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Why Do You Think Nazilism Is Wrong Or Right?

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NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 04:28
Why Do You Think Naziism Is Wrong Or Right? Post here and say your opinion about it and i will respond to what your point is.
Jello Biafra
23-05-2007, 04:31
I disagree with Nazism. I don't feel that the content of melanin in a person's skin measures their worth.
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 04:32
I have no idea what Nazilism is, but I assume you mean what is wrong with being a Nazi.

It would be easier (although impossible) to list something that is good about being a Nazi.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 04:33
Let me ask you this, do you believe Nazism was right or wrong?
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 04:36
No doubt the hidden context here is 'look at all the good things they did," but all things considered, taking into account the horrible, horrible things they also did, I just don't need a train to be on time that fucking bad.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 04:40
Why Do You Think Naziism Is Wrong Or Right? Post here and say your opinion about it and i will respond to what your point is.

Considering your name (the NPD being pretty much a new Nazi party in Germany as far as I know), I'm going to guess you think it's right, but please correct me if I'm wrong about that. I think it's pretty obvious what's wrong with Nazism. Glaringly racist policies and rampant militarism are two big points.
Soviet Houston
23-05-2007, 04:42
I hate Nazism because of its genocidal anti-Semitism.

But the Palestinians and the Islamic-controlled Arab states in the Middle East are trying to accomplish the same thing.
New Stalinberg
23-05-2007, 04:43
Not going to touch this thread with a ten foot pole.
OuroborosCobra
23-05-2007, 04:43
I like being alive, and I like my family being alive. That tends to change under Nazi rule. They tend to decide people like me are part of some conspiracy that lost them some war, and make up a series of excuses for oppressive programs that eventually lead to me getting killed by Zyklon-B.

Really, does this question even need answering? Are we that stupid, people?
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 04:44
ok First off Yes i am a nazi. 1st for jello it is not based on the person skin it is the race and the blood for what they did to the world for example slavs are white but they are looked as dirty people not on the skin but the blood 2nd to eurgrovia i misspelled sorry. and 10 things for 10 things can you create more specific about nazi's there are many different things. 3rd to lancaster yes i am. and 4th to cannot think of a name i dont understand what you mean my english is bad sorry.
Holyawesomeness
23-05-2007, 04:45
Lets see, the traits I dislike about it:
-Planned economy as I don't think that those work in the long run interests of the people.
-War-like as that costs a lot of lives and other resources.
-Kills lots of Jews and other groups, that is something that seems unjust and an inefficient use of human resources(sounds cold but I don't like being some moralist).
-Leaders have stupid mustaches and combovers.
Jello Biafra
23-05-2007, 04:49
1st for jello it is not based on the person skin it is the race and the blood for what they did to the world for example slavs are white but they are looked as dirty people not on the skin but the blood Race isn't a blood type, it's a skin type.

"The term race describes populations or groups of people distinguished by different sets of characteristics, and beliefs about common ancestry. The most widely used human racial categories are based on visible traits (especially skin color, facial features and hair texture), and self-identification"

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 04:51
Lets see, the traits I dislike about it:
-Planned economy as I don't think that those work in the long run interests of the people.
-War-like as that costs a lot of lives and other resources.
-Kills lots of Jews and other groups, that is something that seems unjust and an inefficient use of human resources(sounds cold but I don't like being some moralist).
-Leaders have stupid mustaches and combovers.

1.) planned ecomony i dont recall that
2.) war-like they cost alot of lives on both sides we risked that and lost but we tried
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
23-05-2007, 04:51
I don't need all facets of my life managed by a bureaucrat of any kind, so Naziism is out, as is Communism, and many forms of Socialism. Pretty simple, and no need to even get into race and culture.
Kroisistan
23-05-2007, 04:52
Wrong. You know, that whole Holocaust thing. The warmongering dictatorship element isn't helping their case either.

Of course if we're talking modern Nazi parties, who can technically claim no connection to either of those, than I'll go with the anti-EU, nationalistic, xenophobic, anti-Liberty stance they generally take.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 04:53
Why Do You Think Naziism Is Wrong Or Right? Post here and say your opinion about it and i will respond to what your point is.

Nazism is fascism or maybe what the Confederacy believed on crack. (as in they're the idiotic version of fascism)

They based human worth on petty physical traits and they made really dumb moves in WWII which ended them. Like turning on Stalin and making a powerful enemy even though Germany was begining to lose for example.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 04:53
Race isn't a blood type, it's a skin type.

"The term race describes populations or groups of people distinguished by different sets of characteristics, and beliefs about common ancestry. The most widely used human racial categories are based on visible traits (especially skin color, facial features and hair texture), and self-identification"

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race


Skin type is included in their but you said hair texture and facial features meaning Blood and the DNA have to control these features as a race.
Hynation
23-05-2007, 04:54
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

How does that justify genocide?
Cannot think of a name
23-05-2007, 04:56
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

You might be thinking of 'landlords.' Lots of wars start over landlords. You could argue that was what our (the American) revolution was all about. It's not always 'jewish landlords' (in fact it hardly ever is) but it is often landlords. Imagine fucking that up. That must be embarrassing to you, but it was landlords you where pissed at. Who knew?
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 04:58
How does that justify genocide?

because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.
Hynation
23-05-2007, 04:59
because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.

So who decides what race is essentially weaker?...and how?
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 04:59
You might be thinking of 'landlords.' Lots of wars start over landlords. You could argue that was what our (the American) revolution was all about. It's not always 'jewish landlords' (in fact it hardly ever is) but it is often landlords. Imagine fucking that up. That must be embarrassing to you, but it was landlords you where pissed at. Who knew?

World War I wasn't really caused by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand or the tense relations among the European states. It was landlords. Damn those landlords!

(just kidding, but yeah, Nazism is bad, etc)
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:00
Been a while since we've had a Nazi thread on here.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:01
You might be thinking of 'landlords.' Lots of wars start over landlords. You could argue that was what our (the American) revolution was all about. It's not always 'jewish landlords' (in fact it hardly ever is) but it is often landlords. Imagine fucking that up. That must be embarrassing to you, but it was landlords you where pissed at. Who knew?

No most of them were jewish. the people at that time knew they lived though it i asked my grandparents from both sides and they both said the jews put the rent high and it was so hard to live in a good place.
Andaluciae
23-05-2007, 05:01
Totalitarianism. World War II. The Holocaust.

Three strikes and you're out.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:03
Been a while since we've had a Nazi thread on here.

The last one thought rape was good. :(

And he called me a cheap RPer:eek:

BOOHOO! *cries* :(


I'm only borderline fascist, and I think Nazism is to Fascsism and the WBC is to Christianity.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:04
The last one thought rape was good. :(

And he called me a cheap RPer:eek:

BOOHOO! *cries* :(


I'm only borderline fascist, and I think Nazism is to Fascsism and the WBC is to Christianity.

I wonder how many of these kinds of posters are trolls?
Ohshucksiforgotourname
23-05-2007, 05:04
no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

How about giving them back their homeland (Palestine) and letting them live THERE? (Actually this would be a VERY good question for the Arab nations in the Middle East - if they did THAT it would end the "Middle East crisis" instantly)

THAT is what Germany SHOULD have done, instead of killing and torturing millions of them, but they didn't.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:06
How about giving them back their homeland (Palestine) and letting them live THERE? (Actually this would be a VERY good question for the Arab nations in the Middle East - if they did THAT it would end the "Middle East crisis" instantly)

THAT is what Germany SHOULD have done, instead of killing and torturing millions of them, but they didn't.

We tried that they no one took them.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:06
How about giving them back their homeland (Palestine) and letting them live THERE? (Actually this would be a VERY good question for the Arab nations in the Middle East - if they did THAT it would end the "Middle East crisis" instantly)

THAT is what Germany SHOULD have done, instead of killing and torturing millions of them, but they didn't.

Good point. They should have but their strong negative emotions forbade them from doing so.

They resented the Jews and wanted them to feel pain due to the fact that they had better living standards in Germany while Germans lived there lived in poverty on their own land. They felt the same way towards Jews as yanks do to Mexicans. Many Jews also joined the communist party and left wing groups and sided with the "enemies of Germany" who supposedly helped cause social chaos in Germany.

I still stand strong in my beleif however that it is not the Jews to blame it is liberalism, they brainwashed Jews and Hitler saw them as the immidiate cause for all the damage liberalis mwas doing. And if you don't beleive me look at Japan in the exact same time period, liberalism was doing the same stuff there and they provoked Fascists to take control just as it did in Germany. I don't think it'd coincidence that two different nations in completely different hemispheres would suddenly once exposed to liberalism would mutate from democracy to fascsist right wing ultranationalistic empires that started by illegally invaded other territories as the allies or those who'd join the allies tried hard to use the law or appeasement to discourage them. The only difference is in Japan the lefties had no scapegoats.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:06
Oh this will be interesting. *sits down with popcorn and a large Pepsi.*
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:07
How about giving them back their homeland (Palestine) and letting them live THERE? (Actually this would be a VERY good question for the Arab nations in the Middle East - if they did THAT it would end the "Middle East crisis" instantly)

THAT is what Germany SHOULD have done, instead of killing and torturing millions of them, but they didn't.

Then there's the problem of where the Palestinians go, which of course has been playing out for a long time now.

The Europeans SHOULD have accepted the Jews and integrated them. But they've always had strong anti-Semitic sentiment in some form, I guess.

(edit: Not saying anything in particular about Europeans, here in the US we have our own serious problems with racism. Also, I don't want this to shift to a Middle East debate, but whatever.)
New Manvir
23-05-2007, 05:08
I disagree with Nazism. I don't feel that the content of melanin in a person's skin measures their worth.

same
Hynation
23-05-2007, 05:08
Oh this will be interesting. *sits down with popcorn and a large Pepsi.*

This is going to be hell...with Nazis...Since when did Cultural and racial supremacy become moral?
Ohshucksiforgotourname
23-05-2007, 05:08
No most of them were jewish. the people at that time knew they lived though it i asked my grandparents from both sides and they both said the jews put the rent high and it was so hard to live in a good place.

Why do you hate the Jews? They were chased across the earth for 1878 years, being killed, abused, tortured, falsely accused, denied even basic human rights, discriminated against, segregated into separate places so pogroms (killing sprees) could be carried out against them, sold for slaves, beaten, bruised, battered, raped, plundered, pillaged, with no rest anywhere they went, and here YOU are, low-rating them.

Give the Jews a break (and their homeland back)! They've had enough persecution already.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:09
This is going to be hell...with Nazis...

There's a Hell without Nazis? :confused:
New Manvir
23-05-2007, 05:09
Not going to touch this thread with a ten foot pole.

you'll try to get out but it'll drag you back in. It's UNSTOPPABLE!!!
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:10
Good point.

They resented the Jews and wanted them to feel pain due to the fact that they had better living standards in Germany while Germans lived there lived in poverty on their own land. They felt the same way towards Jews as yanks do to Mexicans.

True Why would these people that do nothing to help the country have better living then the people that built up the country and that it is their land.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:10
I'm only borderline fascist, and I think Nazism is to Fascsism and the WBC is to Christianity.
The omission of racism from fascism more generally defined does not make it one lick more palatable in my books.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 05:11
Erm, wrong. Duh. It frightens me that anyone would be so ignorant or foolish not to see why ideas like "let's kill everybody who looks a little different from us" are less than sane.
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:12
Good point.

They resented the Jews and wanted them to feel pain due to the fact that they had better living standards in Germany while Germans lived there lived in poverty on their own land. They felt the same way towards Jews as yanks do to Mexicans.


Except Americans don't, you know, herd Mexicans into concentration camps and gas them.
Hynation
23-05-2007, 05:12
There's a Hell without Nazis? :confused:

Nope its full of em...
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:12
Why do you hate the Jews? They were chased across the earth for 1878 years, being killed, abused, tortured, falsely accused, denied even basic human rights, discriminated against, segregated into separate places so pogroms (killing sprees) could be carried out against them, sold for slaves, beaten, bruised, battered, raped, plundered, pillaged, with no rest anywhere they went, and here YOU are, low-rating them.

Give the Jews a break (and their homeland back)! They've had enough persecution already.

People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.
Glorious Alpha Complex
23-05-2007, 05:14
because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.

Your race isn't stronger than any other race. If I could, I'd take you back in time and drop you off in the Warsaw ghetto before the uprising. Then maybe you'd see how "weak" the Jewish people were.

No most of them were jewish. the people at that time knew they lived though it i asked my grandparents from both sides and they both said the jews put the rent high and it was so hard to live in a good place.

yes, those evil Jews, just trying to keep a good Aryan down, huh? Or maybe in reality rent prices went high because of population issues and the law of supply and demand, and the Jews got scapegoated because they owned a lot of the land at the time.

Anyway, why does being of a "stronger race" (not that I accept that argument) give you any right to kill members of a "weaker race"? Do you ultimately just believe that might makes right? So if all the governments in the world were to choose to kill all Nazis and Nazi sympathizers on sight, would that be right just because they have all the guns?
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:14
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.

I have a question, are you a part of any Neo-Nazi group? I'm just curious because personally I believe that Neo-Nazis don't know crap about the Nazis of Germany back in the 1930s-40s. It's just the Ku Klux Klan with another symbol of hatred.
Ohshucksiforgotourname
23-05-2007, 05:14
Then there's the problem of where the Palestinians go, which of course has been playing out for a long time now.

The Europeans SHOULD have accepted the Jews and integrated them. But they've always had strong anti-Semitic sentiment in some form, I guess.

The "Palestinians" can go back to the Arab countries they came from.

And yes, i AM saying that the "Palestinians" DON'T belong there (i.e. in Palestine).

Those so-called "Palestinians" (so called by the news media because they are biased against Jews and in favor of Arabs and they WANT you to think that they (the "Palestinians") belong there and that Israel "stole" their land from them, which is simply not true) are not really Palestinians at all, in the sense of being born in Palestine; they are Arabs from other countries, illegally occupying Israel (under the guise of being "refugees from Arab countries") to try to run them (the Jews) out of their homeland.

The only reason those countries pretend not to want them in their countries is so they (the countries pretending not to want the Palestinians) can attack Israel by proxy.

But you are right about the Europeans; they SHOULD have laid aside their anti-Semitic bigotry.

The Europeans SHOULD have accepted the Jews and integrated them.

I don't know if you've ever noticed this, but the Jews tended not to fully integrate into any society they encountered in 1878 years of wandering and fleeing from persecution. It's true that SOME Jews did integrate, but you still had the synagogues, the long beards, the rabbis, copies of the Torah (part of the Bible) in Hebrew, prayers in Hebrew, that sort of thing.

And what language, other than Hebrew, has survived over 4000+ years? English hasn't been around that long; nor have Spanish, French, German, Portuguese, etc.

Just a little food for thought.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:15
Nope its full of em...

How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 05:16
Well... Lessee, I could point out the nascent racism, the disgusting glorification of violence and idiocy, the repression of human potential, the hypocrisy, the fact that Nazism destroys the ability to progress, or just bad taste facial hair, but instead, I think I'll respond like a Nazi would:

Because Nazis are inferior, and only good for being used as targets.
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:16
Those so-called "Palestinians" (so called by the news media because they are biased against Jews and in favor of Arabs and they WANT you to think that they (the "Palestinians") belong there and that Israel "stole" their land from them, which is simply not true) are not really Palestinians at all; they are Arabs from other countries
The only reason those countries pretend not to want them in their countries is so they can attack Israel by proxy.
Churchill took the land from the Arabs and gave it to the Israeli's, so you could say it was stolen.

How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.
Good people don't slaughter innocent people you fucking idiot. Also, there is no God. Ready to kill me?

I think Nazi's should be lined up and shot. Sure, I would be stooping to your level, but I am willing to bear the misery of killing racist scum.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:17
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.
Proof?
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:17
How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.

Good Christians and cruelty don't mix. *nods*
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:17
I have a question, are you a part of any Neo-Nazi group? I'm just curious because personally I believe that Neo-Nazis don't know crap about the Nazis of Germany back in the 1930s-40s. It's just the Ku Klux Klan with another symbol of hatred.

No i am NPD.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:18
How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.
Why would you care anyway? Nazism has roots in Nietzschean philosophy (as much as it may distort it), the latter emphatically rejecting Christian ethics and belief.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:19
Ok, what is NPD?
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:20
Well... Lessee, I could point out the nascent racism, the disgusting glorification of violence and idiocy, the repression of human potential, the hypocrisy, the fact that Nazism destroys the ability to progress, or just bad taste facial hair, but instead, I think I'll respond like a Nazi would:

Because Nazis are inferior, and only good for being used as targets.

Good points.

At least my version of fascism [which my IC nation was] would ovoid repressing human potential, promote progress, ovoid judging people for stupid reasons and ovoid hypocrisy.
HGTV Watchers
23-05-2007, 05:20
Nazism is the path to save the white race
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:20
Ok, what is NPD?
Its Germany's new cancer...I mean Nazi party.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:20
Good points.

At least my version of fascism [which my IC nation was] would ovoid repressing human potential, promote progress, ovoid judging people for stupid reasons and ovoid hypocrisy.
Would it also teach little kids to spell avoid properly?
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:20
I believe that the idea of racial superiority is wrong. BUT what Hitler did for Germany prior to 1939 was among its greatest moments.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:21
Your race isn't stronger than any other race. If I could, I'd take you back in time and drop you off in the Warsaw ghetto before the uprising. Then maybe you'd see how "weak" the Jewish people were.



yes, those evil Jews, just trying to keep a good Aryan down, huh? Or maybe in reality rent prices went high because of population issues and the law of supply and demand, and the Jews got scapegoated because they owned a lot of the land at the time.

Anyway, why does being of a "stronger race" (not that I accept that argument) give you any right to kill members of a "weaker race"? Do you ultimately just believe that might makes right? So if all the governments in the world were to choose to kill all Nazis and Nazi sympathizers on sight, would that be right just because they have all the guns?


1.) if we were not stronger how were we able to get from a destroyed country to almost taking all of Europe ALONE!


2.) if the government did that fine but we will still not die because we are strong and we will fight forever.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:21
The "Palestinians" can go back to the Arab countries they came from.

And yes, i AM saying that the "Palestinians" DON'T belong there.

Those so-called "Palestinians" (so called by the news media because they are biased against Jews and in favor of Arabs and they WANT you to think that they (the "Palestinians") belong there and that Israel "stole" their land from them, which is simply not true) are not really Palestinians at all; they are Arabs from other countries
The only reason those countries pretend not to want them in their countries is so they can attack Israel by proxy.

There's so much wrong with your argument that I don't even know where to begin. First of all, I do have Palestinian (or rather "Palestinian", if you prefer) background, so perhaps I have a little bias. My father's family came from a village in the Galilee and had strong roots there. Now they're scattered, some in Lebanon, some in the Persian Gulf states and some in the US.

In any case, for whatever reason, there ARE over a million people living in extreme poverty in Gaza, which is essentially a refugee state, and 400,000 refugees living in similar poverty in UN camps in Lebanon. The Israelis will have to deal with them somehow, whether through diplomacy or militarism. If they choose the latter route, they'll basically have to commit an ethnic cleansing (at best.)

Also, can you cite sources that there weren't in fact people living in the land known as Israel or Palestine before 1947, when the partition plan was proposed in the UN? Jews, Christians and Muslims were living in the territory and had for ages. I'm just interested in where you get your information from, because it doesn't seem to quite match with mine.
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 05:21
ovoid hypocrisy.

Why would your eggs be hypocrites?
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:21
I believe that the idea of racial superiority is wrong. BUT what Hitler did for Germany prior to 1939 was among its greatest moments.
And then brought it crashing to the ground. In the long term, he was not much of a leader at all.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:21
Its Germany's new cancer...I mean Nazi party.

Ok, so what does N.P.D. stand for?
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:23
How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.

It's not just enough that they were called Christians, they have to have Jesus's teaching in day to day life, killing innocent people just because they were 'inferior' wasn't really a part of Jesus's teachings. In fact...it was the opposite...
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:23
Ok, so what does N.P.D. stand for?

Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands, or the National Democratic Party of Germany.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:24
Except Americans don't, you know, herd Mexicans into concentration camps and gas them.

They have camps where they herded and are forced to listen to seminars about how illegal immigration is bad, which is given to them in a monotone apathetic voice on end. Then let out to immigrate again. That might be just as bad. :p
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:24
Nazism is the path to save the white race

White supremacist assholes really make me want to just marry a black person or a Jewish person out of spite and just have a bunch of mixed race/ethnic children to piss you guys off more.
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:24
Ok, so what does N.P.D. stand for?
National Democratic Party of Germany (Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands in German).

Claims to be Democratic party, its actually a a party of racist fascists. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany)
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:24
Its Germany's new cancer...I mean Nazi party.

New Cancer Eh?! you guys are just full of opions no facts just that you say nazis are bad becsaue they killed people etc. There are always reasons for everything. The Real Cancer is all the immagrants coming to our country and f***in it up. So more fights will just arise because it is all multi-kulti then the country will just fall apart slowly.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:25
Why would your eggs be hypocrites?

Eggs? :confused:

Ummmm, because my Reformer Fascsist Chickens are devoted to the welfare of the state and it's citezen's breakfast. *nods* :D
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:25
New Cancer Eh?! you guys are just full of opions no facts just that you say nazis are bad becsaue they killed people etc. There are always reasons for everything. The Real Cancer is all the immagrants coming to our country and f***in it up. So more fights will just arise because it is all multi-kulti then the country will just fall apart slowly.
You have your head so far up your own ass, I am surprised you can read what I wrote.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:25
National Democratic Party of Germany (Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands in German).

Claims to be Democratic party, its actually a aprty of racist fascists. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany)

So, exactly how much power do they have in Germany?
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:26
White supremacist assholes really make me want to just marry a black person or a Jewish person out of spite and just have a bunch of mixed race/ethnic children to piss you guys off more.
Do children with a white Jew even count as ethnic? :confused:
Usizevl
23-05-2007, 05:26
=Eurgrovia;12683580]Good people don't slaughter innocent people you fucking idiot. Also, there is no God.

the nazis didnt believe in God either, they followed satan.


I think Nazi's should be lined up and shot. Sure, I would be stooping to your level, but I am willing to bear the misery of killing racist scum.

you are a nazi too.:( :mp5:
Ohshucksiforgotourname
23-05-2007, 05:27
yes, those evil Jews, just trying to keep a good Aryan down, huh? Or maybe in reality rent prices went high because of population issues and the law of supply and demand, and the Jews got scapegoated because they owned a lot of the land at the time.

Anyway, why does being of a "stronger race" (not that I accept that argument) give you any right to kill members of a "weaker race"? Do you ultimately just believe that might makes right? So if all the governments in the world were to choose to kill all Nazis and Nazi sympathizers on sight, would that be right just because they have all the guns?

A very good point. To all you out there who believe that might makes right:

You're WRONG.

MIGHT DOES NOT MAKE RIGHT.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:27
Do children with a white Jew even count as ethnic? :confused:

Well they would still be upset that I married and breed with an inferior race anyways so does it really matter?
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:27
You have your head so far up your own ass, I am surprised you can read what I wrote.

mmm So now you are just using Opions to describe what i said with no politcal respondse to what i said.
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:27
So, exactly how much power do they have in Germany?
They got 7.3% of the votes in 2006 somehow, and they got representation in the parliament.
Ollonen
23-05-2007, 05:28
because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.

Hmph. If there were superior race the others would not have survived to this point. AND WHAT ON EARHT MAKES GERMANS ANY SUPERIOR THAN OTHERS? You should remember that the attributes of different "races" can also result something good, but if you think that you will have übermensch by killing every other people on earth and creating it inside a people where everyone look and are same, well, I guess you never heard about inbreeding.. If jewish were any weaker than germans, why were they the rich and civilized class in Germany (Albert Einstein, for example).
I think Emma goldman was right in saying:

"Indeed, conceit, arrogance, and egotism are the essentials of patriotism. Let me illustrate. Patriotism assumes that our globe is divided into little spots, each one surrounded by an iron gate. Those who have had the fortune of being born on some particular spot, consider themselves better, nobler, grander, more intelligent than the living beings inhabiting any other spot. It is, therefore, the duty of everyone living on that chosen spot to fight, kill, and die in the attempt to impose his superiority upon all the others. "
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:28
And then brought it crashing to the ground. In the long term, he was not much of a leader at all.

I agree.

That is why I said Before 1939. Hitler should have been happy, Poland would have caved when the Soviets came a few yeas later and in exchange for German help they could have been "Persuaded" to give up all former german lands.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:28
Well they would still be upset that I married and breed with an inferior race anyways so does it really matter?
I'm just curious, since I'm not sure how you designate such things in the USA.
Glorious Alpha Complex
23-05-2007, 05:28
1.) if we were not stronger how were we able to get from a destroyed country to almost taking all of Europe ALONE!
You wern't fucking alone. You had Italy and Japan on your side. You caught France in a sneak attack through a neutral state (a rather dishonerable tactic) and were held there for the entire fucking war.

2.) if the government did that fine but we will still not die because we are strong and we will fight forever.

No, you will die off, and in a century or likely less you will be forgotten to all but history students the day before a test. You are weak minded sheep, who no longer even have teeth.

And most likely, from the lack of intelligence shown in your posts, your a fifteen year old kid with pimples who no one likes, and you've been looking for a way to blame it on someone, anyone, but yourself.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:28
So, exactly how much power do they have in Germany?

I bet it's heavily infiltrated by the German police. It would be funny if an NPD candidate won a Bundestag seat, then it turned out later that he was a spy all along. But I'm pretty sure they'll never win any seats, considering how the German system works.
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:29
mmm So now you are just using Opions to describe what i said with no politcal respondse to what i said.
How can I respond politically to someone spewing racism? If you are racist, you are beyond hope, and are far beyond debatable.
OuroborosCobra
23-05-2007, 05:29
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

Ignoring the fact that none of that is the least bit true, answer me this:

Does building factories where living people (those Jews you don't want) walk in one side, are gassed until dead, and then dead bodies come out the other seem like the proper response?
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:29
Would it also teach little kids to spell avoid properly?

ICly during the time of the Reformer Revolution in South Lizasauria (the new fascist government taking over the old imperialistic foreign one) most of the books were burnt so they had to get along with what they had and the knowledge each "freedom fighter" and those on their side had meaning that some of our words were mispelled for generations which added up to the anger we had for foreigners.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 05:30
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

Hmm...

Goebbels words ring true...
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:31
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.

But it's Judaism, they don't beleive in forcing their beleifs and views on everyone, just all Jews. They don't go around like mormons recruiting.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:31
They got 7.3% of the votes in 2006 somehow, and they got representation in the parliament.

Wasn't that just in one state of Germany? I don't think they made those kinds of numbers in the national elections.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:31
ICly during the time of the Reformer Revolution in South Lizasauria (the new fascist government taking over the old imperialistic foreign one) most of the books were burnt so they had to get along with what they had and the knowledge each "freedom fighter" and those on their side had meaning that some of our words were mispelled for generations which added up to the anger we had for foreigners.
Comical, but just a note - NSG is not for nation roleplaying. Trolling, maybe. But not RP.
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 05:32
mmm So now you are just using Opions to describe what i said with no politcal respondse to what i said.

Is Opion like Opium? Parrot, darling, Nazism is a dead ideology. Nazis have been reduced to trolling forums and hanging out in bars trying to dazzle onlookers with the way the light reflects off of their scalps. Thankfully, tolerance is increasing across the western world, and, well, Nazis like you will fade, like the Nazis before them. The "clash" of cultures is merely the discomfort of assimilation, and the mistaken belief that the cat can return to the bag is delusional. We are past the era of the lonesome state, and the lonesome power. The world is too flat, too interconnected for it to be otherwise.

Just move to Iran, Nazism is alive and well there.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:32
You wern't fucking alone. You had Italy and Japan on your side. You caught France in a sneak attack through a neutral state (a rather dishonerable tactic) and were held there for the entire fucking war.

No, you will die off, and in a century or likely less you will be forgotten to all but history students the day before a test. You are weak minded sheep, who no longer even have teeth.

And most likely, from the lack of intelligence shown in your posts, your a fifteen year old kid with pimples who no one likes, and you've been looking for a way to blame it on someone, anyone, but yourself.

Italy did nothing to help in the war when we tell them to defend a back flank they surrender. and Japan was on the other side of the world and did nothing to reinforce german troops. Why do you people always try to push peoples appreances on a agrument when they get scared?
Eurgrovia
23-05-2007, 05:33
Wasn't that just in one state of Germany? I don't think they made those kinds of numbers in the national elections.
Oh, yeah, I was wrong. They got 7.3% of the vote in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. They only got 1.6% of the national vote in 2005.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:34
It's not just enough that they were called Christians, they have to have Jesus's teaching in day to day life, killing innocent people just because they were 'inferior' wasn't really a part of Jesus's teachings. In fact...it was the opposite...

Jesus was Jewish come to think of it.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:34
So, White Supremists on this thread, umm, how do you see handicapped/disabled people? Nazi Germany did exterminate the handicapped/disabled in their camps.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:35
Jesus was Jewish come to think of it.
I am still curious why this should even matter to a Nazi. Their ideology and Christianity do not integrate well.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:35
Jesus was Jewish come to think of it.

Ahh the irony...
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:35
They have camps where they herded and are forced to listen to seminars about how illegal immigration is bad, which is given to them in a monotone apathetic voice on end. Then let out to immigrate again. That might be just as bad. :p

Yes, no doubt some folks would say anything else would be classified as amnesty.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:36
Is Opion like Opium? Parrot, darling, Nazism is a dead ideology. Nazis have been reduced to trolling forums and hanging out in bars trying to dazzle onlookers with the way the light reflects off of their scalps. Thankfully, tolerance is increasing across the western world, and, well, Nazis like you will fade, like the Nazis before them. The "clash" of cultures is merely the discomfort of assimilation, and the mistaken belief that the cat can return to the bag is delusional. We are past the era of the lonesome state, and the lonesome power. The world is too flat, too interconnected for it to be otherwise.

Just move to Iran, Nazism is alive and well there.

Sure they National Socialst in some fashion but they Muslim and hate christians etc. so they dont fit the whole branch of naziism.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 05:37
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.

...

That's human history since the dawn of fucking time. Do you honestly believe that the current German "bloodline" were the first god-damn people in in the Area? If you do, my god are you not only delusional beyond words, but have the intelligence of a pre-schooler.

Quite honestly, human existance has always been about kicking people out of their lands. Always. The indigenous people of today were most definitely not the indigenous people of a few thousand(Sometime hundred) years ago.

Really, do you pay attention in classes at all? This is basic bloody stuff.
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:37
I am still curious why this should even matter to a . Their ideology and Christianity do not integrate well.

Yes, the s weren't exactly down with Christianity. Goebbels d it; The religion has Jewish roots after all. And frankly, because the state did have a religion of sorts: Fuhrer-worship. Anything else had to be eradicated.
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 05:37
Sure they National Socialst in some fashion but they Muslim and hate christians etc. so they dont fit the whole branch of naziism.

Not really. Nazism is just advanced fuckheadedness. It crosses borders, nationalities, religions, races, and arbitrary lines in the sand with a single, clumsy hop-step. That is. after all, the great irony. The racists are one in the same in every nation, and in every nation they as wrong as wrong can be.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:37
Comical, but just a note - NSG is not for nation roleplaying. Trolling, maybe. But not RP.

Hey you asked about my ideology and since it is is also the ideology of of my IC nations I thought posting that would make it easier to understand.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:38
Ahh the irony...

True but he changed the jewish ways.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:39
True but he changed the jewish ways.

Now it gets interesting!
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 05:40
Sure they National Socialst in some fashion but they Muslim and hate christians etc. so they dont fit the whole branch of naziism.

Well, they hate the Jews and wish for nothing more than all-out destruction of their "race"(Which doesn't even exist in the first place; as the common concept of "race" is merely a social construct varying greatly from region to region and culture to culture-but nobody clued you in on that, did they?).
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:40
Italy did nothing to help in the war when we tell them to defend a back flank they surrender. and Japan was on the other side of the world and did nothing to reinforce german troops. Why do you people always try to push peoples appreances on a agrument when they get scared?


First of all, I am VERY German Nationalist, and I look like what the Nazis wanted for there women, the blonde hair and blue eyes stuff. I agree that the way the immigrants can move to Germany and get paid for not working Permanently, not like UI in USA or Canada, ruins the system. I however, dont beilieve that it is the fact they are Turks or Jews that makes them inferior. In WWI the Turks drew off quite a few allied forces to assist us. In my eyes if a German acts the same way as a Jew they are both on equally low grounds. Superiority depends on actions, not race.

Italy = Tried, but didnt do much.
Japan = Valiant, but didnt directly support German troops.

and Glorious Alpha Complex, dont insult all Germans here, I humbly ask that you keep it against NDP.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:40
Not really. Nazism is just advanced fuckheadedness. It crosses borders, nationalities, religions, races, and arbitrary lines in the sand with a single, clumsy hop-step. That is. after all, the great irony. The racists are one in the same in every nation, and in every nation they as wrong as wrong can be.

well what makes them wrong? and a Persian Nationalist Socialst would not accept a German National Socialst into their country because their country is for their people.
South Lizasauria
23-05-2007, 05:41
I am still curious why this should even matter to a Nazi. Their ideology and Christianity do not integrate well.

Well how can you be Christian and attack God's people and the race of Jesus whose teaching Christianity is based upon and put them in death camps and call yourself Christian?
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 05:42
well what makes them wrong? and a Persian Nationalist Socialst would not accept a German National Socialst into their country because their country is for their people.

Yup, wrong. And stupid besides. Everyone thinks they are best, and none of them realizes that there aint no difference between them, 'cept for how they look. The great irony is that they all use the same reasons. If you put an Iranian Nazi and a German Nazi behind a blind, and gave each the same translator, you couldn't tell the two apart.

Nations are an out of date concept. The concept of the racially whole nation is impossible in the modern world. To even suggest it is the height of stupidity. Borders are mere lines in the sand, and in this world of technology, a border is meaningless.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:42
True but he changed the jewish ways.

True he did speak out against the leaders of the temple in Jerusalem mainly because they were corrupted officials, but he never preached about killing them and telling his followers to hate the Jewish people. Jesus Christ, was born, lived, and died a Jew. So how can you sit here and say that you hate Jews and yet, somehow proclaim to be the follower of a Jewish man, a Rabbi even. (I think he was a Rabbi, could someone correct me if I'm wrong, thanks.)
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:43
Well how can you be Christian and attack God's people and the race of Jesus whose teaching Christianity is based upon and put them in death camps and call yourself Christian?
Christian anti-semitism has its distinct bases. Nazism has its own worldview that goes against nearly everything Christianity stands for though.
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:44
Italy did nothing to help in the war when we tell them to defend a back flank they surrender. and Japan was on the other side of the world and did nothing to reinforce german troops. Why do you people always try to push peoples appreances on a agrument when they get scared?


I certainly hope what the National Socialists did will be remembered by everyone. Events as traumatic and horrifying as the Holocaust shouldn't be forgotten.

As to the other bit, as a general rule never did coordinate with his allies much... one of his many errors. The other, probably most notorious error, being that he thought the Wehrmacht could subdue Russia before the winter came. It caught up to him, General Zhukov came along and laid the smack down.
Questionable Decisions
23-05-2007, 05:44
White supremacist assholes really make me want to just marry a black person or a Jewish person out of spite and just have a bunch of mixed race/ethnic children to piss you guys off more.

Sign me up for that.

On the other hand, I'm kind of feeling like I should take the Nazi side on this one, I mean, they do appear to be outnumbered about 50 to 3 if I'm counting all the posters correctly.

No, wait, that would be stupid.

Why am I supposed to be preserving the white race again?
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:44
First of all, I am VERY German Nationalist, and I look like what the Nazis wanted for there women, the blonde hair and blue eyes stuff. I agree that the way the immigrants can move to Germany and get paid for not working Permanently, not like UI in USA or Canada, ruins the system. I however, dont beilieve that it is the fact they are Turks or Jews that makes them inferior. In WWI the Turks drew off quite a few allied forces to assist us. In my eyes if a German acts the same way as a Jew they are both on equally low grounds. Superiority depends on actions, not race.

Italy = Tried, but didnt do much.
Japan = Valiant, but didnt directly support German troops.

and Glorious Alpha Complex, dont insult all Germans here, I humbly ask that you keep it against NDP.


i agree with you. But for the actions and not race part well actions come from the race because the blood and the DNA from the race makes them do the actions they do.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:45
True he did speak out against the leaders of the temple in Jerusalem mainly because they were corrupted officials, but he never preached about killing them and telling his followers to hate the Jewish people. Jesus Christ, was born, lived, and died a Jew. So how can you sit here and say that you hate Jews and yet, somehow proclaim to be the follower of a Jewish man, a Rabbi even. (I think he was a Rabbi, could someone correct me if I'm wrong, thanks.)

Im pretty sure he wasnt. He didnt join any religion as far as i know. BTW good point. (Just so you know im kindo on NDP side) I dont think the religious justification is viable at all.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:48
Sign me up for that.

On the other hand, I'm kind of feeling like I should take the Nazi side on this one, I mean, they do appear to be outnumbered about 50 to 3 if I'm counting all the posters correctly.

No, wait, that would be stupid.

Why am I supposed to be preserving the white race again?

Because if you don't preserve the white race, then....something....bad....happens....

I dunno. I think I'll just marry a Filipina. They are sexy ladies.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 05:48
i agree with you. But for the actions and not race part well actions come from the race because the blood and the DNA from the race makes them do the actions they do.

...

Wow...

Uh...

I do believe I have found a new level of stupid...

Before this date the stupidest was that their cultures made them do it...

But now...

Just... WOW...

How do you breath? Honestly...

*Anthropology major-I'm pretty sure I know more about humans than you*
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:48
Well how can you be Christian and attack God's people and the race of Jesus whose teaching Christianity is based upon and put them in camps and call yourself Christian?


You really couldn't. But Lord knows enough Christians have done similar things throughout history on much smaller scales. If I may make a Monty Python reference, just to lighten the mood a bit:

KING ARTHUR: Patsy! You're Jewish? Why didn't you tell me?

PATSY: Well, it's not the sort of thing you say to a heavily armed Christian, Sire.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 05:49
Im pretty sure he wasnt. He didnt join any religion as far as i know. BTW good point. (Just so you know im kindo on NDP side) I dont think the religious justification is viable at all.

Back then, it was based on birth (still is to a large extent) and Jesus was born a Jew by Mary, so he was a Jew. He also practiced the monotheism common to the region, which was Judaism. But, you know, details.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:49
Im pretty sure he wasnt. He didnt join any religion as far as i know. BTW good point. (Just so you know im kindo on NDP side) I dont think the religious justification is viable at all.

Nazi, German Nationalist, and other White Supremists organization really should just drop the whole 'religious' angle and really, just say the truth, because guess what, no one is buying it, no one....
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 05:50
ok First off Yes i am a nazi.

A self described Nazi? WOW!!!

1st for jello it is not based on the person skin it is the race and the blood for what they did to the world for example slavs are white but they are looked as dirty people not on the skin but the blood

Which makes one a racist.

2nd to eurgrovia i misspelled sorry. and 10 things for 10 things can you create more specific about nazi's there are many different things.

Do you know anything about the history of the NDSP and the devestation it caused?

3rd to lancaster yes i am.

Which makes me puke
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:50
i agree with you. But for the actions and not race part well actions come from the race because the blood and the DNA from the race makes them do the actions they do.

Thats where I am inclined to disagree. I believe DNA is only appearance, how a person acts is determined by there own choices. Not what genes they have.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:50
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:51
Nazi, German Nationalist, and other White Supremists organization really should just drop the whole 'religious' angle and really, just say the truth, because guess what, no one is buying it, no one....
The highlighted group is not inherently antithetical to Christianity, nor is it by its nature anti-semitic.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 05:52
1.) planned ecomony i dont recall that
2.) war-like they cost alot of lives on both sides we risked that and lost but we tried
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

That goes along with Propaganda. The Jews were just living their lives like normal people. And what did the Jews of Poland ever do to Germany? NOTHING!!!

Come back when you know the history of Nazis. It does not end well.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:52
Back then, it was based on birth (still is to a large extent) and Jesus was born a Jew by Mary, so he was a Jew. He also practiced the monotheism common to the region, which was Judaism. But, you know, details.

True. But I dont believe he practiced the Jewish religion, I think he ate prk for example.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:53
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

No deal because as a USA Libertarian I believe that people have the right to determine where they live, and where they want to work, they shouldn't be separated into communities or countries just because you want to keep the blood line 'pure'. So you can take that deal and shove it.

FYI: The White bloodlines hasn't been 'pure' for a looonnngggg time, and I do mean long.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 05:53
Which makes one a racist.
Which obviously will not mean much to a Nazi - indeed, it'd be viewed as a positive trait.
Wilgrove
23-05-2007, 05:54
The highlighted group is not inherently antithetical to Christianity, nor is it by its nature anti-semitic.

Fair enough, thanks for the correction.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 05:54
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

I think that it is to late for that. Germany has so many immigrants and people of other heritage that it is foolish to say who is a German and who is not.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 05:54
because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.

Either this guy is nuts or he believes a different history.

Guess what? The stronger "race" survived. The Supreme Ayran State died.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 05:56
No most of them were jewish. the people at that time knew they lived though it i asked my grandparents from both sides and they both said the jews put the rent high and it was so hard to live in a good place.

And this solves the Propaganda question.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 05:56
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

Which is false. Your people immigrated there many years ago, pushing those who were there before you.

Welcome to the bloody real world: That what you think is true is false.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:57
I think that it is to late for that. Germany has so many immigrants and people of other heritage that it is foolish to say who is a German and who is not.

I know it is too late now to keep everything aryan but it is still possible to keep it white or at least Nordic. It is too late becasue all of you people that think it is racist to keep only one race for one nation push it and push it so people dont care anymore.
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 05:57
True. But I dont believe he practiced the Jewish religion, I think he ate prk for example.


Trust me. JESUS WAS A PRACTICING JEW. PERIOD. Not that that has anything to do with whether National Socialism is good or not.


Others have posted this before, but I'll reiterate it: Give up this whole Aryan homeland junk. The world's flatter now than ever before, and it's just not possible to avoid the influence of other peoples and cultures. Why fight it? Embrace it. You might even learn something.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 05:58
We tried that they no one took them.

You mean like trying to send them to Madagascar? Yea like that would have worked :rolleyes:
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 05:58
No deal because as a USA Libertarian I believe that people have the right to determine where they live, and where they want to work, they shouldn't be separated into communities or countries just because you want to keep the blood line 'pure'. So you can take that deal and shove it.

FYI: The White bloodlines hasn't been 'pure' for a looonnngggg time, and I do mean long.

*cough USA libertarian* this is not the USA m8. So you bring your self down in your melting pot.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:00
You mean like trying to send them to Madagascar? Yea like that would have worked :rolleyes:

No that is actually a good idear let them live there and they can be happy multi-Kulti people or W/e or they can go to the USA and melt them selves in your pot.
Soviestan
23-05-2007, 06:00
Nazism fails because extreme nationalism is incredibly stupid.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:01
I know it is too late now to keep everything aryan but it is still possible to keep it white or at least Nordic. It is too late becasue all of you people that think it is racist to keep only one race for one nation push it and push it so people dont care anymore.

The cultural concept of race is non-existent. Every culture views race different, simple as that.

Biological speaking, races follow simply superficial boundaries, with slight variations due to environment. There is virtually zero difference between "Aryans"(As you want to call it), Nordics, Africans, Hispanics, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, French, Slavs, Arabs, Kurds, or what have you.

Virtually none.

Let it sink in.

A little more.

One more time for the hell of it.

And...

None.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 06:01
i agree with you. But for the actions and not race part well actions come from the race because the blood and the DNA from the race makes them do the actions they do.

..........riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

First of all, the entire concept of "race" as we currently define it is nonsense. Pure, utter nonsense, with no biological basis. Society has randomly grouped together certain phenotypes and declared people displaying those phenotypes to be members of the same "race," regardless of actual genotype.

Then, of course, there's the silliness of considering Jews a "race." If you tried to narrow it down significantly - to, say, Ashkenazi Jews - you could at least begin to make a genetic connection, but to suggest that anyone who considers himself to be Jewish is more closely related to anyone else who considers himself to be Jewish than he is to many non-Jews is patent rubbish.

Finally, there's the complete and utter idiocy of suggesting that one's DNA "makes one do" anything short of actions undertaken in utero, such as, you know, developing ten fingers and ten toes. Please, o clever one, explain to us all how DNA makes you do things. Please. I look forward greatly to this explanation.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:01
Nazism fails because extreme nationalism is incredibly stupid.

stupid in what way? Be descriptive anyone can say anything is stupid.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:01
True Why would these people that do nothing to help the country have better living then the people that built up the country and that it is their land.

I remember a story told by one of my professors.

"A jew was sitting in a bar when a group of young nazis came in. One of them saw him and started jeering him. When the jew got up and left, he was asked by the Nazi what he was doing during the Great War (after all, propaganda stated that the Jews backstabbed the Germans). He looked at this young nazi and told him in his eye, I won the Iron Cross serving Germany."
Shakal
23-05-2007, 06:02
I know it is too late now to keep everything aryan but it is still possible to keep it white or at least Nordic. It is too late becasue all of you people that think it is racist to keep only one race for one nation push it and push it so people dont care anymore.

I care, trust me. In that case Sweden is the best, they have the "most pure" of all Germanic bloodlines due to the fact of low immigration.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:03
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.

So what the hell did the Jews do to the German People? Oh yea. NOTHING!!!! All they were doing was living their lives in Germany, serving their country as best they could. Then Hitler comes along and uses propaganda to cause problems.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 06:04
I care, trust me. In that case Sweden is the best, they have the "most pure" of all Germanic bloodlines due to the fact of low immigration.
You must be deluding yourself if you think Sweden has low immigration nowadays. Iceland, on the other hand, qualifies as having such.
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 06:04
Lets see, the traits I dislike about it:
-Planned economy as I don't think that those work in the long run interests of the people.
-War-like as that costs a lot of lives and other resources.
-Kills lots of Jews and other groups, that is something that seems unjust and an inefficient use of human resources(sounds cold but I don't like being some moralist).
-Leaders have stupid mustaches and combovers.

What was with that Charlie Chaplin stasche anyway? Doesn't exactly make one look charismatic.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 06:05
True. But I dont believe he practiced the Jewish religion, I think he ate prk for example.

Nope, the decision to exempt "Christians" from Jewish law came about well after Jesus's death, and was quite honestly due largely to the difficulty of getting people to convert if they had to get bits of their privates lopped off. Jesus was definitely a practicing Jew.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 06:05
No that is actually a good idear let them live there and they can be happy multi-Kulti people or W/e or they can go to the USA and melt them selves in your pot.

If you guys are so down on multi-kulti, why don't YOU all go to Madagascar instead? You can have pure-blood (lol) Aryan colonies down there and keep those dirty Jews/Turks/whoever out.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:05
stupid in what way? Be descriptive anyone can say anything is stupid.

Largely that it leads to extreme isolation, and a complete lack of trade of concepts and ideas.

Which is never good.

For instance, you do know that Algebra, one of the most heavily used mathematical systems in the world, was developed in the middle-east?

Gun-powder in China...

As well as other fine technologies that we depend upon to this day.

Not to mention that it leads to rather... violent outcomes. Not exactly a great thing to have, really.

As well, it makes zero logical sense.

So yeah... stupid.
Soviestan
23-05-2007, 06:07
stupid in what way? Be descriptive anyone can say anything is stupid.

Stupid in that basing ones worth on imaginary drawn up lines instead of the only thing that is important, is foolish.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 06:07
If you guys are so down on multi-kulti, why don't YOU all go to Madagascar instead? You can have pure-blood (lol) Aryan colonies down there and keep those dirty Jews/Turks/whoever out.

What did Madagascar ever do to deserve that? :p
Machiavellian Heaven
23-05-2007, 06:08
Nazism fails because extreme nationalism is incredibly stupid.


But then, anything taken to the utter extreme falls under the category of stupid.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:09
1.) if we were not stronger how were we able to get from a destroyed country to almost taking all of Europe ALONE!

Called propaganda and appeasement. When the allies finally got its act together, you were totally trashed, especially by the USSR.

2.) if the government did that fine but we will still not die because we are strong and we will fight forever.

And yet, the Nazi party was destroyed in WW II. Shows you how strong they were does it not? If you were stronger, you would not have won.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 06:09
You must be deluding yourself if you think Sweden has low immigration nowadays.

My mistake then. I mean that compared to Germany Sweden has alot more "Aryan" blood. Out of all the Germainic countries, I believe it has the lowest amount of foreigners.

Im just trying to say that defining people by race nowadays doesnt work. Germany has somewhere like 9 million immigrants, they will have children with Germans, those children will have children with Russians and so on... A "German" is not someone with a better bloodline, but more along the lines of one who is patriotic about being/living as a German.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 06:09
For instance, you do know that Algebra, one of the most heavily used mathematical systems in the world, was developed in the middle-east?
I believe Algebra has its origins in India.

Gun-powder in China...
Gun powder was developed independently of China in Europe.

I do not disagree with your basic thesis - just with these specific facts.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:09
..........riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

First of all, the entire concept of "race" as we currently define it is nonsense. Pure, utter nonsense, with no biological basis. Society has randomly grouped together certain phenotypes and declared people displaying those phenotypes to be members of the same "race," regardless of actual genotype.

Then, of course, there's the silliness of considering Jews a "race." If you tried to narrow it down significantly - to, say, Ashkenazi Jews - you could at least begin to make a genetic connection, but to suggest that anyone who considers himself to be Jewish is more closely related to anyone else who considers himself to be Jewish than he is to many non-Jews is patent rubbish.

Finally, there's the complete and utter idiocy of suggesting that one's DNA "makes one do" anything short of actions undertaken in utero, such as, you know, developing ten fingers and ten toes. Please, o clever one, explain to us all how DNA makes you do things. Please. I look forward greatly to this explanation.

Race is like specias of animals there are frogs in general but then there are many kinds of frogs that break up into diffenrent groups just like humans

Have you ever talked to a ultra otrhadox jew? becacse My JEWISH friend did and he said that the ULTRA othrodox jews should only marry Pure Jews with jewish or israeli blood.How do they do this i dont know go ask one

DNA creates your features and your charatrestics so if it creates a brain with the charateristics it is normaly going to preform like that.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 06:09
What did Madagascar ever do to deserve that? :p

Good point! Sorry to any Madagascarans (?) who might be reading this.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 06:10
My mistake then. I mean that compared to Germany Sweden has alot more "Aryan" blood. Out of all the Germainic countries, I believe it has the lowest amount of foreigners.
Wouldn't that be Iceland?

Im just trying to say that defining people by race nowadays doesnt work. Germany has somewhere like 9 million immigrants, they will have children with Germans, those children will have children with Russians and so on... A "German" is not someone with a better bloodline, but more along the lines of one who is patriotic about being/living as a German.
Isn't the very idea behind Nazism to forcefully extricate those who do not belong (supposedly) in Germany?
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:11
So what the hell did the Jews do to the German People? Oh yea. NOTHING!!!! All they were doing was living their lives in Germany, serving their country as best they could. Then Hitler comes along and uses propaganda to cause problems.

They were a convenient scape-goat. Due to various laws which forbade them from owning land and such, they were forced into "low-cast" jobs, so to speak, that held little honor or what-you might call it, such as money-changing. The true irony of this, however, is that they were able to stay far better off than others groups of people during times of depressions/drought(As there was always a demand for anything money related) due specifically to the laws that were suppost to hind hinder them . Funny thing is, this led to resentment of them over a few hundred years(And other reasons, as well), so they were not well-like to begin with.

After the global depression shortly following WWI, the only people doing at least somewhat decently in Germany were the Jews... who were only doing so well because of the old laws placed against them. This made them an easy target for Hitler.

More or less, anyway

I would make a joke right about how the irony of the situation kills, but that would be distasteful.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:11
New Cancer Eh?! you guys are just full of opions no facts just that you say nazis are bad becsaue they killed people etc. There are always reasons for everything. The Real Cancer is all the immagrants coming to our country and f***in it up. So more fights will just arise because it is all multi-kulti then the country will just fall apart slowly.

Yep yep. Someone bought propaganda.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:13
I believe Algebra has its origins in India.

Bah, I knew that one was off. I knew it was one of the two, but meh.


Gun powder was developed independently of China in Europe.

I do not disagree with your basic thesis - just with these specific facts.
This one, I did not know. Intriguing... very intriguing. I guess you learn something new every day(However, to my credit, I am rather certain it was developed in China first, no?)
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 06:13
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

While, to my chagrin, I have no influence on the policy of your country, and cannot stop you from being monumentally stupid and evil, I would not ever take that deal. The idiotic belief that nations can truly exist seperate and distinct from one another is foolish. The space between points on a map, or points on an internet, or points on an economy is too small, and the world is only getting smaller. You want to put your head in the sand? Fine, go live in the mountains. You're welcome to leave, we don't really want your kind, to be honest.
Vetalia
23-05-2007, 06:13
It's atrociously inefficient as an economic system, stifles technological and scientific progress, and has a habit of leading to war, oppression, and mass killing.

Soviet-style Communism is vastly superior to it, and that's saying a lot.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 06:14
Wouldn't that be Iceland?


Isn't the very idea behind Nazism to forcefully extricate those who do not belong (supposedly) in Germany?

Im not a Nazi. And I belive it is Iceland now that I think about. Thank you for the correction.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:15
Called propaganda and appeasement. When the allies finally got its act together, you were totally trashed, especially by the USSR.



And yet, the Nazi party was destroyed in WW II. Shows you how strong they were does it not? If you were stronger, you would not have lost.

Well the USA now is the strongest in the world but if the whole world will go against it will they win? No. and that is when the world was against us when the allies go their act together.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:15
Well the USA now is the strongest in the world but if the whole world will go against it will they win? No. and that is when the world was against us when the allies go their act together.

No, everyone is dead. It's called MAD. Look it up.
OuroborosCobra
23-05-2007, 06:16
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e. I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

One problem. The Jews living in Germany are, you guessed it, GERMANS. They are just as German as you.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:16
Italy did nothing to help in the war when we tell them to defend a back flank they surrender. and Japan was on the other side of the world and did nothing to reinforce german troops. Why do you people always try to push peoples appreances on a agrument when they get scared?

Because we are totally trashing you in this debate.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 06:17
This one, I did not know. Intriguing... very intriguing. I guess you learn something new every day(However, to my credit, I am rather certain it was developed in China first, no?)
I'm not entirely sure of this one though - it seems to be a matter of uncertainty whether gunpowder developed independently of China in Europe or not.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 06:17
Bah, I knew that one was off. I knew it was one of the two, but meh.


This one, I did not know. Intriguing... very intriguing. I guess you learn something new every day(However, to my credit, I am rather certain it was developed in China first, no?)

I think both the Chinese and the various Middle Easterners way back developed astronomy quite a bit. It's why so many stars have Arabic-origin names.

Can we agree that a lot of the world has contributed to our progress today? I think we can.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:17
Yep yep. Someone bought propaganda.

I can say the same thing to you. in the world we live in today it is so hard to distingush the truth from lies. So basiclly you cant belive anything.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:19
True but he changed the jewish ways.

Changed the Jewish ways? The Jews rejected Jesus.
Europa Maxima
23-05-2007, 06:19
Im not a Nazi. And I belive it is Iceland now that I think about. Thank you for the correction.
I'm aware. I doubt NPD views things your way though.
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 06:20
Why Do You Think Naziism Is Wrong Or Right? Post here and say your opinion about it and i will respond to what your point is.

Biggest reason? I happen to be very fond of Jews and Israel. The Nazis hate them both. I don't want to be put to death for converting to Judaism.
Other reasons? That Hitler thought that he and the Germans were descended from Zeus. Another? That Nazis tried to summon Demons from Hell to help them :rolleyes:. Another? They think that non-whites come from humans and apes inter-breeding.
Other reasons: Hitler's mustache looks dorky; I like to critize the goverment and still come home with my head attached.

Of course none of these reason directly address that Hitler put to death millions in extremely sick ways, not because they commited a crime, but because they were born of a different race then himself. I want a goverment that judges you by your actions.
NPD Deutschland
23-05-2007, 06:20
Changed the Jewish ways? The Jews rejected Jesus.

they rejected him but he had followers alot of them.
Kinda Sensible people
23-05-2007, 06:22
I can say the same thing to you. in the world we live in today it is so hard to distingush the truth from lies. So basiclly you cant belive anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good job, mini-Goebells. Go elsewhere, pretty but empty words are still pretty. You have yet to respond to a single one of my points regarding the idiocy and impossibility of the homogenuous country in the modern world.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 06:22
Race is like specias of animals there are frogs in general but then there are many kinds of frogs that break up into diffenrent groups just like humans

Um, no. Frogs are an order. Humans are a species. The genetic difference between one frog and another is analogous to the genetic difference between a human and a spider monkey. Also, did you even freaking read what I wrote? There. Are. No. Genotypically. Defined. Human. Races. It's a meaningless word in this context.

Have you ever talked to a ultra otrhadox jew? becacse My JEWISH friend did and he said that the ULTRA othrodox jews should only marry Pure Jews with jewish or israeli blood.How do they do this i dont know go ask one

...yes, I'm friends with many Orthodox Jews, in fact. Strangely enough, not all of them are as anti-conversion as your apocryphal "friend," and even if they were, it still wouldn't alter the fact that all Jews throughout history have manifestly not been a genetically uniform group. As previously mentioned, some specific groups of tightly-inbred Jews do display certain common genetic markers, the Ashkenazim being the best-known example thereof, but that was very specifically not what you were discussing, was it?

DNA creates your features and your charatrestics so if it creates a brain with the charateristics it is normaly going to preform like that.

I'm sorry, I asked for a mechanism by which genes could code for conscious behaviors. I want science here, not bland, nonsensical statements without a shred of evidence or fact to them.
Shakal
23-05-2007, 06:25
I'm aware. I doubt NPD views things your way though.

I must retire for the night. I need to amuse myself with Mr. Moby Dick.



Stupid boyfriend...can come over until end of June...Wont be able to eat me out...
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:26
How about this will you accept the idear that Germany is for the German people and that all the jews and stuff can go to israel or W/e.

No!

I will not say that we are completly Superior but there are the extremist that go and do that. So what is wrong with what the NPD thinks. All we say (basiclly) is tht our country is for our people.

It makes one a racist.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:27
Which obviously will not mean much to a Nazi - indeed, it'd be viewed as a positive trait.

Unfortunately, you are right!
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 06:30
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

You claim Germans are superior to Jews, yet you also worry about Jews renting to Germans. If the Germans were so great, why did the Jews own all the houses?
You may complain that Jews only help each other. I didn't exactly see the Nazis do any diffferent.
The yell the Jews should leave. To where? The Germans had a nation, the Jews did not.
Where do you get your facts about Jews being inferior? They have the highest I.Q. avarage in the world! If Hitler were friendly to Jews, he'd have the A-Bomb.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:30
*cough USA libertarian* this is not the USA m8. So you bring your self down in your melting pot.

He lives in the US and this is a British server. Hmmm. This is not Germany bucko.
Poliwanacraca
23-05-2007, 06:31
Madagascarans (?)

Malagasy, I believe.

This has been your random factoid of the day, helpfully brought to you by Poliwanacraca. The more you know!
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:32
No that is actually a good idear

No it was not a good idea then and it is not a good idea now :headbang:

let them live there and they can be happy multi-Kulti people or W/e

Anyone who is not a "mulit-kulti" are racists. So are you a racist?

or they can go to the USA and melt them selves in your pot.

We have jews here. I know several of them.
NERVUN
23-05-2007, 06:33
Race is like specias of animals there are frogs in general but then there are many kinds of frogs that break up into diffenrent groups just like humans
Buuu! Wrong, there is no seperate species in humanity. There's just one.

DNA creates your features and your charatrestics so if it creates a brain with the charateristics it is normaly going to preform like that.
Buuu! Wrong again, there is no differences in brain structure or function based on either race or sex. Sorry, your understanding of biology fails miserably.
Seangoli
23-05-2007, 06:34
Where do you get your facts about Jews being inferior? They have the highest I.Q. avarage in the world! If Hitler were friendly to Jews, he'd have the A-Bomb.

Eh, that's unlikely. The thing is, all of the key scientists needed for such a project(One of the most important being Enrico Fermi) were employed by the US. Much of those whom contributed were the only ones with much of the needed knowledge to create the bomb. Without this knowledge, the bomb would have been near impossible to create. Could they have eventually done it? Yes. However, I doubt that they were very close(Even though they were working on it) to begin with, and they probably wouldn't have been able to build it in the before the US even if they had been friendly to the jews.
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 06:35
Malagasy, I believe.

This has been your random factoid of the day, helpfully brought to you by Poliwanacraca. The more you know!

Damn, I was way off. Thanks!
Vetalia
23-05-2007, 06:35
Eh, that's unlikely. The thing is, all of the key scientists needed for such a project(One of the most important being Enrico Fermi) were employed by the US. Much of those whom contributed were the only ones with much of the needed knowledge to create the bomb. Without this knowledge, the bomb would have been near impossible to create. Could they have eventually done it? Yes. However, I doubt that they were very close(Even though they were working on it) to begin with, and they probably wouldn't have been able to build it in the before the US even if they had been friendly to the jews.

I think a lot of scientists would have still fled regardless. The Nazis were not particularly supportive of scientific research in any form.
Callisdrun
23-05-2007, 06:36
Skin type is included in their but you said hair texture and facial features meaning Blood and the DNA have to control these features as a race.

Blood has nothing to do with race. You are either type A, B, AB or O, negative or positive.

It appears that you're also in way over your head.

Okay, reasons why I think Nazism is wrong (note, I will probably miss many, many reasons, as they're almost limitless):

1. I like freedom of speech. I have the right to say anything I want about the government. Any restriction on this is a violation of my right.
2. I like freedom of the press. An independent, truthful press that is not afraid to challenge the government is in the best interests of everyone.
3. I like freedom of religion. That is, the government has no right to tell me what to believe in or to favor any religion over another.
4. I'm against the government and the industrial elite being one and the same. It's already bad enough in this country.
5. I am for a democratic system of government. If our politicians are fucking up, we should have the power to relieve them of their jobs. No one person should have absolute control over the country like he's playing house on a grand scale or something.
6. I am against the intrusion into the private lives of citizens. There's this thing called the right to privacy. Some of us think being able to fuck or take a shower without big brother watching is a nice idea.
7. I am against discrimination and persecution based on petty phenotypes that people call "race," as well as religion, gender, sexual orientation or political viewpoint.
8. I do not think my country is inherently better than everyone else's or that other countries are worthless.
9. I like peace. Nazis (and other Fascists as well) seem not to.
10. I like being alive.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:36
It's atrociously inefficient as an economic system, stifles technological and scientific progress, and has a habit of leading to war, oppression, and mass killing.

Soviet-style Communism is vastly superior to it, and that's saying a lot.

OUCH!!!
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 06:36
People dont kill people for no reason m8. If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? Because every where they go they try to change the culture and take the land from the orginal people.


No, I'll tell you Why the Jews are hated. Because they invented morality, or at least have the first recorded use of it. The Ten Commandments? Moses wrote those, according to him God did it through him. That's why. Christians, and Muslims, not just Jews, are his doing. Him.
Callisdrun
23-05-2007, 06:39
Eh, that's unlikely. The thing is, all of the key scientists needed for such a project(One of the most important being Enrico Fermi) were employed by the US. Much of those whom contributed were the only ones with much of the needed knowledge to create the bomb. Without this knowledge, the bomb would have been near impossible to create. Could they have eventually done it? Yes. However, I doubt that they were very close(Even though they were working on it) to begin with, and they probably wouldn't have been able to build it in the before the US even if they had been friendly to the jews.

They were close to making a dirty bomb. They actually, shortly before surrender, packed some supplies and plans for one onto a U-Boat and sent it to Japan, who in turn planned to use it on San Francisco. The submarine was captured, however.

Also, they had a lot of setbacks. It's hard to conduct experiments when your source of a key material keeps getting blown up by pesky resistance fighters.
Desia of the RIA
23-05-2007, 06:40
Nazism suckz,democratic socialism rocks!*end,roll credits*:sniper::upyours:
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 06:40
How would you know!? have you been there?! Nazis dont nessicarly go to hell most of them are Christians and devoted. My GrandFather on my Fathers side was SS and he was killing them yet he was a devoted Lutheran i highly doubt he would go to hell. That is just your opioin that nazis are evil people that go to hell. They were good to some people and bad to others it is all opion m8.

You moron. Guess what? Jesus was Jewish, and the SS would kill him for it.
Mirkana
23-05-2007, 06:42
Nazism calls for my death on the basis that I was born Jewish. Do I really need to argue my point any further? How can I ever agree with a philosophy that holds my need to die as a fundamental tenet?
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:43
Well the USA now is the strongest in the world but if the whole world will go against it will they win? No. and that is when the world was against us when the allies go their act together.

And when one looks at the break down of forces, It was primarily Britain, France, Russia, and the US fighting against the Germans. Only in 1943 can we add the italians to that list. Other nations joined late.

As to the nations that did join the war, many of them did not join till they were attacked. Others joined when the war was basicly over.

Were you alone? No you were not alone. You had nations that fought on your side. Problem is, most of them folded prior to May 1945. The only Axis nation to fight on longer was JAPAN and they caved on August 15, 1945, a full three months and 6 or 7 days longer. Also, the US was basically fighting alone in the Pacific. That ended Japanese superiority there.

And with your post about the US not winning, neither would the rest of the world either.
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:46
I can say the same thing to you.

Sorry but no you cannot. Unlike you, I have studied primary documents and read some of the laws enacted by the Nazi party. So tell me how is that buying into propaganda when I have looked at the history of the Nazi party?

in the world we live in today it is so hard to distingush the truth from lies. So basiclly you cant belive anything.

One can believe primary documents. Do you know what those are?
Notchestershire
23-05-2007, 06:47
"You claim Germans are superior to Jews"


Germans are people from Germany.
Judaism is a religion, almost identical to Christianity.
German is not a religion.
'Aryan' does not exist, as I'm green-eyed, blonde haired and from a Jewish family.

Therefore, your (the creator of this thread) comparison between Jews and Germans is an incorrect and impossible comparison, therefore proving you wrong.

Religion does not move someone to work for the media, make someone want to raise the rent, or make someone try to grub your money.

This is why ignoramuses like you shouldn't be permitted to procreate. You literally are not capable of possessing any form of logic whatsoever.
Hamilay
23-05-2007, 06:47
Hey, have we got a Nazi troll? I'm almost sorry I missed this.

Almost.

Not going to dignify this with a proper response. This clearly means lolcat.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/IWillEndYou.jpg
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:47
they rejected him but he had followers alot of them.

Yep. I am one of Jesus's followers.
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 06:48
Italy did nothing to help in the war when we tell them to defend a back flank they surrender. and Japan was on the other side of the world and did nothing to reinforce german troops. Why do you people always try to push peoples appreances on a agrument when they get scared?

*Snorts* Napoleon kicked the living **** outta the Prussians. I suppose that makes the French the "master race"....
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 06:51
Hey, have we got a Nazi troll? I'm almost sorry I missed this.

Almost.

Not going to dignify this with a proper response. This clearly means lolcat.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/IWillEndYou.jpg

OH SHI-
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:52
*Snorts* Napoleon kicked the living **** outta the Prussians. I suppose that makes the French the "master race"....

You forgot about the Franco Prussian war of 1878! Germany won that one.
Cabra West
23-05-2007, 06:56
:rolleyes:

Is there any way you can get more stereotypical than this OP? He's got it right down to the spelling mistakes and miserable English... I'm somehow suspecting a very skilled puppet master.

And I'm now seriously considering spending the 700 Euros to get Irish citizenship, if only to have one thing less in common with people like that. *hides in shame about her German passport*
Cabra West
23-05-2007, 06:57
You forgot about the Franco Prussian war of 1878! Germany won that one.

1870-1871 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War)
The Black Forrest
23-05-2007, 06:58
I believe Algebra has its origins in India.

Gun powder was developed independently of China in Europe.

I do not disagree with your basic thesis - just with these specific facts.

Correct Arab traders brought it back from India......
LancasterCounty
23-05-2007, 06:58
1870-1871 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War)

:headbang: stupid me!
Cabra West
23-05-2007, 07:00
:headbang: stupid me!

Not to worry. Just an old history lesson raising it's head in my memory ;)
Mirkana
23-05-2007, 07:00
Normally, I deal with trolls either by ignoring them, or by ripping their arguments to shreds for entertainment (see my sig for an example).

However, this guy is a Nazi. A person who follows a philosophy that literally calls for my extermination. A person who condones the murder of six million of my people.

The ancient Hebrews faced people like this - the Amalekites. And we are commanded to wipe them from the face of the Earth. And while I can't kill this guy (and wouldn't, for obvious reasons), I can settle for a war of words.

Not a flame war. I won't do that which is beneath my dignity. This will be a war fought with cold logic. Ice-cold logic. In fact, hold on while I get my canisters of liquid nitrogen.

So, NPD Deutschland, explain why it is that I deserve to die because I am a Jew?
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 07:01
You forgot about the Franco Prussian war of 1878! Germany won that one.

No, I did not. I was merely saying Napoleon actually did better then Hitler (and lasted 3 times as long). That doesn't mean the French are the "master race".
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 07:04
Normally, I deal with trolls either by ignoring them, or by ripping their arguments to shreds for entertainment (see my sig for an example).

However, this guy is a Nazi. A person who follows a philosophy that literally calls for my extermination. A person who condones the murder of six million of my people.

The ancient Hebrews faced people like this - the Amalekites. And we are commanded to wipe them from the face of the Earth. And while I can't kill this guy (and wouldn't, for obvious reasons), I can settle for a war of words.

Not a flame war. I won't do that which is beneath my dignity. This will be a war fought with cold logic. Ice-cold logic. In fact, hold on while I get my canisters of liquid nitrogen.

So, NPD Deutschland, explain why it is that I deserve to die because I am a Jew?

I think NPD is gone. I'm still wondering whether he's a troll or the real deal.
Mirkana
23-05-2007, 07:11
I think NPD is gone. I'm still wondering whether he's a troll or the real deal.

He has 24 hours to respond. After that, I will assume he's gone, and declare victory.

Perhaps my previous post scared him into retreat.
Hamilay
23-05-2007, 07:11
OH SHI-

Bah, I'm sure there was a pic for that, but I can't find it.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/media.jpg
Mirkana
23-05-2007, 07:13
Bah, I'm sure there was a pic for that, but I can't find it.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/media.jpg

TJIROTFL (the Jew is rolling on the floor laughing).
Scarlet Devil Mansion
23-05-2007, 07:19
He has 24 hours to respond. After that, I will assume he's gone, and declare victory.

Perhaps my previous post scared him into retreat.

If Nazis ever come to power anywhere again, we should make copies of that post and dump them from airplanes onto their armies, just in case.
Vetalia
23-05-2007, 07:21
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/shaddamIV/LOLWUT.png

This sums up the entire thread.
Hamilay
23-05-2007, 07:26
TJIROTFL (the Jew is rolling on the floor laughing).
Happy to help. :)
LOL WUT

This sums up the entire thread.

Truth.
Heretichia
23-05-2007, 07:45
My mistake then. I mean that compared to Germany Sweden has alot more "Aryan" blood. Out of all the Germainic countries, I believe it has the lowest amount of foreigners.

Im just trying to say that defining people by race nowadays doesnt work. Germany has somewhere like 9 million immigrants, they will have children with Germans, those children will have children with Russians and so on... A "German" is not someone with a better bloodline, but more along the lines of one who is patriotic about being/living as a German.

Sweden has massive immigration. Third in the world when it comes to immigrants per capita, which is really the only way to measure such a thing. Dunno if this site is biased in any way, just googeled it and found, but here. Linky (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_new_cit_percap-immigration-new-citizenships-per-capita)
Usizevl
23-05-2007, 08:18
.

hitler had jewish blood, hitler was impure
Newer Burmecia
23-05-2007, 08:27
This thread makes baby Jesus cry. :(
Soheran
23-05-2007, 08:40
I'm part of several of the groups marked by Nazism for extermination.

Not a big fan.
Free Soviets
23-05-2007, 08:57
I'm part of several of the groups marked by Nazism for extermination.

hey, do we know of any disabled gay polish jewish communist gypsies?
Proggresica
23-05-2007, 09:30
NPD Deutschland... Question:how old are you?
Proggresica
23-05-2007, 09:31
DNA creates your features and your charatrestics so if it creates a brain with the charateristics it is normaly going to preform like that.

That is not how it works. Please ring up your local university and ask to speak to a lecturer about the issue... A competent lecturer.
Seathornia
23-05-2007, 09:38
:rolleyes:

Is there any way you can get more stereotypical than this OP? He's got it right down to the spelling mistakes and miserable English... I'm somehow suspecting a very skilled puppet master.

And I'm now seriously considering spending the 700 Euros to get Irish citizenship, if only to have one thing less in common with people like that. *hides in shame about her German passport*

No no, we need you to vote in Germany, to avoid this exact sort of thing.
Rubiconic Crossings
23-05-2007, 09:49
Normally, I deal with trolls either by ignoring them, or by ripping their arguments to shreds for entertainment (see my sig for an example).

However, this guy is a Nazi. A person who follows a philosophy that literally calls for my extermination. A person who condones the murder of six million of my people.

The ancient Hebrews faced people like this - the Amalekites. And we are commanded to wipe them from the face of the Earth. And while I can't kill this guy (and wouldn't, for obvious reasons), I can settle for a war of words.

Not a flame war. I won't do that which is beneath my dignity. This will be a war fought with cold logic. Ice-cold logic. In fact, hold on while I get my canisters of liquid nitrogen.

So, NPD Deutschland, explain why it is that I deserve to die because I am a Jew?

Please remember that it was not only the Jews they wanted to exterminate. Gays, anarchists, communists, the disabled, the Roma etc etc.
Cameroi
23-05-2007, 09:51
well, my belief is that all nearly all prejudice, and certainly the basing of idiologies and ways of life on it, is itself intrinsicly evil.

but what the hell is "Nazilism"? is this an idiology that origenates in the sinus cavities?

lmao thinking about THAT one ...

=^^=
.../\...
Hamilay
23-05-2007, 09:53
well, my belief is that all nearly all prejudice, and certainly the basing of idiologies and ways of life on it, is itself intrinsicly evil.

but what the hell is "Nazilism"? is this an idiology that origenates in the sinus cavities?

lmao thinking about THAT one ...

=^^=
.../\...
Hmm, that actually would be an accurate description of Nazism.
Barristonia
23-05-2007, 09:55
...they also ruin the German blood line....
How quaint.
Siylva
23-05-2007, 10:07
I just read this entire thread, and all I can think is, well done everyone.;)

You firmly crushed NPD Deutschland's racist & weak arguements. Anytime you defeat Ultra-right or Ultra-left wing idealogies, you've done good.
The Parkus Empire
23-05-2007, 10:20
I just read this entire thread, and all I can think is, well done everyone.;)

You firmly crushed NPD Deutschland's racist & weak arguements. Anytime you defeat Ultra-right or Ultra-left wing idealogies, you've done good.

It's not that hard really. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/sarge/Drooling_anim.gif
Free Soviets
23-05-2007, 10:26
You firmly crushed NPD Deutschland's racist & weak arguements. Anytime you defeat Ultra-right or Ultra-left wing idealogies, you've done good.

but bear in mind that fascists ain't much for logic and reasoned debate. it's actually listed among the big weaknesses and failings of modern society to be overthrown in the fascist revolution. ultimately, the only way to stop nazis is to make fun of them mercilessly, and whenever they organize in numbers, chase them back under the rocks they came from.
Ifreann
23-05-2007, 10:55
but bear in mind that fascists ain't much for logic and reasoned debate. it's actually listed among the big weaknesses and failings of modern society to be overthrown in the fascist revolution. ultimately, the only way to stop nazis is to make fun of them mercilessly, and whenever they organize in numbers, chase them back under the rocks they came from.

Sounds like fun. :D
Ginnoria
23-05-2007, 10:59
I'm Italian. My ancestors did their part to stop Nazi Germany.

Actually, I believe they emmigrated a century before WW2, but let's not spill hairs.
Kyronea
23-05-2007, 11:23
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e267/Flaw3dLegacy/media.jpg

This is why Jews are fun: they have a great sense of humour.

In any case, since NDP's arguments were so thoroughly crushed, I hereby pronounce the death of this thread through...

LAVOS!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1109/thedayoflavosbytreijimdn9.jpg
Skinny87
23-05-2007, 12:36
Wow...a real, live Nazi.

Can I keep him? Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease? [/absurd]

But anyway, to the point. Nazism as an ideology is not only hugely flawed, but is terrible and disgusting. The huge breach of rights, the vast oppression, the persecution of anyone that doesn't fit into an inane and hugely flawed, not to mention faux-scientific, ideal makes Nazism a terrible and awful system.

And, of course, the Holocaust and the deaths of 11 million people, well...Crimes Against Humanity doesn't seem sufficent to cover such atrocities.
Kyronea
23-05-2007, 12:49
*snip sensible stuff unfortunately already posted several times*

No, you fool! Lavos was the end of the thread! End of the thread! You are NOT pulling a Chrono Trigger on me!
Skinny87
23-05-2007, 12:55
They were close to making a dirty bomb. They actually, shortly before surrender, packed some supplies and plans for one onto a U-Boat and sent it to Japan, who in turn planned to use it on San Francisco. The submarine was captured, however.

Also, they had a lot of setbacks. It's hard to conduct experiments when your source of a key material keeps getting blown up by pesky resistance fighters.

I don't think that's true. According to the latest research (John Cornwell's 'Hitler's Scientists') the Nazi nuclear weapons program never developed further than designing the casing for a weaon. They had very little material for such a weapon, few decent scientists and a lead scientist who (debatably) sabotaged the project itself.

Certainly I don't think the Nazis shipped an actual weapon to Japan. Some materials, perhaps, but nothing near an actual weapon.
Andaluciae
23-05-2007, 13:01
3.) no one wanted the jews we tried to give them away but no one took them. What do we do then if we dont want them in our society because they do many things like they put the rent really high on the apartments so the real germans have a worse place to live , they also ruin the German blood line and many other reasons.

No, the reason why other countries wouldn't accept Jewish refugees was because the entire world was in the midst of a total economic recession, and they couldn't afford to take on any wards of the state from abroad :rolleyes:
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 13:03
They resented the Jews and wanted them to feel pain due to the fact that they had better living standards in Germany while Germans lived there lived in poverty on their own land. They felt the same way towards Jews as yanks do to Mexicans.La Migra is coming !! :p
Rambhutan
23-05-2007, 13:04
Are we sure the OP isn't another Potato Factory cry for attention?
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 13:09
because it helps the stronger races in the future. because if you have the weaker races mixing with the stronger races then the stronger races get mixed and then Humans become weaker every generation. So if something bad happens more people will die.I am 100% against your line of though.
But lets assume for a second I wanted to pick the strongest race.. for a multi-billion dollar space travel adventure..

One of the ways would be the Olympics

http://www.beijen.net/frank/arti/2002/owens-j.jpg
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 13:11
Are we sure the OP isn't another Potato Factory cry for attention?If he is.. he can say "mission acomplished" by the 10th page.

-for the record I avoided this silliness until the 17 page-
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 13:27
If they are such good people why do they get killed everywhere they go? That is BULLSHIT, Over here the Jews are fine, their average income is higher than all the others, They own many corporations and No-one tries to kill them just because they are Land-lords.
.

Because every where they go they try to change the culture That is BULLSHIT, the Jew families change their names to local names.. they want to blend.. or they want to be Low profile. (either way they do not want to change the Culture)
.

.. and take the land from the orginal people.Its called capitalism, get over it. If you want affordable housing, go live in the Barrios.
Hamilay
23-05-2007, 13:30
That is BULLSHIT,Over here the Jews are fine, their average income is higher than all the others, They own many corporations and No-one tries to kill them just becauase they are Land-lords.
.

That is BULLSHIT, the Jew families change their names to local names.. they want to blend.
.

Its called capitalism, get over it. If
you want affordable housing, go live in the Barrios.
Didn't you hear Kyronea? Thread over.

And, um, I'm not Jewish. Does that make me racist? :(
Neo Myidealstate
23-05-2007, 13:32
They got 7.3% of the votes in 2006 somehow, and they got representation in the parliament.

No they don't. They only managed to get 7.3 % in the state parliament of the east German state Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Most probably due to lacking democratic binding and a certain disenchantment with democracy there.
Fortunatly the only thing they did there is peculating funds, what seems to be the only thing the extreme right parties are usually do when the are voted into a state parliament.

The NPD has recieved almost no votes in any election for the Federal parliament and most probalbly will never do. It has thus no Federal representation and its power is very limited at best.
OcceanDrive
23-05-2007, 13:35
Does that make me racist? if you beleive some races are superior to other, Yes.. that makes you a racist.
.

Didn't you hear Kyronea? Thread over. Do I care about what Kyronea says?