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I came across this while stumbling, and thought it worthy of posting. This is the right forum for this, right?

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/66795671.html

In the wide world of dating, there are many options. Do you go for the flashy guy with the smooth smile, or the dude in the corner typing away on his laptop? The following are reasons why I think my fellow females should pay more attention to the quiet geeks and nerds, and less attention to the flashy boys.

1.) While geeks and nerds may be awkward, they’re well-meaning 9 out of 10 times. That smooth dude with the sly grin and the spider hands? Wonder what HIS intentions are... plus, I’ve never had a geek guy not call me when he said he would. Score major points THERE.

2.) They’re useful. In this tech-savvy world, it’s great to have a b/f who can make your laptop, desktop, and just about anything else that plugs into a wall behave itself.

3.) They’re more romantic than they’re given credit for. Ok true, their idea of romance might be to make up a spiffy web-page with all the reasons why they love you, with links to pics of you and sonnets and such... but hey. It lasts longer than flowers, plus you can show your friends.

4.) Due to their neglected status, there are plenty to choose from. You like ‘em tall and slender? There are plenty of geeks/nerds who are. You like ‘em smaller with more meat on their bones? Got that too.

5.) They’ve got brains. Come on now, how can intelligence be a bad thing?

6.) Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy. Due again to their neglected status, they’re more attentive than guys who “have more options”. Plus, with all that down time without a steady girlfriend, they’ll likely have mental lists of all the things they’d love to do once they GOT a girlfriend.

7.) Sex. Yep. Sex. I’m not really familiar with this myself, but I’ve friends who’ve been intimate with geek guys and it’s raves all around. They say a virgin wrote the Kama Sutra... all that time thinking about sex, imagining sex, dreaming about sex, (they are male after all) coupled with a desire to make you happy? Use your imagination.

8.) They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?

9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines. You won’t have to worry much about your geek guy getting his “groove” on with club hotties because, frankly, he’ll be too busy rooting around under his computer wondering where that spare cable went. You won’t have to worry about him flirting with other women because, 9 out of 10 times, he’ll zip right by them in a perfect b-line towards the nearest electronics store. I’ve seen this happen.
Me: “Eww. Victoria Secret’s Models... They’re so skinny. How is that feminine? You can see her ribs!”
Geek Guy: “ooooooo...”
Me: “Hey!” *notices he is staring lustfully towards the computer store*
Geek Guy: “What?”
Me: “Never mind...”

10.) Although he may not want to go to every outing with you, you can arrange swaps, as in, you’ll go to his Gamer Con dressed as an elf princess if he’ll take you to the ballet. Plus, if he doesn’t want to go someplace with you, you won’t have to worry much about what he’s up to. You’ll probably come home to find him asleep on his keyboard in a sea of Mt. Dew cans with code blinking from the screen. It’s ok. He’s used to this. Just toss a blanket over him and turn out the light.

11.) His friends aren’t jerks. I can’t stress this enough. You’ll more likely get “Omg! A GIRL!! Can I see?!” than “Hey hot stuff back that ass up here and let me get some grub on...” They’re awkward geeks too and will, 9 times out of 10, treat you with the utmost respect and, more than likely, a note of awe. A cute girl picked one of their clan to date? It could happen to them! Hope! Drag some of your single girlfriends over, open up a pack of Mt. Dew, crack open the DnD set and get working. Nothing impresses geek guys more than a girl who can hack-n-slash (well ok maybe if she can code... a geek can dream).

12.) They’re rarely if ever possessive. They trust you, so you can be yourself around them. You like to walk around the house in a ratty t-shirt for comfort? He won’t care. He does too! They won’t get pissy if you don’t wear make-up or don’t want to bother primping your hair. If you gain a few pounds, they won’t try their best to make you feel like crap.

13.) They’re usually very well educated. Physics majors and the like. See #5. You won’t have to listen to him blathering on about his car (ok maybe a little), he’ll have loads of other interesting things to talk about. Politics, world events, how much the chicken burgers down at the local place rock, so long as you douse them in hot sauce...

14.) You’ll almost never have to hear, “Yaw dawg whazzap!!” plop out of their mouths. Unless it’s in jest. They spell properly, use correct punctuation, and are able to tell the difference between the toilet and the floor. They almost never get “wasted”, so you won’t have to worry about coming home to find him and his friends passed out on the floor amidst a pile of beer bottles. Mt. Dew cans, perhaps...

15.) And the final reason why geeks and nerds make great boyfriends: They actually give a damn about you. Not how you look (though that’s a plus), not how skinny you are, not how much make-up you primp yourself up with, but they like you for you. That kind of thing lasts longer than “DaMN baby you got a fine ass!!!” Believe me.




Basically, why my gfs have been pretty smokin', tall, rail-like science nerd appearance. They've all ascribed to this complex theory.

Oh, and orgasms. Giving a girl multiple orgasms really helps keep them around.

I bet that was written by a geek.

you don't have to be a nerd to give a rats ass about your Gf...

and some dorks just don't do well with women normally when the newness of having a gf wears off and they would rather play DND then have sex.

I bet that was written by a geek.

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?

Well, of course they made it seem that way.

Come on, it's clearly a single geek who can't bring himself to just ask a girl out, so is trying to make her realise that he's the one in the most roundabout way possible.

Eh. I'm not as paranoid as Phil, but eh. I'm sure there's a 'damn straight!' in me somewhere, but eh. -I- already know this, let's go out and prove it.

My wife wears a t-shirt that says "I love my geek"

Eh. I'm not as paranoid as Phil, but eh. I'm sure there's a 'damn straight!' in me somewhere, but eh. -I- already know this, let's go out and prove it.

Paranoid?

That's a pretty strong way of putting it. :p

I <3 my geek. He once tried to save me in DnD even though it almost killed his character.

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
2) more likely to not stick up for you
3) expect you to be mom
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
5) overall shy and more stay at home

edit: in other words it makes no sense and women may as well give up and munch some carpet

9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines.

so their boring :confused:

Oh, and orgasms. Giving a girl multiple orgasms really helps keep them around.

jokes on you the Mrs has never had an orgasm :p

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
2) more likely to not stick up for you
3) expect you to be mom
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
5) overall shy and more stay at home
1 untrue
2 untrue
3 untrue
4 untrue
5 partially true... I wouldn't say shy, but yeah, he'd rather stay home






so their boring :confused:
I don't like to go to bars. They are smoky and full of people that have low IQ's......there is nothing for me to do there.

Paranoid?

That's a pretty strong way of putting it. :p

Aye, but I feel it appropriate in our case. :p

Mebbe, just mebbe, this girl isn't just out to copy your homework. It's a long shot, though, I know. ;)

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
2) more likely to not stick up for you
3) expect you to be mom
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
5) overall shy and more stay at home


As a geek I take exception to this list.

1)What does that mean? Doesn't anyone else? Are you assuming that having a preference for sci fi, computers and fantasy gaming is symptomatic of some sort of emotional trouble?

2)I quite disagree. If anything, I've had to be held back...

3)Not so. I like being self sufficient.

4)I'm currently dressed in a pair of khakis, a button down shirt, and I had a shower and shave this morning.

5)Shy? I've been described as boisterous and obnoxious more than shy.

But I do prefer an evening at home. So what?

And lest you doubt my geek credentials:

During lunch today I went home and played EverQuest II.
I also sniped an eBay auction for a Warhammer model.
I have a D&D game in a couple weeks I need to prepare for (I'm the DM)
In my free time I'm currently working on a program to simulate combat between PCs and NPCs in D&D so I can balance my encounters better
I'm also working on a Warhammer unit combat simulator so I can plan my armies better

and I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

And my IQ is 136.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.

Chicks can be geeks. Known as geekettes.

I used to date a geek who was a guy before I came out. It was a disaster. But he wasn't that smart (His IQ was 120...mine was 131 when I was ten years old) and it didn't help that I liked other women.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets. However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.

I bet that was written by a geek.

Hehe, yeah, I thought of the same thing.

GEEK PROPAGANDA!!!:D

5 partially true... I wouldn't say shy, but yeah, he'd rather stay home

geeks/nerds = introverted, the rest are high end probabilities of what they will be like

I don't like to go to bars. They are smoky and full of people that have low IQ's......there is nothing for me to do there.

1) not since the smoking ban :p (even though its a tad weird that it that turns you off something)

2) I have never known someones IQ to be an accurate representation of what they are like as a person but I guess this could comes under you either going to the wrong places or sticking your nose up

3) what do you do on a night out :confused:

I don't like to go to bars. They are smoky and full of people that have low IQ's......there is nothing for me to do there.

Smoky bars? Where?

As for low IQs, I go to bars occasionally and can testify that when I do, the average IQ actually quadruples.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.

That's awful daring, to say something like that on the internet...

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
2) more likely to not stick up for you
3) expect you to be mom
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
5) overall shy and more stay at home

edit: in other words it makes no sense and women may as well give up and munch some carpet


1) And the hot guy out in the bar trying to nail everything that walks doesn't have emotional issues? I've got a drinking buddy who gets laid every night with a different chick. He also has an illegitimate daughter, whom he has never seen (but I have). Once or twice, he's offered to "Eiffel tower some bitches" with me. I declined, b/c I don't roll like that. Nonetheless, he's a great drinking buddy, and fun to be around, but there's no way I'd date him if i were a chick.

2) We're talking about geeks, not eunuchs. And what do you mean by "stick up for me"? What, you're some 1800s woman, cowering in the corner, and need a big, strong man to protect you?

3) No, we expect you to be our partner. That means you cook, I do the dishes. You vacuum the apartment, I clean the bathroom. That's how a real relationship is supposed to work.

4) If you care more about fashion than personality, I can't help you.

5) No argument there, but that makes us much less likely to end up on Maury.

edit response: I've heard from my female friends that bedroom ability is inversely proportional to hotness. In other words, the hot guy expects you to do the work because he's hot, and you're the girl. The geek does the work to get you off because he wants you to be happy.




jokes on you the Mrs has never had an orgasm :p

Hey, just b/c you've never had one doesn't mean I don't know how to treat my woman.

geeks/nerds = introverted, the rest are high end probabilities of what they will be like
Between my geeky husband and his geeky friends your list fails.

1) not since the smoking ban :p (even though its a tad weird that it that turns you off something)
Bars are the only place you can still smoke here. Not being able to breathe turns me off to a lot of things.

2) I have never known someones IQ to be an accurate representation of what they are like as a person but I guess this could comes under you either going to the wrong places or sticking your nose up

People with low IQ tend to piss me off. Therefore I don't like to be around them. I'm an elitist. I know this. I have my Mensa membership card to prove it.
3) what do you do on a night out :confused:

movies
bowling
boating
skating
star gazing
visit friends
film festival
Con
dinner out
If you can't figure out anything to do on a night out that doesn't involve getting drunk....you are the boring one.

1)What does that mean? Doesn't anyone else? Are you assuming that having a preference for sci fi, computers and fantasy gaming is symptomatic of some sort of emotional trouble?

fleeing into your own fantasy land is usually quite a nice indicator of something

the rest of your list is you trying to prove that your an exception which is rather fruitless no?

But I do prefer an evening at home. So what?

adventure is fun?

And my IQ is 136.

I think I may have scored higher than you :eek:

the rest of your list is you trying to prove that your an exception which is rather fruitless no?

When, honestly, we've not seen anything substantial that's not an exception?

Chicks can be geeks. Known as geekettes.


No thanks on the silly gendered diminutive. I'm quite definitely a geek, not a "geekette." Boobs do not preclude geekdom. :p

As for that list, while some parts of it are accurate, some parts are complete nonsense. Being a geek does not mean a guy is nice, sweet, romantic, or loyal. My ex was about as geeky as it is humanly possible to be, and he was still quite definitely an asshole. Geeks can cheat, geeks can beat their partners, geeks can be rapists, and it's dangerous to suggest that they're "safe" simply because they don't look like the popular perception of a "bad guy."

Chicks can be geeks. Known as geekettes.

I used to date a geek who was a guy before I came out. It was a disaster. But he wasn't that smart (His IQ was 120...mine was 131 when I was ten years old) and it didn't help that I liked other women.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets. However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.

I haven't met many geekettes. I dated a korean chick who was into anime, but that's more a cultural thing. I've never met an rl geekette, although that makes sense since they prolly don't get out that much.

You are a rare gem, or a 40 yr old wierdo trying out his new personality. Wait, are you my old high school principal?

Chicks can be geeks. Known as geekettes.

I used to date a geek who was a guy before I came out. It was a disaster. But he wasn't that smart (His IQ was 120...mine was 131 when I was ten years old) and it didn't help that I liked other women.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets. However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.

Heh if you want a daggit in the new BSG, go to the episode where Cally and Chief have to get blown out of th airlock and rescued by the raptor. One of the bits of debris that's blown out with them is a daggit.

That's awful daring, to say something like that on the internet...

You're right ;)

fleeing into your own fantasy land is usually quite a nice indicator of something

How is that different from any person who spends a lot of time reading, watching TV or going out to bars just to drink? Everybody has their own way of taking their mind off of things. What makes scifi gaming or literature so unworthy?


the rest of your list is you trying to prove that your an exception which is rather fruitless no?


An exception to what? You're trying to stereotype. I'm invalidating that stereotype.


adventure is fun?


Sure. So what?


I think I may have scored higher than you :eek:

Rut roh...

fleeing into your own fantasy land is usually quite a nice indicator of something


Not having a fantasy land to flee to signifies a lack of imagination.

Not having a fantasy land to flee to signifies a lack of imagination.

QFT

7.) Sex. Yep. Sex. I’m not really familiar with this myself, but I’ve friends who’ve been intimate with geek guys and it’s raves all around. They say a virgin wrote the Kama Sutra... all that time thinking about sex, imagining sex, dreaming about sex, (they are male after all) coupled with a desire to make you happy? Use your imagination.


:)

Not only that but since they have a lot of time to read about such things not only in the Kama Sutra....

Ask me how I know :D

1) And the hot guy out in the bar trying to nail everything that walks doesn't have emotional issues?

yes, because even the holiest of monks have dirty thoughts;)

2) We're talking about geeks, not eunuchs. And what do you mean by "stick up for me"? What, you're some 1800s woman, cowering in the corner, and need a big, strong man to protect you?

I rather like the whole strong and independent fetish its a massive turn for me and I dare say most people

also it amuses me how I'm sensing annoyance here

4) If you care more about fashion than personality, I can't help you.

being attractive is rather important to me

edit response: I've heard from my female friends that bedroom ability is inversely proportional to hotness.

girl talk

Hey, just b/c you've never had one doesn't mean I don't know how to treat my woman.

I have no idea what your getting at :confused:

People with low IQ tend to piss me off. Therefore I don't like to be around them. I'm an elitist. I know this. I have my Mensa membership card to prove it.

pfft like people with high IQ's are good people

If you can't figure out anything to do on a night out that doesn't involve getting drunk....you are the boring one.

but it enhances a good time, also you don't have to get drunk on a night out unlike say if I was stuck in watching the matrix

not all geeks are good boyfriends/people, and not all non-geeks are bad boyfriends/people either. but this is one generalisation i'm happy to live with ;)

More "geek" trash talk. So very old.

These days the IT field is full of well-adjusted party animals who like the outdoors, sports, and adventure. I should know, I am a DBA. The "geek" stereotype can still be found but so can any other stereotype you wish to promote.

I wish the whole "geek" myth would die off already.

1) yes, because even the holiest of monks have dirty thoughts;)

2) I rather like the whole strong and independent fetish its a massive turn for me and I dare say most people

also it amuses me how I sensing annoyance here

3) being attractive is rather important to me


4) I have no idea what your getting at :confused:



(Numbered so I don't have to put the [ QUOTE]s in)

1) Yes, but holy monks don't have sex with a different woman every night, signifying a fear of commitment and/or an objectification of women.

2) The funny part is, I'm annoyed because you're not standing up for women, so I have to stand up for women for you. I'm saying that I like women that are strong and independent too, and needing a guy to stand up for you signifies an inherent weakness in yourself.

Geeks are strong and independent, just not in ways that someone interested primarily in fashion or superficial appearance can appreciate.

3) Of course it is. Good luck in 20 or 30 years.

4) Of course you don't. I'll restate it. Just because you've never had an orgasm because you've only gone after the pretty boys who are only interested in pleasing themselves, doesn't mean that all men out there don't know what they're doing in the sack. I've got the claw marks to prove it.

What makes scifi gaming or literature so unworthy?

it has a higher level of weirdos who spend all day alone indoors never getting the light of day?

An exception to what? You're trying to stereotype. I'm invalidating that stereotype.

with yourself...over the internet...do you see some holes in using yourself as evidence this way? perhaps even bias?!

Sure. So what?

having fun is what people like thus:

going outside = adventure = fun guy [insert fungi joke]

Rut roh...

if its any consolation I'm rubbish at math :p

Not having a fantasy land to flee to signifies a lack of imagination.

fleeing to a fantasy land signifies mental illness :)

More "geek" trash talk. So very old.

These days the IT field is full of well-adjusted party animals who like the outdoors, sports, and adventure. I should know, I am a DBA. The "geek" stereotype can still be found but so can any other stereotype you wish to promote.

I wish the whole "geek" myth would die off already.

An IT job is a job. A geek is a person who fills their personal life with all things geeky. You don't have to work at compUSA to be a geek. I'm not defined by my career. Are you?

:)

Not only that but since they have a lot of time to read about such things not only in the Kama Sutra....

Ask me how I know :D

Ah, how you validate me, my love :fluffle:

I take it you got my E-mail?

it has a higher level of weirdos who spend all day alone indoors never getting the light of day?


You can find such people across the board. They're hardly unique to the sci fi fandom genre.

(Although I will give you that it does include the goth/vampire posers)


with yourself...over the internet...do you see some holes in using yourself as evidence this way? perhaps even bias?!


How about the fact that I'm a primary source!


having fun is what people like thus:

going outside = adventure = fun guy [insert fungi joke]


Ahhh so in your view going outside is a necessary component of having an adventure.


if its any consolation I'm rubbish at math :p


W00T!


fleeing to a fantasy land signifies mental illness :)

Only if you can't get back on your own ;)

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fleeing to a fantasy land signifies mental illness :)

Then all great fictional literature was written by crazy people.

I'd argue that the people who live only in the real world are the crazy ones. Unless, of course, you're just a coddled sorority-girl type whose "real" world has been constructed with daddy's money. Then, you don't have to flee to a fantasy world. You're already in one.

Note: Not presuming anything about you, CTP. I know many, many girls from my college days (and guys, for that matter) who skated through on daddy's dime, and got jobs afterwards with daddy's company or through daddy's pull. They're the ones who can't understand why there are so many poor people in the world. [/rant]

Ah, how you validate me, my love :fluffle:


We'll have none of that here, thanks. You'll get the nerd herd all up in arms, moaning and griping about the permanent despair of searching for a fellow geek, who'll only share their love of D&D and be willing to play second player.

An IT job is a job. A geek is a person who fills their personal life with all things geeky. You don't have to work at compUSA to be a geek. I'm not defined by my career. Are you?

That is exactly my point. In a field that is supposed to attract droves of geeks I find relatively few that fit the stereotype you promote. I don't understand why people would be happy about being socially inept.

I have played DnD, and other RPGs, for over 25 years. I love Star Trek. I have been to GenCon, amongst other Cons, multiple times. I work in the IT field. Never has it been easy to shove any of the people I have gotten to know through these past times as mere geeks.

My statement stands: I wish an end to the geek stereotype.

We'll have none of that here, thanks. You'll get the nerd herd all up in arms, moaning and griping about the permanent despair of searching for a fellow geek, who'll only share their love of D&D and be willing to play second player.

Oh but it's a beacon of hope, you see. PB&J is my wife, and she's the biggest geekette I've ever known. She plays EQ2 with me, plays Warhammer with me, loves Battlestar Galactica, and shares the same tastes in literature.

And did I mention she's a smokin' hottie? ROWR!

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
Why? Because they tend to stay home and play video games and such instead of going out?
2) more likely to not stick up for you
Where did you get this idea? Geeks tend to be more appreciative and respect their girlfriends/ wives. I would have to incapacitate my husband if a man disrespected me for him not to kill him. If a woman did... He wouldn't be physical but still wouldn't let it go without something said.

3) expect you to be mom
They don't expect this any more than any other man.

4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater

All the geeks I know and have ever known take a shower at least once per day... One I knew took two. The fashion part they may need help with from time to time.

5) overall shy and more stay at home

You definitely have it wrong. While some geeks are introverted, they aren't as traumatized as you seem to think. Some may need a little help out of their shell but take it from someone who knows.... My geek is one of the most boisterous people I know. (not meant in a bad way, my Love :) ) You should hear it over here when all of his buddies are over.... While there may be a lot of gaming going on... it is anything but quiet.

edit: in other words it makes no sense and women may as well give up and munch some carpet

9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines.

so their boring :confused:

You don't have to go to bars to have fun. I have never found my hubby boring and the only time I have ever seen him with a beer can in his hand he was making "Beer butt chicken". Yummy.

jokes on you the Mrs has never had an orgasm :p

Heh.... You would be amazed at what is learned when you have a lot of time to read. I have never had this problem. :D

That is exactly my point. In a field that is supposed to attract droves of geeks I find relatively few that fit the stereotype you promote. I don't understand why people would be happy about being socially inept.

I have played DnD, and other RPGs, for over 25 years. I love Star Trek. I have been to GenCon, amongst other Cons, multiple times. I work in the IT field. Never has it been easy to shove any of the people I have gotten to know through these past times as mere geeks.

My statement stands: I wish an end to the geek stereotype.

The mere thought that you and I were in a convention center together at one point.......disturbs me.

not all geeks are good boyfriends/people, and not all non-geeks are bad boyfriends/people either. but this is one generalisation i'm happy to live with ;)

however when a list is posted à la email from mum it needs to be stopped

SNIP

1) I'm pointing out that being a randy bag of lurve is human and not somehow a thing nerds/geeks (from this point on called gerds) are immune from

2) ah the accusations of not being a man, tell me if you find this 19th century expectation of me always riding in on a solid gold steed good? also who else would protect me from a moth attack?

3) in 20-30 years I will be into *does math* 48 year olds and will find the latest batch of kids to be annoying and unappealing (though your blatant expectation that old = unsexy is scary considering Kylie is 40)

4) Of course you don't. I'll restate it. Just because you've never had an orgasm because you've only gone after the pretty boys who are only interested in pleasing themselves, doesn't mean that all men out there don't know what they're doing in the sack. I've got the claw marks to prove it.

you missed the whole part where this is my Mrs but naturally I find it amusing that you have absolutely no idea of female anatomy and resort to the wholly ignorant "I'm amazing in bed LOL" talk

still: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4616899.stm

Ah, how you validate me, my love :fluffle:

I take it you got my E-mail?

yup :)

You definitely have it wrong. While some geeks are introverted, they aren't as traumatized as you seem to think. Some may need a little help out of their shell but take it from someone who knows.... My geek is one of the most boisterous people I know. (not meant in a bad way, my Love :) ) You should hear it over here when all of his buddies are over.... While there may be a lot of gaming going on... it is anything but quiet.


I know ;)


You don't have to go to bars to have fun. I have never found my hubby boring and the only time I have ever seen him with a beer can in his hand he was making "Beer butt chicken". Yummy.


Which did you like better, the beer butt chicken or the butterfly roasted?



Heh.... You would be amazed at what is learned when you have a lot of time to read. I have never had this problem. :D

:looking very smug right now:

If you can't figure out anything to do on a night out that doesn't involve getting drunk....you are the boring one.

Q to the F to the muthafuckin' T.

1) And the hot guy out in the bar trying to nail everything that walks doesn't have emotional issues? I've got a drinking buddy who gets laid every night with a different chick. He also has an illegitimate daughter, whom he has never seen (but I have). Once or twice, he's offered to "Eiffel tower some bitches" with me. I declined, b/c I don't roll like that. Nonetheless, he's a great drinking buddy, and fun to be around, but there's no way I'd date him if i were a chick.

2) We're talking about geeks, not eunuchs. And what do you mean by "stick up for me"? What, you're some 1800s woman, cowering in the corner, and need a big, strong man to protect you?

3) No, we expect you to be our partner. That means you cook, I do the dishes. You vacuum the apartment, I clean the bathroom. That's how a real relationship is supposed to work.

4) If you care more about fashion than personality, I can't help you.

5) No argument there, but that makes us much less likely to end up on Maury.

edit response: I've heard from my female friends that bedroom ability is inversely proportional to hotness. In other words, the hot guy expects you to do the work because he's hot, and you're the girl. The geek does the work to get you off because he wants you to be happy.

All well and good, but you're inverse stereotyping is no better than CTP's insistence on the traditional stereotype. How's about you represent you and people like you rather than classifying an entire "kind" of people (an idea which, in and of itself, is ludicrous).

More "geek" trash talk. So very old.

These days the IT field is full of well-adjusted party animals who like the outdoors, sports, and adventure. I should know, I am a DBA. The "geek" stereotype can still be found but so can any other stereotype you wish to promote.

I wish the whole "geek" myth would die off already.

As do I.

The whole problem here is the incessant need to put people in neat little boxes so that we don't have to think about them in complex terms. Well, am I an anime geek because I own the entirety of, say, Cowboy Bebop, FLCL and Golden Boy on DVD? Am I a music geek because I'm a music professorand can name just about anything that comes on the radio? If that's the case, then how do any of you personality-type generalists reconcile those things with my kowledge and love of watching US football (and basketball and the Olympics), playing golf, hiking, microbrews and wine, and things like that? How about the fact that I can cry at a film like Atonement and then go grunt joyously at the big ol' explosions in Iron Man or revel in the alpha maleness of Tommy Lee Jones in No Country For Old Men? How about my level of outdoor activity (I hiked to Horseshoe Mesa the Grand Canyon 10 days ago, 9 miles and 3000 vertical feet -- not the most amazing for those who hike all the time, but no slouch, either).

Most people are far more intricate in more ways than a label like "geek" will ever be able to describe. It seems to me that debating the qualities of what makes someone a geek makes about as much sense as debating the virtues of one short phrase in an entire symphony, one mouthful during a seven-course meal, or one brush-stroke in a masterpiece on canvas. True, those individual pieces are important parts of the whole, and can sometimes make or break the whole, but putting this much stock in one "kind" of personality trait is deliberately deciding not to see the forest for the trees.

I love me some geek.

Though as I noted elsewhere, the kind of geek that holes up for hours on hours playing video games instead of pushing MY buttons...not so much.

But I always went for the geeks. Part of my predatory nature perhaps. But also, they ended up almost unanimously being excellent in bed (because they didn't assume they'd be excellent in bed), extremely discreet...usually had a much hotter bod than they were letting on and ended up being kinkier by far than the pretty boys. Also, after you fucked them, you could actually have a conversation with them.

My favourite were the ones who ended up having a tattoo somewhere...because you'd never guess they were the type to have a tattoo, and you'd quickly find out they were suprising in other areas as well...mostly in the self-esteem department. The most fucked up, sad pathetic people I have ever known were the ones who, on the outside, looked like they should have it all...good looks, money, and status. The geeks took nothing for granted and developed a personality, intelligence, and other admirable traits. The pretty boys rarely had any of this.

Geeks make the best friends and fuckbuddies.

You can find such people across the board. They're hardly unique to the sci fi fandom genre.

however the whole cliché is almost tailor made right up to the community of self diagnosed assburgers

How about the fact that I'm a primary source!

I see your primary source and raise you Cultural bias

Ahhh so in your view going outside is a necessary component of having an adventure.

I can't remember the last time I made new friends in the dishwasher :(

Then all great fictional literature was written by crazy people.

do I need to point out how oddly true that is?

Note: Not presuming anything about you, CTP.

good because that would be silly

The mere thought that you and I were in a convention center together at one point.......disturbs me.

"...to seek out new life and new civilizations"

1) however when a list is posted à la email from mum it needs to be stopped

2) I'm pointing out that being a randy bag of lurve is human and not somehow a thing nerds/geeks (from this point on called gerds) are immune from

3) ah the accusations of not being a man, tell me if you find this 19th century expectation of me always riding in on a solid gold steed good? also who else would protect me from a moth attack?

4) in 20-30 years I will be into *does math* 48 year olds and will find the latest batch of kids to be annoying and unappealing (though your blatant expectation that old = unsexy is scary considering Kylie is 40)

5)you missed the whole part where this is my Mrs but naturally I find it amusing that you have absolutely no idea of female anatomy and resort to the wholly ignorant "I'm amazing in bed LOL" talk

still: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4616899.stm

1) I found it while stumbling, as stated in the OP
2) I understand your assertion, now please go back and understand mine
3) What the hell are you talking about? I said that I think a woman should be strong on her own, and that you shouldn't need a guy to protect you from a moth. However, letting him do so makes him feel useful.
4) Why are the latest batch of kids annoying? Do they look annoying, or does it have something to do with their personalities? So, looks aren't the most important thing?
5) What gave you the idea I have no idea of female anatomy? Are you even reading my posts? Is this President Bush? Your foreign policy sucks!

snip

PC is so boring. Besides, without stereotypes, we'd have to actually get to know one another. Who wants that?

1)I've heard from my female friends that bedroom ability is inversely proportional to hotness. In other words, the hot guy expects you to do the work because he's hot, and you're the girl. The geek does the work to get you off because he wants you to be happy.

Amen!

I love me some geek.

Though as I noted elsewhere, the kind of geek that holes up for hours on hours playing video games instead of pushing MY buttons...not so much.

But I always went for the geeks. Part of my predatory nature perhaps. But also, they ended up almost unanimously being excellent in bed (because they didn't assume they'd be excellent in bed), extremely discreet...usually had a much hotter bod than they were letting on and ended up being kinkier by far than the pretty boys. Also, after you fucked them, you could actually have a conversation with them.

My favourite were the ones who ended up having a tattoo somewhere...because you'd never guess they were the type to have a tattoo, and you'd quickly find out they were suprising in other areas as well...mostly in the self-esteem department. The most fucked up, sad pathetic people I have ever known were the ones who, on the outside, looked like they should have it all...good looks, money, and status. The geeks took nothing for granted and developed a personality, intelligence, and other admirable traits. The pretty boys rarely had any of this.

Geeks make the best friends and fuckbuddies.

So...what're you doing later? ;)

So...what're you doing later? ;)

Geek fucking.

I haven't met many geekettes. I dated a korean chick who was into anime, but that's more a cultural thing. I've never met an rl geekette, although that makes sense since they prolly don't get out that much.

You are a rare gem, or a 40 yr old wierdo trying out his new personality. Wait, are you my old high school principal?

I'll go with rare gem since a 19 year old girl who dropped out of school in a mixture of boredom and circumstances outside of her control usually aren't allowed to be high school principals.

Geek fucking.


Woo! Me too :D

Which did you like better, the beer butt chicken or the butterfly roasted?





Its been so long since we had the beer butt chicken its hard to say....


.... Is this our new way of chatting throughout the day?

Very geek! :p

One con:
Nerds can be fucking assholes sometimes. The problem with the whole intelligence thing is that 9 out of 10 times, a nerd knows he's smart, and isn't afraid to prove it. And often, that's all a nerd has. If he's been neglected for poor physical strength or a lack of social graces, retreating to his intellectual superiority is a good defense mechanism. So while he may be smart, nice, and meaning well, don't be surprised if he acts like you're half as intelligent as he is (because it's probably true).

So. Don't be surprised if he blows you off because you called it "Eff-Ell-Cee-Ell" instead of "Fooly Cooly," you don't know why rolling a natural 20 is a good thing, or you haven't seen "Trouble with Tribbles" 16 times this year.


Edit: Also, yeah, the whole geek stereotype is dying out. Mostly because "geek" and "nerd" describe everything from that guy that plays DnD but you couldn't tell by looking to the Japanese "otaku" who people think is actually mentally retarded. (And for the record, I fucking hate people who aren't Japanese who use the word "otaku". It means you're retarded! You're calling yourself retarded!). But also "geek" is dying because of movies like "Revenge of the Nerds". 1980's for the win.

I bet that was written by a geek.
I bet it was written by someone who won't date geeks.

One con:
Nerds can be fucking assholes sometimes. The problem with the whole intelligence thing is that 9 out of 10 times, a nerd knows he's smart, and isn't afraid to prove it. And often, that's all a nerd has. If he's been neglected for poor physical strength or a lack of social graces, retreating to his intellectual superiority is a good defense mechanism. So while he may be smart, nice, and meaning well, don't be surprised if he acts like you're half as intelligent as he is (because it's probably true).

So. Don't be surprised if he blows you off because you called it "Eff-Ell-Cee-Ell" instead of "Fooly Cooly," you don't know why rolling a natural 20 is a good thing, or you haven't seen "Trouble with Tribbles" 16 times this year.

Geek assholery is no less annoying than any assholery.

People who live for pop culture references, either contemporary or not, do not fall into the category of geeks I lust after. Those that are familiar, but not obsessed can pass Go and collect $200. :P

There is nothing 'less intelligent' about a person who doesn't give a fuck about the latest memes.

you haven't seen "Trouble with Tribbles" 16 times this year.
You know who else hasn't seen Trouble with Tribbles 16 times? Communists.

however the whole cliché is almost tailor made right up to the community of self diagnosed assburgers


I may regret this but I must ask...

What's an assburger?


I see your primary source and raise you Cultural bias


Clearly the only way to settle this is with a game of Magic:The Gathering


I can't remember the last time I made new friends in the dishwasher :(


Is that where you usually go when it's a rainy day out?

Woo! Me too :D

Score!

Its been so long since we had the beer butt chicken its hard to say....


.... Is this our new way of chatting throughout the day?

Very geek! :p

Hmm sounds like a request... Perhaps I should prepare one on Saturday?

I may regret this but I must ask...

What's an assburger?

It's a stupid term made up to mock people with Asperger's syndrome, also used (somewhat more justifiably) to mock people who diagnose themselves with Asperger's based on being generally socially inept.

It's a stupid term made up to mock people with Asperger's syndrome, also used (somewhat more justifiably) to mock people who diagnose themselves with Asperger's based on being generally socially inept.

that's... disappointing...

Those that are familiar, but not obsessed can pass Go and collect $200. :P

joke on you, in Britain we get £200

What's an assburger?

someone who claims to have asperger's syndrome without actually being tested or anything

Clearly the only way to settle this is with a game of Magic:The Gathering

enviromental bias :p

the only way to settle this is with a good old game of eat the doo doo, you go first

Is that where you usually go when it's a rainy day out?

I'm English

Geek assholery is no less annoying than any assholery.

People who live for pop culture references, either contemporary or not, do not fall into the category of geeks I lust after. Those that are familiar, but not obsessed can pass Go and collect $200. :P

There is nothing 'less intelligent' about a person who doesn't give a fuck about the latest memes.

This is true, but that's not going to stop geek from laughing at you because you haven't seen Charlie the Unicorn 2.

And anyways, I always find geek douchebaggery to be worse. I mean, a normal asshole I don't care about because at least he's got a point: he probably does look damn good, works out, whatever, yeah? But I find nerdy assholes to be hypocrites: like this one chick I know who's often very snooty about her knowledge of anime, and then she calls it "Eff-Ell-Cee-Ell". Mind, it's supposed to be called "Fooly Cooly" but I don't care all that much. But when you make a big deal out of shyte like that and then get it wrong? Douchebaggery!

You know who else hasn't seen Trouble with Tribbles 16 times? Communists.

Those red bastards. I bet they haven't even seen that TNG episode where they go back in time to that episode!

It's a stupid term made up to mock people with Asperger's syndrome, also used (somewhat more justifiably) to mock people who diagnose themselves with Asperger's based on being generally socially inept.

Like pretty much ever supposed-Aspie on this forum.

someone who claims to have asperger's syndrome without actually being tested or anything


That's better


enviromental bias :p

A lightsaber duel?


the only way to settle this is with a good old game of eat the doo doo, you go first

I'm English

My friend, if you're English, then from what I've heard of British cuisine you win the eat the doo doo game already. :P

Those red bastards. I bet they haven't even seen that TNG episode where they go back in time to that episode!

:AHEM:

That was a Deep Space Nine episode, thank you.

And anyways, I always find geek douchebaggery to be worse.

I think it's just as sad.

:AHEM:

That was a Deep Space Nine episode, thank you.

I was thinking TNG because it had Warf in it, and I forgot he was on DS9 because I never really got into DS9...

Or any of the 'Treks for that matter.

I think it's just as sad.

Fair enough. Maybe it's just because I'm around nerds more.

Only DS9 episode worth watching IMO.

:cool:

Voyager FTW!

*runs away*

It's fun to watch Voyager and pick out the propaganda.


Hey look, timewarp gave me a tripple post. That's pretty nifty.

:AHEM:

That was a Deep Space Nine episode, thank you.

Only DS9 episode worth watching IMO.

:cool:

Voyager FTW!

*runs away*

My friend, if you're English, then from what I've heard of British cuisine you win the eat the doo doo game already. :P

I will take a toad in the hole over a chili dog every time

however naturally because I won it means *thinks back* that you don't exist!

It's fun to watch Voyager and pick out the propaganda.

:eek:

:eek:

We can't kill them just because they took over the ship and brutally hunted down and murdered half the crew just for sport! We should be nice to them instead.

I will take a toad in the hole over a chili dog every time

What's a toad in the hole?

Although damn... I could really go for a chili dog right about now...


however naturally because I won it means *thinks back* that you don't exist!


What? No? How? :eek:
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It's fun to watch Voyager and pick out the propaganda.
It's not quite as fun as watching Enterprise and picking out the propaganda.

jokes on you the Mrs has never had an orgasm :p

Back up, back up...What? You've never given your wife an orgasm? You've never known the sheer joy of reducing the woman you love to a quivering, shaking pile of limbs? You've never had the pleasure of knowing, deep down, that you have completely fulfilled this woman's physical desire when she looks up at you with those beautiful eyes, unable to do anything except pant and shudder?

And what's more, you're proud of this fact? You link an article, stating that it's not your fault, it's in her genes! A geek would say, damn the genes, I'm learning some new fucking positions and I'll get her to the peak if I die trying. You say, eh, there's nothing to be done.

CTP, I've been on this forum for over three years, mostly as a lurker, but that is by far the saddest thing I've ever read here. You make me damn glad to be a geek.

The mere thought that you and I were in a convention center together at one point.......disturbs me.

Why? You had a brush with greatness and should feel honored.

Like pretty much ever supposed-Aspie on this forum.

Uh...does being diagnosed with Aspergers when I was a little girl by Teachers, Doctors and experts in the field make me a supposed-aspie?

Or can I just claim aspergers?

Why? You had a brush with greatness and should feel honored.

It irks me. I might have to burn my chain mail.

It's not quite as fun as watching Enterprise and picking out the propaganda.

I haven't seen enough Enterprise to notice. And by haven't seen enough I mean I watched the pilot ep, thought it had a nifty opening, and determined that nothing else of it was worth watching.

What's a toad in the hole?

sausages in like a Yorkshire pudding casing (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/0/01/20050710222606!Toad_in_the_hole.jpg)

its nicer with vegetarian sausages IMHO

Back up, back up...What? You've never given your wife an orgasm?

Mrs =/= wife, and shes never had one nor have many women (1 in 4 or something) and I suggest you drop it because its getting irritating

And what's more, you're proud of this fact? You link an article, stating that it's not your fault, it's in her genes! A geek would say, damn the genes, I'm learning some new fucking positions and I'll get her to the peak if I die trying. You say, eh, there's nothing to be done.

you have never even touched a woman as far as I can tell and your ecstatic bringing this up further proves it

tell you what why don't you go be a jerk somewhere else instead of waving some sort of Conan bullshit about how you conquer every woman you touch

CTP, I've been on this forum for over three years, mostly as a lurker, but that is by far the saddest thing I've ever read here.

its okay because your the only one taking issue :)

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?
Only in theory! :p

It irks me. I might have to burn my chain mail.

Oh. You are one of those people. Let me guess, your chain mail is size XXXXL?

Oh but it's a beacon of hope, you see. PB&J is my wife, and she's the biggest geekette I've ever known. She plays EQ2 with me, plays Warhammer with me, loves Battlestar Galactica, and shares the same tastes in literature.

And did I mention she's a smokin' hottie? ROWR!

Some are lucky. *bows to you in respect*

PC is so boring. Besides, without stereotypes, we'd have to actually get to know one another. Who wants that?

Wasn't PC, but I get your point.

Mrs =/= wife, and shes never had one nor have many women (1 in 4 or something) and I suggest you drop it because its getting irritating

Then why did you bring up the contention in the first place? You started that line of debate and now you're upset that he's continuing it? Bit disingenuous, eh?

you have never even touched a woman as far as I can tell and your ecstatic bringing this up further proves it

tell you what why don't you go be a jerk somewhere else instead of waving some sort of Conan bullshit about how you conquer every woman you touch

its okay because your the only one taking issue :)

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. :p

He has just as much proof that he's adept at pleasuring as you do that he's never touched a woman. Zero sum argument, that. But by all means, continue it, both of you. My popcorn's still warm, so I guess he's not the only one taking issue.

Oh. You are one of those people. Let me guess, your chain mail is size XXXXL?

Nope. I was a size 8 then.

:AHEM:

That was a Deep Space Nine episode, thank you.
I think the facts that a) you knew this immediately, and b) you felt the immediate need to point it out, validates your claim to be the geekiest/nerdiest on the board :D
I guess I should take you out for a steak dinner...

Only in theory! :p

Okay, seriously, as a female who spends a lot of time on the internet, who works with computers, who plays video games, reads sci-fi, speaks imaginary languages, who was a math and science prodigy, who plays D&D, who even owns glasses held together with tape, and who knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true of herself, could people please, PLEASE stop telling me I don't exist? :p

Oh. You are one of those people. Let me guess, your chain mail is size XXXXL?

wouldn't that be like one revealing chain?

Then why did you bring up the contention in the first place? You started that line of debate and now you're upset that he's continuing it? Bit disingenuous, eh?

no, because there is a line between talking about something and outright pocking

if I said I was mentally deficient would it be okay to take the same tone? of course not but my sex life seems to be unique

My popcorn's still warm, so I guess he's not the only one taking issue.

you will have bits of corn in your teeth by the end of this...

Okay, seriously, as a female who spends a lot of time on the internet, who works with computers, who plays video games, reads sci-fi, speaks imaginary languages, who was a math and science prodigy, who plays D&D, who even owns glasses held together with tape, and who knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true of herself, could people please, PLEASE stop telling me I don't exist? :p
I'm Poli! Yay!

Although you speak Elvish right? I totally speak Klingon.

...knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true...

Argh, that bothers me. Can my nerdiness make up for my blackness, in this scenario? Am I forever doomed to be rejected by both worlds? Woe, woe!

Argh, that bothers me. Can my nerdiness make up for my blackness, in this scenario? Am I forever doomed to be rejected by both worlds? Woe, woe!

You can totally just sing "black and nerdy" instead. :)

I'm Poli! Yay!

Although you speak Elvish right? I totally speak Klingon.

Hehe, yay, we're geek-twins!

I actually speak at least a little of all the languages of Middle Earth, because I'm just that nerdy. Speaking Klingon is also delightfully geeky, but I don't think it's as pretty as Quenya or Sindarin. :)

Okay, seriously, as a female who spends a lot of time on the internet, who works with computers, who plays video games, reads sci-fi, speaks imaginary languages, who was a math and science prodigy, who plays D&D, who even owns glasses held together with tape, and who knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true of herself, could people please, PLEASE stop telling me I don't exist? :p
Lies! All lies! Just the figment of every Nerds' imagination! *Shuns, disbelieves*

Hehe, yay, we're geek-twins!

I actually speak at least a little of all the languages of Middle Earth, because I'm just that nerdy. Speaking Klingon is also delightfully geeky, but I don't think it's as pretty as Quenya or Sindarin. :)

It's meant to be forceful and harsh.

btw

You are 90% geeky.

You're the ultimate geek. I'd write that in Klingon, but you'd probably correct my grammar. Get a girlfriend.

The current average score is: 31.75%

Fact: 18.23% of people who took this test believe in The Force.
http://www.matthewbarr.co.uk/geek/

I guess I'm probably as geeky as my man.

It's meant to be forceful and harsh.

Yuppers, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just means it doesn't suit me as well as something flowing and poetic. :)

(Plus, y'know, there's the fact that my feelings about Star Trek are something like, "Good shows, I like them," while my feelings about LOTR are more like, "One of the greatest books ever written, I know it backwards and forwards and upside -down and own the extended editions of all the movies which I bitch at when they screw with characters because, dude, I can't believe that bastard Peter Jackson made the Ents make a snap decision that's so WRONG and also one of my pet projects is making all the foods described in the books (my lembas are fantastic and wonderfully textually accurate!) and I'm totally working on learning how to write Tengwar characters so they look properly pretty and let me tell you the entire history of Middle Earth because seriously, I just love Tolkien LIEK WO!" ;) )

I think the facts that a) you knew this immediately, and b) you felt the immediate need to point it out, validates your claim to be the geekiest/nerdiest on the board :D
I guess I should take you out for a steak dinner...

Score!

btw


http://www.matthewbarr.co.uk/geek/

I guess I'm probably as geeky as my man.

Heh, only 85% here, but that might only be because I don't know what a "bum-bag" is or why it's geeky to wear one. :p

btw


http://www.matthewbarr.co.uk/geek/

I guess I'm probably as geeky as my man.

65% here. Har.

Heh, only 85% here, but that might only be because I don't know what a "bum-bag" is or why it's geeky to wear one. :p
Fanny pack. *nod* I don't know why it's geeky to wear one either, but that's probably because as a geek I "lack fashion sense".

http://www.gadgetpens.com/images/products/Bum-Bag-300x350.gif

Fanny pack. *nod* I don't know why it's geeky to wear one either, but that's probably because as a geek I "lack fashion sense".

http://www.gadgetpens.com/images/products/Bum-Bag-300x350.gif

Ah, of course. I really should have figured that out. I was kinda thinking of the American meaning of "bum" rather than the British and picturing one of those bags tied on a stick. :p

I can't believe that bastard Peter Jackson made the Ents make a snap decision that's so WRONG and also...
...and also what's with that Elrond? Isn't he supposed to be SIX THOUSAND YEARS OLD and totally bone-weary with the world?

I think the facts that a) you knew this immediately, and b) you felt the immediate need to point it out, validates your claim to be the geekiest/nerdiest on the board :D
I guess I should take you out for a steak dinner...

Filburt "Rocko" Wolfe, my level 6 gestaulted wiz 5 - Sandshaper 1 / Duskblade 6 wielding a great falchion made out of magical black shapesand from the city of the dead disagrees. Forcefully. With a shocking grasp channeled through his great falchion. (Because that's what Duskblades do).

...and also what's with that Elrond? Isn't he supposed to be SIX THOUSAND YEARS OLD and totally bone-weary with the world?

Mr. Anderson, welcome to Rivendale.

Mr. Anderson, welcome to Rivendale.

MEGATRON!

Mr. Anderson, welcome to Rivendale.
Suprised to see me?

In that outfit, yes.

You see Mister Anderson, you are the One(Ring)...

I <3 my geek. He once tried to save me in DnD even though it almost killed his character.

Awww... What did he do?

I <3 my geek. He once tried to save me in DnD even though it almost killed his character.

If the Book of Erotic Fantasy comes out, I'm leaving.

btw


http://www.matthewbarr.co.uk/geek/

I guess I'm probably as geeky as my man.

I reject this test because it only seems to care about computer geeks.

What about bio geeks like me?

Bleh. 62.5%. Whatever.

fleeing into your own fantasy land is usually quite a nice indicator of something

Yup, it's an indicative that the many OTHER entertainments or escapes, such as alcohol, drugs, nightclubs, and other tripe don't quite work for us, so we exercise our imaginations. By the way, how's that Psychology diploma working out for you?

Yup, it's an indicative that the many OTHER entertainments or escapes, such as alcohol, drugs, nightclubs, and other tripe don't quite work for us, so we exercise our imaginations. By the way, how's that Psychology diploma working out for you?

You rock. And you are brazilian.

Can I kiss you?

You rock. And you are brazilian.

Can I kiss you?

Si, si, por supuesto! :D

(You ARE Venezuelan, right? I tried to write that one in Spanish.)

Si, si, por supuesto! :D

(You ARE Venezuelan, right? I tried to write that one in Spanish.)

(I AM Venezuelan. Perfect spanish, you earned additional points).

Obrigado.

MUACKS!

(I AM Venezuelan. Perfect spanish, you earned additional points).

Obrigado.

MUACKS!

Ya vivi en Colombia, pero mi español no está más muy bueno... Solo sé unas palavras, y asi mismo, tiengo unas dudas...

De cualquiera forma, veamos qué responde Llamado al Poder...

(Y gracias por el portugués.)

By the way, how's that Psychology diploma working out for you?

leaps and bounds, right now its summer break thing and I'm waiting for my results :)

leaps and bounds, right now its summer break thing and I'm waiting for my results :)

You mean you don't HAVE one? And you're actually trying to make a psycho-diagnosis of an entire group out of those things you said? Wow. :p

You mean you don't HAVE one? And you're actually trying to make a psycho-diagnosis of an entire group out of those things you said? Wow. :p

no I just thought about sexing my mom and the rest came naturally;)

no I just thought about sexing my mom and the rest came naturally;)

Good to know where the magic began. :p

no I just thought about sexing my mom and the rest came naturally;)

ZOMG! Freud! is that you?
(anyone know why the hell Freud came up with that crazy idea, and the Oedipus complex thing?)
strange guy.

ZOMG! Freud! is that you?
(anyone know why the hell Freud came up with that crazy idea, and the Oedipus complex thing?)
strange guy.

Because he totally wanted to bone his mother so he said everyone did to cover his own ass?

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?

My fiancee is a NERD. A full-qualified NERD. She studies physics, knows Linux and C++, doesn't go "duh?" when you say "tt/ssh", likes to listen metal when studying algebra, plays Magic and used even to play Rolemaster and Vampire. Oh and the computer she built from spare pieces, she named it "Frankenstein".

I really love her.

THIS IS PURE GEEK PROPAGANDA!!!! :mad:


KILL ALL GODLESS DnD-PLAYING SODOMITE GEEKS!!!!!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

THIS IS PURE GEEK PROPAGANDA!!!! :mad:


KILL ALL GODLESS DnD-PLAYING SODOMITE GEEKS!!!!!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

My character once found magical drugs being used by a gang of half-orcs.

On the back of my character sheet I wrote: "Vial of heroine; weed; purple weed; meth; bag of crack..."

Someday, someone is going to find that sheet, stand up, and exclaim, "I knew it!"

I just going to quote one of my friends from a Vampire game...

"Ok great....now... we just need 33 babies"

Ill say no more

THIS IS PURE GEEK PROPAGANDA!!!! :mad:


KILL ALL GODLESS DnD-PLAYING SODOMITE GEEKS!!!!!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

http://www.fecundity.com/darkdung/setup.html

=)

And he can say "I love you" in Elvish.

I just going to quote one of my friends from a Vampire game...

"Ok great....now... we just need 33 babies"

Ill say no more

Okay, what about "He's too stupid to be bribed."?

I disagree:

1) they tend to have emotional issues
2) more likely to not stick up for you
3) expect you to be mom
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
5) overall shy and more stay at home

So you're saying that every single one of my geek/nerd friends is an exception to your list? Wow. That's a pretty amazing coincidence, no?

Or, y'know, that list has about as much truth to it as Bush's reasons for invading Iraq.

*gives thread a wedgie, followed by a swirly.*

*gives thread a wedgie, followed by a swirly.*
*Administers virus to your computer. Changes all your grades to F's* :)

*gives thread a wedgie, followed by a swirly.*

*sends a Bigby's Crushing Hand at New Manvir*

*gives thread a wedgie, followed by a swirly.*

*Sacrifices New Manvir in a blood stanistic ritual to my DnD gods*

*Sacrifices New Manvir in a blood stanistic ritual to my DnD gods*

Yes! Spill the blood of the nonbeliever to Yondalla!

Yes! Spill the blood of the nonbeliever to Yondalla!

Isn't she lawful good?

Isn't she lawful good?

Yep. He sorta should have picked Urdlen, for instance...

Isn't she lawful good?

Also the goddess of Halflings.

You're supposed to laugh at the irony.

You're supposed to laugh at the irony.

I did. I just wasn't sure it was intentional.

I reckon geeks and nerds are hot. :cool:

I did. I just wasn't sure it was intentional.

Indeed it was. Other options included Ehlonna or Garl Glittergold. You'd think St. Cuthbert would be an option, but I've always found followers of St. Cuthbert to be dodgy.

Indeed it was. Other options included Ehlonna or Garl Glittergold.

I don't know--gnomes can be pretty brutal.

I can picture them sacrificing the occasional kobold....

You'd think St. Cuthbert would be an option, but I've always found followers of St. Cuthbert to be dodgy.

Indeed. If you have to be lawful neutral when fighting evil, you're doing it wrong.

I don't know--gnomes can be pretty brutal.

I can picture them sacrificing the occasional kobold....

Beware the wrath of Pun-pun.

Indeed. If you have to be lawful neutral when fighting evil, you're doing it wrong.

St. Cuthbert people are creepy bastards. I never trust them.

After meeting Belkar, I find all halflings worthy of suspicion.

After meeting Belkar, I find all halflings worthy of suspicion.

I loathe Belkar, but not halflings. There's always Regis.

I loathe Belkar, but not halflings. There's always Regis.

Not a big fan of halflings. Don't hate them, but not a big fan. I think half-orcs are the shit, though. Raptorans are pretty nifty, too.

And don't get me fucking started on kobolds. My DM fell in love with kobolds. We have learned to fear kobolds. I would rather be thrown into a room filled with warring beholders than face a single kobold anymore.

And this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNZDknadRc) is where his love comes from.

And lest you doubt my geek credentials:

During lunch today I went home and played EverQuest II.
I also sniped an eBay auction for a Warhammer model.
I have a D&D game in a couple weeks I need to prepare for (I'm the DM)
In my free time I'm currently working on a program to simulate combat between PCs and NPCs in D&D so I can balance my encounters better
I'm also working on a Warhammer unit combat simulator so I can plan my armies better

and I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

And my IQ is 136.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.

Gee your such a nerd...whatever...come back when you have some real Geek credentials

I used to think that I was a geeky nerd, but then i found out I wasn't nerdy or geeky enough to even be accepted by them.

THIS IS PURE GEEK PROPAGANDA!!!! :mad:


KILL ALL GODLESS DnD-PLAYING SODOMITE GEEKS!!!!!

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:


http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

I never met anyone gay who also played D&D. A couple of bi folks, but no full-on gay men.

Don't you have a funeral to desecrate somewhere?

no, because there is a line between talking about something and outright pocking

Pocking? Is that slang for eating Pocky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky)?

you will have bits of corn in your teeth by the end of this...

Already there. That's why I floss.

Okay, seriously, as a female who spends a lot of time on the internet, who works with computers, who plays video games, reads sci-fi, speaks imaginary languages, who was a math and science prodigy, who plays D&D, who even owns glasses held together with tape, and who knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true of herself, could people please, PLEASE stop telling me I don't exist? :p

You confirmed your geekdom at that point. You needn't have gone further, though it was edifying.

I'm not going to lie, I normally read through the whole thread before I post to make sure what I think of to say hasn't been said before, but I got bored at page 4.

I wanted to drop one realization and then get out of the way. You joined a website where you get to build and decide the fate of a nation on the internet. That qualifies you for an IQ at least one deviation above the mean (one out of seven of a normal distributive population), and a semi-credential for geek/nerd-dom. I can't say that I am either, because I wouldn't don the title that stigmatized my teen years to save my life. Where I come from, those names aren't edifying ways of describing someone, nor are they something to be proud of, except in an attempt to nullify the power of the stigma.

Think of Columbine, West Jonesboro, or Virginia Tech and ask yourselves whether their 'peers' classified them as geeks or nerds. It will answer a lot of overlying questions where their motives are concerned.

Geek Test Results
You are 85% geeky.

You're the ultimate geek. I'd write that in Klingon, but you'd probably correct my grammar. Get a girlfriend.

Mhhh... I wonder what would my wife say if i got a girlfriend...

Oh come on with the 3+ Edition deities.

In MY day (and in my current campaign) We do 1st Edition and the deities come from the Legends & Lore book.

Gee your such a nerd...whatever...come back when you have some real Geek credentials

A duel, then!

I am a geek, and here's what I think:

1.) While geeks and nerds may be awkward, they’re well-meaning 9 out of 10 times. That smooth dude with the sly grin and the spider hands? Wonder what HIS intentions are... plus, I’ve never had a geek guy not call me when he said he would. Score major points THERE.
Geeks are no more or less likely to be jerks than anybody else. It's just as stupid to assume that a geek-guy is nice and well-meaning as it is to assume a jock guy is mean or sex-crazed.


2.) They’re useful. In this tech-savvy world, it’s great to have a b/f who can make your laptop, desktop, and just about anything else that plugs into a wall behave itself.

In this tech-savvy world, it's much better to develop these skills yourself instead of relying on your date to do it for you.


3.) They’re more romantic than they’re given credit for. Ok true, their idea of romance might be to make up a spiffy web-page with all the reasons why they love you, with links to pics of you and sonnets and such... but hey. It lasts longer than flowers, plus you can show your friends.

It's kind of stupid to assume that all females want "romance" in the form of flowers OR web-pages. I wouldn't like either one, so this item just tells me that geek-guys are as likely as non-geeks to give me things I don't want.


4.) Due to their neglected status, there are plenty to choose from. You like ‘em tall and slender? There are plenty of geeks/nerds who are. You like ‘em smaller with more meat on their bones? Got that too.

Geeks aren't "neglected" any more than anybody else is. They are, apparently, more likely to have a persecution complex, though. Boring.


5.) They’ve got brains. Come on now, how can intelligence be a bad thing?

They aren't the only ones. Brains are great. I'm all for brains. Talk nerdy to me all night long, baby, but please don't pretend that only "geeks" have brains. The smartest girl I ever met ended up being a few seconds short of qualifying for the Olympics in track and field. Jocks can be plenty smart!


6.) Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy. Due again to their neglected status, they’re more attentive than guys who “have more options”. Plus, with all that down time without a steady girlfriend, they’ll likely have mental lists of all the things they’d love to do once they GOT a girlfriend.

This is actually one of the strongest arguments AGAINST dating "geeks." Guys who sit around wishing they had a girlfriend tend to build up expectations a lot. They have this glorious notion of what it will be like to have Girlfriend. They usually picture something along the lines of American Pie, where their little geeky self gets a wild hot model girlfriend who just happens to love absolutely everything about them all the time. Unrealistic expectations aren't good for healthy relationships.


7.) Sex. Yep. Sex. I’m not really familiar with this myself, but I’ve friends who’ve been intimate with geek guys and it’s raves all around. They say a virgin wrote the Kama Sutra... all that time thinking about sex, imagining sex, dreaming about sex, (they are male after all) coupled with a desire to make you happy? Use your imagination.

Geeks aren't any more or less likely to be virgins, in my experience. They're not any more or less likely to be good in bed, either, and they're not magically more likely to be sexually compatible with YOU.

The one advantage I'd say they have is that most geeks I've met seem inclined to read a lot, and this leads them to read books like "The Joy Of Sex" and whatnot. Before losing his virgininty, my current partner was deeply anxious about how a woman's body worked, so--like the true geek he is--he read up and studied.


8.) They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?

Um, why am I expected to provide dinner, in any form? If he can't feed himself then he should starve, quickly, before he accidentally passes on his genes.


9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines. You won’t have to worry much about your geek guy getting his “groove” on with club hotties because, frankly, he’ll be too busy rooting around under his computer wondering where that spare cable went.

Well that sounds like a kicking Friday night...


You won’t have to worry about him flirting with other women because, 9 out of 10 times, he’ll zip right by them in a perfect b-line towards the nearest electronics store. I’ve seen this happen.
Me: “Eww. Victoria Secret’s Models... They’re so skinny. How is that feminine? You can see her ribs!”
Geek Guy: “ooooooo...”
Me: “Hey!” *notices he is staring lustfully towards the computer store*
Geek Guy: “What?”
Me: “Never mind...”

This is just bunk. Geek guys aren't any more or less likely to check out other women (or men, depending) and it's dangerous to think that you'll somehow be immune to that sort of behavior if you seek out geeks to date.


10.) Although he may not want to go to every outing with you, you can arrange swaps, as in, you’ll go to his Gamer Con dressed as an elf princess if he’ll take you to the ballet.

Because, of course, I must not want to go to Gamer Con? Naturally there cannot be any such thing as a female geek, nor could a female actually be interested in any of the geek activities listed above.

And, for the record, elves are epic lame. Give me a guy who prefers orc women.


Plus, if he doesn’t want to go someplace with you, you won’t have to worry much about what he’s up to. You’ll probably come home to find him asleep on his keyboard in a sea of Mt. Dew cans with code blinking from the screen. It’s ok. He’s used to this. Just toss a blanket over him and turn out the light.

Hooray for low standards!


11.) His friends aren’t jerks. I can’t stress this enough. You’ll more likely get “Omg! A GIRL!! Can I see?!” than “Hey hot stuff back that ass up here and let me get some grub on...”

How on Earth is the first reaction LESS of a jerkish reaction?

Maybe it's because I'm a gamer and a life-long girl geek, but I find it intensely obnoxious to be around guys who act like femaleness is a crazy mutation. Yes, I'm female, I've noticed. Get over it. Asking me for cyberz or making jokes about my bewbs is so tired. I know you think you're being cute by telling me I'm an honorary "boy" because I beat you at Team Fortress, but I'd rather you just grow up and stop fixating on my girl-cooties.


They’re awkward geeks too and will, 9 times out of 10, treat you with the utmost respect and, more than likely, a note of awe.

I'd rather they just treat me like a person, thanks.


A cute girl picked one of their clan to date? It could happen to them! Hope! Drag some of your single girlfriends over, open up a pack of Mt. Dew, crack open the DnD set and get working. Nothing impresses geek guys more than a girl who can hack-n-slash (well ok maybe if she can code... a geek can dream).

Newsflash to the world:

Not all girls think that impressing boys is the greatest thing in the world.

I like to play videogames because I FIND THEM FUN. I'm not interested in being hawt for the geek boys. I'm not interested in supplying them with girls to oggle.

The fact that geek boys want to Other me and hit on me and view me as some kind of weird freak because I'm a girl who dares to set a toe in their clubhouse does not make geeks more endearing. It makes them 10 year olds, and I'm not a pedophile.


12.) They’re rarely if ever possessive. They trust you, so you can be yourself around them. You like to walk around the house in a ratty t-shirt for comfort? He won’t care. He does too! They won’t get pissy if you don’t wear make-up or don’t want to bother primping your hair. If you gain a few pounds, they won’t try their best to make you feel like crap.

Again, talk about low standards. "Hooray for geeks, they won't abuse you!" Um, what do you want, a cookie? Sorry, but you don't get points for fundamental decency.


13.) They’re usually very well educated. Physics majors and the like. See #5. You won’t have to listen to him blathering on about his car (ok maybe a little), he’ll have loads of other interesting things to talk about. Politics, world events, how much the chicken burgers down at the local place rock, so long as you douse them in hot sauce...

This is always good. But earlier in the list it was explained that he'll be obsessed with his computer, seeing as how all "geeks" are obsessed with computers, which kind of contradicts the idea that he'll be a Renaissance Man with tons of amazing interests.


14.) You’ll almost never have to hear, “Yaw dawg whazzap!!” plop out of their mouths. Unless it’s in jest. They spell properly, use correct punctuation, and are able to tell the difference between the toilet and the floor. They almost never get “wasted”, so you won’t have to worry about coming home to find him and his friends passed out on the floor amidst a pile of beer bottles. Mt. Dew cans, perhaps...

Oh, well if the boys are passed out in a pile of Mt. Dew cans then that's MUCH better!


15.) And the final reason why geeks and nerds make great boyfriends: They actually give a damn about you. Not how you look (though that’s a plus), not how skinny you are, not how much make-up you primp yourself up with, but they like you for you. That kind of thing lasts longer than “DaMN baby you got a fine ass!!!” Believe me.

Again with the revoltingly low standards. I guess the writer assumes that all women are pathetic slugs with such low self-esteem that they routinely date men who don't give a damn about them. I'm sure such women exist, of course, but most women are a bit more interesting.

The whole list is really pretty lame. There are lots of awesome reasons to date a geek, but this list is mostly just a bunch of sexist assumptions, blatant lies, and barrel-scraping excuses.

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?

Thats impossible. Come on man you know the rules: There are no women on the internet. Something Awful forums proved it.

Thats impossible. Come on man you know the rules: There are no women on the internet. Something Awful forums proved it.

Girl = Guy In Real Life

I am a geek, and here's what I think:
I guess the writer assumes that all women are pathetic slugs with such low self-esteem that they routinely date men who don't give a damn about them.

From a male perspective, I think the opposite: That it's telling women not to give a damn about the men interested in them. The entire spiel can be reduced down into, "Geeks are pathetic losers who are so desperate for affection you can abuse them, ignore them, treat them like doormats/shit and they'll still hang around for more. You don't need to put any effort into maintaining the relationship 'cause he'll do it all for you."
Thus the writer's suggestion to women is to do to the geeks exactly what she denounces as abhorrent behaviour of what non-geek men (in her mind) do to women.

Only thing that the OP tells me is that the writer has some serious male-female relationship issues to resolve.

I'm inclined to agree with most of Bottle's points.

From a male perspective, I think the opposite: That it's telling women not to give a damn about the men interested in them. The entire spiel can be reduced down into, "Geeks are pathetic losers who are so desperate for affection you can abuse them, ignore them, treat them like doormats/shit and they'll still hang around for more. You don't need to put any effort into maintaining the relationship 'cause he'll do it all for you."

I dunno, the author still seems to assume that the girl will be fetching/cooking dinner, covering up the poor stupid shmoe when he falls asleep at his comp, and tolerating his annoying friends who treat her like a freak. He/she also seems to think that a gal is supposed to give a guy points for not calling her names or ignoring her needs in bed, which (at least to me) shows that guys are being held to insanely low standards here.

I think this is really pretty close to a lot of the standard icky stereotypes about men and women. Women are told to regard men as helplessly filthy morons who can't be expected to care for themselves (which is pretty mean toward men), and thus women are expected to basically play Mommy for any male they date (which is pretty mean toward women). Everybody loses, hooray!


Thus the writer's suggestion to women is to do to the geeks exactly what she denounces as abhorrent behaviour of what non-geek men (in her mind) do to women.

True, the author certainly seems to express a lot of contempt for geek interests. She/he talks about how geeks have such nice stuff to talk about, but seems to regard their GEEK interests as lame. She/he also seems to assume that no girl would actually be interested in such activities, outside of using them to attract a geek male, and the implication is that geekdom isn't good enough for girls to be into it.


Only thing that the OP tells me is that the writer has some serious male-female relationship issues to resolve.
Hell yes.

And lest you doubt my geek credentials:

During lunch today I went home and played EverQuest II.
I also sniped an eBay auction for a Warhammer model.
I have a D&D game in a couple weeks I need to prepare for (I'm the DM)
In my free time I'm currently working on a program to simulate combat between PCs and NPCs in D&D so I can balance my encounters better
I'm also working on a Warhammer unit combat simulator so I can plan my armies better

and I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

And my IQ is 136.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.
I think you can't win... those sound like gamer credentials anyway.
Gee your such a nerd...whatever...come back when you have some real Geek credentials
What does it take to be classified a geek anyway? Chewing heads off chickens?

I dunno, the author still seems to assume that the girl will be fetching/cooking dinner, covering up the poor stupid shmoe when he falls asleep at his comp, and tolerating his annoying friends who treat her like a freak. He/she also seems to think that a gal is supposed to give a guy points for not calling her names or ignoring her needs in bed, which (at least to me) shows that guys are being held to insanely low standards here.

I think this is really pretty close to a lot of the standard icky stereotypes about men and women. Women are told to regard men as helplessly filthy morons who can't be expected to care for themselves (which is pretty mean toward men), and thus women are expected to basically play Mommy for any male they date (which is pretty mean toward women). Everybody loses, hooray!


True, the author certainly seems to express a lot of contempt for geek interests. She/he talks about how geeks have such nice stuff to talk about, but seems to regard their GEEK interests as lame. She/he also seems to assume that no girl would actually be interested in such activities, outside of using them to attract a geek male, and the implication is that geekdom isn't good enough for girls to be into it.
All very true, but I still think it's telling woman to treat geeks as doormats who can be used and abused and not view it as a relationship of equals.

Look through the list. Is there any bulletpoint in which the writer talks about what a woman can do for the geek? I can't see anything. It's all about how so desperate a geek would be to please her, they'll do everything and she needs not to anything in return.
Take the point about sex, which you interpret as meaning "a gal is supposed to give a guy points for not ignoring her needs in bed". And that's fair enough, but it misses that her (I'm assuming the writer is a her for convenience sake) rant about sex never says anything about the gal focusing on his needs in bed. Just letting the geek be there is apparently enough, but he's expected to do everything possible to satisfy her.

Point 8: "They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?"
Which you replied, "Um, why am I expected to provide dinner, in any form?". Again a semi-valid point. I say semi-valid, cause cooking for someone is a very nice gesture, as long as it isn't expected all the time and is reciprocated (that said, when I 1st starting going out with my current g/f I cooked all the time because she was, to be frank, a dreadful cook and I'm a damn good one if I do say so myself. Unlike her, I enjoy cooking and after 18 months have shown her how to enjoy it as well, and thus her cooking skills have improved markedly). But again, I think it misses the point ever so slightly. The writer's telling her readers to again not give a damn about their geek b/f. Dinner? throw a frozen pizza at them. No need to put any effort in or do any work. Because you wouldn't want to make them think you care about them or anything now, would you?

Or this one, "Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy." What about remembering the dates and such that may make HIM happy? Or are they so unimportant in her life that it's not worth the effort?

I could go on, but it's not worth the effort. We both agree, albeit for slightly different reasons, that the OP and whoever wrote the OP is full of shit and doesn't deserve to be in a relationship ever. Heaven forbid they inflict themselves and their seriously warped views about relationships upon anyone, especially some poor innocent geek who'd definitely come out of the relationship seriously screwed up and never wanting to have a g/f ever again.

All very true, but I still think it's telling woman to treat geeks as doormats who can be used and abused and not view it as a relationship of equals.
Again, providing a guy with dinner is "using and abusing" him? Cleaning up after his geek parties is "treating him like a doormat"?

Don't get me wrong, I certainly think it requires an unequal view of the relationship to treat a guy in this manner. It does require that you accept the idea that your male partner is helpless, a sort of absent-minded professor who just can't manage to pick out his own socks, the poor dear. But I don't think it's fair to describe that as treating him like a doormat, at least not JUST that.


Look through the list. Is there any bulletpoint in which the writer talks about what a woman can do for the geek? I can't see anything.

Why should there be? It's supposed to be a list of why a girl would want to date a geek. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you're trying to convince somebody that something is good for them, you probably don't want to provide them with a list of ways that THEY can serve IT. You want to give them a list of reasons why IT would improve life for THEM.


It's all about how so desperate a geek would be to please her, they'll do everything and she needs not to anything in return.

Except get him food, indulge his geek friends who gasp at her femaleness, and view it as a special perk if he refrains from calling her "fat."

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the list isn't insulting toward geek guys. It is. But let's not ignore the fact that even this list of supposed reasons to date a geek guy STILL makes the relationship sound like a chore for the girl! That's pretty lame.


Take the point about sex, which you interpret as meaning "a gal is supposed to give a guy points for not ignoring her needs in bed". And that's fair enough, but it misses that her (I'm assuming the writer is a her for convenience sake) rant about sex never says anything about the gal focusing on his needs in bed. Just letting the geek be there is apparently enough, but he's expected to do everything possible to satisfy her.

Again, I don't see why you think that's inappropriate, IN THIS CONTEXT. It's supposed to be a list of reasons for a girl to date a geek. "He will please you in bed" is a good item to have on that kind of list. "You will please him in bed" isn't as good a reason IN THIS CONTEXT.


Point 8: "They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?"
Which you replied, "Um, why am I expected to provide dinner, in any form?". Again a semi-valid point. I say semi-valid, cause cooking for someone is a very nice gesture, as long as it isn't expected all the time and is reciprocated (that said, when I 1st starting going out with my current g/f I cooked all the time because she was, to be frank, a dreadful cook and I'm a damn good one if I do say so myself. Unlike her, I enjoy cooking and after 18 months have shown her how to enjoy it as well, and thus her cooking skills have improved markedly).

Remember the context. This is supposed to be a list of reasons why a girl wants to date a guy, and it's STILL being assumed that SHE will provide dinner. How hard would it have been to simply say, "He'll just order himself a pizza" instead of "Can you call for pizza?"


But again, I think it misses the point ever so slightly. The writer's telling her readers to again not give a damn about their geek b/f. Dinner? throw a frozen pizza at them. No need to put any effort in or do any work. Because you wouldn't want to make them think you care about them or anything now, would you?

On this I think you're simply wrong. The writer states that the pizza is what the geek WANTS. Whether or not she's right about that, the idea here is that providing pizza is what please the geek. By providing pizza the girl is making the geek happy, not neglecting him.


Or this one, "Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy." What about remembering the dates and such that may make HIM happy? Or are they so unimportant in her life that it's not worth the effort?

I could go on, but it's not worth the effort. We both agree, albeit for slightly different reasons, that the OP and whoever wrote the OP is full of shit and doesn't deserve to be in a relationship ever. Heaven forbid they inflict themselves and their seriously warped views about relationships upon anyone, especially some poor innocent geek who'd definitely come out of the relationship seriously screwed up and never wanting to have a g/f ever again.
You're right that we agree on much of this, but I think it's bizarre how you think the problem is that this list doesn't focus enough on what the geek wants. That's, like, the opposite of the point of the list. :confused:

You both are killjoys. I banish you both to the Plane of Infinite Layers.

1.) While geeks and nerds may be awkward, they’re well-meaning 9 out of 10 times. That smooth dude with the sly grin and the spider hands? Wonder what HIS intentions are... plus, I’ve never had a geek guy not call me when he said he would. Score major points THERE.

Fuck this blatant stereotype. I am smooth and charismatic, and I am an huge dork. I own 3 warhammer armies, play WoW, D&D, and read fantasy novels when Im not reading my more...heavy reading (literature, political philosophy, history, etc).

2.) They’re useful. In this tech-savvy world, it’s great to have a b/f who can make your laptop, desktop, and just about anything else that plugs into a wall behave itself.

Zomg helps me I am a poor girl who knows nothin bout computerz! Fuck that. I have a female friend back at college who is more computer savy then I am.

3.) They’re more romantic than they’re given credit for. Ok true, their idea of romance might be to make up a spiffy web-page with all the reasons why they love you, with links to pics of you and sonnets and such... but hey. It lasts longer than flowers, plus you can show your friends.

Not only would not all girls want this, many might even find such a gesture...creepy.

4.) Due to their neglected status, there are plenty to choose from. You like ‘em tall and slender? There are plenty of geeks/nerds who are. You like ‘em smaller with more meat on their bones? Got that too.

Geeks are no more negelted then any other group. They can score dates just as easily as anyone else. Especially once you are out of middle school. Teen movies =/= real life.

5.) They’ve got brains. Come on now, how can intelligence be a bad thing?

The valadictorian at my high school was a baseball player and track runner.

6.) Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy. Due again to their neglected status, they’re more attentive than guys who “have more options”. Plus, with all that down time without a steady girlfriend, they’ll likely have mental lists of all the things they’d love to do once they GOT a girlfriend.

Because one must be an anti-social nerd to remember their siginificant other's birthday? Absurd. Oh, and they'll show their girl off like a trophy too? ZMOG what more could you ladies want?!?"

7.) Sex. Yep. Sex. I’m not really familiar with this myself, but I’ve friends who’ve been intimate with geek guys and it’s raves all around. They say a virgin wrote the Kama Sutra... all that time thinking about sex, imagining sex, dreaming about sex, (they are male after all) coupled with a desire to make you happy? Use your imagination.

Absurd. Knowledge of sex and preformance has nothing to do with what asinine social group you are placed into.

8.) They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?

GET IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A SAMICH WOMAN!

Seriously, not only do I, as a dork, like a lot of variety in my diet, but the idea that I need my woman to make me dinner, and that it is her obligation to do it, is pathetic. Plus, Im a better cook then my girl is.

9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines. You won’t have to worry much about your geek guy getting his “groove” on with club hotties because, frankly, he’ll be too busy rooting around under his computer wondering where that spare cable went.

I actually prefer bars.

You won’t have to worry about him flirting with other women because, 9 out of 10 times, he’ll zip right by them in a perfect b-line towards the nearest electronics store. I’ve seen this happen.

The insinuation that I like computers better then girls just because I am a dork is false.

Me: “Eww. Victoria Secret’s Models... They’re so skinny. How is that feminine? You can see her ribs!”
Geek Guy: “ooooooo...”
Me: “Hey!” *notices he is staring lustfully towards the computer store*
Geek Guy: “What?”
Me: “Never mind...”

Fail.

10.) Although he may not want to go to every outing with you, you can arrange swaps, as in, you’ll go to his Gamer Con dressed as an elf princess if he’ll take you to the ballet.

Make that a dwarf and you got yourself a date.

Plus, if he doesn’t want to go someplace with you, you won’t have to worry much about what he’s up to. You’ll probably come home to find him asleep on his keyboard in a sea of Mt. Dew cans with code blinking from the screen. It’s ok. He’s used to this. Just toss a blanket over him and turn out the light.

Sounds like a rockin friday night.

11.) His friends aren’t jerks. I can’t stress this enough. You’ll more likely get “Omg! A GIRL!! Can I see?!” than “Hey hot stuff back that ass up here and let me get some grub on...” They’re awkward geeks too and will, 9 times out of 10, treat you with the utmost respect and, more than likely, a note of awe. A cute girl picked one of their clan to date? It could happen to them! Hope! Drag some of your single girlfriends over, open up a pack of Mt. Dew, crack open the DnD set and get working. Nothing impresses geek guys more than a girl who can hack-n-slash (well ok maybe if she can code... a geek can dream).

Treating a girl like a mythical beast is idiotic as treating them like an object.

12.) They’re rarely if ever possessive. They trust you, so you can be yourself around them. You like to walk around the house in a ratty t-shirt for comfort? He won’t care. He does too! They won’t get pissy if you don’t wear make-up or don’t want to bother primping your hair. If you gain a few pounds, they won’t try their best to make you feel like crap.

If theyre so inclined to treat their women like a trophey, wouldnt they be more possesive?

13.) They’re usually very well educated. Physics majors and the like. See #5. You won’t have to listen to him blathering on about his car (ok maybe a little), he’ll have loads of other interesting things to talk about. Politics, world events, how much the chicken burgers down at the local place rock, so long as you douse them in hot sauce...

In my experiance, geeks are more politically apathetic then others.

14.) You’ll almost never have to hear, “Yaw dawg whazzap!!” plop out of their mouths. Unless it’s in jest. They spell properly, use correct punctuation, and are able to tell the difference between the toilet and the floor.

1n my xp g33kz talkz lik this cuz its epic lawlz. n00b.

They almost never get “wasted”, so you won’t have to worry about coming home to find him and his friends passed out on the floor amidst a pile of beer bottles. Mt. Dew cans, perhaps...

You mean I dont like beer because I like D&D?


15.) And the final reason why geeks and nerds make great boyfriends: They actually give a damn about you. Not how you look (though that’s a plus), not how skinny you are, not how much make-up you primp yourself up with, but they like you for you. That kind of thing lasts longer than “DaMN baby you got a fine ass!!!” Believe me.

You mean that one must be obsessed with computers to care about women? You fail.


Oh, and Tasha (fiancee) feels like this ------->:headbang:

As a geek I take exception to this list.
And lest you doubt my geek credentials:

During lunch today I went home and played EverQuest II.
I also sniped an eBay auction for a Warhammer model.
I have a D&D game in a couple weeks I need to prepare for (I'm the DM)
In my free time I'm currently working on a program to simulate combat between PCs and NPCs in D&D so I can balance my encounters better
I'm also working on a Warhammer unit combat simulator so I can plan my armies better

and I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

And my IQ is 136.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.

Yeah right

I can out nerd you any day of the week

I dont bother using computers play warhammer or whatever, I program industrial robots all day, making them drill holes in bits of metal thereby preventing them from going on a mass human killing spree...(well until my logic bombs say they can :eek:)

TV is another fav of mine.... cant say I've managed more than 30 mins this week before deciding its all written for morons and switching off :headbang: (shooting the TV is not good... I speak from experience )

As for preparing for DnD, check the box for..... rule book, map, dice, fiendish home designed traps, yupp all there

And yes I've had a bath

And my IQ is 145*

El-Presidente Boris

*That far out on the bell curve, genius and psychosis go hand in hand...;)

And my IQ is 145*

El-Presidente Boris

*That far out on the bell curve, genius and psychosis go hand in hand...;)

My IQ is also 145... and I'm a cop. How well will that make you sleep at night?

certainly one tasteless article, sounds like something from some girly magazine, apropos sexism well i guess this another form of segregation that would be more fitting in the 80's now a days nearly everyone has some extent of tech savy, and yes even females, they can vote as well disturbing isn't it :P

i would like to see myself as a nerd, and yet a nerd that does not fit this somewhat archaic and erroneous stereotype since i've had a couple of and am currently in a relationship...though not as fully committed as i should be(a year is a long time!!) i am proof that even a nerd can be just as much a jack ass as the next guy, we can be just as forgetful about dates and important agreements and conversations as any other dude, or at least i can.

my point is stop this apartheid or you will be assimilated, actually you have already been integrated but the process can be sped up, resistance is futile and all that nonsense

Fuck this blatant stereotype. I am smooth and charismatic, and I am an huge dork. I own 3 warhammer armies, play WoW, D&D, and read fantasy novels when Im not reading my more...heavy reading (literature, political philosophy, history, etc).


Only 3?

Poser.

Yeah right

I can out nerd you any day of the week

I dont bother using computers play warhammer or whatever, I program industrial robots all day, making them drill holes in bits of metal thereby preventing them from going on a mass human killing spree...(well until my logic bombs say they can :eek:)

Bah I'm a web developer.


TV is another fav of mine.... cant say I've managed more than 30 mins this week before deciding its all written for morons and switching off :headbang: (shooting the TV is not good... I speak from experience )


Well... except for Battlestar Galactica...


As for preparing for DnD, check the box for..... rule book, map, dice, fiendish home designed traps, yupp all there


Got miniatures? Got a set of stainless steel dice? (A Christmas gift from my wife the year before last)

Rule book singular? HAH I have 3 editions worth of D&D rulebooks complete with extras for my players. (eBay is a happy thing.)


And yes I've had a bath

And my IQ is 145*


Ok I concede on the IQ part.

...but only until my radio-thermal-nuclear-powered-brain-enhancing-device, made from a spoon, two cds and a paper plate is complete...

Only 3?

Poser.

No kidding there.

How on Earth is the first reaction LESS of a jerkish reaction?

Maybe it's because I'm a gamer and a life-long girl geek, but I find it intensely obnoxious to be around guys who act like femaleness is a crazy mutation. Yes, I'm female, I've noticed. Get over it. Asking me for cyberz or making jokes about my bewbs is so tired. I know you think you're being cute by telling me I'm an honorary "boy" because I beat you at Team Fortress, but I'd rather you just grow up and stop fixating on my girl-cooties.

Seconded to, like, the millionth degree. (I, too, have been declared an honorary boy as if that was some spectacular compliment. "Wow, even though you have boobies, you're sort of like a real person! That's amazing! Oh, and could you go refill our drinks?" Grr.)

And, for the record, elves are epic lame. Give me a guy who prefers orc women.

Hey, I like elves! *grumble* :p

...but only until my radio-thermal-nuclear-powered-brain-enhancing-device, made from a spoon, two cds and a paper plate is complete...

So...how's that comin'?

Only 3?

Poser.




lol. Warhammer. Just as addictive and only slightly cheaper then heroin.

Ok I concede on the IQ part.

...but only until my radio-thermal-nuclear-powered-brain-enhancing-device, made from a spoon, two cds and a paper plate is complete...


the hell do you think you are mcgyver!?

and i believe you forgot about the paper clip in your equation

So...how's that comin'?

I tried the same thing, but right now it just zaps people pretty badly.

I decided to stop there. :D

I tried the same thing, but right now it just zaps people pretty badly.

I decided to stop there. :D

Before or after you suck it in your ear and turned it on?

What's the difference between a nerd and a geek?

Neither of them have a date on Saturday night, but the nerd doesn't mind.

Before or after you suck it in your ear and turned it on?

:confused:...:eek:

:confused:...:eek:

So you went ahead and tried it, then?

So you went ahead and tried it, then?

:eek:...:cool:

:eek:...:cool:

Yeah, you did.

So...how's that comin'?

Well you know how it is... getting permits, licenses...

lol. Warhammer. Just as addictive and only slightly cheaper then heroin.

Amen, brother.

the hell do you think you are mcgyver!?

and i believe you forgot about the paper clip in your equation

I didn't forget. Everybody thinks you need a paper clip but that's how you know the true geniuses from the posers. The true geniuses understand that the paper clip is just a MacGuffin device meant to trick you into building a nonfunctional unit.

I didn't forget. Everybody thinks you need a paper clip but that's how you know the true geniuses from the posers. The true geniuses understand that the paper clip is just a MacGuffin device meant to trick you into building a nonfunctional unit.


:eek:dammit Jim without the paper clip you could rip a hole through space time and continuum....and the paper plate perhaps, yes the paper plate would defiantly rupture, unless you had two but thats impossible to get at this hour, it wont work it just wont :headbang:

*Administers virus to your computer. Changes all your grades to F's* :)

*sends a Bigby's Crushing Hand at New Manvir*

*Sacrifices New Manvir in a blood stanistic ritual to my DnD gods*

Yes! Spill the blood of the nonbeliever to Yondalla!

*beats up and takes lunch money*

:eek:dammit Jim without the paper clip you could rip a hole through space time and continuum....and the paper plate perhaps, yes the paper plate would defiantly rupture, unless you had two but thats impossible to get at this hour, it wont work it just wont :headbang:

"There's just no way to disrupt a gravimetric distortion of that magnitude!!!

...but... I have a theory."

-Mongomery Scott, Star Trek:Generations

Dammit Jim, I'm a cleric not a fighter!

Jesus saves!


...and takes half damage.

*beats up and takes lunch money*

*pick pockets*


*stealths away*


hehehe...

Jesus saves!


...and takes half damage.

Everybody elses dies!!!

*beats up and takes lunch money*

HEHEHe...you wouldnt believe it but in my schools it was the DnD gang the one that beated and took lunch money from those in the football team... :D:D

I always had dates Saturday nights. Sometimes even with women.

real women? HEntain Dating simulators dont count!

What's the difference between a nerd and a geek?

Neither of them have a date on Saturday night, but the nerd doesn't mind.

I always had dates Saturday nights. Sometimes even with women.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.
well, it would be easy to beat someone with one of their arms tied behind your back. :p

I was thinking TNG because it had Warf in it, and I forgot he was on DS9 because I never really got into DS9...

Or any of the 'Treks for that matter.ahem... the names Worf. :D

Okay, seriously, as a female who spends a lot of time on the internet, who works with computers, who plays video games, reads sci-fi, speaks imaginary languages, who was a math and science prodigy, who plays D&D, who even owns glasses held together with tape, and who knows Weird Al's "White and Nerdy" by heart seeing as it's basically all true of herself, could people please, PLEASE stop telling me I don't exist? :pHAH! You don't and you must prove it by giving me...
1) your pic
2) your address
3) a list of your likes and dislikes
4) what you consider a fun date
5) one weekend free with me.






please?

If the Book of Erotic Fantasy comes out, I'm leaving.If (http://www.amazon.com/Book-Erotic-Fantasy-Gwendolyn-Kestrel/dp/1588463990)?

Got miniatures? Got a set of stainless steel dice? (A Christmas gift from my wife the year before last) while I never got into warhammer, I do have dice AND the original crayons that came with it so you could fill in the engraved numbers on those dice.

Rule book singular? HAH I have 3 editions worth of D&D rulebooks complete with extras for my players. (eBay is a happy thing.) yep. D&D, Lace & Steal, CoC, Torg, Starfire, GammaWorld, Battletech, Cyberpunk, Pendragon, etc...

I even have The Worlds Largest Dundeon (http://www.amazon.com/Largest-Dungeon-Dragons-Fantasy-Roleplaying/dp/1594720290).

*pick pockets*


*stealths away*


hehehe...

*Backstabs KoL with a Ballista*

*waits to see who gets the reference.* :p

HAH! You don't and you must prove it by giving me...
1) your pic
2) your address
3) a list of your likes and dislikes
4) what you consider a fun date
5) one weekend free with me.



6) your measures

HEHEHe...you wouldnt believe it but in my schools it was the DnD gang the one that beated and took lunch money from those in the football team... :D:D

well Duh...

think about it, the football team has a ball, padding and the ability to tackle.

the DnD gang would have the battleaxes, Flails, Morningstars, and not to mention the bows and arrows that would hit them long before they could get into melee range. :cool:

and should they get close enough to grapple? you got the flanking and backstabbing skills of the theives and assassins.

and at the end of the battle, the bards can keep the tale alive long after the jocks limp off. :D

Jesus saves!


...and takes half damage.
No way, that's completely ridiculous!


...Jesus has Evasion

No way, that's completely ridiculous!


...Jesus has Evasion

I dont think he has evation... he couldnt evade the lance of antiquia...

oh wait he was crucified...that means pinned...and flat footed on the cross...he couldnt evade..

MAkes sense

I dont think he has evation... he couldnt evade the lance of antiquia...

oh wait he was crucified...that means pinned...and flat footed on the cross...he couldnt evade..

MAkes sense

uh... no, he wasn't flatfooted on the cross, but he did have his Dex Bonus negated.

and the spear hit could be considered a coup de grace.

HOLD ON THERE!

evasion!?!?!

wouldnt Jesus had to be a rogue for that!?!?!?1

BLASPHEMY!!!!

:mp5::mp5::mp5:

HOLD ON THERE!

evasion!?!?!

wouldnt Jesus had to be a rogue for that!?!?!?1

BLASPHEMY!!!!

:mp5::mp5::mp5:



Jesus is a paladin. He casted Lay on Hands a lot.

Jesus is a paladin. He casted Lay on Hands a lot.

He also need cleric levels...and some monk levels too (you know to walk on water and stuff)

Jesus: Level 50 Paladin, Level 50 Cleric, Level 30 Sorcerer, Level 10 Heirophant (prestige class

He also need cleric levels...and some monk levels too (you know to walk on water and stuff)

I cant remember. Can any class in D&D self res in later editions?

HOLD ON THERE!

evasion!?!?!

wouldnt Jesus had to be a rogue for that!?!?!?1

BLASPHEMY!!!!

:mp5::mp5::mp5:

Nope, I believe Monks get it.

and there are facets to Rogues that are not tied in with theivery. Acrobatics and other 'street performers' were professions of 'Rogues'.

then again, we know that when Jesus returns, he would be a rogue.

for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night

Nope, I believe Monks get it.

and there are facets to Rogues that are not tied in with theivery. Acrobatics and other 'street performers' were professions of 'Rogues'.

then again, we know that when Jesus returns, he would be a rogue.

Oh I see... so after getting killed Jesus learned his lesson and chose some rogue levels to get evasion. Makes sense.

Oh I see... so after getting killed Jesus learned his lesson and chose some rogue levels to get evasion. Makes sense.

Jesus's group must have had a crappy healer.


"HEAL FFS!!!"

Jesus's group must have had a crappy healer.


"HEAL FFS!!!"

Jesus party truly sucked.... they were 12... one a traitor...and where were the other 11 when Jesus needed them?

Im my table we would never let a friend get crucified with out a fight!

ok. people call my boyfriend a geek (even though he isnt) and what you people are describing as a "geek" is way "geekier" than anything about him!
so im glad to say that my bf isn't a geek! :eek:

Oh I see... so after getting killed Jesus learned his lesson and chose some rogue levels to get evasion. Makes sense.

Monks get evasion at higher levels.
Rangers also get Evasion

and once you change your class, you cannot take 'monk' again.

so when Jesus (who was resurrecte by divine providence) returns, he'll take a level in Rogue. but he's already either a monk or Ranger. Ranger seems more likely because
1) he spent many a time in the wilderness
2) birds like him
3) healing ability
4) as long as he stayed in the wilderness, the Centurions couldn't find him

Monks get evasion at higher levels.
Rangers also get Evasion

and once you change your class, you cannot take 'monk' again.

so when Jesus (who was resurrecte by divine providence) returns, he'll take a level in Rogue. but he's already either a monk or Ranger. Ranger seems more likely because
1) he spent many a time in the wilderness
2) birds like him
3) healing ability
4) as long as he stayed in the wilderness, the Centurions couldn't find him

Can you cite the part of the bible that supports your theory?

Monks get evasion at higher levels.
Rangers also get Evasion

and once you change your class, you cannot take 'monk' again.

so when Jesus (who was resurrecte by divine providence) returns, he'll take a level in Rogue. but he's already either a monk or Ranger. Ranger seems more likely because
1) he spent many a time in the wilderness
2) birds like him
3) healing ability
4) as long as he stayed in the wilderness, the Centurions couldn't find him

But Jesus didn't have an animal companion, and Rangers not divine casters: how could Jesus not be a divine caster?

Monk does not necessarily represent clerical or divine learning, but a devotion to a path. Mind you, that sounds like Jesus, but monks are too...pugilistic for Jesus.

I submit that Jesus was a Favored Soul (Complete Divine). They are basically divine sorcerers. They spontaneously cast divine spells, rather than study and pray for them like clerics.

Favored souls are often loners, wandering
the land serving their deities. They are welcomed by their
churches but treated as unusual and are sometimes misunderstood.

Tell me that doesn't sound like Jesus:
Has the innate ability to cast divinely.
Loner.
Misunderstood.
Emissaries of their deity and aloof from the church.

Can you cite the part of the bible that supports your theory?not right now, at work. :p

1) he spent many a time in the wilderness (he travelled and there was the time he was tempted in the Desert)
2) birds like him (when he was baptised, a bird (dove) landed on his shoulder)
3) healing ability (he healed in the bible, even did Rez's)
4) as long as he stayed in the wilderness, the Centurions couldn't find him (and they didn't. even tho there was a large bounty on his head. he was caught in a city and it took one of his own to betray him.)
:p

So that speaks of either Ranger or Paladin, but Paladins don't get Evasion. so a Monk - cleric makes sense. monk first then cleric. :p

snip

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Doesn't matter. The lance would be an attack roll. Evasion only applies for AOE spells. What you guys are thinking of is Uncanny Dodge (and Improved UD).

Either way, I don't think there's anything to suggest that Jesus would have either one. Although judicious and not entirely legal use of scry might make it look like he had both.

I believe you are blasphemers...

So I have decided to excomunicate you both.

The idea that Jesus had uncanny dodge will be anathema from now on!


Dont make me call a crusade! :mad:

HOLD ON THERE!

evasion!?!?!

wouldnt Jesus had to be a rogue for that!?!?!?1

BLASPHEMY!!!!

:mp5::mp5::mp5:
Actually, I was wrong. Jesus is a Divine Oracle, he had Prescient Sense.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets.
... it had laser torpedoes and the characters were cardboard cut-outs. Eugh.
However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.
Aye, boobs. Good times. Although this whole pish about being the harbinger of death and such = feh. I wish it would take itself a wee bit less seriously.

I love the D&D Jesus discussion!

HEHEHe...you wouldnt believe it but in my schools it was the DnD gang the one that beated and took lunch money from those in the football team... :D:D

By "Football Team" you must mean a bunch of nerds playing Madden, right?:D

*Backstabs KoL with a Ballista*

*waits to see who gets the reference.* :p

Might that be "The Gamers" (pt. 2)?

Correct, except for the "Pt 2" bit. :D

What part is it?

Might that be "The Gamers" (pt. 2)?
Correct, except for the "Pt 2" bit. :D

DM: "You're going to backstab him with a ballista?"
Nimble: Uhuh!
DM: "A f#%king seige weapon?"
Nimble: Uh huh!
DM: "There's gotta be something against this in the rule book..."

By "Football Team" you must mean a bunch of nerds playing Madden, right?:D

He did say that you wouldn't believe it.

The more I think about it, I'm not actually a geek. If anything, I fall more in to the Frasier Crane camp...

...wait a minute.

13.) They’re usually very well educated. Physics majors and the like. See #5. You won’t have to listen to him blathering on about his car (ok maybe a little), he’ll have loads of other interesting things to talk about. Politics, world events, how much the chicken burgers down at the local place rock, so long as you douse them in hot sauce...


I wouldn't say I qualify as a nerd at all, but if that didn't say "physics", that nails me down perfectly. I even love chicken burgers with hot sauce....lots of hot sauce. I mean I really do douse things in hot sauce.

wow, stereotypes! Hooray!

wow, stereotypes! Hooray!

As a typical nerd, I must say I liked this joke! :D

I'm a geeky nerd, and I'm STILL not worth it. :p

I've read other similar essays to the one quoted in the OP. Some of them probably were written by lonely nerds. Others were probably written by non-nerd girls.
During lunch today I went home and played EverQuest II.
I also sniped an eBay auction for a Warhammer model.
I have a D&D game in a couple weeks I need to prepare for (I'm the DM)
In my free time I'm currently working on a program to simulate combat between PCs and NPCs in D&D so I can balance my encounters better
I'm also working on a Warhammer unit combat simulator so I can plan my armies better

and I LOVE Battlestar Galactica.

And my IQ is 136.

In a stand-up nerd contest I can take anybody here with one arm tied behind my back.
Bullcrap. I am a nerd lord. I logged well over a thousand active hours in the DM chair during high school. Majored in physics, math, and philosophy in college... still play tabletop when I can. I've done SWRPG now, too.

WH40K is more mainstream than you think, along with EQ and WOW; I know tons of people who play those who are only marginally nerdy.

I play Battletech, which I contend is at least as nerdy, and possibly more nerdy. I redesigned the existing battle value system for my own purposes in order to better balance games - primarily to fix its little non-monotonicity bugs, but it turned out their was a systematic balance issue undervaluing accuracy aids.

IQ is higher, too, if you care about that.

I even waste time arguing on the internet about everything from the serious to the absurd - and in real life, I will attempt to explain or solve almost any puzzle posed to me. Even the ones that people don't realize they're posing to me. Today, I offered explanations as to why someone's bluetooth cell phone might be turning their words into noisy, difficult to understand blurbs of sound.
Chicks can be geeks. Known as geekettes.

I used to date a geek who was a guy before I came out. It was a disaster. But he wasn't that smart (His IQ was 120...mine was 131 when I was ten years old) and it didn't help that I liked other women.

P.S. I also like Battlestar Galactica, but prefer the original for the Daggets. However the new Starbuck has fun qualities.
FYI, IQ is [hypothetically, at least] an age-invariant quantity. The test is scaled according to the age of the taker, and is ideally taken around the age of ten.

My IQ is also 145... and I'm a cop. How well will that make you sleep at night?


Very well thank you
Because for every evil super mastermind there has to be a smart cop out there to stop him..... although your encounter with the laser cutting device maybe painful, extended and result in you losing some height..... and weight :D

El-Presidente Boris

<<<off to irradiate Fort Knox in an attempt to crash the world's economy :cool:

i told them that without the paper clip and the two plates everything would rupture, i told them so and now look where this topic is now!:headbang:


there is only one chance for salvation....i must go back in time and kill.... mcgyver!....with my towel!!!

(confused? so am i stay tuned....this will show ya to mess with time and paper)

Just to be clear. There is a difference between geeks and nerds. Geeks are usually Tech savy, socially awkward, extremely smart, but only in one area, only talk with other geeks, and extremely clumsy. (Yes this is severe stereotyping, plz dont be hating me geeks.) Nerds, on the other hand, are usually smart all-around, interested by everything, very outspoken in class discussions, talk often to everybody about stuff no one cares about, help others with their homework just to seem to fit in, and are coordinated. (note: I am a little biased, as I'm am somewhat a nerd.)

EDIT: Nerds supposed to be good at English I think, but I have some typos. I'll just leave 'em for people who like checking that sort of thing. Nerds, that is.

it has a higher level of weirdos who spend all day alone indoors never getting the light of day?

The light of day is overrated and you can absorb UV radiation through a window; it doesn't count as "alone" if you're socialising albeit not face-to-face; "weirdos" is a relative term.

having fun is what people like thus:

going outside = adventure = fun guy [insert fungi joke]

Going outside isn't really necessary to have fun. You can have fun outside, but you can have it inside, too. Outside is overrated. Why would we even have inside if outside was so good?

fleeing to a fantasy land signifies mental illness :)

Or that you're an escapist. Everyone has ways of ignoring the real world. Some people smoke or get drunk, others read fantasy literature, others immerse themselves in mindless reality TV and soap operas.

Seriously, I don't know how I'd cope without having fantasy worlds to flee to. I hate the real world enough sometimes that I'd just rather not live in it, and to be honest it doesn't interest me a smidgen. The world is a fairly depressing place unless you have something to keep you preoccupied enough that you don't notice.

Bullcrap. I am a nerd lord. I logged well over a thousand active hours in the DM chair during high school. Majored in physics, math, and philosophy in college... still play tabletop when I can. I've done SWRPG now, too.


I see your DM during high school and raise you continuing to DM even now. (In fact, my group meets here this coming Friday for our normal session.)

SWRPG, done it. Did the MMO too and did Bounty Hunter the Old School hard way!


WH40K is more mainstream than you think, along with EQ and WOW; I know tons of people who play those who are only marginally nerdy.

EQ, EQ2, SWG, Earth & Beyond


I play Battletech, which I contend is at least as nerdy, and possibly more nerdy. I redesigned the existing battle value system for my own purposes in order to better balance games - primarily to fix its little non-monotonicity bugs, but it turned out their was a systematic balance issue undervaluing accuracy aids.


Play Battletech, Built a computer program to create characters for the accompanying RPG (MechWarrior), Played (and beat) MechWarrior IV (All incarnations of it) and Played (and rejected) WizKids' MechWarrior Dark Age Clickybase game.


IQ is higher, too, if you care about that.


Granted


I even waste time arguing on the internet about everything from the serious to the absurd - and in real life, I will attempt to explain or solve almost any puzzle posed to me. Even the ones that people don't realize they're posing to me. Today, I offered explanations as to why someone's bluetooth cell phone might be turning their words into noisy, difficult to understand blurbs of sound.


Yepper. I'll see your tech savy and raise you a guy who hasn't purchased a pre-built computer since the age of 9.

Nerds, on the other hand, are usually smart all-around, interested by everything, very outspoken in class discussions, talk often to everybody about stuff no one cares about, help others with their homework just to seem to fit in, and are coordinated. (note: I am a little biased, as I'm am somewhat a nerd.)

EDIT: Nerds supposed to be good at English I think, but I have some typos. I'll just leave 'em for people who like checking that sort of thing. Nerds, that is.

I do all of this stuff, though the homework thing is only done because I genuinely like to help people out, and help them to understand the mechanics behind, well, everything.

Though I'm also very athletic and socially outgoing, and nobody's ever called me a geek or a nerd.

It worked for me. :)

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By my definitions:
Lisa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Simpson) and Martin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Prince) are nerds. Database (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Elementary_School_Students#Database) is a geek.

Nope, I believe Monks get it.

Is there anything those… those bastards don't get?

I disagree:
And in turn, I disagree with you.

1) they tend to have emotional issues
Lots of people have emotional issues, nerds have them and so do guys who are into more "regular" things.
2) more likely to not stick up for you
Bullshit. Nobody is a more rabid fanboy of my ladyfriend than I am. I decked my housemate, who is a friend of mine, for insulting her.
3) expect you to be mom
Maybe in that I don't mind being given chores to do, as long as she's helping, too. Unless it's something that makes her hot just watching me do, like mowing the lawn.
4) have the fashion and personal hygiene levels of an anteater
I shower daily, use plentiful amounts of shampoo and soap, and brush my teeth thoroughly. For everyday wear, I generally wear what tons of other college students wear: a t-shirt and jeans. I do, however, own several pairs of khakis, a blazer and a tuxedo for occasions that require a bit more in terms of attire.
5) overall shy and more stay at home
Sometimes. I like going to the movies as much as the next person, though, and I love going to shows (you know, concerts). I do like a quiet evening at home, though. I don't think that's such a bad thing.


so their boring :confused:
If going "clubbing" is exciting, then I'd prefer being boring.



jokes on you the Mrs has never had an orgasm :p
I'm afraid you are mistaken. Though I am best at getting her off with my tongue.

Nerd credentials:
I read fantasy books
I like anime, and have been to Fanimecon
I was in band in high school, for all four years.
And, I post on this site. On the RP forums.

I came across this while stumbling, and thought it worthy of posting. This is the right forum for this, right?

No, Railpage Australia is the best forum for this type of posting, lol

In the wide world of dating, there are many options. Do you go for the flashy guy with the smooth smile, or the dude in the corner typing away on his laptop? The following are reasons why I think my fellow females should pay more attention to the quiet geeks and nerds, and less attention to the flashy boys.

Looking at it from a "rules of nature" perspective, the females would almost certainly be going for the flashy guy with the smooth smile, since as far as the hotness scales go, the dude in the corner typing code on his laptop (these days, many non-geeks/nerds have laptops) does not even rate.

As I have said before, everyone desires to get the "hottest" person of the other gender possible. Of course, that means that geeks/nerds will be left with the lowest common denominator

1.) While geeks and nerds may be awkward, they’re well-meaning 9 out of 10 times. That smooth dude with the sly grin and the spider hands? Wonder what HIS intentions are... plus, I’ve never had a geek guy not call me when he said he would. Score major points THERE.

Well meaning doesn't make anyone hot, and in fact, it generally doesn't result in action of any kind. Who gets the action? The smooth dude, or the geek/nerd? Of course you know the answer, and females keep on falling for the smooth dudes, so it is pretty obvious that they don't mind them.

Also, yes, while the geek guys call; it again doesn't compensate for their lack of "hotness"

2.) They’re useful. In this tech-savvy world, it’s great to have a b/f who can make your laptop, desktop, and just about anything else that plugs into a wall behave itself.

Most guys can do that these days; the geek/nerd will be trying to convince you that Firefox is better than Internet Explorer.

3.) They’re more romantic than they’re given credit for. Ok true, their idea of romance might be to make up a spiffy web-page with all the reasons why they love you, with links to pics of you and sonnets and such... but hey. It lasts longer than flowers, plus you can show your friends.

Do females really want the whole world to know that some geek/nerd loves them? Being honest, it destroys a females social standing, and some people like to keep their relationships discrete, so they wouldn't be too keen.

4.) Due to their neglected status, there are plenty to choose from. You like ‘em tall and slender? There are plenty of geeks/nerds who are. You like ‘em smaller with more meat on their bones? Got that too.

Yes, but most "hot" females have that wide selection anyway; it is the "middling" females that may have to start looking at geeks/nerds if they want companionship.

5.) They’ve got brains. Come on now, how can intelligence be a bad thing?

Intelligence =/= Hotness; I have learnt that through years of experience

6.) Most are quite good at remembering dates. Like birthdates and such, especially if they know it’ll make you happy. Due again to their neglected status, they’re more attentive than guys who “have more options”. Plus, with all that down time without a steady girlfriend, they’ll likely have mental lists of all the things they’d love to do once they GOT a girlfriend.

But then, do females really want to get a guy that has been dreaming of everything they would do? That could be somewhat concerning. Also, they may be good at remembering dates, and so on, but does that equal hotness? I didn't think so

7.) Sex. Yep. Sex. I’m not really familiar with this myself, but I’ve friends who’ve been intimate with geek guys and it’s raves all around. They say a virgin wrote the Kama Sutra... all that time thinking about sex, imagining sex, dreaming about sex, (they are male after all) coupled with a desire to make you happy? Use your imagination.

WTF! I have heard plenty of anecdotes that females prefer experienced guys to virgins. Case closed

8.) They’re relatively low-maintenance. Most can be fueled on pizza, Twinkies and Mt Dew. No complicated dinners needed here, so if you’re not the best cook, eh. Can you order a pizza?

That is probably an advantage in favour of geeks/nerds

9.) Most frequent bars as often as slugs frequent salt mines. You won’t have to worry much about your geek guy getting his “groove” on with club hotties because, frankly, he’ll be too busy rooting around under his computer wondering where that spare cable went. You won’t have to worry about him flirting with other women because, 9 out of 10 times, he’ll zip right by them in a perfect b-line towards the nearest electronics store. I’ve seen this happen.
Me: “Eww. Victoria Secret’s Models... They’re so skinny. How is that feminine? You can see her ribs!”
Geek Guy: “ooooooo...”
Me: “Hey!” *notices he is staring lustfully towards the computer store*
Geek Guy: “What?”
Me: “Never mind...”

That conversation would be disturbing at best, and yet again, I suppose that geeks/nerds not going to bars would be another advantage for them, although, once again, it comes down to whether the female is "hot" or "middling." The hot ones shouldn't be too worried, unless their boyfriend is hotter than them. The middling ones should be worried though.

10.) Although he may not want to go to every outing with you, you can arrange swaps, as in, you’ll go to his Gamer Con dressed as an elf princess if he’ll take you to the ballet. Plus, if he doesn’t want to go someplace with you, you won’t have to worry much about what he’s up to. You’ll probably come home to find him asleep on his keyboard in a sea of Mt. Dew cans with code blinking from the screen. It’s ok. He’s used to this. Just toss a blanket over him and turn out the light.

However, shouldn't all relationships be about give and take? In fact, considering that this website is attempting to promote relationships that go against the established grain, there would probably be more of an imbalance as the geek/nerd guy goes to all the hot females stuff, and the hot female doesn't go with the geek/nerd guy to his stuff

11.) His friends aren’t jerks. I can’t stress this enough. You’ll more likely get “Omg! A GIRL!! Can I see?!” than “Hey hot stuff back that ass up here and let me get some grub on...” They’re awkward geeks too and will, 9 times out of 10, treat you with the utmost respect and, more than likely, a note of awe. A cute girl picked one of their clan to date? It could happen to them! Hope! Drag some of your single girlfriends over, open up a pack of Mt. Dew, crack open the DnD set and get working. Nothing impresses geek guys more than a girl who can hack-n-slash (well ok maybe if she can code... a geek can dream).

Yes, hope. The truth of the matter is that most of the nerd/geek guys will probably end up with another nerd/geek. Again, this is something that a middling girl would more likely be worried about; a "hot" girl would be getting awe and utmost respect from pretty much everybody.

12.) They’re rarely if ever possessive. They trust you, so you can be yourself around them. You like to walk around the house in a ratty t-shirt for comfort? He won’t care. He does too! They won’t get pissy if you don’t wear make-up or don’t want to bother primping your hair. If you gain a few pounds, they won’t try their best to make you feel like crap.

I would suggest that nerds/geeks are going to be more possessive than a normal guy with more choices. Of course females can be themselves around nerd/geek guys more so than with other guys, but again, do females really care? I doubt it

13.) They’re usually very well educated. Physics majors and the like. See #5. You won’t have to listen to him blathering on about his car (ok maybe a little), he’ll have loads of other interesting things to talk about. Politics, world events, how much the chicken burgers down at the local place rock, so long as you douse them in hot sauce...

You can pick up a newspaper, use Wikipedia, et cetera to find out about stuff. Of course, if you want intelligent conversation, there are many ways and means to get it. You don't need a geek/nerd to get it

14.) You’ll almost never have to hear, “Yaw dawg whazzap!!” plop out of their mouths. Unless it’s in jest. They spell properly, use correct punctuation, and are able to tell the difference between the toilet and the floor. They almost never get “wasted”, so you won’t have to worry about coming home to find him and his friends passed out on the floor amidst a pile of beer bottles. Mt. Dew cans, perhaps...

Yes, next excuse

15.) And the final reason why geeks and nerds make great boyfriends: They actually give a damn about you. Not how you look (though that’s a plus), not how skinny you are, not how much make-up you primp yourself up with, but they like you for you. That kind of thing lasts longer than “DaMN baby you got a fine ass!!!” Believe me.

I am sorry, but that line reeks of bull dung. Everyone cares about the hotness of their potential mate. The geek cares just as much as the jock, but I would say that the geek doesn't show it.

Basically, why my gfs have been pretty smokin', tall, rail-like science nerd appearance. They've all ascribed to this complex theory.

Oh, and orgasms. Giving a girl multiple orgasms really helps keep them around.

As a guy that falls in the geek/nerd category, I would say that I do not subscribe to this complex theory because from my observations over the years, it just doesn't happen like this. Maybe people need to read some proper material to see what I mean, material such as this Time Magazine Article

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1615172,00.html

I do all of this stuff, though the homework thing is only done because I genuinely like to help people out, and help them to understand the mechanics behind, well, everything.

Though I'm also very athletic and socially outgoing, and nobody's ever called me a geek or a nerd.

Exactly! You are a good example of a nerd! If people realized what nerds are, it wouldn't be used as an insult. The only problem is when people lump nerds and geeks together. I, for example, will watch some anime, do the stuff I mentioned earlier, but I also play football and I'm generally accepted everywhere. Most people don't even notice nerds for what they are, which is good.

As I have said before, everyone desires to get the "hottest" person of the other gender possible. Of course, that means that geeks/nerds will be left with the lowest common denominator

...why?

Well meaning doesn't make anyone hot, and in fact, it generally doesn't result in action of any kind.

Apparently, I'm not anyone. Interesting.

Who gets the action? The smooth dude, or the geek/nerd?

Well, I can't speak for who gets "the" action but I know who's gotten my action...

Also, yes, while the geek guys call; it again doesn't compensate for their lack of "hotness"

I am so confused by this idea that geekiness precludes hotness, or, for that matter, that the latter trumps the former.

Do females really want the whole world to know that some geek/nerd loves them? Being honest, it destroys a females social standing, and some people like to keep their relationships discrete, so they wouldn't be too keen.

At least three of my female friends own "I <3 MY GEEK" t-shirts. As, for that matter, do at least two of my male friends. Why on earth would that destroy their social standing? I was always proud as heck to be seen out and about with my ex-geekyboys.

Yes, but most "hot" females have that wide selection anyway; it is the "middling" females that may have to start looking at geeks/nerds if they want companionship.

..............ahahahahahahahaha. You're funny.


Intelligence =/= Hotness; I have learnt that through years of experience

You could not be more wrong. Really, really, really, really. Really. REALLY.


I am sorry, but that line reeks of bull dung. Everyone cares about the hotness of their potential mate. The geek cares just as much as the jock, but I would say that the geek doesn't show it.

...and everyone defines hotness different ways, you know. My ex was not what most people would consider a typical studmuffin - he was, among other things, about 5'6'', pale as a snowdrift, with Austin Powers chest hair and spindly chicken legs. I could not be in the room with him while he was playing the piano without wanting to tear his clothes off and do assorted X-rated things to him. :p

Not that anyone cares, but I side with Poliwanacraca. I'm going out with a hot chick, and I'm somewhat nerdy (I'm in a science club for the love of god!) but she likes me anyway.........hmmm.

Is there anything those… those bastards don't get?

use of armor, and spells and the inability to multiclass. :p

It seems to have been written by a chick. Can chicks be geeks?

Im a 'chick' and i consider myself a 'nerd'. Although i am extremely attractive and charming.

ha.

I like nerds. We nerds should unite.

Im a 'chick' and i consider myself a 'nerd'. Although i am extremely attractive and charming.


Post your pic and we will be the judge of how attractive you are. As for charming the jury is still out.;)

Im a 'chick' and i consider myself a 'nerd'. Although i am extremely attractive and charming.

ha.

I like nerds. We nerds should unite.

If you are extremely attractive and charming, I, as a nerd, definitely wouldn't mind uniting.

If you are extremely attractive and charming, I, as a nerd, definitely wouldn't mind uniting.

Do nerds have sex like the regular folk?

I see your DM during high school and raise you continuing to DM even now. (In fact, my group meets here this coming Friday for our normal session.)

SWRPG, done it. Did the MMO too and did Bounty Hunter the Old School hard way!



EQ, EQ2, SWG, Earth & Beyond



Play Battletech, Built a computer program to create characters for the accompanying RPG (MechWarrior), Played (and beat) MechWarrior IV (All incarnations of it) and Played (and rejected) WizKids' MechWarrior Dark Age Clickybase game.



Granted



Yepper. I'll see your tech savy and raise you a guy who hasn't purchased a pre-built computer since the age of 9.

Dude. My kids are named after Star Trek characters, I have a bat'leth on my fireplace and I know how to use it. I have a computer program for my grocery list that works on a database I wrote myself. I taught myself Klingon and last year our Christmas card was nearly written entirely in it. I out geek you... and I'M A GIRL.
I win. you lose. get over it.

Post your pic and we will be the judge of how attractive you are. As for charming the jury is still out.;)

Ha Ha. ok.

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/KAYLAJADE_bucket/?action=view&current=facebook1.jpg

Do nerds have sex like the regular folk?

We sure do! At least 10 times a week.

Too much information?

Do nerds have sex like the regular folk?

No. It's generally much more awkward and sometimes it involves fictional languages.

No. It's generally much more awkward and sometimes it involves fictional languages.

'In case of an incounter with opposite sex, LOL nervously, tell them you have to LFG and shrug if they don't have anything to auction to you.'

Posted my photo /\ like you requested. Judge away! :D

Ha Ha. ok.

http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r112/KAYLAJADE_bucket/?action=view&current=facebook1.jpg

Yeah I would probably give you a second look if single of course. ;)

Edit: Something tells me you are the take charge type in bed. This is the real reason you like nerds. They don't ask questions they just do as you say.