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Asian people seem to be genetically lactose-intolerant

Err... you do realiese that Central Asian peoples such as the Mongols subsist on a diet with large quantities of horse milk, which has significantly larger amounts of laxctose than cows milk. They have a very low incidence of LI.

Also, Northern Indian population shows a significantly lower incidence as well.

That really should have been East Asian. ;) (And even then you run into problems...)

Which is funny, because unlike the Chinese, the Russians haven't actually done anything. They've always been behind. They still are.
*Cough* Sputnik *cough* *Cough* firstmanandwomaninspace *cough* *cough* firstspacestation *hack (not the mod)*

Sorry, had something in my throat. You were saying?

The whole Chuck Norris crap is old, lame, and just plain stupid. Get on with things and quit living last year's tired crappy shit.

Yes it is old, lame and just plain stupid. He could still round kick nation states into oblivion though. And don't forget is manbeard!

*Cough* Sputnik *cough* *Cough* firstmanandwomaninspace *cough* *cough* firstspacestation *hack (not the mod)*

Sorry, had something in my throat. You were saying?

no no that's just propaganda.
Like saying the american were the first on the moon.

ITS A CONSPIRACY I'S TELLS U!

*Cough* Sputnik *cough* *Cough* firstmanandwomaninspace *cough* *cough* firstspacestation *hack (not the mod)*

Sorry, had something in my throat. You were saying?

That's not so impressive. If the US had cared, they could have done it first, and those don't take much technical skill. Now first person on the moon, that's hard.

No, no, no! The Russians inwented everythingk! Don't you know anythingk about your history?*

*Huge cookie for the person who gets that reference.

Lt Checov: Star Trek. I don't remember the episode.

That's not so impressive. If the US had cared, they could have done it first, and those don't take much technical skill. Now first person on the moon, that's hard.
You don't remember the funny films of all those US rockets exploding on the pad, do ya?

That's not so impressive. If the US had cared, they could have done it first, and those don't take much technical skill. Now first person on the moon, that's hard.

Ah, but did that happen then?:p

Melville.

Anyhow: you claim the US has no culture pre-1956, so why doesn't Melville count as culture in your book?

To me culture is more of the countries traditional way of life, its food, its songs, its ancient achievements to its famous Buildings. And things only unqine to its coutries

Lets say i view Korea, I can view its Korean cusine, its grand temples and palaces that stretch back a thousands years. Its traditional clothing and languages and artwork that can only be truly Korean.

I say France and I see the French Revolution, the Notre Dane, the Eiffle Tower, its cooking(love that escargo), the Palace that once housed the great Kings and Queens of the country, to traditional wine-making in the south.

I see America and view the Statue of Liberty, Coke, the White house, New Orleans(one of the more cultural cities) the birth of Jazz, a melting pot for people. The American Revolution and Civil War to the Colonial Porttown of Boston. But now i asked you. Does America have a traditional food? What is its National dress (and i dont mean dressing up in stripes and stars)? Do the residents their have roots in America? Whats their National traditional way of life?

Its not right to say America has no culture but i can't view america as a very Cultural Countries. America is more like a copy and paste nation that change its life different from its Mother Kingdom. You copy the Brits and you paste it in America. Canada, Australia,New Zealand and Singapore(I live here) are copy and paste Nations.

No, no, no! The Russians inwented everythingk! Don't you know anythingk about your history?*

*Huge cookie for the person who gets that reference.

*Gets reference*


*Gets cookie*

To me culture is more of the countries traditional way of life, its food, its songs, its ancient achievements to its famous Buildings. And things only unqine to its coutries

Lets say i view Korea, I can view its Korean cusine, its grand temples and palaces that stretch back a thousands years. Its traditional clothing and languages and artwork that can only be truly Korean.

Hang on here, just a minute. You reject Melville because he made art, but embrace Korean artists because they made art?

No i rejected Meville cause i thought he was a coparation

But now knowing what he has done then yes

I embrace him as a cultural figure of America

But now i asked you. Does America have a traditional food?Thanksgiving turkey, hamburgers :p

What is its National dress (and i dont mean dressing up in stripes and stars)?Cowboy outfits

Do the residents their have roots in America?Isn't that a matter of how far you can trace your heritage? In the end we all have our roots in africa, somewhere.. (most likely)

What's their National traditional way of life?Capitalism.

But now i asked you. Does America have a traditional food?
Well, American fast food. While you can argue that pizza, hamburgers, and hotdogs orginally were eaten in various forms in Italy, Hamburg, and Europe, there current forms are American. Tex-Mex style foods is American. Cajun is American. So is turkey. Heck, they're all American as apple pie. ;)

A lot of the foods have been radically changed once they came here and crossed in with other seasonings and so on.

What is its National dress (and i dont mean dressing up in stripes and stars)?
Well, no one I know dresses in their national dress per-se, but if you want American clothing, look no further than Levis and blue jeans. Invented in America.

Do the residents their have roots in America?
Depends upon the American. My family streaches back to the early colonies in Virginia and Mass. Even longer in the case of one great, great, great, great uncle who was half Native American.

Whats their National traditional way of life?
The American dream still lives you know.

We're the great melting pot, or the large salad bowl, depending which one you like, but we have managed to blend in things to the point where they can only be called American. It's not exactly copied and pasted in, it's build up brick by brick into a new nation.

As to WHAT is American culture, we're still working that out. We were asked a long time ago, "What is this American, this new man?" and we still haven't come up with a good answer, except that he is American, unque as any other person on the globe.

In your response you have named several foods "perfected" in America but those foods were invented in the 20th century. Not what i call cultural food, plus that is all over the world, Jeans too which is invented in the 19th century is all over the world. I can say a "Singaporean Dream"(which is to make money)and turn it as my culture too...So either America is selling their culture ot they have a very weak one

In your response you have named several foods "perfected" in America but those foods were invented in the 20th century. Not what i call cultural food, plus that is all over the world, Jeans too which is invented in the 19th century is all over the world. I can say a "Singaporean Dream"(which is to make money)and turn it as my culture too...So either America is selling their culture ot they have a very weak one

People don't export their cultural foods you are saying? And I can't think of anything more American then blue jeans.

No i rejected Meville cause i thought he was a coparation

But now knowing what he has done then yes

I embrace him as a cultural figure of America

.

Heck, I dont think America even has a culture

So America does have a culture?

A small tiny phewny one taken up mostly by jazz and an African holiday that does not exsit in africa unless you want to add pop culture

Well i dont see China globalising the world with their food, nor do i see the indians, brazillians or any other country doing it

You dont see a McChina in America do you? or a KFChina or China Hut or Burger Emperor

A small tiny phewny one taken up mostly by jazz and an African holiday that does not exsit in africa unless you want to add pop culture

How does jazz not count as pop culture?

If they're so great, how come so many of them are dead?

cause Jazz actually exsited before the 20th century....

To me culture is more of the countries traditional way of life, its food, its songs, its ancient achievements to its famous Buildings.

Yes. America has all that.

And things only unqine to its coutries

Yes, America has that too.

I say France and I see the French Revolution,

I trump you with it's inspiration, the American Revolution.

its cooking(love that escargo),

More on this below.

to traditional wine-making in the south.

Burbon Whiskey.

I see America and view the Statue of Liberty, Coke, the White house, New Orleans(one of the more cultural cities) the birth of Jazz, a melting pot for people.

There's a whole lot more to American cuisine than Coke.

But now i asked you. Does America have a traditional food?

Many. In fact, as people have been telling you ad nauseum, there are numerous regional cuisines. What did you expect in a large country - one singular cuisine? That would be akin to saying all Chinese cuisine is the same.

What is its National dress (and i dont mean dressing up in stripes and stars)?

Again, there are several. Don't expect to see one traditional mode of dress. Would you expect all the peoples of China or Russia to dress exactly the same?

Do the residents their have roots in America?

Yes indeed, we do. In fact, knowing the history of Singapore (a small village until Raffles came along and started the heavy settling) and my own family history (1/4 Native American on my father's side, and 1600s on my mom's side), I'd say my people are quite likely to have been in North America well before yours were in Singapore.

Whats their National traditional way of life?

That's simply to broad and undefined to answer. What exactly do you mean?

Its not right to say America has no culture but i can't view america as a very Cultural Countries.

Neither statement is correct, as you are confusing 2 very different definitions of culture.

America is more like a copy and paste nation that change its life different from its Mother Kingdom.

That's just incorrect. Period.

You copy the Brits and you paste it in America. Canada, Australia,New Zealand and Singapore(I live here) are copy and paste Nations.

Err... do you really know nothing of US history?

In your response you have named several foods "perfected" in America but those foods were invented in the 20th century.

Hell no. The regional cuisines of the US were already quite well developed before the 20th century, in most cases by the middle of the 19th century, and in some very important cases (Cajun and Louisiana Creole cuisine, for example) well before*. And dismissing these foods as having been "perfected" in the US simply shows your ignorance. These are not copycat cuisines. And to put down any further questions regarding that particular point, stop and consider that

*Remember that New Orleans was already an important and well established port by the dawn of the 19th century.

Not what i call cultural food, plus that is all over the world, Jeans too which is invented in the 19th century is all over the world.

Sorry - that "sentence" makes no sense. :confused: :(

I can say a "Singaporean Dream"(which is to make money)and turn it as my culture too...So either America is selling their culture ot they have a very weak one

Again, my appologies. It seems your Singlish (?) is confusing me. :(

Tell me did you read the part where I said not everything?
Yes. But I just realized that after I pressed "Reply", and I couldn't be bothered to edit it.

cause Jazz actually exsited before the 20th century....

I think you're confusing ragtime with jazz. Care to name one jazz tune or artist who was making jazz that predates 1901? Aside from which, I fail to see how the existence of something prior to the turn of the C20th invalidates it as being pop culture: would you classify penny dreadfuls/dime novels as not being part of pop culture because they existed prior to your arbitrary date?

You seem to be flinging around a lote of ill-justified dates in your argument: first you claim that US culture only begins in 1926 or thereabouts, and that anything after 1956 doesn't count as culture, and now we have a further stipulation that anything which existed prior to 1901 can't be considered part of pop culture. Why?

Again, my appologies. It seems your Singlish (?) is confusing me. :(

Never again say that I use the language of the devil. The previous sentence was in perfect grammer, you just did not understand what i mean. But if you like I will dumb it down. It means America is putting their national food and dress out on sale in other countries all over the world.


Are you telling me that America has an ancient past that stretches back a thousand years ago and i dont mean Native Indians

"Burbon Whiskey."

You ask the 300 Million People in USA, I have a feeling half of them will ask what is it.

China does not have an identical chinese meal in every province, but at least it is still traditional to their province.

Copy and paste - it's an Analogy. Majority Americans are literaly just an altered version of people from their country of origin. So are the people of New Zealand, Canada, Australia and Singapore

Do you now get what i mean? or do you still need the help of understanding my "terrible singlish"

I think you're confusing ragtime with jazz. Care to name one jazz tune or artist who was making jazz that predates 1901? Aside from which, I fail to see how the existence of something prior to the turn of the C20th invalidates it as being pop culture: would you classify penny dreadfuls/dime novels as not being part of pop culture because they existed prior to your arbitrary date?

I'm going with Jelly Roll Morton's claim to have "invented" Jazz in 1902. ;)

http://www.neworleansonline.com/neworleans/music/musicgreats/jellyroll.html
http://www.historyexplorer.net/jazz_history_timeline/jazz_history_timeline_1817_ad_-_1935_ad/
http://www.doctorjazz.co.uk/page10.html
http://gatewayno.com/music/Jelly_Roll.html
http://www.jazzitude.com/morton.htm

I think you're confusing ragtime with jazz. Care to name one jazz tune or artist who was making jazz that predates 1901? Aside from which, I fail to see how the existence of something prior to the turn of the C20th invalidates it as being pop culture: would you classify penny dreadfuls/dime novels as not being part of pop culture because they existed prior to your arbitrary date?

You seem to be flinging around a lote of ill-justified dates in your argument: first you claim that US culture only begins in 1926 or thereabouts, and that anything after 1956 doesn't count as culture, and now we have a further stipulation that anything which existed prior to 1901 can't be considered part of pop culture. Why?


Do you just want me to say America has a damn Culture!

It means America is putting their national food and dress out on sale in other countries all over the world.So? It's no different than what the romans did. Any dominant power tends to export their culture.
Any culture tends to import things from other cultures. Religion being a prime example. The major religions of today come originated in either the middle east, or in india. The rest was just copied and pasted, and altered along the way. It goes for food, dress, architecture, science, philosophy, etc. Good things get copied, and bad things get copied if there's enough incentive to be like the 'original' (which usually borrowed it from earlier cultures anyway).
There is remarkable little 'originality' in culture. It just builds and builds on what there was before and what the neighbours have.

Do you just want me to say America has a damn Culture!Yes, with emphasis on the damn. (Because frankly, there's a lot of it I dislike)

Do you just want me to say America has a damn Culture!

No, I want to understand why you appear to have such a fiendish set of criteria in place for determining whether the USA has a culture or not:

a) nothing after Elvis
b) nothing before eighty years ago
and
c) nothing which existed prior to 1901

Why?


I also want to know whether you would consider dime novels/penny dreadfuls as pop culture. You do seem a tad evasive today.

Never again say that I use the language of the devil.

Again my apologies.

The previous sentence was in perfect grammer, you just did not understand what i mean.

The sentence immediately before was however, I didn't understand "I can say a "Singaporean Dream"(which is to make money)and turn it as my culture too" because it was not in recognisable grammar.

And how is "Not what i call cultural food, plus that is all over the world, Jeans too which is invented in the 19th century is all over the world." an example of a grammatical sentence?

If you can't make yourself clear, do not get upset when others cannot understand what you mean.

But if you like I will dumb it down.

No need to dumb it doen (or be insulting). Just be clear. Good grammar is your friend in clarity, while bad grammar is not.

It means America is putting their national food and dress out on sale in other countries all over the world.



Are you telling me that America has an ancient past that stretches back a thousand years ago and i dont mean Native Indians

:confused: Please go back and read what I wrote.

"Burbon Whiskey."

Yes, and?

You ask the 300 Million People in USA, I have a feeling half of them will ask what is it.[QUOTE=Aronnax]

:confused:

[QUOTE=Aronnax]China does not have an identical chinese meal in every province, but at least it is still traditional to their province.

Which is exactly the point.

Copy and paste - it's an Analogy. Majority Americans are literaly just an altered version of people from their country of origin. So are the people of New Zealand, Canada, Australia and Singapore

No. Just plain no.

Do you now get what i mean? or do you still need the help of understanding my "terrible singlish"

Do not put words in my mouth.

Why do i think America has no culture prior to 1901

because.......


Drum roll please...















































































I JUST SEE NO CULTURAL REFERENCE OR ACHIEVEMENTS BECAUSE AMERICA IS JUST A BIG CAPITALIST COUNTRY ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY!!!

i could go on and on but i feel like i will be flamed back at you people because of what i think.

Do you just want me to say America has a damn Culture!

No. You've made repeated mistaken assumptions and various people are clarifying them.

Okay I will admit it America has a Culture okay there!! But compared to other countries, America's culture is so very almost insignfigant this is what I think

Good Bye
Good Luck
and Good Riddiance

can we please go back to china!!!

Why do i think America has no culture prior to 1901 Edgar Alan Poe? Mark Twain (up to 9 years before the end of his live, as he lived up to 1910)? And certainly dozens of other writers, which I won't go around naming..
And there's some brilliant architecture, if memory serves me..

Why do i think America has no culture prior to 1901

because.......

Drum roll please...

I JUST SEE NO CULTURAL REFERENCE OR ACHIEVEMENTS BECAUSE AMERICA IS JUST A BIG CAPITALIST COUNTRY ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY!!!

i could go on and on but i feel like i will be flamed back at you people because of what i think.

No one has flamed you yet, and I doubt it will happen, so long as you continue discussing in a reasonable manner. Shouting at people, as you did above, is not condusive to reasonable discussion. Please don't do it.

As for the rest of your post, various people have pointed out where you are making mistakes. You have yet to honestly reply, as far as I can see.

Why do i think America has no culture prior to 1901

because.......

BECAUSE AMERICA IS JUST A BIG CAPITALIST COUNTRY ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY!!!

So in order to justify why you believe America has no culture, you describe American culture? In what way is extreme capitalism not a defining part of US culture? You might not like it, but denying that it counts as culture is self-contradicting.

Okay I will admit it America has a Culture okay there!! But compared to other countries, America's culture is so very almost insignfigant this is what I think

How would US culture rate compared to, for example, Canadian or Australian culture?

Okay I will admit it America has a Culture okay there!! But compared to other countries, America's culture is so very almost insignfigant this is what I think

Good Bye
Good Luck
and Good Riddiance

If you are not willing to listen to what others have to say, you will have a lot of trouble ahead of you, both here and in real life.

can we please go back to china!!!

Heh - welcome to NSG - threads here rarely resemble the OP after this many posts.

can we please go back to china!!!

What are you, some kind of communist? Go back to Russia.

What are you, some kind of communist? Go back to Russia.


Going back to the topic on China

Going back to the topic on China

That's unlikely to happen for a variety of reasons.

1) The OP's really been answered (no, the Chinese didn't invent everything first).

2) Long threads wander off topic naturally as more interesting points of discussion are raised.

3) It's been quite a few posts since the OP was the topic, and few people are showing interest in persuing it.

If you were the OP, you could make a request for it's closure on the grounds that it has wandered so far. But you aren't, so don't worry about it.

If you feel there's anything to add to the OP, please feel free to do so. Just don't demand that others do so.

okay then.......

Allow me to join the shitfight. USA does have a culture. What you seem to be having difficulty with is the fact that it does not have a food-based culture (like the Chinese or the Italians) but rather an entertainment based culture. Furthermore, it is not ancient. This is irrelevant to it's status as a 'culture-bearer' (anyone notice the accidental Mein Kampf reference?). Furthermore, I would go so far as to say you would be better of describing USAmerican culture as a dominant (but distinct) branch of 'Western' culture.

BWO made an astute point on Australia and Canada and their respective cultures in comparison to that of USA. The reality is that they are in the same boat. All western nations have very much the same culture, with slight variations. Some eastern nations increasingly exhibit this too.

Nobody knows why, but USA exports much more culture than they import, and we all buy it. I can't understand it, but everybody is doing it. Chances are that you are come from a western cultral background. As such much of Western culture won't even make a blip on your radar, as it is inground in your identity and value structure.

The best way to note you cultral values and attitudes is to observe the curious attitudes and values of foriegners and compare then to what you think is normal. That is what western culture is. To foriegners it is as diverse, weird and interesting as is their culture.

I only wish we were a food-based culture... :(

Daistallia, are you Australian? I know your location bar says no, but I keep getting the gist that you are....

I JUST SEE NO CULTURAL REFERENCE OR ACHIEVEMENTS BECAUSE AMERICA IS JUST A BIG CAPITALIST COUNTRY ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY!!!
That makes no sense. A lot of East Asian countries have heavy, heavy Chinese influences because China exported itself all over the place where it could. Romans did the same, so did the French, the Germans, and, of course, the Brits are past masters at making everywhere they go seem like the UK.

And all countries are interested in making money. Hell, Japan is the second largest economy in the world and China has been hot for years now, and yet both of them have culture (and are doing their level best to promote it too. Anime and Chinese films leap instantly to mind). The only difference right now is that America dominates the exportation of its own culture to where it just seems like it's everywhere and not a part of Americana.

Part of that is just being the economic powerhouse that it is and part of it is due to military strength and the last gasps of the Cold War where winning hearts and minds usually involved Hollywood blockbusters and Big Macs. But it doesn't mean that there is no culture here. In fact, life is very different from what other countries take to be American (As I have found out living in Japan and finding people who take everything from Hollywood as truth carven in stone).

It also makes me laugh that when i think that while China was building the great War of China (Around 200BC) The British,easten europe and French inhabitants were still living in tribes and small villages, Spain and portugal was overun with muslim(not that there is anything wrong with them) Not counting the Roman empire and the greek nations, the next most advanced civilization in Europe were the vikings or franks! And the chinese already exsited for around 2000 years already living in grand cities!

You're wrong about one small thing. ARABS overran Spain and Portugal at the time. The Muslim religion didn't start until about 150 AD but ity took off quick and was the major religion by 250 AD. I'm not sure why, but everyone seems to think that the muslim religion began before christanity. Muhamad wasn't even born when Jesus died and the muslim movement didn't start until after Muhamad's death.

But sticking with the topic, the Chinese did invent a lot of things before The Europeans took credit for them. But this was true of nearly every ancient civilization. Until about 150 years ago, America didn't have the comforts and items that the classical Romans and Greeks took for granted. In fact most of what Christians say are moral values that the Bible taught to the world and knowing right from wrong was all in Hummarabi's Code of Law. The very first civilization in the world even had laws to not kill, steal, cheat, assult, and even having incestuous relations was known as bad, which somehow the noble and supposedly Intelligent royalty forgot when they started inbreeding. In fact, the Code of Law even had an early form of a malpractice suit. If a carpenter built a faulty item and someone died because of it, he'd either get a hand cut off or killed. And doctors that killed a patient while fixing something simple like a broken nose was killed.

In fact, the Code of Law even had an early form of a malpractice suit. If a carpenter built a faulty item and someone died because of it, he'd either get a hand cut off or killed. And doctors that killed a patient while fixing something simple like a broken nose was killed.

This just raises the question of what happened to an executioner if he failed to kill a condemned man?

Daistallia, are you Australian? I know your location bar says no, but I keep getting the gist that you are....

Nope. Texan living in Japan. I just happen to run with a lot of Aussies, and it rubs off on me.

(As I have found out living in Japan and finding people who take everything from Hollywood as truth carven in stone).

Just for curiousity, could you do me a favor and expand on that one?

You're wrong about one small thing. ARABS overran Spain and Portugal at the time.

Err... no. The Muslim invasion of Iberia (which began in 711) was primarily carried out by the Berbers, not Arabs (Tariq ibn-Ziyad's army of 7000 only had around 500 Arabs in it).

The Muslim religion didn't start until about 150 AD but ity took off quick and was the major religion by 250 AD.

1) It's Islam, not "the Muslim religion".

2) Seeing as Mohammad lived from 570 to 632 AD, he'd have had a hard time starting Islam in 150 AD.

I'm not sure why, but everyone seems to think that the muslim religion began before christanity.

Say what? Nobody I know thinks that.

Muhamad wasn't even born when Jesus died and the muslim movement didn't start until after Muhamad's death.

1) Again, it's Islam, not "the Muslim movement".

2) The Islamic calendar starts in 622. Mohammad was still very much alive at that time.


But sticking with the topic, the Chinese did invent a lot of things before The Europeans took credit for them. But this was true of nearly every ancient civilization. Until about 150 years ago, America didn't have the comforts and items that the classical Romans and Greeks took for granted. In fact most of what Christians say are moral values that the Bible taught to the world and knowing right from wrong was all in Hummarabi's Code of Law. The very first civilization in the world even had laws to not kill, steal, cheat, assult, and even having incestuous relations was known as bad, which somehow the noble and supposedly Intelligent royalty forgot when they started inbreeding. In fact, the Code of Law even had an early form of a malpractice suit. If a carpenter built a faulty item and someone died because of it, he'd either get a hand cut off or killed. And doctors that killed a patient while fixing something simple like a broken nose was killed.

I'll let someone else pick that apart.

Just for curiousity, could you do me a favor and expand on that one?
For example, I have often been asked how many guns I own (all Americans own guns after all). I have been asked about if it's true that people are killed all the time (Crime is bad, but not quite that bad). I have been asked about American freedoms (Japan, especially, has this golden ideal that everyone in America is free to do whatever they want, whenever they want. Things like laws on alcohol comes as a shock to them).

Other things like:

All Americans are loud
All Americans are patriots
All Americans are big (not just tall)
All Americans are fat
All Americans eat hamburgers every day
All Americans eat pizza every day
All Americans can drink anyone under the table
All Americans are friendly and kind
All American men are nice to their girlfriends
All American women are big busted
All American women are stubborn, and bitchy (to the great sadness of many American women, many Japanese men are afraid to approch them because of this)
Daistallia 2104, you got any to add to this list?

And so on and so forth. Imagine that all the really popular movies are taken as how life in America really is, then run away in horror at the thought.

Daistallia 2104, you got any to add to this list?

Let's see...

Americans eat steak everyday.
Americans don't eat rice at all.
Americans are incappable of using chopsticks.
All American men are well endowed.
All Black men are especially well endowed.
All Black Americans are dangerous criminals.

And this applies accross the board to almost all nationalities.

One of the funniest things a student ever said to me was in regards to having her bubble burst about the English. She'd just come back from a home stay in the UK, and we were talking about British TV. She said "I thought all Englishmen were gentlemen.... until I saw Benny Hill!"