NationStates Jolt Archive

Can't we just all agree that the Nazis were evil because they killed 6 Million Jews, started World War Two and took democracy out of the Weimer Republic and that these facts have completely ruined anything good that Hitler might have done for Germany?

See, if we can't, I'm not sure if I even have a common base of humanity to debate with you on.

I am perfectly aware of that, and that's part of the reason I say it wasn't a genocide. Sure, Jews (whom I don't consider a race) were executed, but so were homosexuals, POWs, gypsies, and various others.

As far as I am concerned, it was a legally sanctioned internment and execution of enemies of the State.
I'm sure it was legal under the nazi regime, but how is it OK that 12 million people were killed?

Can't we just all agree that the Nazis were evil because they killed 6 Million Jews, started World War Two and took democracy out of the Weimer Republic and that these facts have completely ruined anything good that Hitler might have done for Germany?

See, if we can't, I'm not sure if I even have a common base of humanity to debate with you on.

fuck the jews. what about poland? russia? 22million russians!

Jewish socialism:confused:

Yes Jewish socialism! Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky were Jewish. The leaders of the Social Democratic Party and the editors of Marxist newspapers in Germany were Jews. After the Bolshevik Revolution over 300 of the 384 People's Commissars were Jews. And as for Jews causing prostitution, it was more indirectly. The Jews controlled most of the major media outlets, and degraded the culture through that media influence to the point were prostitution was seen more favorably among the general populace.

Ich habe oft gesagt, dass in der USA es keine Nazionalsozialisten gibt, die Deutsch verstehen. Ich glaube dass es sehr komisch ist, weil viele Nazis koennen Deutsch nicht verstehen.

Ich spreche Deutsch. Die meisten Leute, die sich Nazis rufen, sind nur fälscht.

Ich spreche Deutsch. Die meisten Leute, die sich Nazis rufen, sind nur fälscht.Thank goodness you can't speak it either then.

Yes Jewish socialism! Marx, Lenin, and Trotsky were Jewish. The leaders of the Social Democratic Party and the editors of Marxist newspapers in Germany were Jews. After the Bolshevik Revolution over 300 of the 384 People's Commissars were Jews. And as for Jews causing prostitution, it was more indirectly. The Jews controlled most of the major media outlets, and degraded the culture through that media influence to the point were prostitution was seen more favorably among the general populace.Care to prove it?

Care to prove it?

Nowhere in my research shows Lenin to be a Jew so my money is on the fact that he can't.

fuck the jews. what about poland? russia? 22million russians!

33 million.

Nowhere in my research shows Lenin to be a Jew so my money is on the fact that he can't.

Trotsky was, but he was ethnically Jewish, I never heard anything about him being religiously Jewish.

Nowhere in my research shows Lenin to be a Jew so my money is on the fact that he can't.

Marx and Trotsky were Jews, but I never said "Jew", I said "Jewish". Lenin was 1/4 Jewish.

fuck the jews. what about poland? russia? 22million russians!

33 million.

What?

Marx and Trotsky were Jews, but I never said "Jew", I said "Jewish". Lenin was 1/4 Jewish.
Where's the proof?
And what about the commissars?

What?

33 million Russkies died in WW2.

Trotsky was, but he was ethnically Jewish, I never heard anything about him being religiously Jewish.

He wasn't. His family didn't even speak Yiddish. And Lenin was baptized in the Russian Orthodox Church so he was not a jew either.

Marx and Trotsky were Jews, but I never said "Jew", I said "Jewish". Lenin was 1/4 Jewish.

You used the term Jewish to indicate that he was a Jew. You did not mean it as coming from jewish descent. Nice try though.

As defined as the unlawful taking of a life.

No, that's the definition of murder. Killing is killing, lawful or not.

Trotsky was, but he was ethnically Jewish, I never heard anything about him being religiously Jewish.

A religious communist is kind of an oxymoron.

TFHR Also, you have failed to explain why it is moot that Jesus was a Jew. You have merely stated that without any proof or explanation. I would be akin to me responding to all of your arguments with "thats a moot point" with no real rebuttal. Persecute you for black, you discard your hand, and I condemn when you attack. pwnd.

I made one mistake by posting an apparant neo-nazi anti-war song (yes, a neo-nazi anti-war song :rolleyes:). I'll make it up by posting this.

Des Hitlers Zwang, der macht uns klein,
noch liegen wir in Ketten.
Doch einmal werden wir wieder frei, wir werden die Ketten schon brechen.
Denn unsere Faste, die sind hart, ja - und die Messer sitzen los,
für die Freiheit der Jugend kämpfen Navajos.

Who-ever knows its origin by heart gets a cookie,

or maybe two... :)

A religious communist is kind of an oxymoron.
I do not see why this must be so. If, for instance, the Bible is taken for part of its doctrine, one may reject the idea of earthly authority (besides the dictatorship of/on behalf of the proletariat) but not of Heavenly authority.

Cool! Are we allowed to throws things at them? :D
Depends; how much will you pay for it? :)

I made one mistake by posting an apparant neo-nazi anti-war song (yes, a neo-nazi anti-war song :rolleyes:). I'll make it up by posting this.Seems a contradiction, however it's logical when you look at who the song is about: The US. Neo-nazis typically use the terms "Warmongerer" when talking about the US. It's not that contradictory at all for neo-nazis to sing anti-war songs.

Des Hitlers Zwang, der macht uns klein,
noch liegen wir in Ketten.
Doch einmal werden wir wieder frei, wir werden die Ketten schon brechen.
Denn unsere Faste, die sind hart, ja - und die Messer sitzen los,
für die Freiheit der Jugend kämpfen Navajos.

Who-ever knows its origin by heart gets a cookie,

or maybe two... :)Edelweißpiraten :)

I'm sure it was legal under the nazi regime, but how is it OK that 20 million+ people were killed?

Fixed.

33 million Russkies died in WW2.

How many of them were killed on Stalin's orders.....?

To TFHR: Out of curiosity, where do you stand on non-Jewish non-whites?

Trotsky was, but he was ethnically Jewish, I never heard anything about him being religiously Jewish.

He was an atheist.

Depends; how much will you pay for it? :)

*takes out rumpled wad of cash*

Is five dollars enough?

*takes out rumpled wad of cash*

Is five dollars enough?
I was thinking something more along the lines of a fragment of your soul. :) In Hell dollar bills are quite flammable. :/

Unless you can show that I indeed know nothing (and I do), then your statement is false. Back up your statements or stfu.

So, you do know nothing? You said "unless you can show that I know nothing (and I do), then your statement is false."

Man, what's with FHR, anyway? If you ask me, Nazi "thinking" suffers from the fatal flaw of being unable to comprehend individuality. There are only groups and races in Nazism, and no room for individual responsibility. FHR can't let go of his hate over an event that occurred 2000 years ago, which no one alive today is guilty of. Hating someone because they happen to be of the same ethnicity as someone evil is just plain stupid. A Nazi is someone who listens to great music and can only think of it as a testament to "aryan greatness" rather than the product of individual effort and brilliance. Or as Melkor Unchained said, one thing I can definitely agree with him on for once:

"Racism is the lowest, most vile form of collectivism on the planet. It has no place in a civilized society; people should be judged on their merits as individuals rather than by their ancestry."