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And the second the mods think he might be a DC he'll get picked off like a Palestinian in Tel Aviv.

What if it isn't DCD? *remembers Guy Incognito*

A rather popular, but somewhat controversial Generlite is DoS. Many mourne his passing.

Now, all we have to do is give it about four years for the memory, indeed the Legend to grow, and viola, he is allowed to return.

Deja Vu. Wait! it HAS happened before!

Anyway, See ya in four years or so DCD.

Why are you people glorifying this troll with a thread?

Why are you people glorifying this troll with a thread?

Would I be wrong in saying that your labelling DCD as a troll has something to do with Israel?

I'm going to regret this.

Why are you people glorifying this troll with a thread?

1. He was our troll.

2. He was popular.

3. It's tradition.

You may not yet be aware of this fact, but Drunk Commies deleted has been…well…deleted, and been given DoS status.

I bet most of NSG trolls will take the deletion of DCD as the proof that this forum is full of godless commies and ruled by KGB officers to boot.:rolleyes:
Trolls... gotta catch 'em all!;)

1. He was our troll.
Amen.

I bet most of NSG trolls will take the deletion of DCD as the proof that this forum is full of godless commies and ruled by KGB officers to boot.:rolleyes:
Trolls... gotta catch 'em all!;)

You mean it's not? Damn, I'm in the wrong place.:D

You mean it's not? Damn, I'm in the wrong place.:D

If all NSGers had my same political opinion, this place would bore me out of my skull. ;)
Luckily, I could give the name of at least four fellow NSGers that aren't comrades. Guess who...

Da. In Soviet NSG... oh wait...;)

I bet most of NSG trolls will take the deletion of DCD as the proof that this forum is full of godless commies and ruled by KGB officers to boot.:rolleyes:
Trolls... gotta catch 'em all!;)

Sigged!

You may not yet be aware of this fact, but Drunk Commies deleted has been…well…deleted, and been given DoS status. The details of his ignoble demise can be found

so he committed the most heinous of NSG crimes and has been deleted/executed... No parole nor rehabilitation?

he will be missed, but this seems somehow fitting...

Sigged!

YAY!:fluffle:

YAY!:fluffle:

:):fluffle::D

Why are you people glorifying this troll with a thread?

Oh please. DCD was no troll.

so he committed the most heinous of NSG crimes and has been deleted/executed... No parole nor rehabilitation? No, that's the thing. He fucked up multiple times...but he was not near the calibre of those that normally get a DoS order.

third strike rule?

Oh please. DCD was no troll.

The poster that created Jesussaves not a troll? Really?

The poster that created Jesussaves not a troll? Really?

To paraphrase Blackadder, "Yes, it's spontaneous and it's called wit." Jesussaves was an enormous source of chuckles, titters and guffaws. It's a pity that so much of it seems lost on so many of you - though I really shouldn't be too surprised...

To paraphrase Blackadder, "Yes, it's spontaneous and it's called wit." Jesussaves was an enormous source of chuckles, titters and guffaws. It's a pity that so much of it seems lost on so many of you - though I really shouldn't be too surprised...

Come now, you know that a funny troll is still a troll, especially one as memorable as Jesussaves.

Let's not posthumously ascribe divine powers to DC, or talk about how we always wished we could have his babies.

I'm looking at YOU LG.

I'm fairly certain that, on more than one occasion before now, I've requested him to have my babies or for me to have his.

DCD's the man, and I feel kind of sorry for those of you who didn't understand his humor, because it really was top-notch.

DCD's the man, and I feel kind of sorry for those of you who didn't understand his humor, because it really was top-notch.

Yes- the off beat news stories and his insight on them was hysterical. I havent been around much and just found out he was deleted again.

If he doesnt return, I'll lose most of what little interest I still have in NS.

He's clever and witty and bold. Not dull,tiresome and stupid, like most of whats left here.

Yes- the off beat news stories and his insight on them was hysterical. I havent been around much and just found out he was deleted again.

If he doesnt return, I'll lose most of what little interest I still have in NS.

He's clever and witty and bold. Not dull,tiresome and stupid, like most of whats left here.

I salute you....

Gee thanks :P

But yeah, frick. What other long time poster has been slapped with such a harsh sentence? Even Eut is allowed to come back...

The poster that created Jesussaves not a troll? Really?

No. Else he would have trolled as DC.

Gee thanks :P

But yeah, frick. What other long time poster has been slapped with such a harsh sentence? Even Eut is allowed to come back...

dont be personally offended-A lot of the issues you post on are of little interest to me.

It doesnt mean I like you less, I dont come in here to get bored though.

dont be personally offended-A lot of the issues you post on are of little interest to me. Na, I already knew that, no worries. It's been less interesting since the PG-13 status was instated, that's for sure. I rarely read DC's threads, but I still liked having him around.

It doesnt mean I like you less, I dont come in here to get bored though.
Well, it's almost inevitable, as we keep losing the good posters.

Glad he's gone. I only wish deleted nations left a grave for me to dance on.

..

Wasn't DCD the NS Pope?

..?


.....:eek::(

I've read why he was banned. He won't be missed by me.

I totally agree with the ban - though I would prefer it to be a permanent IP ban.

He's been calling for an illegal activity (one of the sickest, in some people's books THE sickest - rape) and has been warned repeatedly. The mods have been very lenient, even to the extent that the ban seems to be temporary.

In short, he deserved AT LEAST a temporary ban.

I've read why he was banned. He won't be missed by me.

I totally agree with the ban - though I would prefer it to be a permanent IP ban.

He's been calling for an illegal activity (one of the sickest, in some people's books THE sickest - rape) and has been warned repeatedly. The mods have been very lenient, even to the extent that the ban seems to be temporary.

In short, he deserved AT LEAST a temporary ban.

Looking for attention, hm?

Seems he finally figured out where to voice his opinion instead of gravedigging...

http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/No-Darth_Vader.jpg
End of an era...:(

Maybe we should all just follow DCD to whatever message board he decides to migrate to.

Maybe we should all just follow DCD to whatever message board he decides to migrate to.

Insert "there are other message boards?" joke here.

Maybe we should all just follow DCD to whatever message board he decides to migrate to.

He used to have a board called unmoderatedparadise. Wonder if it's still around.

He used to have a board called unmoderatedparadise. Wonder if it's still around.


oh cool! I bet a cool message board would be the stephen colbert forum - I'm sure they appreciate a good sense of humor there at least

oh cool! I bet a cool message board would be the stephen colbert forum - I'm sure they appreciate a good sense of humor there at least

Google is our friend (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/archive/o_f__f_2__general.html)!

Google is our friend (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/archive/o_f__f_2__general.html)!

I registered just in case :D

I registered just in case :D

You registered Google? I didn't even know you could do that...

You registered Google? I didn't even know you could do that...

See, you learn something new every day! :)

Actually you can if you get GMail

I meant that I signed up with DCD's old forum that Sinner found.

You registered Google? I didn't even know you could do that...

See, you learn something new every day! :)

Even Eut is allowed to come back...

Even you were allowed to come back. *nods*

Whaaaaaaa, we will miss you DC. I am crying, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Couldn't stay away, may be a more appropriate description.

Yes well. Couldn't stay away AND was allowed back. And look who's talking!

Even you were allowed to come back. *nods*

Couldn't stay away, may be a more appropriate description.

Yes well. Couldn't stay away AND was allowed back. And look who's talking!

Why is it you always have to get the first word in? (Stop timewarping me.)

I never said I wasn't as bad, did I now?

You registered Google? I didn't even know you could do that...

Yeah, you should too (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/viewforum.php?f=2).

Why is it you always have to get the first word in? (Stop timewarping me.) Hahahaha...once again...look who's talking!

I never said I wasn't as bad, did I now?
You know, it comes to my attention that you and I haven't mauled each other in a thread-death-match lately.

Here's a thought. How come Zilam didn't report DC whenever HE made threads of the likes of mine? :confused: Technically by his interpretation rules he should have been penalized earlier, or is it just the usual bias and favoritism? :confused:

I work in mysterious ways my boy. ;)

Why are you people glorifying this troll with a thread?

Isn't there a saying something like..."It takes a troll to know a troll"?:D:p

http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/No-Darth_Vader.jpg
End of an era...:(

I swear that I shall make the era continue. ;)

DCD's deletion is part of a long string of events leading to NS going downhill since around late 04.

DCD's deletion is part of a long string of events leading to NS going downhill since around late 04.

Did that trend start in March of 04, by any chance? :D

Would I be wrong in saying that your labelling DCD as a troll has something to do with Israel?

I'm going to regret this. DCD was banned because of Israel???

DCD was banned because of Israel???

If that were the case then you would have been banned a long time ago. ;)

blame the jooz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgb8Clnj0lo

i hate it when this happens, goodbye comrade.

Yeah, you should too (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/viewforum.php?f=2).

" Drunk Commies? Any Drunk Commies around here?" LOL I hope he shows up. :D

If that were the case then you would have been banned a long time ago. ;)

blame the joozI was banned for...

ahh never mind.

Gee thanks :P

But yeah, frick. What other long time poster has been slapped with such a harsh sentence? Even Eut is allowed to come back...

The Mods let Beeks back. Eventually they'll let DC back. It is only a mattewr of time. *see my earlier post on the subject*

Maybe we should all just follow DCD to whatever message board he decides to migrate to.

Seconded.

Mind you, I'm bummed about just about everything just now.

The Mods let Beeks back. Eventually they'll let DC back. It is only a mattewr of time. *see my earlier post on the subject*

Do you guys not realize the mods already let him back once before and that he blew his second chance??

Do you guys not realize the mods already let him back once before and that he blew his second chance??

Yes I am aware of that. I was there for his original deating, and participated in the inevitable protest. Beeks return is why I am not too worried about DCDs getting the boot: He'll be back.

DC has had more than one nation deated... and he also evaded a forum ban....
Wasn't beeks IP banned?

DC has had more than one nation deated... and he also evaded a forum ban....
Wasn't beeks IP banned?

No, I believe he was DoS until recently.

*has never been deated* Although if I remember correctly I did get a warning once for talking about getting away with setting hobos on fire.

No, I believe he was DoS until recently.

They actually lifted a DoS order? or did beeks just get around it?

*has never been deated* Although if I remember correctly I did get a warning once for talking about getting away with setting hobos on fire.

I got a week forumban for consistently quoting a nameless warrant officer from Catch-22 who said "Who gives a shit?"

I got a week forumban for consistently quoting a nameless warrant officer from Catch-22 who said "Who gives a shit?"

Jesus fuck that's harsh.

I told a noob poster, of the "I don't read the OP, the article linked, or the thread, but I'm going to stick my ignorant opinion in here anyway" variety, to have... well, I can't repeat it. It involved concrete, squares, wood, and Sodom - and I got a warning. Thought that was fair.

Course it might matter which mod catches you doing it - I had Katganistan. I dunno if Frisbee or Hack would've been harsher.

I got a week forumban for consistently quoting a nameless warrant officer from Catch-22 who said "Who gives a shit?"sometimes you think you know what you are banned for.. yet its more complicated.

When I was banned.. I could not even check why (the ban blocked my access to the forum).. so I did what I had to do, and logged as a lurker.. and rushed to my latest posts/threads to see if there was some ruling (found nothing)

So I went to moderation to find any complains, and I found one, someone asking if it was ilegal for me to say "loser".

and I could not believe I was banned for that..
So I made my own thread asking why I was banned (the title was OcceanDrive banned for nothing.. nothing I can see)..yup I made a fool of myself..

My thread was locked.. as it turned I was banned for "something".
and something I was previously warned about. (i did believe I had complied with the warning.. but thats besides the point)

Wow that sucks. Talk about disloyalty. Sure the guy made a few obsene posts. However, should a few mistakes "end a life?"

My guess is the mods must have had something personal against him. I moderate a couple forums myself, so I know what it's like when someone you really dislike is/has become very popular/accepted by others posting. Makes you want to delete him, and you'll look for any excuse to do it.

I really liked his amusing stories, sucks that their gone. Bah, I'm an occasional poster myself, and I really don't see why I'd spend to much more time here, knowing if I slip up once or twice I could suffer the wrath from above!!

From what I read, the guy has been posting here for years. To boot someone permanetly, who is interested in this forum and enjoys participating here is just mind boogling to me.

Just goes to show, as much as we like to think we have freedom of speech here, we're really at the mercy of mods. This is obviously not a democracy.

It's been so long since I joined that I can't remember when Drunk Commies Deleted ever insulted me (although I'm pretty sure that he did at some stage). Still, it's a sad day when one of those steady posters who has been there for what seems like ages is deleted. So, goodbye, Drunk Commies Deleted!

They actually lifted a DoS order? or did beeks just get around it?

No, they lifted it, though Beeks started resuming his old habits soon afterwards.

I should remind everyone that in that case it was at least three years since the DoS order was instated before it was lifted. As it is the only DoS order ever lifted, we must presume that DCD will be DoS for at least that long even if it will be rescinded.

sometimes you think you know what you are banned for.. yet its more complicated.

I read the forums, and logged in on Gabbly. I posted once under a different name, but that's all.

*complaints*
Nope.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12780704&postcount=40

Jesus fuck that's harsh.
It was esstenially spam as those responses had nothing to do with the topics at hand.

Guys come on, DCD was big enough, old enough and wise enough to know where the line was. So he was popular. So what? Popular kids don't get a pass with the rules. A lot of people will miss his contributions but that still doesn't excuse his breaking of the rules - consistently. He's gone through several nations like this.

The forum royalty are not above the law.

Jesus fuck that's harsh.

I told a noob poster, of the "I don't read the OP, the article linked, or the thread, but I'm going to stick my ignorant opinion in here anyway" variety, to have... well, I can't repeat it. It involved concrete, squares, wood, and Sodom - and I got a warning. Thought that was fair.

Course it might matter which mod catches you doing it - I had Katganistan. I dunno if Frisbee or Hack would've been harsher.

For me, it was Hack and Cthulhu.

Well, if you're missing DCD terribly, you can always visit (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/forum-2.html).

It was esstenially spam as those responses had nothing to do with the topics at hand.

Guys come on, DCD was big enough, old enough and wise enough to know where the line was. So he was popular. So what? Popular kids don't get a pass with the rules. A lot of people will miss his contributions but that still doesn't excuse his breaking of the rules - consistently. He's gone through several nations like this.

The forum royalty are not above the law.
Spare us the forum royalty line.

What other poster that has been around a decent length of time has been given a DoS? Even Eut gets to come back, and he had how many warnings and bans? A freakin' lot.

The 'line' shifts. Constantly. He hadn't had an infraction for TWO YEARS, but that didn't seem to matter. So watch out. The longer you stick around, the more likely you are to get DoSed.

Well, if you're missing DCD terribly, you can always visit (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/forum-2.html).

I have that bookmarked. =)

It was esstenially spam as those responses had nothing to do with the topics at hand.

Guys come on, DCD was big enough, old enough and wise enough to know where the line was. So he was popular. So what? Popular kids don't get a pass with the rules. A lot of people will miss his contributions but that still doesn't excuse his breaking of the rules - consistently. He's gone through several nations like this.

The forum royalty are not above the law.

The rules are not the pope. They can be wrong, they can be bent, they can be ignored for the sake of a well-known friend.

Spare us the forum royalty line.

What other poster that has been around a decent length of time has been given a DoS? Even Eut gets to come back, and he had how many warnings and bans? A freakin' lot.

The 'line' shifts. Constantly. He hadn't had an infraction for TWO YEARS, but that didn't seem to matter. So watch out. The longer you stick around, the more likely you are to get DoSed.

Hai. If one of the mods got drunk and flew off the handle on a few posts one night, I would hold nothing against them and would not recommend punishment one. It was an accident, or it was forgiveable, or it was worth its weight in laughter - whichever reason given, they've been here long enough to be more than just mods, as was DCD more than just a poster; they're both friends and role models, regardless of what inane rules they may break. They're more important to this forum than the consequences of allowing it to slide.


Also, I just realized we keep going back to the mod ruling -_- The OP specifically stated that this was not the thread for it, and I feel bad for continuing it, but I had to get that off my chest, and I'd already typed and quoted all this stuff...

Sorry.

Well the mod thread has been closed so, yeah.

That's the thing...sure, there are posters who come and go, and don't really give a shit about this place. But there is a core community here as well. Not even just the oldtimers...some new posters slip into it quickly. Do we just shun a community member for a single infraction after two years? Do we say, hey, he did all these other things way back when, let's continue to hold it against him? It doesn't make sense. What does it accomplish? Is anything around here going to change because of it? Not for the better it won't.

Well the mod thread has been closed so, yeah.

That's the thing...sure, there are posters who come and go, and don't really give a shit about this place. But there is a core community here as well. Not even just the oldtimers...some new posters slip into it quickly. Do we just shun a community member for a single infraction after two years? Do we say, hey, he did all these other things way back when, let's continue to hold it against him? It doesn't make sense. What does it accomplish? Is anything around here going to change because of it?

No Neesika, that simply makes too much sense.

Course it might matter which mod catches you doing it - I had Katganistan. I dunno if Frisbee or Hack would've been harsher.

I think Kat's often a teeny bit tougher then Fris and Hack. Not sure if this is right, though.

Well, if you're missing DCD terribly, you can always visit (http://unmoderatedparadise.forumsplace.com/forum-2.html).

Now that I've seen the infamous image and read the infamous DCD post, all I can say is, "That's it?" The post was a bit over the top, but I was at least expecting an actual photo of a live model, not a cartoon image of something you could just as easily see on Cartoon Network (well, maybe Adult Swim). Mods, you've over-reacted.

Just the opinion of one of the "pricks" on this board.

not a cartoon image of something you could just as easily see on Cartoon Network (well, maybe Adult Swim). Mods, you've over-reacted.

Well, if not specifically adult swim (They seem to be more geared towards violence and foul language being allowed then bondage.) certainly other places on cable TV. South Park, for example, probably has a similar image in it somewhere.

The mods seem to be building up a LOT of resentment from the community at large for banning DCD.

I already miss him... :(

Now that I've seen the infamous image and read the infamous DCD post, all I can say is, "That's it?" The post was a bit over the top, but I was at least expecting an actual photo of a live model, not a cartoon image of something you could just as easily see on Cartoon Network (well, maybe Adult Swim). Mods, you've over-reacted.

Just the opinion of one of the "pricks" on this board.

he was banned for wishing that someone would get gang raped, which had already been established as a bannable offense.

he was banned for wishing that someone would get gang raped, which had already been established as a bannable offense.

Yup.

But the image was also listed as a reason, and described in a fashion which made it seem to be much, much worse than it actually was.

I think Kat's often a teeny bit tougher then Fris and Hack. Not sure if this is right, though.

Eh...I don't think so. But it probably depends.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/DCD.jpg
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http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/DCD.jpg
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Eh, I don't think I'm getting it.
Your first pic was damn funny, though. :)

The thread in Moderation is closed now, I notice. But I don't think this is over.

Spare us the forum royalty line.

What other poster that has been around a decent length of time has been given a DoS? Even Eut gets to come back, and he had how many warnings and bans? A freakin' lot.

The 'line' shifts. Constantly. He hadn't had an infraction for TWO YEARS, but that didn't seem to matter. So watch out. The longer you stick around, the more likely you are to get DoSed.

No way Sin.

The rules are clear, and they apply to all of us equally. It is not a matter of how long you are around, it is a matter of whether you respect those rules or not. DCD broke them, was warned - in very clear terms - he was not told "Be a good boy for the next x months and your record will be cleared". He was told that he had received a FINAL warning. He infringed again, he suffered the penalty that had been explicitly detailed to him.

Now if you want to think that the mods should warn, but then not apply the punishment, I suggest you try this with your children. Or do you hold to the line, like I do, that if you can't stand the heat get out od the kitchen?

No way Sin.

The rules are clear, and they apply to all of us equally. It is not a matter of how long you are around, it is a matter of whether you respect those rules or not. DCD broke them, was warned - in very clear terms - he was not told "Be a good boy for the next x months and your record will be cleared". He was told that he had received a FINAL warning. He infringed again, he suffered the penalty that had been explicitly detailed to him.

Now if you want to think that the mods should warn, but then not apply the punishment, I suggest you try this with your children. Or do you hold to the line, like I do, that if you can't stand the heat get out od the kitchen?

You will always find me in the laundry at parties!

I think the mods have two quite distinct obligations:

To keep the forums pleasant for most regular posters. In this, they enforce the unwritten and changeable ethos of the forum. The best example of this is the intolerance of "trolling." Trolling is not a crime under any country's laws, yet we know it when we see it, and don't want it.
To maintain the legal status of the forum. The PG-13 or whatever rating is the most tricky of those, but few object to the bluntly legal requirements of not conspiring to commit crimes, distributing illegal material etc.


It seems to me that DCD, by posting in the same day two posts which were bannable in each of those mod ways, has essentially committed SUICIDE BY MOD.

I am not the first to suggest that. Was it Dempublicants?

So, contradicting myself from earlier in this thread, shouldn't we just take it onboard as someone else's learning, that: when you have tried everything else, posted your guts out and broken every rule trying to convince others of what you are not-so-certain about yourself, there is always ...

matyrdom?

Now here's the thing I don't get... why are we being kept to an American rating on a British forum? And on top of that, a rating that recommends "parental guidance".

This is an international forum, for an Australian game, only the host is British, and the bulk of the users are American. Jolt doesn't moderate NS forums, and the PG-13 system is the best so there :p

This is an international forum, for an Australian game, only the host is British, and the bulk of the users are American. Jolt doesn't moderate NS forums, and the PG-13 system is the best so there :p

I will rise up against and repel the invaders, then replace the rating with the equivalent BBFC rating. And yes I'm really that pedantic. Also, the MPAA way of doing things is clearly flawed. There's a bunch of rating at boths ends but nothing in the middle :confused: I much prefer the OFLC way of doing things.

Eh...I don't think so. But it probably depends.

What I remember is Euroslavia was incredibly strict on NSG. S/he locked threads that probably wouldn't even have been reported to moderation, let alone locked by the other mods. I haven't seen him/her on NSG for a while though. Maybe she quit or something.

Eh, I don't think I'm getting it.
Your first pic was damn funny, though. :)

The thread in Moderation is closed now, I notice. But I don't think this is over.

Oh, I was just looking through my NSG album on Photobucket and I found that image from last winter. It had something to do with Il Ruffino, but I can't quite recall the context. Anyway, it shows Jupiter being hit by a chunk of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9, the message being that DcD was somehow (however improbably) involved.

More of an afterthought than anything, but what the Hell. I got to use it a second time.

It seems to me that DCD, by posting in the same day two posts which were bannable in each of those mod ways, has essentially committed SUICIDE BY MOD.


Did you even see the image in question? I doubt any of us (who have) would have believed that image was enough to get someone banned.

So. He made ONE post in TWO FUCKING YEARS that merited a forumban. Hardly suicide by mod.

Now if you want to think that the mods should warn, but then not apply the punishment, I suggest you try this with your children. Or do you hold to the line, like I do, that if you can't stand the heat get out od the kitchen?

I don't resort to ultimatums such as 'if you do that again I'm going to lock you in your room and never let you out'. Or, 'once more and you never get to talk to me again'.

The punishment is excessive.

So we lost another. The trolling race is dying off.

he was banned for wishing that someone would get gang raped, which had already been established as a bannable offense.

Yup.

But the image was also listed as a reason, and described in a fashion which made it seem to be much, much worse than it actually was.

While some keep focusing on the image, I believe my earlier posting made it quite clear that it was the wish for people, in front of their children, to be raped by HiV positive patients that triggered these events. The image was, as it were, the whipped cream on the sundae.

He had been warned clearly before by a two week forum ban and the explicit instruction that he was on notice that further infractions would result in deletion.

In that situation, I would think someone would not make the mistake of repeating the same comment. But that's just me, apparently.

No way Sin.

The rules are clear, and they apply to all of us equally. It is not a matter of how long you are around, it is a matter of whether you respect those rules or not. DCD broke them, was warned - in very clear terms - he was not told "Be a good boy for the next x months and your record will be cleared". He was told that he had received a FINAL warning. He infringed again, he suffered the penalty that had been explicitly detailed to him.

Now if you want to think that the mods should warn, but then not apply the punishment, I suggest you try this with your children. Or do you hold to the line, like I do, that if you can't stand the heat get out od the kitchen?

I'd like to even throw in the suggestion that this outrage is all about a popularity contest and inner circle politicking. Had it been a complete stranger who did the exact same offense and got booted, nobody here crying foul at the mods would have wept for said stranger and might have even said "Good Riddance" or "Justice was served."

Now here's the thing I don't get... why are we being kept to an American rating on a British forum? And on top of that, a rating that recommends "parental guidance".

The rating reflects Max's wishes to keep the game appropriate for the schools that use the game as an enrichment to their social studies/government courses.

I'd like to even throw in the suggestion that this outrage is all about a popularity contest and inner circle politicking. Had it been a complete stranger who did the exact same offense and got booted, nobody here crying foul at the mods would have wept for said stranger and might have even said "Good Riddance" or "Justice was served."

All you have are your assumptions. The entire point is...there ARE no complete strangers when it comes to those who have been posting here a substantial amount of time.

Except wait. Who are you? :P

I love your conspiracy theory though. I always wanted to be an inner circle politcker.

All you have are your assumptions. The entire point is...there ARE no complete strangers when it comes to those who have been posting here a substantial amount of time.

Except wait. Who are you? :P

I love your conspiracy theory though. I always wanted to be an inner circle politcker.

And your point there is that "Seniority ought to be exempt from the forum rules." Which basically boils down to a popularity contest. Occeandrive's been posting his "J00z r 0ut t0 get us" threads for a long time and I don't see you defending him the few times he got banned.

Wouldn't it be weird if DCD was the troll and JesusSaves had been the actual person?

Wouldn't it be weird if DCD was the troll and JesusSaves had been the actual person?
*explodes* :eek:

Except wait. Who are you? :PAllow me to introduce Monsieur Gauthier, he is allrite, he is most of the time on the money.. except when he says I am anti-semite ;)
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I love your conspiracy theory though. well, there is a lot of power-players here, some have amazingly deep knowledge, some have very-high IQ.. and most have great debating skills and good sense of humor.. So there is going to be some ego-trips and Popularity contest.. and /or penis waving contests..

-- most of us do love to compete. its only human.

all of that is what makes this place so interesting.

And your point there is that "Seniority ought to be exempt from the forum rules." Which basically boils down to a popularity contest. Occeandrive's been posting his "J00z r 0ut t0 get us" threads for a long time and I don't see you defending him the few times he got banned.

1) I never said senior posters should be exempt. I don't support a DoS order for posters when they have mostly been behaving. ESPECIALLY when the last bannable action happened two years ago. A DoS order, IMO, should be reserved for the kind of poster who poses serious disruption to the forums.

2) I've never defended DC from getting a forumban. His post merits a forumban.

3) We are talking about a Delete on Sight, not a fucking forumban.

4) OcceanDrive isn't DoS. Else I'd be defending his ass too. In fact...name me one long-time poster that IS DoS.

5) Is all of this coming together for you? Or do you not actually bother to read my posts, and just make up random shit anyway?

1) I never said senior posters should be exempt. I don't support a DoS order for posters when they have mostly been behaving. ESPECIALLY when the last bannable action happened two years ago. A DoS order, IMO, should be reserved for the kind of poster who poses serious disruption to the forums.

2) I've never defended DC from getting a forumban. His post merits a forumban.

3) We are talking about a Delete on Sight, not a fucking forumban.

4) OcceanDrive isn't DoS. Else I'd be defending his ass too. In fact...name me one long-time poster that IS DoS.

5) Is all of this coming together for you? Or do you not actually bother to read my posts, and just make up random shit anyway?

The Delete on Sight wasn't something tossed at him out of the blue. You read those threads Kat linked to and he was explicitly warned that doing it again would result in a Delete on Sight. He flaunted it and he got what was coming. You're crying that it was overkill, despite the fact that the mods made it clear it was on the table as an option if he decided to be an asshat and do what he was warned not to.

Basically your call for wanting DCD exempted from a fairly declared threat of DoS carries the same impact as Paris Hilton crying "It's Not Fair."

The Delete on Sight wasn't something tossed at him out of the blue. You read those threads Kat linked to and he was explicitly warned that doing it again would result in a Delete on Sight. He flaunted it and he got what was coming. You're crying that it was overkill, despite the fact that the mods made it clear it was on the table as an option if he decided to be an asshat and do what he was warned not to.

Two years ago. The warning was given two years ago, and this was his first bannable offence in all that time. You see it one way, and that's fine. I don't really care. I see it as excessive, and I see it as not taking into account the fact that he has been posting within the rules for a long period of time. He fucked up, and made a stupid post worth a forumban. His behaviour on NS is NOT so disruptive as to merit a DoS. In my opinion.

Since we differ on this issue, let that be a final statement on the matter, in terms of us posting at one another. I mean...heaven forbid you back down on the various empty assumptions you've made (Suicide by mod, not defending OcceanDrive, seniority carte blanche).

Two years ago. The warning was given two years ago, and this was his first bannable offence in all that time. You see it one way, and that's fine. I don't really care. I see it as excessive, and I see it as not taking into account the fact that he has been posting within the rules for a long period of time. He fucked up, and made a stupid post worth a forumban. His behaviour on NS is NOT so disruptive as to merit a DoS. In my opinion.

Since we differ on this issue, let that be a final statement on the matter, in terms of us posting at one another. I mean...heaven forbid you back down on the various empty assumptions you've made (Suicide by mod, not defending OcceanDrive, seniority carte blanche).

The warning was still valid even after two years and no mod rescinded the threat of DoS.

And frankly, if I fucked up just as much and got a DoS everyone would be celebrating assuming anyone actually noticed and gave a shit in the first place.

The warning was still valid even after two years and no mod rescinded the threat of DoS.

And frankly, if I fucked up just as much and got a DoS everyone would be celebrating assuming anyone actually noticed and gave a shit in the first place.

Ah, so it is about popularity after all.


Well.

Ah, so it is about popularity after all.


Well.

Like I said, DCD was popular so he's getting all these worshippers protesting his well-deserved DoS order.

Like I said, DCD was popular so he's getting all these worshippers protesting his well-deserved DoS order.

Well, that's your perception of it, anyway. But you're coming across as sounding sour that you aren't as popular as someone else. It's a little unbecoming.

Well, that's your perception of it, anyway. But you're coming across as sounding sour that you aren't as popular as someone else. It's a little unbecoming.

Like I said the first time on this thread, it's not jealousy. It's incredulity and incomprehension at how people would wish special treatment on something that others in their place would have little or no choice but to abide by.

Just like people wanting Paris Hilton to not even get slapped on the wrist for driving on a suspended license.

Like I said, DCD was popular so he's getting all these worshippers protesting his well-deserved DoS order.

Dobbs has said it well. I love how you are gloating, and whining in the same breath...oh, no one loves ME like they love DC...

I also love how you once again ignored where I said I don't think ANY poster deserves a DoS if they are not being a serious disruption to the forum.

But then again, that might make your little worm-munching garden song less listenable. So continue on.

Edit: actually, don't bother. It's become a thread-jack.

Like I said the first time on this thread, it's not jealousy. It's incredulity and incomprehension at how people would wish special treatment on something that others in their place would have little or no choice but to abide by. That's because you lack reading comprehension.

We haven't had to advocate for anyone else in this situation...because no one that I can recall in my entire time here has been in this situation. Those who get a DoS order usually make such a terrible nuisance of themselves, that there is no other choice.

Hardly the case here.

And on that note...let's end the thread hijack. This thread is meant to be a farewell. We all know he isn't going to be let back, and your posts, Gauchier, served their purpose many pages back. Unless you have something on topic to add, then...see you later.

Like I said the first time on this thread, it's not jealousy. It's incredulity and incomprehension at how people would wish special treatment on something that others in their place would have little or no choice but to abide by.

Just like people wanting Paris Hilton to not even get slapped on the wrist for driving on a suspended license.

Well, I've never wished special treatment for DcD or anyone else, in this thread or in others. I was on that thread that got him DoSed, and I don't have a problem with his fate. It's unfortunate that he pissed it all away, but hey, shit happens. I don't have a problem with a goodbye thread, either. He was a popular poster who, in his own way, enriched General - and for that he certainly could be remembered or commemorated by those who enjoyed his contributions. There's nothing wrong with it as far as I can see.

I think you're letting your own hangups about how people perceive you get in the way of things, your protestations to the contrary duly noted.

Dobbs has said it well. I love how you are gloating, and whining in the same breath...oh, no one loves ME like they love DC...

I also love how you once again ignored where I said I don't think ANY poster deserves a DoS if they are not being a serious disruption to the forum.

But then again, that might make your little worm-munching garden song less listenable. So continue on.

And you're being disingenous dismissing it as jealously. In fact that's the exact same excuse the Defenders of Paris used when protesting the jail sentence.

If you noticed, this forum is not a democracy. It's a junta. And Drunk Commies racked up a criminal record of sorts with his "I hope you get AIDS up your ass" postings. They don't care how long you've behaved if you do the exact same thing they told you not to do before. Doesn't matter if years passed, there's a reason they told you not to do it in the first place.

Criminal records only get sealed or expunged when you reach adulthood. And he was clearly an adult when he broke the rules constantly.

I could care less if people like me or not on this forum. I operate on the premise that people here either can't stand me or wouldn't notice me standing in front of them.

What I'm posting here is incredulity to the call for leniency and special treatment to someone who broke the rules on an authoritarian forum that explicitly gave prior warning of the consequences of repeating an undesired action. There is no time off for good behavior on NationStates unless the Mods say so.

And you're being disingenous dismissing it as jealously. In fact that's the exact same excuse the Defenders of Paris used when protesting the jail sentence.

If you noticed, this forum is not a democracy. It's a junta. And Drunk Commies racked up a criminal record of sorts with his "I hope you get AIDS up your ass" postings. They don't care how long you've behaved if you do the exact same thing they told you not to do before. Doesn't matter if years passed, there's a reason they told you not to do it in the first place.

Criminal records only get sealed or expunged when you reach adulthood. And he was clearly an adult when he broke the rules constantly.

I could care less if people like me or not on this forum. I operate on the premise that people here either can't stand me or wouldn't notice me standing in front of them.

What I'm posting here is incredulity to the call for leniency and special treatment to someone who broke the rules on an authoritarian forum that explicitly gave prior warning of the consequences of repeating an undesired action. There is no time off for good behavior on NationStates unless the Mods say so.

Right. Got it.

Done yet?

Right. Got it.

Done yet?

Yes, I'm done. Thank you.

I operate on the premise that people here either can't stand me or wouldn't notice me standing in front of them.

...

Well, watching all this spleen being vented, makes me want to drink. Are you going to the NS Pub tonight, Dobbs? I've got some Cuban rum I've been neglecting.

Well, watching all this spleen being vented, makes me want to drink. Are you going to the NS Pub tonight, Dobbs? I've got some Cuban rum I've been neglecting.

I've got maybe a few minutes for a night cap, but sure.

Dang it, both words - 'NS' and 'Pub' are less than four characters long, and Jolt won't let you search less than three minutes apart at a time... ah well, it's a nice thought in any event.

And you're being disingenous dismissing it as jealously. In fact that's the exact same excuse the Defenders of Paris used when protesting the jail sentence.

If you noticed, this forum is not a democracy. It's a junta. And Drunk Commies racked up a criminal record of sorts with his "I hope you get AIDS up your ass" postings. They don't care how long you've behaved if you do the exact same thing they told you not to do before. Doesn't matter if years passed, there's a reason they told you not to do it in the first place.

Criminal records only get sealed or expunged when you reach adulthood. And he was clearly an adult when he broke the rules constantly.

I could care less if people like me or not on this forum. I operate on the premise that people here either can't stand me or wouldn't notice me standing in front of them.

What I'm posting here is incredulity to the call for leniency and special treatment to someone who broke the rules on an authoritarian forum that explicitly gave prior warning of the consequences of repeating an undesired action. There is no time off for good behavior on NationStates unless the Mods say so.

No. Be quiet. You look silly.

The difference between Paris and DCD is that Paris wasn't being sentenced to fucking death, which is the real-life equivalent of a DoS.

I think DCD is a person who can be an asshole, but also brought a lot to the debate here.

And I don't just mean stories about men being stabbed during masturbation marathons either.

What would be best is if he could whip together a puppet nation and try to come back with a different enough online persona that the mods wouldn't pick up on it. Obviously, this would demand that he abstain from indulging in the behaviour that got him banned in the first place, but if he can do that, then I see no reason why he could not join in our sometimes enlightened debate.

No. Be quiet. You look silly.

The difference between Paris and DCD is that Paris wasn't being sentenced to fucking death, which is the real-life equivalent of a DoS.

Not to mention the fact that no one is arguing that DCD, and DCD alone, should be spared. The argument is that the DoS order is too harsh a punishment when the person in question is not a constant disruption in the forums. DCD was not a constant disruption, as evidenced by the fact that he hadn't had an offense like this in two years.

Not to mention the fact that no one is arguing that DCD, and DCD alone, should be spared. Yeah, I am SICK of that strawman. Seriously...those of you with sour grapes? Stay out of the thread. You've said your piece to the exclusion of all arguments to the contrary...now be off with you. I'm sure you need to bootlick someone else in a position of authority.



The argument is that the DoS order is too harsh a punishment when the person in question is not a constant disruption in the forum. DCD was not a constant disruption, as evidenced by the fact that he hadn't had an offense like this in two years.
Don't waste your breath. I've been repeating this ad naseum, but the folks prattling on about it skip both your points completely and just cry 'PARIS!' and 'NO ONE LOVES ME!'

I think DC's punishment fit the crime, but I miss him. He was a good guy most of the time.

Seriously...those of you with sour grapes? Stay out of the thread. You've said your piece to the exclusion of all arguments to the contrary...now be off with you.

This is a perfect example of how Conversational Scottish (as taught by the world-renowned Angus Crock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHCwfsVsIv0) can help. Away wi' ye, ye wee beasties!

I've been repeating this ad naseum, but the folks prattling on about it skip both your points completely and just cry 'PARIS!' and 'NO ONE LOVES ME!'

The "Paris" bit is beneath contempt. This notion of "forum celebrity" that these particular ogres rail so hard against is equally laughable. And if no-one loves them, I can't see how whingeing on about how other people are perceived is going to help out.

I know for the most part I shy away from all the silly "Best *whatever* of NS" threads that periodically spring up, and of course the never-ending Election threads - you sourpusses want some whoredom to rant about, go pound some self-righteous keys of fury in one of those.

Unless of couse you're happier taking potshots at people who are no longer here, in which case I'd just ask that you not bother.

DCD already got leniency. Hell, he got it twice. Usually people get DoS after about three accounts being deleted, from what I've seen. This was his sixth.

In fact...name me one long-time poster that IS DoS.

Beeker. TRA.

Beeker. TRA.
I've advocated TRA plenty of times, for what it was worth. S/he explained it was a deliberate death-by-mod thing.
Beeker? Can't help but think of Muppets.


...
DCD has a good memoriam here.

Beeker. TRA.

Who's TRA?

Darn. Now I have to put effort into finding weird news.

It's silly to reoffend, but DCD never struck me as stupid enough to reoffend in precisely the same manner.

Who's TRA?

The Red Arrow

MKUltra

Skapedroe

He/she had a few nations, I'm sure I've missed a couple there.


I will truly miss DCD. I didn't agree with all his opinions, but I did appreciate his input to this forum.

DCD, tonight I get drunk in your memory! Skull!

http://www.riverbills.com/pic_of_the_day/082305_mens_beer_drinking_contest.JPG

Beeker. TRA.

Beeker is back. The Red Arrow/etc was here specifically to troll. DC was not. He trolled as Jesussaves, and had that account deleted. His non-Jesussaves posts were not trolling.

Beeker is back. The Red Arrow/etc was here specifically to troll. DC was not. He trolled as Jesussaves, and had that account deleted. His non-Jesussaves posts were not trolling.

Didn't you hear? DCD is a foolish troll who thought he was exempt from the rules! It's good we're rid of him! He never contributed anything to the forums!

:rolleyes:

Beeker is back. The Red Arrow/etc was here specifically to troll. DC was not. He trolled as Jesussaves, and had that account deleted. His non-Jesussaves posts were not trolling.

You sure about TRA? Never seen anything to suggest that he wasn't genuine.

Didn't you hear? DCD is a foolish troll who thought he was exempt from the rules! It's good we're rid of him! He never contributed anything to the forums!

:rolleyes:

Did I say that? No. I fucking didn't. So don't put words in my mouth.

Which basically boils down to a popularity contest. Occeandrive's been posting his "J00z r 0ut t0 get us" threads for a long time and I don't see you defending him the few times he got banned. OcceanDrive isn't DoS. Else I'd be defending his ass too. YESSSSS !!!!!

I was starting to get jealous of DCD :D :cool: :D :D

Did I say that? No. I fucking didn't. So don't put words in my mouth.

Who said I was referring to you? Perhaps you need to keep your ego on a tighter leash.

Who said I was referring to you? Perhaps you need to keep your ego on a tighter leash.

You were responding to someone who was responding to me. It's called "inference". Look it up.

You were responding to someone who was responding to me. It's called "inference". Look it up.

Perhaps if you ceased to be so self-centered, I wouldn't need to waste my time looking up a word I already know the meaning of.

Keep it down you too. Get back to worshiping the memory of DCD.

Keep it down you too. Get back to worshiping the memory of DCD.

Right ho!

*Worships*

You sure about TRA? Never seen anything to suggest that he wasn't genuine.

I wasn't around during most of her incarnation as TRA. I'm not entirely sure why she was banned, frankly. I enjoyed her threads in her later incarnations...but I would never claim those posts were not trolling. Genuine or not, the ideas put out were done so in a specifically trolling manner. That this trolling was consistent is admirable...but not a saving grace.

Did I say that? No. I fucking didn't. So don't put words in my mouth.

I think Zarakon was paraphrasing the attitude of various posters. Many have been suggesting that DCD was nothing more than a troll, despite the fact that he had ONE trolling nation (deleted), and the bulk of his regular posts were not trolling in any way. His comment really wouldn't make sense in the context of your post.

Now's when we can expect an embarrasingly indignant post from someone who doesn't feel loved, eh Neese?

Pretty much. Just can't stay away...

Oh, and it's 40 days of mourning to undergo before I can stop wearing black lace lingerie in DC's name. :D

I think Zarakon was paraphrasing the attitude of various posters. Many have been suggesting that DCD was nothing more than a troll, despite the fact that he had ONE trolling nation (deleted), and the bulk of his regular posts were not trolling in any way. His comment really wouldn't make sense in the context of your post.

Now's when we can expect an embarrasingly indignant post from someone who doesn't feel loved, eh Neese?

Pretty much. Just can't stay away...

Oh, and it's 40 days of mourning to undergo before I can stop wearing black lace lingerie in DC's name. :D

*arches brow*

Really, now... tell us more of this - lingerie you speak of...

*puffs*

Well, since you asked...

Unless we're saying DCD was, because of his other posts, completely and 100% excused, then we admit there was something the mods had to deal with. Clearly, no other method was capable of doing so.

Oh, and it's 40 days of mourning to undergo before I can stop wearing black lace lingerie in DC's name. :D

What else would you wear? :confused:

Pretty much. Just can't stay away...

Oh, and it's 40 days of mourning to undergo before I can stop wearing black lace lingerie in DC's name. :D

huh

Well, since you asked...

Unless we're saying DCD was, because of his other posts, completely and 100% excused, then we admit there was something the mods had to deal with. Clearly, no other method was capable of doing so. I don't agree with your conclusion, that no other method was capable. I think a month long ban or longer would have worked. DCD is not the prick most of his detractors seem to think he is. I have to assume they didn't actually interact with him very much if they actually hold that opinion about him. In fact, many people in here slagging him most likely entirely missed his brand of sarcasm, and took it all at face value. More's the pity.



What else would you wear? :confused:

Black nipple rings?

huh

You didn't get the memo? You'd better have your demicup and thong ensemble on buddy!

You didn't get the memo? You'd better have your demicup and thong ensemble on buddy!

i never get emails, memos ,notes, messages, told theres meetings and so on

Holy Shizzle, DCD got DOS'ed? Why? What happened?

Damn, I leave for a month and the whole place goes to hell.

I don't agree with your conclusion, that no other method was capable. I think a month long ban or longer would have worked. DCD is not the prick most of his detractors seem to think he is. I have to assume they didn't actually interact with him very much if they actually hold that opinion about him. In fact, many people in here slagging him most likely entirely missed his brand of sarcasm, and took it all at face value. More's the pity.

It's not that he's a prick, he just didn't quite seem to pick up on things. What with various bans, being deleted, deleted, and deleted (not counting Jesussaves)...He even had 'Deleted' in his name this time, you'd think that would be a reminder...

Black nipple rings?

Fair enough.

It's not that he's a prick, he just didn't quite seem to pick up on things. What with various bans, being deleted, deleted, and deleted (not counting Jesussaves)...He even had 'Deleted' in his name this time, you'd think that would be a reminder... Maybe he was having a bad day. One bad day in two years...ah nevermind, I've been down this road too many times.

I loved how he would goad in the feminism threads. There, back on topic :D

Holy Shizzle, DCD got DOS'ed? Why? What happened?

Damn, I leave for a month and the whole place goes to hell.

Something about AIDS rape again, with a bit of NSFW as a corollary.

Something about AIDS rape again, with a bit of NSFW as a corollary.

Oh my.

Really is too bad, DC was one of my favorite. I'll get drunk for him tonight.

Maybe he was having a bad day.

Haven't we all? And yet so few of us get deleted three times.

You know, I'm coming up on two years...What do I get to do, eh? :D

And if we must get back on topic, that bit about the lingerie is as good a place as any to go back to.

This forum is boring enough without us losing some of the characters that make it so enjoyable.

I mean, I wouldn't want to lose Deep Remote Online Legs Kimchi either.

This forum is boring enough without us losing some of the characters that make it so enjoyable.

I mean, I wouldn't want to lose Deep Remote Online Legs Kimchi either.

Legs? I must have missed that one.

Pretty much. Just can't stay away...

Oh, and it's 40 days of mourning to undergo before I can stop wearing black lace lingerie in DC's name. :D

Umm...

Oh, right, you're female.

Now's when we can expect an embarrasingly indignant post from someone who doesn't feel loved, eh Neese?

Wait...who?

Oh, are you referring to "DCD Is t3h ebil!" posters in general?

Legs? I must have missed that one.

I'm not sure if he was here before Whispering Legs, but he's been Sierra BHTP since then, and Eve Online, and Remote Observer, and perhaps some I've forgotten.

Edit: Ah yes, also Deep Kimchi

I'm not sure if he was here before Whispering Legs, but he's been Sierra BHTP since then, and Eve Online, and Remote Observer, and perhaps some I've forgotten.

Wait...What the fuck? He has more accounts then DCD did. And I'm assuming all of the ones preceding RO were deleted or banned?

Wait...What the fuck? He has more accounts then DCD did. And I'm assuming all of the ones preceding RO were deleted or banned?

I believe so, yes.

Now folks...tell me again how fucking evil DCD was.:rolleyes:

I'm not sure if he was here before Whispering Legs, but he's been Sierra BHTP since then, and Eve Online, and Remote Observer, and perhaps some I've forgotten.

Deep Kimchi.

I believe so, yes.

Now folks...tell me again how fucking evil DCD was.:rolleyes:

DCD got DEATed but that troll is still around? What the hell?

Jesus, and he's not even a fun troll. At least MTAE could argue.

Deep Kimchi.

Ugh, how could I forget that? Sheesh...thanks!

DCD got DEATed but that troll is still around? What the hell?

Jesus, and he's not even a fun troll. At least MTAE could argue.

Na, Deep Observer is fairly good at what he does still. And I wouldn't want him gone any more than I wanted DCD gone.

And DCD wasn't even a troll.