the long run. TAi can be so damn amusing at times
Andaluciae
07-10-2008, 05:18
It's because white people control the world, and as such, we give consolation prizes to the other groups. Duh.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 05:33
It's because white people control the world, and as such, we give consolation prizes to the other groups. Duh.

See, that's the misconception. White people control NOTHING. What do we make up, about 7% of the population? We have a small sausage factory in Zuerich and that's about it.
Intangelon
07-10-2008, 05:41
I have a friend that's a Slav, he calls himself olive. Not white, though I'm not quite sure that olive would be considered a race.

Don't tell that to the Greeks or Italians.

I'm proud to be human, we must take out our anger on the other inferior species of the world!

Isn't eating or wearing most of them enough?

moneylenders/bankers, doctors, and lawyers are all stereotypically Jewish.

Well, they were only moneylenders because in places like Renaissance-era Venice, that was one of the few professions in which Jews were allowed to engage. That's why they charged interest (read The Merchant of Venice closely sometime) -- with so few options for work, they had to make money somehow.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 05:43
I have a friend that's a Slav, he calls himself olive. Not white, though I'm not quite sure that olive would be considered a race.

I'm half-Slav, and I'm the whitest non-albino person on Earth.
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 05:46
See, that's the misconception. White people control NOTHING. What do we make up, about 7% of the population? We have a small sausage factory in Zuerich and that's about it.

What world do you live in where Whites arent in control?
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 05:48
What world do you live in where Whites arent in control?

The US is the only truly powerful country that can be considered "white", and even then, they have very large minorities.
Gauntleted Fist
07-10-2008, 05:48
What world do you live in where Whites arent in control?I think it's world thirty-seven. The one with the pixie-sticks.
UpwardThrust
07-10-2008, 05:50
Very interesting reading!
Perhaps we should get rid of the term 'racist'
all together and just live our lives...

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
And then there are just AMERICANS

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey', 'White Trash', 'White ****', 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, ******, Kike, Towel head, Sand-******, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ...You call me a RACIST.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
You have the NAACP. You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the
plain Chamber of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists? :mad:
You could not even be proud of your own race/skin Tone (whatever) without bringing up other races and being a bigot towards them

If you were not a troll I would ask you how the hell this is actual pride not just another attack
Soviestan
07-10-2008, 05:52
Oh dear
Saint Jade IV
07-10-2008, 05:52
It's because white people control the world, and as such, we give consolation prizes to the other groups. Duh.

:tongue: Oh, I get it now. The other people are just feeling left out of the loop.
Trotskylvania
07-10-2008, 06:17
The US is the only truly powerful country that can be considered "white", and even then, they have very large minorities.

The US controls 1/3 of the worlds wealth. 99 percent of that wealth is owned by its white population. Europe controls another third of the world's wealth, and again that wealth is controlled overwhelmingly by Europe's white population.

Whites still control large amounts of the wealth in many African and South American countries as well. So we're looking at at around 3/4's of the world's wealth controlled by white men. So the question is how many tons of crack are you smoking?
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 06:19
The US controls 1/3 of the worlds wealth. 99 percent of that wealth is owned by its white population. Europe controls another third of the world's wealth, and again that wealth is controlled overwhelmingly by Europe's white population.

Whites still control large amounts of the wealth in many African and South American countries as well. So we're looking at at around 3/4's of the world's wealth controlled by white men. So the question is how many tons of crack are you smoking?

Wealth doesn't determine power, military strength and population make a country power. And whites have none of that.
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 06:22
Wealth doesn't determine power, military strength and population make a country power. And whites have none of that.

What are you on?

Whites control the most powerful countries, and thus control those countries militaries.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 06:23
Wealth isn't power?
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 06:25
What ae you on?

Whites control the most powerful countries, and thus control those countries militaries.

And because whites are a minority in the entire world, it just goes to prove how superior they are because they have managed to gain almost absolute control. :wink:
Sarkhaan
07-10-2008, 06:29
Wealth doesn't determine power, military strength and population make a country power. And whites have none of that.

Whites don't have population?
Of the 15 most populous nations, 3 are "white" (USA, Russia, Germany)
Military power? I'd say the USA, UK, Germany, Russia, France, and Italy all rank pretty high.

And wealth determines almost everything about true power. Find me one world or regional power that isn't among the most wealthy in their given region. I'll take any point in history.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 06:35
And wealth determines almost everything about true power. Find me one world or regional power that isn't among the most wealthy in their given region. I'll take any point in history.

The Mongols. :)
German Nightmare
07-10-2008, 06:42
.... You're not serious, are you? Evolution is about adapting to you're environment; the species that adapts survives. Whites didn't need sun protection in cold, dark Europe, but they did need vitamin D, so white skin developed. Blacks remained black because Africa has a lot more sun.

And besides, there were no apes involved. I don't think there were even ape-predecessors involved, when white skin was evolving, it was a species of homo that was present.
No. That's simply wrong.

Evolution happens through chance mutations, and when the positive effect of said mutation outweighs its possible negative impact and the mutation is carried on to the offspring, certain characteristics may become predominant.

It has nothing to do with purposeful adaptation. You make it sound like an organism realizes what it needs, changes, and by that adapts. That's not how evolution works.

An organism mutates, and some of those mutations are more likely to be carried on. But there is no goal-oriented development there, it's pure chance.

And quit talking about different human races. There are no multiple races. There is only one, and we all belong to it.

So quit sporting such nonsense.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 06:48
Sorry, I find that hard to believe. So my descendants could evolve to be sexually attracted to fire? Have a big floppy dick hanging out of their forehead? Could fish evolve to just have lungs instead of gills, and then they'll just drown?

Give me a break. If that's the theory of evolution, no wonder all those Creationists think it's a load.
Knights of Liberty
07-10-2008, 06:49
Sorry, I find that hard to believe. So my descendants could evolve to be sexually attracted to fire? Have a big floppy dick hanging out of their forehead? Could fish evolve to just have lungs instead of gills, and then they'll just drown?

You have no understanding of evolution do you?

Probably about as much of an understanding as you do of the US Government, world politics, and race relations.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 06:50
Whites don't have population?
Of the 15 most populous nations, 3 are "white" (USA, Russia, Germany)
Military power? I'd say the USA, UK, Germany, Russia, France, and Italy all rank pretty high.

And wealth determines almost everything about true power. Find me one world or regional power that isn't among the most wealthy in their given region. I'll take any point in history.

Mongolia. Prussia. Huns.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 06:53
You have no understanding of evolution do you?

Probably about as much of an understanding as you do of the US Government, world politics, and race relations.

See, that's why evolution is just a theory. Because it's WRONG. It makes about as much sense as the Copenhagen Interpretation.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 06:54
Sorry, I find that hard to believe. So my descendants could evolve to be sexually attracted to fire? Have a big floppy dick hanging out of their forehead? Could fish evolve to just have lungs instead of gills, and then they'll just drown?

Give me a break. If that's the theory of evolution, no wonder all those Creationists think it's a load.

That's not the theory of evolution. Would there be any survival advantage to being sexually attracted to fire, having a big floppy dick hanging out of their forehead, or fish not having gills? No. In fact, any mutation of those variety would quickly be weeded out of the gene pool, because the specimens with those mutations would likely die very quickly.

Even though I get the sense that you understand this and are just being a troll, here's how evolution works. There is a species. A particular member, or members, of this species develop a trait through random mutation that turns out to aid in survival in their environment. Now that the members with this particular trait have an advantage to their not-so-lucky friends, they become more likely to survive than those not-so-lucky. They reproduce and pass along their trait, while the ones without it tend to die faster. This spreads the trait through the gene pool until the entire species more or less has it. This all takes place over millions and millions of years of evolution.
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 06:55
See, that's why evolution is just a theory. Because it's WRONG. It makes about as much sense as the Copenhagen Interpretation.

Only if you are being deliberately obtuse.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 06:58
Except it's pretty much just the Copenhagen Interpretation applied to biology. And the CI is ridiculous.
Kyronea
07-10-2008, 06:59
why in the world would you assume I was white?

On this entire forum I can count exactly one poster here who has seen me live and in person, it's not you.

Out of curiosity, are you?

Also, to the original poster: Congratulations on a trolling thread. :rolleyes:
German Nightmare
07-10-2008, 07:06
Sorry, I find that hard to believe. So my descendants could evolve to be sexually attracted to fire? Have a big floppy dick hanging out of their forehead? Could fish evolve to just have lungs instead of gills, and then they'll just drown?

Give me a break. If that's the theory of evolution, no wonder all those Creationists think it's a load.
Which part of "quit sporting such nonsense" didn't you understand?

Should you really be that ignorant about the topic, go leave it alone and educate yourself before trying to use it to prove your points (if you should have any).

If your descendants would be sexually attracted to fire, chances are they won't have any offspring themselves - thus this mutation didn't work out for them and would leave them in a dead-end. Happens all the time.

Then, the human body cannot mutate so much as to physically create dickheads. That seems to be a cultural or intellectual development. It has nothing to do with evolution. Maybe with understanding its concept, though. I let you be the judge on that one.

And believe it or not, fish did indeed develop lungs. Like those belonging to Dipnoi. They will indeed drown when they cannot surface to breathe, for their gills are mainly used to give off CO2, not for taking in O2. And those fellows have been around for about 400 million years.

So, if you cannot grasp that evolution takes place over time, dude, you're beyond help.
Ferrous Oxide
07-10-2008, 07:10
Which part of "quit sporting such nonsense" didn't you understand?

Should you really be that ignorant about the topic, go leave it alone and educate yourself before trying to use it to prove your points (if you should have any).

If your descendants would be sexually attracted to fire, chances are they won't have any offspring themselves - thus this mutation didn't work out for them and would leave them in a dead-end. Happens all the time.

Then, the human body cannot mutate so much as to physically create dickheads. That seems to be a cultural or intellectual development. It has nothing to do with evolution. Maybe with understanding its concept, though. I let you be the judge on that one.

And believe it or not, fish did indeed develop lungs. Like those belonging to Dipnoi. They will indeed drown when they cannot surface to breathe, for their gills are mainly used to give off CO2, not for taking in O2. And those fellows have been around for about 400 million years.

So, if you cannot grasp that evolution takes place over time, dude, you're beyond help.

See, again, you're telling me that anything can happen. That's just the Copenhagen Interpretation, applied to biology.

Ahh screw it, I'll just wipe evolution from my mind, it's easier to know nothing about it.
Vetalia
07-10-2008, 07:10
Mongolia. Prussia. Huns.

The Mongols and Prussians were quite wealthy, and the Mongols in particular deserve credit for creating one of the largest and safest trade networks in the entire world during their Empire's reign. I mean, the amounts of wealth channeled through Mongol territory were truly staggering when you consider most major trade between Asia and Europe traveled overland at the time.

Prussia was one of Europe's foremost industrial and scientific powers, and by the time of the German Empire that territory was a rival to the United States and more than a formidable challenge to the industrial might of the United Kingdom.

The Huns...I don't know enough about them to really say anything either way.
Blouman Empire
07-10-2008, 07:12
Then, the human body cannot mutate so much as to physically create dickheads.

I beg to differ, you mean you haven't come across one before?
Sdaeriji
07-10-2008, 07:18
The Mongols and Prussians were quite wealthy, and the Mongols in particular deserve credit for creating one of the largest and safest trade networks in the entire world during their Empire's reign. I mean, the amounts of wealth channeled through Mongol territory were truly staggering when you consider most major trade between Asia and Europe traveled overland at the time.

The Mongols did not control most of that wealth that passed through their lands, however. The Mongols did create one of the largest and safest trade networks in history, but the wealth primarily stayed in the hands of the wealthy nations that they conquered or vassalized. That wealth travelled through their empire, from China to Europe and the Middle East, but very little of it found its way to Karakorum. Other than the tribute they forced their defeated enemies to pay, the Mongols controlled very little of the wealth in their empire.
German Nightmare
07-10-2008, 07:21
See, again, you're telling me that anything can happen. That's just the Copenhagen Interpretation, applied to biology.
Anything can happen along a straight line from organism A via mutation to organism B - as long as the traits that the mutation brings with it are favorable for survival. If they're not, that's it - dead-end.

Simply slapping the label of an interpretation of quantum mechanics on a non-related subject doesn't really help.
Ahh screw it, I'll just wipe evolution from my mind, it's easier to know nothing about it.
You can be completely ignorant of evolution - evolution, however, is definitely not ignorant of you.