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Seriously. Who comes up with these commercials?

Jareds are the worst of the lot. Im sure youve seen them (if you live in the US, at least).
Basically Mr. Good Husband goes to Jareds and buys his wife/whore a nice assortment of diamonds mined by 12 year olds in Africa (AT LOW LOW PRICES), then when he arrives home everybody goes:
"ZOMG HE WENT TO JAREDS!"
And Mr. Bad Husband gets a nasty look from his wife/shrew.

This is quite possibly worse than a certain Digiorno pizza commercial Im not even going to mention.

In any case, lets all hope and pray (or not, since this IS NS general) that TV stays wrong.

wait, what Digiorno commercial?

Seriously. Who comes up with these commercials?

Jareds are the worst of the lot. Im sure youve seen them (if you live in the US, at least).
Basically Mr. Good Husband goes to Jareds and buys his wife/whore a nice assortment of diamonds mined by 12 year olds in Africa (AT LOW LOW PRICES), then when he arrives home everybody goes:
"ZOMG HE WENT TO JAREDS!"
And Mr. Bad Husband gets a nasty look from his wife/shrew.

This is quite possibly worse than a certain Digiorno pizza commercial Im not even going to mention.

In any case, lets all hope and pray (or not, since this IS NS general) that TV stays wrong.

There was one commercial (I think it was a Master Card commercial) where it does the whole listing price thing, and it was talking about a newly engaged couple. and the price of the ring was $9,000!! There's no way in Hell I'm spending $9,000 on a ring! Especially since divorce is so common nowadays.

I hate the Jared commercials too.

Overpriced pieces of jewelry.....

Seriously. Who comes up with these commercials?

Jareds are the worst of the lot. Im sure youve seen them (if you live in the US, at least).
Basically Mr. Good Husband goes to Jareds and buys his wife/whore a nice assortment of diamonds mined by 12 year olds in Africa (AT LOW LOW PRICES), then when he arrives home everybody goes:
"ZOMG HE WENT TO JAREDS!"
And Mr. Bad Husband gets a nasty look from his wife/shrew.

This is quite possibly worse than a certain Digiorno pizza commercial Im not even going to mention.

In any case, lets all hope and pray (or not, since this IS NS general) that TV stays wrong.
I hate, hate, hate the Jared's commercials. Hate 'em. I must admit I never saw Nice Wifey as a Whore, though. I wouldn't say no to a nice assortment of diamonds, preferably unset so I could stick 'em on wherever I fancied, but I hate those commercials. Hate 'em.

Be some high priced whores to get paid in diamonds. Best be one hell of a roll in the sack.

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this. Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

lol

yeah, all women are whores for diamonds. your wife will forgive you anything if you just buy her diamonds (it did get kobe bryant off the hook).

jewelry is so much better given before you are married than after. the thought of my husband giving me a $5000 diamond bracelet that *I* will end up paying the credit card bills for for the next 10 years just robs it of all the romanticism.

go figure that these ads are brought to us by jewelry stores and the debeers diamond cartel.

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this. Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

was at a party recently where this doctor lady was "having hubby trade in the 2 carat stone for a 3 carat" soon. Hey, why not 5?

Don't worry...as women start making better coin than some men, there will be commercials about wives buying their husbands expensive muscle cars.

...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

Wow.... just Wow..... and five bucks says that those three women soon divorced their husbands, and took half of his stuff and pawned the engagement ring.

That's why if I ever get engaged to Kay, I'm not going to go all out on the engagement ring, I'm just not.

This is quite possibly worse than a certain Digiorno pizza commercial Im not even going to mention.
Please mention it anyway. I wanna know!

There was one commercial (I think it was a Master Card commercial) where it does the whole listing price thing, and it was talking about a newly engaged couple. and the price of the ring was $9,000!! There's no way in Hell I'm spending $9,000 on a ring! Especially since divorce is so common nowadays.

I hate the Jared commercials too.

Overpriced pieces of jewelry.....

*gasp*

wilgrove, if you LUUUUV her you will buy her a ring that costs 6 months of your earnings. 3 months if you are a cheap bastard who only loves her a little bit.

*I* dont make the rules, i just report them


DeBeers makes the rules

Don't worry...as women start making better coin than some men, there will be commercials about wives buying their husbands expensive muscle cars.

Ha, that'll be the day. The commercials will most likely switch over to "Have your boyfriend/fiancee/husband buy..." to buy yourself..."

Wow.... just Wow..... and five bucks says that those three women soon divorced their husbands, and took half of his stuff and pawned the engagement ring. Oh, these were women who hadn't been proposed to yet.

That's why if I ever get engaged to Kay, I'm not going to go all out on the engagement ring, I'm just not.Because you expect her to divorce you, take half your stuff and pawn the engagement ring? Perhaps you need to considering marrying someone else if you believe her to have that sort of character. Or do you really believe that all women automatically end up doing these things? Is it a sort of default position we take?

Blood diamonds and overpriced stones' days are numbered.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.09/diamond.html

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this. Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

lol

yeah, all women are whores for diamonds. your wife will forgive you anything if you just buy her diamonds (it did get kobe bryant off the hook).

jewelry is so much better given before you are married than after. the thought of my husband giving me a $5000 diamond bracelet that *I* will end up paying the credit card bills for for the next 10 years just robs it of all the romanticism.

go figure that these ads are brought to us by jewelry stores and the debeers diamond cartel.

I like diamonds and I like all sorts of pretty shiny stones, though my Lady likes them more than I do. Some years back we exchanged gifts of jewelry at least once a year, but not so much these days. Other priorities, like redoing the basement and such.

Diamonds are cool, though, crystals of carbon trembing way up on a high energy shelf, ready to turn into graphite, if only they could relax a little. And you never know when a diamond pipe might come blasting up through your backyard (we don't understand what causes them or where they're likely to happen). Oh, and the DeBeers "A Diamond Is Forever" slogan was created by an advertsing copywriter working late one night, it just came to her.

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this. Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

I don't like jewelry as a general rule, and I really don't like diamonds. I didn't get an engagement ring and we basically wasted the money buying the wedding bands because I don't wear mine.

I know that a lot of my friends have asked "why don't you wear your wedding ring?" and I say "it gets in my way, I don't like jewelry anyway" and they give me that look.....like I am a cheater or something. :rolleyes:

My husband trusts me without a piece of platinum on my finger.....and he respects me enough to buy me presents that I actually want.....like movies.

*gasp*

wilgrove, if you LUUUUV her you will buy her a ring that costs 6 months of your earnings. 3 months if you are a cheap bastard who only loves her a little bit.

*I* dont make the rules, i just report them


DeBeers makes the rules

*shrugs* I'm not going to spend that much on a ring, lol. Now I may spend $3,000 or ehh $1,000, but no more than $3,000. Luckily Kay is not that shallow, and hopefully we'd make it that far.

Ha, that'll be the day. The commercials will most likely switch over to "Have your boyfriend/fiancee/husband buy..." to buy yourself..."

True, and I've actually seen some diamond ads that said just this. Buying men gifts would of course undermine their masculinity, in essence...'feminising' them, and we can't have that.

Those commercials need to die a slow, painful, and undignified death.

I don't have any expensive jewls. In fact, the only thing I wear is a heart locket from my mother. I would also be terrified of losing an expensive item.

No, the quickest way to a woman's heart is to make her a nice dinner. And do the dishes. :D

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this. Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

some women seem to value the ring far more than the fiance. just as they obsess over the wedding but give no thought to the marriage that comes after.

i supppose it would be a good test for a man to give his beloved a small diamond. if she refuses to marry him because of it, he's well rid of her.

..."OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him"...


Those people should reconsider their choice of partner and reasons for marriage. Or their attitudes. Or both.

*shrugs* I'm not going to spend that much on a ring, lol. Now I may spend $3,000 or ehh $1,000, but no more than $3,000. Luckily Kay is not that shallow, and hopefully we'd make it that far.

I guess it depends on how long you plan the engagement to last too, I mean I wasn't really engaged long enough to warrant an engagement ring at all.....

you should probably talk to her about it though, you know that whole respecting her own opinion stuff. ;)

Because you expect her to divorce you, take half your stuff and pawn the engagement ring? Perhaps you need to considering marrying someone else if you believe her to have that sort of character. Or do you really believe that all women automatically end up doing these things? Is it a sort of default position we take?

No because value of the ring (to me at least) is not in the diamond, or the gold metal band, it's what it represents, and to me when I give Kay the ring, it's me telling her that I want to spend the rest of my life with her, and share my life with her, that I love her with all my heart and soul and always will The message the ring coveys is more important than what's on the ring itself.

As for my snide comment, well, those women are shallow, so, most likely, unless they're given overpriced crap by their husband, they will divorce, take half his stuff, and pawn the ring. They're shallow, it's what they do.

*shrugs* I'm not going to spend that much on a ring, lol. Now I may spend $3,000 or ehh $1,000, but no more than $3,000. Luckily Kay is not that shallow, and hopefully we'd make it that far.

should that time come, take her ring shopping. she will likely pick out a beautiful but reasonably priced ring that she wont have to be afraid of being cut off her finger in a robbery.

I don't like jewelry as a general rule, and I really don't like diamonds. I didn't get an engagement ring and we basically wasted the money buying the wedding bands because I don't wear mine.

I know that a lot of my friends have asked "why don't you wear your wedding ring?" and I say "it gets in my way, I don't like jewelry anyway" and they give me that look.....like I am a cheater or something. :rolleyes:

My husband trusts me without a piece of platinum on my finger.....and he respects me enough to buy me presents that I actually want.....like movies.Part of my dislike for gold and diamonds is that I simply don't have an eye for them. I can't tell the difference between the real thing and cheap fakes...other people can. I'm uncomfortable in anything but earrings for jewerly, and I tend to lose stuff, so it's best that I don't have anything too expensive. My husband works at a diamond mine, and they can get a discount on a stone...he called me up and asked if I wanted one...but for the $5000 it would have cost, we went to Cuba instead, and had money left over. As an investment, he could have resold it I suppose, but meh.

And Cuba was WAY more fun that the diamond would have been.

No, the quickest way to a woman's heart is to make her a nice dinner. And do the dishes. :D

QFT. After all, if I didn't have a kickass recipe for fried chicken...well, she might have married me anyway, but it helped.

I also can't imagine spending $9,000 on an engagement ring. I spent a quarter of that and was paying it off for the next year. Granted, no one's ever said a bad thing about the ring (it's 1/2 carat with sapphires and white gold...her mother described it as "exquisite" when she saw it for the first time) but no ring is worth more than that. Unless we're talking about the Kobe Bryant special, but that's another story altogether.

She wants me to upgrade the diamond sometime, but she's getting nowhere with that...I liek the diamond the way it is, and anything too big would distract from the sapphires and be out of proportion. Or that's what I tell her, anyway.

I don't know what the hellyou are on about, but I can attest to the power of the diamond.

*shrugs* I'm not going to spend that much on a ring, lol. Now I may spend $3,000 or ehh $1,000, but no more than $3,000. Luckily Kay is not that shallow, and hopefully we'd make it that far.

But ... but ... what if she's trapped in an underground dungeon one day and there's a window she could just squeeze through, if only she had a nice big diamond to cut out the glass? Would your condemn you beloved to a fate worse than death just to save a little money? Besides, when she's flashing that nice piece of ice around, all the other men's penises will be shrivelling up. Which is why I hate the Jareds commercials, too.

I'm lucky in that my gf of nearly five years agrees with me that there's a lot of more important shite on which you can spend your money than a bleedin' ring.

But ... but ... what if she's trapped in an underground dungeon one day and there's a window she could just squeeze through, if only she had a nice big diamond to cut out the glass? Would your condemn you beloved to a fate worse than death just to save a little money? Besides, when she's flashing that nice piece of ice around, all the other men's penises will be shrivelling up. Which is why I hate the Jareds commercials, too.

LOL, I like you. :)

I like diamonds and I like all sorts of pretty shiny stones, though my Lady likes them more than I do. Some years back we exchanged gifts of jewelry at least once a year, but not so much these days. Other priorities, like redoing the basement and such.

Diamonds are cool, though, crystals of carbon trembing way up on a high energy shelf, ready to turn into graphite, if only they could relax a little. And you never know when a diamond pipe might come blasting up through your backyard (we don't understand what causes them or where they're likely to happen). Oh, and the DeBeers "A Diamond Is Forever" slogan was created by an advertsing copywriter working late one night, it just came to her.

i like shiny stones but diamonds are my least favorite.

i like red garnets and blue topaz the best. pretty stones that you can get in a big size without winning the lottery.

"Diamonds.... she'll practically have to" - Some Ad I think, I cant quite remember. I thought it was pretty funny at the time.

They say a ring should cost about 2 month's salary. They are dorks.

A ring has to mean something. Pick it out with her. Most women don't want to wear $10,000 rings on their fingers. If you pick it out yourself, pick something with some meaning and story behind it. Have a family heirloom resized and maybe a new stone set into it.

What I did is I had a ring made at a specialty site that makes Titanium jewelry. The ring is indestructible, has a very elegant design, nice stone settings and neither broke the bank, nor makes my wife nervous wearing it.

I got the idea for an indestructible titanium ring from a book. :)

"Every Kiss Begins with Kay."

Make of that what you will.

I would rather use $10,000 as half the down payment on a house. I don't want to wear something worth that much, my luck it's go down the sink drain on my honeymoon.

BTW: Like the titanium ring idea.

"Every Kiss Begins with Kay."

Make of that what you will.

my husband hates those commercials......he said "I would pay not to have a woman who only showed me affection because of what I bought her."

:p

I'd love to say that I am in the majority as a woman who not only doesn't like diamonds, but would feel very uncomfortable getting one as a gift (knowing damn well I'm going to lose it at some point). However, in various informal polls of other women, I find that I am almost completely alone in this.

I've got to admit....I like them. *sheepish look* Of course, I like gemstones in general. I absolutely adore opals, but I'm scared to get them, because they're such soft stones and I'm so hard on jewelry.

Many women really do gush over diamonds...and I have heard this ridiculous phrase on three separate occassions, "OMG if he bought me an ugly engagement ring, I wouldn't agree to marry him".

Seriously, if I ever heard a woman say that, I'd steer all my guy friends as far away from her as possible.

It's okay if you like diamonds...I don't have to understand it. But how much is this a case of life imitating art or the other way around (in terms of the media)? Are these commercials reflecting real attitudes, or creating them? Hard to say.

I think they're probably doing a little of both - definitely feeding the stereotype.


was at a party recently where this doctor lady was "having hubby trade in the 2 carat stone for a 3 carat" soon. Hey, why not 5?

Who can wear something like that? A 1 carat looked gigantenormous on my hand (although my half carat looks wonderful =). What kind of fat fingers do you need so that a 2 carat (or ZOMG a 3 carat?) doesn't look like costume jewelry?

my husband hates those commercials......he said "I would pay not to have a woman who only showed me affection because of what I bought her."

:p

What an excellent point.

"Every Kiss Begins with Kay."

Make of that what you will.

The sad thing is I just got that slogan the other day.

should that time come, take her ring shopping. she will likely pick out a beautiful but reasonably priced ring that she wont have to be afraid of being cut off her finger in a robbery.

Or, Wilgrove, if you really want it to be a surprise, arrange to go with her best friend or her mother - someone who knows her tastes really well.

I'm a big fan of surprises, although I did essentially pick my ring out. His mom took me shopping to get an idea of what I wanted and then took him back to show him. I didn't know when or where we'd make it official, though. =)

I would rather use $10,000 as half the down payment on a house. I don't want to wear something worth that much, my luck it's go down the sink drain on my honeymoon.

BTW: Like the titanium ring idea.

They even have a gold ring that uses titanium in the alloy. They can make a ring that's about 24 karat gold but more durable than a 14 karat gold ring.

You know, for those of you that must have gold. :)

... Who can wear something like that? A 1 carat looked gigantenormous on my hand (although my half carat looks wonderful =). What kind of fat fingers do you need so that a 2 carat (or ZOMG a 3 carat?) doesn't look like costume jewelry?

Oh, trust me, Dem, try a few really big stones on and you won't ask those questions. We've done that, just for fun, if the jewelers aren't busy they'll gladly show off what they have, if you show some interest. Sometimes they do look unreal, I have to admit, but ... :D ... they're cool.

I've got to admit....I like them. *sheepish look* Of course, I like gemstones in general. I absolutely adore opals, but I'm scared to get them, because they're such soft stones and I'm so hard on jewelry. There is no reason to feel bad about liking diamonds. And I'd love an opal too, but for the same reasons as you, I've just given up on it:)

Oh, trust me, Dem, try a few really big stones on and you won't ask those questions. We've done that, just for fun, if the jewelers aren't busy they'll gladly show off what they have, if you show some interest. Sometimes they do look unreal, I have to admit, but ... :D ... they're cool.

I did try on a few big stones. They looked pretty awful - even though they were really high quality diamonds. Maybe it's just because my fingers are pretty slender, but anything bigger than 1/2 to 3/4 carats just looked overdone.

well i've never seen that advert, but it sound okay to me

i mean there are at least some women like that in marriage, and thats the target audience for the advert

i don't see the need to act morally superior or think you are a deeper person over something as simple as whether you like expensive jewelry or not

i don't see the need to act morally superior or think you are a deeper person over something as simple as whether you like expensive jewelry or not

Hey, I hardly ever eat chocolate, but when I do, I get the really expensive truffles, and I am definately morally superior because of it :p Or something.

I don't particularly care for diamonds - they may sparkle, but they're basically carbon, and probably have blood on them. If I was going to give someone some jewellery, it would have some story or meaning to it. Maybe Snowflake Obsidian at christmas.

Jewellery made from impact breccias would be cool, too.

One of my geology lecturers has the winner though. He and his wife have wedding rings made from gold he panned himself on our fieldtrips.

well i've never seen that advert, but it sound okay to me

i mean there are at least some women like that in marriage, and thats the target audience for the advert

i don't see the need to act morally superior or think you are a deeper person over something as simple as whether you like expensive jewelry or not

I don't think it's a matter of liking expensive jewelry. I'm sure most women (and men, too!) have seen expensive jewelry of some sort that they quite like. It's a matter of painting expensive jewelry as a necessity in a relationship - and suggesting that most women see it that way.

Because you expect her to divorce you, take half your stuff and pawn the engagement ring? Perhaps you need to considering marrying someone else if you believe her to have that sort of character. Or do you really believe that all women automatically end up doing these things? Is it a sort of default position we take?
It's definitely a default position you womyns take.... :mad:

It's definitely a default position you womyns take.... :mad:

Maybe the problem isn't her. ;)

I can't help it. Every time I see men giving women expensive jewelry, I flash back to a documentary I watched about penguin courtship. The one penguin presents the other penguin with shiny pebbles and such, with all this adorable penguin head-bobbing and warbling, in the hopes that their prospective mate will agree to make penguin-babies together.

When I see a man go down on one knee and open up a jewelry box, I find myself waiting for the head-bobbing and warbling to begin. :P

Actually, I want to find out what type of crystal works like this:
Sunstone (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,2007399,00.html)

Could be any, but I've never seen macroscopic birefringence in a crystal before.

It's definitely a default position you womyns take.... :mad:
Jesus Christ would you stop constantly whining about how you can't get a woman because we're all such bitches? No same female would want to be with someone who seems to really believe that misogyny is a valid worldview. Unless her religion made that okay.

Perhaps you should seek 'bitches' among other cultures?

It's definitely a default position you womyns take.... :mad:
You need to stop hanging out with jerks.

You repeatedly whine about how all womenz is bitchez and so forth, yet you don't ever seem to want to look at why YOU are attracted to women who treat you like crap. You're no different than the women who seek out men who beat them up. I feel sorry for you, I really do, but it would be great if there were some way to get across to you that you shouldn't go around fucking people who treat you like crap. It only encourages them.

Maybe the problem isn't her. ;)

Seconded.

Of course, I've always thought that most men would just as soon marry you, then sleep with every woman they meet, to the point of rutting in alleyways, and then after a few years run off with their secretaries. But what do I know?

I don't think it's a matter of liking expensive jewelry. I'm sure most women (and men, too!) have seen expensive jewelry of some sort that they quite like. It's a matter of painting expensive jewelry as a necessity in a relationship - and suggesting that most women see it that way.

well as far as my limited experience on the matter goes, all relationships depend on some form of trading or sharing, from buying gifts to gestures of love to not rubbing something in the others face even though it's sooo tempting to

so without these "gifts" the relationship falls to pieces, so whether jewelry or personal sacrifices i think the advert hits an important point so shouldn't be judged so harshly

a truely crap advert would be the honda one with the puppets saying "c'mon!"

dunno if thats just here in the UK though, but it's pointless and REALLY annoying

I can't help it. Every time I see men giving women expensive jewelry, I flash back to a documentary I watched about penguin courtship. The one penguin presents the other penguin with shiny pebbles and such, with all this adorable penguin head-bobbing and warbling, in the hopes that their prospective mate will agree to make penguin-babies together.

When I see a man go down on one knee and open up a jewelry box, I find myself waiting for the head-bobbing and warbling to begin. :P

Well, courtship rituals have survived for eons, they must be doing something right. Do you see men handing out expensive jewelry often? And do you have to be straight to getin on this? :D

I can't help it. Every time I see men giving women expensive jewelry, I flash back to a documentary I watched about penguin courtship. The one penguin presents the other penguin with shiny pebbles and such, with all this adorable penguin head-bobbing and warbling, in the hopes that their prospective mate will agree to make penguin-babies together.

When I see a man go down on one knee and open up a jewelry box, I find myself waiting for the head-bobbing and warbling to begin. :P

My sister's bought her a beautiful antique ring with garnets for Christmas. She put it on and wouldn't stop staring at it and turning it in the light and trying different clothes on with it. She now calls the ring her "Precioussss."

There was one commercial (I think it was a Master Card commercial) where it does the whole listing price thing, and it was talking about a newly engaged couple. and the price of the ring was $9,000!! There's no way in Hell I'm spending $9,000 on a ring! Especially since divorce is so common nowadays.

I hate the Jared commercials too.

Overpriced pieces of jewelry.....

and at the end it of listing the last one it goes priceless,yer what till you see the bill

Oh, trust me, Dem, try a few really big stones on and you won't ask those questions. We've done that, just for fun, if the jewelers aren't busy they'll gladly show off what they have, if you show some interest. Sometimes they do look unreal, I have to admit, but ... :D ... they're cool.

oh the ones that are really eyepopping are the ones that are cut with twice as many facets as normal. i dont remember what they are calling those. but they have an amazing amount of sparkle. its hard to tear your eyes away at the jewelry store.

there is still a limit to how big a stone looks good. if the stone is wider than your finger or sticks more than a fingers width up off your hand, its just ugly and pretentious. for most rings, something between .5 and 2 carats is fine. more than that and they get scary expensive. no one wants to have their engagement ring stolen.

I can't help it. Every time I see men giving women expensive jewelry, I flash back to a documentary I watched about penguin courtship. The one penguin presents the other penguin with shiny pebbles and such, with all this adorable penguin head-bobbing and warbling, in the hopes that their prospective mate will agree to make penguin-babies together.

When I see a man go down on one knee and open up a jewelry box, I find myself waiting for the head-bobbing and warbling to begin. :P

Heh. The first piece of jewelry I bought my gf was when I was in Chile about five years ago. Nice turquiose down there, and I figured it matched her eyes very nicely, so I bought her a necklace. It was early in our relationship, and I was a bit shy about giving her something like that, so I tossed it at her (it was in a little box) and said, "Here, got something for you while I was gone." Then I kept on walking and hopped in the shower.

She's never gonna let me live that down. But at least I didn't act like a penguin. ;)

My sister's bought her a beautiful antique ring with garnets for Christmas. She put it on and wouldn't stop staring at it and turning it in the light and trying different clothes on with it. She now calls the ring her "Precioussss."

:eek: :eek:

Jesus Christ would you stop constantly whining about how you can't get a woman because we're all such bitches? No same female would want to be with someone who seems to really believe that misogyny is a valid worldview. Unless her religion made that okay.

Perhaps you should seek 'bitches' among other cultures?
I'll stop whining when you stop being bitches. :p
You need to stop hanging out with jerks.

You repeatedly whine about how all womenz is bitchez and so forth, yet you don't ever seem to want to look at why YOU are attracted to women who treat you like crap. You're no different than the women who seek out men who beat them up. I feel sorry for you, I really do, but it would be great if there were some way to get across to you that you shouldn't go around fucking people who treat you like crap. It only encourages them.
1. I don't fuck/have sex. Never have, never will.
2. Yes, it would be great indeed. Sadly, my skull is too thick. :p

*gasp*

wilgrove, if you LUUUUV her you will buy her a ring that costs 6 months of your earnings. 3 months if you are a cheap bastard who only loves her a little bit.

*I* dont make the rules, i just report them


DeBeers makes the rules
:eek: Six months of your earnings? What if you're a doctor or attorney or something? You should spend $50,000 on a piece of jewelry? I'd be seriously afraid to ever wear something that expensive... what if I dropped it, or broke it, or lost it or something?

:eek: Six months of your earnings? What if you're a doctor or attorney or something? You should spend $50,000 on a piece of jewelry? I'd be seriously afraid to ever wear something that expensive... what if I dropped it, or broke it, or lost it or something?

Then you'd better pay up to replace it. :p

Or just buy me some beers. ;)

My mother is no whore.

She is a virgin.

Okay, Jesus. :rolleyes:

My mother is no whore.

She is a virgin.

Heh. The first piece of jewelry I bought my gf was when I was in Chile about five years ago. Nice turquiose down there, and I figured it matched her eyes very nicely, so I bought her a necklace. It was early in our relationship, and I was a bit shy about giving her something like that, so I tossed it at her (it was in a little box) and said, "Here, got something for you while I was gone." Then I kept on walking and hopped in the shower.

She's never gonna let me live that down. But at least I didn't act like a penguin. ;)
Hehe, I do very similar things. I still don't feel comfortable giving "romantic" gifts to my lover, so I usually just leave them somewhere around the house where I think he will find them. When you combine this with my extremely forgetful nature, you can often end up with gifts being stowed away in various corners, completely forgotten, for months on end before one of us happens upon them. :D

My mother is no whore.

She is a virgin.

she must of had some weird sex to conceive you yet still be a virgin:confused:

:eek: Six months of your earnings? What if you're a doctor or attorney or something? You should spend $50,000 on a piece of jewelry? I'd be seriously afraid to ever wear something that expensive... what if I dropped it, or broke it, or lost it or something?

yeah well what about donald trump?? think of the ring he'd have to buy. and conisidering how often he gets married...

if you cant trust debeers to give you guidance on how much to spend who can you trust?

Hehe, I do very similar things. I still don't feel comfortable giving "romantic" gifts to my lover, so I usually just leave them somewhere around the house where I think he will find them. When you combine this with my extremely forgetful nature, you can often end up with gifts being stowed away in various corners, completely forgotten, for months on end before one of us happens upon them. :D

Yeah, no good at that typically romantic stuff. I'm actually dreading the day when I finally propose to her. I've gotta come up with some simpleton way to do it. :D

Hehe, I do very similar things. I still don't feel comfortable giving "romantic" gifts to my lover, so I usually just leave them somewhere around the house where I think he will find them. When you combine this with my extremely forgetful nature, you can often end up with gifts being stowed away in various corners, completely forgotten, for months on end before one of us happens upon them. :D

I don't know if I've ever bought my fiancee what most peole would call a "romantic" gift. He's really not interesting in most of the stuff that would qualify. Probably the most romantic gift I've gotten him was a book that cost me all of $20 + shipping. It wasn't romantic because the book itself was. It was simply that he wasn't expecting it at all. He had mentioned to me about a month earlier that he had all of the autographs he really wanted, except for Neil Gaiman's. So I went about finding said autograph. And the only book he didn't already have that I could get with the autograph was in paperback. So he's now got an autographed copy of Smoke and Mirrors in paperback. ((And he hoards it, let me tell you. =)

Come to think of it, a lot of our gifts to each other have been books - and quite often Gaiman books. With two of Gaiman's childrens' books, we've spent an evening or two passing it back and forth, reading it to each other. May not sound like much, but we both quite enjoyed it. =)

Ok, I'll stop rambling now.

I don't know if I've ever bought my fiancee what most peole would call a "romantic" gift. He's really not interesting in most of the stuff that would qualify. Probably the most romantic gift I've gotten him was a book that cost me all of $20 + shipping. It wasn't romantic because the book itself was. It was simply that he wasn't expecting it at all. He had mentioned to me about a month earlier that he had all of the autographs he really wanted, except for Neil Gaiman's. So I went about finding said autograph. And the only book he didn't already have that I could get with the autograph was in paperback. So he's now got an autographed copy of Smoke and Mirrors in paperback. ((And he hoards it, let me tell you. =)

Come to think of it, a lot of our gifts to each other have been books - and quite often Gaiman books. With two of Gaiman's childrens' books, we've spent an evening or two passing it back and forth, reading it to each other. May not sound like much, but we both quite enjoyed it. =)

Ok, I'll stop rambling now.
Well, there's a reason I put "romantic" in scare quotes.

Romantic gifts of recent years have included:

-Foam Hulk fists that make grunting noises when you punch things with them
-A mix CD of punk songs, entitled, "You Should Already Have These, You Poser."
-Back issues of What If? comics
-25-pound hand weights

Last Valentine's Day we were sitting around playing videogames, and I turned to my beloved and said, "You know, I was walking home today and I passed this guy selling roses, and I thought about getting one for you. I decided not to bother, though, because I know that it's the thought that counts."

For my romantic impudence, I received a sound thrashing in Super Smash Bros.

Well, any of you all are welcome to buy me some nice sparkly diamonds, but that's no guarantee of anything in return you know.

Honestly, I don't really understand the idea that diamonds are particularly romantic, especially since they're so often presented as some sort of catch-all that every woman will love. Me, I think a romantic gift is one that's meaningful to you and your partner. One of the most romantic gifts I've ever been given was, and I say this in all seriousness, a plain, regular-sized Hershey's chocolate bar my then-boyfriend picked up at a gas station on his way over to my apartment. I wouldn't have traded that cheap, chalky chocolate for a dozen diamond necklaces.

Don't worry...as women start making better coin than some men, there will be commercials about wives buying their husbands expensive muscle cars.

...I actually saw a commercial a while back in which a wife bought her husband a sports car for Christmas. I was rather horrified by the idea of anyone buying a car without consulting the other person paying the bills.

(On the other hand, I've never so much as heard of Jared's; I guess they don't exist in my area.)

What's the point of diamonds anyways? Why not use something like peridot. That doesn't burn and it's really cool under light. Is it value? Because rubies are more expensive, and diamonds only cost as much as they do now because of artificial constraints.

There was one commercial (I think it was a Master Card commercial) where it does the whole listing price thing, and it was talking about a newly engaged couple. and the price of the ring was $9,000!! There's no way in Hell I'm spending $9,000 on a ring! Especially since divorce is so common nowadays.

I hate the Jared commercials too.

Overpriced pieces of jewelry.....

i wouldn't spend 9 grand on a ring even if i was bill gates.
i would rather give it to charity if i had that kind of money to blow on shiney objects that did or accomplished nothing.(i'll buy her a harley or a car)
and i certainly would not marry any women that would want a 9000.00 shiny object.
i know it is romantic,and the blood diamond stuff aside,a real women to me,would be pissed at me for wasting my money on bullshit when we could use it for a downpayment on a home.if we were poor.
if we were rich,it would be silly.

i swear before all that is holy and right..lol...i could be a billionaire,and will never spend more then 500.00 on a watch or any jewelry.for myself or anybody..and if you think i am not romantic..then i aint your guy.

edit:

before i get yelled at,i think art belongs in museams,for everyone...so art is out as far as the shiny object goes.
and as far as beautiful cars or furniture,or boats or whatever tickles your fancy goes...well they serve some purpose dont they.

jewelry and private art exists to allow smug rich people to feel self important and above the unwashed masses.

same as ferraris(i want one)but at least i can use it...or someone else.

I don't fuck/have sex. Never have, never will.

...what?

i wouldn't spend 9 grand on a ring even if i was bill gates.
i would rather give it to charity if i had that kind of money to blow on shiney objects that did or accomplished nothing.(i'll buy her a harley or a car)
and i certainly would not marry any women that would want a 9000.00 shiny object.
i know it is romantic,and the blood diamond stuff aside,a real women to me,would be pissed at me for wasting my money on bullshit when we could use it for a downpayment on a home.if we were poor.
if we were rich,it would be silly.

i swear before all that is holy and right..lol...i could be a billionaire,and will never spend more then 500.00 on a watch or any jewelry.for myself or anybody..and if you think i am not romantic..then i aint your guy.

I just think you're full of yourself. "I certainly would not marry any woman that would want a $9000 shiny object?" Who's being the shallow one now, judging people on what they like and whatnot and not the quality of their character? I like nice things. Does it make me a bastard, secret? Does it somehow make me more shallow than people who don't like nice things?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v0Av3ocF_A

The end.

Then you'd better pay up to replace it. :p
Even more reason not to wear it in the first place, no?

Or just buy me some beers. ;)
Hahaha I'm sure that would go over really well. "Honey, I lost the engagement ring that you spent all that money on. But don't worry, I'm going to go buy some beers for this other guy to make up for it!" ;)

yeah well what about donald trump?? think of the ring he'd have to buy. and conisidering how often he gets married...

if you cant trust debeers to give you guidance on how much to spend who can you trust?
Do they even make rings that expensive?? What the heck is the point? There's only so much metal and gems you can carry around on your hand before it starts to look ridiculous...

I wouldn't buy a diamond from that fat-ass Jared unless he threw in like a hundred free subs.

This kind of reminds me of that Family Guy episode that had a de Beers commercial.

The tag line was "She'll practically have to." I'll let you make your own assumption on what the visual context was.

some women seem to value the ring far more than the fiance. just as they obsess over the wedding but give no thought to the marriage that comes after.

i supppose it would be a good test for a man to give his beloved a small diamond. if she refuses to marry him because of it, he's well rid of her.


hmmmm.....pretty good point.

...what?

You haven't heard? Plutonian Empire has decided he's permanently virginified. He just doesn't want sex anymore.

You haven't heard? Plutonian Empire has decided he's permanently virginified. He just doesn't want sex anymore.

Acknowledging that you will remain a virgin for the rest of your life is not the same thing as "deciding" it.

Sorry, that was a mean thing to say, especially since I barely know you psychos, but it just seemed so appropriate.

No... there was a decision. It was decided by a unanimous vote of all human females. :p

Yes, but Zarakon had implied that TPF had decided it for himself, which was obviously impossible.

Acknowledging that you will remain a virgin for the rest of your life is not the same thing as "deciding" it.

Sorry, that was a mean thing to say, especially since I barely know you psychos, but it just seemed so appropriate.

No... there was a decision. It was decided by a unanimous vote of all human females. :p

Yes, but Zarakon had implied that TPF had decided it for himself, which was obviously impossible.

No, he did. He's in his twenties, and still a virgin. So his sex drive just sorta...keeled over and died.

Hey, TPF, it's just like high school except now you can read what people are saying behind your back!

I just think you're full of yourself. "I certainly would not marry any woman that would want a $9000 shiny object?" Who's being the shallow one now, judging people on what they like and whatnot and not the quality of their character? I like nice things. Does it make me a bastard, secret? Does it somehow make me more shallow than people who don't like nice things?

i would never presume to know you or your tastes.
i did say i would love to have a ferrari,and thats pretty conspicous (sp)consumption...i think you missed my point.
i was simply stating that to me...a diamond/shiny object has no value to me,as it does nothing tangible.
a ferrari on the other hand goes really really fast.
a diamond goes zero to 60 in?
a piece of artfully finished furniture allows me to sit in comfort and style..i never said i dislike nice things...ever.
i simply stated that to me...diamonds do nothing other then be a shallow status symbol like a cartier watch(which i will never own...no matter my wealth)and that any women i would care to be with forever...would not need an object of no intrinsic value(aside from cutting glass)to be with me.
i would buy her an airplane or a mercedes first.
i was not discounting the value of love and romantic expressions of love..i was just stating that to me..me alone...diamonds are a stupid way to exspress that love.
others may feel different,and if i offended you..i am sorry..not my intent.

diamonds are useless to me,unless i have a glass cutting factory.

again..i may be wrong.

my ideal wife would agree to give the money away to charity..or buy a ferrari.(i'll take a 360 modena..i know it's older now..but i love it)

No, he did. He's in his twenties, and still a virgin. So his sex drive just sorta...keeled over and died.

Hey, TPF, it's just like high school except now you can read what people are saying behind your back!

Can't really comment there. I'm 20 and, I shudder to admit, a virgin.

But this is TPF we're talking about, so it's completely different...right? ;)

I rarely wear jewelry, and have never been a big fan of diamonds. First off.. besides some of the yellow diamonds I've seen, they are just too plain. They are also ridiculously expensive .. and I'd be worried about getting robbed or losing it if I was given one.

Some stones that I do like the looks of and wouldn't mind having some pieces with are amber, opal, jade, coral, tiger-eye, turquoise, jasper and moonstone.

Pearls can be really pretty, but they are expensive and really fancy... unlike the stones I mentioned above that are more 'earthy' or casual and fit me better.

I rarely wear jewelry, and have never been a big fan of diamonds. First off.. besides some of the yellow diamonds I've seen, they are just too plain. They are also ridiculously expensive .. and I'd be worried about getting robbed or losing it if I was given one.

Some stones that I do like the looks of and wouldn't mind having some pieces with are amber, opal, jade, coral, tiger-eye, turquoise, jasper and moonstone.

Pearls can be really pretty, but they are expensive and really fancy... unlike the stones I mentioned above that are more 'earthy' or casual and fit me better.


i love turquoise...and jade.
and i am pretty earthy..lol

Can't really comment there. I'm 20 and, I shudder to admit, a virgin.

But this is TPF we're talking about, so it's completely different...right? ;)

we'll need pictures. sexy pictures.

we'll take a vote and let you know.

we'll need pictures. sexy pictures.

we'll take a vote and let you know.

I'm a 5'10 overweight Indian male with thick black hair and a raggedy beard.

Yeah...not exactly prince charming.

Diamonds are nice and shiny, but the DeBeers Corp. monopoly is forever. :) I want to own that company.

I'm a 5'10 overweight Indian male with thick black hair and a raggedy beard.

Yeah...not exactly prince charming.

to some...but to me...lol...me hearts a swimming.
j/k you...
shit...if you like diamonds...go ahead,i never said they were bad...just shiny.

i love turquoise...and jade.
and i am pretty earthy..lol

Cool :p I especially like those stones when they aren't faceted in anything. Like here (http://www.collectorsindex.com/images/c-1978f.jpg) and here (http://www.gemsplusonline.com/14361_DCE.jpg), but they are hard to find. Usually they are more along the lines of this (http://www.ijgroupe.com/ringimages/DRR031_small.jpg) and that (http://www.boneart.co.nz/1120.jpg) (that one is pretty cool, actually). The only jewelry I own atm though is small white gold hoop earrings and a white gold blue star sapphire ring.

lol diamonds are evil because they are mined by slaves

and women are whores for accepting diamonds.

I'm a 5'10 overweight Indian male with thick black hair and a raggedy beard.

Yeah...not exactly prince charming.


that, my friend, is for US to decide. nothing of what you wrote is a disqualifier.

Hah. Funniest thread all week. :p

lol diamonds are evil because they are mined by slaves

and women are whores for accepting diamonds.
Eh, get back to mining diamonds you! The clock's ticking and I ain't getting any richer...

Cool :p I especially like those stones when they aren't faceted in anything. Like here (http://www.collectorsindex.com/images/c-1978f.jpg) and here (http://www.gemsplusonline.com/14361_DCE.jpg), but they are hard to find. Usually they are more along the lines of this (http://www.ijgroupe.com/ringimages/DRR031_small.jpg) and that (http://www.boneart.co.nz/1120.jpg) (that one is pretty cool, actually). The only jewelry I own atm though is small white gold hoop earrings and a white gold blue star sapphire ring.


i really have nothing against girls being pretty.....accruetrements and all...shit i am listening to rem...shiny happy people...if it makes you happy...god bless you.
it just doesn't do it for me...
i like you cause i like you..


shiney happy people holding hands......it's good for me.

maybe the song influenced me?

i'm sorry if you like diamonds,and i was a jerk....not my intent...i just think they are stupid and people die for them....


how about the stones song....play with fire?

they mention diamonds in that song....


i'm sorry..if you like diamonds,i should just agree with that fact and that is that.

nothing wrong with wanting to be treated special....my bad.


enjoy them.

Hah. Funniest thread all week. :p
Indeed, sadly it says a lot about NSG.:(

Yes, but Zarakon had implied that TPF had decided it for himself, which was obviously impossible.
Lol, what's with the "F"? :confused:
No... there was a decision. It was decided by a unanimous vote of all human females. :p
QFT :(

Seriously. Who comes up with these commercials?

Jareds are the worst of the lot. Im sure youve seen them (if you live in the US, at least).
Basically Mr. Good Husband goes to Jareds and buys his wife/whore a nice assortment of diamonds mined by 12 year olds in Africa (AT LOW LOW PRICES), then when he arrives home everybody goes:
"ZOMG HE WENT TO JAREDS!"
And Mr. Bad Husband gets a nasty look from his wife/shrew.

This is quite possibly worse than a certain Digiorno pizza commercial Im not even going to mention.

In any case, lets all hope and pray (or not, since this IS NS general) that TV stays wrong.
"HE went to Jared's!"
" 'HE went to Jared's!' "
"He went to Jared's!"
"He went to Jared's."

Anyone who knows the commercial I refer to will get the exact phrasing of each of those statements. Holy FUCK I hate those commercials too. I hate diamonds. You know what? Anyone I propose to is getting a ring with their birthstone on it. Why? Because that just makes more sense.

I hate diamonds. You know what? Anyone I propose to is getting a ring with their birthstone on it. Why? Because that just makes more sense.Wouldn't it make even more sense to actually talk to the woman you are proposing to ahead of time, and find out what stones she is partial to? I mean, I don't like engagement rings (don't want to get one or give one), but I thought the idea was that you were supposed to be giving the woman something that she would like.

I've found that about 50% of people don't particularly like their birthstone, and I figure a guy who is proposing would like to have better than 50-50 odds that his partner will like the ring. :D

Wouldn't it make even more sense to actually talk to the woman you are proposing to ahead of time, and find out what stones she is partial to? I mean, I don't like engagement rings (don't want to get one or give one), but I thought the idea was that you were supposed to be giving the woman something that she would like.

I've found that about 50% of people don't particularly like their birthstone, and I figure a guy who is proposing would like to have better than 50-50 odds that his partner will like the ring. :D

Well...okay, I guess you've got a point there. And now that I've read through the thread and noted the Goof's point about a titanium ring, that almost seems like a better way to go. My apologies. I was mostly reacting due to my bitter distaste of diamond commercials.

Well...okay, I guess you've got a point there. And now that I've read through the thread and noted the Goof's point about a titanium ring, that almost seems like a better way to go. My apologies. I was mostly reacting due to my bitter distaste of diamond commercials.
No worries, I don't much care for them, either.

To be honest, I often have unkind thoughts about the people in such commercials. About the men, I find myself thinking, "Dumbass. If you have to buy her love, it's not worth having. And if she can be bought for a ring, she's not worth having in the first place. You got chumped." About the women, its, "Why are you so happy that your daughter has a John? Do you really think her life will be better now that she has successfully prostituted herself for a single pretty bit of metal and rock? If selling herself is the key to her happiness, shouldn't she go pro and not limit herself to a one-time purchase by one John?"

*snip*

You need to have your damn head checked. All women are not whores.

You need to have your damn head checked. All women are not whores.
Meh. If all women are whores, then all men are Johns. And, personally, I think people who buy sex are roughly 1000 gazillion times more pathetic than people who sell it. :D

No worries, I don't much care for them, either.

To be honest, I often have unkind thoughts about the people in such commercials. About the men, I find myself thinking, "Dumbass. If you have to buy her love, it's not worth having. And if she can be bought for a ring, she's not worth having in the first place. You got chumped." About the women, its, "Why are you so happy that your daughter has a John? Do you really think her life will be better now that she has successfully prostituted herself for a single pretty bit of metal and rock? If selling herself is the key to her happiness, shouldn't she go pro and not limit herself to a one-time purchase by one John?"

Oh, I definitely share those thoughts, believe me. I also tend to mock many other commercials. In fact, once, when a Head-On commercial came on, I took a stick of lip-balm and actually applied it to my forehead and then in a Jon Stewart style voice cried out to the T.V. "It's not working!" My parents were not amused, but then they rarely are, since I can't crack a decent joke worth anything.

Oh, I definitely share those thoughts, believe me. I also tend to mock many other commercials. In fact, once, when a Head-On commercial came on, I took a stick of lip-balm and actually applied it to my forehead and then in a Jon Stewart style voice cried out to the T.V. "It's not working!" My parents were not amused, but then they rarely are, since I can't crack a decent joke worth anything.
The ones I talk to the most are those idiot Tag body-spray ones. Scrawny, pasty, unattractive guys spritz this foul-smelling crap on themselves, and suddenly it's raining naked ladies.

Old hat, right? Nothing unusual or remarkable about it.

The thing is, where I live we also have commercials for something called Bodman. Also male products of some kind, these commercials feature the most chiseled, fabulous male bodies I have seen in any TV ad ever. Seriously, you could just get me a looping tape of those adverts, and I would throw out all my Penhouse magazines. Drool.

So now, whenever a Tag ad plays, I respond to them.

"Bodman is having sex right now, and you aren't."

"Tag is very clearly marketed to men. Bodman marketing is targeted at women. Unless you are trying to market yourself to other men, your choice should be clear."

"All the Tag in the world won't stop the Bodmen from kicking your ass."

Yeah, watching TV with me is probably one of the top ten Most Annoying Things In The Universe.

The ones I talk to the most are those idiot Tag body-spray ones. Scrawny, pasty, unattractive guys spritz this foul-smelling crap on themselves, and suddenly it's raining naked ladies.

Old hat, right? Nothing unusual or remarkable about it.

The thing is, where I live we also have commercials for something called Bodman. Also male products of some kind, these commercials feature the most chiseled, fabulous male bodies I have seen in any TV ad ever. Seriously, you could just get me a looping tape of those adverts, and I would throw out all my Penhouse magazines. Drool.

So now, whenever a Tag ad plays, I respond to them.

"Bodman is having sex right now, and you aren't."

"Tag is very clearly marketed to men. Bodman marketing is targeted at women. Unless you are trying to market yourself to other men, your choice should be clear."

"All the Tag in the world won't stop the Bodmen from kicking your ass."

Yeah, watching TV with me is probably one of the top ten Most Annoying Things In The Universe.

They use sexy men to advertise this? (http://www.bodman.com/)

The ones I talk to the most are those idiot Tag body-spray ones. Scrawny, pasty, unattractive guys spritz this foul-smelling crap on themselves, and suddenly it's raining naked ladies.

Old hat, right? Nothing unusual or remarkable about it.

The thing is, where I live we also have commercials for something called Bodman. Also male products of some kind, these commercials feature the most chiseled, fabulous male bodies I have seen in any TV ad ever. Seriously, you could just get me a looping tape of those adverts, and I would throw out all my Penhouse magazines. Drool.

So now, whenever a Tag ad plays, I respond to them.

"Bodman is having sex right now, and you aren't."

"Tag is very clearly marketed to men. Bodman marketing is targeted at women. Unless you are trying to market yourself to other men, your choice should be clear."

"All the Tag in the world won't stop the Bodmen from kicking your ass."

Yeah, watching TV with me is probably one of the top ten Most Annoying Things In The Universe.
Ah, yes, the Tag bodyspray. Oh I hate those commercials, mostly because they make me feel embarrased to be a man at all. It doesn't help that my sister will occasionally mock me when one comes on. :(

As for Bodman, I think I've seen a commercial for a product that may be similiar to or actually be the product you speak of, only with a different name here, just called "Bod." The commericals featured various bare-chested men in different activities while a female voice-over commented with lines like "Tight bod...hard bod!" Piece of crap they were.

Ah, yes, the Tag bodyspray. Oh I hate those commercials, mostly because they make me feel embarrased to be a man at all. It doesn't help that my sister will occasionally mock me when one comes on. :(
I got a free sample in the mail for Tag body wash once, it came with a book of "how to get out of her apartment after a one night stand" only they used less direct language......I gave it to hubby but threw out the book, I hate Tag for that reason. I also hate FHM and all those types of magazines because they always have crappy advice articles in them like "how to have sex with her without making her your girlfriend" and "how to dump her so you can still fuck later" :mad:

Hahaha I'm sure that would go over really well. "Honey, I lost the engagement ring that you spent all that money on. But don't worry, I'm going to go buy some beers for this other guy to make up for it!" ;)


Works for me. ;)

I also hate FHM and all those types of magazines because they always have crappy advice articles in them like "how to have sex with her without making her your girlfriend" and "how to dump her so you can still fuck later" :mad:

Kinda like a reverse Cosmo, eh? :p

Kinda like a reverse Cosmo, eh? :p

I don't like those either. ;)

Kinda like a reverse Cosmo, eh? :p

But with more scantily clad wimminz.

As for Bodman, I think I've seen a commercial for a product that may be similiar to or actually be the product you speak of, only with a different name here, just called "Bod." The commericals featured various bare-chested men in different activities while a female voice-over commented with lines like "Tight bod...hard bod!" Piece of crap they were.
Hehe, those are the ones.

"I want your bod" is what the female voice pants in our versions of those ads.

I love it. It's so cheesy and over-the-top. And drool. So much drool.

They take hot dudes and make them play soccer in the rain, or have them playing guitar at a concert while soaked in sweat, or have them rolling around in the mud getting all dirty...ahhhhhhh, cheesecake. Or is that beefcake? Whatever, it's fucking tasty.

But with more scantily clad wimminz.

Cosmo has its share of those, too, oddly enough.

Cosmo has its share of those, too, oddly enough.

True, but in Cosmo it's(probably) more of a "You should look like this and buy these things" vibe, as opposed to "You should want to sex the face off this" in FHM.

True, but in Cosmo it's(probably) more of a "You should look like this and buy these things" vibe, as opposed to "You should want to sex the face off this" in FHM.

http://209.85.48.8/9854/48/emo/roflma.gif

I'm definitely gonna hafta use that!

Cosmo has its share of those, too, oddly enough.
Which pisses me off, for the record.

As a bisexual, I want there to be at least one magazine that has a 50-50 breakdown of hawt chicks and hawt dudes. All the "men's" magazines are full of naked ladies. All the "women's" magazines are full of naked ladies. I wants me more naked men.

http://209.85.48.8/9854/48/emo/roflma.gif

I'm definitely gonna hafta use that!

I approve.

Hehe, those are the ones.

"I want your bod" is what the female voice pants in our versions of those ads.

I love it. It's so cheesy and over-the-top. And drool. So much drool.

They take hot dudes and make them play soccer in the rain, or have them playing guitar at a concert while soaked in sweat, or have them rolling around in the mud getting all dirty...ahhhhhhh, cheesecake. Or is that beefcake? Whatever, it's fucking tasty.
Proof that sex (and women) is/are elitist. :p

Which pisses me off, for the record.

As a bisexual, I want there to be at least one magazine that has a 50-50 breakdown of hawt chicks and hawt dudes. All the "men's" magazines are full of naked ladies. All the "women's" magazines are full of naked ladies. I wants me more naked men.

I'm sure there's one out there, just not well known. There's a magazine for pretty much everything really. I mean, c'mon, there was a magazine once (don't know if it's still around) called Oral Doggy for people who liked to put stuff on their genitals and have their dogs lick it off. *gags*

Which pisses me off, for the record.

As a bisexual, I want there to be at least one magazine that has a 50-50 breakdown of hawt chicks and hawt dudes. All the "men's" magazines are full of naked ladies. All the "women's" magazines are full of naked ladies. I wants me more naked men.

You're probably gonna have to just buy two magazines.

I'm sure there's one out there, just not well known. There's a magazine for pretty much everything really. I mean, c'mon, there was a magazine once (don't know if it's still around) called Oral Doggy for people who liked to put stuff on their genitals and have their dogs lick it off. *gags*
Well, there's stuff like Playgirl, but those guys are actually more scary than sexy most of the time. Plus, I really want something more middle-of-the-road for male bodies. I mean, if I want to see hawt chicks, I could go for actual porn magazines like Penthouse or Playboy or whatever, but I also could get something more softcore like Maxim or FHM. That's stuff you are allowed to read on the train without being a pervert. But there's not much along those lines for "softcore" pictures of scantily-clad men. It's usually either no manflesh at all, or full-on hardcore nudity.

Well, there's stuff like Playgirl, but those guys are actually more scary than sexy most of the time. Plus, I really want something more middle-of-the-road for male bodies. I mean, if I want to see hawt chicks, I could go for actual porn magazines like Penthouse or Playboy or whatever, but I also could get something more softcore like Maxim or FHM. That's stuff you are allowed to read on the train without being a pervert. But there's not much along those lines for "softcore" pictures of scantily-clad men. It's usually either no manflesh at all, or full-on hardcore nudity.

maybe you should start your own magazine... ;)

You're probably gonna have to just buy two magazines.But I'm already plunking down my allowance money for Cat Fancy!

Which pisses me off, for the record.

As a bisexual, I want there to be at least one magazine that has a 50-50 breakdown of hawt chicks and hawt dudes. All the "men's" magazines are full of naked ladies. All the "women's" magazines are full of naked ladies. I wants me more naked men.

Seconded. SO seconded.

But I'm already plunking down my allowance money for Cat Fancy!

Yeah, my point. There's a magazine for everything. I would bet there's one with that 50/50 mix you're looking for, but you just haven't found it. Cat Fancy...people that subscribe to that scare me.

But I'm already plunking down my allowance money for Cat Fancy!

I'm not sure I want to know what's in Cat Fancy.

Hehe, those are the ones.

"I want your bod" is what the female voice pants in our versions of those ads.

I love it. It's so cheesy and over-the-top. And drool. So much drool.

They take hot dudes and make them play soccer in the rain, or have them playing guitar at a concert while soaked in sweat, or have them rolling around in the mud getting all dirty...ahhhhhhh, cheesecake. Or is that beefcake? Whatever, it's fucking tasty.
Well, at least we know your taste in male appearences. :D

But yes, that's exactly the commercial I speak of. I'd forgotten the "I want your bod" line at the end of the commercials, but those are the ones.

And considering the tone of the conversation, I really hope Cat Fancy is not a furry magazine.

*hopes this hasn't already been posted*

That's nothing. I saw a commercial the other day that pretty much said that you should buy diamonds to stimulate the African economy so they can build schools.

And considering the tone of the conversation, I really hope Cat Fancy is not a furry magazine.

No, it's a magazine for people who are really into cats (no, not in a sexual way). Seriously, if I ever went to a women's place and she had copies of that laying about, I'd be out the door in a heartbeat.

I'm not sure I want to know what's in Cat Fancy.

well you definatly won't want to know what's in munging monthly then:D

maybe you should start your own magazine... ;)
FBBB (For Bottle, By Bottle)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Sex Positions That Will Land You In Intensive Care!!

Championship Celebrity Pillowfight: SEMIFINALS!!

Lose Weight Fast With The New Face-Punching Workout Routine!!

Centerfold Special: Hot People Playing Videogames In The Nude!!

well you definatly won't want to know what's in munging monthly then:D

*pukes*

Hey, i used to have a subscription to cat fancey as a kid! it ran out though. :(

FBBB (For Bottle, By Bottle)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Sex Positions That Will Land You In Intensive Care!!

Championship Celebrity Pillowfight: SEMIFINALS!!

Lose Weight Fast With The New Face-Punching Workout Routine!!

Centerfold Special: Hot People Playing Videogames In The Nude!!

I want a subscription!

Well, at least we know your taste in male appearences. :D
I also have a naked-lady fetish.

I'm quite the pervert.

Hey, i used to have a subscription to cat fancey as a kid! it ran out though. :(

that explains ALOT about you:p

FFNBAFN (For FemiNazis, By A FemiNazi)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Sex Propositions That Will Land You In Intensive Care!!

Championship FemiNazi Pillowfight: SEMIFINALS!!

Lose Men Fast With The New Face-Punching Workout Routine!!

Centerfold Special: Hot FemiNazi's Watching Soap Operas In Burqa's!!
Fixed. ;)

Fixed. ;)

LOL! i've never seen such fine ownage in my life

i take my hat off to you...

LOL! i've never seen such fine ownage in my life

i take my hat off to you...
Thank you! *Bows gracefully*

I also have a naked-lady fetish.

I'm quite the pervert.

Clearly. In some ways it's exciting. In other ways, the vaguely Victorian-esque part of me that finds it uncomfortable to talk about sex wants to hide. Luckily I've grown past that for the most part.

...but what exactly is Cat Fancy?

Plutonian Empire: Hello. Meet me, a male feminist. I'd like to proclaim you as a foolish mysogenist for your statements.

No, it's a magazine for people who are really into cats (no, not in a sexual way). Seriously, if I ever went to a women's place and she had copies of that laying about, I'd be out the door in a heartbeat.

you dont like cats?

it seems to me that a woman having a cat magazine shouldnt be a big disqualifier. there are so many worse magazines that a woman can subscribe to. (i was in the magazine section of walmart the other day, the women's mags were horrifying)

Clearly. In some ways it's exciting. In other ways, the vaguely Victorian-esque part of me that finds it uncomfortable to talk about sex wants to hide. Luckily I've grown past that for the most part.

...but what exactly is Cat Fancy?

Plutonian Empire: Hello. Meet me, a male feminist. I'd like to proclaim you as a foolish misogynist for your statements.
Fixed your spelling. :p

And no, I'm not a misogynist. I like women. I just hate the FemiNazi ones.

Fixed your spelling. :p

And no, I'm not a misogynist. I like women. I just hate the FemiNazi ones.

Your posts throughout NationStates General show otherwise. You constantly complain about "bitches" never liking you, about how you want a submissive woman who will be at your beck and call and do everything you want her to do as if she were a servant rather than a lover. You are a misogynist and a sexist, a kind of person I am not exactly fond of.

...but what exactly is Cat Fancy?

Click here (http://www.catchannel.com/cfcc_portal.aspx).

Your posts throughout NationStates General show otherwise. You constantly complain about "bitches" never liking you, about how you want a submissive woman who will be at your beck and call and do everything you want her to do as if she were a servant rather than a lover. You are a misogynist and a sexist, a kind of person I am not exactly fond of.
Jeez. Sorry I'm not Mr. Right. :rolleyes:

And the sexism part, your right. I like women, but I fucking hate men. I hate ending up sitting next to them, like in school or on the air plane, and I hate it when the only people who befriend me are men.

Jeez. Sorry I'm not Mr. Right. :rolleyes:

And the sexism part, your right. I like women, but I fucking hate men. I hate ending up sitting next to them, like in school or on the air plane, and I hate it when the only people who befriend me are men.

:mad: i put my hat back on to you sir

if it wasn't for "men" this world would be a horrible place

having said this please don't own me, and if you have to, make it spectacular

Your posts throughout NationStates General show otherwise. You constantly complain about "bitches" never liking you, about how you want a submissive woman who will be at your beck and call and do everything you want her to do as if she were a servant rather than a lover. You are a misogynist and a sexist, a kind of person I am not exactly fond of.

Lol, you might want to un-sig him then.

Lol, you might want to un-sig him then.

You missed the context of the quote in the sig. It was quoted for the lose. ;)

:mad: i put my hat back on to you sir

if it wasn't for "men" this world would be a horrible place

having said this please don't own me, and if you have to, make it spectacular
Sorry. Better to be hated for who I am than loved for who I am not.

LOL! i've never seen such fine ownage in my life

You need to get out more.

For one thing, if he's trying to own feminazis, he should be more careful to ensure that his jokes actually poke fun at feminazis. I mean, "Watching Soaps In Burqa's"? Everybody knows that feminazis shrill about how soaps and burqa's are oppressive symbols of the Man-o-centric Male-ocracy!

Here, let me show you how to snark on feminism:

FFNBFN (For Feminazis By Feminazis)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Positions For Castrating Your Boyfriend!!

Championship Bra-Burning: SEMIFINALS!!!

Lose Weight Fast (Even Though You Totally Don't Need To Because You Are Beautiful Just The Way You Are And Don't Let Any Man Tell You Different, Grrl)!!!

Wymyn Or Wimmin? The Debate Rages On!!

"He Wanted Me To Take His Last Name!" Suburban White Chick Shares Her Harrowing Tale!!

Centerfold Special: Male Oppressors Bound And Gagged, The Way It Oughta Be!!

Sorry. Better to be hated for who I am than loved for who I am not.

i never said i hated you or even disliked you, everyone hates something, in fact everyone hates alot of things

it's nice to meet someone who's open about their hatreds for once

anyway i meant my hats no longer off to you, for i bet somewhere there's a "man" who could own you so badly your entire perception of reality would be destroyed and you would break down and cry for all of eternity and maybe even more after that, i doubt you'll find a woman who can do that, although i've heard runours of one or two which i have a hard time believin tho

You missed the context of the quote in the sig. It was quoted for the lose. ;)

Ah right, it does seem to contain overwhelming levels of nerdiness.

Ah right, it does seem to contain overwhelming levels of nerdiness.

And revolting imagery.

You need to get out more.

For one thing, if he's trying to own feminazis, he should be more careful to ensure that his jokes actually poke fun at feminazis. I mean, "Watching Soaps In Burqa's"? Everybody knows that feminazis shrill about how soaps and burqa's are oppressive symbols of the Man-o-centric Male-ocracy!

Here, let me show you how to snark on feminism:

FFNBFN (For Feminazis By Feminazis)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Positions For Castrating Your Boyfriend!!

Championship Bra-Burning: SEMIFINALS!!!

Lose Weight Fast (Even Though You Totally Don't Need To Because You Are Beautiful Just The Way You Are And Don't Let Any Man Tell You Different, Grrl)!!!

Wymyn Or Wimmin? The Debate Rages On!!

"He Wanted Me To Take His Last Name!" Suburban White Chick Shares Her Harrowing Tale!!

Centerfold Special: Male Oppressors Bound And Gagged, The Way It Oughta Be!!

Coming in the next issue:
"You've castrated him, now what? Testicle disposal tips"

Coming in the next issue:
"You've castrated him, now what? Testicle disposal tips"
"Lose 200 Pounds Over Night: Kill Him In His Sleep!"

Which pisses me off, for the record.

As a bisexual, I want there to be at least one magazine that has a 50-50 breakdown of hawt chicks and hawt dudes. All the "men's" magazines are full of naked ladies. All the "women's" magazines are full of naked ladies. I wants me more naked men.

If you would like to see more men in the magazine then you should get Genre. Good looking half naked men!!

You need to get out more.

For one thing, if he's trying to own feminazis, he should be more careful to ensure that his jokes actually poke fun at feminazis. I mean, "Watching Soaps In Burqa's"? Everybody knows that feminazis shrill about how soaps and burqa's are oppressive symbols of the Man-o-centric Male-ocracy!

Here, let me show you how to snark on feminism:

FFNBFN (For Feminazis By Feminazis)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Positions For Castrating Your Boyfriend!!

Championship Bra-Burning: SEMIFINALS!!!

Lose Weight Fast (Even Though You Totally Don't Need To Because You Are Beautiful Just The Way You Are And Don't Let Any Man Tell You Different, Grrl)!!!

Wymyn Or Wimmin? The Debate Rages On!!

"He Wanted Me To Take His Last Name!" Suburban White Chick Shares Her Harrowing Tale!!

Centerfold Special: Male Oppressors Bound And Gagged, The Way It Oughta Be!!

*wild applause*

well done.

You need to get out more.

For one thing, if he's trying to own feminazis, he should be more careful to ensure that his jokes actually poke fun at feminazis. I mean, "Watching Soaps In Burqa's"? Everybody knows that feminazis shrill about how soaps and burqa's are oppressive symbols of the Man-o-centric Male-ocracy!

Here, let me show you how to snark on feminism:

FFNBFN (For Feminazis By Feminazis)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Positions For Castrating Your Boyfriend!!

Championship Bra-Burning: SEMIFINALS!!!

Lose Weight Fast (Even Though You Totally Don't Need To Because You Are Beautiful Just The Way You Are And Don't Let Any Man Tell You Different, Grrl)!!!

Wymyn Or Wimmin? The Debate Rages On!!

"He Wanted Me To Take His Last Name!" Suburban White Chick Shares Her Harrowing Tale!!

Centerfold Special: Male Oppressors Bound And Gagged, The Way It Oughta Be!!

very skillful dodging of the ownage there, but the speed of his/her attack and the raw style s/he had pulling it off, it was like s/he'd done it a thousand times before and it just demanded respect

whilst your's is impressive in it's assualt on the feminazi's, it lacks the punch line at the end, instead it's funniest line was around the centre meaning it lacked the ascending tri-colon technique commonly used in ownage

"Lose 200 Pounds Over Night: Kill Him In His Sleep!"

"The Sybian: A Girl's Best Friend"

"Lose 200 Pounds Over Night: Kill Him In His Sleep!"

"Male Feminists: Don't be fooled, they're Man-Bastards too"

somewhere there's a "man" who could own you so badly your entire perception of reality would be destroyed and you would break down and cry for all of eternity and maybe even more after that, i doubt you'll find a woman who can do that, although i've heard runours of one or two which i have a hard time believin tho
Men like that are everywhere, trust me, cuz i'm 5'2, so pretty much anyone can own me that badly.

Click here (http://www.catchannel.com/cfcc_portal.aspx).

Ah, I see. "Cat Fancy." Makes sense now.

Khazistan: As I told him in the thread from which the quote originates, I sigged him "for the lose" in that it was meant to embarrass him. Still, it does not appear to work in such a manner, so I shall remove it.

Bottle: I applaud your comeback. Much more skillfully executed than mine, though that's to be expected.

very skillful dodging of the ownage there, but the speed of his attack and the raw style he had pulling it off, it was like he'd done it a thousand times before and it just demanded respect

Darling, it doesn't count as "ownage" if you whip your pistol out super-quick and promptly shoot yourself in the foot.

That's just comedy gold, not ownage. :D


whilst your's is impressive in it's assualt on the feminazi's, it lacks the punch line at the end, instead it's funniest line was around the centre meaning it lacked the ascending tri-colon technique commonly used in ownage
Well darn. I'm not funny enough to impress the "can't use correct plurals or find the period button" crowd. I guess that shuts me up, huh?

I wasn't trying to own feminazi's here. I was trying to own you.
Meh. You and the rest of the Male Oppressors. I burn my bra in your general direction! :D

You need to get out more.

For one thing, if he's trying to own feminazis, he should be more careful to ensure that his jokes actually poke fun at feminazis. I mean, "Watching Soaps In Burqa's"? Everybody knows that feminazis shrill about how soaps and burqa's are oppressive symbols of the Man-o-centric Male-ocracy!

Here, let me show you how to snark on feminism:

FFNBFN (For Feminazis By Feminazis)

First edition features:

The Top Ten Positions For Castrating Your Boyfriend!!

Championship Bra-Burning: SEMIFINALS!!!

Lose Weight Fast (Even Though You Totally Don't Need To Because You Are Beautiful Just The Way You Are And Don't Let Any Man Tell You Different, Grrl)!!!

Wymyn Or Wimmin? The Debate Rages On!!

"He Wanted Me To Take His Last Name!" Suburban White Chick Shares Her Harrowing Tale!!

Centerfold Special: Male Oppressors Bound And Gagged, The Way It Oughta Be!!
I wasn't trying to own feminazi's here. I was trying to own you.

I wasn't trying to own feminazi's here. I was trying to own you.

http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/failure.jpg

http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/failure.jpg

Demotivators=win

Meh. You and the rest of the Male Oppressors. I burn my bra in your general direction! :D

Wooooo, take it off!

Meh. You and the rest of the Male Oppressors. I burn my bra in your general direction! :D
*Farts in your direction*

FROOM! :D

Yes, I'm a pyromaniac. :D

Demotivators=win

You had to know I had image spam ready for that. ;)

http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/failure.jpg
Good answer. We also would have accepted:
http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/humiliation.jpg

Darling, it doesn't count as "ownage" if you whip your pistol out super-quick and promptly shoot yourself in the foot.

That's just comedy gold, not ownage. :D

actually it counts as ownage of the self so it's still ownage, and i see it as more of an attack on your individual character than an attack on feminazi's in general, and in that way i believe it worked well


Well darn. I'm not funny enough to impress the "can't use correct plurals or find the period button" crowd. I guess that shuts me up, huh?

:( now that's just low, it's not that i can't use correct grammar or that i lack the capabilities, i just see it as an unnecessary detail, that many people use as a distraction of some sort during internet arguments since it has little relevance to the topic

Good answer. We also would have accepted:
http://images.despair.com/products/demotivators/humiliation.jpg

Outstanding! :D

"Male Feminists: Don't be fooled, they're Man-Bastards too"

:(

That saddens me in a way few could understand.

:(

That saddens me in a way few could understand.

Join us Kyronea, embrace your true nature as a Man-Bastard.

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Ok, fine. I'll shut up. :p

Ok, fine. I'll shut up. :p

you just got pwned

that was a basic strategy they applied as a defense, making jokes of your arguments and of the stereotype

shame on you, i put two hats on to you now:mad:

Join us Kyronea, embrace your true nature as a Man-Bastard.

Never!

Never!

Pffft, you'll be cleaning our kitchens come the revolution.

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ohmygod that made me laugh!

you just got pwned

that was a basic strategy they applied as a defense, making jokes of your arguments and of the stereotype

shame on you, i put two hats on to you now:mad:
Sorry. I'm a slow learner. :(
Never!
Awww, please join! It's fun being a man-bastard! :D

Pffft, you'll be cleaning our kitchens come the revolution.

...I do that regardless. I also cook, if that surprises you.

...I do that regardless. I also cook, if that surprises you.

Yes, I thought you were a student, and as such incapable of doing anything more than boiling water or making toast.

Sorry. I'm a slow learner. :(


all humans use reason simply to back up their emotional responses to things, thus all arguments are about emotions and feelings rather than logic, plus logic is a means without an ends by itself

anyway point is a basic strategy when arguing with someone, is (if you have more friends) just to get everyone to point and laugh at them or some equivalent such as making jokes about them, this normally destroys their feeling for a short time, thus winning the argument normally

many good responses to it though, but if they simply overwhelm you with laughter you can only really go for the personal attack or the physical attack, that always shuts em up fast. they cant overwhelm you on a forum like this though so shame on you!

all humans use reason simply to back up their emotional responses to things, thus all arguments are about emotions and feelings rather than logic, plus logic is a means without an ends by itself

anyway point is a basic strategy when arguing with someone, is if you have more friends just to get everyone to point and laugh at them or some equivalent such as making jokes about them

many good responses to it though, but if they simply overwhelm you with laughter you can only really go for the personal attack or the physical attack, that always shuts em up fast. they cant overwhelm you on a forum like this though so shame on you!

Lol again, true dat. You need to get you e-peen, i mean posse out and use them to initimidate all you opponents. Only then can you beat them into submissiveness and get them to obey your will! Go for it Plute, should be good for a laugh at least.

Yes, I thought you were a student, and as such incapable of doing anything more than boiling water or making toast.

It was when I was a student that I developed my culinary skills, mate. Hell, playing around in the kitchen was better than studying. ;)

Look, it's true all women are whores(but so are men).
Marrige is whoring(money for sex and priviligies of marrige just makes it whorst).

The initial poster in this thread is just upset becouse he/she wants to call it something else.
I don't care much if sounds negative or positive I just care for what it is.

It's nothing wrong with it. It just means all whores are women( female human beings).

However I have a fashination for "negative" words I think many do (like whore").
Such words are charged with energy and are upsetting.
If think people like to upset people with such words not always becouse they are against something but becouse don't care what people think.
Perhaps becouse people want to resign themselves and just accept
that women are whores?
against

Lol again, true dat. You need to get you e-peen, i mean posse out and use them to initimidate all you opponents. Only then can you beat them into submissiveness and get them to obey your will! Go for it Plute, should be good for a laugh at least.
How the hell am I supposed to exaggerate a 5'5 inch peen? :p

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

...in fact, I'm cooking a soup right now. Must go check on it.

Curse you, you broked my stereotypes. Now I need new ones. :(

And Jolt is time-warping :(

Yes, I thought you were a student, and as such incapable of doing anything more than boiling water or making toast.

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

...in fact, I'm cooking a soup right now. Must go check on it.

all humans use reason simply to back up their emotional responses to things, thus all arguments are about emotions and feelings rather than logic, plus logic is a means without an ends by itself

Projection can be an ugly thing...


anyway point is a basic strategy when arguing with someone, is (if you have more friends) just to get everyone to point and laugh at them or some equivalent such as making jokes about them, this normally destroys their feeling for a short time, thus winning the argument normally

Or you can just point and laugh at them, regardless of the number of friends you've got. :D


many good responses to it though, but if they simply overwhelm you with laughter you can only really go for the personal attack or the physical attack, that always shuts em up fast.

You're new here, aren't you?

The ones I talk to the most are those idiot Tag body-spray ones. Scrawny, pasty, unattractive guys spritz this foul-smelling crap on themselves, and suddenly it's raining naked ladies.

Old hat, right? Nothing unusual or remarkable about it.

The thing is, where I live we also have commercials for something called Bodman. Also male products of some kind, these commercials feature the most chiseled, fabulous male bodies I have seen in any TV ad ever. Seriously, you could just get me a looping tape of those adverts, and I would throw out all my Penhouse magazines. Drool.

So now, whenever a Tag ad plays, I respond to them.

"Bodman is having sex right now, and you aren't."

"Tag is very clearly marketed to men. Bodman marketing is targeted at women. Unless you are trying to market yourself to other men, your choice should be clear."

"All the Tag in the world won't stop the Bodmen from kicking your ass."

Yeah, watching TV with me is probably one of the top ten Most Annoying Things In The Universe.

I think I've seen those ads, and yes the guys are HOT!

How the hell am I supposed to exaggerate a 5'5 inch peen? :p

You're 5'2" with a 5-1/2" pen0r? Get used to your hand.

Look, it's true all women are whores(but so are men).
Marrige is whoring(money for sex and priviligies of marrige just makes it whorst).

The initial poster in this thread is just upset becouse he/she wants to call it something else.
I don't care much if sounds negative or positive I just care for what it is.

It's nothing wrong with it. It just means all whores are women( female human beings).

However I have a fashination for "negative" words I think many do (like whore").
Such words are charged with energy and are upsetting.
If think people like to upset people with such words not always becouse they are against something but becouse don't care what people think.
Perhaps becouse people want to resign themselves and just accept
that women are whores?
against


well ya know, back in the day when women werent allowed to earn their own money, the whole "all women are whores" line worked better.

today, no woman (at least in the west) needs to trade sex for money/security. she is more than capable of earning her own.

that makes the idea that a woman would go gaga over a particularly expenisive bit of jewelry all the more silly. if she is so into diamond bracelets, she will buy it herself and get the one she likes best.

You're 5'2" with a 5-1/2" pen0r? Get used to your hand.
Hey, I know sex and women are elitist. No need to rub it in my face. :fluffle:

And hey, my hand suits me a'plenty. :fluffle:

Look, it's true all women are whores(but so are men).
Marrige is whoring(money for sex and priviligies of marrige just makes it whorst).

If both parties are equally interested in sex, etc, how would the marriage constitute "whoring"?

It seems to me that marriage is only going to involve "whoring" if you marry somebody who doesn't want to fuck you, or if you marry somebody you don't want to fuck. In that situation, the person who wants fucking would have to "buy" sex off the uninterested party.

The easy solution seems to be that you should only marry somebody who wants to fuck you. But maybe I'm missing something here.


The initial poster in this thread is just upset becouse he/she wants to call it something else.
I don't care much if sounds negative or positive I just care for what it is.

It's nothing wrong with it. It just means all whores are women( female human beings).

Wait, but you just said that all people are whores, which would mean that all whores aren't women. Unless you're saying that men aren't people? I'm very confused.


However I have a fashination for "negative" words I think many do (like whore").
Such words are charged with energy and are upsetting.

Using cuss words because you like to shock people is a phase that you will hopefully outgrow some day. But, if not, don't worry! You can still find lucrative careers in the realm of right-wing punditry or shock-jock radio!


If think people like to upset people with such words not always becouse they are against something but becouse don't care what people think.

Or because they want attention and can't get it any other way.


Perhaps becouse people want to resign themselves and just accept
that women are whores?

There are some guys who can't seem to find a single woman willing to fuck them. For such guys, all sex will require that they pay a woman in some way, because no woman will choose to have sex with them of her own free will.

I'm sure it is probably comforting for such guys to tell themselves that all womenz is hoes anyhow. That way they don't have to face the sad fact that they can only get sex by paying for it.

1.Projection can be an ugly thing...


2.Or you can just point and laugh at them, regardless of the number of friends you've got. :D


3.You're new here, aren't you?

1. okay i can see hundreds of different meanings to that statement

2. yea but then you just look stupid, and get the insanity label stamped on your forehead, loose all ya friends, cry, social workers etc. it's not a nice path anyway

3. well it certainly worked on that pluto empire person, though admittedly it is harder to pull off when you are throwing typed words and he seems like a noob

There was one commercial (I think it was a Master Card commercial) where it does the whole listing price thing, and it was talking about a newly engaged couple. and the price of the ring was $9,000!! There's no way in Hell I'm spending $9,000 on a ring! Especially since divorce is so common nowadays.

I hate the Jared commercials too.

Overpriced pieces of jewelry.....

I spent about that much for my wife's engagement ring. The way I look at it. It is probably the most important asset that a woman can own in terms of her happiness. Plus, it gives me a good excuse to buy her "gifts" consisting of brooms, $3 boxes of candy, etc. for a few years so it all works out in the end. However, my secretary thinks that my cheapness after the big engagement ring splurge will probably wind me up in a divorce proceeding so who knows?

Well I think everything with people is about both emotion and reason at the same time.

People's emotions decide what sort of reasoning they are interested in
and what ideas they will get at the moment.

They might just think differently than me and I cannot fully understand what anyone else is thinking when such a person is sweept away in his emotions.

That doesn't mean that person is stupid or more irrational than me.
However in my confusion I could be mislead into thinking he is stupid if I identifying to much with him.

However people are not interested in being smart and focused all the time
and nobody makes good perfect logical judgement when lots of things happens at once.

Almost emotionless persons can be impulsive and emotional people may be totally rigid and careful.

Hope you don't consider this to be spam.

My hopes for all of mankind, that we all might make the best of our lives and
mutually self-benifit for removing our weaknesses.
May we all turn into robots.

Hey, I know sex and women are elitist. No need to rub it in my face. :fluffle:

Get over yourself already.

And hey, my hand suits me a'plenty. :fluffle:

TMI.

And stop with the fucking fluffles!

If i was to consider even buying any that close to thatmoeny i woul of least go and buy it Garrad & co

Well I think everything with people is about both emotion and reason at the same time.

People's emotions decide what sort of reasoning they are interested in
and what ideas they will get at the moment.

They might just think differently than me and I cannot fully understand what anyone else is thinking when such a person is sweept away in his emotions.

That doesn't mean that person is stupid or more irrational than me.
However in my confusion I could be mislead into thinking he is stupid if I identifying to much with him.

However people are not interested in being smart and focused all the time
and nobody makes good perfect logical judgement when lots of things happens at once.

Almost emotionless persons can be impulsive and emotional people may be totally rigid and careful.

Hope you don't consider this to be spam.

My hopes for all of mankind, that we all might make the best of our lives and
mutually self-benifit for removing our weaknesses.
May we all turn into robots.

yea but without emotions what would reason be? the only reason robots function is because of human (emotional) programming

if you have no emotions you dont have any goals, reason is about working a way to a goal, i've never seen a single case where reason has it's own goal

normally reason is about finding happiness and meaning, but it is also used with anger hatred jealousy sadness and all that but in every case it's always an emotion fueling it

so how well you use logic is just how well you can find a means to your emotional goal, nothing more

*i like your name:D *

What a weird turn this thread has taken... http://209.85.48.8/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

Get over yourself already.
:confused:
TMI.
Glad to be of service. :D :fluffle:
And stop with the fucking fluffles!
No. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
I am teh fluffle King! :fluffle:

No. :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:
I am teh fluffle King! :fluffle:


Fluffle online, instead of getting anything IRL. Figures. :rolleyes:

So, basically, a normal day for NSG?

Pretty much, yeah. ;)

well ya know, back in the day when women werent allowed to earn their own money, the whole "all women are whores" line worked better.

today, no woman (at least in the west) needs to trade sex for money/security. she is more than capable of earning her own.

that makes the idea that a woman would go gaga over a particularly expenisive bit of jewelry all the more silly. if she is so into diamond bracelets, she will buy it herself and get the one she likes best.

You have a point but I meant more like that all people are whores.
And it's a lot still pushing for marriage and there is really lots of unfair demands
directed towards me that I should take initiative.


Everything is about what people want and what they exchange for it.
Besides I think women still want men to do errands, to preform for them and take initiative for them.
Also whore has a an emotional energi to it but I grant that sometimes the words makes me sad and I am a man.
"Whore" is also just a symbol of sex.

What a weird turn this thread has taken... http://209.85.48.8/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

So, basically, a normal day for NSG?

How else am I supposed to compensate for a "too-small something"? :p

Just masturbate. It makes everything okay.

Fluffle online, instead of getting anything IRL. Figures. :rolleyes:
How else am I supposed to compensate for a "too-small something"? :p

Kinda like a reverse Cosmo, eh?
I don't like those either. ;)

Does reading them just to laugh at them count as liking them? If so, then I'm guilty. hehe

......
so how well you use logic is just how well you can find a means to your emotional goal, nothing more

*i like your name:D *


We agree about everything:
I like that you like my name.

Like what you said about programing with emotions,
since I spend lots of time learning programing c++ it certainly feels like that.

If you want to discuss philosophy
since I usually loose thise threads.

Lets exchange emails.


Tibianist@hotmail.com.

I got MSN messager.

How else am I supposed to compensate for a "too-small something"? :p

Personali..oh wait...forget it.

Personali..oh wait...forget it.

SCORE! :D

Does reading them just to laugh at them count as liking them? If so, then I'm guilty. hehe
One thing I really loved was this article in Maxim where they made it look like one of those clip-out advice lists from Cosmo, but the article was a list of "facts" about how it's really healthy to give blowjobs. Like how semen is a "fat coagulator"! And consuming semen raises your metabolism by 200 percent! It was a very good spoof of the stupid Cosmo "facts" that they print.

Well, there's stuff like Playgirl, but those guys are actually more scary than sexy most of the time. Plus, I really want something more middle-of-the-road for male bodies. I mean, if I want to see hawt chicks, I could go for actual porn magazines like Penthouse or Playboy or whatever, but I also could get something more softcore like Maxim or FHM. That's stuff you are allowed to read on the train without being a pervert. But there's not much along those lines for "softcore" pictures of scantily-clad men. It's usually either no manflesh at all, or full-on hardcore nudity.

After I first got engaged, I was looking through a lot of the Bridal Magazines to get ideas for dresses (some of the things they try to sell are God-awful by the way). Anyways, there's one company that did an entire ad campaign with naked guys in the pictures. They're all pictures of women in wedding dresses, with a dark background (usually black stairs or something) and a naked guy with a nice body strategically placed so that there's no full monty or mooning. I'm not really sure what it was supposed to mean. Was it supposed to be saying, "If you wear this dress, your more fiancee will turn into a hot guy like this"??

After I first got engaged, I was looking through a lot of the Bridal Magazines to get ideas for dresses (some of the things they try to sell are God-awful by the way). Anyways, there's one company that did an entire ad campaign with naked guys in the pictures. They're all pictures of women in wedding dresses, with a dark background (usually black stairs or something) and a naked guy with a nice body strategically placed so that there's no full monty or mooning. I'm not really sure what it was supposed to mean. Was it supposed to be saying, "If you wear this dress, your more fiancee will turn into a hot guy like this"??
I totally don't understand that ad campaign either...









...but they've got me sold! :D

After I first got engaged, I was looking through a lot of the Bridal Magazines to get ideas for dresses (some of the things they try to sell are God-awful by the way). Anyways, there's one company that did an entire ad campaign with naked guys in the pictures. They're all pictures of women in wedding dresses, with a dark background (usually black stairs or something) and a naked guy with a nice body strategically placed so that there's no full monty or mooning. I'm not really sure what it was supposed to mean. Was it supposed to be saying, "If you wear this dress, your more fiancee will turn into a hot guy like this"??

I hope so. It'd be sweet to have my gf don a dress and instantly cause me to have a hot bod. :D

I hope so. It'd be sweet to have my gf don a dress and instantly cause me to have a hot bod. :D
Huh, you know, that's a good point. That ad campaign would work for guys, too! "Sure, your woman wants to spend your life savings on a dress she's gonna wear once, but if you let her buy it you will magically transform into a rugged male model!"

Huh, you know, that's a good point. That ad campaign would work for guys, too! "Sure, your woman wants to spend your life savings on a dress she's gonna wear once, but if you let her buy it you will magically transform into a rugged male model!"

I am suddenly a white Tyrese! :D

Personali..oh wait...forget it.
SCORE! :D
Best laugh I've had so far today! :D

You have a point but I meant more like that all people are whores.
And it's a lot still pushing for marriage and there is really lots of unfair demands
directed towards me that I should take initiative.


Everything is about what people want and what they exchange for it.
Besides I think women still want men to do errands, to preform for them and take initiative for them.
Also whore has a an emotional energi to it but I grant that sometimes the words makes me sad and I am a man.
"Whore" is also just a symbol of sex.

whore is a cynical word that suggests that there can never be a free exchange of sexuality between people. that there is always some fee involved.

while that is still often true, i think that we should strive for better than that.

After I first got engaged, I was looking through a lot of the Bridal Magazines to get ideas for dresses (some of the things they try to sell are God-awful by the way). Anyways, there's one company that did an entire ad campaign with naked guys in the pictures. They're all pictures of women in wedding dresses, with a dark background (usually black stairs or something) and a naked guy with a nice body strategically placed so that there's no full monty or mooning. I'm not really sure what it was supposed to mean. Was it supposed to be saying, "If you wear this dress, your more fiancee will turn into a hot guy like this"??
I remember those. One of my coworkers is engaged, and showed me that ad campaign. Ah yes. Impression Bridal (http://www.impressionbridal.com/catalog.php?cat=22&im_id=24&page=20), she says.

She also wants to know if the dress comes with the guy. :p

I hope so. It'd be sweet to have my gf don a dress and instantly cause me to have a hot bod. :D

yes but to get her to put on THAT dress, you have to propose.

would it be enough incentive?

SCORE! :D

Best laugh I've had so far today! :D

*bows*

yes but to get her to put on THAT dress, you have to propose.

would it be enough incentive?

Nah, not really. I'm quite content with the body I've got now. :p

I remember those. One of my coworkers is engaged, and showed me that ad campaign. Ah yes. Impression Bridal (http://www.impressionbridal.com/catalog.php?cat=22&im_id=24&page=20), she says.

She also wants to know if the dress comes with the guy. :p

wow. that ad campaign could get ME to buy bridal magazines!

well ya know, back in the day when women werent allowed to earn their own money, the whole "all women are whores" line worked better.

today, no woman (at least in the west) needs to trade sex for money/security. she is more than capable of earning her own.

that makes the idea that a woman would go gaga over a particularly expenisive bit of jewelry all the more silly. if she is so into diamond bracelets, she will buy it herself and get the one she likes best.

....except for the whole surprise thing. I love surprises! =)

So I buy him his relatively expensive stuff and he buys me my relatively expensive stuff even though we share all our money anyways. It's the surprise factor that really matters. =)

One thing I really loved was this article in Maxim where they made it look like one of those clip-out advice lists from Cosmo, but the article was a list of "facts" about how it's really healthy to give blowjobs. Like how semen is a "fat coagulator"! And consuming semen raises your metabolism by 200 percent! It was a very good spoof of the stupid Cosmo "facts" that they print.

LOL!

I actually really enjoyed Maxim the couple of times I read it. A friend of mine had a gender studies class that required her to do something she associated with the other gender in public, and then write an essay about it. So she got a copy of Maxim and read it in fairly public areas - only to find that she really enjoyed it. You wouldn't believe how many people came up and asked her if she knew it was a "men's magazine". Of course, after she showed all the girls who lived on her hall the article about how to give a backrub that would help with menstrual cramps, everyone wanted to read it. =)


Huh, you know, that's a good point. That ad campaign would work for guys, too! "Sure, your woman wants to spend your life savings on a dress she's gonna wear once, but if you let her buy it you will magically transform into a rugged male model!"

hehe


I remember those. One of my coworkers is engaged, and showed me that ad campaign. Ah yes. Impression Bridal, she says.

She also wants to know if the dress comes with the guy.

Yup, that's it. I was just looking through them to get ideas, since my aunt was making my dress. I wanted to ask her, "Hey, if you make a dress like this, do you make the guy, too?" =)

How else am I supposed to compensate for a "too-small something"? :p

Amazingly enough, penises in pornography are not average. Average is 5.5 inches.

Amazingly enough, penises in pornography are not average. Average is 5.5 inches.
So women prefer "better than average" then. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

So women prefer "better than average" then. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

No, porn prefers "better than average." Everything is over-the-top in porn, and since the guys in (straight) porn are usually not very attractive, large penis size seems to be the main qualifier.

So women prefer "better than average" then. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

how would you know?

So women prefer "better than average" then. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:

And I bet you prefer larger than average breasts.

And I bet you prefer larger than average breasts.
Hypocrisy ftw. :p

I like larger breasts, yes. But I don't go outta my way for them, unlike girls do with bigger penii. :rolleyes:

Hypocrisy ftw. :p

I like larger breasts, yes. But I don't go outta my way for them, unlike girls do with bigger penii. :rolleyes:

do you live in some alternate universe where men keep their erect penis on display?

Hypocrisy ftw. :p

I like larger breasts, yes. But I don't go outta my way for them, unlike girls do with bigger penii. :rolleyes:

The plural of penis is penes or penises, not penii. And to claim that girls go out of their way for larger penises is utter bullshit. For one, they can't tell until the guy has his pants off. You, on the other hand, can tell the size of a woman's breasts. I'm willing to bet that you are far more influenced by a woman's breast size than women are by a man's penis size.

do you live in some alternate universe where men keep their erect penis on display?

That'd explain why he can't get a date. Everyone's afraid of the freaky flasher guy.