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Now we are going round in circles. I can't be bothered anymore.

Very well, I accept your resignation.

Very well, I accept your resignation.
It's not resignation... it's just giving up because arguing with you is like arguing with a very young child - you don't listen at all...

Yes there i, and if you would care to inspect the figures instead of quoting a right wing rag you will find that the children of immigrants and ethnic minorities perform far better in the public school system than others. The type of education we are alking about is teaching tolerance and acceptance, Something you seem to have little comprehension of.

Actually, if you care to look at the statistics, you will find that the immigrant population has an extremely hard time finding jobs. There was an excellent article in The Economist about why Sweden's social economic model was failing about a month ago. One of the claims the article cited was the very few immigrants were acquiring jobs compared to the rest of the population.

It's great for everybody except the children of Muslim immigrants who refuse to conform to the standards of Western life and refuse to be assimilated into British society. It's their fault, not the government's. Britain should really consider clamping down on Muslim immigration in light of what happened to France.

Not really, in the poor muslim ghettos there is very little in education standards. Think of the education in the bad parts of a place like Detroit or Los Angelos.

Britain should really consider clamping down on Muslim immigration in light of what happened to France.

the new islamic republic of france?
chac chirac a muslim?

It's not resignation... it's just giving up because arguing with you is like arguing with a very young child - you don't listen at all...

I shall gladly accept your capitulation, too.

the new islamic republic of france?
chac chirac a muslim?

No, the very violent riots perpetrated by extremists.

Actually, if you care to look at the statistics, you will find that the immigrant population has an extremely hard time finding jobs. There was an excellent article in The Economist about why Sweden's social economic model was failing about a month ago. One of the claims the article cited was the very few immigrants were acquiring jobs compared to the rest of the population.
It's not that they're not searching, it's subconscious racism from employers that's stopping a lot of Muslims getting jobs.

Actually, if you care to look at the statistics, you will find that the immigrant population has an extremely hard time finding jobs. There was an excellent article in The Economist about why Sweden's social economic model was failing about a month ago. One of the claims the article cited was the very few immigrants were acquiring jobs compared to the rest of the population.

Of course not, do you think a swedish person would hire a muslim over a "dependable" swedish person?

I shall gladly accept your capitulation, too.
I'm not stopping arguing with you , you cretin, where did I suggest that I was?

Actually, if you care to look at the statistics, you will find that the immigrant population has an extremely hard time finding jobs. There was an excellent article in The Economist about why Sweden's social economic model was failing about a month ago. One of the claims the article cited was the very few immigrants were acquiring jobs compared to the rest of the population.

Not in Britain they don't. The muslim communities in Britain have very low rates of unemployment. I'd be interested to know where all your figures com from, as you have yet to provide a link for any statistical statement you have made in ANY of your threads. Care to prove me wrong and provide one now?

It's not that they're not searching, it's subconscious racism from employers that's stopping a lot of Muslims getting jobs.

Sure, blame it on the racism. You're the one who's being racist in favour of Muslims. Look at the embassies that were burned down, look at the protests against free speech. They're the ones who need to clean up their act, not employers. Employers should not be forced to hire a sub-par candidate just because he/she is Muslim, but that is already happening in many European countries.

No, the very violent riots perpetrated by extremists.

The riots perptrated in France were not because of some inate connection to terrorism, they were because muslims are shoved into ghettos where they have no jobs, education, or means to keep themselves alive.

Sure, blame it on the racism. You're the one who's being racist in favour of Muslims. Look at the embassies that were burned down, look at the protests against free speech. They're the ones who need to clean up their act, not employers. Employers should not be forced to hire a sub-par candidate just because he/she is Muslim, but that is already happening in many European countries.

This is not happening at all!;) Where do you gat these notions from?

Not in Britain they don't. The muslim communities in Britain have very low rates of unemployment. I'd be interested to know where all your figures com from, as you have yet to provide a link for any statistical statement you have made in ANY of your threads. Care to prove me wrong and provide one now?

I have provided links and I have told you the article which I cited. If you read The Economist, you'll know what I'm talking about. I do not think that there is any on-line version of that particular article, however, unless you are willing to pay for it.

Employers should not be forced to hire a sub-par candidate just because he/she is Muslim, but that is already happening in many European countries.
Get that from UKIP's favourite hate-rag, or do you genuinely have proof?

'Positive' discrimination is illegal in the UK to the same extent that negative discrimination is.

The riots perptrated in France were not because of some inate connection to terrorism, they were because muslims are shoved into ghettos where they have no jobs, education, or means to keep themselves alive.

They are shoving themselves into the ghettos, actually. They are there because of their free will, not because the government put them there. If they are unable to get a job, that's where they'll end up.

Sure, blame it on the racism. You're the one who's being racist in favour of Muslims. Look at the embassies that were burned down, look at the protests against free speech. They're the ones who need to clean up their act, not employers. Employers should not be forced to hire a sub-par candidate just because he/she is Muslim, but that is already happening in many European countries.

But the problem with that logic is that the hiring systems of these employers are not based on the qualifications of the employee but on their race or religion.

They are shoving themselves into the ghettos, actually. They are there because of their free will, not because the government put them there. If they are unable to get a job, that's where they'll end up.
No, they're there because Islam forbids usury, and they can't afford anywhere decent without saving up for it for years, or sharing with others.

I have provided links and I have told you the article which I cited. If you read The Economist, you'll know what I'm talking about. I do not think that there is any on-line version of that particular article, however, unless you are willing to pay for it.

You have not provided any links at all. Where are they then? This is your big chance, prove me wrong. If you can.

Im not going to read through twenty pages of inter-religious bashing. I wish to respond to the OP, though.

Right now, Christianity is the most populous religion. You seem to think that if more people 'vote' for your religion, it makes your religion the Truth. As if losing the election would make you WRONG.

When it comes to religion, you're either right or wrong, and probably none of us will know till we're dead, so moot point. The only way to quit arguing about it is to quit thinking that you have to WIN this argument while you're alive. Are you going to convert the world into believing you are right? Kill all the ones who disagree?

If you ask me, if you are arguing about it, then none of you know the Truth.

If you knew the truth, you would know it doesn't matter whether there is one of you believing it, or one billion. The Truth will set you free.

They are shoving themselves into the ghettos, actually. They are there because of their free will, not because the government put them there. If they are unable to get a job, that's where they'll end up.

Free will? Its because they have no economic means to support themselves, because the government and employers discriminates based on race.

The Daily Mail is th most right wing, intolerent, anti muslim, amti immigrant, anti left publication in Britain. It doesn't report news, i reports a conervative agenda in he sameway the Guardian reports a left wing agenda. The only thing eitherof them are any good for are the crosswords.
The Guardian is a quality newspaper, and only mildly left-wing.

Free will? Its because they have no economic means to support themselves, because the government and employers discriminates based on race.
no and you know you are fishing,
Welcome,there is no descrimination,only legal or not,.
your petty discution are just that,petty,
like we are to believe in democracy

Arse-kicking of the century. Well done, everyone.

no and you know you are fishing,
Welcome,there is no descrimination,only legal or not,.
your petty discution are just that,petty,
like we are to believe in democracy

Agreed.

You have not provided any links at all. Where are they then? This is your big chance, prove me wrong. If you can.

I think its fair to say that seeing as you are now offline you have no intention, or ability, to prove me wrong. I'd just like to say thanks for showing up and providing myself and everyone else with a nice stationary target. If you wish to debate again feel free, but I will be alling you out for proof on every statistical statement you make and calling bullshit (like I am now) when you fail too provide. See you again soon, MTAE.

I think its fair to say that seeing as you are now offline you have no intention, or ability, to prove me wrong. I'd just like to say thanks for showing up and providing myself and everyone else with a nice stationary target. If you wish to debate again feel free, but I will be alling you out for proof on every statistical statement you make and calling bullshit (like I am now) when you fail too provide. See you again soon, MTAE.
I'd like to agree with this, and, as previously, congratulate those very much responsible for the utter downfall of his 'argument'.

Thanks, everyone.

Please let me know which religion won this argument, so I know which one will get me to Heaven

:rollseyes:

I guess it's too late to remind everybody of the four-page rule, huh?

I guess it's too late to remind everybody of the four-page rule, huh?

Tried it on about page 12

I guess it's too late to remind everybody of the four-page rule, huh?
What, four pages being the time it takes for MTAE to lose the will to argue properly?

What, four pages being the time it takes for MTAE to lose the will to argue properly?

Awhile back it was agreed that MTAE's threads wouldn't be allowed to extend to more than four pages.

Awhile back it was agreed that MTAE's threads wouldn't be allowed to extend to more than four pages.

I know, but it is so tempting to argue with an idiot. And fun too

Awhile back it was agreed that MTAE's threads wouldn't be allowed to extend to more than four pages.
Sometimes one needs to let off some steam. This is one of those days.

Sometimes one needs to let off some steam. This is one of those days.
agreed, ignorant people just need to be put in their place sometimes.

all i can say it was fun to watch

all i can say it was fun to watch

True, true.

So, please, could one of you stop your self congratulations long enough to tell me which religion won the argument?

So, please, could one of you stop your self congratulations long enough to tell me which religion won the argument?

What are you talking about? No religion "won", the arguments are not tied with any one religion.

People ignore the UN, but they'll keep paying attention to UN abassadorship. Irony.

*Does a MTAE impression*

HEY, EVERYONE! I SUPPORT CANNIBALISM! GIVE ME SOME ATTENTION! I SUPPORT CANNIBALISM! AND RAPE! I'LL SUPPORT INCEST WITH FOETUSES IF THAT WILL GIVE ME SOME ATTENTION! PLEEEEEASE, LISTEN TO ME! HATE ME!

*Ends*

*Bows down*

Do not feed the troll.

Do not feed the troll.

hahahahahha lol, bit late for that!

Meanstoandend and this guy ?


Are they the same people ?


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r106/ledhed215/fredphelpsnonut.jpg

That was way funny. I approve!

Whose stand-up act is MTAE anyway? Is that you, Kimchi? The "I piss on morality" angle sure is there. Brilliant.

I didn't even read the whole thing, but read most of it. And I can say to you:

You need to learn about Muslims and listen in 8th grade History.

When he gets to 8th grade, what do you think the chances are he'll listen?

*Does a MTAE impression*

HEY, EVERYONE! I SUPPORT CANNIBALISM! GIVE ME SOME ATTENTION! I SUPPORT CANNIBALISM! AND RAPE! I'LL SUPPORT INCEST WITH FOETUSES IF THAT WILL GIVE ME SOME ATTENTION! PLEEEEEASE, LISTEN TO ME! HATE ME!

*Ends*

*Bows down*

You left the part about how he's not a troll and why can't people debate him on the issue instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks. Otherwise, nicely done.

You left the part about how he's not a troll and why can't people debate him on the issue instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks. Otherwise, nicely done.


You just described OceanDrive to a T .;)

Meanstoandend and this guy ?


Are they the same people ?


http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r106/ledhed215/fredphelpsnonut.jpg

Alright, alright, I admit it. I was the one who defaced David by writing graffiti on him.

Alright, alright, I admit it. I was the one who defaced David by writing graffiti on him.So you are the troll?


Edited,

You left the part about how he's not a troll and why can't people debate him on the issue instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks. Otherwise, nicely done.

People can and do debate him. But he usually ignores successful counter-arguments in favor of the weaker ones, in order to continue to make posts and threads that illicit negative responses.

Taken as a whole, his threads and posts actually contradict each other (for example, he sometimes argues against communism, but also argues for collectivism; this thread he is against terrorism, but he supports politically motivated criminal violence) and the only consistency remaining is that he posts whatever will continue to get attention.

Abortion helps the terrorists.......do I even want to read this thread?

Abortion helps the terrorists.......do I even want to read this thread?
MTAE gets a complete arse-kicking, debate-wise. Yes, you do.

If you laugh, the terrorists win.

So then - if you cry, does the "coalition" win?

MTAE gets a complete arse-kicking, debate-wise. Yes, you do.

Huzzah! *runs back to page 1*

So then - if you cry, does the "coalition" win?

Probably.

The Kansas public school system has done an extremely good job of that already.

This statement is not born out by any of your posts to date.

He may be nuts.... but add abortion to the list of reasons the Islamic Radicals point to to prove we are satans spawn and all must die.

Even if you do not like the person posting or think he is menally unstable if he is speaking a truth and making a valid point...meh...he's still nuts but right .


And Means ....In the universe I live in one must question the thought patterns that exist in the head that comes up with some of these topics...:D

So I mean the word nuts in the best way possible...a better word may be eccentric but I dont think I spelled it right..so nuts it is .

The point is that these Islamo-fascist are slowly sucking away the freedoms of Europeans under the guise of multiculturalism. The cause does not matter so much as the effect -- because of intolerant Muslims, Europe is slowly caving into to their demands and become more and more of an Islamic state.

And Republicans are slowly sucking away the freedoms of Americans under the guise of protecting us from terrorists.

As to Europe becoming an Islamic state, do you have any proof?

So you are the troll?


Edited,

As a troll he certaily makes threads that are very popular.

Europe is slowly caving into to their demands and become more and more of an Islamic state. :D

See what I mean ? Nuts !

If anything Europeans are rebelling against the influence and crushing it whenever possible. Watch what happens with immigration and see how many follow the Dutch example .

He may be nuts.... but add abortion to the list of reasons the Islamic Radicals point to to prove we are satans spawn and all must die.

Even if you do not like the person posting or think he is menally unstable if he is speaking a truth and making a valid point...meh...he's still nuts but right .


And Means ....In the universe I live in one must question the thought patterns that exist in the head that comes up with some of these topics...:D

So I mean the worrd nuts in the best way possible...a better word may be eccentric but I dont think I spelled it right..so nuts it is .

So, wait... we should do away with abortion BECAUSE it upsets the Islamic radicals? I think I have missed something here.

Huzzah! *runs back to page 1*

Your search for posts which "kicked my ass" will be, I am afraid, in vain.

So, wait... we should do away with abortion BECAUSE it upsets the Islamic radicals? I think I have missed something here.


Meh....taking a piss with the wrong hand upsets them too....so WTF ?

If we do away with all the stuff they dont like.. we become what they want us to be ...good god fearing Muslims living under an Caliphate.


The thing is Abortion is just on the list of things that make us satans spawn....but its a long fucking list..:D


So Mr. Means is making a very weird argument and using a valid point to make it....its like eating space cakes or something.

Meh....taking a piss with the wrong hand upsets them too....so WTF ?

If we do away with all the stuff they dont like.. we become what they want us to be ...good god fearing Muslims living under an Caliphate.


The thing is Abortion is just on the list of things that make us satans spawn....but its a long fucking list..:D


So Mr. Means is making a very weird argument and using a valid point to make it....its like eating space cakes or something.

Of all the irrelivance!

mmmm ignornace....

Of all the irrelivance!


quite...much like this whole thread ;)

Immigrants!


*Runs*

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism. Unfortunately, they are winning. Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3% (which, incidentally, is the rate of world-wide population expansion), yet the Islamic population balloons by 2.7%. At this rate, the Muslims will overtake the Christians in numbers by 2025. Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims. Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state. Well, we must not let the same thing happen in America. We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing. We have tried to achieve this goal through war, but we failed to a certain extent -- the inexorable spread of Islam was not halted sufficiently. Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates. We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants. One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate. Also, we must criminalize abortion. Anybody who is willing to get an abortion is letting the terrorists win -- there is no way around that fact. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them. To win this war on terror, a new strategy is required -- we must out-breed the enemy. They have a head start on us, but I'm confident that we'll be able to come back from behind to win. If not, we can always nuke them, but that's too extreme a solution for the time being and I would prefer a peaceful resolution to this problem. If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

Dude, you should go into stand-up comedy.

No, really.

MTAE is rapidly becoming my favorite poster, not because I agree with what he has to say, but because everything he says is so damn funny.

Dear God, this is pathetic.

I think I'll go and run and hide since according to him all I amount to is a brood bitch. After all, I'm a white Christian female, I must rapidly reproduce and spend my years pregnant in order to squash those evil Muslims. It's all for the greater good. :rolleyes:

Seriously, this guy needs some help. I could repeate what everyone else has said on this thread, though from this and the various other threads, I've decided he's not going to listen to my (or anyone else's) reasoning.

Your search for posts which "kicked my ass" will be, I am afraid, in vain.

Error: Please narrow search parameters

Aw, good old American ignorance.

Oh heck no, we're not claiming him.

I'm saying that public institutions which are subsidized by the US government should prominently display the flag so they don't forget who's signing their paychecks.

I think that from now on, the Katganistan flag should fly prominently in all public institutions. Why? I am a tax payer, so I'm paying the US govt's paychecks.

I think that from now on, the Katganistan flag should fly prominently in all public institutions. Why? I am a tax payer, so I'm paying the US govt's paychecks.

Hey, thanks for that. You've been great.

You need to learn about Muslims and listen in 8th grade History.

He also needs to learn about grammar, and how to avoid trolling.

Ever hear the saying "dissent is the highest form of patriotism"?

You mean the quote uttered by Howard Zinn, a Marxist?


"In a democracy dissent is an act of faith. Like medicine, the test of its value is not in its taste, but in its effects."
-J. W. Fulbright

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it."
-Edward R. Murrow

"But the peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."
-John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, Chapter 2: Of the liberty of thought and discussion, 1859


Are these all Marxists, too?
Oh, and what about that Bill of Rights:

"Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "

Redress of grievances. Hmmmm. Sounds like the forefathers are actually promoting the idea of dissent.

But hey, you're a GREAT American.

"In a democracy dissent is an act of faith. Like medicine, the test of its value is not in its taste, but in its effects."
-J. W. Fulbright

Well, if it leads to the terrorists killing us all, I'd dare say that it was not very good medicine.

Redress of grievances. Hmmmm. Sounds like the forefathers are actually promoting the idea of dissent.

I'm not saying that some dissent isn't patriotic; it is. If the Democrats rise to power, then dissent will be extremely patriotic. Currently, however, it is extremely misguided. Nonetheless, I don't believe we should actually ban free speech unless it gives to much succor to external terrorists attempting to destroy our way of life.

I'm simply saying that any rational person will acknowledge that a certain percentage of Muslim babies born will become extremists.

And a certain percentage of white males become serial killers.
And a certain percentage of Christians become extremists.
And a certain percentage of Kansans are famous for being the victims of white male serial killers.

So?

So?

The percentage is much higher among Muslims, and they pose a much greater danger to our way of life. A suicide bomber is more dangerous than an obese person, regardless of how many obese people are born each minute. Serial killers are bad, but not too common and not to dangerous to society overall.

Well, if it leads to the terrorists killing us all, I'd dare say that it was not very good medicine.

When has verbal dissent ever lead to terrorists killing anyone?

I'm not saying that some dissent isn't patriotic; it is. If the Democrats rise to power, then dissent will be extremely patriotic. Currently, however, it is extremely misguided. Nonetheless, I don't believe we should actually ban free speech unless it gives to much succor to external terrorists attempting to destroy our way of life.

Free speech is part of our way of life. If you remove it in order to avoid giving succor to terrorists trying to destroy our way of life, you do their job for them.

When has verbal dissent ever lead to terrorists killing anyone?

It may encourage terrorists to persist in their ways if it is extreme enough. I'm not referring to mild transgressions such as protesting against the war in Iraq, but saying such things as "hit us again, Osama" cross the line.

The percentage is much higher among Muslims, and they pose a much greater danger to our way of life. A suicide bomber is more dangerous than an obese person, regardless of how many obese people are born each minute. Serial killers are bad, but not too common and not to dangerous to society overall.


Muslim terrorists are 'not too common' either. (As many people have pointed out endlessly on this thread, only a minute portion of Muslims are extremists) And I beg to differ that a serial killer isn't a danger to society.

To the OP, I would like to state that everything you have ever posted on this forum as of yet that I have read is complete, utter bullshit. Every paragraph, every sentence, every word you have ever typed has shown you to be arrogant, ignorant, and hypocritical, and that you do not advocate freedom but rather are an anti-choice extremist yourself. I am not going to bother to quote any of your bullshit because it sickens me to the heart to know that a 14-year-old so supposedly "innocent" as yourself could have such completely fucked up ideals as those you have shown yourself to believe in.

Please burn your computer.

remember: every time you do an abortion, god masturbates a kitten.

Well, if it leads to the terrorists killing us all, I'd dare say that it was not very good medicine.



I'm not saying that some dissent isn't patriotic; it is. If the Democrats rise to power, then dissent will be extremely patriotic. Currently, however, it is extremely misguided. Nonetheless, I don't believe we should actually ban free speech unless it gives to much succor to external terrorists attempting to destroy our way of life.

What you propose is more likely to "destroy our way of life" than any outside force can.

remember: every time you do an abortion, god masturbates a kitten.

That's...

Disturbing.

No, really.

o_O

What you propose is more likely to "destroy our way of life" than any outside force can.
It always amazes me how quick people like MTAE are to propose destroying our way of life in order to save it.

It also amazes and worries me about how disconnected people can be from real life and believe this kind of BS, but that's another topic.

Means: I, and - I'm betting - other, TRUE Americans (And I'm not even an American but I'm more American than you are anyways) will say whatever the fuck we wish, whenever the fuck we wish, however the fuck we wish.

And I DARE you to do ANYTHING about that other than humiliating yourself in internet forums over it. I DARE YOU!

The percentage is much higher among Muslims, and they pose a much greater danger to our way of life. A suicide bomber is more dangerous than an obese person, regardless of how many obese people are born each minute. Serial killers are bad, but not too common and not to dangerous to society overall.

On the contrary, more people in America are killed by obese people every year than by terrorists. :)

On the contrary, more people in America are killed by obese people every year than by terrorists. :)

You'd be well and truly screwed if the two ever joined forces.

It may encourage terrorists to persist in their ways if it is extreme enough. I'm not referring to mild transgressions such as protesting against the war in Iraq, but saying such things as "hit us again, Osama" cross the line.
I'm certain that terrorists would derive far greater succor from the removal of one of our most fundamental rights than they would from any dissenting speech. It would show them that they've succeeded.

And again, when has dissent ever resulted in terrorists killing anyone?

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism.

No...if your argument is any indication, I'm fairly certain we are engaged in a deadly struggle against idiocy.

I'm certain that terrorists would derive far greater succor from the removal of one of our most fundamental rights than they would from any dissenting speech. It would show them that they've succeeded.

And again, when has dissent ever resulted in terrorists killing anyone?

Means thinks it works like in the Hook movie... When Peter Pan said he didn't believe in faeries and Tinkerbell informed him that that caused them to die. :D

Like this.

I don't believe in soldiers.

*Watches as one suddenly dies for no apparent reason, such as having gone to a quagmire war or something, he just dies*

See? :p

On the contrary, more people in America are killed by obese people every year than by terrorists. :)
you mean some obese people randomly explode in public areas making hundreds of victims? wew!

Wait...

On another thread, Means said women should be forced to procreate...

In this one, he's claiming procreation, ergo sex, is patriotic...

Means, if you're having problems getting some, you CAN pay for it, you know! :D

It may encourage terrorists to persist in their ways if it is extreme enough. I'm not referring to mild transgressions such as protesting against the war in Iraq, but saying such things as "hit us again, Osama" cross the line.

...kinda like "Bring 'em on"? :p

...kinda like "Bring 'em on"? :p
Why did you ressurect this? WHY? :(

Why did you ressurect this? WHY? :(

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. ;)

Besides, it's not as it was long gone... :p

I think it's his funniest one to date :D But I'm willing to let it die :)

Here, have a fluffle :fluffle:

MTAE is funny because he takes completely impossibly ignorant and silly topics and acts like they're entirely logical.

Makes me laugh. Silly monkey.

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. ;)

Besides, it's not as it was long gone... :p

I think it's his funniest one to date :D But I'm willing to let it die :)

Here, have a fluffle :fluffle:
:fluffle:
I don't know, this one may be a little cheesy. I liked his Anyone Can Be A Millionaire. :D

Now where's the "Ah Jeez, not this shit again!" picture when you need it?

MTAE is funny because he takes completely impossibly ignorant and silly topics and acts like they're entirely logical.

Makes me laugh. Silly monkey.
I've never read a single topic of theirs, what have i been missing out on?:(

MTAE is funny because he takes completely impossibly ignorant and silly topics and acts like they're entirely logical.

Makes me laugh. Silly monkey.

Oh he's pretty good. But I don't think this one is up to his usual standard. He's slipping a bit, I just don't feel he's really behind this one with the same heart he's been behind previous threads.

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism.
Who, "we"? I prefer diplomacy, and if some jerk at the White House didn't choose war before anything else, maybe the "struggle" woulnd't be so "deadly". Also, I don't remember US presidents helping christian Serbs fighting against muslim Bosnians and Albanians in the '90s, or US soldiers helping christian Russians fighting muslim Mujaheddins in the '80s, so there's a little doublethink here.

Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3%.
Define christian. The mere fact that I was born in a traditionally christian country like Italy doesn't qualify me as a christian, because I'm an atheist. By the same rule, an Egyptian isn't necessarily a muslim, let alone being an "islamo-fascist". You're oversimplifying and generalising too much.

Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims.
Huh? Facts please. As for the veil question, freedoms are being broadened. In Italy it is a felony to be in public places with your face hidden, yet it is tolerated if a muslim woman chooses to wear a veil, and, if the police needs to identify her, a policewoman will do that, so that the muslim woman won't need to expose herself in front of a man. This is called tolerance, you know? And tolerance is a good idea if you want to quench the fires of religious hatred. Hatred and fear only fuel violence and terrorism.

Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state.
Impossible. Even if muslims were the majority in Europe, the constitutions of ALL european countries prevent ANY religious group from instaurating a theocracy. Look at the banlieue riots. Those people are muslims for the most part. They aren't raging through the streets calling for sharia, they rage because they feel excluded from the rest of France (I'm not advocating street riots, I'm just explaining what they claim!). They want to be recognised as part of the french society and secular state, they don't want to turn France into an islamist theocracy!

We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing.
Seems that you fear Europe a lot more than you fear muslims. And, what about religion freedom? Are you saying that only christian religion should be allowed? Goodbye democracy, welcome theocracy...

Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates.
Very European-style line of thought: Hitler's and Mussolini's style. If you excuse me, I'll go vomiting a bit and then resume posting.

We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants.
Maybe most muslims want to immigrate because they like Europe and the US, with their freedoms, a lot better than muslim theocracies.

One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate.
So you're telling that I have to notify IRS that I'm a non-muslim? Goodbye democracy, again.

Also, we must criminalize abortion. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them.
Oh yeah. Better having a parent rising an unwanted baby, and force him to be a christian, and maybe beat him whenever he forgets his daily prayers, so he'll grow frustrated with christianism, convert to radical islam and suicide himself by blasting a bomb in a crowded marketplace to become a martyr. Really smart.

By the way, how can you call yourself a christian if you wish death on fellow humans? And yes, regretting that "not enough of them died" is wishing death on fellow humans.

The real challenge is to beat radical islam with democracy, diplomacy and tolerance. If we use fascism and theocracy to protect "democracy", democracy has already lost the challenge.

You'd be well and truly screwed if the two ever joined forces.

No kidding! Too many hiding places for explosives! :p

you mean some obese people randomly explode in public areas making hundreds of victims? wew!

Yes. It's horrible! *shudder*

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism. Unfortunately, they are winning. Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3% (which, incidentally, is the rate of world-wide population expansion), yet the Islamic population balloons by 2.7%. At this rate, the Muslims will overtake the Christians in numbers by 2025. Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims. Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state. Well, we must not let the same thing happen in America. We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing. We have tried to achieve this goal through war, but we failed to a certain extent -- the inexorable spread of Islam was not halted sufficiently. Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates. We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants. One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate. Also, we must criminalize abortion. Anybody who is willing to get an abortion is letting the terrorists win -- there is no way around that fact. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them. To win this war on terror, a new strategy is required -- we must out-breed the enemy. They have a head start on us, but I'm confident that we'll be able to come back from behind to win. If not, we can always nuke them, but that's too extreme a solution for the time being and I would prefer a peaceful resolution to this problem. If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

i'm getting more and more convinced that this guy is a puppet troll.... he can't be real

http://images.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/cg09092003/bbg.jpg

Heh.

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism. Unfortunately, they are winning. Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3% (which, incidentally, is the rate of world-wide population expansion), yet the Islamic population balloons by 2.7%. At this rate, the Muslims will overtake the Christians in numbers by 2025. Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims. Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state. Well, we must not let the same thing happen in America. We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing. We have tried to achieve this goal through war, but we failed to a certain extent -- the inexorable spread of Islam was not halted sufficiently. Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates. We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants. One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate. Also, we must criminalize abortion. Anybody who is willing to get an abortion is letting the terrorists win -- there is no way around that fact. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them. To win this war on terror, a new strategy is required -- we must out-breed the enemy. They have a head start on us, but I'm confident that we'll be able to come back from behind to win. If not, we can always nuke them, but that's too extreme a solution for the time being and I would prefer a peaceful resolution to this problem. If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

You're finally getting there. Your efforts at satire thusfar have been hampered by the fact that you were saying things that every other conservative is saying. The "Bring Back Slavery" thread was a step in the right direction, but real conservatives are of that opinion too. They just call it "Prison Privatization."

The only conservative I know that agrees with this position is that woman whom Bush sent to the Middle East to promote Bush's agenda on women, only to discover that women who can become doctors care less about driving cars than they do about seeing an end to having their husbands and sons blown up in unprovoked wars of agression. So you've gone from promoting conservative opinions with conservative talking points, to promoting conservative views with what conservatives really think, to promoting a conservative opinion with a talking point used by a tiny minority of conservatives. A definite step in the right direction.

As for your 'point.' China tried the "if you can't out-perform 'em, out-breed 'em," strategy under Mao. It didn't work for them, it won't work for the Muslims.

Say, this is awesome! We've shut up MTAE! :D
I hope.

Say, this is awesome! We've shut up MTAE! :D
I hope.
It's only for the time being.

But MTAE is right! I'm going to buy a rifle and go hunt some muslims in my part of town. I'm going to do my part, are you?



Oh well, so he's not right. Nuking is going too far. I just go as far as to view islam as the greatest threat to the world. Together with the USA.

As for your 'point.' China tried the "if you can't out-perform 'em, out-breed 'em," strategy under Mao. It didn't work for them, it won't work for the Muslims.

That's because there was no heavy Chinese immigration to other regions. There were over 1 billion Chinese at the time, but they were all heavily concentrated in China and their extremism was non-existent even within China, and definitely not exported to other countries. When was the last time a Chinaman blew himself up in a crowded public place?

That's because there was no heavy Chinese immigration to other regions. There were over 1 billion Chinese at the time, but they were all heavily concentrated in China and their extremism was non-existent even within China, and definitely not exported to other countries. When was the last time a Chinaman blew himself up in a crowded public place?

So you are saying we should outbreed “Muslims” so we can export extremism and suicide bomb innocents?

If you laugh, the terrorists win.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!111 :eek:

*looks around*

That's because there was no heavy Chinese immigration to other regions. There were over 1 billion Chinese at the time, but they were all heavily concentrated in China and their extremism was non-existent even within China, and definitely not exported to other countries. When was the last time a Chinaman blew himself up in a crowded public place?

The subject was foreign immigration to our homeland, not immigration from the homeland to foreign nations. Also, there were plenty of bloody and explosive deaths in the Communist revolutions.
But then again, you really don't get it anyway, right?

I didn't even read the whole thing, but read most of it. And I can say to you:

You need to learn about Muslims and listen in 8th grade History.
I learnd about muslims in 8 grade lol

Gee, why am I not surprised at the author of this thread?

Gee, why am I not surprised at the author of this thread?
Because he's a moron?

MTAE, i am still waiting for a reply.

He takes the lowest common denominator and tries to "debate" that. He rarely if ever makes a point, and funny as it may be, he called himself a liberal. I wasn't even going to respond to this thread because as many would say "it's certified content free." Further, MTAE I'll end this debate quickly. Population size means nothing when you have superior fire power. The ability to kill far outweighs the ability to breed here. Finally, you make an ignorant assumption that every single muslim will turn to a life of extremism because...."you say so?" Now I'll stop feeding the troll as I've destroyed the central tenant of his "argument" in short order. :mp5:

Because he's a moron?

OFT

:D

Because he's a moron?

No, of course not. He's a smart, reasonable, compassionate teenager. :)

No, of course not. He's a smart, reasonable, compassionate teenager. :)

Let the damn thread die, and stop feeding the troll! :mad:

:headbang:

Yes! It all makes sense now!
Despite the fact we're much better off than the average muslim, we should force people to breed as fast as possible. This will of course lower our standard of living, but we'll have much more children that we can train to commit acts of terror in muslim countries! Then as our economy declines, immigration will nearly stop, maybe even reverse, and the situation will be reversed! We'll be the ones with low standards of living and high population and freedom will win the day!

Not "an innocent baby"

A non-sentinen embryo/fetus.

Not "an innocent baby"

A non-sentinen embryo/fetus.

Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave dig!

http://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/posters/images/preggersvictory.jpg

hopefully nobody posted that already...

hopefully nobody posted that already...

Excellent image, although this thread should be allowed to rest in peace.

As you know, we are engaged in a deadly struggle against Islamo-fascism. Unfortunately, they are winning. Each year, the Christian population increases by 2.3% (which, incidentally, is the rate of world-wide population expansion), yet the Islamic population balloons by 2.7%. At this rate, the Muslims will overtake the Christians in numbers by 2025. Already signs of this growing Muslim population are evident in Europe, where freedoms are being restricted so as not to offend intolerant Muslims. Soon, when Muslims are in the majority, Europe may very well be turned into an Islamic state. Well, we must not let the same thing happen in America. We must not allow the terrorists and extremist Muslims who hate our freedoms to win, like Europe is doing. We have tried to achieve this goal through war, but we failed to a certain extent -- the inexorable spread of Islam was not halted sufficiently. Many Muslims died, but not enough. We must seek other means of stopping this Islamic invasion of the world through their extremely high birth rates. We must formulate a defense against this clever ploy of inundating our population with Muslim immigrants. One method of doing this is to encourage non-Muslims to breed. We must heap tax incentives at the feet of those non-Muslims who wish to copulate. Also, we must criminalize abortion. Anybody who is willing to get an abortion is letting the terrorists win -- there is no way around that fact. If you kill an innocent baby, you are doing the terrorists' work for them. To win this war on terror, a new strategy is required -- we must out-breed the enemy. They have a head start on us, but I'm confident that we'll be able to come back from behind to win. If not, we can always nuke them, but that's too extreme a solution for the time being and I would prefer a peaceful resolution to this problem. If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

Sounds AWFULLY nazi.

Say, this is awesome! We've shut up MTAE! :D
I hope.

You can't shut up MTAE,he is immortal.

This is worse than the Europe thread. whats 'with' people today?

This is worse than the Europe thread. whats 'with' people today?

It's sunday. People have to work again tomorrow :p

1) Don't feed the troll
2) May this thread RIP

Excellent image, although this thread should be allowed to rest in peace.

Indeed an excellent image. You know why?

BECAUSE IT'S IRONICAL, AND YOU JUST MISSED HOW IRONICAL IT IS!

You are not a very smart person.

Indeed an excellent image. You know why?

BECAUSE IT'S IRONICAL, AND YOU JUST MISSED HOW IRONICAL IT IS!

You are not a very smart person.

"Ironical"... :D

*makes popcorn*

While I am opposed to abortion, and I believe demographically that Muslims will be the majority in Europe, I do find the OP to be a bit ridiculous. The government shouldn't be subsidizing popping out babies; there is a natural rate that people will tend to in order to increase or decrease the population that is freely made, and will reflect the optimum utility of an economy. The population can naturally regulate itself; we don't need a War Production Board for babies.

If you don't want an all-out war, you better be prepared to breed rapidly; it's the only other solution.

Hehehe... :D

http://foreignerinformosa.typepad.com/the_foreigner_in_formosa/images/the_leader_2.jpg

Is that what your were looking for Means, your a racist and an islamophobe man, please just go away and polish your confederate badge.

"Ironical"... :D

Ironic. Sue me, I'm not a native speaker. Yet I'm usually very articulate. And I can recognize irony when I see it.