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Yes. It's a lot like all those threads by religious nutjobs we've seen here over the years. You know, like "Ask a Christian", "Ask a Muslim", "Ask a whatever", and now its "Ask a homosexual". What answers do you really have to offer that we wouldn't already expect you to give from the get-go? What is there that the public doesn't already know? I mean, homosexuality is not particularly new.

Come back when you've actually read this thread. It answers all those questions you just raised.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56368

We assume people either gay or straight. Most people take it that anyone thought to be straight who turns out to have some gay history is 'really' gay. We make this judgment early on and even if we condemn them for it, we make some that don't fit in as straight feel that they must be gay. There were other cultures where this never happened. There were periods when men especially behaved with a preciousness and dressed with a flamboyance that would mark them as 'gay' today while maintaining romantic relationships with women. There are men who have sex with women but want nothing else to do with them.

Like a lot of sensitive boys, I preferred girls and because of that was assumed gay and had gay relationships as a teenager. Then I grew up and discovered that really it was mature women I preferred to air-head girly-girls. Today, I think I'd have less freedom to do that and I'd be told to be 'proud' to be gay - that is, to tell myself I just can't find any woman attractive, so never allow the risk of trying. It's very similar to racism: if you allow there are only black or white people, you get only black or white people and the mixtures have to decide which ghetto to join: in Dixieland they were usually Black, in South Africa there were more categories, but still any mixture of Black or White with Colored ended up Colored.

I think the whole thing is thoroughly screwed up because of our Puritanical history. On the whole, I agree with Gore Vidal: "Human sexuality is a continuum" and "There are no heterosexual or homosexual people, only acts"

I guess my question got buried in all the mess.

I had wanted to know how you think the gay community feels about transsexuals (specifically female-to-male gay transmen). Right now, my only connections with the GLBT community consist of my transgender support group and the all-lesbian GSA on my campus, so I have no true idea how gay men feel about people like me.

I guess my question got buried in all the mess.

I had wanted to know how you think the gay community feels about transsexuals (specifically female-to-male gay transmen). Right now, my only connections with the GLBT community consist of my transgender support group and the all-lesbian GSA on my campus, so I have no true idea how gay men feel about people like me.

Actually, I answered on the previous page, but some of my posts contain more than one answer, and I edited them as I was coming up with the answers, so you might have missed it. Here's what I had to say about it:


It's a tough question. I know for a fact some gay, one might even say many, are ill-at-ease with trans people. I for one am pretty at ease with them, but you ask of me something I'm not sure I can answer: am I comfortable enough that I would DATE a trans?

Well, I suppose if you were good looking enough, and had finished undergoing all surgeries and hormonal therapies and stuff and were thus biologically a man... I think yes, I would. Might feel a bit uneasy about it in the beginning (much like with dating a bisexual, for example) but I'm sure if things went well I'd get used to it fast enough.

So, I guess I can't answer for your local gay community, but I know that MY opinion is: if you're a man hot enough, I'd shag you, whether or not you've been a man for all your life or only the past few years. =D

This is what I hear: Gay men like to wear tight underwear, spandex, and thongs. Is it true? Also, how often did you have sex with your first boyfriend. Did you ever make out with him?:fluffle: How did you realize you were gay? do you think i'm gay because i like to look at naked men and swimmers in tight suits? Could you come to my school and talk. it is in wisconsin?

Well, some gay men do, but not everyone does. Personally, I might go for tight underwear because it makes me look good (it's more fashionable than baggy boxers, that's for sure) but I don't know that I'd wear spandex much. As for thongs, I'll be long dead before I wear one, and I can never help but laugh whenever I see a man in one. I find them oh-so-ridiculous.

How much did I make love with my first boyfriend? Well, I'm afraid I can't count that. We were in a serious, loving relationship for almost three years, and let me tell you, young men of 18 through 21 years old usually do a lot more than just hold hands chastely while looking each other in the eye. We made love a lot, often several times a day9especially at the start of our relationship) and unlike a lot of couples never really stopped doing it after a year or two.

It goes to say that yes, we did make out, every time we made love, and then some.

I realized I was gay pretty much when I realized that I was thinking about other guys whenever I was masturbating. As for if I think you are gay, I believe it's pretty much irrelevant. What matters is if YOU think you're gay. Why do you like looking at naked men and swimmers in speedoes? Is it because you'd like to kiss them, be close to them, and otherwise feel attracted to them? If so, then you probably are at least bisexual, if not outright gay. But only you can figure that out.

And unfortunately, I can't come to your school if it's in Wisconsin; I'm Canadian, and I live in Québec city, and thus visit only schools in my own city. Plus, we do it at the school's request, because we have a Sex Ed curriculum here, and I don't know if you have the equivalent where you live.

Actually, I answered on the previous page, but some of my posts contain more than one answer, and I edited them as I was coming up with the answers, so you might have missed it. Here's what I had to say about it:

Oh, missed it. Thanks!

Oh, missed it. Thanks!

So, you gonna ask me out after all or what? ;)

So, you gonna ask me out after all or what? ;)

Maybe you don't meet my standards. :p

Honestly, your answer kinda frightens me. Even with all the available surgeries/hormones, I will never look like a completely biological male. :( It means that even open-minded people will have trouble accepting all of me.

Maybe you don't meet my standards. :p

;_;



Honestly, your answer kinda frightens me. Even with all the available surgeries/hormones, I will never look like a completely biological male. :( It means that even open-minded people will have trouble accepting all of me.
Like I said, I'd feel about the same level of unease as I'd feel dating a bisexual, so that's nothing to be really that concerned about. As for the "never looking completely like a biological male", I hear sex-change surgeries are becoming increasingly effective. Who knows, better artificial organs might be available for you in the coming years. You might even get to obtain a graft that'd make most of us green with envy ;)

Maybe you don't meet my standards. :p

Honestly, your answer kinda frightens me. Even with all the available surgeries/hormones, I will never look like a completely biological male. :( It means that even open-minded people will have trouble accepting all of me.

I can tell you that sitting right here is one person who will treat you with the respect you deserve regardless of your appearance or gender. Transgendered people have every right to be treated equally, same as everyone else, and I'll be damned if I let others do otherwise.

Like Kyronea said, count me in.

Skaladora, ohh to have coffee with you and yours, your style of debate is grand; i degenerate into emotion-centered and easily shot down debates.

You teach, i preach; i have so much to learn from your methods.

Too bad you are there and i am here in Cali., USA

Hugs to you three; Kyronea and Skaladora and his lover
Rafe
OOC

PS - IC - if the Rafe System were real, id ask you to help teach the sex ed, you'd be paid of course.

I can tell you that sitting right here is one person who will treat you with the respect you deserve regardless of your appearance or gender. Transgendered people have every right to be treated equally, same as everyone else, and I'll be damned if I let others do otherwise.