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Creationists plan British theme park - Page 2

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The Brevious
18-12-2007, 07:56
It looks more like they're trying to get the government to promote religion. They want the money to pay for the creation of religious propaganda. The goal is prosylitization not entertainment.

I don't think the government should approve their request for government dollars.Seconded.
Intestinal fluids
18-12-2007, 08:05
This pretty much settles the question of creation. Granting of life from proverbial dust isnt a Gods power after all. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/16/AR2007121601900_3.html

When your going to credit God with the power to make life then it turns out in a few years kids in science class will be able to whip up unique new life forms made to order, it makes claims of creationists a bit sillier sounding in my humble opinion.Or is God just some dude who discovered the recipie before we did?
Ifreann
18-12-2007, 11:30
Indeed. Go to church too much and you'll fall over and vomit.

I almost did that once. Well, I did the latter, I managed not to fall over.
Ferwickshire
18-12-2007, 17:48
This is one of the most disgusting things I've heard in a while.
If anything from the creationists comes to fruition, I will openly protest. I didn't even know we had these sort of people in England, 's quite upsetting. :(
This might be a puppet
18-12-2007, 17:52
It looks more like they're trying to get the government to promote religion. They want the money to pay for the creation of religious propaganda. The goal is prosylitization not entertainment.

I don't think the government should approve their request for government dollars.

*Ahem!*

Maybe you'd better re-read the story. The proposed park would be in England, not in the USA: We don't use 'dollars'...
Levee en masse
18-12-2007, 19:33
German Nightmare or m'self might be able to hook you up if you want.
LG's got a few too, but they're .... racy.
:p

Racy's ok as long as it convey the correct sentiment.

*nods*
Dakini
18-12-2007, 19:39
Holy Land Experience, where they can see a bloodied Jesus forced to carry his cross by snarling Roman soldiers.
And the people who go there would probably think me morbid if I thought about things half as gruesome... but who the fuck makes torture a theme park?
Intestinal fluids
18-12-2007, 19:47
but who the fuck makes torture a theme park?

Ever try watching some of those Disney movies?
The Alma Mater
18-12-2007, 19:48
Ever try watching some of those Disney movies?

I quite liked their latest "let us mock our own cliches" one ;)
Dakini
18-12-2007, 20:34
Just annoyed you people have made all these claims about creationism killing people and not backing it up.
So a generation of kids goes through school being taught that evolution doesn't happen and that god created everything. Then we end up with biochemists and doctors who fail to understand how germs mutate and adapt to antibiotics, how to treat illnesses et c. Then you end up with a lot of people dying because everyone fails to understand anything about biology.

Ok, you guys got nothing. I see your hate is unfounded. I was never for creationism, but thanks to you guys I am more tolerant to it than ever before.
Bullshit. It was reasonable discussion before you got here (none of this hate you're on about).
Hydesland
18-12-2007, 20:39
So a generation of kids goes through school being taught that evolution doesn't happen and that god created everything. Then we end up with biochemists and doctors who fail to understand how germs mutate and adapt to antibiotics, how to treat illnesses et c. Then you end up with a lot of people dying because everyone fails to understand anything about biology.


*Wahhh waaahhh macro evolution not micro evolution waaah waaah*
The Alma Mater
18-12-2007, 20:43
*Wahhh waaahhh macro evolution not micro evolution waaah waaah*

Very good. Have an irreducible complex cookie.
Deus Malum
18-12-2007, 20:45
*Wahhh waaahhh macro evolution not micro evolution waaah waaah*

Which basically comes down to, "We'll keep the science that keeps us alive, but discard everything our imaginary friend disagrees with." *nod*

Not unlike Neo-Luddites, really.
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:35
So a generation of kids goes through school being taught that evolution doesn't happen and that god created everything. Then we end up with biochemists and doctors who fail to understand how germs mutate and adapt to antibiotics, how to treat illnesses et c. Then you end up with a lot of people dying because everyone fails to understand anything about biology.

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Nice BS captain but thats not even true on any level. What part of creationism isn't science do you not understand? I bet all those ebil jewish scientists think you are full of it! Alexei Alexeyevich Abrikosov who won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2003 thinks very little of you! He is Jewish btw.

Bullshit. It was reasonable discussion before you got here (none of this hate you're on about).

If you call zomg creationisms and religons teh suxorz my nutorz we allz gon diez reasonable. :rolleyes:
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2007, 23:41
Nice BS captain but thats not even true on any level. What part of creationism isn't science do you not understand? I bet all those ebil jewish scientists think you are full of it! Alexei Alexeyevich Abrikosov who won the Nobel Prize in Physics in 2003 thinks very little of you! He is Jewish btw.

Being Jewish does not automatically make one a creationist. In fact, the vast majority of Jews are not creationists, as Judaism is pretty adamant that Genesis is nothing more than an allegory.

I think the problem here is that you don't have any fucking idea about what creationism is.
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:43
FYI Waldemar Haffkine. Jewish man he was, developed and used vaccines against cholera and bubonic plague...Must be a bastard..
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2007, 23:46
You're not even reading anyone's posts anymore, are you?
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:47
Being Jewish does not automatically make one a creationist. In fact, the vast majority of Jews are not creationists, as Judaism is pretty adamant that Genesis is nothing more than an allegory.

I think the problem here is that you don't have any fucking idea about what creationism is.



I have a feeling the problem is you don't know anything. Have you ever met a jew?
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:48
You're not even reading anyone's posts anymore, are you?


I am, you are not. You have the read one post and attack deal going on. Creationism doesn't mean the end of the world.
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2007, 23:53
I have a feeling the problem is you don't know anything. Have you ever met a jew?

I find this post completely and utterly hilarious, and you probably don't know why.
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:54
I find this post completely and utterly hilarious, and you probably don't know why.

Neither do you, you had nothing intelligent to say so you put in an insult in a lame attempt to sound intelligent, because if you had something intelligent to say you would have said it, the fact you didn't speak volumes.
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2007, 23:55
I am, you are not. You have the read one post and attack deal going on. Creationism doesn't mean the end of the world.

Okay then, define creationism. I have a feeling you can't.
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:57
Okay then, define creationism. I have a feeling you can't.

It's so simple even you can get it.

Creationism is a religious belief that all life, the Earth, and the universe were created in their original form by god or gods, whose existence is presupposed. :rolleyes:
Cryptic Nightmare
18-12-2007, 23:58
Kid, the reason I didn't put any response other than that one is because you know absolutely nothing of Judaism, and anything I said would have gone right over your head.

The reason you didn't put a response is because you didn't have one. And I bet you are younger than me so stop the kid remarks kid.
CthulhuFhtagn
18-12-2007, 23:59
Neither do you, you had nothing intelligent to say so you put in an insult in a lame attempt to sound intelligent, because if you had something intelligent to say you would have said it, the fact you didn't speak volumes.

Kid, the reason I didn't put any response other than that one is because you know absolutely nothing of Judaism, and anything I said would have gone right over your head.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:00
It's so simple even you can get it.

Creationism is a religious belief that all life, the Earth, and the universe were created in their original form by god or gods, whose existence is presupposed. :rolleyes:

Congratulations. You got it. Now explain how that does not contradict the position taken by Judaism, which is that Genesis is an allegory, and not a literal description of events.
Cryptic Nightmare
19-12-2007, 00:03
Congratulations. You got it. Now explain how that does not contradict the position taken by Judaism, which is that Genesis is an allegory, and not a literal description of events.


I think you are lost on Judism, there are different sects of judism, which one do you mean? Orthodox Judaism? Conservative Judaism or Masorti Judaism? Reform Judaism or Progressive Judaism? Humanistic Judaism? You know Humanistic Judaism is nontheistic.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:06
I think you are lost on Judism, there are different sects of judism, which one do you mean? Orthodox Judaism? Conservative Judaism or Masorti Judaism? Reform Judaism or Progressive Judaism? Humanistic Judaism? You know Humanistic Judaism is nontheistic.

Pick one. It doesn't matter.
United Beleriand
19-12-2007, 00:08
Congratulations. You got it. Now explain how that does not contradict the position taken by Judaism, which is that Genesis is an allegory, and not a literal description of events.Allegory for what?
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:10
Allegory for what?

Life and the human condition, as I've told you countless times before. It's just like a Just-So story. Surely you've heard of those.
Cryptic Nightmare
19-12-2007, 00:10
Pick one. It doesn't matter.

LMFAO!!!!!!!! Yeah Humanistic Judaism that is a movement within Judaism that emphasizes Jewish culture and history rather than belief in God is no different than Orthodox Judaism which adheres to a relatively strict interpretation and application of the laws and ethics in the torah!

You are clueless! I am done with you! LMFAO!!! Later kid!
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:14
LMFAO!!!!!!!! Yeah Humanistic Judaism that is a movement within Judaism that emphasizes Jewish culture and history rather than belief in God is no different than Orthodox Judaism which adheres to a relatively strict interpretation and application of the laws and ethics in the torah!

You are clueless! I am done with you! LMFAO!!! Later kid!

My god, you don't even know what you're arguing. I said "pick one, it doesn't matter", because they all have the same stance on Genesis, which was the bloody subject. I mean, Jesus. Is there some class you take to be this utterly incompetent at debate?
United Beleriand
19-12-2007, 00:33
Life and the human condition, as I've told you countless times before.How is the creation of Man supposed to be allegorical for life and the human condition? How is a divine spirit upon the abyss allegoric for life and the human condition?
Genesis is in no way allegorical.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:36
How is the creation of Man supposed to be allegoric for life and the human condition? Genesis is in no way allegorical.

See, there's this thing called the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil", and...

Ah, fuck it. You didn't understand it the first twenty-odd times it was explained to you, so I doubt you'll understand it now.
United Beleriand
19-12-2007, 00:38
See, there's this thing called the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil", and...

Ah, fuck it. You didn't understand it the first twenty-odd times it was explained to you, so I doubt you'll understand it now.The fact of the matter is that there is no allegory. And also the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" is not at all allegorical.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-12-2007, 00:44
The fact of the matter is that there is no allegory. And also the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" is not at all allegorical.

And I was right.
Tmutarakhan
19-12-2007, 07:57
You think that knowledge is, literally, a piece of fruit???
The Brevious
19-12-2007, 08:00
Racy's ok as long as it convey the correct sentiment.

*nods*
How about a tactile sentiment regarding a sheep orifice or two?