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I came upon a site that says "panties are the closest thing to heaven".
I can't link it here cause...it an obscene email.

But it just struck me that I don't agree with that statement. Panties aren't the closest thing to heaven, they're disgusting. I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably. Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.

Panties aren't heaven, they're just plain gross.

EDIT: It just struck me, a guy is sniffing some chicks undies. How does he know that she didn't have the runs just before he started sniffing them? Disgusting.

Is this a fetish thing or what?

I came upon a site that says "panties are the closest thing to heaven".
I can't link it here cause...it an obscene email.

But it just struck me that I don't agree with that statement. Panties aren't the closest thing to heaven, they're disgusting. I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably. Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.

Panties aren't heaven, they're just plain gross.

I think it means they are literally next to 'heaven'. As in one of the female body parts generally used in sexual intercourse.

you do number 1 and number 2 in your underwear? gross.

I use a toilet.

and I don't wear underwear......but that's off topic.

you do number 1 and number 2 in your underwear? gross.

I use a toilet.

and I don't wear underwear......but that's off topic.

You conservative Christians with your loose ways and morals.

I came upon a site that says "panties are the closest thing to heaven".
I can't link it here cause...it an obscene email.

But it just struck me that I don't agree with that statement. Panties aren't the closest thing to heaven, they're disgusting. I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably. Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.

Panties aren't heaven, they're just plain gross.

EDIT: It just struck me, a guy is sniffing some chicks undies. How does he know that she didn't have the runs just before he started sniffing them? Disgusting.

You will grow up. You will learn. You will reach understanding. :D

What they mean is there's a lingerie store next door to heaven. They have stuff like this (http://www.orangeshag.com/images/b_jesus_panty.jpg).

What they mean is there's a lingerie store next door to heaven. They have stuff like this (http://www.orangeshag.com/images/b_jesus_panty.jpg).

I wonder if the pope would be able to bless me a pair of those. I think my manhood deserves only the holiest of undergarments

I prefer comando.

I prefer comando.

Zips scare me too much for me to prefer commando

What they mean is there's a lingerie store next door to heaven. They have stuff like this (http://www.orangeshag.com/images/b_jesus_panty.jpg).GReat. Now I'm traumatized for life.

You bastard :(

and I don't wear underwear......but that's off topic.

That's off ... something. :)

I wonder if the pope would be able to bless me a pair of those. I think my manhood deserves only the holiest of undergarments

I'm sure he'd be right up there if the face is on the back.

Zips scare me too much for me to prefer commando

Just zip slowly. :)

I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably. Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.
o_O

o_O

Don't deny it, you dirty whore.

I think it means they are literally next to 'heaven'. As in one of the female body parts generally used in sexual intercourse.

EYE OF HEAVEN

brokenhearted
the moon leaves earth
looking for a new world
to protect & serve

to avoid the danger
of increasing heaven's space
my eyes covered with blindness
diving into endless grace

as long black rainbows fight the light
conquer and turn dawn into night
holding on – going down
the sun takes off her crown
as long as stars brighten the sky
as long as time is passing by
protect the eye of heaven

celestial bodies
nestling close to me
in search for shelter
and security

dust of clouds
cover desert sky
to save us from a demon's seed
the seas run dry

as long black rainbows fight the light
conquer and turn dawn into night
holding on – going down
the sun takes off her crown
as long as stars brighten the sky
as long as time is passing by
protect the eye of heaven
*hums tune*
*nods*

o_O

*hops up and down*
*begs for link*

*pouts at futility*

Zips scare me too much for me to prefer commando

it isn't that bad at worst you will just scrape the bell end which only hurts for a moment :)

and I think the slogan involves thinking when very horny (and I'm guessing the target audience will be)

Don't deny it, you dirty whore.
Of course not! Everybody knows what nasty things us dirty chicks be doing in our disgusting panties! And just to think of our gross, diseased sweat! And number 1 and number 2 and the runs, all in our panties! OMG!

it isn't that bad at worst you will just scrape the bell end which only hurts for a moment :)

and I think the slogan involves thinking when very horny (and I'm guessing the target audience will be)

I actually did the whole "Beans above the Frank" thing at work once.
Ouch.
:eek:

:eek:
...
Thank you all. I am now tramatized for life.

Of course not! Everybody knows what nasty things us dirty chicks be doing in our disgusting panties! And just to think of our gross, diseased sweat! And number 1 and number 2 and the runs, all in our panties! OMG!

Well, if you "people" would be more dignified like us men, you wouldn't have that problem.

I wonder if the pope would be able to bless me a pair of those. I think my manhood deserves only the holiest of undergarments
I'm sure he can drop his prior arrangements.
Zips scare me too much for me to prefer commando
Wear something without zips. *nods*
Of course not! Everybody knows what nasty things us dirty chicks be doing in our disgusting panties! And just to think of our gross, diseased sweat! And number 1 and number 2 and the runs, all in our panties! OMG!

Rule #34 leads me to believe that there is a website with pictures and possibly video to that effect out there somewhere.


Fuck you, internet. Fuck you.

Of course not! Everybody knows what nasty things us dirty chicks be doing in our disgusting panties! And just to think of our gross, diseased sweat! And number 1 and number 2 and the runs, all in our panties! OMG!:eek:

Happy Fourth of Julia to me. ;)



*terrible, just terrible*

Rule #34 leads me to believe that there is a website with pictures and possibly video to that effect out there somewhere. Of WYTYG?
*hopeshopeshopeshopeshopeshopes*


Fuck you, internet. Fuck you.
Yes! Yes! Fuck you, too!

I think this dude is thinking of diapers...WHOLE different thing...

I think this dude is thinking of diapers...WHOLE different thing...

*steps away from food*

Thanks.

Well, if you "people" would be more dignified like us men, you wouldn't have that problem.

Suffrage, biatch!

I think this dude is thinking of diapers...WHOLE different thing...
Well, at least that would make some kind of sense.

Of course, it still wouldn't explain the whole Nasty Sweat of Disease part. :rolleyes:

Of course, it still wouldn't explain the whole Nasty Sweat of Disease part. :rolleyes:
Malaria?
At least it would smell SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET. :p

I came upon a site that says "panties are the closest thing to heaven".
I can't link it here cause...it an obscene email.

But it just struck me that I don't agree with that statement. Panties aren't the closest thing to heaven, they're disgusting. I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably. Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.

Panties aren't heaven, they're just plain gross.

EDIT: It just struck me, a guy is sniffing some chicks undies. How does he know that she didn't have the runs just before he started sniffing them? Disgusting.

I´m pretty sure you´re either retarded or a female.

The condition of the panties has nothing to do with the saying. The saying "panties are the closest things to heaven" is said because they are the closest things to vaginas (medical and scientific term), which for us alpha males, is the equivalent of heaven (a place where we get pleasure, satisfaction, confidence and the ending of all our worries).

Understood?

which for us alpha males, is the equivalent of heaven (a place where we get pleasure, satisfaction, confidence and the ending of all our worries).

Alpha males on NSG?

Perhaps Alpha Nerds .... :p

I´m pretty sure you´re either retarded or a female.

Hey! I resemble that remark! :mad:

Hey! I resemble that remark! :mad:

Are you an alpha female, perhaps?

Of WYTYG?
*hopeshopeshopeshopeshopeshopes*
Knowing her, probably
Well, at least that would make some kind of sense.

Of course, it still wouldn't explain the whole Nasty Sweat of Disease part. :rolleyes:
Well the sweat from a woman's crotch is one of the most poisonous toxins on earth. Most men never survive performing oral sex on their girlfriend. *nods*

Are you an alpha female, perhaps?

Is there really any question?

Is there really any question?

Wouldn't that mean that you and NB are bumping uglies?

Is there really any question?

Two, so far, if i read the punctuation correctly.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12845547&postcount=37

Could be a cross-cultural/international communication issue again, methinks :p

Wouldn't that mean that you and NB are bumping uglies?

o.0

*gets popcorn*

Wouldn't that mean that you and NB are bumping uglies?
Would it? :eek:

http://www.insaneabode.com/roboterotica/jokesexplained/confucioussay.html

The only panties that are closest to heaven are the ones I'm wearing at any given moment.

The only panties that are closest to heaven are the ones I'm wearing at any given moment.

QFT

Would it? :eek:
Probably.
The only panties that are closest to heaven are the ones I'm wearing at any given moment.

Pfft, the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours :P

Pfft, the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours :PVirgin?
*FLORT*
http://www.websmileys.com/sm/happy/1074.gif

Pfft, the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours :P
Let's put it this way: there's a reason she's still a virgin...

Let's put it this way: there's a reason she's still a virgin...

...she's an NSG nerd?
:p

Let's put it this way: there's a reason she's still a virgin...

Chastity belt that God has they key to?

Chastity belt that God has they key to?

Ooh! *raises hand*
"To Akrisios and Eurydike, Lakedaimon’s daughter, was born a daughter Danae . . . While Akrisios was making oracular inquiry into the problem of fathering sons, the god informed him that a son born of his daughter would slay him. In fear Akrisios constructed a bronze chamber beneath the earth, where he kept Danae under guard. Now some say that Proitos seduced her, which led to the hard feelings between the brothers, but others say that Zeus had sex with her by changing himself into gold that streamed in through the ceiling and down into her womb. When Akrisios later learned that she had given birth to Perseus, not believing that Zeus seduced her, he cast his daughter out to sea with her son on an ark. The ark drifted ashore at Seriphos, where Diktys recovered the child and brought him up.” - Apollodorus, Library 2.26 & 34
Golden Showers. Arh yeah.
Seepage > chastity belt.

Man, the Greek pantheon were into some nasty shit.

Chastity belt that God has they key to?
I was leaning more towards being ugly enough that no one would go near her even if he had a 10 foot pole...

Man, the Greek pantheon were into some nasty shit.

Is it just me or does anyone else pronounce Diktys as "Dick tease" and Eurydike as "You're a dyke". That along with the "hard feelings between the brothers" makes me feel very bad about the state of my mind.

Well, I've never really understood the panties thing. Now bras...those are good items. Once one appeared in the boys locker room. Someone threw it at me, and it smelled nice. (Nods)

Probably. :(

Man, the Greek pantheon were into some nasty shit.

Boy, howdy.
*nods emphatically*

Well, I've never really understood the panties thing. Now bras...those are good items. Once one appeared in the boys locker room. Someone threw it at me, and it smelled nice. (Nods)

Very very creepy :p

Very very creepy :p

People kept accusing me of being its wearer. I have also been accused of watching bondage. Now that's creepy. I mean, seriously. I can't sit near a certain group because someone will say "Bondage..." and I end up trying and failing to kill the bastard.

People kept accusing me of being its wearer. I have also been accused of watching bondage. Now that's creepy. I mean, seriously. I can't sit near a certain group because someone will say "Bondage..." and I end up trying and failing to kill the bastard.

Bondage is in no way creepy :eek:

you do number 1 and number 2 in your underwear? gross.

I use a toilet.

and I don't wear underwear......but that's off topic.

I second that...every Friday is Freeball Friday...you can figure that one out...

On the bondage thing..if I was to try that..the first time I would have to have a friend of mine in the closet with a bat...just incase...

Is it just me or does anyone else pronounce Diktys as "Dick tease" and Eurydike as "You're a dyke". That along with the "hard feelings between the brothers" makes me feel very bad about the state of my mind.
Your mind is like some kind of mental /b/
Well, I've never really understood the panties thing. Now bras...those are good items. Once one appeared in the boys locker room. Someone threw it at me, and it smelled nice. (Nods)
Creepy. I wonder if the greek gods sniffed bras....

Did they even have bras back then?
:(

Don't worry, we still love you, even if you are in German Scheisse films.

Bondage is in no way creepy :eek:

Well, I fail to see how anyone could acheive orgasm by being tied up, blindfolded, and spanked, in that order.

Creepy. I wonder if the greek gods sniffed bras....

Did they even have bras back then?

I only sniffed the bra by accident. As I said, some jackass threw it at me. Nobody had any clue whose it was, or why it was there.

Well, I fail to see how anyone could acheive orgasm by being tied up, blindfolded, and spanked, in that order.



I don't achieve orgasm based on those but they heighten the orgasm

......

Maybe I should stop typing

Don't worry, we still love you, even if you are in German Scheisse films.
:fluffle:

I was young and needed the money.

I think they had something like it...I thought something like that was mentioned in a Catullus poem I read in Latin last year, or something like that. It might just have been a strip of cloth or something, though. I'm really not sure.:confused:

Nope they just had slaves following women providing manual support *nods*

I second that...every Friday is Freeball Friday...you can figure that one out...
Commando=win

On the bondage thing..if I was to try that..the first time I would have to have a friend of mine in the closet with a bat...just incase...
And a video camera *nods*
Well, I fail to see how anyone could acheive orgasm by being tied up, blindfolded, and spanked, in that order.
Some people are just kinky *nods*



I only sniffed the bra by accident. As I said, some jackass threw it at me. Nobody had any clue whose it was, or why it was there.
Not creepy. Though why someone would be throwing a bra around....oh, you're 13 ish. Nevermind.

Did they even have bras back then?

I think they had something like it...I thought something like that was mentioned in a Catullus poem I read in Latin last year, or something like that. It might just have been a strip of cloth or something, though. I'm really not sure.:confused:

:fluffle:

I was young and needed the money.
:fluffle:

Who'd have thought you could make so much money that way though
Nope they just had slaves following women providing manual support *nods*
What and awesome job.....
I think they had something like it...I thought something like that was mentioned in a Catullus poem I read in Latin last year, or something like that. It might just have been a strip of cloth or something, though. I'm really not sure.:confused:

Those Romans, centuries ahead of their time.

Nope they just had slaves following women providing manual support *nods*

No, she was alone on the island in the poem I was thinking of. I remember now. I think it was about Ariadne...

Commando=win

Thats what I'm talkin about Ho Ha Two Times Tuesday!

:fluffle:

I was young and needed the money.
The question now is, what would you do NOW for $?
:)

Is it just me or does anyone else pronounce Diktys as "Dick tease" and Eurydike as "You're a dyke". That along with the "hard feelings between the brothers" makes me feel very bad about the state of my mind.

The same exact thing happened to me :eek:

The question now is, what would you do NOW for $?
:)
The question now is, how much $ are we talking?
:)

People kept accusing me of being its wearer. I have also been accused of watching bondage. Now that's creepy. I mean, seriously. I can't sit near a certain group because someone will say "Bondage..." and I end up trying and failing to kill the bastard.
You know if you show a reaction like that, they're more likely to persist.

If anything, you should offer to tie one of them up. Say you'll bring your leash tomorrow if they're really that interested in wearing it.

You know if you show a reaction like that, they're more likely to persist.

If anything, you should offer to tie one of them up. Say you'll bring your leash tomorrow if they're really that interested in wearing it.

:eek: :p

The same exact thing happened to me :eek:
Your mind is worse than /b/
You know if you show a reaction like that, they're more likely to persist.

If anything, you should offer to tie one of them up. Say you'll bring your leash tomorrow if they're really that interested in wearing it.

I approve of this advice.

Your mind is worse than /b/
:eek: :(

I approve of this advice. :eek: That means it must be bad advice, and Johnny shouldn't follow it.

Johnny, whatever Ifreann says, DON'T DO IT! Don't! It's not worth it! We love you, Johnny! :fluffle: :(

:eek: :(



Want to make a club?

.....

More in the style of an AA club of course

Want to make a club?

.....

More in the style of an AA club of course

Hmmm...

My name is Pancake Darknovae, and my mind is a mental /b/.
*breaks down crying*

Some people are just kinky *nods*

Not creepy. Though why someone would be throwing a bra around....oh, you're 13 ish. Nevermind.

Well, they were just fooling around. And I guess that's true.

Maybe I should stop typing

Yeah, you should.

Reading the entire thread, I'm still curious as to why the op thinks women go 1 and 2 in their underwear. Maybe if they couldn't hold it in, but...

The question now is, how much $ are we talking?
:)

Well, being you, i'm sure we're talking about souls.
:)

The rest, i'm sure, can be haggled somewhat.

TG, btw?

Pfft, the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours :P

Don't talk about Our Mother like that, man.

The only panties that are closest to heaven are the ones I'm wearing at any given moment.
Quoted for Hotness.

Don't talk about Our Mother like that, man.

You're Jesus??? :eek:

You're Jesus??? :eek:

When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. 27 After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. 28 Afterwards, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, said: I thirst. 29 Now there was a vessel set there full of vinegar. And they, putting a sponge full of vinegar and hyssop, put it to his mouth. 30 Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost

As Adam brought sin into the world, and likewise Death, Our Lord became a new Adam, bringing grace and mercy into the world, and therefore Life, everlasting and abundant life.

Likewise, as Eve, the "mother of all the living" likewise brought death into the world through her temptation of Adam, Our Lady becomes for us a New Eve, bringing Jesus into the world.

Our Lady is My Mother, Your Mother, and the Mother of all the living, and of all the Faithful. She freely offered up her life, her will, and her perpetual virginity as a sacrifice for us to God, in union with the sacrifice of Our Lord.

You would not speak of your own mother like that. Even less should we talk of Our Lady like that, for she is not only Our Mother, but Co Redemptrix, our Advocate, and Queen of Heaven.

Quoted for Hotness.
I do my best to raise the temperature around here.

*snip*

I hope when your own wife, despite you having never touched her, comes out with the claim that she was impregnated by God, that you'll be as forgiving as Joseph was.

Mary was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

snip

really lay off before you start a flame war

really lay off before you start a flame war

Would you want me talking about your mother like that?

I hope when your own wife, despite you having never touched her, comes out with the claim that she was impregnated by God, that you'll be as forgiving as Joseph was.

That would be awesome! :D

Would you want me talking about your mother like that?

Common saying: "Oh yeah? Well that's what your mom said last night."
Go ahead. Everybody's used to it already.

Would you want me talking about your mother like that?

can till you find you have cross the line

Barringtonia's mom was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

How is it when the tables are turned, hmm?

How is it when the tables are turned, hmm?

See above. Nobody cares.

I do my best to raise the temperature around here.
I think you could do your average and still git-r-dun.

I hope when your own wife, despite you having never touched her, comes out with the claim that she was impregnated by God, that you'll be as forgiving as Joseph was.

Mary was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

lol

lol

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531621

That's what your mom said when your dad asked if he satisfies her.

She then proceded to say "You aren't Raul, bitch." ;)

*takes cover*

That's what your mom said when your dad asked if he satisfies her.

She then proceded to say "You aren't Raul, bitch." ;)

don't have a dad so you get a F

Oh...it was an honest mistake, since I heard him asking you again and again "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?" ;)

And where were you in all of this, hmm? ADULTERER!!!

how the fuck did this thread descend into a momma joke flame war....

Oh...it was an honest mistake, since I heard him asking you again and again "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?" ;)

Zilam?

Is that you?

Is that you?

In the past two days, I've been accused of being Jesussaves....Sacred Property...and "Zalam." What the hell?!?!

Oh...it was an honest mistake, since I heard him asking you again and again "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?" ;)

you really do fail

Zilam?

Is that you?

Wherefore puppeting?

In the past two days, I've been accused of being Jesussaves....Sacred Property...and "Zalam." What the hell?!?!

Hi, Zilam!

you really do fail

That's what I thought. I won't post any more offensive material against your mother, and I'll delete the last ones. However, whether you are willing to admit it or not, I think we both know that you probably took some degree of offense to what I said, even though I obviously didn't mean what I said, since I don't even know you or your mother.

Consider that next time you consider joking, or saying it's ok to joke, about Our Lady like that.

In the past two days, I've been accused of being Jesussaves....Sacred Property...and "Zalam." What the hell?!?!

Sorry MTAE. :p

(It's a joke. Get off my back.)

Our Lady like that.

she not my lady so people can joke all they want as i see it

That's what I thought. I won't post any more offensive material against your mother, and I'll delete the last ones. However, whether you are willing to admit or admit, I think we both know that you probably took some degree of offense to what I said, even though I obviously didn't mean what I said, since I don't even know you or your mother.

Consider that next time you consider joking, or saying it's ok to joke, about Our Lady like that.

Wait a second here. Let me ask another question.

If Your Lady = Your Mother, then what is your biological mother?? :confused:

Wait a second here. Let me ask another question.

If Your Lady = Your Mother, then what is your biological mother?? :confused:

His Lady.

"Now now Brandeen. They's my parents too." ;)

His Lady.

"Now now Brandeen. They's my parents too." ;)

LMAO

she not my lady so people can joke all they want as i see it

And your mother isn't mine, nor anyone else's. Nor is your deceased father mine, nor anyone else's. Therefore, I and everyone else can joke about them?

I don't think you would agree with that. Especially considering your responses to what I just said earlier. You didn't take too kindly to it. Yet, your mother actually did have sex with at least one person.

Our Mother didn't.

Your mother is a sinner.

Our Mother isn't.

Your mother probably merits a joke or two, as I am sure most of our mothers do. She's probably done something really dumb at one point or another.

Our Mother didn't.

So whether you believe in her in that way or not, it's still highly inappropriate.

I don't think you would agree with that. Especially considering your responses to what I just said earlier. You didn't take too kindly to it. Yet, your mother actually did have sex with at least one person.

That is a blatant assumption that Isa is not a demi-god! Slander!

Gens Romae, since your moderation thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532036) was closed, and it probably wouldn't have been appropriate, I'll address your assertion that the comments here constitute defamation and obscenity here.

The case for defamation fails because:
1) The subject is not a real person.
2) The statements are "fair comment on a matter of public interest".
3) The subject is a public figure.

The case for obscenity fails because "the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours" does not describe or depict sexual conduct at all, much less in an offensive way.

The case for defamation fails because:
1) The subject is not a real person.

Prove that.

The case for obscenity fails because "the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours" does not describe or depict sexual conduct at all, much less in an offensive way.

It carries a sexual undertone.

That is a blandant assumption that Isa is not a demi-god! Slander!


Jesus, translated as Isa in Arabic.
all so you have Mount Isa and a lot more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isa


but me its short for Interplanetary Strategic Alliance

Jesus, translated as Isa in Arabic.

Awesome! I win! Gens, you just insulted the Virgin Mary!
*ignores rest of post*

Awesome! I win! Gens, you just insulted the Virgin Mary!
*ignores rest of post*

or that i can :p

or that i can :p

White text! Quick, before Gens sees! :p

Prove that.

It carries a sexual undertone.

Listen, buddy, we really, really, really don't care. If I add one more really will it get the point across to you? Generalites, as a whole, have blaspheme down to a fine art, and we like to practice it. Nobody on NSG is going to care, so just keep it to yourself or go away.

Listen, buddy, we really, really, really don't care. If I add one more really will it get the point across to you? Generalites, as a whole, have blaspheme down to a fine art, and we like to practice it. Nobody on NSG is going to care, so just keep it to yourself or go away.

*opens Generalite fine art museum, next to the Louvre.*

Listen, buddy, we really, really, really don't care. If I add one more really will it get the point across to you? Generalites, as a whole, have blaspheme down to a fine art, and we like to practice it. Nobody on NSG is going to care, so just keep it to yourself or go away.

Misereatur Deus tui.

White text! Quick, before Gens sees! :p

:fluffle: for caring but i'm not biting to them

*opens Generalite fine art museum, next to the Louvre.*

We'll call it the Lover, and it will confuse the poor tourists to no end.

Listen, buddy, we really, really, really don't care. If I add one more really will it get the point across to you? Generalites, as a whole, have blaspheme down to a fine art, and we like to practice it. Nobody on NSG is going to care, so just keep it to yourself or go away.

That seems to cover it.

Oh, and working under the Judeo-Christian assumption on these boards won't get you far either.

For example, I recall a thread October last about cousins doing each other. Most people, myself included, fully condoned it.

Barringtonia's mom was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

How is it when the tables are turned, hmm?

The name 'Barringtonia' is as much a figment of my imagination as Mary is of yours.

Yet your cutting wit and devastating reply is duly noted.

Misereatur Deus tui.

This is America. Speak English.

Or, at least, if you're going to speak latin, try to use latin that my Latin-English Translator doesn't puke up.

This is America. Speak English.

Or, at least, if you're going to speak latin, try to use latin that my Latin-English Translator doesn't puke up.

Misereatur is the singular third person jussive subjunctive of "Miserere," and takes the genitive.

Misereatur is the singular third person jussive subjunctive of "Miserere," and takes the genitive.

Okay. That's nice. Latin is a dead language. If you want to make a point, either make it in a language I understand, or refrain from saying anything. Debating with a dead language is cute, but, aside from making you look pretentious, it doesn't serve much of a purpose.

Edit: "Your God Is Miserable"? Well, given that I don't have one, that isn't the case, but, couldn't you have just said that.

How the fuck did a thread about Underwear...become a massive debate over god and religion...wtf get back to the topic its far more interesting as it hasn't been brought up 156486465468785 times like the whole religion bit has..its now Boooooooring...:confused:

How the fuck did a thread about Underwear...become a massive debate over god and religion...wtf get back to the topic its far more interesting as it hasn't been brought up 156486465468785 times like the whole religion bit has..its now Boooooooring...:confused:

you read it so you know who did it

Okay. That's nice. Latin is a dead language. If you want to make a point, either make it in a language I understand, or refrain from saying anything. Debating with a dead language is cute, but, aside from making you look pretentious, it doesn't serve much of a purpose.

Edit: "Your God Is Miserable"? Well, given that I don't have one, that isn't the case, but, couldn't you have just said that.

"Misereatur Deus tui" translates to "May God have mercy on you."

ok the latin bit is seriously becoming annoying...I dont care what the romans or the catholic church spoke in medieval times no one speaks it now..GET BACK TO THE TOPIC GOD DAMN IT

"Misereatur Deus tui" translates to "May God have mercy on you."

If I wanted mercy, I'd fucking well ask for it. Until such a time, I thank you to keep your mercy to yourself.

lol gat, relax. If it really bugs you, I think you can report it as spamming, maybe?

I'm just tired of the entire religious debate thing...you cant even talk about underwear because it has the word heaven in the topic for crying out loud...

I'm just tired of the entire religious debate thing...you cant even talk about underwear because it has the word heaven in the topic for crying out loud...

Welcome to General. A lot of threads turn to religious argument.

ok the latin bit is seriously becoming annoying...I dont care what the romans or the catholic church spoke in medieval times no one speaks it now..GET BACK TO THE TOPIC GOD DAMN IT

Dammit, I spent a year learning Latin, and plan on spending another 3 years learning the language. I'll damn well use it when I feel like it, gosh damn it! :mad:

well then maybe I should start yelling Allah Akbar whilst bowing to a buddah shrine in a room full of peyote smoke whilst I try and find enlightenment..

i hear theres underwear vending machines in japan

Dammit, I spent a year learning Latin, and plan on spending another 3 years learning the language. I'll damn well use it when I feel like it, gosh damn it! :mad:

Not if other people don't understand it. Go to a Latin chat room.

Not if other people don't understand it. Go to a Latin chat room.

Dude, it is the language of the Philosophers and of the Church.

i hear theres underwear vending machines in japan

I think what one of General's Resident Experts on Japan nixed that, but I may be wrong.

i hear theres underwear vending machines in japan

OH THANK YOU Isa...*BOWS*

so do tell more about these machines lol

Dude, it is the language of the Philosophers and of the Church.

For the Catholic Church maybe. But it has fallen out of use. People don't get your point if they cannot read it. But this is off-topic.

For the Catholic Church maybe. But it has fallen out of use. People don't get your point if they cannot read it. But this is off-topic.

I gave a translation, dammit. :mad:

I gave a translation, dammit. :mad:

That is true. Anyway, back on topic.

This is America. Speak English.

This most certainly is not America!

I'll start typing in Hebrew...enjoy translating that...

Anyways...

I would feel weird buying my underware from a vending machine...

America or not ENGLISH rules the world...so start using it...

OH THANK YOU Isa...*BOWS*

so do tell more about these machines lol

Are the machines heated in winter?

I'll start typing in Hebrew...enjoy translating that...

Gimme a couple years. I plan on learning Hebrew my junior year of college. I'm learning Greek next year. :cool:

I think what one of General's Resident Experts on Japan nixed that, but I may be wrong.
but you seeing what i'm trying to do
OH THANK YOU Isa...*BOWS*

so do tell more about these machines lol

from what i find out after hearing of them it's teenage girl underwear and they have existed apparently since the late 1980's

Not if other people don't understand it. Go to a Latin chat room.

Mais oui! Si quelqu'un ne peut pas nous comprendre, il faut simplement partir!

Das Wissen von einer anderer Sprache ist willkommen hier nicht…

from what i find out after hearing of them it's teenage girl underwear and they have existed apparently since the late 1980's

Also fake-orthodontics machines? :D

Mais oui! Si quelqu'un ne peut pas nous comprendre, il faut simplement partir!

Das Wissen von einer anderer Sprache ist willkommen hier nicht…

:confused:

First one is Spanish?

Second looks German.

hrmm...those silly japs dispencing teenage girl underware in vending machines...pervs..

This most certainly is not America!

*whiz*

Well... At least the joke didn't pass too close to your head. The last guy who missed one that badly ended up with a reverse mohawk.

Also fake-orthodontics machines? :D

ar no just find Images of them

*whiz*

Well... At least the joke didn't pass too close to your head. The last guy who missed one that badly ended up with a reverse mohawk.

Reference to that other thread?
(And no, I didn't get a mohawk. I just lost a piece of my skull, and about two thirds of my left ear) :p

First one is Spanish?

French.

Reference to that other thread?

Just to the phrase (which, given that this is, as you said, most certainly not America, was clearly incorrect), and the fact that it was the wittiest response I could manage on short notice.

hrmm...those silly japs dispencing teenage girl underware in vending machines...pervs..

indeed

Just to the phrase (which, given that this is, as you said, most certainly not America, was clearly incorrect), and the fact that it was the wittiest response I could manage on short notice.

I only wrote that due to some post in Moderation saying something along the lines of "Thiz 1z Amer1ca we r free do wat we want" (grossly exaggerated). I was still feeling tetchy about it.

*recieves electric shock, returns to topic* :D

Let's put it this way: there's a reason she's still a virgin...

ummm.

She not a virgin. I have proof.
After Jesus, (even if Jesus was a virgin birth), she had other kids who were not the result of virgin births. They were result of Joseph.

She not a virgin. I have proof.
After Jesus, (even if Jesus was a virgin birth), she had other kids who were not the result of virgin births. They were result of Joseph.

Prove it.

ummm.

She not a virgin. I have proof.
After Jesus, (even if Jesus was a virgin birth), she had other kids who were not the result of virgin births. They were result of Joseph.

Yeah, I always thought about that.

Why would she not want to still have a family with Joseph?

Even though I'm atheist, I still believe that Jesus existed and did teach about love and whatnot, but doubt that he really rose from the dead.

Reading the entire thread, I'm still curious as to why the op thinks women go 1 and 2 in their underwear. Maybe if they couldn't hold it in, but...

I meant they might. Or they might use toilet but not wipe their butts completely and so some stuff get on the panties.

I meant they might. Or they might use toilet but not wipe their butts completely and so some stuff get on the panties.

*awkward*

Don't talk about Our Mother like that, man.

You two have the same mom?

You two have the same mom?

He means Virgin Mary. Show some respect to other people's beliefs. You know what he meant.

Why would she not want to still have a family with Joseph?

Well, raising a prophet is a lot of work. Would you want to have another?
Besides, two prophets at once would only cause turmoil. ;)


*returns to topic again* :headbang:

As Adam brought sin into the world, and likewise Death, Our Lord became a new Adam, bringing grace and mercy into the world, and therefore Life, everlasting and abundant life.

Likewise, as Eve, the "mother of all the living" likewise brought death into the world through her temptation of Adam, Our Lady becomes for us a New Eve, bringing Jesus into the world.

Our Lady is My Mother, Your Mother, and the Mother of all the living, and of all the Faithful. She freely offered up her life, her will, and her perpetual virginity as a sacrifice for us to God, in union with the sacrifice of Our Lord.

You would not speak of your own mother like that. Even less should we talk of Our Lady like that, for she is not only Our Mother, but Co Redemptrix, our Advocate, and Queen of Heaven.


Show me in the Bible where it says Mary is still a virgin and show where in the Bible it says the Mary is now the mother of all humans.

*awkward*

*joins the awkward*

Depends(tm) :D

I only wrote that due to some post in Moderation saying something along the lines of "Thiz 1z Amer1ca we r free do wat we want" (grossly exaggerated). I was still feeling tetchy about it.

*recieves electric shock, returns to topic* :D

More like this is a TAZ and we're free to do what we want, assuming that we don't cross too many lines and lose that right.

As Adam brought sin into the world, and likewise Death, Our Lord became a new Adam, bringing grace and mercy into the world, and therefore Life, everlasting and abundant life.

Likewise, as Eve, the "mother of all the living" likewise brought death into the world through her temptation of Adam, Our Lady becomes for us a New Eve, bringing Jesus into the world.

Our Lady is My Mother, Your Mother, and the Mother of all the living, and of all the Faithful. She freely offered up her life, her will, and her perpetual virginity as a sacrifice for us to God, in union with the sacrifice of Our Lord.

You would not speak of your own mother like that. Even less should we talk of Our Lady like that, for she is not only Our Mother, but Co Redemptrix, our Advocate, and Queen of Heaven.

Show where in the Bible it says that Mary is our advocate before God. Show where it says she is the "coredeemer".
Also show where it says she is the "Queen of Heaven".

*awkward*

EXACTLY what I was thinking...after reading the last few posts from Brach I am now laughing my ass off

Show where in the Bible it says that Mary is our advocate before God. Show where it says she is the "coredeemer".
Also show where it says she is the "Queen of Heaven".

Note that this is a Catholic belief and, as far as I know, not a Protestant one.

This is why I like NSG.

Where else can a topic about obscene mail be easily turned into a religious debate?

Show me in the Bible where it says Mary is still a virgin and show where in the Bible it says the Mary is now the mother of all humans.

Of the first, the Douay Rheims so comments on Matthew 1:25 (And he knew her not till she brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS), particularly in light of St. Jerome's preaching:

"Till she brought forth her firstborn son"... From these words Helvidius and other heretics most impiously inferred that the blessed Virgin Mary had other children besides Christ; but St. Jerome shews, by divers examples, that this expression of the Evangelist was a manner of speaking usual among the Hebrews, to denote by the word until, only what is done, without any regard to the future. Thus it is said, Genesis 8. 6 and 7, that Noe sent forth a raven, which went forth, and did not return till the waters were dried up on the earth. That is, did not return any more. Also Isaias 46. 4, God says: I am till you grow old. Who dare infer that God should then cease to be: Also in the first book of Machabees 5. 54, And they went up to mount Sion with joy and gladness, and offered holocausts, because not one of them was slain till they had returned in peace. That is, not one was slain before or after they had returned. God saith to his divine Son: Sit on my right hand till I make thy enemies thy footstool. Shall he sit no longer after his enemies are subdued? Yea and for all eternity. St. Jerome also proves by Scripture examples, that an only begotten son, was also called firstborn, or first begotten: because according to the law, the firstborn males were to be consecrated to God; Sanctify unto me, saith the Lord, every firstborn that openeth the womb among the children of Israel, etc. Ex. 13. 2.

That Our Lady is a perpetual virgin wasn't even a point of contention in the original Reformers. Lutheran prayed the Rosary, and Calvin proclaimed her himself as perpetual virgin.

That said, aside from the verse I gave where Jesus outright said "Son, behold thy mother...etc," there is Apocalypse 12 (http://drbo.org/chapter/73012.htm), which clearly illustrates Our Lady was Queen of Heaven, and if God is our Father and King, and Mary is Our Queen, it only follows that she is Our Mother.

I hope when your own wife, despite you having never touched her, comes out with the claim that she was impregnated by God, that you'll be as forgiving as Joseph was.

Mary was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

Historically inaccurate. There is no proof for this in the Bible or in secular records of the time.
It most likely that after God used Mary, he gave her back to Joseph and she was faithful ever since.

I doubt that (assuming that Jesus really was the human incarnation of God) that she would have gone around with every guy in the village(s).

Brach..go back to talkin about women's underwear you're Hilarious...

I meant they might. Or they might use toilet but not wipe their butts completely and so some stuff get on the panties.

Oh ok....I'm just going to leave this thread now.

Not to mention, that Joesph orginally broke up with her. An Angel came to him during a dream and told him God did it.

Oh ok....I'm just going to leave this thread now.

LOL no MrWho come back...

LOL no MrWho come back...

Okie dokie. This is one of those threads that I'm amused and weirded out at the same time.

"Son, behold thy mother...etc,"

:confused:

Historically inaccurate. There is no proof for this in the Bible or in secular records of the time.
It most likely that after God used Mary, he gave her back to Joseph and she was faithful ever since.

I doubt that (assuming that Jesus really was the human incarnation of God) that she would have gone around with every guy in the village(s).

Really??!!

I was so sure :confused:

Mary probably did do it with Joseph. Afterall, they were married. How else do you think Jesus had brothers and sisters. He wasn't talking about "brothers" in a spiritual sense. His mother was worried one time and sent his brothers, who she gave birth to, to check up on him. It's in the Bible.

Where? Show me.

And your mother isn't mine, nor anyone else's. Nor is your deceased father mine, nor anyone else's. Therefore, I and everyone else can joke about them?

I don't think you would agree with that. Especially considering your responses to what I just said earlier. You didn't take too kindly to it. Yet, your mother actually did have sex with at least one person.

Our Mother didn't.

Your mother is a sinner.

Our Mother isn't.

Your mother probably merits a joke or two, as I am sure most of our mothers do. She's probably done something really dumb at one point or another.

Our Mother didn't.

So whether you believe in her in that way or not, it's still highly inappropriate.

Mary probably did do it with Joseph. Afterall, they were married. How else do you think Jesus had brothers and sisters. He wasn't talking about "brothers" in a spiritual sense. His mother was worried one time and sent his brothers, who she gave birth to, to check up on him.
It's in the Bible.

Where? Show me.

The pages that are stuck together. *nods*

I should have known better than to have clicked this thread. It's given me any number of mental images I didn't want. :eek:

Okie dokie. This is one of those threads that I'm amused and weirded out at the same time.

I share your sentiment...I was laughing for 5 mins straight at Brach's comment about not whipping.

I share your sentiment...I was laughing for 5 mins straight at Brach's comment about not whipping.

I laughed for about 5 mins at that…
Heh, "Whipping" :D

LOL no MrWho come back...

You know what I ment damn it...I've been drinking and its 2:30 am cut me some slack..Im STILL laughing at what Brach said...why would you think that women dont use restrooms like the rest of us....

His trolling is funny, because if it was a muslim acting this way, everyone would be bending over backwards to 'understand'.

C'est la vie multiculturel.

The pages that are stuck together. *nods*

Therefore you admit it says it not?

I'll start typing in Hebrew...enjoy translating that...

Anyways...

I would feel weird buying my underware from a vending machine...

America or not ENGLISH rules the world...so start using it...

You mean the English still have a stealth empire that we're not aware of?
Those sneaky Englishman. :eek:

You know what I ment damn it...I've been drinking and its 2:30 am cut me some slack..Im STILL laughing at what Brach said...why would you think that women dont use restrooms like the rest of us....

I think this whole thread's been drinking.

Yes they are a sneaky bunch of bastards...with their crumpets and tea and all that...

I think this whole thread's been drinking.

aye I'll drink to that..ya know a funny word

Bungalow...just say it a few times without breaking a smile...oddly enough for some reason I find the word panties amusing...could be because I still have the mischievous humor of a young boy..but who cares...

You mean the English still have a stealth empire that we're not aware of?
Those sneaky Englishman. :eek:

Here it is: English Stealthy Empire (http://www.roadsquadron.com/Reference/ANH/DS/DS1_01.jpg)
You know how you thought we had a moon? You were wrong.

aye I'll drink to that..ya know a funny word

Bungalow...just say it a few times without breaking a smile...oddly enough for some reason I find the word panties amusing...could be because I still have the mischievous humor of a young boy..but who cares...

It only took one time… :D
No, I haven't been drinking… but it's 2:42 here… everything is funny!

Here it is: English Stealthy Empire (http://www.roadsquadron.com/Reference/ANH/DS/DS1_01.jpg)
You know how you thought we had a moon? You were wrong.

I always thought they were the mole people...=P

His trolling is funny, because if it was a muslim acting this way, everyone would be bending over backwards to 'understand'.

C'est la vie multiculturel.

Good point.

Not sure it's true though as The Sadisco Room has shown - I'm sure both he and Gens Romae are in some way connected though.

It only took one time… :D

its even better when you start saying it in various accents from different nationalities..

Note that this is a Catholic belief and, as far as I know, not a Protestant one.

oh. ok then

Guys I have a question...what was this thread about again???? LOL:p

oh. ok then

I am still waiting for you to offer the verse saying that Our Lady sent his (literal) brothers to check up on him.

Good point.

Not sure it's true though as The Sadisco Room has shown - I'm sure both he and Gens Romae are in some way connected though.

:eek: *shock horror!* :eek:

its even better when you start saying it in various accents from different nationalities..

:D can only express my feelings.

oh. ok then

Brach, I'm still waiting for both your proof that Jesus had brothers as well as secular records to show Mary didn't sleep around.

GUYS I can settle this once and for all...Mary was a Virgin..unless you count anal.....let the fires roar :D

Therefore you admit it says it not?

It was a, uh, spunk joke.


How the hell would I know what it actually says?

You know what I ment damn it...I've been drinking and its 2:30 am cut me some slack..Im STILL laughing at what Brach said...why would you think that women dont use restrooms like the rest of us....

No I don't mean that.
People say that women are not able to hold it for very long so I think that if woman is far from restroom, she go in her undies.

Cause that what people say.

No I don't mean that.
People say that women are not able to hold it for very long so I think that if woman is far from restroom, she go in her undies.

Cause that what people say.

lol..w/e dude your whole post about leaving stuff on panties had my rolling for a good 10 mins...

Brach, I'm still waiting for both your proof that Jesus had brothers as well as secular records to show Mary didn't sleep around.

Are there any secular records to show that your mom hasn't slept around?

Hmm, the word 'bungalow' dates to the 17th century, and comes from the Hindi 'bańglā', meaning "belonging to Bengal". Interesting fact for you all.
*attempts to say "bungalow" with Indian accent*

GUYS I can settle this once and for all...Mary was a Virgin..unless you count anal.....let the fires roar :D

The actual quote is 'Mary will be entered in the annals of history' not the 'anals' - it's a common misconception :)

No I don't mean that.
People say that women are not able to hold it for very long so I think that if woman is far from restroom, she go in her undies.

Cause that what people say.

You need new people.

Are there any secular records to show that your mom hasn't slept around?

Alas the media just aren't interested.

Are there any secular records to show that your mom hasn't slept around?

*ba-dum-tish*

LOL..thx for the history of Bungalow...and Barringtonia I was trying to rattle some cages :P

LOL..thx for the history of Bungalow...and Barringtonia I was trying to rattle some cages :P

I was just extending the idea of the joke - though I know it's hard to tell who is and who isn't joking around this thread

well to help you absolutely nothing I say in the thread has any serious context to it...except for the english having a shadow empire of mole people and the word bungalow...

I said I doubt she would've slept around. There's a still a possibility she did. But there is no record.

So I think:


If Jesus is really incarnation of God it very unlikly she did.

But if Jesus wasn't what he claimed or what the Christians claimed, then it likely that Mary might have slept around. But people at the time didn't record who slept with who. The only things we have that close is who was married to who. And that gives some clue.

Though that might be reading muchos grandes into it.

I said I doubt she would've slept around. There's a still a possibility she did. But there is no record.

So I think:


If Jesus is really incarnation of God it very unlikly she did.

But if Jesus wasn't what he claimed or what the Christians claimed, then it likely that Mary might have slept around. But people at the time didn't record who slept with who. The only things we have that close is who was married to who. And that gives some clue.

Though that might be reading muchos grandes into it.


So you're saying now we keep records of this stuff...! :eek: I must have an entire archive dedicated to me starting in 9th grade until now

I said I doubt she would've slept around. There's a still a possibility she did. But there is no record.

So I think:


If Jesus is really incarnation of God it very unlikly she did.

But if Jesus wasn't what he claimed or what the Christians claimed, then it likely that Mary might have slept around. But people at the time didn't record who slept with who. The only things we have that close is who was married to who. And that gives some clue.

Though that might be reading muchos grandes into it.

People today do?

I beat you to it! :p

I beat you to it! :p

Yeah, I know.

*shakes fists*:p

I said I doubt she would've slept around. There's a still a possibility she did. But there is no record.

So I think:


If Jesus is really incarnation of God it very unlikly she did.

But if Jesus wasn't what he claimed or what the Christians claimed, then it likely that Mary might have slept around. But people at the time didn't record who slept with who. The only things we have that close is who was married to who. And that gives some clue.

Though that might be reading muchos grandes into it.

I think you should write to the Pope on this matter - he has a right to know this stuff.

This site say:



http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/faq/sisters.html



Matthew 13:55

"Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?"
Matthew 27:56


"Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children."


Mark 3:31

"There came then His Brethren and His Mother, and standing without, sent unto Him calling Him."
Mark 6:3

"Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the Brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him."


Ooh. He had sisters too.


Mark 15:40

"There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;"
Mark 16:1

"And when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the Mother of James, and Salome, had brought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint Him."


Matthew 1:24-25

"Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him HIS WIFE:

And knew her not Until she had brought forth her firstborn Son: and he called His name, Jesus!"

And when the bible say a man took a girl unto himself it mean he sexed her up.
And also if it say "a man knew his her" it also mean he sexed her up.


Matthew 12:46

"While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him."
John 2:12

"After this He went down to Capernaum, He, and His Mother, and His Brethren, and His disciples: and they continued there not many days."

John 7:3-5

"His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

For neither did his brethren believe in him."

Acts 1:14

"These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren."
Galatians 1:19


"But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother."

So you're saying now we keep records of this stuff...! :eek: I must have an entire archive dedicated to me starting in 9th grade until now

You keep records? :confused:

Snip

post, too long. subject, too late to care.

Matthew 13:55

"Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?"
Matthew 27:56

Prove that "brethren" is meant literally as maternal brothers.


"Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's children."

Prove that this Mary is the Mother of Our Lord

"There came then His Brethren and His Mother, and standing without, sent unto Him calling Him."
Mark 6:3

See my initial objection.

"Is not this the carpenter, the Son of Mary, the Brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him."

You realize, of course, that in the Hebrew tongue, "brother" could also have meant "cousin," yes?

"Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him HIS WIFE:

And knew her not Until she had brought forth her firstborn Son: and he called His name, Jesus!"

It doesn't say that he did know her, however. I've already adressed this.


That said, I think you've proven my point. At no point in the Bible is there ever a point saying "And Mary, the mother of Jesus, James...etc." It only says "Mary, the mother of Joses and James" or the like. Different Mary.

There is absolutely no biblical reason to believe Our Lady wasn't a virgin. Tradition says she was. The Magisterium says she is.

*snip*

It doesn't say that he did know her, however. I've already adressed this.


That said, I think you've proven my point. At no point in the Bible is there ever a point saying "And Mary, the mother of Jesus, James...etc." It only says "Mary, the mother of Joses and James" or the like. Different Mary.

There is absolutely no biblical reason to believe Our Lady wasn't a virgin. Tradition says she was. The Magisterium says she is.

This genuinely piques my interest - at what point was Mary referred to as a lifelong virgin? Is it explicitly stated in the Bible anywhere?

"Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him HIS WIFE:

And knew her not Until she had brought forth her firstborn Son: and he called His name, Jesus!"

That 'until' kind of strongly infers he 'knew' her after she'd given birth to Jesus. The second issue is that I can well believe 'brethren' could refer to cousins but why would that be assumed, isn't it just as, if not more, likely that it would refer to brothers?

This genuinely piques my interest - at what point was Mary referred to as a lifelong virgin? Is it explicitly stated in the Bible anywhere?

In the Bible? Who knows. But it appears in Sacred Tradition very, very early.


That 'until' kind of strongly infers he 'knew' her after she'd given birth to Jesus. The second issue is that I can well believe 'brethren' could refer to cousins but why would that be assumed, isn't it just as, if not more, likely that it would refer to brothers?

I've already adressed this. St. Jerome adressed this exhaustively. http://www.drbo.org

Go to Matthew 1:25, and see the commentary.

That said, no, it isn't any more likely. The Jews had very, very strong relationships with their extended family. Consider Our Lady's visitation to her cousin Elizabeth.

In the Bible? Who knows. But it appears in Sacred Tradition very, very early.

In the Bible there is none at all. It's not hard to verify.

The point about 'brethren' is very acceptable.

You know if you show a reaction like that, they're more likely to persist.

If anything, you should offer to tie one of them up. Say you'll bring your leash tomorrow if they're really that interested in wearing it.

Yeah, I know. I hate the double binds like that. I can't get pissed off because that's what they want, but I get pissed off even though I can't. Total Catch-22 here. But thanks. That is so deliciously evil. :D

Mary was the village bicycle with a truly gullible husband.

That is the best thing I've read in a while. I never laughed so hard in my life.

That's what I thought. I won't post any more offensive material against your mother, and I'll delete the last ones. However, whether you are willing to admit it or not, I think we both know that you probably took some degree of offense to what I said, even though I obviously didn't mean what I said, since I don't even know you or your mother.

Consider that next time you consider joking, or saying it's ok to joke, about Our Lady like that.

It's perfectly fine to joke about the "virgin" Mary (the hemphrodite). There is nothing wrong with it. After all, we can mock Mohammad and just about any other religious figure freely here. So, she's fair game and as good as any for NSG's meat grinder.

If you don't like it, you're really in the wrong place if you get so easily offended over something as trite as this.

Prove that.

It carries a sexual undertone.

At any given moment, anything on NSG can carry a sexual undertone.

i hear theres underwear vending machines in japan

C'mon, they've got vending machines for everything there, why shouldn't there be one for undies? :)

Dude, it is the language of the Philosophers and of the Church.

And NSG is not the Church so...

Show me in the Bible where it says Mary is still a virgin and show where in the Bible it says the Mary is now the mother of all humans.

Wasn't Eve the maternal progenitor?

Guys I have a question...what was this thread about again???? LOL:p

Holy knickers. :)

GUYS I can settle this once and for all...Mary was a Virgin..unless you count anal.....let the fires roar :D

Ear sex. ;)

I came upon a site that says "panties are the closest thing to heaven".
Depends on the definition of heaven, of course.


But it just struck me that I don't agree with that statement. Panties aren't the closest thing to heaven, they're disgusting. I mean don't people realize what it is that chicks do to their undies?
They be doing number 1 and number 2 in them probably.
Like guys, actually, they usually REMOVE them before doing #1 and #2. I do hope you remember to remove your underwear before #1 and #2.:p


Not to mention that other stuff that chicks be doing in them. And did I mention that nasty thing called sweating? And if they're sweating you never know what diseases they might have.
Do you think that only sick people sweat? :rolleyes:


Panties aren't heaven, they're just plain gross.

It depends. Not to insult the girls you've known (in the Biblical meaning of it), but usually I prefer girls who wash and clean their bodies and their clothing quite often. And yes, the smell of a clean ... can be extremely erotic.;)

In the Bible? Who knows. But it appears in Sacred Tradition very, very early.


Weren't you arguing yesterday that there was no conflict between scripture and traditions?

Here's a perfect example of conflict.

Did Jesus have brothers and sisters? You've pointed to Jerome's argument, and you've sugested that the word translated as brethren COULD also mean 'cousin'.

While this is true, if we look at Acts 1:14, for example, we see the word translated as 'brethren' is 'adelphos', which pretty much literally means 'from the same womb'.

So: "These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren." strongly suggests literal brothers.

Knowing he HAD literal brothers, cross-referencing with Mark 6:3

"Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him."

We know that Jesus was 'the carpenter', and the son of Mary. This makes him the literal brother of at least 4 male siblings, and at least 2 female.

It is also worth considering that Joseph and Mary were man and wife - either before or after the conception of Jesus. Before or after doesn't matter in this case - what is important is that the Jewish culture of the time required that marriage be consummated. If it wasn't consummated, it wasn't recognised.

Therefore - either before or after the conception of Jesus, his parents MUST have bumped uglies.

Brethren doesn't even mean "brothers" in English...
Of course that has nothing to do with what the word was in Hebrew.

Brethren doesn't even mean "brothers" in English...
Of course that has nothing to do with what the word was in Hebrew.

No, it's the plural of brother.

http://www.answers.com/brethren&r=67

No, it's the plural of brother.

http://www.answers.com/brethren&r=67
Ok, I will see your definition of brethren and raise you a definition of brother.

broth·er (brŭth'ər) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. broth·ers

1. A male having the same parents as another or one parent in common with another.
2. pl. also breth·ren (brěth'rən) One who shares a common ancestry, allegiance, character, or purpose with another or others, especially:
1. A kinsman.
2. A fellow man.
3. A fellow member, as of a fraternity, trade union, or panel of judges on a court.
4. A close male friend; a comrade.
5. A fellow African-American man or boy.
6. Abbr. Br. or Bro. A member of a men's religious order who is not in holy orders but engages in the work of the order.
7. A lay member of a religious order of men.
8. pl. also brethren A fellow member of the Christian church.
3. pl. also brethren Something, such as a corporation or institution, that is regarded as a member of a class: "A station that ... relies on corporate contributions or advertising to survive runs the risk of becoming virtually indistinguishable from its commercial brethren" (W. John Moore).
4.
1. Abbr. Br. or Bro. A member of a men's religious order who is not in holy orders but engages in the work of the order.
2. A lay member of a religious order of men.
3. pl. also brethren A fellow member of the Christian church.

Brethren doesn't even mean "brothers" in English...
Of course that has nothing to do with what the word was in Hebrew.

And Hebrew has nothing to do with Greek scripture?

Ok, I will see your definition of brethren and raise you a definition of brother.

What is the first, main, and most accurate interpretation of the word 'brother'?

What is the most likely, logical and common interpretation of the word 'adelphos'?

Why dig down a list of possible translations until you find a meaning that matches less well in context... just to support a peculiar idea about some esoteric connection in the text?

What is the first, main, and most accurate interpretation of the word 'brother'?
Irrelevant. In English, brethren can and is used to mean something other than blood-related brother. What the original word means or is is irrelevant.

Gens Romae, since your moderation thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532036) was closed, and it probably wouldn't have been appropriate, I'll address your assertion that the comments here constitute defamation and obscenity here.

The case for defamation fails because:
1) The subject is not a real person.
2) The statements are "fair comment on a matter of public interest".
3) The subject is a public figure.

The case for obscenity fails because "the Virgin Mary's knickers are much closer to heaven that yours" does not describe or depict sexual conduct at all, much less in an offensive way.

Prove that.

It is not incumbent upon me to prove that your fairl tale is true.

It carries a sexual undertone.

It may carry a suggestive undertone, but to fit the definition of obscenity itr needs to explicitly describe sexual conduct.

You fail again.

Irrelevant.

Why? The Greek scripture isn't an especially esoteric text. Where specific peculiar connotations are needed, the words are pretty much taken on an ad hoc basis, the way we do in English.

On the other hand, most of the text is 'common' language. And the interesting thing about 'common' language is that you can basically work out the usage... by working out which usage is most common.

You explain to me why common usage is irrelevent, and you might have a point.

At the moment, you are bringing nothing to the table.

Ok, I will see your definition of brethren and raise you a definition of brother.

Brethren is also the archaic version of brother, so... it works both ways. ;)

Why? The Greek scripture isn't an especially esoteric text. Where specific peculiar connotations are needed, the words are pretty much taken on an ad hoc basis, the way we do in English.
Not. the. point.
In English, brethren does not have to mean blood-related brother. What the original word in Greek or Hebrew that we got "brethren" from in the text means has nothing to do with that fact.
If "adelphos" specifically means "blood-related brother," great, that is not what brethren always means. English is a far less specific language than most.