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Yup, this Saturday it's the festival of camp that is Eurovision. After Lordi's spectacular win last year, this year's contest is being held in Helsinki. I've already found my favourites - Ukraine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnV7Nydf9L4) and Israel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_h_rLKTLvs) (check the trip-hop Hebrew rap halfway through the Israeli entry). Please note that these are just my favourites to win, not actually what I think are good songs. I mean, if they were, they'd stand fuck all chance of winning.

Anyway. Who do you want to/think will win? How will Britain do? In case you need reminding, this travesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kNoAddyUMQ) is our entry this year. :rolleyes: I love the British public sometimes...

Yeah, there'll be a poll. It might even be relevant to the thread...

Ukraine??? When did that happen?

I've not seen Eurovision since like forever.

And yeah....the English one I had the misfortune to watch...craptacular!

It's delaying Doctor Who for a week.... I'm so annoyed!

I feel so ashamed to be British right now. Seriously? We could have had Morrissey if I remember correctly.

Andorra! I do not know their song, but Andorra had great songs the last 2 times!

Israel is in Europe?

Israel is in Europe?

Apparently so.

You know, even though Europe has all of the best metal, it seems every year Eurovision is a chance to show the world how shitty the collective musical taste of Europe really is.

You know, even though Europe has all of the best metal, it seems every year Eurovision is a chance to show the world how shitty the collective musical taste of Europe really is.

Truer words....

You know, even though Europe has all of the best metal, it seems every year Eurovision is a chance to show the world how shitty the collective musical taste of Europe really is.
Yeah...I really do think that the Scandinavian countries should just enter their black metal bands. Certainly would be the most memorable Eurovision ever.

Yeah...I really do think that the Scandinavian countries should just enter their black metal bands. Certainly would be the most memorable Eurovision ever.

What's the worst thing that could happen? At worst, all the other acts get eaten by the Norwegian entery, and Eurovision gets canceled. I'd give them a Nobel Prize for that.

UK lot better off just staying at home

You've all gotten it wrong. This isn't a music contest, it's a contest about which country has the most and the most loyal neighbours.

Israel is in Europe?

We go through this in every bloody Eurovision thread. :rolleyes:

Here is a simple recap: the Eurovision Song Contest is open to members of the EBU/UER (European Broadcasting Union/Union Européenne de Radio-Télévision). Israel is a member, hence it gets to compete. Morocco has competed in the past. Armenia and Georgia are competing this year. So get over Israel already!

Anyway, one need only take a look at my signature to hear my favourite (http://media.putfile.com/Molitva) this year.

UK lot better off just staying at home

Where's the fun in that? I love Eurovision for its crappier entries.

Yeah...I really do think that the Scandinavian countries should just enter their black metal bands. Certainly would be the most memorable Eurovision ever.

They came close with Lordi.

Anyway. Who do you want to/think will win? How will Britain do? In case you need reminding, this travesty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kNoAddyUMQ) is our entry this year. :rolleyes: I love the British public sometimes...


They want to get more than zero. Eurovision is part political voting, part piss-take; don't take it seriously as a competition, just sit back and enjoy the parody.

I think I just died a little with that YouTube link. I really think I did.

*cringe* I will not be watching Eurovision. I have not for several years, and plan never to again. Ugh.

You've all gotten it wrong. This isn't a music contest, it's a contest about which country has the most and the most loyal neighbours.
Yep. I just love the political voting. I don't watch it for the music, though, I like watching Wogan's droll remarks.

Last year, the British entry was good...

Ukraine??? When did that happen?

I've not seen Eurovision since like forever.

And yeah....the English one I had the misfortune to watch...craptacular!

It had to be better than American Idol... :rolleyes:

I've not been paying enough attention... I think that maybe it's being shown over here in Aus... but, will I have to stay up all fecking night, like with the cricket? Ach!

People taking Eurovision seriously, and criticising the standards and taste they associate with it, eh, it's like people still mocking Bjork's swan dress. It's Bjork, it's supposed to look like a fecking swan, and it does! It's Eurovision... it's supposed to be a big stupid European panto, and it is!

Imma get drunk and force Aussies to watch it. That'll make the bastards like me.

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They came close with Lordi.

Lordi kicked ass. Best thing ever to happen in Eurovision.

On the subject of the British entry...

1) Did I miss something - Are British Airways the sponsor, or something?

2) Are we going for the 'camp' vote? Seriously... "Would you like something to suck on for landing, Sir?" Did Graham Norton write it?

Yep. I just love the political voting. I don't watch it for the music, though, I like watching Wogan's droll remarks.

The big question this year is, who will get 12 points from Cyprus?

For anyone who wants to check out all the entrants before the show itself, the BBC have this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/eurovision/2007/contestants/) site with a video for each country's song.

For anyone who wants to check out all the entrants before the show itself, the BBC have this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/eurovision/2007/contestants/) site with a video for each country's song.

The Bulgarian entry is actually really good. Which means it stands no chance, unfortunately.

Moskau, Moskau
Wirf die Gläser an die Wand
Russland ist ein schönes Land
Ho ho ho ho ho, hey
Moskau, Moskau
Deine Seele ist so groß
Nachts da ist der Teufel los
Ha ha ha ha ha, hey
Moskau, Moskau
Liebe schmeckt wie Kaviar
Mädchen sind zum küssen da
Ho ho ho ho ho, hey
Moskau, Moskau
Komm wir tanzen auf dem Tisch
Bis der Tisch zusammenbricht
Ha ha ha ha ha

It doesn't get any better than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3lPGcvtpE) :)

I've not been paying enough attention... I think that maybe it's being shown over here in Aus... but, will I have to stay up all fecking night, like with the cricket? Ach!

People taking Eurovision seriously, and criticising the standards and taste they associate with it, eh, it's like people still mocking Bjork's swan dress. It's Bjork, it's supposed to look like a fecking swan, and it does! It's Eurovision... it's supposed to be a big stupid European panto, and it is!

Imma get drunk and force Aussies to watch it. That'll make the bastards like me.

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I'd watch it if most of the entries this year don't suck.

Speaking of sucking *looks at Beddgelert's location*

We go through this in every bloody Eurovision thread. :rolleyes:

Here is a simple recap: the Eurovision Song Contest is open to members of the EBU/UER (European Broadcasting Union/Union Européenne de Radio-Télévision). Israel is a member, hence it gets to compete. Morocco has competed in the past. Armenia and Georgia are competing this year. So get over Israel already!

Anyway, one need only take a look at my signature to hear my favourite (http://media.putfile.com/Molitva) this year.


I like how no one bothers to mention cyprus or turkey....

These guys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9qrO92xDpA) should have won last year.

These guys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9qrO92xDpA) should have won last year.

yes, or her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL0qd92Bh78&mode=related&search=)


and these guys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7hiaq0aWU) the year before :cool:

Why do good bands not usually enter?

Why do good bands not usually enter?

because crap bands get more votes :(

You know i reckon Scooch are qute good. Very Eurovisioniy. The song they sing is the sorta of dodgey, cheesy music most of Europe like.

Oh and another thing, you see that gay looking bloke in the band. Did anyone notice how he says "Would you like some salted NUTS :D

I shall be avoiding the television and radio this Saturday. Much as I like them, neither Ken Bruce nor Terry Wogan can tempt me to subject myself to such torture.

Poland's song makes me ashamed to be Polish. Why can't my country ever be represented by a good song?

They came close with Lordi.

Wait... Finland is a Scandinavian country?

Wait... Finland is a Scandinavian country?

Culturally, no. Geographically, yes, Finland is part of the Scandinavian Peninsula.

So I take it Eurovision is like American Idol but with even less talent?

Culturally, no. Geographically, yes, Finland is part of the Scandinavian Peninsula.

No, it's not. the Scandinavian peninsula is Norway and Sweden.

So I take it Eurovision is like American Idol but with even less talent?

and political voting. ugh!

Why do good bands not usually enter?
Career suicide. It can be good for bands to launch a career (think ABBA) or to revive a career (Katrina & the Waves), but for a 'good' band they'd lose pretty much any credibility they had.

So I take it Eurovision is like American Idol but with even less talent?
I'd say Pop Idol was like American Idol...;)

Similar, though, yes. And, yes, with even less talent.

To all brits...

Be glad we got what we got. The other contender was a friggin' power-ballad.

My dad and I were laying bets on which chorus we'd get her voice going all shaky in and neither of us got it right (first I think, that's gotta be some kind of record).

At least this one gets in the spirit of things.

o wow i misunderstod this Eurovision, all i had heard of it was Lordi(wich is at ozzfest and a pretty crappy band) but if Lordi was there i thought it was somthing along the lines of ozzfest, but man im wrong. So if you would all retract my vote saying the Eurovision is good music i would be very happy.

Career suicide. It can be good for bands to launch a career (think ABBA) or to revive a career (Katrina & the Waves), but for a 'good' band they'd lose pretty much any credibility they had..Oh, I see. Seems to me that a band could do a massive prank with that type of thing.

I went to see Lordi in October. Funniest gg ever.

MORE METAL IN EUROVISION!

There are a few songs I liked this year. I can't recall which countries they were from, but I remember liking them when I heard them.

o wow i misunderstod this Eurovision, all i had heard of it was Lordi(wich is at ozzfest and a pretty crappy band) but if Lordi was there i thought it was somthing along the lines of ozzfest, but man im wrong. So if you would all retract my vote saying the Eurovision is good music i would be very happy.

Once avote is cast i an NSG Poll, it can never be retracted. It just stays there, screwing the poll up.

Something to keep an eye on if you watch the eurovision: how much of the contest will be in English. My German teacher mentioned that more and more countries are giving their points in english and just having the songs in english.

Something to keep an eye on if you watch the eurovision: how much of the contest will be in English. My German teacher mentioned that more and more countries are giving their points in english and just having the songs in english.

It's only natural. Songs that are in English just have a generally higher chance of winning. When was the last time you heard a non-English song win?

It's only natural. Songs that are in English just have a generally higher chance of winning. When was the last time you heard a non-English song win?

The only winner I know of is Lordi. I have a terrible memory.

Go see the greek entry, its not too bad!

The only winner I know of is Lordi. I have a terrible memory.

The last non-English song to win was Fångad av en stormvind by Carola in 1991. Having an English song has become even more important now that the votes are by the public rather than jury.

Why do good bands not usually enter?For the same reason you wont find a nobel prize winner participating in an elementary school spelling contest?

It's kinda... "Holy shit. We sell a hundred thousand CDs per album. Each concert we give, we play in front of several thousand people. We were at Wacken Open Air. We generally play a flat two hours and get the crowds crazy. Yeah, we could totally associate with a bunch of poppers, choose the one three-minute song we have *, and do a three-minute gig. That's totally worth it.

"Erm, except not. Fuck that shit."

* Due to the number of participants, Eurovision doesn't allow songs longer than three minutes. Similarly, the time table is too narrow to allow for big decorations or whatever - imagine Rammstein without the fire, if you will.

This time Lordi won't be there for me to vote them for shits and giggles. Yeah, they're pretty crappy, nevertheless, it was so goddamned fun to see a costumed band whose songs sound like a metal version of the opening from "Denver: the Last Dinosaur" pwn the contest.

For the same reason you wont find a nobel prize winner participating in an elementary school spelling contest?

It's kinda... "Holy shit. We sell a hundred thousand CDs per album. Each concert we give, we play in front of several thousand people. We were at Wacken Open Air. We generally play a flat two hours and get the crowds crazy. Yeah, we could totally associate with a bunch of poppers, choose the one three-minute song we have *, and do a three-minute gig. That's totally worth it.

"Erm, except not. Fuck that shit."

* Due to the number of participants, Eurovision doesn't allow songs longer than three minutes. Similarly, the time table is too narrow to allow for big decorations or whatever - imagine Rammstein without the fire, if you will.

A Rammstein song at eurovision would rock.

You know, even though Europe has all of the best metal, it seems every year Eurovision is a chance to show the world how shitty the collective musical taste of Europe really is.

Hey, us Ukians are just the radical outliers in the crappy musical taste of the rest of europe! Don't bundle us in with them.

Finals are about to start...

So I take it Eurovision is like American Idol but with even less talent?
Nah, they always have amazing songs, IMHO. but yeah, with political voting.

We go through this in every bloody Eurovision thread. :rolleyes:

Here is a simple recap: the Eurovision Song Contest is open to members of the EBU/UER (European Broadcasting Union/Union Européenne de Radio-Télévision). Israel is a member, hence it gets to compete. Morocco has competed in the past. Armenia and Georgia are competing this year. So get over Israel already!
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Ohhh, I thought we did it to punish them when we couldn't get sanctions through the UN.

We have Scooch. Why oh why do we not just get the Chuckle Brothers to do a song?:D

AND THEY'RE OFF!!!

*Flees from the drunken finns in scary costumes*

anyone watching eurovision?

good its bad this year....

I didn't know the US was allowe- oh that's Hungary. Could have fooled me.

They were all dire, so about par for the course.

I didn't know the US was allowe- oh that's Hungary. Could have fooled me.

Hey, I thought that was just about the best one of the bunch!

And I actually think it's not as awful as the last couple years altogether. Please note that "not as awful" is still really, really bad.

And OMG did Great Britain ever suck. >.<

lordi's song at the end ain't bad. And a guy swallos a florescent tube. its a good song

I caught a few minutes of spain. Meh sums it up nicely.

Hey, I thought that was just about the best one of the bunch!

And I actually think it's not as awful as the last couple years altogether. Please note that "not as awful" is still really, really bad.

And OMG did Great Britain ever suck. >.<

& blow at the same time. I was impressed.

All i can say is lucky britain automatically qualified for the finals.

Ukraine?

WTF??!!

I caught a few minutes of spain. Meh sums it up nicely.Don't remember Spain.

Remind me, why we are watching this thing every year?

Don't remember Spain.

Remind me, why we are watching this thing every year?

alcohol and boredom? and still better than MTV, pop idol, etc...

Ukraine?

WTF??!!Loved it. :p

Ukraine?

WTF??!!

now that was entertaining!

Don't remember Spain.

Remind me, why we are watching this thing every year?
Nationalism?
I don't know, I'm American and just watching some internet feed. APOCALYPTICA is playing right now, but I don't know if its live or not.

Don't remember Spain.

Remind me, why we are watching this thing every year?

Just to listen to big Tel take the piss........

Loved it. :p

Somehow I thought you might.........

that finnish bimbo is really getting on my nerves....

Also respect to lordi. did'nt like their song last year. But that song they played this year was pretty good

Remind me, why we are watching this thing every year?
Because it's FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABULOUS! :D

And we're suckers for punishment...
Nationalism?
I don't know, I'm American and just watching some internet feed. APOCALYPTICA is playing right now, but I don't know if its live or not.
It was indeed.

So whos going for what?

I liked the German entry, my Russian g/friend liked the Bulgarian entry

So whos going for what?

I liked the German entry, my Russian g/friend liked the Bulgarian entry

i'm just going to shout at the screen.

Also respect to lordi. did'nt like their song last year. But that song they played this year was pretty good

It was the same song. Unless you're talking about the song at the end of the show, that was Apocalyptica, not Lordi.

The swedish entry scared me! :eek:



though that wasn't the only one >.<

Hmm, interesting how many votes Serbia got from Montenegro...

And listen to that booing from the Eastern bloc about russia!

When did Lordi play? I saw Apocalyptica, no Lordi.

Go Ukraine!

Or whoever did the daft french act? (not the actual french one).

And does anyone else think macedonian group looked like a Funeral For A Friend album cover? (actyually the lead reminded me of Fallout Boy but hey :p)

montenegro gave 12 points to serbia.
belarus gave 12 points to russia.
armenia gave 12 points to russia

block voting anyone?

When did Lordi play? I saw Apocalyptica, no Lordi.

Go Ukraine!

Or whoever did the daft french act? (not the actual french one).

And does anyone else think macedonian group looked like a Funeral For A Friend album cover? (actyually the lead reminded me of Fallout Boy but hey :p)

woops. my mistake

montenegro gave 12 points to serbia.
belarus gave 12 points to russia.
armenia gave 12 points to russia

block voting anyone?

Are we surprised?

Not even a little.

Sorry, it's the Serbians, not the Macedoonians.

montenegro gave 12 points to serbia.
belarus gave 12 points to russia.
armenia gave 12 points to russia

block voting anyone?

Denmark 12 pts to Sweden ;)

The way things are going, we're(UK) arn't going to get any points!

Are we surprised?

Not even a little.

bit more blatant than usual.

The UK and Ireland better hope they vote for each other if not.... 0 poin.


also anyone want to bet eurovision 2008 is NOT going to be held in eastern europe next year?

EDIT: ireland got a point.

y-omini nil poi!

oh dear...they really dont like us do they!!

I kind of liked Latvia; why do they have no points? I didn't see all of their performance, I guess that's why.

Denmark 12 pts to Sweden ;)

I liked andorras votes. Me thinks border checks are going to get a bit tougher for them;)

and all the countries will sizable turkish minorities seem to be 8 to 12 points to, you guess it turkey.

bit more blatant than usual.

The UK and Ireland better hope they vote for each other if not.... 0 poin.


also anyone want to bet eurovision 2008 is NOT going to be held in eastern europe next year?

The UK will probably give us 12 points, and we might give them 4 or 5. It always goes like that.

Somehow I thought you might.........Are you commending my good taste and infallible judgement? :p

I liked the German entry:)

y-omini nil poi!Heh, that actually cracked me up. :p

Well, the y-omini did SUUUUUUCK, so what did you expect?

Oh boy, I thought Ireland was really pretty bad. That woman so couldn't sing, and you guys really have better folksy music...

What was our entry anyway?

Oh god no, the Eurovision is destabilising the space-time contiuum! Full power to the deflector!

The UK will probably give us 12 points, and we might give them 4 or 5. It always goes like that.Oh boy, I thought Ireland was really pretty bad. That woman so couldn't sing, and you guys really have better folksy music...

Cyprus give 12 to Greece; crowd boos.

What was our entry anyway?

Oh god no, the Eurovision is destabilising the space-time contiuum! Full power to the deflector!

CAPTAIN THE ENGINE! SHE CANNA TAKE NO MORRRRRE!!!!!

Aaaaaand Serbia is pulling away from the pack as they start down the last leg of the race...

Cyprus give 12 to Greece; crowd boos.

bosnia 12 to serbia.



were they not in a war recently. Come on balkland nations a bit on animosity!!

CAPTAIN THE ENGINE! SHE CANNA TAKE NO MORRRRRE!!!!!

terry wogans employing the cloaking shields...its ok ;)

CAPTAIN THE ENGINE! SHE CANNA TAKE NO MORRRRRE!!!!!

Get those hamsters running faster Mr. Scott!

Yay, we've got no votes at all!


I mean, Romania/Moldova, Greece/Cyprus, Montenegro/Ukraine....

Get those hamsters running faster Mr. Scott!
You guys'll vote for us, right?;)

Get those hamsters running faster Mr. Scott!

AYE HEARD THE CAPTAIN. LEMMY WINKS GET A MOVE ON!

Even Terry wogan is saying this is taking the piss....

come on UK!!

*waves flag*

norway gives sweden 12 points i bet

come on UK!!

*waves flag*
*Glares at the Balkan voting club*

You guys'll vote for us, right?;)

Well, I won't.

:eek: wow i was right

norway gives sweden 12 points i bet
You don't say...

Denmark 12 pts to Sweden ;)

Norway 12 pts to Sweden. :D

Well, I won't.
:(

this is just a european mainland arse kissing competition :(

You don't say...

i post that before they announced the result. I must be psychic....:rolleyes:

What was our entry anyway?Oh, you know, that one woman who totally couldn't sing performing that not-very-good folksy song. :)

You guys'll vote for us, right?;)I think not even German's taste in music is bad enough to vote for you. That's bad. :p

Hey! Lithuania has only 3 points?!?! I happened to like that song! Bah!

But meh, at least the Serbian chick who's in the lead had the best voice by far. Go Serbia. :p

Come On Ukraine.

The Guys Got A Star On His Head!

A Fucking Shiny Star!!!

i post that before they announced the result. I must be psychic....:rolleyes:
Or you've been listening to Terry Wogan.

Oh, you know, that one woman who totally couldn't sing performing that not-very-good folksy song. :)

Oh yeah. Her. Sure I know her well.


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I think not even German's taste in music is bad enough to vote for you. That's bad. :p
I don't blame them. What we had was really, really awful.

Ireland 7 points!!

lousy bastards!

Or you've been listening to Terry Wogan.

nope beat him to it.
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just

thank you ireland 7 points to uk

Finally! You can always rely on the Irish...

Yay! We love you, Ireland!

nope beat him to it.
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just

thank you ireland 7 points to uk

You're welcome.

Aaaw, UK got points! They deserved going nil tonight...

Way To Go Malta!

And to think you guys had the wonderful Johnny Logan once...

Hey, Ireland broke GB's bad luck!

MALTA GAVE 12 points!


EDIT: damnit ifrean give those deflectors up!

Oh yeah. Her. Sure I know her well.


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And to think you guys had the wonderful Johnny Logan once...

Hey, Ireland broke GB's bad luck!

I *knew* that the Maltese would vote for us!

Whoa, Malta gives 12 to the UK?

Aaaw, UK got points! They deserved going nil tonight...

GO MALTA!! :D

Thank god for the Irish!

*waves subdued union flag*

And Malta... tsk!

And Malta. That George Cross was worth it!!

Aaaw, UK got points! They deserved going nil tonight...
Well, that one blonde Stewardess had really nice boobs. *nods*

Well, that one blonde Stewardess had really nice boobs. *nods*

True I s'ppose...

Eastern Europe is kicking ass and taking names tonight. Irland and the UK is down for the count... As is France...

Sweden gives Finland 12 pts. Surprise! ;)

Well, that one blonde Stewardess had really nice boobs. *nods*

There's boobs on the eurovision?


I knew I should have watched it.

Did that Latvian correspondent just say "Now, let's go to the thing"? :p

Did that Latvian correspondent just say "Now, let's go to the thing"? :p


really good representation of moldova in the background...has it even got skyscrapers? haha!

There's boobs on the eurovision?


I knew I should have watched it.Should've watched last year when it was thisclose to there being crotch shots on the eurovision. ;)

Now, who did we vote for?

The british belly dancers! Turkey must be grateful for Terry for that piece of Trivia.

Should've watched last year when it was thisclose to there being crotch shots on the eurovision. ;)

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oooooh, burn! No votes from GB to ireland...

well serbia won

im ecstatic...no I really am...no really...

IT'S OFFICIAL!!

SERBIA has won!!

im ecstatic...no I really am...no really...

i'd hate to be last......

IT'S OFFICIAL!!

SERBIA has won!!
The Balkan Vote Cartel prevails.

Ireland was bad, but it was nowhere near as bad as GB. *files protest*

Ireland was bad, but it was nowhere near as bad as GB. *files protest*
You're right, you know.

The Balkan block vote prevails

i'd hate to be last......

coming last in the eurovision is like telling you you're half decent haha!

coming last in the eurovision is like telling you you're half decent haha!

Your not norwegian are you?

Ireland was bad, but it was nowhere near as bad as GB. *files protest*

That's always a consolation.

Well that is the first time I have watched in about 10 years, under duress from the g/friend, and now I remember why I stopped.:rolleyes: Pub time now

Your not norwegian are you?

nerdy gerdy merdy herdy

(thats norwegian for no)

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It's the truth. (http://www.yourovision.net/song.php?year=2006&song=20) *nods*

What the Hell is Santa doing there??? :S

What the Hell is Santa doing there??? :S

its not grenwich mean time over there...its still christmas :D

So, does everyone hate us? Or did our song just suck ass?

So, does everyone hate us? Or did our song just suck ass?

stoppit...suck ass?? no american slang quadrophenia boy...we were just not of the standard required for such a prestigious event ;)

So, does everyone hate us? Or did our song just suck ass?

The song was rubbish, but I think people are starting to like us a tad more, memories of the face-off over Iraq lessening.

And the UK didn't come last, that's incredible.

BEST NORWEGIAN ENTRY EVER! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTbibIHjo9I&mode=related&search=)

The latter.

well sod this. i'm going to watch sin eater

This winning song is actually almost tolerable. Too bad the singer looks like an overweight emo guy.

Still, it's nothing compared to Russia's song. I would have wanted them to do better, especially since I took the time to actually vote for them.

It's the truth. (http://www.yourovision.net/song.php?year=2006&song=20) *nods*

*wonders if understanding the lyrics would make the song suck any less*


Though perhaps I am some musical ignoramous. Anything is possible. :D

So, does everyone hate us? Or did our song just suck ass?Buh? Nobody hates the British. But your song did more than just suck ass. Whatever that would be.

The song was rubbish, but I think people are starting to like us a tad more, memories of the face-off over Iraq lessening.At least here in Germany Iraw did actually never rub off on perceptions of the UK like it did on the US. Except on Blair, of course. :p

And the UK didn't come last, that's incredible.Indeed.

It's delaying Doctor Who for a week.... I'm so annoyed!

Aren't we all?
I detest the Eurovision Song Contest at the best of times...

Buh? Nobody hates the British.

Apart from germany and france...oh yeah...and anyone else we colonised :D

stoppit...suck ass?? no american slang quadrophenia boy

I say wot i want ere son! *rides off on a big shiny scooter*

This winning song is actually almost tolerable. Too bad the singer looks like an overweight emo guy.That's actually why I think it's even cooler that they won, seeing how all the other women in the eurovision always look like the quintessential bimbo.

I say wot i want ere son! *rides off on a big shiny scooter*

BELL BOY!!

So, does everyone hate us? Or did our song just suck ass?
Both, I think.

It's the truth. (http://www.yourovision.net/song.php?year=2006&song=20) *nods*

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/bevelheadgrl/thud.gif

Buh? Nobody hates the British.

Really, I thought you lot regarded us as Europes USA :(

That's actually why I think it's even cooler that they won, seeing how all the other women in the eurovision always look like the quintessential bimbo.

Heh, this reminds me of a conversation I had with my father last year after Lordi's victory.

Dad: Sure, it was the best song, at least in the parts where they weren't actually singing, but no reasonable person would ever vote for them.
Me: Oh yeah? Theh who would a reasonable person vote?
Dad: All those hawt young chicks in skimpy clothing, of course.

Heh, this reminds me of a conversation I had with my father last year after Lordi's victory.

Dad: Sure, it was the best song, at least in the parts where they weren't actually singing, but no reasonable person would ever vote for them.
Me: Oh yeah? Theh who would a reasonable person vote?
Dad: All those hawt young chicks in skimpy clothing, of course.

Your father is a wise man.

Heh, this reminds me of a conversation I had with my father last year after Lordi's victory.

Dad: Sure, it was the best song, at least in the parts where they weren't actually singing, but no reasonable person would ever vote for them.
Me: Oh yeah? Theh who would a reasonable person vote?
Dad: All those hawt young chicks in skimpy clothing, of course.

You have much to learn young grasshopper

Apart from germany and france...oh yeah...and anyone else we colonised :DOops, forgot France. :D
But no, Germany doesn't hate Britain at all. Like, you're not even on our radar. Nobody cares about you except to

1) read in the yellow press about royal shenanigans
2) make fun of stereotypical English things like rain and umbrellas and bowler hats and bad food and afternoon tea
3) be hurt if your press makes every story about Germany a story of WWII clichés about little Hitlers and Blitzkriegs
4) take a cheap flight to go shopping in London over the weekend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/bevelheadgrl/thud.gifTold ya. *pats*

Really, I thought you lot regarded us as Europes USA :(Nah. Blair? yes. You guys? Nah. :fluffle:

Too bad I can never remember country names to match the songs..

Those I do remember:

- I think my top ones were France (WTF was up with them getting close to no points?!), Sweden, Romania, Russia, and someone I appear to have forgotten.

- of the usual non-quality were most remarkably Turkey, Greece, Belarus, the last two (three?) entries - honestly, tree of passion, decorated with what appears to be loo paper? hypnotic song withrandom drums? Girl who forgets not to sing whe breathing in? - , the monstrous British entry, the incredible failure that was the Irish performance (As our commentator put it so aptly "Now there's a country where nearly everyone can sing.. and they pick the one woman who can neither sing nor dance?"), and.. many others.

- as one of my flatmates put it: "Well, at least an ugly, fat lesbian without any charme at all but a nice voice won. That's good news for the music-vs-good looks debate, right?"


P.S. Congrats to Fassigen for getting his wish as far as this year's winner goes! :]

I think the way to win (if you really want to; personally, I reckon this years ones from the UK, France and Ukraine were the right kind of tongue-in-cheek approach to take regardless of votes) is to try to be a bit more tangential in our song styles. Suggestions:

Speed Metal German Lullabies
Full-orchestral Operatic Arias (G&S, anyone?)
Bhangra
Football chants aimed against the Eurovision Song Contest (Lithuania's last year was awesome!)
A One Man Band (and his dog)

P.S. Congrats to Fassigen for getting his wish as far as this year's winner goes! :]

:eek: He knows all that is Eurovision! *Hides*

A One Man Band (and his dog)
Now THAT I would vote for!

Speed Metal German Lullabies
What please?
Football chants aimed against the Eurovision Song Contest (Lithuania's last year was awesome!)
Seconded, thirded, and fourthed! And Lithuania's entry last year was über-awesome!
A One Man Band (and his dog)
Umm, right.. actually, why not. ;P
...

2) make fun of stereotypical English things like rain and umbrellas and bowler hats and bad food and afternoon tea
Funny how stereotypes work... It really doesn't rain much here (except for the last few days), I've never seen a bowler hat worn in anger, and afternoon tea is almost unheard of.

As for our food.. Our food is brilliant. And our words are backed with nuclear weapons. So there :p

3) be hurt if your press makes every story about Germany a story of WWII clichés about little Hitlers and Blitzkriegs

Don't forget reserving sun-loungers with towels! Although I've never seen that happen, either, but what does reality have to do with it. And ruthless Teutonic efficiency and engineering! And the lack of a sense of humour, but that one's not very accurate either. Ho hum.
But I think it's quite telling that the thing we're most proud of was a little spat that finished over sixty years ago, occasionally punctuated by about one footbally thing ever (I forget, I don't like the game, but wasn't that a while ago too? 1966 or something?).

4) take a cheap flight to go shopping in London over the weekend.

But... Why would you do that?

i be more happy to vote for last years winner again then some of the ones this year if i lived over there

Full-orchestral Operatic Arias (G&S, anyone?)

It's on.

Given that I'm already doing some G&S to infuriate the people who want to do modern musical songs I'm SO up for it.

wanna get together for it next year?

Serbia!?

*Just found out*

I wonder how long it will be before the Western European nations pull out because of the Eastern voting blocks.

Right now, I want to be on Malta. With the bunch of horrifically drunk British sailors and/ or tourists who managed to single-handedly out-vote the natives.

Because the party they're having right now must be fucking awesome.

Funny how stereotypes work... It really doesn't rain much here (except for the last few days),Suuuuuuure. ;p
I've never seen a bowler hat worn in anger:p
and afternoon tea is almost unheard of.Quoi? :eek:


But... Why would you do that?Because London is hip and cool and a shopping paradise? And the flights only cost 30€ if you're lucky? Which means that the shitload of money you're gonna need for hotel, food and, well, shopping at least isn't added to by a shitload of money for the plane fare?

Don't ask me, I've never been.

I wonder how long it will be before the Western European nations pull out because of the Eastern voting blocks.

... and I wonder how long the ESC is going to survive if "the Western European nations", including Germany/UK/France/Spain who single-handedly finance that event, "pull out".

.. I hear that there's talk about maybe "reforming" the voting system somehow?

... and I wonder how long the ESC is going to survive if "the Western European nations", including Germany/UK/France/Spain who single-handedly finance that event, "pull out".

.. I hear that there's talk about maybe "reforming" the voting system somehow?

I don't know how you could make it any different - it's hardly surprising that countries that until very recently were one nation are voting for each other. It would be like breaking up the UK and then expressing surprise that England voted for Scotland.

In fairness, though, the UK entries for the last few years have been utter shite, so it's hardly the voting systems fault that we've not won it.

I must say the standard of song was higher than usual ( except for the UK and Ireland who just dropped names aswell as Romania)

Serbia's song was one of my favourites even though it was fortunately geographically placed, Finland had a good song too


Just think if Russia or the Ukraine have a good song they would be unstoppable

Quoi? :eek:
Cups of tea, loads of. But proper afternoon tea with scones and cream and jam, at 4pm? Alas, no :(
Apart from some (generally old) people who might have it as a treat when they go on their holidays, or something. And maybe Rich People. But not us plebs :/

Because London is hip and cool and a shopping paradise? And the flights only cost 30€ if you're lucky? Which means that the shitload of money you're gonna need for hotel, food and, well, shopping at least isn't added to by a shitload of money for the plane fare?

Don't ask me, I've never been.

Which London is this? ;)
Strikes me you could just buy the stuff from Amazon, then go somewhere nice for a weekend... But hey, whatever turns hip, cool shoppers on I guess...

Don't ask me, I've never been.

You forget the Gravlenesque *furiously whistles innocently* tags.

.. I hear that there's talk about maybe "reforming" the voting system somehow?
Well it's been done lots of times before. Maybe bringing a jury into play somehow?
You forget the Gravlenesque *furiously whistles innocently* tags.
"Gravlenesque"... I like that. :D

*Fluffles furiously* :fluffle:

I don't know how you could make it any different - it's hardly surprising that countries that until very recently were one nation are voting for each other. It would be like breaking up the UK and then expressing surprise that England voted for Scotland.


I hear there's talk about trying to make it more representative via allocating votes according to inhabitants, but meh. While that might give some relieve to the "Eastern block problem", it doesn't alleviate teh general problem of neighboring countries voting for each other / other assorted non-music-based voting behaviour, like huge immigrant communities *looks at Germany's unbroken habit of given max points to Turkey*

"Gravlenesque"... I like that. :D

*Fluffles furiously* :fluffle:

Great, a new word to have to remember. Now if I could only get the definition down...

Well it's been done lots of times before. Maybe bringing a jury into play somehow?
Another flatmate suggested the same, but I think that goes against the spirit of the whole thing. Can as well call it "European Idol", then..

.. no, that was NOT a suggestion!

"Gravlenesque"... I like that. :D

*Fluffles furiously* :fluffle:

You get your dirty little fluffles off me! *fight fluffles furiously*

I don't know how you could make it any different - it's hardly surprising that countries that until very recently were one nation are voting for each other. It would be like breaking up the UK and then expressing surprise that England voted for Scotland.


That might be quite surprising
perhaps not though, most of the animosity is banter

Surprising how I could predict the outcome better than most of the self proclaimed "experts" by basic knowledge in geography, history and politics. It's always been political. The reason why the west European countries scored shit this year was because the songs stank. The East had much better songs this year.

There should be a jury because people are too stupid to vote. They only vote for their neighbours or immigrants vote for their home countries, an additional reason why the eastern countries get more votes from the west than the other way around.

I'm boycotting this contest until a competent jury is deciding again.

I'm boycotting this contest until a competent jury is deciding again.

Oh, shut up. The Western European songs sucked ass and none of them deserved to get higher than they got, with the exception of Finland.

Serbia is a very deserving winner, and its geographical and political situation had nothing to do with it; they've consistently placed well and they got high scores across the board, not to mention of course that the song is beautiful and sung very competently.

P.S. Congrats to Fassigen for getting his wish as far as this year's winner goes! :]

Not to mention that I wished for high places for both Ukraine and Russia! This year was very kind on my sympathies, so yay! :)

Oh, shut up. The Western European songs sucked ass and none of them deserved to get higher than they got, with the exception of Finland.

Serbia is a very deserving winner, and its geographical and political situation had nothing to do with it; they've consistently placed well and they got high scores across the board, not to mention of course that the song is beautiful and sung very competently.

I must agree. I had the translation on and in english it sounded enchanting

I must agree. I had the translation on and in english it sounded enchanting

Here's a little secret: I didn't need a translation. I understand Serbo-Croatian. It is stunning in the original.

Oh, shut up. The Western European songs sucked ass.

whats with all the ass sucking on this site ffs...its such an american lame thing to say DUDE!

whats with all the ass sucking on this site ffs...its such an american lame thing to say DUDE!

It's not an American thing, it is a USA thing. Do not attempt to dictate to me which slang of this already wretchedly ugly language I may or may not use, because you will find that your squalid opinion will have fallen on very dismissing ears.

Ireland came last! Woohoo! Serves the people who organised the Irish entry right for sending such a muppet of a singer (worst performance of the night, I agree) to represent our country. 5 points (who gave them to us, by the way?) - they should've gotten 0! Maybe Ireland might cop on and realise that they'll never win with 'traditional' Irish songs and no presentation.

Honestly, though, I feel sorry for the UK. They tried so hard - their song was so incredibly cheesy and camp - if it had been performed by an Eastern European country it would've done well.

As for Serbia winning - I'm actually quite pleased. It was a nice song and the woman could actually sing in tune. If the Ukraine, on the other hand, had won, I would've been furious - a terrible song, and a tacky performance. I hate to say it but it was mostly political voting. I sat watching the scores with my atlas, picking out the countries that bordered each one, or in many cases the countries from whence many immigrants in said country came from, and I have to tell you that most of the time I wasn't one bit surprised. Even Ireland voted somewhat politically - Lithuania had one of the lowest scores, and yet it got 12 points from Ireland (quite a few Lithuanians over here).

Kudos to Finland, though, for putting on a great show. Their lighting, the stage, and the overall presentation was superb. Even the presenters didn't come on too often (or change their outfits every 20 minutes) nor were they very annoying (except for thet blonde girl in the pink dress behind the scenes). A very good show, if an unsurprising ending.

Here's a little secret: I didn't need a translation. I understand Serbo-Croatian. It is stunning in the original.

Yes its a stunning song I'm just glad i know what it means

Good for you

but hey i only learnt spanish

I find it rather surprising that a song without a single word of english won.

Oh, shut up. The Western European songs sucked ass and none of them deserved to get higher than they got, with the exception of Finland.
Well, Finland is debatable as an Western European country seeing as it shares a border with Russia. Hence part of the reason why it won last year. The funny thing is that if you take out the big 4 (UK, France, Spain and Germany) who automatically qualify for the final every year the onle other Western European countries were Sweden and Ireland - so the Eurovision was dominated by Eastern European countries (some of whom I wasn't even aware of being considered as part of Europe - Georgia and Armenia are further east than Iraq and on my atlas were shown as part of Asia). In fact, in the semi final 10/10 of the countries voted into the final were from Eastern Europe - doesn't really seem fair, does it?

who the fuck voted for serbia?? they should be ashamed of themselves. they were barely top 20. Ukraine should have won and it was a travesty that israel's act didn't make it to the finals. usual excuse but: fucking politics, bah!

who the fuck voted for serbia?? they should be ashamed of themselves. they were barely top 20. Ukraine should have won and it was a travesty that israel's act didn't make it to the finals. usual excuse but: fucking politics, bah!

the Ukraines song was shit

I agree with you on Iserals shon though- better than a lot that got in especially my country (UK)

who the fuck voted for serbia?? they should be ashamed of themselves. they were barely top 20. Ukraine should have won and it was a travesty that israel's act didn't make it to the finals. usual excuse but: fucking politics, bah!

WTF? The Ukranian entry was utter crap. Seriously, I could not listen to more then 20 seconds of it (on any volume level) without getting permanent ear damage.

who the fuck voted for serbia?? they should be ashamed of themselves. they were barely top 20. Ukraine should have won and it was a travesty that israel's act didn't make it to the finals. usual excuse but: fucking politics, bah!

The fact that you liked Israel's tripe automatically disqualifies you from having any standing to criticise the Serbian entry, which indeed did get high scores from most countries. So, to answer your question: almost everyone voted to some extent or another for Serbia, and they did so because it was deserving.

The fact that you liked Israel's tripe automatically disqualifies you from having any standing to criticise the Serbian entry

No it does not. Ever heard of something called "free speech"?

Where can I find a list of which country allocated points to the other?
The only one listed on the eurovision site was the semi-final one.

No it does not. Ever heard of something called "free speech"?

In this case it is not censorship it is just how much people will think of your opinion as better than others.

Well, Finland is debatable as an Western European country seeing as it shares a border with Russia.

Norway shares a border with Russia as well, so your comment is completely irrelevant. Finland is Western European. That is not debatable at all.

Hence part of the reason why it won last year.

No, the reason it won was that they sent a good song. Just like Greece (another country that counts as Western European) the year before them. So, we have two Western countries win consecutively, but that for some reason isn't enough for xenophobes, is it? They never want anyone else to win, do they? So they bitch and moan about "voting blocks" even after "their side" (:rolleyes:) won twice in a row.

The funny thing is that if you take out the big 4 (UK, France, Spain and Germany) who automatically qualify for the final every year the onle other Western European countries were Sweden and Ireland

If you look at the songs sent by the other Western countries, they sucked last year like they sucked this year. So, they didn't deserve to be in the final.

- so the Eurovision was dominated by Eastern European countries (some of whom I wasn't even aware of being considered as part of Europe - Georgia and Armenia are further east than Iraq and on my atlas were shown as part of Asia).

Georgia and Armenia are considered transcontinental countries. They are both European and Asian. Not that it is in any way relevant to the ESC because the competing nations do not have to be European - they just have to be members of the EBU/UER. That is why Israel competes. That is why Morocco competed. That was why Lebanon would have competed last year had they not withdrawn.

In fact, in the semi final 10/10 of the countries voted into the final were from Eastern Europe - doesn't really seem fair, does it?

This is a competition. It's not about being fair, and it's quite pathetic for sore losers to invoke such a puerile notion.

No it does not. Ever heard of something called "free speech"?

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with you single-handedly rendering what you speak valueless. You can still speak it, but it will still hold no value.

And for those who don't speak the language

Prayer
Ni oka da sklopim I can't close my eyes
Postelja prazna tera san The empty bed chases sleep away
A život se topi And my life is melting away
I nestaje brzo, k'o dlanom o dlan And it's disappearing quickly, in a split second

K'o razum da gubim It seems I'm losing my mind
Jer stvarnost i ne primećujem As I don't even notice reality
Još uvek te ljubim I still love you
Još uvek ti slepo verujem I still trust you blindly

K'o luda, ne znam kuda Like crazy, I don't know where to go
Ljubavi se nove bojim I'm afraid of a new love
A dane, žive rane And the days are like open wounds
Više ne brojim I don't count them anymore

Molitva, kao žar na mojim usnama je Prayer, like ardour on my lips
Molitva, mesto reči samo ime tvoje Prayer, just your name, instead of words
Nebo zna, kao ja Heaven knows, just as I do
Koliko puta sam ponovila How many times I've repeated this
To nebo zna, baš kao ja Heaven knows, just as I do
Da je ime tvoje moja jedina molitva That your name is my only prayer

Al Bogu ne mogu lagati But I can't lie to God
Sve dok se molim As long as I pray
A lažem ako kažem And I'd be lying if I said
Da te ne volim That I don't love you

Molitva, kao žar na mojim usnama je Prayer, like ardour on my lips
Molitva, mesto reči samo ime tvoje Prayer, just your name, instead of words
Nebo zna, baš kao ja Heaven knows, just as I do
Koliko puta sam ponovila How many times I've repeated this
To nebo zna, baš kao ja Heaven knows, just as I do
Da je ime tvoje moja molitva That your name is my prayer
(Molitva, molitva) (Prayer, prayer)

I nebo zna, baš kao ja And heaven knows, just as I do
Koliko puta sam ponovila How many times I've repeated this
To nebo zna, baš kao ja Heaven knows, just as I do
Da je ime tvoje moja jedina molitva That your name is my only prayer

Da je ime tvoje moja molitva That your name is my prayer


There you go

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with you single-handedly rendering what you speak valueless. You can still speak it, but it will still hold no value.

Maybe to you, but you are not everyone.

Maybe to you,

No shit, Sherlock. Is there any other obviousness you'd like to expose? The sky being blue? Water being wet? Where yellow snow comes from?

but you are not everyone.

And you are no one to me, so it evens out.

the Ukraines song was shit

I agree with you on Iserals shon though- better than a lot that got in especially my country (UK)

WTF? The Ukranian entry was utter crap. Seriously, I could not listen to more then 20 seconds of it (on any volume level) without getting permanent ear damage.

The fact that you liked Israel's tripe automatically disqualifies you from having any standing to criticise the Serbian entry, which indeed did get high scores from most countries. So, to answer your question: almost everyone voted to some extent or another for Serbia, and they did so because it was deserving.

ukraine was rediculously shit, but this was eurovision, it embodied the spirit off the event as far as i'm concerned. israel's entry was 'controversial' and frankly all over the place, hence it was interesting and deserved further recognition. serbia was simply boring, there is no other way to describe it. pure pap. all other entries were beyond mention, well germany was entertaining if entirely unoriginal. and let me be counted as saying britain's entry was a disgrace.

why does everyone keep citing 'western europe' as some sort of <i dunno>... thing what people have to aspire to 'standard wise'?


fuck western europe. the best music these days s not from 'western' europe at all.

Israel's entry was 'controversial'

No, it wasn't, since "controversial" doesn't mean "crap".

and frankly all over the place, hence it was interesting and deserved further recognition.

It wasn't interesting in the least; it was a typical "kisspaus"-song as we say. "Kisspaus" = "pee break."

fuck western europe. the best music these days s not from 'western' europe at all.

But they have the money and give it to the EBU.

Did Turkey give any points to Armenia this year?

No, it wasn't, since "controversial" doesn't mean "crap".



It wasn't interesting in the least; it was a typical "kisspaus"-song as we say. "Kisspaus" = "pee break."

okay, but we are talking about eurovision here. it was controversial according to some interpretations. most of them encounter eurovision as a parade of power-balad singers with there eyes on some sort of recognition, if not 'the stars', and subject matter restricted to bollocks about love and patriotism and whatever the fuck they were on about. israel's entry was different, it stretched what eurovision sounded like, and it stretched what eurovision stands for. unfortunately the producer/mixer was a woebegone amateur and they fell flat on their face.

But they have the money and give it to the EBU.

Did Turkey give any points to armenia this year?

turkey's entry was dire, i can't remember armenia's entry.

israel's entry was different, it stretched what eurovision sounded like

Actually, no. Eurovision has seen many nonsensical entries over the years and Israel's was simply the crappier of the sort. There was nothing in it that hadn't already been seen, such as for instance in Austria's 2003 entry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJt6Gv4XPk), the shtick of which Israel seem to have diligently emulated.

Actually, no. Eurovision has seen many nonsensical entries over the years and Israel's was simply the crappier of the sort. There was nothing in it that hadn't already been seen, such as for instance in Austria's 2003 entry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJt6Gv4XPk), the shtick of which Israel seem to have diligently emulated.

alright, whatever :p. serbia's was still tripe.


i'm listening to that austrian entry and i don't know german well enough to understand, nor are there subtitles, but it has much less sense than israel's entry, which had a 'message' of sorts.

alright, whatever :p. serbia's was still tripe.

As I said, your standing to criticise Serbia's entry is questionable to say the least.

Well, Finland is debatable as an Western European country seeing as it shares a border with Russia. Hence part of the reason why it won last year.
WOW!

Just Wow!

...

And fuck the Eurovision part of that post... WOW!

WOW!
Just Wow!

I know. The... ignorant silliness... of the comment is breathtaking.

As I said, your standing to criticise Serbia's entry is questionable to say the least.

i edited the post. serbia's was still shit, utterly uninspiring. she sings okay but there were better, and i don't understand serbian (i assume she was singing in serbian, correct me if i am wrong). there were two opera singing groups in the final that i noticed who far surpassed her. the lady was by far the superior singer, i can't remember who she sang for though.

I know. The... ignorant silliness... of the comment is breathtaking.It's okay, I guess. The guy who posted that is a nincompoop seeing that he comes from a country that shares a border with a country that has Tony Blair as a Prime Minister.

... is this the way how it works..?

i edited the post. serbia's was still shit, utterly uninspiring. she sings okay but there were better, and i don't understand serbian (i assume she was singing in serbian, correct me if i am wrong).

I need not correct you for you to be wrong.

there were two opera singing groups in the final that i noticed who far surpassed her. the lady was by far the superior singer, i can't remember who she sang for though.

For the opera genre, the Slovenian entrant was bottom of the barrel. As a fan of opera, I was disgusted by the low quality of her "singing", which it pains me to even call that, not to mention her insincere countenance (one tip: when people only smile with their mouths and not their eyes, know that they are faking it) and appalling dress. And that cheap gimmick with the lights in the hand? She looked like a leper with lesions! You sell yourself to a bargain, and she should be as embarrassed as no doubt every Slovenian who has anything with opera to do was.

As I said, your standing to criticise Serbia's entry is questionable to say the least.

its all shite...its the eurovision ffs...is the UK the only country that takes it as the light hearted joke that is is?

its not music...its camp pantomime at its best ;)

its not music...its camp pantomime at its best ;)
QFT

I need not correct you for you to be wrong.



For the opera genre, the Slovenian entrant was bottom of the barrel. As a fan of opera, I was disgusted by the low quality of her "singing", which it pains me to even call that, not to mention her insincere countenance (one tip: when people only smile with their mouths and not their eyes, know that they are faking it) and appalling dress. And that cheap gimmick with the lights in the hand? You sell yourself to a bargain, and she should be as embarrassed as no doubt every Slovenian who has anything with opera to do was.

indeed, but this is eurovision. it is almost always the bottom of the barrel. the only other 'opera' entrant was a barbershop group (okay there were some 'metal' warblers). she was still the best in that respect.


and the LEDs gained a point from me :p but then i don't exactly take this seriously. no the competition anyway, sparing over analyses is a different matter :p

I had a lot of fun watching this whilst simultaneously cross-commenting on the #ns_general IRC channel and in other places. It was an enchanting evening, some wonderful songs and some that really sucked.

To the British whiners...... let me be very, very, VERY honest here. I'm Dutch, and as such I like Britain. You are our neighbours, you're generally nice people. And there is Shell and all those other nice multinational businesses. We're chums. If anyone is likely to vote for you, it's us.

HOWEVER.

The United Kingdom entry to eurovision sucked. And I don't just mean that it was bad. It was mind-bendingly HORRIBLE. Moreover, it was without a doubt the worst song in the entire songfestival, though Irelands attempt to woe us with traditional dresses, leprechauns and bad singing came damn close. I personally don't understand it. I love British music generally. Britpop is great. WHY did you guys have to send those.. well.... monkeys to represent you?

I'll choose a powerful ballad over patriotic airline-innuendo any day.

During the tally I kept hoping the Ukraine would not win. A tin-foil transvestite with a big communist star on top. Seriously. What are people thinking???

In my opinion, both Finland and Germany deserved to score higher, so they can crai more about how OMG Eastern Europe political vote NOES. I dunno.. the German guy was cute AND could sort of sing. (The Greek guy was cuter, but his lack of talent slightly annoyed me.)

Serbia, on the other hand, actually did have a really nice song. I enjoyed it. It was genuine, it had depth. A deserving winner.