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Hakeka
30-12-2006, 10:01
The world cannot survive as it is. We are spiraling down a treachous path that can only be repaired by a strong ruler who has a vision.

If that's your "vision", then maybe you need glasses. Like, big ones.

:rolleyes:

Oh, and STFU.
Christmahanikwanzikah
30-12-2006, 10:02
Democracy will fade in history and become a bad memory in the face of stronger governments.

actually, if you look at history, democracies crumble into periodical anarchy, then form constitutional monarchies, then monarchies, then are thrown into a period of rebelllion, then form either a form of parliament or federalism, or just repeat the cycle until they become democracies again.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:03
ah. so now were saying "you, you rule... er... this particular portion of the map, and you rule this particular portion of the map," ignoring presently-established political boundaries.

lovely system. and what is this "Imperial Court?"

You are not stating your question clearly. The imperial court is the overall ruling body that passes out international legislation. And unlike the U.N. it will have an actual military to enforce its decrees. The leaders from all five nations and ten generals from every nation will decide how the world should be run. With me at its head.
Europa Maxima
30-12-2006, 10:03
actually, if you look at history, democracies crumble into periodical anarchy, then form constitutional monarchies, then monarchies, then are thrown into a period of rebelllion, then form either a form of parliament or federalism, or just repeat the cycle until they become democracies again.
Rinse, wash and repeat! :)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:05
actually, if you look at history, democracies crumble into periodical anarchy, then form constitutional monarchies, then monarchies, then are thrown into a period of rebelllion, then form either a form of parliament or federalism, or just repeat the cycle until they become democracies again.

Or they continually go through a series of military governments never getting security because the leaders are so incompitant as to be almost non-existent!
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:05
With me at its head.

For the two seconds it'll take for the generals to shoot you apart. Military coups are surprisingly effective.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:06
Rinse, wash and repeat! :)

Dictatorship is the best form of government; because it offers the most stability.
Christmahanikwanzikah
30-12-2006, 10:06
You are not stating your question clearly. The imperial court is the overall ruling body that passes out international legislation. And unlike the U.N. it will have an actual military to enforce its decrees. The leaders from all five nations and ten generals from every nation will decide how the world should be run. With me at its head.

i would toss out the absolute power quote/snip, but thats a given.

so, youre telling me each bloc would just give the same amount of forces equally? i thought this was a peaceful world...

and yes, the UN has a military... mostly backed by US support and funding
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:07
For the two seconds it'll take for the generals to shoot you apart. Military coups are surprisingly effective.

They would be trusted and would support me; I have no fear of assassination because it won't happen.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:09
i would toss out the absolute power quote/snip, but thats a given.

so, youre telling me each bloc would just give the same amount of forces equally? i thought this was a peaceful world...

and yes, the UN has a military... mostly backed by US support and funding

It can't really be called a military, rather a peace keeping force. Pathetic in practice and nature.
Europa Maxima
30-12-2006, 10:09
Dictatorship is the best form of government; because it offers the most stability.
Depends on the economic system it adopts. Warfare/welfare dictatorships such as the NSDAP's are bound to fail, because they need war to fuel their economies. In absence of this, they are doomed. Ultraminimal dictatorships (if such a thing is possible) would have comparitively few problems.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:11
You people are not getting my point through your thick skulls. A peaceful world can only be brought on by the blood of resisters because people are too stubborn to go against what they know is wrong but have grown up with. So they feel compelled to help the resistance and this enevitably brings about their death.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:12
Depends on the economic system it adopts. Warfare/welfare dictatorships such as the NSDAP's are bound to fail, because they need war to fuel their economies. In absence of this, they are doomed. Ultraminimal dictatorships (if such a thing is possible) would have comparitively few problems.

Military dictatorships are the best because you don't have all the civil unrest. Protests should be outlawed. And the people who started them jailed.
Hakeka
30-12-2006, 10:12
They would be trusted and would support me; I have no fear of assassination because it won't happen.

Just spouting the same insane bullshit over and over again. Yeah. Real nice argument there.

Go back to the psych ward, man.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:14
Just spouting the same insane bullshit over and over again. Yeah. Real nice argument there.

Go back to the psych ward, man.

Why should I fear people I trust?
Europa Maxima
30-12-2006, 10:14
Military dictatorships are the best because you don't have all the civil unrest. Protests should be outlawed. And the people who started them jailed.
But again, what economic system would be used? Military dictatorships are usually warlike, which is not particularly conducive to economic growth.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:15
They would be trusted and would support me; I have no fear of assassination because it won't happen.

That't what all those Roman emperors thought before the Praetorian Guard ripped their guts out.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:15
Why should I fear people I trust?

Because the people you trust are the ones that end up killing you.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:16
That't what all those Roman emperors thought before the Praetorian Guard ripped their guts out.

Thats because the roman emporers pissed them off. I like to avoid pissing off people who are my trusted advisors unless absolutly neccessary.
Hakeka
30-12-2006, 10:16
You people are not getting my point through your thick skulls. A peaceful world can only be brought on by the blood of resisters because people are too stubborn to go against what they know is wrong but have grown up with. So they feel compelled to help the resistance and this enevitably brings about their death.

See, thing is, you have no point. You're just ranting about some stupid plan to dominate the world that'd never work anyway.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:17
But again, what economic system would be used? Military dictatorships are usually warlike, which is not particularly conducive to economic growth.

I don't have to go to war. Just spend billions on defence, rendering unemployment dead. why be a bum when you can work in a weapons factory.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:18
See, thing is, you have no point. You're just ranting about some stupid plan to dominate the world that'd never work anyway.

You all have not proven to me that it wouldn't work nor pointed out any flaws that make me feel differently. Some would call me stubborn.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:20
I'm not crazy. But as usual anytime someone comes out with something new. Everybody opposes it until they see that they were wrong all along.
Europa Maxima
30-12-2006, 10:22
I don't have to go to war. Just spend billions on defence, rendering unemployment dead. why be a bum when you can work in a weapons factory.
Where are these billions going to come from? If you think the wealth-creating classes are going to allow you to tax them to death, think again.

Brave New World is the only way of establishing absolute tyranny (for whatever purposes one may espouse). Why? It amounts to complete control over one's life. Warlike dictatorships do not last long, and ones that allow a free-market foster hostile forces within them.
Hakeka
30-12-2006, 10:22
Why should I fear people I trust?

A better question would be: Why shouldn't you fear the people you don't trust?

Even better: If you don't care about your own life, why the fuck do you care about world domination?

You all have not proven to me that it wouldn't work nor pointed out any flaws that make me feel differently. Some would call me stubborn.

I can think of many more things that some would call you, but for now I'll stick with "dumbass".
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:23
Where are these billions going to come from? If you think the wealth-creating classes are going to allow you to tax them to death, think again.

Hitler did it, stalin did it, so why can't I?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:24
A better question would be: Why shouldn't you fear the people you don't trust?

Even better: If you don't care about your own life, why the fuck do you care about world domination?



I can think of many more things that some would call you, but for now I'll stick with "dumbass".

I'm not a dumbass; my view is this world is screwed up and I can fix it. And true peace will come once everyone sees that they are incapable of thinking for themselves and they need my guidance.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:24
Hitler did it, stalin did it, so why can't I?

In case you didn't know, they're dead.
Europa Maxima
30-12-2006, 10:25
Hitler did it, stalin did it, so why can't I?
Hitler failed (the war distracted Germans from the ruins the domestic economy was in anyway).

Stalin? He died, and left a huge mess behind that eventually dissolved into a slightly better mess. Where is the Thousand Year Reich or Stalin's Soviet utopia today?
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:25
Thats because the roman emporers pissed them off. I like to avoid pissing off people who are my trusted advisors unless absolutly neccessary.

That's what the emperors thought. Also, the Praetorian Guard sometimes killed emperors just for the hell of it.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:25
In case you didn't know, they're dead.

They weren't assassinated. Hitler offed himself; and stalin died of natural causes. So what have I to fear? Either I'll kill myself or I'll die of a stroke.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:26
I have a new plan for world domination :-)

step 1)
From behind the scenes, with diplomacy, tact and grace i will assist this maniac in becoming the ruler of the world...

step 2)
due to his trust in me (he has stated a number of times he trusts his advisors implicitly) for organising him to be put in charge he will make me one of his closest advisors.

step 3)
I arrange a small accident that wipes out my entire extended family (who i dont like anyway) thus removing any lever over me...

step 4)
asassinate this maniac, take his place, give the mobs 1/2 what they want, making them happy and sending them away and then move back towards the semblance of freedoms (just rig the votes to keep me in power...)

step 5)
organise a replacement for myself for when i die of old age/accident/betrayal thus making it harder for a random person to replace me... if i think the designated heir is becoming uppity get him "terroristed" thus making it i need a new heir, the people love me/grieve with me and everyone is happy :-)
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:26
They weren't assassinated. Hitler offed himself; and stalin died of natural causes. So what have I to fear? Either I'll kill myself or I'll die of a stroke.

Hitler's empire was annihlated.




Goddamn kids.
Novemberstan
30-12-2006, 10:26
I'm not a dumbass; my view is this world is screwed up and I can fix it. And true peace will come once everyone sees that they are incapable of thinking for themselves and they need my guidance.And thus we enter the world of surreal. What particular brand of glue are you and your buddies sniffing?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:26
That's what the emperors thought. Also, the Praetorian Guard sometimes killed emperors just for the hell of it.

The emporer never really fully trusted the Praetorian guard though; now did they.
Greater Trostia
30-12-2006, 10:27
Okay, seriously now.

This isn't the roleplay forum. If you want to blab about how you're gonna rule the world, do it in International Incidents or NationStates. This is fun and cute and all to observe, but it's gotten old.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:27
And thus we enter the world of surreal. What particular brand of clue are you and your buddies sniffing?

The kind laced with LSD.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:28
I have a new plan for world domination :-)

step 1)
From behind the scenes, with diplomacy, tact and grace i will assist this maniac in becoming the ruler of the world...

step 2)
due to his trust in me (he has stated a number of times he trusts his advisors implicitly) for organising him to be put in charge he will make me one of his closest advisors.

step 3)
I arrange a small accident that wipes out my entire extended family (who i dont like anyway) thus removing any lever over me...

step 4)
asassinate this maniac, take his place, give the mobs 1/2 what they want, making them happy and sending them away and then move back towards the semblance of freedoms (just rig the votes to keep me in power...)

step 5)
organise a replacement for myself for when i die of old age/accident/betrayal thus making it harder for a random person to replace me... if i think the designated heir is becoming uppity get him "terroristed" thus making it i need a new heir, the people love me/grieve with me and everyone is happy :-)


Now this is bullshit!
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:28
The emporer never really fully trusted the Praetorian guard though; now did they.

They did. They had a "it won't happen to me" mentality, just like you.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:29
please... explain why it is more bullshit than your proposal?

(apart from organising your proposal to work)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:29
They did. They had a "it won't happen to me" mentality, just like you.

Emporers were full of themselves anyway . thats why no one liked them and they got killed.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:30
please... explain why it is more bullshit than your proposal?

(apart from organising your proposal to work)

exactly how do you expect me to ever except you now that I know you don't like my NWO
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:32
please... explain why it is more bullshit than your proposal?

(apart from organising your proposal to work)

Because you fold under the pressure of the population. A sign of weakness making them more likly to revolt against you rather than me.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:32
simple...

as you said before - we dont know who you are so we wouldnt know who to oppose... In the same way you dont know who i am... thus who wont you let support you? Or will you just not trust any of your advisors suddenly?

Going by what you said before you have to trust me :-D
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:32
Emporers were full of themselves anyway . thats why no one liked them and they got killed.

GodDAMN, the irony is staggering.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:34
Ah no... you see by leaping out in front of the popular revolt i am not giving in... but taking over and doing what i see is right :-) No surrendering of my visible principles will occur... furthermore you keep a few rights back to hand over later... and by the time you dont have anything you want to give over you can fake an election...
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:34
simple...

as you said before - we dont know who you are so we wouldnt know who to oppose... In the same way you dont know who i am... thus who wont you let support you? Or will you just not trust any of your advisors suddenly?

Going by what you said before you have to trust me :-D

Excellent point. I'll off my advisors every few weeks and get new ones thus demolishing any coups being planned against me. Thats not very good news for you knowing that I might kill you for the hell of it; or because you looked at me wrong.
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 10:35
Excellent point. I'll off my advisors every few weeks and get new ones thus demolishing any coups being planned against me. Thats not very good news for you knowing that I might kill you for the hell of it; or because you looked at me wrong.

Meaning, of course, that your advisors will seek to kill you at every available opportunity.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:35
Ah no... you see by leaping out in front of the popular revolt i am not giving in... but taking over and doing what i see is right :-) No surrendering of my visible principles will occur... furthermore you keep a few rights back to hand over later... and by the time you dont have anything you want to give over you can fake an election...

Weakness would get you killed because no matter what you do no matter how much you give! They all alway want fucking more, they're never happy!
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:36
so you dont trust your advisors?

Thus anyone who becomes an advisor had better start planning a revolt IMMEDIATELY cause they know if they dont they will die, and if they do (successfully) they wont?

Oops?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:36
Meaning, of course, that your advisors will seek to kill you at every available opportunity.

So fuck the advisors since you all seem to be planning on infiltrating my regime in the future I'll make all the decisions myself.
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 10:36
Me and some of my buddies were sitting around; talking about how terrible the world is becoming. So just for fun we have divided up the world as we saw fit, to make the world peaceful. We all chose our own sections and this is the product. Our New World.

Umm. Iran isn't apart of europe. Your world is 1 big empire...Not good.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:37
Weakness would get you killed because no matter what you do no matter how much you give! They all alway want fucking more, they're never happy!


Errr No.

I dont see the people in any first world nation in mass protests for more freedoms... they all seem to think they have enough...
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:37
so you dont trust your advisors?

Thus anyone who becomes an advisor had better start planning a revolt IMMEDIATELY cause they know if they dont they will die, and if they do (successfully) they wont?

Oops?

Are you trying to be funny. Im not laughing.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:38
Errr No.

I dont see the people in any first world nation in mass protests for more freedoms... they all seem to think they have enough...

No matter how much you give. It will not be enough. Take you guys for example I'm offering a perfect world and you will not take it. You avoid it like the plaque!
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:39
not trying to be funny... maybe suceeding by accident tho...

just pointing out the fallicies in the latest proposals...


Oh if you dont have any advisors... who makes the small desicions? (like what days garbage is collected... the price of water... where the new roads go?)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:39
Umm. Iran isn't apart of europe. Your world is 1 big empire...Not good.

Its not one big empire, Iran is part of the european empire. I called it that because its center of power is in berlin germany roughly its center and berlin is in Europe is it not!?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:41
not trying to be funny... maybe suceeding by accident tho...

just pointing out the fallicies in the latest proposals...


Oh if you dont have any advisors... who makes the small desicions? (like what days garbage is collected... the price of water... where the new roads go?)

Thats not the type of things I would need advising about. I doubt a civil engineer who builds roads and bridges will plot to bring about my downfall.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:44
new map
map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/1984_fictious_world_map.png/800px-1984_fictious_world_map.png)
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:45
the person who builds them no...

what about the person who decides where he builds them?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:45
new map
map (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/1984_fictious_world_map.png/800px-1984_fictious_world_map.png)

whats this for?
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 10:46
Its not one big empire, Iran is part of the european empire. I called it that because its center of power is in berlin germany roughly its center and berlin is in Europe is it not!?


Germany is But Iran isn't.:rolleyes:
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:47
the person who builds them no...

what about the person who decides where he builds them?

I can hire people to do that. That doesn't necessarly make them advisors, just emploiees.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:47
Germany is But Iran isn't.:rolleyes:

I called it the european empire because of where its capital is in case you missed that!:mad:
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:48
oh just to bring up something from before... You specifically stated you were not from the USA...

But

Your national Animal is the Bald Headed Eagle and your currency is the penny... looks very american to me :-)
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:48
I can hire people to do that. That doesn't necessarly make them advisors, just emploiees.

Do they make suggestions on where to put things? Or do you make all those decisions? (like where the roads/airports go, collection day for garbage, training for police/military, schooling...)
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 10:49
I called it the european empire because of where its capital is in case you missed that!:mad:


What part of Iran isn't in Europe are you missing? Why put a Non-European nation in a European empire?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:49
oh just to bring up something from before... You specifically stated you were not from the USA...

But

Your national Animal is the Bald Headed Eagle and your currency is the penny... looks very american to me :-)

No; I just like the bald eagle and the euro sucks; and the dollar is used to often. And I have a sense of humor so I chose penny.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:51
Do they make suggestions on where to put things? Or do you make all those decisions? (like where the roads/airports go, collection day for garbage, training for police/military, schooling...)

Yes they do; until they screw up and I have to step in. all except the military and police training. I will decide in that.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:52
What part of Iran isn't in Europe are you missing? Why put a Non-European nation in a European empire?

India isn't in britain; why put a non-british nation in with british empire.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:52
So if they are making suggestions that makes them advisors... Surely?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:53
So if they are making suggestions that makes them advisors... Surely?

Not to me though. I just sit back and watch them do their job, UNTIl the need arises where i need to step in.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:55
so you are watching everyone? all at once?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 10:56
so you are watching everyone? all at once?

why not. Cameras are awefully usefull in a situation like this one. You started it by saying my advisors were not to be trusted.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 10:58
so you never sleep and your watching, closely to prevent revolt, all 2-4 BILLION citizens?
Undbagarten
30-12-2006, 10:58
Dude, I've read every line of this thread and I have to say from the perspective of someone who was shot down and shot down hard; that this is pointless. You screwed up and now you have to suck it up and get on with your life because this is one argument that you won't win.
Undbagarten
30-12-2006, 11:00
If you don't believe me check out European Union, or the Soviet Union born anew. It proves how being uninformed can make you look very, very stupid.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:00
noooo... dont encourage him to leave... im having fun... (mining in eve is sooo boring otherwise)
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:01
India isn't in britain; why put a non-british nation in with british empire.

Because the UK invaded it and took it by force?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:01
If you don't believe me check out European Union, or the Soviet Union born anew. It proves how being uninformed can make you look very, very stupid.

Fuck you undbagarten. I read your thread and thought it was good. You showed weakness and were bit in the ass for it. Like these guys would be if they gave into their populations demands.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:02
Because the UK invaded it and took it by force?

and the difference is. Please enlighten me.
Undbagarten
30-12-2006, 11:04
Cacoron, I think you have lost:( so very sorry. A 10 for effort though. When your wrong, your waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy wrong; not many people can accomplish this.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:05
Cacoron, I think you have lost:( so very sorry. A 10 for effort though. When your wrong, your waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy wrong; not many people can accomplish this.

I'm not wrong. I'm right they're all just to stubborn to see it.
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:07
I'm not wrong. I'm right they're all just to stubborn to see it.

LMFAO!
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:08
They've finnally given up. Because they know I'm right.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:08
LMFAO!

so you did come back, and what the fuck does lmfao mean anyway.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:09
they gave up cause your a moron... (and most went to bed)

Im still here, had to negociate through a couple of jump gates...
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:10
so you did come back, and what the fuck does lmfao mean anyway.


Laughing My Fucking Ass off. Are you new to the internet?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:11
they gave up cause your a moron... (and most went to bed)

Im still here, had to negociate through a couple of jump gates...

How the fuck can you call me a moron. You don't even stop to consider my opinions you just write them off as bad and piss on the ashes.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:11
Laughing My Fucking Ass off. Are you new to the internet?

No; i just was not familier with that acronym.
and fuck you! :upyours:
CthulhuFhtagn
30-12-2006, 11:12
How the fuck can you call me a moron. You don't even stop to consider my opinions you just write them off as bad and piss on the ashes.

Your opinions suck so much considering them will cause the entire planet to be compressed into a singularity.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:13
Your opinions suck so much considering them will cause the entire planet to be compressed into a singularity.

Singularity is good. difference of opinion always causes trouble!
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:15
i call you a moron because when an issue is brought to your attention on this issue you either dismiss it out of hand, or postulate a method of dealing with it that doesnt fit into the framework of what you have previously said... This leads to internal inconsistancies and blantant changes of position with never a retraction or acceptance of error.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:16
I reckon you should just bite him in the face.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:16
i call you a moron because when an issue is brought to your attention on this issue you either dismiss it out of hand, or postulate a method of dealing with it that doesnt fit into the framework of what you have previously said... This leads to internal inconsistancies and blantant changes of position with never a retraction or acceptance of error.

I havn't made an error. You just reach around in the dark for something to be wrong.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:17
I reckon you should just bite him in the face.

I reckon you should shut the fuck up!
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:17
No; i just was not familier with that acronym.
and fuck you! :upyours:


How long before this troll gets banned?
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:18
I havn't made an error. You just reach around in the dark for something to be wrong.

You said you would trust all your advisors and never have anything to fear... then when we postulated a situation where you might be wrong you said fine, just kill them all every few weeks...
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:19
How long before this troll gets banned?

Very long indeed!
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:19
Ummm, shouldn't this forum be a place of love and compassion for your fellow man? Not like, vehement contempt of something some other guy said.

Max Barry would be very dissapointed, I'm sure
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:20
You said you would trust all your advisors and never have anything to fear... then when we postulated a situation where you might be wrong you said fine, just kill them all every few weeks...

I solved the problem hence the reason I said it.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:21
Ummm, shouldn't this forum be a place of love and compassion for your fellow man? Not like, vehement contempt of something some other guy said.

Max Barry would be very dissapointed, I'm sure

I have contempt for the human race. We are unable to break free from our mindless obediounce. JOin me and support the NWO!!
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:24
What's a 'JOin'???
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:25
What's a 'JOin'???

I said Join dipshit.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:28
I completely agree with you there, be it true - I am a dipshit.

I AM DIPSHIT

Thanks man.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:30
I completely agree with you there, be it true - I am a dipshit.

I AM DIPSHIT

Thanks man.

I wish you all would stop mocking me at least I make sense. I read some of that asshole undbagarten's thread its utter shit. Just look up european union and look for the thread European union or the soviet union born anew. Utter mindless bullshit. and he calls me an idiot. Hypocritical asswipe.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:31
I read it to be he told you to join dipshit (or else there would have been a coma). Thus he wants you to join a person called dipshit. Previously he said join him in the NWO... So i can only conclude he is referring to himself as the dipshit.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:32
But you see thats the thing... you dont make sense... you contradict yourself...
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:32
I read it to be he told you to join dipshit (or else there would have been a coma). Thus he wants you to join a person called dipshit. Previously he said join him in the NWO... So i can only conclude he is referring to himself as the dipshit.

my mistake i'll put in the comma next time jack asss, join the NWO and prosper
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:33
Ahhh, yes - Armacor, god who now walks amongst all men, always in search of the truth behing the New World Order.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:33
But you see thats the thing... you dont make sense... you contradict yourself...

give me one good example where I contradict myself. I bet you cant!
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:34
At least I dont change topic on a whim like undbagarten did in his thread. I fucking hate him. Looking down on me like he is sooooooooo much better.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:35
I shouldnt make fun of grammar... its an easy mistake to make :-) (plus i hardly ever bother with the "'", but that call was too easy ;-)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:35
I shouldnt make fun of grammar... its an easy mistake to make :-) (plus i hardly ever bother with the "'", but that call was too easy ;-)

what the hell are you talking about. Why do you care so much about my grammer!
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:38
what the hell are you talking about. Why do you care so much about my grammer!


http://dictionary.reference.com/


Use it.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:39
http://dictionary.reference.com/


Use it.

Why should I. If I can read what I write than everyone else should have no problem!
UnHoly Smite
30-12-2006, 11:40
Why should I. If I can read what I write than everyone else should have no problem!

It's to help you fix your spelling.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:40
give me one good example where I contradict myself. I bet you cant!

Refer Post #62 I already did this.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:41
It's to help you fix your spelling.

my spelling is fine.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:41
Yeah maybe undbagarten is better than you, Cacron.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:42
i dont care about your grammar... i care about my grammar, you should care about your own grammar... A single comma above would have meant that the statement said you were calling someone else a jackass, without it you were calling yourself one.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:42
Yeah maybe undbagarten is better than you, Cacron.

did you even read. I dont believe you read it. Link it so every one else can read it for themselves.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:43
Refer Post #62 I already did this.

I didn't contradict myself.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:44
i dont care about your grammar... i care about my grammar, you should care about your own grammar... A single comma above would have meant that the statement said you were calling someone else a jackass, without it you were calling yourself one.

Somtimes I type to fast. It shouldn't really matter as long as I get my point across.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:45
You said if a specific situation occurs (sit A) do response B

Then you said reponse B was impossible
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 11:46
Correct again Carocon!

It's all true, I should have done that, I should've seen the error of my ways and linked it so that all could see.

The inner voice in my head tells me that I should take a page from the Book of Carocon and get some hot chips into my bloodstream.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:47
You said if a specific situation occurs (sit A) do response B

Then you said reponse B was impossible

Not following; im not going back to look at what I said my computers too slow. remind me of what I said. I still dont think I contradicted myself!
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:47
Correct again Carocon!

It's all true, I should have done that, I should've seen the error of my ways and linked it so that all could see.

The inner voice in my head tells me that I should take a page from the Book of Carocon and get some hot chips into my bloodstream.

what??:confused: :confused:
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacoron View Post
If that did happen, the stronger nations would retaliate against the agressor. Either the agressive nation accept peace or be rendered a non-threat with the use of many nuclear weapons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacoron View Post
the united states of america couldn't conquer china anyway. We dont have the manpower to pulloff such a feat.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacoron View Post
If that did happen, the stronger nations would retaliate against the agressor. Either the agressive nation accept peace or be rendered a non-threat with the use of many nuclear weapons.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacoron View Post
the united states of america couldn't conquer china anyway. We dont have the manpower to pulloff such a feat.

We don't have the manpower, true, but the use of nuclear weapons would render the chinese incapable of waging war.
Armacor
30-12-2006, 11:53
you wrote BOTH of those statements.... page 5


PS you are American... You just said WE dont have the manpower
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 11:57
you wrote BOTH of those statements.... page 5


PS you are American... You just said WE dont have the manpower

No I'm not. I'm gerneralizing the rest of the world and compressing it to us vs. china in this future world.
No I did not contradict myself.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:05
I leave the weekly troll thread for 5 minutes and I get another 10 pages to read :( .... oh well

How the corrupt governments of today do nothing but sit on their asses and get rich.

Like you?

No, idiots who get all high on themselves get corrupted by absolute power.

Like you?

Do you honestly think me insane? Is it such a crazy idea to unite the world under a single banner? What bad would it cause?

You yourself have stated that you would kill anyone who opposed you, I think that qualifies.

Then you and I are on the same side on this point.

"I don't like democracy" =/= "Let's get together and kill people who don't like us"

They would be trusted and would support me; I have no fear of assassination because it won't happen.

Power corrupts, remember? Power can corrupt people even before it is obtained, the mere opportunity to gain power is enough to corrupt people into take that opportunity. Pretty much like your ideas really.

Even better: If you don't care about your own life, why the fuck do you care about world domination?

I was wondering that too? You said that you don't care if we kill you, as long as your order is established or you take us all down with you. WTF is the point of that? While it is true that we don't live in peace, death isn't an alternative that brings peace, I'd rather live in this level of peace than be dead.

Emporers were full of themselves anyway . thats why no one liked them and they got killed.

Like you?

How the fuck can you call me a moron. You don't even stop to consider my opinions you just write them off as bad and piss on the ashes.

Actually I have considered your views. Just like I do with the people like you that come through here and get unanimously shot down because that are bat-shit insane every week. Uniting the world to acheive peace while a nice idea, doesn't work in practice.

How long before this troll gets banned?

Does it matter? We get a new one every week. He's starting to slip into the state of mindless swearing, yelling, random quoting and angry emoticons. He'll die or leave soon. Then we have to wait for the next one. It's the Circle of Life.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:08
I leave the weekly troll thread for 5 minutes and I get another 10 pages to read :( .... oh well



Like you?



Like you?



You yourself have stated that you would kill anyone who opposed you, I think that qualifies.



"I don't like democracy" =/= "Let's get together and kill people who don't like us"



Power corrupts, remember? Power can corrupt people even before it is obtained, the mere opportunity to gain power is enough to corrupt people into take that opportunity. Pretty much like your ideas really.



I was wondering that too? You said that you don't care if we kill you, as long as your order is established or you take us all down with you. WTF is the point of that? While it is true that we don't live in peace, death isn't an alternative that brings peace, I'd rather live in this level of peace than be dead.



Like you?



Actually I have considered your views. Just like I do with the people like you that come through here and get unanimously shot down because that are bat-shit insane every week. Uniting the world to acheive peace while a nice idea, doesn't work in practice.



Does it matter? We get a new one every week. He's starting to slip into the state of mindless swearing, yelling, random quoting and angry emoticons. He'll die or leave soon. Then we have to wait for the next one. It's the Circle of Life.

two words :upyours:
Armacor
30-12-2006, 12:10
well EVE just went down for the night... so im off... been fun - talk tomorrow?
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:12
two words :upyours:

That's not a word... that's an emoticon

Also you probably should have snipped that, quoted less of it, or written a longer reply. :rolleyes:
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:13
what ever I'm done! theres no point in argueing. This thing went dead hours ago! :(
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:14
That's not a word... that's an emoticon

Also you probably should have snipped that, quoted less of it, or written a longer reply. :rolleyes:

what ever! what does it matter!
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:15
what ever I'm done! theres no point in argueing. This thing went dead hours ago! :(

:eek: This one knows when to quit, usually they hold out for at least a few days. And it's not this thread, the whole forum usually goes dead around this time. Does anyone know why?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:18
:eek: This one knows when to quit, usually they hold out for at least a few days. And it's not this thread, the whole forum usually goes dead around this time. Does anyone know why?

Oh, shut up. Sarcasm is retarded and it makes you look stupid! I'm done because im tired of arguing with idiots.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:19
Oh, shut up. Sarcasm is retarded and it makes you look stupid!

Oh, shut up. Megolomania is retarded and it makes you look stupid!

I'm done because im tired of arguing with idiots.

I'm sorry, but you don't have what it takes to be a Generalite.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:19
Because they're not eating they're daily requirement of chips?
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:20
Oh, shut up. Sarcasm is retarded and it makes you look stupid! I'm done because im tired of arguing with idiots.

Pity. I just got here. :(
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:22
Pity. I just got here. :(

I need someone on my side. Join the NWO everyone else is against it for no apparent reason. Its a great idea.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:24
Oh, shut up. Megolomania is retarded and it makes you look stupid!



I'm sorry, but you don't have what it takes to be a Generalite.

I'm am not a megolomaniac, nothing i've said points to that conclusion.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:24
I need someone on my side. Join the NWO everyone else is against it for no apparent reason. Its a great idea.

Give me Jamaica and I'll think about it. :)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:25
Give me Jamaica and I'll think about it. :)

Fine, take jamaica. I was going to blow it up anyway. Maybe you can put it to better use.
Lacadaemon
30-12-2006, 12:25
Any 'new' world should be made of rubber and have frequent earthquakes.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:25
I mindlessley agree with Carocon for his promise of a better tomorrow
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:26
I need someone on my side. Join the NWO everyone else is against it for no apparent reason. Its a great idea.

We have given almost 30 pages of good reason, you've ignored them, then accused us of ignoring your points. Such attempting manipulation is characteristic troll behaviour, unfortunately for trolls, they assume that people are stupid enough not to notice.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:28
We have given almost 30 pages of good reason, you've ignored them, then accused us of ignoring your points. Such attempting manipulation is characteristic troll behaviour, unfortunately for trolls, they assume that people are stupid enough not to notice.

Most people are stupid enough not to notice. And I didn't ignore your reasons. I just disproved them.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:28
I mindlessley agree with Carocon for his promise of a better tomorrow

Sarcasim!!
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:29
Any 'new' world should be made of rubber and have frequent earthquakes.

I approve. :)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:30
I approve. :)

I dont get the relevance of this post.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:32
I dont get the relevance of this post.

Relevance is overrated. :)
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:34
I don't understand the point of making such a thread about such a small insignificant map of a new world and then beefing it up to some over-the-top shitfight of an argument for almost no other reason other than the fact that two people just don't get along!!!! :headbang:
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:34
Relevance is overrated. :)

no its not. though everyone who has posted thus far has spit at relevance and wrote posts with absolutly no reasoning behind them.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:35
I don't understand the point of making such a thread about such a small insignificant map of a new world and then beefing it up to some over-the-top shitfight of an argument for almost no other reason other than the fact that two people just don't get along!!!! :headbang:

Now what are you talking about?
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:36
I dont get the relevance of this post.

You can't deal with sarcasm, irrelevance or people not wanting to be killed by you. What the hell are you doing on NSG, maybe the RP forums would be more your thing.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:37
no its not. though everyone who has posted thus far has spit at relevance and wrote posts with absolutly no reasoning behind them.

I'm baking muffins. :)
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:37
no its not. though everyone who has posted thus far has spit at relevance and wrote posts with absolutly no reasoning behind them.

We do nought but follow thy example, master of my world.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:38
You can't deal with sarcasm, irrelevance or people not wanting to be killed by you. What the hell are you doing on NSG, maybe the RP forums would be more your thing.

I'm a serious person, with a serios idea for world unity and no one agrees and I dont see why.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:39
I'm baking muffins. :)

WHAT THE FUCK !!
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:39
We do nought but follow thy example, master of my world.

I have very good reasoning. YOu just dont see it.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:39
Deep down, I reckon that all of us here believe that this is the best thread of the centrury.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:40
Deep down, I reckon that all of us here believe that this is the best thread of the centrury.

You all must know deep down that I am right. You just have to see it, I hope you do eventually.
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:44
WHAT THE FUCK !!

Lemon with chocolate chips. They smell delightful. They'll be done soon. :)
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:45
Lemon with chocolate chips. They smell delightful. They'll be done soon. :)

Great, I'll grab the weed so at least we'll be hungry when the shitty muffins get done. Maybe I wont even notice how bad virtual muffins are.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:48
I'm a serious person, with a serios idea for world unity and no one agrees and I dont see why.
WHAT THE FUCK !!
I have very good reasoning. YOu just dont see it.
You all must know deep down that I am right. You just have to see it, I hope you do eventually.

This is Nationstates General Forum, we deal with this sort of idiotic bullshit every day. Do you want links to the troll-thread-of-the-week from the last few weeks so you can see that this happens all the time?

This is Nationstates General Forum, if you can't deal with sarcasm, spamming, joking around, irrelevance, trolls and other such stuff, you're not cut out for this place. It may even drive you even more insane than you are, possibly so much so that you become sane again.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:48
You see guys, Carocon is the kinda guy who you need to show more affection to by saying stuff like "Yes, yes I can - I shall now buy you a nice pint of beer for you to drink" and stuff like that - you just need to get to his good side first...
Lacadaemon
30-12-2006, 12:48
Deep down, I reckon that all of us here believe that this is the best thread of the centrury.

I do. This shit is masterful. It far surpasses the usual 'LOL t3h Jooz R 3bilz :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :upyours:" efforts.

In fact it is better than any of the more artfully done ones either.

Frankly, it's an outstanding piece of performance art. It should go into the archives for future study.

A+
Lunatic Goofballs
30-12-2006, 12:48
Great, I'll grab the weed so at least we'll be hungry when the shitty muffins get done. Maybe I wont even notice how bad virtual muffins are.

I got all the good weed when you gave me Jamaica. :D
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:50
You see guys, Carocon is the kinda guy who you need to show more affection to by saying stuff like "Yes, yes I can - I shall now buy you a nice pint of beer for you to drink" and stuff like that - you just need to get to his good side first...

I dont need affection. Im not even sure if I have feelings. And I'm not crazy for all those who seem to think I am.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:52
I got all the good weed when you gave me Jamaica. :D

Shit, can I have it back. If you like cocaine you can have central america.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:52
I do. This shit is masterful. It far surpasses the usual 'LOL t3h Jooz R 3bilz :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :upyours:" efforts.

In fact it is better than any of the more artfully done ones either.

Frankly, it's an outstanding piece of performance art. It should go into the archives for future study.

A+

future study?
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:53
I dont need affection. Im not even sure if I have feelings. And I'm not crazy for all those who seem to think I am.

I've read this whole thread, you got really pissed off a few pages back. You have feelings. Anger for one, I think lust counts too.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:54
I've read this whole thread, you got really pissed off a few pages back. You have feelings. Anger for one, I think lust counts too.

maybe I got a little pissed. but where the hell did you get lust.
Lacadaemon
30-12-2006, 12:55
future study?

That's right. I am saying, that in the future, people should study this thread.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:55
maybe I got a little pissed. but where the hell did you get lust.

I was referring to your power lust.
Brukkavenskia
30-12-2006, 12:56
Anyway, chips to this thread, before it's taken off anyway. And BTW, the CUSTOMER is always right - think about it whilst you're trying to get to sleep tonight ok?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:56
That's right. I am saying, that in the future, people should study this thread.

why?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 12:57
I was referring to your power lust.

Power lust is natural. Everyone feels it from time to time. I, just more than others.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 12:58
Power lust is natural. Everyone feels it from time to time. I, just more than others.

I never said it was a bad thing, or unnatural, if you remember you said you weren't sure if you had feelings, I pointed out that you do. End point.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 13:00
I never said it was a bad thing, or unnatural, if you remember you said you weren't sure if you had feelings, I pointed out that you do. End point.

Yep.
When I started this thread i was blitzed out of my skull. i don't even remember half the shit I typed.
Dryks Legacy
30-12-2006, 13:02
Yep.
When I started this thread i was blitzed out of my skull. i don't even remember half the shit I typed.

Maybe you should go back and read it, you made a pretty big arse of yourself.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 13:03
Maybe you should go back and read it, you made a pretty big arse of yourself.

Fuck. I've got to disconnect the net when I'm high on chronic. Damnit! How bad was it?
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 13:06
Holy shit! My reputation will be forever scarred because of this. God, did I type all that stuff.
The maps kind o' cool though, even though there are major problems with it.
Novemberstan
30-12-2006, 13:16
Holy shit! My reputation will be forever scarred because of this. God, did I type all that stuff.
The maps kind o' cool though, even though there are major problems with it.Don't worry. You didn't have much a reputation to start with. Most of your 180 odd posts are in this thread.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 13:17
Don't worry. You didn't have much a reputation to start with. Most of your 180 odd posts are in this thread.

Yeah, but now any thread I post will not be taken seriously in fear of encountering stupidity.
Cacoron
30-12-2006, 13:24
I think this thread is drawing to its final closing. Its been fun; you've been great! Goodnight!