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Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:03
We've left the aborigines alone to do their thing for 20 years, and they still riot and blame us for their wife-beatings and low life expectancy? What do you want for us? To go in there and FORCE them to have better lives?

History is over. Aborigines have the same rights as everyone else, and right now, they're using those rights to sniff gasoline.

Bwhahaha I say Bwhahahah again.

How many aboriginal doctors have your uni's put out in the last 10 years?
How many cases of leprosy in the white community vs in the aboriginal community?

You don't have equality yet you are are just plain wrong.
Rambhutan
12-06-2007, 17:04
Is there some kind of lithium shortage at the moment?
Heikoku
12-06-2007, 17:04
I dunno, maybe they do. We're just normal people who see parts of our country slowing turning into South Africa.

Which is why you like Apartheid so much. I see.
Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:06
I dunno, maybe they do. We're just normal people who see parts of our country slowing turning into South Africa.

And instead of thinking about where the blame truly lies, place it instead at the feet of a diffrant colured minority! Amazing!
Markeliopia
12-06-2007, 17:06
here is a good website for potato factory http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdisplay.php/general-7.html
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:07
Bwhahaha I say Bwhahahah again.

How many aboriginal doctors have your uni's put out in the last 10 years?
How many cases of leprosy in the white community vs in the aboriginal community?

You don't have equality yet you are are just plain wrong.

Again, what do you expect us to do? We can't force them to move out of their tribes and into the greater community. We can't force them to go to uni or practice proper hygiene.
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:08
And instead of thinking about where the blame truly lies, place it instead at the feet of a diffrant colured minority! Amazing!

Well, since all the trouble seems to be there, yeah. There no trouble here. Down the train tracks, though...
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:09
here is a good website for potato factory http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdisplay.php/general-7.html

This is coming from the guy who's sig says "I'm a worse version of Hitler".
Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:09
Again, what do you expect us to do? We can't force them to move out of their tribes and into the greater community. We can't force them to go to uni or practice proper hygiene.

I don't expect you to do anything. I expect you to carry on spouting your nonsense. I hope you don't have kids though and stuff their heads full of it.
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:10
I don't expect you to do anything. I expect you to carry on spouting your nonsense. I hope you don't have kids though and stuff their heads full of it.

Spouting what nonsense?

Ok, go ahead. Suggest how we can improve the quality of life of Australian aborigines without infringing on their rights to live how they want.
Neo Undelia
12-06-2007, 17:10
We've left the aborigines alone to do their thing for 20 years, and they still riot and blame us for their wife-beatings and low life expectancy? What do you want for us? To go in there and FORCE them to have better lives?

You could, you know, help them...
Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:12
Spouting what nonsense?



Heh and you don't even know? Priceless!
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:12
You could, you know, help them...

What, like the government funded housing and all the welfare they're getting right now?
Ollieland
12-06-2007, 17:12
TPF how about responding to ypur original OP? You asserted that you were surprised a British judge convicted a muslim because they usually don't. You have been asked to prove this point and spectcularly failed to do so. Have you come up with any proof yet?

So no proof then? An admittance that you were wrong?
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:13
Heh and you don't even know? Priceless!

Ok, go ahead. Suggest how we can improve the quality of life of Australian aborigines without infringing on their rights to live how they want.

I'm waiting.
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:14
So no proof then? An admittance that you were wrong?

I'll admit I'm wrong when honour killings stop.
Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:16
I'm waiting.

Ummm ask them that!
Ollieland
12-06-2007, 17:17
I'm waiting.

So am I. Have been since page 3.
Gift-of-god
12-06-2007, 17:18
Spouting what nonsense?

Ok, go ahead. Suggest how we can improve the quality of life of Australian aborigines without infringing on their rights to live how they want.

I don't think Aborigines really are allowed to live how they want.

Is it expensive to go to university in Australia? How does this correlate with poverty in Aboriginal communitiies? Are universities located in areas where there are sizable enough Aboriginal populations to keep Aboriginal youth from feeling alienated in their own country? Do high schools that service Aboriginal communities receive the same resources as those in white communities? How many Aboriginal professors work in Australian universities?

If you can't provide supportable answers to these questions, I would say that you probabaly do not understand the problems affecting Aboriginal communities in contemporary Australia, and university enrollment in particular.
Peepelonia
12-06-2007, 17:21
Heh and you don't even know? Priceless!

Bwahahah I love your logic. Again pricless.

You may by now get the feeling that I'm not interested in debate with you, and that I am merley 'taking the piss'. If you do, then congrates, at least that's one thing you have right!


Bwhahahaha.
Ollieland
12-06-2007, 17:22
I'll admit I'm wrong when honour killings stop.

That wasn't your point. You asserted that judges go easy on muslim killers. If you were not wrong to assert that then prove it.
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:22
I don't think Aborigines really are allowed to live how they want.

Is it expensive to go to university in Australia? How does this correlate with poverty in Aboriginal communitiies? Are universities located in areas where there are sizable enough Aboriginal populations to keep Aboriginal youth from feeling alienated in their own country? Do high schools that service Aboriginal communities receive the same resources as those in white communities? How many Aboriginal professors work in Australian universities?

First off, there's TAFE, which is shit cheap, and you can use that as a stepping stone to Uni. I don't know about high schools, but they're probably as good as non-aboriginal high schools, at least, until they get trashed.

If you can't provide supportable answers to these questions, I would say that you probabaly do not understand the problems affecting Aboriginal communities in contemporary Australia, and university enrollment in particular.

I understand plenty. I read the paper. I know how it works. They CHOOSE not to live by Western standard, and thus their lifestyle aren't up to Western standards.
The Potato Factory
12-06-2007, 17:24
That wasn't your point. You asserted that judges go easy on muslim killers. If you were not wrong to assert that then prove it.

Well, it's not hard to prove that. Ten years for murder? Come on.
Gift-of-god
12-06-2007, 17:25
First off, there's TAFE, which is shit cheap, and you can use that as a stepping stone to Uni. I don't know about high schools, but they're probably as good as non-aboriginal high schools, at least, until they get trashed.



I understand plenty. I read the paper. I know how it works. They CHOOSE not to live by Western standard, and thus their lifestyle aren't up to Western standards.

In other words, you can not provide intelligent and supported answers to these questions.
Ollieland
12-06-2007, 17:26
Well, it's not hard to prove that. Ten years for murder? Come on.

You have proved nothing. Is that a lighter sentance than given to a non muslim? Well is it?
Neo Undelia
12-06-2007, 17:28
What, like the government funded housing and all the welfare they're getting right now?

I'm sure their schools could use some work. Prenatal care tends to be an issue with these groups. There's plenty more that could be done.
Nodinia
12-06-2007, 17:38
First off, there's TAFE, which is shit cheap, and you can use that as a stepping stone to Uni. I don't know about high schools, but they're probably as good as non-aboriginal high schools, at least, until they get trashed.



I understand plenty. I read the paper. I know how it works. They CHOOSE not to live by Western standard, and thus their lifestyle aren't up to Western standards.

So page 19 and its still trying to do what I pointed out back on page 3/4.

You were wrong then, and fuck all has happened in between to make you any less so.
Nodinia
12-06-2007, 17:40
I understand plenty. I read the paper. I know how it works.

My son, if you read the paper (and not "Der Sturmer" or its beer-sodden redneck equivalent) you wouldnt be making the kind of stupid statements you've been making.
Markeliopia
12-06-2007, 18:28
I have to ask, do you think Christianity is any more/less backward than Islam?
Cabra West
12-06-2007, 18:35
Erm...India? I'd have thought Sanskrit was a fairly old language. I'm not a linguist, though, so I don't know for sure.

Well, it's old, but as writing goes it's rather young : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit#Writing_system
I'm no expert on the subject (far from it), but just by looking at the structure of using letters rather than glyphs, I guess it's been at some stage copied from the writing styles that developed in the Middle East.
Deus Malum
12-06-2007, 19:08
Well, it's old, but as writing goes it's rather young : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit#Writing_system
I'm no expert on the subject (far from it), but just by looking at the structure of using letters rather than glyphs, I guess it's been at some stage copied from the writing styles that developed in the Middle East.

Hmm, yes, I see what you mean.
Newer Burmecia
12-06-2007, 19:13
Well, it's not hard to prove that. Ten years for murder? Come on.
Wow. Can you tell me where you got this new definition of proof from?
Regressica
12-06-2007, 19:16
White, Western-cultured foreign immigrants.

Go back to where you came from.
Heikoku
12-06-2007, 21:48
Well, it's not hard to prove that. Ten years for murder? Come on.

The maximum penalty for ANYONE in Germany is 10 years. You have to prove the judges go especially easy on Muslims, not "as easy" as they go on others.

And going "come on" is about as meaningful as Paris Hilton going "it's not fair".
Markeliopia
12-06-2007, 22:12
Go back to where you came from.

like I said before

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ :p

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPqRfoOUVP8
Sominium Effectus
12-06-2007, 22:34
But he is a Muslim, therefore political correctness would dictate that cultural sensitivity would result in a not-guilty verdict. But he was gloriously found guilty, a righteous loss for political correctness (that bitchy dog!), and The Potato Factory can rejoice!

</sarcasm>

Well also bear in mind that he's a Kurd, the Bushbots of the Muslim community...indeed, this conviction is nothing less than a glorious victory against the American imperialists!












Disclaimer: Please don't take this post seriously. If you do I will shoot you.
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 02:36
Well, it's old, but as writing goes it's rather young : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit#Writing_system
I'm no expert on the subject (far from it), but just by looking at the structure of using letters rather than glyphs, I guess it's been at some stage copied from the writing styles that developed in the Middle East.

The middle east was the cradle for most initial technologies (writing, agriculture, etc).

*Puts on Turkish hat* There are no Kurds *Takes off Turkish hat*
Katganistan
13-06-2007, 03:24
Here's what I don't get: If honor killings are such a cultural and defendable norm, why stuff her body in a suitcase and bury her in a garden?

I'll tell you why: Because they're cultist freaks. They are everybit as freakish as Warren Jeffs' mormons or Fred Phelps' christians or dorks who killed themselves so they could catch a ride on that mothership hiding behind a comet.

Their actions have nothing to do with their purported faiths and everything to do with twisted agendas.

Why are there never pie-flinging cults? :(

LG, I'm trying to wrap my mind around your post being the most sensible in this thread yet...

I think my worldview just shifted.

:fluffle:
Heikoku
13-06-2007, 03:31
LG, I'm trying to wrap my mind around your post being the most sensible in this thread yet...

I think my worldview just shifted.

:fluffle:

I'll start a pie-fighting cult if Kat is in it and I get fluffles. ;)
Katganistan
13-06-2007, 03:32
White, Western-cultured foreign immigrants.

Who think the Aborigines just ought to have the good sense to get the hell out of the way?

Oh, they're still running around in ridiculous outfits, but now they've hollowed out tree trunks and make them sound like elephants and call it culture.

http://www.metalldatenbank.de/allgaeu_bilder/gallery/verkehrsamt_bolsterlang/Bilder/Alphorn.jpg

Hey! Didgeridoos!

http://www.roebourne.wa.edu.au/2002/images2002/Didgeridoo.jpg
Barringtonia
13-06-2007, 03:38
I really rarely comment on Mods but I truly feel for you for having to go through this thread, no one should be subject to that - there, I said it :(
Zarakon
13-06-2007, 03:40
Hey! Didgeridoos!


Didgeridoos: Unlike many instruments, playing this fluently will NOT get you laid.
Katganistan
13-06-2007, 03:45
Mate, I'm a product of the Australian lifestyle. It may come as a slight shock to you, but we're not all cork-on-a-string hats wearing, Foster's beer drinking, "this is a knife" playing outbackmen. We're no-nonsense. We don't put up with people telling us what to do and when to do it. You'd be surprised to find that a lot of Australians would agree with me.

Quite surprised. My colleagues aren't xenophobic morons.
Zarakon
13-06-2007, 03:45
Quite surprised. My colleagues aren't xenophobic morons.

Allow me to be the first to say:

Pwned.
Katganistan
13-06-2007, 04:04
It is if it's with a FUCKING NINE YEAR OLD.

http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/teenmarriage.htm

http://marriage.ygoy.com/history/middle-age.php

And that's in the MIDDLE AGES... not 2000 years ago.

Didgeridoos: Unlike many instruments, playing this fluently will NOT get you laid.

Neither will lederhosen and a hat mit a red feather in it, while playing a didgeridoo-like alpine horn.
Deus Malum
13-06-2007, 04:07
LG, I'm trying to wrap my mind around your post being the most sensible in this thread yet...

I think my worldview just shifted.

:fluffle:

LG: He's in your Weltanshaung, screwing with your worldview.
Regressica
13-06-2007, 05:09
like I said before

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ :p

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPqRfoOUVP8

lol, I once registered for the Stormfront forum. I got banned after a few hours. :p

EDIT
Just found this hilarious post on it:

did Germany use only half effort in WW2?

Sometimes I think that Germany wasn't really that serious about winning the war. Some were I am sure. But on the whole it seems that Germany could have won many battles and probably the won the war if they had made full effort to do so. I know that this is a general statement and it would be complicated to come to any definite conclusions about the question. Maybe I am wrong about this and Germany did their best and most.
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 05:48
Didgeridoos: Unlike many instruments, playing this fluently will NOT get you laid.

Awwww *drops wood tube*.

There is always the triangle thingy I guess... *whacks triangle doohicky*

I think LG caught the sanity disease :( Sanity-Uncyclopedia (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Sanity)

did Germany use only half effort in WW2?

My grandfather cruised through WW2 so I guess we could blame his lack of effort?

Wait a minute.... Thats a good thing! Hooray for slacking off in WW2!
Gauthier
13-06-2007, 06:32
Suppose it would be too much to ask the mods to change the title of this thread to "Potato Mashing: The ranting and pwning of a Romper Stompers Reject"?
Greater Trostia
13-06-2007, 06:51
Just about every other single white person I've spoken to, and most East Asians, agree that Muslims are a fucking problem.

That's what happens when you surround yourself with racist bigoted trash.

I don't have a religion.

Oh? What about hate?

That's her choice. I'd never speak to her again if she did marry a Muslim. That's MY choice.

And it's a stupid choice. But since you're not likely to procreate in the first place it's all academic.

What, the aborigines? I'd hardly call that a culture. Dancing around in their underwear throwing bent sticks at animals that could kick their brains out.

Ah, more bigoted nonsense. It's hard to say which part of this statement is dumber; your summary of aboriginal culture, or your apparent ignorance of what culture is.

You make it seem like I care that people think I'm a bigot. I don't. I hate anyone who isn't like me.

You've got some serious psychological problems. Or you need to grow the fuck up. Possibly both.

White, Western-cultured foreign immigrants.

Mmm. I love the smell of racism. Smells like rotting fish.

How many ACTUALLY INTEGRATE? They don't come and start a new life, they just bring their fucking baggage with them, and then demand that we adapt to tolerate them.

You know, when I travel somewhere, I tend to bring my baggage. You would too, if you ever travelled anywhere.

Let's face it TPF, you're such a hateful little troll that you're never going to be happy until all foreigners, immigrants and Muslims are put into concentration camps and executed. And even then you'll still need someone to hate. So it'll be Jews, gays, non-whites, women, people whose political viewpoints aren't as far right as Adolf fucking Hitler. Even then it won't be enough. Because there is something wrong with your head that means you feel compelled to hate other people.

I'm pretty sure it's because you really hate yourself.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 07:55
Let's face it TPF, you're such a hateful little troll that you're never going to be happy until all foreigners, immigrants and Muslims are put into concentration camps and executed. And even then you'll still need someone to hate. So it'll be Jews, gays, non-whites, women, people whose political viewpoints aren't as far right as Adolf fucking Hitler. Even then it won't be enough. Because there is something wrong with your head that means you feel compelled to hate other people.

I'm pretty sure it's because you really hate yourself.

No, the only person I truly want to see executed is you.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
13-06-2007, 08:01
No, the only person I truly want to see executed is you.

This can't be helping anyone. :confused:
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 08:02
You know, when I travel somewhere, I tend to bring my baggage. You would too, if you ever travelled anywhere.

I would bring my baggage as well but there is only so much I cancarry before the airport makes me pay extra :( .
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
13-06-2007, 08:06
I would bring my baggage as well but there is only so much I cancarry before the airport makes me pay extra :( .

Maybe you have a bulk shipper somewhere in your neighborhood. I never thought I did until someone clued me in one day. 50 clams to send any package up to 100 lbs anywhere in Europe, back when I sent some stuff off. Not a bad deal! :)
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 08:21
This can't be helping anyone. :confused:

If I saw anybody else (barring people like Bin Laden or Hitler or something like that) hanging off a cliff, I'd help them up. But if it was Greater Trostia... I'm still deciding whether to just leave him or to stomp on his fingers.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 08:22
http://marriage.about.com/cs/teenmarriage/a/teenmarriage.htm

http://marriage.ygoy.com/history/middle-age.php

And that's in the MIDDLE AGES... not 2000 years ago.

Hey, at least those people waited for the girl to have her fucking PERIOD.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
13-06-2007, 08:25
If I saw anybody else (barring people like Bin Laden or Hitler or something like that) hanging off a cliff, I'd help them up. But if it was Greater Trostia... I'm still deciding whether to just leave him or to stomp on his fingers.

I understood the point you were making loud and clear - it's not that. I just can't imagine it helping a great deal.
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 08:28
Maybe you have a bulk shipper somewhere in your neighborhood. I never thought I did until someone clued me in one day. 50 clams to send any package up to 100 lbs anywhere in Europe, back when I sent some stuff off. Not a bad deal! :)

Hmmm, I could get a LOT of baggage to take with me to another country shipped that way but I am rather far away (higher expense). That and you are using the imperial counting system.

That (Imperial) instantly makes me want to start counting lengths in feet. Stop corrupting me with your 'foreign' counting system. Keep your counting system away from my nice, pure one :p . If I catch you trying to steal my wimmen and jerbz so help me...

Anyway, Clams? I can't use archaic currency you know... I know it was bright coloured sea shells than just clam shells.
Neo Undelia
13-06-2007, 08:29
If I saw anybody else (barring people like Bin Laden or Hitler or something like that) hanging off a cliff, I'd help them up. But if it was Greater Trostia... I'm still deciding whether to just leave him or to stomp on his fingers.

What the hell is wrong with you? I mean really. What the fuck?
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 08:33
What the hell is wrong with you? I mean really. What the fuck?

Nothing at all. See, I don't judge people how they are. I judge them on how they'd be as the dictator of a very powerful country. And Greater Trostia would stand against everything I believe in.
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 08:33
Just ignore him and let him salivate over a picture of Pauline 'I don't like it' Hanson.

Let us talk about the truly important issues, such as Underpants and Pandas!
Neo Undelia
13-06-2007, 08:37
Nothing at all. See, I don't judge people how they are. I judge them on how they'd be as the dictator of a very powerful country. And Greater Trostia would stand against everything I believe in.

First of all, that's a ridiculous way to judge people.

Second, I think I speak for the vast majority of posters here when I say that everything you believe in is shit.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 08:40
First of all, that's a ridiculous way to judge people.

Second, I think I speak for the vast majority of posters here when I say that everything you believe in is shit.

I believe in not having to be worried every time I step on a train because some crazy might blow it up. I believe in being able to wear whatever I want without people beating me up for being immodest.
Neo Undelia
13-06-2007, 08:47
I believe in not having to be worried every time I step on a train because some crazy might blow it up.
Unless you fail to understand concepts such as probability, you can do that now.
I believe in being able to wear whatever I want without people beating me up for being immodest.
While there's certainly nothing wrong with that sentiment in and of itself, the fact that you use it to justify hatred of Muslims taints it.
Glevissig
13-06-2007, 08:51
I don't believe it either!!!

How do you strangle someone with a shoelace?

EDIT: ah, it was a bootlace

Also...



Bit of overkill no?

overkill and crude
Soleichunn
13-06-2007, 08:52
Unless you fail to understand concepts such as probability, you can do that now.

P(x)?
Saxnot
13-06-2007, 09:16
I believe in not having to be worried every time I step on a train because some crazy might blow it up. I believe in being able to wear whatever I want without people beating me up for being immodest.

Then stop worrying. Get over it. :rolleyes:
Regressica
13-06-2007, 09:42
No, the only person I truly want to see executed is you.

This guy can't be serious. And I'd just like to point out how ridiculous your 'open mind' analogy is. As if having an open mind naturally means believing any bullshit you hear. See, I have an open mind, but listening to your racist and xenophobic bullshit doesn't "invade" my "fortress", precisely because it is bullshit. Then again, you seem like a person with a mind that isn't capable of logical or rational thought, so maybe you do need to keep a closed mind otherwise you'd believe anything you hear.

Nothing at all. See, I don't judge people how they are. I judge them on how they'd be as the dictator of a very powerful country.

And their race and religion too... Those too.

Unless you fail to understand concepts such as probability, you can do that now.

:p pwned
The Rafe System
13-06-2007, 10:45
I didn't say disown. Just never speak to them again. Any son or daughter of mine who would return to the Dark Ages, they are dead to me.

ermmm...TPF, you say this, as part of your defence against "honor killing"?

:confused:

* you state that IF your daughter married/dated a Muslim you would never talk to them.
* not only not talk to them, but that they are better off gone. or better to have not been born in the first place. (as i understand it from the above quote)
* you are against the philosophy and practice of "honor killing".
* you said that Islam is in the dark ages.

Rafe
The Rafe System
13-06-2007, 10:55
When Cortez and his sailors stayed in Montezuma's palace, all you could hear was toilets flushing for the whole of the first day.

This was because the Spaniards had never seen indoor plumbing before and were completely fascinated by it.

Writing was invented by three civilisations throughout history: the Chinese, the Mesopotamians, and the Mesoamericans. Europeans learnt it from the people we now call Middle eastern.

Erm,

middle east is a region, not a nationality.
it would be like saying i am a missourian, because i was born in the state of missouri (u.s.a.)

hell, even american is rather wrong, its a land mass, and conotates a form of government.

or am i wrong? :confused:

Rafe
The Rafe System
13-06-2007, 11:14
He managed to take control of a nation from a somewhat poor background, build it into a power and take on the whole world. Generally an idiot, I suppose, but he must have had his moments.

Ah well, never mind.



To the rescue! (http://www.megat.co.uk/wrong/wrong.php?r=bcdeijkrtuyz14&n=Potato+Factory&c=%23FF0000&t=race%2Fimmigration)

Hamilay,
that link, is beautiful! thank you!

-Rafe
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 11:20
ermmm...TPF, you say this, as part of your defence against "honor killing"?

:confused:

* you state that IF your daughter married/dated a Muslim you would never talk to them.
* not only not talk to them, but that they are better off gone. or better to have not been born in the first place. (as i understand it from the above quote)
* you are against the philosophy and practice of "honor killing".
* you said that Islam is in the dark ages.

You don't see the difference between not talking to someone and murder?
Cabra West
13-06-2007, 11:31
Erm,

middle east is a region, not a nationality.
it would be like saying i am a missourian, because i was born in the state of missouri (u.s.a.)

hell, even american is rather wrong, its a land mass, and conotates a form of government.

or am i wrong? :confused:

Rafe

And a civilisation is not a nationality.
Cabra West
13-06-2007, 11:33
You don't see the difference between not talking to someone and murder?

One is emotional cruelty, the other is physical violence.
And both are inflicting harm on others for immature reasons.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 11:40
One is emotional cruelty, the other is physical violence.
And both are inflicting harm on others for immature reasons.

If emotional cruelty is a crime, I won't do it. But I don't believe it is.

Besides, if they're so dumb as to join a cult, they don't deserve my attention or affection.
The Rafe System
13-06-2007, 11:41
You don't see the difference between not talking to someone and murder?

TPF
Yes, i do see a difference between not talking to someone, and murder.
I sit stunned at your statements;
first for not talking to your own kids just because they date someone you dont like.
...if the person lives up to your kids standards, let it happen.
...give advice on your past times, so they do not repeat your pain.

it seems wrong to me to think that someone cannot love or be loved because they are not good enough for you.

then it escalates, it gets worse. they are dead to you?!?!

may you never have kids, if you do may they never be gay, left-handed, or Pagan.

and i wish to the Gods, you had been so that you might change your mind, when the hate includes you as its toy.

i would know, im all three of those minorities.

-Rafe
PS im done here, its 03:44 local time. Not going to see your replies TPF, i desire sleep.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 12:02
may you never have kids, if you do may they never be gay, left-handed, or Pagan.

I don't care about any of those. As long as it's not a particularly stupid Pagan religion.
The blessed Chris
13-06-2007, 12:04
Life will be, at most about forty or so years. No doubt it will be reduced to something obscene like 20 years on appeal or parole.

As ever, murder should be met with a trip to the gallows.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 12:05
Life will be, at most about forty or so years. No doubt it will be reduced to something obscene like 20 years on appeal or parole.

As ever, murder should be met with a trip to the gallows.

I'm anti-death penalty. Life should be life.
Ollieland
13-06-2007, 12:07
[QUOTE=The Potato Factory;12764653]I don't care about any of those. /QUOTE]

And there sums up your attitude to life. You have a problem called "lackof empathy", an affliction that affects most bigots.

BTW, I am STILL waiting for you to prove your originial point in the OP.
The blessed Chris
13-06-2007, 12:08
I'm anti-death penalty. Life should be life.

However, short of privatising prisons, or using the imprisoned as labour upon public projects, life sentences then represent a supreme waste of money; society will not enjoy the effects accruing from any rehabilitation. Thus, execution is economically preferable.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 12:12
However, short of privatising prisons, or using the imprisoned as labour upon public projects, life sentences then represent a supreme waste of money; society will not enjoy the effects accruing from any rehabilitation. Thus, execution is economically preferable.

USE the prisoners for cheap labour. You could beat China that way.
Cabra West
13-06-2007, 12:15
And there sums up your attitude to life. You have a problem called "lackof empathy", an affliction that affects most bigots.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder ;)
Cabra West
13-06-2007, 12:16
If emotional cruelty is a crime, I won't do it. But I don't believe it is.

Besides, if they're so dumb as to join a cult, they don't deserve my attention or affection.

Why do I have the feeling that they will regard it as a priviledge to be undeserving?
The blessed Chris
13-06-2007, 12:17
USE the prisoners for cheap labour. You could beat China that way.

I do, in principle, agree. Given the size of the imprisoned community, it would also reduce the necessity for immigration. However, what work would you suggest, given that little of any responsibility or magnitude could be entrusted to prisoners.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 12:29
I do, in principle, agree. Given the size of the imprisoned community, it would also reduce the necessity for immigration. However, what work would you suggest, given that little of any responsibility or magnitude could be entrusted to prisoners.

Something on a production line, well supervised by guards.

Psycho killers like Hannibal Lecter excepted.
Barringtonia
13-06-2007, 12:36
USE the prisoners for cheap labour. You could beat China that way.

Taking jobs away from those at the bottom end of the job market who are not criminals, thus creating more criminals as their options are closed off - nice idea
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 12:41
Taking jobs away from those at the bottom end of the job market who are not criminals, thus creating more criminals as their options are closed off - nice idea

The people at the bottom end of the job market are in China.
Barringtonia
13-06-2007, 12:45
The people at the bottom end of the job market are in China.

That's only relevant if you're sending your prisoners to China.
Heikoku
13-06-2007, 13:39
I'm done talking to "I'd kill you for disagreeing with me", "I have views that I won't back up with evidence no matter how cornered I am", "I make absurd claims without backing them up", "I want to see the Final Solution applied to groups I handpick", "I pretend I don't have time to answer everyone but in reality I don't have the points to do so" TPF. I tried to teach him, but he will remain within his personal cloud of hatred, fear and ignorance. Lucky for us, the world of nightmares that he dreams of will never come to be.
Deus Malum
13-06-2007, 16:33
I'm done talking to "I'd kill you for disagreeing with me", "I have views that I won't back up with evidence no matter how cornered I am", "I make absurd claims without backing them up", "I want to see the Final Solution applied to groups I handpick", "I pretend I don't have time to answer everyone but in reality I don't have the points to do so" TPF. I tried to teach him, but he will remain within his personal cloud of hatred, fear and ignorance. Lucky for us, the world of nightmares that he dreams of will never come to be.

*pats Heikoku on the back* It's ok. It's hard to break through a solid brick wall with just your rationality and intelligence. Sometimes a sledgehammer is necessary.
Deus Malum
13-06-2007, 16:37
What about a job that no one else is supposed to know about? For example, a life with no parole prisoner with all forms of communication cut off would be a great laborer, for, say, the Shadow Government Secret Jupiter Orbital Weapons Platform.

Which doesn't exist, by the way...

Stop asking questions. Nothing to see here.

Damnit, don't give away our secrets! *smack*
Zarakon
13-06-2007, 16:38
Taking jobs away from those at the bottom end of the job market who are not criminals, thus creating more criminals as their options are closed off - nice idea

What about a job that no one else is supposed to know about? For example, a life with no parole prisoner with all forms of communication cut off would be a great laborer, for, say, the Shadow Government Secret Jupiter Orbital Weapons Platform.

Which doesn't exist, by the way...

Stop asking questions. Nothing to see here.
Markeliopia
13-06-2007, 16:43
I say we find all the radical fringe Muslims and Christians and cannibalize them, and then this country will be better :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PUQATCcQ0A

edit: I'm not talking about moderate Christians or Muslims
Peepelonia
13-06-2007, 17:24
I really rarely comment on Mods but I truly feel for you for having to go through this thread, no one should be subject to that - there, I said it :(

Never feel sorry for the Mods at least they had some decent style etc.., you got to feel for the punks though huh!?:D
Peepelonia
13-06-2007, 17:25
I'm done talking to "I'd kill you for disagreeing with me", "I have views that I won't back up with evidence no matter how cornered I am", "I make absurd claims without backing them up", "I want to see the Final Solution applied to groups I handpick", "I pretend I don't have time to answer everyone but in reality I don't have the points to do so" TPF. I tried to teach him, but he will remain within his personal cloud of hatred, fear and ignorance. Lucky for us, the world of nightmares that he dreams of will never come to be.

Ohh yeah, thats why my posts to him/her/it were mostly along the lines of Bwhahahahaha!
Greater Trostia
13-06-2007, 17:28
No, the only person I truly want to see executed is you.

So I guess you're fine with the guy in the OP only getting 10 years after all.
The Potato Factory
13-06-2007, 17:38
So I guess you're fine with the guy in the OP only getting 10 years after all.

No, he should have gotten life.
Greater Trostia
13-06-2007, 17:54
No, he should have gotten life.

How liberal of you. Let's feed and clothe murderers, give them shelter, and let's do it all on the taxpayer's expense.
Peepelonia
13-06-2007, 17:57
How liberal of you. Let's feed and clothe murderers, give them shelter, and let's do it all on the taxpayer's expense.

Bah thats a rubbsish argument. Just because you don't agree with a thing why feel that the old 'tax payers expense' is a trumping argument?

For the drivers who don't like traffice calming measures, 'Yeah I don't see why WE should pay for them speed bumps'

Or the thug complaining about the police 'Why should I pay for them?'

Or enter yoru greivance here.

We pay our taxes, and our goverments use these and other taxes to pay for the running of the country. It's just the way it is, and to say 'Why should I have to pay for it' smacks of childeish tantrums.
Greater Trostia
13-06-2007, 18:15
Bah thats a rubbsish argument. Just because you don't agree with a thing why feel that the old 'tax payers expense' is a trumping argument?

Because among other reasons, TPF here is against immigrants because they get free stays (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12760818&postcount=74). Seems he's OK with using taxes to pay for 'free stays' for life for prisoners, but not at all to support immigrant education.


We pay our taxes, and our goverments use these and other taxes to pay for the running of the country. It's just the way it is, and to say 'Why should I have to pay for it' smacks of childeish tantrums.

Yeah. Like ... No taxation without representation. Boston Tea Party. Those childish people should have just realized that, "It's just the way it is."
The Potato Factory
14-06-2007, 05:30
How liberal of you. Let's feed and clothe murderers, give them shelter, and let's do it all on the taxpayer's expense.

You're assuming that I'm YOU. See, I'd work their asses off.
Greater Trostia
14-06-2007, 06:32
You're assuming that I'm YOU.

Nah, if I thought that, I'd put a gun to my head and end my obviously worthless existence.

See, I'd work their asses off.

Big deal. They won't put into the economy more than it takes to support and guard them. Unlike immigrants. But the economy doesn't matter to you... you're a libtard.
The Potato Factory
14-06-2007, 06:44
Big deal. They won't put into the economy more than it takes to support and guard them.

You'd be surprised what a day in the 'ole can do.
Nodinia
14-06-2007, 09:19
Nah, if I thought that, I'd put a gun to my head and end my obviously worthless existence.


If you were him and wanted to do that, you'd be better off putting the gun to your ass.
Greater Trostia
14-06-2007, 18:42
You'd be surprised what a day in the 'ole can do.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if putting someone in the hole can help the economy at all, since it can't. Are you gonna say anything halfways reasonable anytime soon?
Peepelonia
14-06-2007, 18:51
Because among other reasons, TPF here is against immigrants because they get free stays (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12760818&postcount=74). Seems he's OK with using taxes to pay for 'free stays' for life for prisoners, but not at all to support immigrant education.

Well TPF, just aint right in the head, it's a common ailment of the bigoted.


Yeah. Like ... No taxation without representation. Boston Tea Party. Those childish people should have just realized that, "It's just the way it is."

Umm I can see you don't agree with me on this one. Let me try another tract then.

You pay whatever tax you pay in whatever forms you pay it in.

The goverment uses this tax income to run the country. The fact that you disagree with certian aspects of what they spend this money on, in this instance life imprison ment,. actualy effects the goverment very little.

We will always need prisons, and some prisioners will need to stay there for the rest of their life. In actual day to day living, this effects you not one jot.

You are not all of a sudden asked to pay more tax than you have been paying, and so the old 'Not with my tax dollar' argument is redundent.

It means nothing, it actualy will effect no change, and so appears(to me) to be more like a tantrum than a valid argument.

The day that our goverments up the basic rate of tax too much, or impose a new tax specificaly for project X, is the day that this line of reasoning may have any validity, but untill then it is like shouting 'it's not fair'
Greater Trostia
14-06-2007, 19:05
The goverment uses this tax income to run the country.

Well, and pad people's purses. And invade foreign nations and kill foreign people.

The fact that you disagree with certian aspects of what they spend this money on, in this instance life imprison ment,. actualy effects the goverment very little.

So? Like I'm going to stop disagreeing?

We will always need prisons, and some prisioners will need to stay there for the rest of their life. In actual day to day living, this effects you not one jot.

Yeah, it does, because it contributes to what is already much too high a tax level, and that effects the cost of anything I purchase and the amount of return I get from working my tired ass 9-5.

You are not all of a sudden asked to pay more tax than you have been paying, and so the old 'Not with my tax dollar' argument is redundent.

That's like saying if you're already getting ass-raped, complaining about ass-rape is redundant since you're not going to get more ass-raped.

It means nothing, it actualy will effect no change, and so appears(to me) to be more like a tantrum than a valid argument.

It isn't an argument, it's a pointing out of hypocrisy in the poster with whom I was communicating.

The day that our goverments up the basic rate of tax too much, or impose a new tax specificaly for project X, is the day that this line of reasoning may have any validity, but untill then it is like shouting 'it's not fair'

If something isn't fair, I'm gonna shout. Sorry if that disturbs you.
Peepelonia
14-06-2007, 19:28
Well, and pad people's purses. And invade foreign nations and kill foreign people.

Well thats true.



So? Like I'm going to stop disagreeing?

Heh I have not asked you not to! Do what you want, but y'know if ya piss in the wind ya get wet strides.



Yeah, it does, because it contributes to what is already much too high a tax level, and that effects the cost of anything I purchase and the amount of return I get from working my tired ass 9-5.

Yeah I agree we all pay too much tax. Now instead of saying 'not with my tax dollar' what are you really going to do about it?



That's like saying if you're already getting ass-raped, complaining about ass-rape is redundant since you're not going to get more ass-raped.

Heheh I like that, pity it's not true though. I said that line of reasoning effects no change. I do not advocate whineging for the sake of it, but do advocate ideas that will effect change.


It isn't an argument, it's a pointing out of hypocrisy in the poster with whom I was communicating.

What you saying 'why should they use my taxes to keep people in prision for life' shows up TPF hypocrasy? How?


If something isn't fair, I'm gonna shout. Sorry if that disturbs you.

Heh that does not disturb me, remeber I only said that line of argument is a rubbish argument. I stand by that, it is. I really don't mind much what you say, I don't know you(cept I get a feeling you were at the last London meet? So perhaps one day we can do this over beer!) so what you say has very little baring on my actual real life.
Pyotr
14-06-2007, 23:22
Just about every other single white person I've spoken to, and most East Asians, agree that Muslims are a fucking problem.

Hooray groupthink!
Gauthier
15-06-2007, 00:02
Hooray groupthink!

It's more ironic when you realize Potato and Kimchi believe Muslims are a hivemind.
New Manvir
15-06-2007, 00:09
Campaigners say that the issue was misunderstood and that the authorities had been unwilling to get involved for fear of upsetting cultural sensitivities in minority communities.

Banaz had contacted police a number of times before her death, saying her life was at risk, but no action was taken.

That really pisses me off.........fuck their cultural sensitivity if they broke the law...

......They should get nothing less than 10 - 15 years.......
Katganistan
15-06-2007, 02:40
This pissing match is over.

Greater Trostia and The Potato Factory, you're both warned for flaming and personal attacks on each other.