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Yeah I would probably give you a second look if single of course. ;)

Edit: Something tells me you are the take charge type in bed. This is the real reason you like nerds. They don't ask questions they just do as you say.

Ha Ha! Nice. i like your work.
Well, i wont say yes, but i wont say no.
Lets leave it to the imagination shall we?

I g2g to an interview now!

Ta Ta :)

I <3 my geek. He once tried to save me in DnD even though it almost killed his character. :)
That's sweet.

:)
That's sweet.

It really was. I was all being chaotic evil and he really didn't need me and I totally opened a door I shouldn't have and... well, he tried to save me and almost got eaten by a dragon. :(

It really was. I was all being chaotic evil and he really didn't need me and I totally opened a door I shouldn't have and... well, he tried to save me and almost got eaten by a dragon. :(
Smunk being chaotic evil? :eek:
I'm either lawful good or chaotic neutral (although chaotic good is fun if you have the right DM). I really can't commit to evil often enough to make it worthwhile for anyone else.
BTW - if wifey and i were to have a girl, we're using the name Ardra. :D

'In case of an incounter with opposite sex, LOL nervously, tell them you have to LFG and shrug if they don't have anything to auction to you.'

Posted my photo /\ like you requested. Judge away! :D

I'd bang you. And I rolled a natural 15 with a +3 modifier for a charisma check of 18, so you'd probably bang me, too.

Smunk being chaotic evil? :eek:
It's not fun unless you are completely out of character. I am a very lawful and normally pretty nuetral/good person IRL. Playing chaotic evil is cathartic and hilarious and entertaining and fun.
I'm either lawful good or chaotic neutral (although chaotic good is fun if you have the right DM). I really can't commit to evil often enough to make it worthwhile for anyone else.
Hubby is always lawful good, which might explain him trying to save me... but I tend to focus on the romance of nearly being saved from death.
BTW - if wifey and i were to have a girl, we're using the name Ardra. :D
nice. :cool: My kid likes to write everything backwards, so that would work out well for your daughter.

It's not fun unless you are completely out of character. I am a very lawful and normally pretty nuetral/good person IRL. Playing chaotic evil is cathartic and hilarious and entertaining and fun. Well, i *always* drift towards the "chaotic" part, as such i never can really be completely out of character - i just find the best stuff happens when the DM forces some part of my brain to react in a way i couldn't have expected, and it pretty much makes it worthwhile. Indeed, it's extremely taxing on the DM since there's almost no way to anticipate what i might do .... but when they can adapt, it's rocks. :)

Hubby is always lawful good, which might explain him trying to save me... but I tend to focus on the romance of nearly being saved from death.This reminds me of Xandir from the first episodes of Drawn Together. :eek:

nice. :cool: My kid likes to write everything backwards, so that would work out well for your daughter.Well, i might focus on palindromes and the like for them ... kinda like Weird Al's "BoB" :D

Do nerds have sex like the regular folk?

Yes, just with more corny, nerd phrases.

I manage to have a favorite DnD character of every alignment but am often CALLED upon to play the Paladin.


I am a nerd, a geek, a dweeb, whichever you prefer and I proudly admit it. I also proudly admit the fact that 90% of my ex-girlfreinds ave tried in some way to get back with me :D

Yes, just with more corny, nerd phrases.

I lol'd.

I'd bang you. And I rolled a natural 15 with a +3 modifier for a charisma check of 18, so you'd probably bang me, too.

Ha Ha. I dont quite know what to say to that. :D

Ha Ha. I dont quite know what to say to that. :D

I think that depends on several things:
Are you single?
Are you over 18 years of age?
And what are your Cha and Int scores?

I think that depends on several things:
Are you single?
Are you over 18 years of age?
And what are your Cha and Int scores?

Ha Ha.
No but im a big flirt.
Yes.
And i don't know what Cha and Int are. I said iwas a nerd. Not a geek. :)
I do play WOW however. Does that count?

Ha Ha.
No but im a big flirt.
Yes.
And i don't know what Cha and Int are. I said iwas a nerd. Not a geek. :)
I do play WOW however. Does that count?

I suppose it counts.

You and Nanatsu would get along, I think. Or else hate each other. Because you both want me so much.

I suppose it counts.

You and Nanatsu would get along, I think. Or else hate each other. Because you both want me so much.

Oh do we now? And on what grounds do you support this information?

Oh do we now? And on what grounds do you support this information?

The grounds on which tread his inflated ego.

My kids are named after Star Trek characters

Hee, I don't think I actually remember you saying that before. So, who's more geeky - the mother who gives both her children names from a highly geeky source, or the daughter of such a mother? ;)

I suppose it counts.

You and Nanatsu would get along, I think. Or else hate each other. Because you both want me so much.

Nanatsu would go all emo and Plum would probably beat her over the head with Nanatsu's camera.




This above post is in good harmless humor.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets. However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.So, as a turbo history talking to a geeket/nerdet of some other type, do you at least play, or haved played, D&D?

Hee, I don't think I actually remember you saying that before. So, who's more geeky - the mother who gives both her children names from a highly geeky source, or the daughter of such a mother? ;)

Between you and I, you probably win on geekiness, I have a few mitigating circumstances. My children are in fact named after Star Trek characters, they are upset because one of their characters ranks higher than the other's does.

Between you and I, you probably win on geekiness, I have a few mitigating circumstances. My children are in fact named after Star Trek characters, they are upset because one of their characters ranks higher than the other's does.

Hahahaha. The Smunklings are so awesome.

Between you and I, you probably win on geekiness, I have a few mitigating circumstances. My children are in fact named after Star Trek characters, they are upset because one of their characters ranks higher than the other's does.

I think I was named after a dog, so I envy your children.

Nanatsu would go all emo and Plum would probably beat her over the head with Nanatsu's camera.

This above post is in good harmless humor.

Oo, catfight.

Oh do we now? And on what grounds do you support this information?

Charisma check of 18.

The grounds on which tread his inflated ego.

I'm a he? And anyways, my ego does not tread on ground: it orbits around it, as my ego is far too large to tread.

Between you and I, you probably win on geekiness, I have a few mitigating circumstances. My children are in fact named after Star Trek characters, they are upset because one of their characters ranks higher than the other's does.

What are their names?

Worf and Data.

:D

not really.

Voyager was in it's last season when I was pregnant with the oldest, they are both named from characters in that series.

Mmm... "Kes" wouldn't be too weird a name there for a girl. It would be cute. ^_^

What are their names?

Worf and Data.

:D

not really.

Voyager was in it's last season when I was pregnant with the oldest, they are both named from characters in that series.

Mmm... "Kes" wouldn't be too weird a name there for a girl. It would be cute. ^_^

I think 7 of 9 is better.

Also, for a boy:
Doctor.

Also, for a boy:
Doctor.

I wonder what his profession would be...

Mmm... "Kes" wouldn't be too weird a name there for a girl. It would be cute. ^_^

I hated Kes. My husband had a crush on her.

I hated Kes. My husband had a crush on her.

Well, that's because Kes herself was cute. :p

Well, that's because Kes herself was cute. :p

I did a little dance when she left. I truly did.

I hated her nearly as much as Wesley. Seriously.

I did a little dance when she left. I truly did.

I hated her nearly as much as Wesley. Seriously.

Did you hate her due to the character or due to the crush? o_O

I didn't particularly see her as useful to the plot, she seemed pretty one dimensional. I liked Seven better.

Meh, I have a liking for the small and cute... :p

Did you hate her due to the character or due to the crush? o_O
I didn't particularly see her as useful to the plot, she seemed pretty one dimensional. I liked Seven better.

I didn't particularly see her as useful to the plot, she seemed pretty one dimensional. I liked Seven better.

So your husband had a crush on Kes, but not Seven? I mean...it's Jeri Ryan.

So your husband had a crush on Kes, but not Seven? I mean...it's Jeri Ryan.

She was too fake and plastic for him. He doesn't appreciate that.

She was too fake and plastic for him. He doesn't appreciate that.

Well, she WAS a cyborg... :p

At any rate, Kes makes me feel like protecting her. :p

She was too fake and plastic for him. He doesn't appreciate that.

Fair enough. Now, I'm not into fake and plastic either, but for some reason I find Jeri Ryan hottest as Seven, as opposed to her other roles.

Well, she WAS a cyborg... :p

At any rate, Kes makes me feel like protecting her. :p

Yeah, you have to realize I'm like 5 feet tall. My husband likes short girls.....he's over a foot taller than me.

Yeah, you have to realize I'm like 5 feet tall. My husband likes short girls.....he's over a foot taller than me.

So do I. :D

A girl I can protect, or take a bullet for... :D

So..... what was this thread about again?

How geeks and nerds are totally worth banging. We're demonstrating why. I think.

Oh.

Question: What happens to geeks and nerds who don't get a woman?
Answer: They become pedophiles.

Question: What happens to geeks and nerds who don't get a woman?
Answer: They become pedophiles.

Question: Was that trolling, prejudice-mongering or merely a very inane and pointless post?

Answer: Yes.

The grounds on which tread his inflated ego.

Ha.

Oo, catfight.



Charisma check of 18.



I'm a he? And anyways, my ego does not tread on ground: it orbits around it, as my ego is far too large to tread.

Ha Ha. Kapow.

Nanatsu would go all emo and Plum would probably beat her over the head with Nanatsu's camera.




This above post is in good harmless humor.


Violence is always the answer. Rememeber that kidies.

Question: Was that trolling, prejudice-mongering or merely a very inane and pointless post?

Answer: Yes.
I was merely pointing out what happens sometimes. *shrugs*

I was merely pointing out what happens sometimes. *shrugs*

If you had meant "sometimes" you'd have said "sometimes".

Question: What happens to geeks and nerds who don't get a woman?
Answer: They become pedophiles.

What happens to people who aren't geeks and nerds and who don't get women?

No really. I'm asking you.

I think I was named after a dog, so I envy your children.Indiana?

So your husband had a crush on Kes, but not Seven? I mean...it's Jeri Ryan.
Had to be potential vs. kinetic sex appeal. I would've had to agree with him. Not a crush, but a strong appreciation.
But if i were gonna munch on any of the ST ladies, it would've had to have been in TOS days with a little DS9 and a smidge of TNG. TOS first.

What happens to people who aren't geeks and nerds and who don't get women?

No really. I'm asking you.

You tell me. Has anything happened to you yet?

Question: What happens to geeks and nerds who don't get a woman?
Answer: They become pedophiles.



A bit misinformed about this particular brand of criminal. The reason for these people is not the reason you stated. If it came down to it there are escort services and prostitutes out in this world.

You tell me. Has anything happened to you yet?

I'm a geek. Who has had women. So I have no idea what will happen. But apparently I won't become a pedophile, which is good.

I'm a geek. Who has had women. So I have no idea what will happen. But apparently I won't become a pedophile, which is good.

Says you. :p

Says you. :p

I do. I would tell you to find a girl named Michelle to corroborate my story, but she's psychotic and hates me for no apparent reason. Also crazy horny.

I do. I would tell you to find a girl named Michelle to corroborate my story, but she's psychotic and hates me for no apparent reason. Also crazy horny.

funny... Michelle said the same thing about you. :p

funny... Michelle said the same thing about you. :p

Ask her about the syphilis.

Ask her about the syphilis.

mmmm syphilis.

What happens to people who aren't geeks and nerds and who don't get women?

No really. I'm asking you.
They become senile old men real fast. my housemate is living proof.

They become senile old men real fast. my housemate is living proof.

Ah. I figured you would know.

mmmm syphilis.

Tasty.

Tasty.

Not as good as Herpes mind.

Not as good as Herpes mind.

Love comes and goes, but herpes is forever.

Love comes and goes, but herpes is forever.

Ah, so true, so true. You are very wise.

Really Pluto. I can't believe you fell for that.

Ah, so true, so true. You are very wise.

As it happens, I know everything.


I'm a god.




The God of Spam.

Really Pluto. I can't believe you fell for that.
Huh? :confused:

Huh? :confused:
The "What happens to geeks who..." question. Just think about it, dear.

The "What happens to geeks who..." question. Just think about it, dear.
Sowwy. :(

(you have a telegram)

...why?

Because, I have found from personal experience that hotness is determined by one's looks. For males (who are more likely to be geeks/nerds), hotness tends to be determined by the size of their muscles. Geeks/nerds tend not to have gigantic biceps, now do they?

Apparently, I'm not anyone. Interesting.

How are you not anyone?

Well, I can't speak for who gets "the" action but I know who's gotten my action...

There are always exceptions to every rule, but generally, it is the smooth dude that gets the action. The geek/nerd doesn't get the action and has to spend another weekend stuck on NSG.

I am so confused by this idea that geekiness precludes hotness, or, for that matter, that the latter trumps the former.

Well, from my observations, as I said above, male hotness is determined by the amount of muscles they have. Geeks/nerds tend not to have big biceps.

At least three of my female friends own "I <3 MY GEEK" t-shirts. As, for that matter, do at least two of my male friends. Why on earth would that destroy their social standing? I was always proud as heck to be seen out and about with my ex-geekyboys.

It again depends on a female's relative hotness. Over the years, I have observed that the hottest females tend to not even associate with geeks/nerds and if they are caught, their social standing is reduced in the eyes of their "hot peers." The next stage down on the hotness scale, it doesn't matter that much - it would be akin to a nobleman going out with a peasant in mediaeval times.

..............ahahahahahahahaha. You're funny.

I am being serious. The hottest females, because they are the most desirable, have the selection of every single man in the human race, and they tend to go for ones with the largest muscles (or I will grant, the largest bank balances, which can act in lieu of muscles). You notice that All Blacks, Wallabies, Springboks, and other sport players in very physical sports, tend to be in the arms of the best looking women.

You could not be more wrong. Really, really, really, really. Really. REALLY.

From my own observations, I am not wrong. Perhaps it hasn't happened in your area, and that it is an exception to the rule. However, it is muscle size = hotness (for males), not the level of intelligence.

...and everyone defines hotness different ways, you know. My ex was not what most people would consider a typical studmuffin - he was, among other things, about 5'6'', pale as a snowdrift, with Austin Powers chest hair and spindly chicken legs. I could not be in the room with him while he was playing the piano without wanting to tear his clothes off and do assorted X-rated things to him. :p

Some people define hotness differently, but unfortunately, the majority of people view it in the same way. For a female, it is one set of rules; for a male, it is another set of rules. I have taken a look at thousands of pairs of people over the last eighteen months; and they almost all share one thing in common, the hot females are with the hot males, and the un-hot females are with the un-hot males.

As it happens, I know everything.


I'm a god.




The God of Spam.

The Spam God! As in Spam the meat? : an extiting mixture of Spice/Ham?!
or as in Spam...uh...nonsense on the internet?

I do. I would tell you to find a girl named Michelle to corroborate my story, but she's psychotic and hates me for no apparent reason. Also crazy horny.

Wait, I have a feeling we know the same Michelle...

The God of Spam.

I must have missed that election...

I must have missed that election...

I'm self appointed.

Wait, I have a feeling we know the same Michelle...

Is she horrible at pleasing another person?

The Spam God! As in Spam the meat? : an extiting mixture of Spice/Ham?!
or as in Spam...uh...nonsense on the internet?

Both. Also viagra and natural breast enlargement.

I'm self appointed.



Is she horrible at pleasing another person?



Both. Also viagra and natural breast enlargement.


Wow! *looks on in awe*

I do. I would tell you to find a girl named Michelle to corroborate my story, but she's psychotic and hates me for no apparent reason. Also crazy horny.

No no no... you misunderstand me... I'm saying "says you" to the fact that not being a pedophile is a good thing. Because I might disagree.;)

Because, I have found from personal experience that hotness is determined by one's looks. For males (who are more likely to be geeks/nerds), hotness tends to be determined by the size of their muscles. Geeks/nerds tend not to have gigantic biceps, now do they?



How are you not anyone?



There are always exceptions to every rule, but generally, it is the smooth dude that gets the action. The geek/nerd doesn't get the action and has to spend another weekend stuck on NSG.



Well, from my observations, as I said above, male hotness is determined by the amount of muscles they have. Geeks/nerds tend not to have big biceps.



It again depends on a female's relative hotness. Over the years, I have observed that the hottest females tend to not even associate with geeks/nerds and if they are caught, their social standing is reduced in the eyes of their "hot peers." The next stage down on the hotness scale, it doesn't matter that much - it would be akin to a nobleman going out with a peasant in mediaeval times.



I am being serious. The hottest females, because they are the most desirable, have the selection of every single man in the human race, and they tend to go for ones with the largest muscles (or I will grant, the largest bank balances, which can act in lieu of muscles). You notice that All Blacks, Wallabies, Springboks, and other sport players in very physical sports, tend to be in the arms of the best looking women.



From my own observations, I am not wrong. Perhaps it hasn't happened in your area, and that it is an exception to the rule. However, it is muscle size = hotness (for males), not the level of intelligence.



Some people define hotness differently, but unfortunately, the majority of people view it in the same way. For a female, it is one set of rules; for a male, it is another set of rules. I have taken a look at thousands of pairs of people over the last eighteen months; and they almost all share one thing in common, the hot females are with the hot males, and the un-hot females are with the un-hot males.

You have a very...interesting...view on human sexuality. Yeah. Interesting.

(And, for the record, guys with bulging muscles are gross.)

During the Renaissance, being pale and mildly overweight were considered attractive features because it signified that one was not a commoner who worked hard hours all day.

There is nothing stopping nerds from being muscular. Hell, I know one nerd with a degree in exercise science, and another who is a personal trainer. One still plays D&D with us regularly and another plays Warhammer 40k and Risk with us quite often.

Orrite I thought that said "Greeks and Nerds" XD

You have a very...interesting...view on human sexuality. Yeah. Interesting.

(And, for the record, guys with bulging muscles are gross.)

he does seem to be a bit off on his understanding of what makes a guy hot (to women).

well-built guys are hot. if they are also good looking. and reasonably tall.

short ugly guys with bulging muscles are creepy.

musicians are hot.

misunderstood bad boys are hot.

guys with great cars and a good sense of style are hot.

lots of other kinds of guys are hot. big muscles are seldom part of it.

Between my geeky husband and his geeky friends your list fails.


Bars are the only place you can still smoke here. Not being able to breathe turns me off to a lot of things.


People with low IQ tend to piss me off. Therefore I don't like to be around them. I'm an elitist. I know this. I have my Mensa membership card to prove it.


movies
bowling
boating
skating
star gazing
visit friends
film festival
Con
dinner out
If you can't figure out anything to do on a night out that doesn't involve getting drunk....you are the boring one.
So maybe we are geeks, too. After we were dating for a while, my wife-then-girlfriend, noticed a cardboard tube in the middle of the kitchen. When she asked what that was, I told her it would be a telescope just as soon as I could find time to finish grinding the lenses and painting the thing black. She told me she knew how to paint and would be happy to help if that would get it ready to use faster... I think that was when figured out she was a keeper.

We've spent a few nights since then with the telescope and five or six friends out in the middle of a field, doing astronomy. Then we hit Waffle House for breakfast.

he does seem to be a bit off on his understanding of what makes a guy hot (to women).

well-built guys are hot. if they are also good looking. and reasonably tall.

short ugly guys with bulging muscles are creepy.

musicians are hot.

misunderstood bad boys are hot.

guys with great cars and a good sense of style are hot.

lots of other kinds of guys are hot. big muscles are seldom part of it.

I think there is a lot of misconception out there on what women consider attractive. Guys tend to think it is the same way as themselves which is entirely untrue. Guys tend to go for the looks aspect as the defining characteristic of hotness. Women don't seem to make that the central part of looking for a mate. They tend to take in many aspects of a man on not focus to much on one part. Which is good if you ask me. That is probably the right way to go about it.

I think there is a lot of misconception out there on what women consider attractive. Guys tend to think it is the same way as themselves which is entirely untrue. Guys tend to go for the looks aspect as the defining characteristic of hotness. Women don't seem to make that the central part of looking for a mate. They tend to take in many aspects of a man on not focus to much on one part. Which is good if you ask me. That is probably the right way to go about it.
I think looks matter in a different way, I think girls don't look for "hotness" but rather if the physique of the man proves he takes proper care of himself. I don't blaim girls for doing that, the first impression matters, and ofcourse there has to be a reason to even meet up with a man. I really need to work out, i'm getting chubby.

I think there is a lot of misconception out there on what women consider attractive. Guys tend to think it is the same way as themselves which is entirely untrue. Guys tend to go for the looks aspect as the defining characteristic of hotness. Women don't seem to make that the central part of looking for a mate. They tend to take in many aspects of a man on not focus to much on one part. Which is good if you ask me. That is probably the right way to go about it.

being hot is not the same as being good mate material.

i think cowboys are extremely hot but i wouldnt consider marrying one.

few geeks are hot but many are great husband material.

being hot is not the same as being good mate material.

i think cowboys are extremely hot but i wouldnt consider marrying one.

few geeks are hot but many are great husband material.

I'll give you that. However I was going the mate angle only.

Wow! *looks on in awe*

I have that effect.

No no no... you misunderstand me... I'm saying "says you" to the fact that not being a pedophile is a good thing. Because I might disagree.;)

Various law enforcement agencies would agree with me, so I would say that's a point in my favor.

As I have said before, everyone desires to get the "hottest" person of the other gender possible. Of course, that means that geeks/nerds will be left with the lowest common denominator
untrue.

Do females really want the whole world to know that some geek/nerd loves them? Being honest, it destroys a females social standing, and some people like to keep their relationships discrete, so they wouldn't be too keen.

Some of us would rather be in a relationship with a compatable mate than worry about some arbitrary "social standing" among people obviously too shallow to worry about.


Intelligence =/= Hotness; I have learnt that through years of experience
Beauty fades but dumb is forever, so says Judge Judy arbiter of all things widsomdy and such.
Maybe intelligence isn't worthwhile to the average, but for some of us... idiocy is just unfathomable torture. I like my pale geeky guy because I can have intelligent conversation with him, and he gets my jokes.


WTF! I have heard plenty of anecdotes that females prefer experienced guys to virgins. Case closed
Case reopened. I've heard ninety-four more anecdotes that say otherwise. I win.


I would suggest that nerds/geeks are going to be more possessive than a normal guy with more choices.
Nerds/Geeks have the same amount of choices, they are likely to be more discerning though, considering they think with their brain at least 30% of the time.

You can pick up a newspaper, use Wikipedia, et cetera to find out about stuff. Of course, if you want intelligent conversation, there are many ways and means to get it. You don't need a geek/nerd to get it
I don't often want to talk to a newspaper.



I am sorry, but that line reeks of bull dung. Everyone cares about the hotness of their potential mate. The geek cares just as much as the jock, but I would say that the geek doesn't show it.
Hotness to me, hasn't much to do with the physical exterior. Yes I like that my geek is teh hawt, but it doesn't really have anything to do with how he looks.

I'll give you that. However I was going the mate angle only.

what one wants in a spouse is a whole nother consideration eh?

"misunderstood bad boy" is a very bad choice. "geeky genius" is someone to consider.

Are you guys debating about who's the hottest, using your own perspectives while expecting the other people to agree with you?
'husband material' ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, now that's scary.
some other stuff about whether looks or kindness work, usually the better looking guys will get the girls, because the less good-looking ones are more likely to have lower confidence.

I have that effect.



Various law enforcement agencies would agree with me, so I would say that's a point in my favor.

Not if you live in Turkmenistan.;)
(and by you, I mean me)

Not if you live in Turkmenistan.;)
(and by you, I mean me)

you live in turkmenistan?!

I'd just like to remind everyone that we don't much like discussions about paedophilia and don't tolerate ones that advocate it at all.

So let's get back on topic about nerds and such, shall we?

I'd just like to remind everyone that we don't much like discussions about paedophilia and don't tolerate ones that advocate it at all.

So let's get back on topic about nerds and such, shall we?

uh, i don't recall seeing anyone talking about that sort of thing. i'm confused.

uh, i don't recall seeing anyone talking about that sort of thing. i'm confused.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13752573&postcount=329

Let. This. Thread. Die.

Let. This. Thread. Die.

You just bumped it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13752573&postcount=329

ah, now i understand.
of course geeks and nerds are worth it, i mean haven't you seen that shampoo advert for uh what's it called again? anyway it says you're worth it, and if it says it to everyone then everyone is worth it.
what the worth is, is a little bit harder to find.

You have a very...interesting...view on human sexuality. Yeah. Interesting.

(And, for the record, guys with bulging muscles are gross.)

Interesting view, but one that has been reinforced by my own observations of people. Also, for the record, I personally do agree that people with muscles that show their veins as well (the ones you find in magazines and so on) are quite gross. When I was talking muscles, I was talking your typical, go to the gym and bench two hundred kilograms sort of muscles.

There is nothing stopping nerds from being muscular. Hell, I know one nerd with a degree in exercise science, and another who is a personal trainer. One still plays D&D with us regularly and another plays Warhammer 40k and Risk with us quite often.

Of course, and those are the geeks/nerds that are more likely to get the hot ladies. The thing is that 95% of your geeks/nerds are not going to walk inside a gym.

Orrite I thought that said "Greeks and Nerds" XD

Why would Greeks not be worth it?

he does seem to be a bit off on his understanding of what makes a guy hot (to women).

If I am a bit off, then why do I observe this happening every day? I actually observe which males are going which which females, and the "hot" females tend to, 99% of the time, be in the romantic company of males with decent muscles.

well-built guys are hot. if they are also good looking. and reasonably tall.

Thank you - point proven, case closed

musicians are hot.

I have never seen a musician in the romantic company of a "hot" female.

guys with great cars and a good sense of style are hot.

Again, another point proven. These guys tend to be well-built as well, so that probably contributes to their hotness.

lots of other kinds of guys are hot. big muscles are seldom part of it.

Then why is it that all the muscly men are in the romantic company of "hot" females?

I think there is a lot of misconception out there on what women consider attractive. Guys tend to think it is the same way as themselves which is entirely untrue. Guys tend to go for the looks aspect as the defining characteristic of hotness. Women don't seem to make that the central part of looking for a mate. They tend to take in many aspects of a man on not focus to much on one part. Which is good if you ask me. That is probably the right way to go about it.

If it is such a misconception, then again, I ask, why it is that the men with good looks that are in the romantic company of "hot" females?

untrue.

If it is so untrue, then why do I observe that happening everyday?

Some of us would rather be in a relationship with a compatable mate than worry about some arbitrary "social standing" among people obviously too shallow to worry about.

Maybe some, but as I have said, there are exceptions to every rule. The vast majority of people I have observed act in that way though.

Beauty fades but dumb is forever, so says Judge Judy arbiter of all things widsomdy and such.
Maybe intelligence isn't worthwhile to the average, but for some of us... idiocy is just unfathomable torture. I like my pale geeky guy because I can have intelligent conversation with him, and he gets my jokes.

Again, exception to the rule. Judge Judy may be wise in that regard, but that is flying in the face of reality.

Case reopened. I've heard ninety-four more anecdotes that say otherwise. I win.

Ninety-four! Well done, a quick Google search will show that there are hundreds more females with the opposite opinion. Even among us guys, we acknowledge that females prefer experience. I win, case closed again.

Nerds/Geeks have the same amount of choices, they are likely to be more discerning though, considering they think with their brain at least 30% of the time.

Why do you think that Geeks/Nerds have the same amount of choices? They will almost certainly get turned down by any good looking female, and as I said, that would leave them with the lower strata of females. They aren't more likely to be discerning, they are more likely to be desperate.

I don't often want to talk to a newspaper.

My point was that you don't need a Geek/Nerd to tell you about current events. I certainly don't use it, I use the New Zealand Herald, the TV1 news and the NZ Yahoo page to get my current events.

Hotness to me, hasn't much to do with the physical exterior. Yes I like that my geek is teh hawt, but it doesn't really have anything to do with how he looks.

Again, exception to the rule.

Finally, Ashmoria, no offence intended, but your posting style reminds of a similar poster on another (railway) board

Interesting view, but one that has been reinforced by my own observations of people. Also, for the record, I personally do agree that people with muscles that show their veins as well (the ones you find in magazines and so on) are quite gross. When I was talking muscles, I was talking your typical, go to the gym and bench two hundred kilograms sort of muscles.

Those are also gross. I like my men slender, not all bulgy. Why the heck would I care how much a guy can lift, anyway? I don't date guys for their ability to lift heavy objects.


If I am a bit off, then why do I observe this happening every day? I actually observe which males are going which which females, and the "hot" females tend to, 99% of the time, be in the romantic company of males with decent muscles.

I think I have figured out the answer: you have some totally weird definition of what makes a woman "hot."


I have never seen a musician in the romantic company of a "hot" female.

...and my theory is officially confirmed.

If it is such a misconception, then again, I ask, why it is that the men with good looks that are in the romantic company of "hot" females?


because the men you see with "hot" females take the time to fit in with the "hot" females you see them with.


few women who spend hours every day working on the way they look are interested in men who do not do the same.

if you broadened your definition of "hot" in women you would find that many more hot women are interested in more than just they way a man looks. if all you think of as hot is the shallow fashion queens then yes, you are going to find that those women are only interested in certain types of men--usually handsome and rich rather than handsome and muscular.

move into the country, gonna eat a lot a peaches..,

Dude. My kids are named after Star Trek characters, I have a bat'leth on my fireplace and I know how to use it. I have a computer program for my grocery list that works on a database I wrote myself. I taught myself Klingon and last year our Christmas card was nearly written entirely in it. I out geek you... and I'M A GIRL.
I win. you lose. get over it.

Yeah? Well.... well.... do you have WORKING LIGHTSABER???

(...neither do I... I got nothin'....)

Yeah? Well.... well.... do you have WORKING LIGHTSABER???

(...neither do I... I got nothin'....)

When i was younger and hadnt seein StarWars (insert gasp here) i sued to think they fought with 'lifesavers' rather then 'lightsabers'.

Useful information no. 1.

When i was younger and hadnt seein StarWars (insert gasp here) i sued to think they fought with 'lifesavers' rather then 'lightsabers'.

Useful information no. 1.

Liiiiife...Savers...Yummmmmmmmmmm.

Why would Greeks not be worth it?


Can't let them near the crockery :p

Liiiiife...Savers...Yummmmmmmmmmm.

Ironically, I once choked on a Life saver and nearly died. Due to the hole in the middle, though, I was able to breathe until my kind brother punched me in the stomach to get it out..... five times..... after it came out.

And no, I don't live in Turkmenistan. But, if I did.... thats another story.

.......I know you're out there. I can you breathing.

I can you breathing.
Once you finish sealing the can, he'll stop doing that!

When i was younger and hadnt seein StarWars (insert gasp here) i sued to think they fought with 'lifesavers' rather then 'lightsabers'.

Useful information no. 1.

Yeah... me too. Even after I'd seen it... 'cause I dind't know what a 'saber' was.

Unfortunately, I was exposed to Star Wars at a young age, which horribly scarred me for the rest of my life.

Those are also gross. I like my men slender, not all bulgy. Why the heck would I care how much a guy can lift, anyway? I don't date guys for their ability to lift heavy objects.

Maybe not you, but all the "hot" females I see are always in the arms of guys with large muscles, and therefore have an ability to lift heavy objects.

I think I have figured out the answer: you have some totally weird definition of what makes a woman "hot."

...and my theory is officially confirmed.

I don't have a wierd definition of "hot" when it comes to women, if I did, then all men must have a wierd definition of hot.

because the men you see with "hot" females take the time to fit in with the "hot" females you see them with.


few women who spend hours every day working on the way they look are interested in men who do not do the same.

Thank you for effectively agreeing with my point. My point all along has been that "hot" women end up with "hot" men.

if you broadened your definition of "hot" in women you would find that many more hot women are interested in more than just they way a man looks. if all you think of as hot is the shallow fashion queens then yes, you are going to find that those women are only interested in certain types of men--usually handsome and rich rather than handsome and muscular.

My definition of "hot" is of the exact same broadness as society's definition, so to make it any broader would mean that I would consider unhot females to be hot, and that wouldn't be right now, would it? Furthermore, here in New Zealand, we don't have that many rich people, so the females have to generally put up with handsome and muscular, although I do agree, wealth can make up for a lack of muscles.

My definition of "hot" is of the exact same broadness as society's definition, so to make it any broader would mean that I would consider unhot females to be hot, and that wouldn't be right now, would it? Furthermore, here in New Zealand, we don't have that many rich people, so the females have to generally put up with handsome and muscular, although I do agree, wealth can make up for a lack of muscles.

youre very sad.

does it also bother you that no multi millionaire heiresses will give you the time of day?

so...many people...talking about stuff that i shouldnt hear...ARRGG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!! (dont reply you will never hear from me again)
:D :sniper:

so...many people...talking about stuff that i shouldnt hear...ARRGG I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!! (dont reply you will never hear from me again)
:D :sniper:

Too bad!

youre very sad.

does it also bother you that no multi millionaire heiresses will give you the time of day?

Why do you think I am very sad? I am just reflective of modern society and reality. Also, I couldn't care less about multi-millionaire heiresses; where did you get that idea from?

Maybe not you, but all the "hot" females I see are always in the arms of guys with large muscles, and therefore have an ability to lift heavy objects.



I don't have a wierd definition of "hot" when it comes to women, if I did, then all men must have a wierd definition of hot.



Thank you for effectively agreeing with my point. My point all along has been that "hot" women end up with "hot" men.



My definition of "hot" is of the exact same broadness as society's definition, so to make it any broader would mean that I would consider unhot females to be hot, and that wouldn't be right now, would it? Furthermore, here in New Zealand, we don't have that many rich people, so the females have to generally put up with handsome and muscular, although I do agree, wealth can make up for a lack of muscles.

I'm hot. ;)

I love nerds/geeks.

My wife wears a t-shirt that says "I love my geek"

I have a shirt that says "I"m not a geek, I'm a level 12 paladin" ;)

Everyone in my house is a geek, even our dog. lol

This is the thing - many women have already clued in to the fact that geeky guys can make really great partners. In fact, most of the geeks I know have girlfriends, and the ones who don't are just too plain weird or unhygienic to get a girl (and there actually aren't too many of those). If a geek's complaining that he has nobody, then he's probably just after the really superficial girls, who I'd warrant are less than 1 in every three girls. So what about the other two thirds of women? My geeky cousin couldn't get a girlfriend for ages because he was obsessed with this one girl who wasn't interested in him. When he eventually got over her he found a girl who was into him and they've been inseparable for 2 years.

The problem isn't being a geeky guy, it's being a geeky girl, and an ugly one at that. Because men are far more superficial than women.