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About 20 minutes ago Steve Erwin died. He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest. He was swimming off the Low Isles (Batt reef) at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary when it happened. Steve Erwin was one of Australia's leading enviromental activists and creater of Australia Zoo.

http://www.bcec.com.au/www/images/qld_croc_hunter.jpg

Meh. It was bound to happen eventually. That's one of the hazards that comes with the job. Good man, though. Sad to see him gone.

EDIT: Waaaaiiiittt.... Google doesn't have anything to say about it... Give me evidence, please.

That sucks. Do you have a source though?

I heard it on the radio, lemme see if I can find one online...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html

Aww, man, my brother and I grew up watching Croc Hunter. :(

Sure, he was crazy and weird, but I always liked him...

It's on CNN.com now.

I'm not exactly surprised it's happened, considering his lifestyle, but I still think it's really sad since he has small kids and everything. Poor kids.:(


*retreats to her shadowy corner*

I heard it on the radio, lemme see if I can find one online...

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html

Ugh... Crap... Nevermind about my previous statement.

God that sucks. Really does. Loved him as much as a heterosexual man could love another heterosexual man.

I think we all saw this coming, it is sad that it happened, but given his nature to provoke animals. Sooner or later one of them would've gotten pissed off and just let him have it.

I think we all saw this coming, it is sad that it happened, but given his nature to provoke animals. Sooner or later one of them would've gotten pissed off and just let him have it.

He didn't even provoke it, it was a freak accident. 'Parently he was just filming a stingray, when it stung him in teh chest...

I never thought a stingray would get him.

Wiki's updated for it as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin

Rest in peace man, I enjoyed the show.

He didn't even provoke it, it was a freak accident. 'Parently he was just filming a stingray, when it stung him in teh chest...

Animals are weird, they even get upset if you're too close to them. Remember that woman who sat next to the bear, and the next thing you knew the bear attacked her? She didn't do anything either.

I never thought a stingray would get him.

It shoulda been a croc.

Crikey!






But yeah, a stingray? That's pretty lame for a guy who's been attacked by far more interesting creatures.




That being said, good on him for the conservation work and things.

It shoulda been a croc.

No, this way it was quick and sudden, with a croc attack, well...

:(

No, this way it was quick and sudden, with a croc attack, well...

Yeah, that's true, but it would be an appropriate send-off.

And with all that adrenaline pumping during a croc attack, it couldn't hurt THAT much...

Locals around here are laughing though. Steve Irwin did take his kid into a crocodile pit after all, and generally gave Australians a bad name apparently.

Locals around here are laughing though. Steve Irwin did take his kid into a crocodile pit after all, and generally gave Australians a bad name apparently.

*Is local, ain't laughing*

He didn't even provoke it, it was a freak accident. 'Parently he was just filming a stingray, when it stung him in teh chest...

For a guy who spent his life provoking crocs and snakes, ironic.

It's pretty sad, I loved that guy. Me and my friends kept making the Steve Irwin impersonation "LOOK, THERES A CROC!". People on the street just gave us the weird looks.
Word on him for his documentaries and benefits to wildlife.

generally gave Australians a bad name apparently.
:confused:
Not really. He's a hero to a generation of American kids...

About 20 minutes ago Steve Erwin died. He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest. He was swimming off the Low Isles (Batt reef) at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary when it happened. Steve Erwin was one of Australia's leading enviromental activists and creater of Australia Zoo.

http://www.bcec.com.au/www/images/qld_croc_hunter.jpg

Holy shit!

That had to hurt.

Holy shit!

That had to hurt.

Apparently, he died instantly. A razor-sharp blade delivering strong toxins to your heart'll do that to you.

Requiescat in pace

*Is local, ain't laughing*

Dunno, I'm in a room full of them, and they're laughing. They certainly didn't like him.

:confused:
Not really. He's a hero to a generation of American kids...

On screen maybe. Based on what I'm hearing here, they didn't like him as a person as opposed to his on screen persona.

This brings to mind Josef Stalin's famous qoute: 'the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' (paraphrased)

I thought of that because his death actually affected me, and made me pause. I mean, how many other people died today? Will they be remembered? No, this will only been known, (unofficially, I'm sure) as the day before labor day, the day Steve Irwin died.

Yes, LNI, his is kind of a hero to some people.

He didn't even provoke it, it was a freak accident. 'Parently he was just filming a stingray, when it stung him in teh chest...

Maybe the stingray was making its own show: "Oh, here comes a human, let's see how he reacts when stung in the chest"

It's very sad, although, I guess, fitting.

This brings to mind Josef Stalin's famous qoute: 'the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' (paraphrased)

I thought of that because his death actually affected me, and made me pause. I mean, how many other people died today? Will they be remembered? No, this will only been known, (unofficially, I'm sure) as the day before labor day, the day Steve Irwin died.

Yes, LNI, his is kind of a hero to some people.

It will be known as "Black Sunday" here (http://www.cayman.org/divesite/stingray.htm)

Crikey!

He'd have appreciated the humor of that.

So long, Mr. Crocodile Man. :(

No, this will only been known, (unofficially, I'm sure) as the day before labor day, the day Steve Irwin died.
Actually, no, I'm pretty sure he died after midnight, making Labor Day the day he died...

they didn't like him as a person as opposed to his on screen persona.
Yeah, I did hear somewhere that he was kind of an asshole off-screen...

Wow, ytmnd.com responded fast:

http://irwinrip.ytmnd.com/

And they are already making parodies of it:

http://lolstingray.ytmnd.com/

I can't believe how depressing that is to me.

http://irwinrip.ytmnd.com/
I'm surprised they didn't use that Simple Plan song...

http://lolstingray.ytmnd.com/
LMAO!

To you Mr. Irwin. It's a shame too he has such a young kid. They say he died instantly though, the Stingray barb went right through his heart.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin_dies

Damn....I always imagined a croc to get him. But...still....on Yahoo it said a stingray barb to the heart...so something musta pissed it off enough to defend itself.

Apparently, he died instantly. A razor-sharp blade delivering strong toxins to your heart'll do that to you.

Lucky bastard....

Oh Damn.. I was hoping I'd find some sort of joke when I looked in. That sucks. He was alright. :(

Nobody can say that he was a cautious man.

Maybe they'll rename the Darwin Awards in honor of the passing.

Lucky bastard....

How emo.

Between everything he has done, he dies to a stingray barb through the chest. Well fuck.

How emo.

Well, I can't say I'd die without pain for sure.

Between everything he has done, he dies to a stingray barb through the chest. Well fuck.

And in a Finding Nemo/Shark Tales kind of world, you know the stingray would be like, "He *had* to be stopped man! We all know what that freak is capable of and it just felt like the right thing to do!!"

I can not say how sad I am to hear of this. I always felt that his work would get him one day, but I figured that it would be a snake.

Blesses Be steve, thanks your for all the gasps, "Is that man NUTS?" and meeps through out the years!

My goodness out of all things to kill him it was simply a freak accident.

I liked the guy, sad to see that after all that could kill him over his career it was a stingray.

On screen maybe. Based on what I'm hearing here, they didn't like him as a person as opposed to his on screen persona.

I'd find it pretty difficult to believe he wasn't much different to what he protrayed on-screen.
A recent docu I watched on him had him and Terri up north, heading towards Darwin. They came across a bush fire and Irwin jumped out of the cab and ran into the still smoldering, lit bush. He was running around leaping over flames searching for lizards and snakes to save. He came across a couple that were too badly burnt and slowly dying, and honestly, he was near tears. He carried them around hugging them until they died.

That sort of stuff is pretty hard to fake, if you ask me.

generally gave Australians a bad name apparently.

how so?


another dead hero

Aww, man, my brother and I grew up watching Croc Hunter. :(

Same. Me and my entire family grew up with him. We liked him because he was funny and taught us things, and I am sad to know that he is dead. Oh well. I guess we'll just have to move on. He taught countless people so much, and I'm glad he did so much with his life.

Tt's quite shocking. You'd never expect legends to die, but sometimes they do, and that really can make an impact.

I'll miss him greatly. A personality like his would be nearly impossible to replace. On that note, I'm even more stunned that he died filming a stingray out of all things. I bet there are a number of broke people that lost that bet to someone that he'd die to a croc.

Anyways, my condolences to his family.


And boy you guys are on the ball...only three hours since he died and you've already made page 3! :eek:

I wonder if there was a pool going around on how he would die. Whoever bet on "freak accident" is raking it in now.

Though, those betting on animal related freak accident as opposed to death related to stepping on a rusty nail are raking it in.

Man, that is really sad. He was only 44. I have that aching feeling in my heart :(

He was so my childhood hero.

My God. Man. Jesus Christ. This sucks.

Though, those betting on animal related freak accident as opposed to death related to stepping on a rusty nail are raking it in.

Yea, but comon how many pools involving this guy's death would actually have "animal related freak accident"? Most of them, like I initially thought, that he provoked the attack.

Ran across mention of this on the Drudgereport just before I logged in here. Damn, that truly sucks. I hope to hell it was one of those situations where he never knew it happened. A lingering death is nothing I'd wish on anyone. I feel sorry for his wife and kids. This is gonna be really rough on them.

On the bright side,and I know it is a cliched thing to say, but he at least got to die while doing something he truly loved to do. I hope I can go that way.

Just wish it hadn't happened when he was still so damned young.

It's surprising people still mourn the loss of someone who was careening towards an untimely demise from the start. At this rate there's going to be a state funeral if and when the cast of Jackass gets wiped out.

Those clowns? I thought their 15 minutes had finished already?

It's surprising people still mourn the loss of someone who was careening towards an untimely demise from the start. At this rate there's going to be a state funeral if and when the cast of Jackass gets wiped out.As I am surprised when someone with no perceptible empathy whatsoever posts in forums where the only "prize" is interaction with other posters.

As I am surprised when someone with no perceptible empathy whatsoever posts in forums where the only "prize" is interaction with other posters.

Maybe if you pretend Steve Irwin was brown and said "Allah Ackbar" instead of "Crikey" all of that "empathy" will magically disappear.

It's surprising people still mourn the loss of someone who was careening towards an untimely demise from the start. At this rate there's going to be a state funeral if and when the cast of Jackass gets wiped out.

I actually feel bad about this. You’re less feeling than me. Must suck.

Maybe if you pretend Steve Irwin was brown and said "Allah Ackbar" instead of "Crikey" all of that "empathy" will magically disappear.

That would change nothing. You've likely mistaken me for someone else.

I actually feel bad about this. You’re less feeling than me. Must suck.

If nobody feels bad for that Darwin Award winning moron who broke into a polar bear exhibit in a drunken stupor and kicked a sleeping male in the testicles, why should there be a wake for someone who practically did that for a living?

Oh wait, it's because he's famous.

Irwin was a moron and his documentaries are completely pointless. Darwin Awards sounds good.

Maybe if you pretend Steve Irwin was brown and said "Allah Ackbar" instead of "Crikey" all of that "empathy" will magically disappear.

Grow up. There's people trying to pay their respects to a great man. A great man who was a hero to kids everywhere, a great supporter of world-wide animal conservation efforts, and created Australia Zoo.

Y'know the wierd thing. I swam with about 20 wild stingrays before. They were quite passive creatures in my opinion.

My condolences to Steve's family. Well, in the end I guess this is the way you'd have wanted to go.

Well, Steve, this is my adeiu.

"By Crikey!"

Irwin should be up for Darwin Awards.

Even better, should change the name to the Irwin Awards. Still rhymes.

Grow up. There's people trying to pay their respects to a great man. A great man who was a hero to kids everywhere, a great supporter of world-wide animal conservation efforts, and created Australia Zoo.

Well, four-year-olds are very easily impressed. But that's not heroism.

Can't say I liked him much, but I do feel sorry for his family.

:confused:
Not really. He's a hero to a generation of American kids...

....who have grown up thinking everyone from Australia talks like an idiot and wrestles crocodiles for a living. As if Paul Hogan wasn't fucking enough.

how so?


another dead hero
Hero?

Well, four-year-olds are very easily impressed. But that's not heroism.
Yes, you're right.
Irwin doesn't deserve our sympathy because you've done so much more than he did, haven't you?

....who have grown up thinking everyone from Australia talks like an idiot and wrestles crocodiles for a living. As if Paul Hogan wasn't fucking enough.

Hogan was just a guy paid to play a part that latched onto the short attention span of the American Public briefly and typecast him in that role for his public career.

Irwin actually lived that crap, which is a lot more unsettling.

Hogan was just a guy paid to play a part that latched onto the short attention span of the American Public briefly and typecast him in that role for his public career.

Irwin actually lived that crap, which is a lot more unsettling.


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Hogan was just a guy paid to play a part that latched onto the short attention span of the American Public briefly and typecast him in that role for his public career.

Irwin actually lived that crap, which is a lot more unsettling.

'mmm, true.

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No, he's got a point. Look, I didn't wish the guy ill, but I really can't understand why people are treating him as some kind of hero.

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Wow, that "ignoring" of yours has struck a severe blow to my ego. Did you learn that dramatic snub from William Shatner?

:gundge:

Wow, that "ignoring" of yours has struck a severe blow to my ego. Did you learn that dramatic snub from William Shatner?
Hey! Shatner's got far more style than that!

For a start it'd be;
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Yes, you're right.
Irwin doesn't deserve our sympathy because you've done so much more than he did, haven't you?

Almost everyone does something more meaningful than he did. Irwin doesn't deserve our sympathy because he made an entertainment out of inappropriate encounters with (potentially) dangerous animals. Through his "work" he cultivated disrespect of animals. Of course kids love trash like that.
The true heroism is that of the stingray which killed the idiot.

Almost everyone does something more meaningful than he did. Irwin doesn't deserve our sympathy because he made an entertainment out of inappropriate encounters with (potentially) dangerous animals. Through his "work" he cultivated disrespect of animals. Of course kids love trash like that.
The true heroism is that of the stingray which killed the idiot.

more meaningful, huh?
So in your opinion, you've done more meaningful things than Irwin, who expanded the Australian zoo, which employs over 500 people, instituted and founded conservation projects, raised awareness through-out Australia and the World about Oz fauna, and endangered species, raised millions for conservation, and entertained and educated millions worldwide about Australian flora and fauna and thereby pretty much created a new type of tourism for Oz which created jobs and poured millions into that country.

Oh, yeah. Nothing meaningful.:rolleyes:

While I do feel terribly sorry for his wife and children, Im afraid to say, it doesnt come as a surprise.

Animal conservation is one thing, but this guy was a lunatic.

He did do some good, and thats what makes me have a smidge of respect for him, but to take those kinds of unnessecary risks with two small children...

Kind of a douche.

I always figured it would be a snake.

Animal conservation is one thing, but this guy was a lunatic.

i don't know man, i don't think a lunatic would have been able to do what he did. sure, it all looked crazy, but the man was fucking good. i'd say it was the combination of really solid knowledge and technique combined with his ridiculous level of enthusiasm that made it look so crazy to the rest of us.

Well, that was unexpected and sudden.

This will be a sad day for Irwin fans, and I feel sorry for a friend who was a fan of him.

At least he died, well, doing what he enjoyed and was best at. At the very least. Nature was a huge part of his life and nature was in essence, his best friend and greatest enemy (well, before himself, as he takes risks a lot), and it ultimately was the death of him.

May he rest in peace.

i don't know man, i don't think a lunatic would have been able to do what he did. sure, it all looked crazy, but the man was fucking good. i'd say it was the combination of really solid knowledge and technique combined with his ridiculous level of enthusiasm that made it look so crazy to the rest of us.

The same people who bitched about Michael Jackson dangling his kid from a balcony probably didn't even bat an eyelash when Irwin dangled his kid over a live croc. Good thing it wasn't hungry; those suckers can jump out of the water pretty good as it is.

Hero?

you'll have to excuse me, but i have a big soft spot for entertaining, effective, and charismatic naturalists and conservationists. always have.

The same people who bitched about Michael Jackson dangling his kid from a balcony probably didn't even bat an eyelash when Irwin dangled his kid over a live croc. Good thing it wasn't hungry; those suckers can jump out of the water pretty good as it is.

but you see, there's a difference between looking dangerous and really being dangerous. and part of that difference lies with who is actually performing a given action. steve irwin clearly knew his shit. michael jackson can barely hold his own weight.

Hey! Shatner's got far more style than that!

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He did pause a little too long between words now that I notice.

I bow before the True Shatner Master.

but you see, there's a difference between looking dangerous and really being dangerous. and part of that difference lies with who is actually performing a given action. steve irwin clearly knew his shit. michael jackson can barely hold his own weight.

Just the way he knew that stingray was going to shiv him. Riiight.

If the croc jumped up and snapped the kid down, it would have been the start of "The Funniest Faces of Death" video series.

i don't know man, i don't think a lunatic would have been able to do what he did. sure, it all looked crazy, but the man was fucking good. i'd say it was the combination of really solid knowledge and technique combined with his ridiculous level of enthusiasm that made it look so crazy to the rest of us.

A highly skilled lunatic is still a lunatic.

Im not saying that he didnt know what he was doing, Im just saying that doing what he did is like beekeeping.

Sooner or later, youre gonna get stung.

In his case the animal that did the stinging, killed him.

Unfortunate, but inevitable.

I certainly don't think of him as a hero, but it's sad that he has died.

To a Bonzer Bloke:

Steve Irwin...

The Crocodile Hunter...

My hero...

************

To the man who I worked hard to get a chance to even see you, to work with you, to laugh with you... Whom I will never meet, never work with, never laugh with...The Lost Dream.

All of my memorable Life, I have watched you on TV, staring whole-hearted into your face as you would risk Life and Limb saving the animals you so loved. You would take a gnarly bite to the leg to save Wes, who also got bit in the leg, and then as soon as you got out of the hospital, you would jump back in the water... It is truely a gift that you went out doing the one thing on this Earth you did best: Educating the people and saving the animals you, and I, love.

I have strived to help you in your goal, often risking my own life to save animals who would rather eat me and kill me for distrubing their territory, and doing my best to educate people: That snakes are not evil monsters wanting to eat us, that sharks are not surfing the oceans looking for the surfers to munch, and that Alligators are not waiting in the shallows for little 6-year-old girls to run up so they can eat them...Hopefully one day we will succeed...

I have aspired to be as you are: To dedicate my life to save animals, to serve the world in educating people, to protect those who need protection, to teach those who need to be taught, to serve this who need service. Though you are no longer here with us, fighting along side of us, bleeding along of us, you will forever be by our side, and you will forever be within My Heart

I send my deepest and most hearfelt condolences to Terri, Bindi, and Bob, Jr., his father Robert, Wes, Kelsie, the entire Australia Zoo team, and all of us out there how fight this battle saving animals worldwide, who have just lost the most heroic and most charismic man we will ever know, our greatest Wildlife Warrior, and our Best Mate.



Hooroo, mate, and remember....

CROCS RULES!!!!!!!!!

Say it isn't so... a childhood hero has left this world. May he wrestle with the eternal alligators in heaven now... or something to that effect.

Now, off for some shopping!

Not too many men get to die doing what they love doing.

God rest him.

While I do feel terribly sorry for his wife and children, Im afraid to say, it doesnt come as a surprise.

Animal conservation is one thing, but this guy was a lunatic.

He did do some good, and thats what makes me have a smidge of respect for him, but to take those kinds of unnessecary risks with two small children...

Kind of a douche.

I always figured it would be a snake.

Yep...or a penguin.....

That whole thing with the baby was just the tabs doing there job, taking the truth and screwing and twisting it till it in a state where it sells.

Another picture taken from a diffrent angle showed that he had about 10 men waiting to stop that croc if it did do something and there was a still a pretty good distance between the baby and the croc.

He knew what he was doing unlike us wh would not have a clue, like a person and a electric fence if he carefully reads the sign he knows not to toach it, if he is ignorant and ignores it he gets a real 'shock' (pun intended).

Reborn Constantinople;11636030']That whole thing with the baby was just the tabs doing there job, taking the truth and screwing and twisting it till it in a state where it sells.

Another picture taken from a diffrent angle showed that he had about 10 men waiting to stop that croc if it did do something and there was a still a pretty good distance between the baby and the croc.

He knew what he was doing unlike us wh would not have a clue, like a person and a electric fence if he carefully reads the sign he knows not to toach it, if he is ignorant and ignores it he gets a real 'shock' (pun intended).

if he knew what he was doing he would not be dead.

Animals, esp in the wild, are unpredictable.

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we clone him?

To quote Carlos Mencia: You were a DEE DEE DEE!!

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/mind_of_mencia/index.jhtml

Just something I've written that I've been posting on a few places like Myspace and other internet forums I frequent:

Steve Irwin 1962 - 2006.

Steve passed on from recieving a severe wound from a stingray barb which pierced his chest while filming a documentary in nothern Queensland. He later collapsed and died.

I've always been a passionate supporter of Steve, no matter what anyone has said. Some have looked at him as "that idiot who wrestles with crocs". I always looked upon him as a truly passionate man, with unlimited gentile kindness. Many people quickly looked at his high energy and exuberance and judged him to be a simple minded fool. Very few people looked past this to see the undeniable good in his heart and soul.

He was a passionate conservationist who wanted to save and serve this earth for it's worth. He wanted to save animals from extinction and stop the amount of land clearing taking place each day in the world. To quote from The Age -

"As well as saving animals from extinction, he is also determined to slow down the rate of land clearing in Australia. Irwin believes - in direct contrast with many ecologists and environmentalists - that Queensland premier Peter Beattie's moratorium on land-clearing permits announced late last month is nothing but "political posturing". "The damage is done," Irwin says.

...

When he is not travelling and making films, he is buying up land to revegetate and to breed endangered species upon. So far, the Irwins have bought 27,200 hectares, most of which is in the Murray-Darling Basin west of Brisbane. He has also bought land in Tasmania and the US and last year snatched up 100 hectares of heath land, with it's populations of greater gliders, wallabies, snakes and platypuses, near his zoo."

If you want to read more, the article is linked below:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/09/1055010919523.html

Think about what this man has done for the environment. He was a true legend in my books. I'll be remembering what he has done, and I'll be thinking of Terri, Bindi and Bob. I hope you all do the same.

Crikey mate! :(

Sure is unbelievable. Here's a n MSN article: Linky (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14663786/)

Died checking out wildlife. Fitting end for him. I was a big fan of him while I was 10. :( Sucks too, he had 2 small kids.

Think about what this man has done for the environment.

The environment? Hah! Think about what this man did with television - incredibly, he managed to shave off another few IQ points off the already borderline-moronic fare available. Ten minutes with Steve Irwin and I could feel my braincase melting.

Possibly tasteless..

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~nick_turner/images/irwino.jpg

:D

Possibly tasteless..

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~nick_turner/images/irwino.jpg

:D

i was just about to post something to that effect:

"RIP steve irwin. Crikey! should have worn sunscreen to block out the harmful rays"



but he really was a brilliant bloke, did wonders for animal conservation, and his enthusiasm, while slightly grating, was infectious.
RIP.

This brings to mind Josef Stalin's famous qoute: 'the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic.' (paraphrased)

I thought of that because his death actually affected me, and made me pause. I mean, how many other people died today? Will they be remembered? No, this will only been known, (unofficially, I'm sure) as the day before labor day, the day Steve Irwin died.

Yes, LNI, his is kind of a hero to some people.

I'm with you, Klitvilia. This isn't a great time for some people to be slagging off Irwin. Everything I've read so far is based on our relative ignorance of the full facts. We still don't know enough about how the incident actually happened, we don't know enough about Irwin's real life vs his persona (although we've already been treated to an anecdote about a whole roomful of Aussies laughing at his death (isn't that as much of a cliche about Aussies as anything Irwin ever did?), and we haven't yet been treated to the News of the World-type dirt-digging that no doubt will follow in the next week or two, telling us about how he "really" was a smuggler of endangered species, or a dealer in illegal ivory, or secretly cheated on his wife with the zoo's gorillas.

Until I see proof that he was the antichrist, I assume Steve Irwin was like the rest of us, and deserves credit for the good he did.


I loved Irwin for his enthusiasm for animal conservation and for animals themselves. Sure he was a showman, but that showmanship was a key to communicating to people who normally don't care about animals or their well-being. A good friend of mine once said: set yourself on fire and people will come to watch you burn, and IMO Steve Irwin was genuinely on fire for animals.

He reminded me of a teacher I had when I was young. Also fanatical about snakes -- and sharks, and spiders, and turtles, and insects, and even parasites. And yes, frequently he did "crazy" things to make his point or get our attention. There are now generations of us who've been "marked" and are still being marked by my teacher's passion and concern for wildlife and conservation.

FWIW, my teacher showed us that once you know how to take precautions with an animal, for its safety and yours, and if you concentrate on what you're doing, you can "dress up" what you're doing any way you like as long as you end up making the animal important and keeping it and you safe. And if you end up making a jerk of yourself that's okay as long as you don't make the animal look bad.

In my experience this is what Steve Irwin did. He made the animals the stars, even at the expense of letting some people think he was a reckless idiot (he wasn't; look carefully and notice he had taken care of the necessary precautions around snakes, crocs, and all the rest). Most of all, he loved the animals for being themselves and he taught millions of others to do the same. He didn't try to Disneyfy them to make them entertaining.

He was also careful to point out that when the animals got "grumpy" with him, it was his fault not theirs. That's probably what he'd say about the stingray.

Did he make mistakes sometimes? Probably. People who never make mistakes never make much of anything worthwhile. But behind the "crazy croc guy" image, he was a champion of animals and their conservation, and he has encouraged others to see animals in a better light.

I feel terrible about his wife and kids. Before some people keep dissing him, have a thought for their feelings.

I feel like I've lost a friend.

STEVE IRWIN
RIP
No animals were harmed in the making of this life

It's surprising people still mourn the loss of someone who was careening towards an untimely demise from the start. At this rate there's going to be a state funeral if and when the cast of Jackass gets wiped out.


Don't work with animals much, do you? There are two ways of being careful with animals. One way is to take all the precautions and be tedious. The other way is to take all the precautions and be entertaining and interesting and enthusiastic. But no matter how tedious you are with animals, it won't make you more careful. And no matter how careful you are with them, they can get you: their reflexes are quicker and they have a whole range defence mechanisms to protect them from creatures like us.

Comparing him to the cast of Jackass makes you look ignorant, not him.

Comparing him to the cast of Jackass makes you look ignorant, not him.

Comparing him to the cast of Jackass is dead-on. Steve Irwin: the mind reels as the eyes glaze over.

well I just got this over MSN:

if u havnt herd Steve Irwin died 2dy on d 4th of sept on d Barrier Reef near Cairns - he got stuck on a barb of a sting ray which peirced his Heart As a sign of Respect for the Australian cultural icon place a Turtle ( tu ) at the start of ur name and forward this to evrybody online

I must say the spelling is atrocious but yeah sad sad day I never thought the animals would get him:(

Just reading through the BBC news site for reader's reactions I came across this gem:
My young teenage daughter Femi-Whitney and I have spent many an evening, chilling in front of the TV and enjoying the experience as Steve brought us closer to wild animals we might never get to see in the flesh. We enjoyed the bonding sessions together, being able to marvel and discuss our common interest. We loved Steve for his passion, zeal and fearlessness and we will miss seeing him on TV in the future

Franklyn & Femi-Whitney hamilt..., Bromley
Now, say what you like about Irwin, but if he was able to get a (most likely) 25yr-old Chavette and her teenage daughter name Femi-Whitney (what a silly name - what the hell's wrong with a good solid name like Chantelle-Paris-Preston-Rooney?) chillin' in front of the box and bonding rather than out twocking cars, then surely we can all agree that he made the world a slightly better place.
Can't we?

About 20 minutes ago Steve Erwin died. He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest. He was swimming off the Low Isles (Batt reef) at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary when it happened. Steve Erwin was one of Australia's leading enviromental activists and creater of Australia Zoo.

http://www.bcec.com.au/www/images/qld_croc_hunter.jpg
OMG it is Patra Caesar!:)
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Yeah i heard it about the same time as you would have.
I think it is sick that they advertised it to the World before his wife even knew.
He might have been a bit excitable but he was doing good things.:(

I heard someone said it on a chat, I though he was kidding.

:(

I always imagined because of Mr Irwin's behaviour and attitude towards crocodiles that he would meet his death in the jaws of one, one day.

His death courtesy of a animal does not surprise me, and nor should it anyone.

For all his 'conservation work', this was all undone by his stupid disregard and disrespect for animal's 'breathing space': Wrestling, hugging, grabbing and kissing of crocodiles showed not a love of animals or a respect for their welfare and feelings, but an egotistical 'macho' man intent on showing he could do what he wanted to wild animals by means of conquering them.

I support conservation work and observing animals, but respecting animals and their breathing space is key.

Swim with crocodiles and follow others, and observe and respect, but grappling them for nothing but your own enjoyment is nothing but self satisfaction coming first before regards to the animal who will feel stressed (which could lead to heart failure), endangered, and under attack.

There are other wildlife enthusiasts and campaigners who make people aware of the beauty that is nature in much better and mature ways, bringing the same amount of awareness, education while respecting the animals.

Mr Irwin dangling his child in front of a crocodile was clearly horrifying on two levels:

1. He was goading the crocodile with what the crocodile saw as food.

2. Worse: He was doing this with a child, and his own child at that.


Hearing it was a Stingray's barb that killed him makes me sad with the knowledge that as someone has already commented in this thread, Stingrays are quite passive animals, and only use their barbted tail when attacked.

Hearing headlines scream "CROC HUNTER KILLED IN ATTACK BY STINGRAY" does not ring right thus, more likely the Stingray viewed it as vice versa.

I can quite easily imagine that Mr Irwin took it upon his ego trip to wrestle and grapple the Stingray, the Stingray became stressed, believed it was under attack and defended itself naturally.

My condolences are with Mr Irwin's family, but I am sad to say that perhaps Irwin should have had the foresight and thought about such hazards and think about his family instead of the egotastic fantasies he dreamt of to make his self look a 'macho man' who could conquer animals of nature.

He just never grew up.

Double Post.

at least that fuy from my school won't be bothering me eith this steve irwin stuff anymore.

I don't think it was THAT much of a tragedy. He died the way would have wanted to, the way he lived; Oddly. My only hope is that I can go the same way. My only regret is that his kids are so young and were denied a father. :(

He died the way would have wanted to, the way he lived; Oddly. My only hope is that I can go the same way.

Mudslide? Attacked by a band of feral clowns?

Possibly tasteless..

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~nick_turner/images/irwino.jpg

:D

Jesus, that was fast!

:D

Mudslide? Attacked by a band of feral clowns?

Struck in the groin by a bolt of lightning. :(

:(
I never really liked his show, but my siblings did and he seemed like a great guy...

Love him or hate him you can't miss him.

He was as much an icon as Stephen Hawking or Arnold Schawaneger(Ignore the spelling) which have all appeared in various parodies, cartoons etc in differenet guises.

He won't be forgotten and its a pitty we lost him so young.

Us Aussies won't have another Steve Irwin ever again because he was such a unique blend of Knowledge and enthusiasm in the field of Conservation and of course such a personality.

He'll be one of the few people we'll remember in Australian history when your asked to name "Famous Australians who aren't Athletes."

Rest In Peace

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/stingray.jpg

This Sucks he was like my idle when I was little and he got killed by a stingray!?!:confused:

Man, I thought someone was making it up - but it's true.

At least he died with a dangerous animal instead of a car crash or some mundane way. He died doing what he did best. His daughter must be completely gutted.

well I just got this over MSN:



I must say the spelling is atrocious but yeah sad sad day I never thought the animals would get him:(

lol. "Australian cultural icon". Yeah, he's up there with um...AC/DC, and...uh...I think that's it.

lol. "Australian cultural icon". Yeah, he's up there with um...AC/DC, and...uh...I think that's it.

Olivia Newton-John, umm.....

It is too bad.


But I have to say this-getting crushed by an ice sculpture skidding down the road while you're picking up your dry cleaning, that's a freak accident.

Swimming really close to a stingray and getting stung is relatively expected.

Just struck me with the way it kept saying 'freak accident.'

It is too bad.


But I have to say this-getting crushed by an ice sculpture skidding down the road while you're picking up your dry cleaning, that's a freak accident.

Swimming really close to a stingray and getting stung is relatively expected.

Just struck me with the way it kept saying 'freak accident.'

We all knew something like this would happen some day.

lol. "Australian cultural icon". Yeah, he's up there with um...AC/DC, and...uh...I think that's it.


But... I just can't get her out of my head! ;)

http://www.osobnosti.cz/images/gallery/3355.jpg
Kylie Minogue

It is too bad.


But I have to say this-getting crushed by an ice sculpture skidding down the road while you're picking up your dry cleaning, that's a freak accident.

Swimming really close to a stingray and getting stung is relatively expected.

Just struck me with the way it kept saying 'freak accident.'

What was freaky about it wasn't getting stung, it was getting killed. I think it's only the second or third confirmed stingray fatality in Australia's history.

Olivia Newton-John, umm.....

Les Patterson...

its not looking good!

liked the stingray pic btw....

But... I just can't get her out of my head! ;)



You should be so lucky.

Lucky, Lucky, Lucky.

I'll stop now before I do the locomotion.

liked the stingray pic btw....
I was always a Gerry Anderson fan.

*snip the ignorant crap*

You sit around and criticise people and things you know exactly two things about: jack and shit. Now Irwin may have been a strange guy with an odd love of animals, but he knew what he was doing and there was a reason for it. He never went and jumped on a crocodile to jump on a crocodile. He did it for conservation purposes or their own protection. You can't mvoe or tag something without restraining it first. In fact, he only restrained them in certain ways so as not to hurt them.

And what's more, maybe you should stop confusing Michael Jackson and Steve Irwin in the midst of a series of ignorant delusions. He never dangled a kid in front of a crocodile, but he did have the kid with him while feeding a crocodile.


Next time you think to open your mouth on a subject, don't.

And when did it go from a "freak accident" to an "attack"?

I think that any good Australia has given us only serves to counterbalance the evil of Rupert Murdoch. :p

I was always a Gerry Anderson fan.

Same here.

bugger.

Anderson fans can't be trolls.

From http://library.thinkquest.org/C007974/2_1sti.htm

Stingrays are not aggressive by nature. They lay on the sea bottom quite peacefully and only sting people who step on them (and fishermen removing them from their nets). The sting causes profuse bleeding and excruciating pain that can last for months, accompanied by large swellings. Large stingrays have enough force to break a wooden boat by lashing their tails. If a person is unlucky enough to be stabbed in the chest or abdomen, there may be another fatality reported.

Nasty thing ... stingray barbs

I think that any good Australia has given us only serves to counterbalance the evil of Rupert Murdoch. :p

Well, he's renounced his citizenship, so he's technically not our responsibility anymore. :p

Les Patterson...

its not looking good!


Oooh oooh, I've got it. Prisoner and Neighbours.

You sit around and criticise people and things you know exactly two things about: jack and shit. Now Irwin may have been a strange guy with an odd love of animals, but he knew what he was doing and there was a reason for it. He never went and jumped on a crocodile to jump on a crocodile. He did it for conservation purposes or their own protection. You can't mvoe or tag something without restraining it first. In fact, he only restrained them in certain ways so as not to hurt them.

And what's more, maybe you should stop confusing Michael Jackson and Steve Irwin in the midst of a series of ignorant delusions. He never dangled a kid in front of a crocodile, but he did have the kid with him while feeding a crocodile.


Next time you think to open your mouth on a subject, don't.

And when did it go from a "freak accident" to an "attack"?

He was a TV personality first and foremost.

The poster you are responding to is correct ... Irwin disturbed the animals in the wild. You don't need to to that. Observe yes...interfere....no.

*cuts the ignorant person with attitude speech*

*
Next time you think to open your mouth on a subject, don't.

I'm not likely to take your advice in the wake of your uninformed pants of a post, so save it, sunshine.

Can't face the truth about him? Fine don't accept.

Don't like my viewpoint? Debate it like a adult, and not like an Toddler having a hissy fit.

It saves me having to reply to you and having to consider you as an adult, when you're acting anything but.

Have a word!

The poster you are responding to is correct ... Irwin disturbed the animals in the wild. You don't need to to that. Observe yes...interfere....no.

Fear not. Somewhere out there, Marlin Perkins gave him a wedgie.

At least he died in a really cool way. The kind of death usually reserved for James Bond villains and the like.

Crikey, man. Crikey.

He was a TV personality first and foremost.

The poster you are responding to is correct ... Irwin disturbed the animals in the wild. You don't need to to that. Observe yes...interfere....no.

He was inherently and intrisicately wrong because apparently he assumed Steve Irwin was Crocodile Dundee.

Dangled his baby in front of a crocodile? Wrong.
Wrestles crocodiles for fun? Wrong.
Assumption that you can swim with crocodiles? Wrong.
Assumption reptiles have higher thought even on the level of warm blooded animals? Wrong.
Assuming the situation in which Irwin was killed? Stupid.
Assuming Irwin would try to wrestle or grapple a stringray? Even stupider.

Defending this obviously uneducated and ignorant self-righteous ass shows you too know nothing about nothing on the subject.

He was inherently and intrisicately wrong because apparently he assumed Steve Irwin was Crocodile Dundee.

Dangled his baby in front of a crocodile? Wrong.
Wrestles crocodiles for fun? Wrong.
Assumption that you can swim with crocodiles? Wrong.
Assumption reptiles have higher thought even on the level of warm blooded animals? Wrong.
Assuming the situation in which Irwin was killed? Stupid.
Assuming Irwin would try to wrestle or grapple a stringray? Even stupider.

Defending this obviously uneducated and ignorant self-righteous ass shows you too know nothing about nothing on the subject.

Ok...I should have clarified my statement I guess....but I assumed that you were bright enough to figure out the context of my post. My mistake.

In nice clear language so that you can grasp a simple context.

YOU DO NOT DISTURB ANIMALS IN THE WILD FOR THE WHIM OF A TV AUDIENCE.

I like the assumption you make that I know nothing on the subject. Guess you are the ignorant ass oh Pantless One ;)

My roots are in the country. I have worked and lived on farms and studs.

It is too bad.


But I have to say this-getting crushed by an ice sculpture skidding down the road while you're picking up your dry cleaning, that's a freak accident.

Swimming really close to a stingray and getting stung is relatively expected.

Just struck me with the way it kept saying 'freak accident.'
To be fair to the term 'freak accident', deaths due to stingray attacks are very rare.
Last one in Australia, according the Beeb was 1945.

Well, he's renounced his citizenship, so he's technically not our responsibility anymore. :p

You don't get out of it that easy. :p

Ok...I should have clarified my statement I guess....but I assumed that you were bright enough to figure out the context of my post. My mistake.

In nice clear language so that you can grasp a simple context.

YOU DO NOT DISTURB ANIMALS IN THE WILD FOR THE WHIM OF A TV AUDIENCE.

Which is no way, shape, or form nullifies my previous statements.

He was inherently and intrisicately wrong because apparently he assumed Steve Irwin was Crocodile Dundee.

I said that did I?


Dangled his baby in front of a crocodile? Wrong.

He presented his kid like bait in front of the crocodile, he dangled the kid.


Wrestles crocodiles for fun? Wrong.

He enjoyed it, he wrestled some for no reason other to show the cameras.

Assumption that you can swim with crocodiles? Wrong.

Nope, you are wrong. Wildlife cameramen, to catch shots of crocodiles underwater, film them underwater from a safe and respectable distance.


Assumption reptiles have higher thought even on the level of warm blooded animals? Wrong.

Assumption I said such a thing? Wrong.

Animals, cold or warm blooded can be stressed and can feel under danger.

Instinct, danger is a reaction, prolonged, it can be fatal.


Assuming the situation in which Irwin was killed? Stupid.

Assuming that was not the situation Irwin was killed, taking into consideration Stingray's passive nature? Stupid.


Assuming Irwin would try to wrestle or grapple a stringray? Even stupider.

Assuming Irwin would not try to wrestle or grapple a stingray, considering his record? Stupider still.



Defending this obviously uneducated and ignorant self-righteous ass shows you too know nothing about nothing on the subject.

Awww, I think Mr attitude likes me. ;)

Which is no way, shape, or form nullifies my previous statements.

do you see me disputing that?

I've not seen the baby thing...but stingrays are pretty placid from what i've seen....hell you can even swim or hitch a lift with the bigger manta's....

I am devistated by this news, he is a true legend, a great inspiration too me, his passing is very saddening, my heart is with his family.

He presented his kid like bait in front of the crocodile, he dangled the kid.

No, he fed a crocodile with one hand, whist holding the kid in the other. That's not presenting his kid like bait. He claimed it was a safe situation, and considering the guy knew a fair bit about crocodiles, I'm not going to dispute that.


:( I used to watch his show religiously. RIP Steve *wipes away tear*

Dangled his baby in front of a crocodile? Wrong.
He didn't 'dangle' his baby. He held her in his arm facing away from the croc, whilst feeding the croc with his other hand. Not safe, but not 'dangling'.
Wrestles crocodiles for fun? Wrong.
If you ever bothered to watch his shows properly, you would notice he nver wrestled crocs for fun. It was always to capture them for either tagging purposes or to move them somewhere safer.
Assumption that you can swim with crocodiles? Wrong.
Again, it's obvious you never watched his shows properly. He always ensured safety was the biggest priority when in the water if crocs might be near and stressed this often.
Assumption reptiles have higher thought even on the level of warm blooded animals? Wrong.
mmm....hmm. And you've never attributed human-responses to your pets or other animals either then?
Assuming the situation in which Irwin was killed? Stupid.
Not stupid, tragic.
Assuming Irwin would try to wrestle or grapple a stringray? Even stupider.
And pray tell how do you know that's what Irwin did? Nothing's been reported as yet what happened leading up to the attack.
Defending this obviously uneducated and ignorant self-righteous ass shows you too know nothing about nothing on the subject.
He grew up working in Australia zoo - it was his father's. He had 40 years experience living and working with crocodiles and other Australian wildlife. He was hardly uneducated and ignorant.
I think maybe it's someone else a lot closer to your keyboard who is the ignorant ass who knows nothing on this subject...

there goes one good man who love his family and his job

No, he fed a crocodile with one hand, whist holding the kid in the other.

Yes, but that is still dangling food of a more sizeable and alive nature in front of the crocodile, and the crocodile, could have easily, easily decided not to go for the food he presented but that which was presented in the other arm.


That's not presenting his kid like bait.

It is to the crocodile, and the danger was enhanced by it being 'feeding time'


He claimed it was a safe situation, and considering the guy knew a fair bit about crocodiles, I'm not going to dispute that.

If he knew enough about crocodiles, he would know feeding time does not mix with holding his baby at the same time.

Teh_pantless_hero you must be a asshole who knows fuck all on him

I said that did I?
No, that's why I used the word "assumed."


He presented his kid like bait in front of the crocodile, he dangled the kid.

No, he didn't.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/01/02/australia.crocodileman/

He enjoyed it, he wrestled some for no reason other to show the cameras.
Judging by your "knowledge" of the Bob Irwin incident, I'll let you try to prove that.


Nope, you are wrong. Wildlife cameramen, to catch shots of crocodiles underwater, film them underwater from a safe and respectable distance.
That is not swimming with them.


Assumption I said such a thing? Wrong.

Animals, cold or warm blooded can be stressed and can feel under danger.

Instinct, danger is a reaction, prolonged, it can be fatal.

Which is why Irwin took measures to relieve the animals stress after restraining it.


Assuming that was not the situation Irwin was killed, taking into consideration Stingray's passive nature? Stupid.
Hm, let's see what were the conditions the last time some one died to a stingray.
http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/magazine/47/stingray.htm

It looks like all stabbings and deaths mention no agitation or provocation of the stingray, but just swimming in the area.


Assuming Irwin would not try to wrestle or grapple a stingray, considering his record? Stupider still.
I don't know how much I need to say to outline the pure ignorance of the suggestion anyone would or even could wrestle or grapple with a stingray.

I think maybe it's someone else a lot closer to your keyboard who is the ignorant ass who knows nothing on this subject...
Hamsters, are you high?

Teh_pantless_hero you must be a asshole who knows fuck all on him

Careful, I hear it's dangerous to apply one's entire vocabulary in a single sentence.

Well, this sucks. A stingray? What are the odds? He's only the third recorded death by stingray.

About 20 minutes ago Steve Erwin died. He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest. He was swimming off the Low Isles (Batt reef) at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary when it happened. Steve Erwin was one of Australia's leading enviromental activists and creater of Australia Zoo.

http://www.bcec.com.au/www/images/qld_croc_hunter.jpg

I heard this earlier on the news, it's so sad :( his poor wife and kid. Haven't read through the rest of the thread but I was told that it doesnt often happen and that he's like the first person to die from it? I may be wrong, don't quote me on it, just what I've been told.

*snip*
Teh_pantless_hero you must be a asshole who knows fuck all on him

Am I reading TPH's post incorrectly, or are you all arguing for the same side? ;)

Am I reading TPH's post incorrectly, or are you all arguing for the same side? ;)

I think Hamsters has gotten into a little something something.

I heard this earlier on the news, it's so sad :( his poor wife and kid. Haven't read through the rest of the thread but I was told that it doesnt often happen and that he's like the first person to die from it? I may be wrong, don't quote me on it, just what I've been told.
Second or third to die from it, depending which sources you're reading.

Second or third to die from it, depending which sources you're reading.

Second in Australia.

fact all we know is form the news do we not and they all dont say the samething do they

Second in Australia.

i heared he was the third

It's topics like this that depress me. No, can't have a good, simple "R.I.P., he was my hero when I was a kid, my prayers are with his family" topic. Nope, gotta have a damn debate over the authenticity of his lifestyle, his intelligence, and so on, fed mostly by ignorant trolls who wouldn't acknowledge facts or logic if they had a school district shoved up their tailpipes.

I'm sickened.

A stingray, that's ironic. Always figured it'd be a snake.

Nope, gotta have a damn debate over the authenticity of his lifestyle, his intelligence, and so on, fed mostly by ignorant trolls who wouldn't acknowledge facts or logic if they had a school district shoved up their tailpipes.

A theory we should test. :)

damn i grew up loving his show, i still cant believe it was a sting ray that did him in.

and also i wish the best of luck to his wife and kids.

rest in peace Steve Irwin.

About 20 minutes ago Steve Erwin died. He was killed in a freak accident in Cairns, he was killed by a sting-ray barb that went through his chest. He was swimming off the Low Isles (Batt reef) at Port Douglas filming an underwater documentary when it happened. Steve Erwin was one of Australia's leading enviromental activists and creater of Australia Zoo.

http://www.bcec.com.au/www/images/qld_croc_hunter.jpg

It's a sad day for Australia and for everyone who liked his show. Condolences to his family.

Second or third to die from it, depending which sources you're reading.

Yeah I've just read up a bit more about it. I've also read a few more pages of this thread and I find it hard to believe that people have posted some of the stuff they have on here. This post wasn't made to diss the guy, he's just lost his life. I think people can only possibly be in a position to disrespect and slate Steve Irwin if they have got off their asses and done an equal or even more impressive job of conservation work and all round entertainment. Some people are spiteful and I hate it!

It's topics like this that depress me. No, can't have a good, simple "R.I.P., he was my hero when I was a kid, my prayers are with his family" topic. Nope, gotta have a damn debate over the authenticity of his lifestyle, his intelligence, and so on, fed mostly by ignorant trolls who wouldn't acknowledge facts or logic if they had a school district shoved up their tailpipes.

I'm sickened.

You have to admit that he's been an inordinate risk taker. And we all knew something like this would happen some day.

Yeah I've just read up a bit more about it. I've also read a few more pages of this thread and I find it hard to believe that people have posted some of the stuff they have on here. This post wasn't made to diss the guy, he's just lost his life. I think people can only possibly be in a position to disrespect and slate Steve Irwin if they have got off their asses and done an equal or even more impressive job of conservation work and all round entertainment. Some people are spiteful and I hate it!

Nah, they're not spiteful. They're just dickfaces.

Nah, they're not spiteful. They're just dickfaces.

I was trying to refrain but yeah I can go with that!

Extremely rare to die from a stingray...that would have to suck big time.
By the way, hey, P!

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I heard that he got barbed in the heart. Not much you can do about that, is there?

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I heard that he got barbed in the heart. Not much you can do about that, is there?

Nope, because the massive amount of forced mixed with the highly concentrated toxins kills you instantly.

At least it was most likely painless...

I always thought it would be a reptile. He died like he lived. stupidly. but we loved him for it and he had a damn good laugh.

Steve Irwin... Just like the Grizzly Man...Died doing what he loved

He was my sister's hero... I will miss...

*Executes crisp salute* Good bye Steve Irwin...Rest in Peace.

Man this just frikkin sucks, end of story.

hmmmmmm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/SteveIrwin.jpg

Damn...I guess we always thought he'd just die of old age, since he always put himself in these crazy situations with dangerous animals and always made it. Is it ironic that he was ultimately killed by a creature that is not generally known for causing fatalities?

That sucks for his wife and kids. Well, she knew what she was getting into when she married him, but...I have a feeling his kids are going to grow up hating wildlife. "Fuck wildlife! Wildlife killed my dad!" Maybe they will wear stingray-skin shoes.

its sad to see him gone. but atleast he died doing what he loved. hope thats the way i go (somehow i dont see an xbox game killing me).

Apparently, he died instantly. A razor-sharp blade delivering strong toxins to your heart'll do that to you.

that poison isn't that bad if you're healthy like he was. otoh, getting stabbed in the heart can ruin you're whole day.

I'm gonna miss him. he cared about animals.

Yeah, at least he died doing what he loved, albeit he was a little young. :( I did always think a croc would do him in, though.

Anywho, rest in peace Steve. You'll be missed.

Oh well.

I never thought a stingray would get him.


I've never really trusted the brakes on those things. too weak for the horsepower. ;)

Damn...I guess we always thought he'd just die of old age
yes, we all thought he was invincible. emphasis on was, alas. in some ways not surprising, because one is likely more alert around the big animals, and stringrays may just lash out.

how many other people get to wear shorts for a living that are not postal workers?

Its rather ironic...hes been bitten by how many deadly snakes, exactly? Not counting the thosand or so non-poisoned bites that easily get infected :P
Heh, I remember watching a Croc Hunter where a snake bit him on the nipple. It was great.

Still though, I grew up watching the guy, until Animal Planet took off the serious version and only played the dumbed down kiddie version. Bastards seem determined to run their network into the ground.

I bet there are several crocs that are pretty pissed at the fact they have lost now the chance to have a go at him.

In any case, it's sad, for good or for bad, he was a naturalist, and someone who put effort towards the conservation of the Wildlife. I bet his family won't hate nature from now on, hating what your father did during his lifetime usually do not happen. I don't see many sons of war heroes hating their countries because their fathers died "for it".

It is too bad.


But I have to say this-getting crushed by an ice sculpture skidding down the road while you're picking up your dry cleaning, that's a freak accident.

Swimming really close to a stingray and getting stung is relatively expected.

Just struck me with the way it kept saying 'freak accident.'

but the fact that the sting just happened to go through his chest and stab him in the heart, like, what are the odds on that?

but the fact that the sting just happened to go through his chest and stab him in the heart, like, what are the odds on that?

So...was it possible that the stingray was paid off by the Australian Government or some group of individuals who wanted Steve dead?
Perhaps he made the wrong enemies with the Australian Kangaroo Mafia.

;)

No, he fed a crocodile with one hand, whist holding the kid in the other. That's not presenting his kid like bait. He claimed it was a safe situation, and considering the guy knew a fair bit about crocodiles, I'm not going to dispute that.


:( I used to watch his show religiously. RIP Steve *wipes away tear*

Hand feeding a crocodile is NEVER a "safe" thing to do no matter what your level of experience. They can outrun humans on land for a start over a short distance.

It's sad the way he went. Personally I'm surprised he manage to stay alive while filming the Black Mamba show considering he'd had NO experience with them before the filming. They're NOTHING like the snake's he'd played with previously. Luckily he managed to survive that, unluckily he didn't this time.

It's not a shock that he died at the hands of a venomous animal to me, if you spend time with them then it's always a possibility. I read that he was swimming over the top of the stingray when he was stung so maybe it considered a larger creature close to it a threat and lashed out. Who knows, I wasn't there.

He did a lot of good with the education and conservation side of things but he was often wreckless IMO when it comes to the grabbing of wild animals for the shows.

R.I.P fella:(

Well, he's renounced his citizenship, so he's technically not our responsibility anymore. :p



Oooh oooh, I've got it. Prisoner and Neighbours.

no dude. those 2 go along with Murdoch as part of the evil that came out of Australia.

BUT -- those 3 together aren't as bad as our Dubya, and personally, I've had some great surfing in Australia so I'm inclined to cut you a lot of slack for that. oh yeah, and Kylie's pretty hot (but I wish she wouldn't sing such awful crap). add to all that Steve Irwin, and you're alright in my books.

but you should've drowned Murdoch at birth.

... I have worked and lived on ... studs.


my girlfriend says she's living on a stud too. what's that got to do with knowing about crocs? ;)

no dude. those 2 go along with Murdoch as part of the evil that came out of Australia.

BUT -- those 3 together aren't as bad as our Dubya, and personally, I've had some great surfing in Australia so I'm inclined to cut you a lot of slack for that. oh yeah, and Kylie's pretty hot (but I wish she wouldn't sing such awful crap). add to all that Steve Irwin, and you're alright in my books.

but you should've drowned Murdoch at birth.

Oh well. Just take comfort in knowing that he owns the vast majority of our media, too.

(and the Prisoner/Neighbours thing was a joke. i'm illustrating how shitty our culture is. :p)

That guy was awesome and crazy though. He will be missed.

It's topics like this that depress me. No, can't have a good, simple "R.I.P., he was my hero when I was a kid, my prayers are with his family" topic. ...
I'm sickened.

actually Ruschi, quite a few have done just that. it's just too bad you have to wade through so much crap to find them.

one I liked by someone I know:

RIP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11636183&postcount=99)

big thanks PT. you have the words for me and I know you mean them.

my girlfriend says she's living on a stud too. what's that got to do with knowing about crocs? ;)

Crikey! I've heard of being joined at the hip .... but...this is possibly tooooo pr0nographic...!

I will now wash my brain out!

That guy was awesome and crazy though. He will be missed.

He was a good guy. We could do with more people like him.

I always thought it would be a reptile. He died like he lived. stupidly. but we loved him for it and he had a damn good laugh.

that's just it though. people keep saying that, but think about it. he really did know what he was doing with dangerous animals, and especially with things like crocs and snakes. he was never likely to be killed by them because he knew them so well and could control the dangers. once a human goes in deeper water he's out of his element and anything can happen. a lot of safety depends on mobility and you give that away when you leave land. I think when we find out what actually happened it'll turn out to be something completely unpredictable.

Oh well. Just take comfort in knowing that he owns the vast majority of our media, too.

(and the Prisoner/Neighbours thing was a joke. i'm illustrating how shitty our culture is. :p)

Prisoner Cell Block H

that's just it though. people keep saying that, but think about it. he really did know what he was doing with dangerous animals, and especially with things like crocs and snakes. he was never likely to be killed by them because he knew them so well and could control the dangers. once a human goes in deeper water he's out of his element and anything can happen. a lot of safety depends on mobility and you give that away when you leave land. I think when we find out what actually happened it'll turn out to be something completely unpredictable.

Plenty of people who "knew" what they were doing with venomous snakes and lizards have been bitten. Experts and such. You are never able to control everything. People get confident and careless, reaction times slowed when tired etc. A rattlesnake strikes at 150mph - you try avoiding that one!. True about the water thing.

Steve Iriwn... You shall be missed. :(

STEVE IRWIN
RIP
No animals were harmed in the making of this life
and more importantly...
Alot of animals were saved in the course of his life
He was a TV personality first and foremost. wrong! he was an animal conservationist FIRST and FOREMOST. He worked at the Autraillian Zoo long before anyone outside of Austrailla heard of Steve Irwin.

The poster you are responding to is correct ... Irwin disturbed the animals in the wild. You don't need to to that. Observe yes...interfere....no.hehehehehe... he taught alot about the animals in the wild. disturbed them? only some of them. he knew when to back off and watch from a distance.

While it is sad that He died, and my heart does go out to Terri and the rest of the Irwin clan...

it would be fitting that he died not at the han..er.. fang of a reptile. he knew them too well.

RIP Steve, you will be missed. what a freak accident too. Like one in a million chances.

I liked Steve. Loved his show and admired his enthu. RIP Steve. :(

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20355112-601,00.html

Mr Cropp said the stingray was spooked and went into defensive mood.

"It probably felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead, and it felt there was danger and it baulked.

"It stopped and went into a defensive mode and swung its tail with the spike.

"Steve unfortunately was in a bad position and copped it.

"I have had that happen to me, and I can visualise it - when a ray goes into defensive, you get out of the way.

"Steve was so close he could not get away, so if you can imagine it - being right beside the ray and it swinging its spine upwards from underneath Steve - and it hit him.

RIP Steve, you will be missed. what a freak accident too. Like one in a million chances.

Plenty of people who "knew" what they were doing with venomous snakes and lizards have been bitten. Experts and such. You are never able to control everything. People get confident and careless, reaction times slowed when tired etc. A rattlesnake strikes at 150mph - you try avoiding that one!. True about the water thing.
he has, and i've seen others do it as well.

and a Rattlesnake will indicate with his body when he will stricke, thus making it easier (not easy) to avoid.

that's to say he hasn't been bitten. but his experience with reptiles would also include knowing what to do when bitten.

It's topics like this that depress me. No, can't have a good, simple "R.I.P., he was my hero when I was a kid, my prayers are with his family" topic. Nope, gotta have a damn debate over the authenticity of his lifestyle, his intelligence, and so on, fed mostly by ignorant trolls who wouldn't acknowledge facts or logic if they had a school district shoved up their tailpipes.

I'm sickened.



Why are you surprised? Most of those trolling this thread are teenagers who think it's funny when something terrible happens to someone who isn't themselves, and those who aren't teens have shown time and again that they have the mentality of teenagers. They're why shows like Jackass exist. They're it's main demographic.

Crikey!

Sad to hear that Steve Irwin died - at least he died doing what he did second to none.

Rest in peace, mate!

he has, and i've seen others do it as well.

and a Rattlesnake will indicate with his body when he will stricke, thus making it easier (not easy) to avoid.

that's to say he hasn't been bitten. but his experience with reptiles would also include knowing what to do when bitten.


I know he has, but so have others. Mark o'shea for instance is one of the world's foremost herpetologists and he nearly died at the hands of a canebrake rattler (which he dealt with on numerous occasions).

Knowing what to do when bitten can't always save you as some have found at the expense of their lives.

No-one is completely invunerable. Animals can often be unpredictable, like people. Dealing with stuff like that takes a LOT of risk (and brass balls IMO)

I know he has, but so have others. Mark o'shea for instance is one of the world's foremost herpetologists and he nearly died at the hands of a canebrake rattler (which he dealt with on numerous occasions).

Knowing what to do when bitten can't always save you as some have found at the expense of their lives.I think you'll find that most of those deaths are a result of...
1) the so called "expert" wasn't
2) the so called "expert" didn't have the antivenom on hand. (it's back at the camp.)
3) the so called "expert" felt there wasn't enough venom injected to be a threat (stupidity)

Many "experts" also survive snakebites because they DO KNOW WHAT TO DO.

No-one is completely invunerable. Animals can often be unpredictable, like people. Dealing with stuff like that takes a LOT of risk (and brass balls IMO)yep.

I know he has, but so have others. Mark o'shea for instance is one of the world's foremost herpetologists and he nearly died at the hands of a canebrake rattler (which he dealt with on numerous occasions).

Knowing what to do when bitten can't always save you as some have found at the expense of their lives.

No-one is completely invunerable. Animals can often be unpredictable, like people. Dealing with stuff like that takes a LOT of risk (and brass balls IMO)

Although by this point Steve was probobly immune to most forms of poison, considering the number of times he was bitten/stung by various poisonous animals, and considering the number of rather nasty animal bites/scratches/maulings he got, that guy must have had an immune system that could eat AIDS for breakfast.
One unlucky stingray strike at the wrong place (what are the odds that it would go through his ribs and miss all the assorted diving gear?) though, and all the assorted poison immunity on the planet wont save you.

Terrible news....in the area one would have expected a shark attack....not a Sting Ray.

RIP

Darwin Awards sounds good.

Freak accidents don't qualify. Sorry.

Harmonia Mortus Redux;11637602']Although by this point Steve was probobly immune to most forms of poison, considering the number of times he was bitten/stung by various poisonous animals, and considering the number of rather nasty animal bites/scratches/maulings he got, that guy must have had an immune system that could eat AIDS for breakfast.
One unlucky stingray strike at the wrong place (what are the odds that it would go through his ribs and miss all the assorted diving gear?) though, and all the assorted poison immunity on the planet wont save you.

Apparantly conditions werent right for diving versus what are ordinarily the more dangerous critters so he was snorkelling to work on getting some footage for a kid's animal show he does with his daughter. He got over the bull ray which found itself cornered. It lashed up and got him. Considering all he has said and shown in the past I doubt he held this against the ray in his last moments.

Me and my sister grew up watching Steve do the things he did like saving snakes in Indonesia, diving with the world biggest sharks and raising awareness about endangered species.

Strange that he was killed by something that was supposed to be harmless, he will be misses.

The poster you are responding to is correct ... Irwin disturbed the animals in the wild. You don't need to to that. Observe yes...interfere....no.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

First, there's the really obvious bit. It is very difficult to tag an animal without touching it. It is similarly difficult to inspect an animal for health problems and so forth without going near it. Conservation workers regularly get up close and personal with animals; it's an established and essential part of the job. From what little I saw of his show, the only things Steve Irwin really did differently than an awful lot of people were (a) having TV cameras present, (b) dealing with a lot of different animals rather than specializing in one or two, and (c) saying "Crikey!" a lot. I'm pretty sure none of those things are inherently dangerous.

Secondly, perhaps more important to any conservation effort than tags and check-ups is general education. The vast majority of conservationists I've met, worked with, or heard interviewed agree that one of the biggest barriers to their efforts is and has always been a populace that's ignorant and indifferent. Irwin worked to teach people about the animals he loved in an exciting, interesting, and, yes, rather silly way, and because of that, a great many people who otherwise wouldn't have known or cared a bit if half the animals on this planet went extinct tomorrow came to believe that maybe these things mattered a little bit after all. I don't know about you, but I consider that a job worth doing.

I think you'll find that most of those deaths are a result of...
1) the so called "expert" wasn't
2) the so called "expert" didn't have the antivenom on hand. (it's back at the camp.)
3) the so called "expert" felt there wasn't enough venom injected to be a threat (stupidity)

Many "experts" also survive snakebites because they DO KNOW WHAT TO DO.

Yes BUT the point I'm trying to make though is that it is possible now matter what your experience or level of expertise, death is still a possibility when dealing with venomous creatures no matter what precautions you take.

Inland Taipan (most potent land snake) has stopped a heart in around 30 seconds for example. Depends on many factors which you are not always able to control - as shown in this case, if Steve was stung on a limb he woulda probably survived it's unfortunate for the attack to have struck where it did.

at least he died doing what he loved.....


*raises beer*

to steve irwin!

Yes BUT the point I'm trying to make though is that it is possible now matter what your experience or level of expertise, death is still a possibility when dealing with venomous creatures no matter what precautions you take.

Inland Taipan (most potent land snake) has stopped a heart in around 30 seconds for example. Depends on many factors which you are not always able to control. As shown in this case, if Steve was stung on a limb he woulda probably survived it's unfortunate for the attack to have struck where it did.
and I'm not saying it isn't a possiblitiy, just doesn't happen as often as one thinks.

now, my point is that with his expertise, being killed by a reptile would be ironic, yes. but IMHO, not fitting for him. Fitting death is him dying while saving an animal. :(

Seeing some of his diving episodes, he tends to freedive with his usual uniform... half open shirt, goggles, and snorkle (sometimes.) so when getting close to a ray, I can picture him not having any form of protection (even a thin layer of rubber might have given him enough protection to afford him some time to get help.)

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

First, there's the really obvious bit. It is very difficult to tag an animal without touching it. It is similarly difficult to inspect an animal for health problems and so forth without going near it. Conservation workers regularly get up close and personal with animals; it's an established and essential part of the job. From what little I saw of his show, the only things Steve Irwin really did differently than an awful lot of people were (a) having TV cameras present, (b) dealing with a lot of different animals rather than specializing in one or two, and (c) saying "Crikey!" a lot. I'm pretty sure none of those things are inherently dangerous.

Secondly, perhaps more important to any conservation effort than tags and check-ups is general education. The vast majority of conservationists I've met, worked with, or heard interviewed agree that one of the biggest barriers to their efforts is and has always been a populace that's ignorant and indifferent. Irwin worked to teach people about the animals he loved in an exciting, interesting, and, yes, rather silly way, and because of that, a great many people who otherwise wouldn't have known or cared a bit if half the animals on this planet went extinct tomorrow came to believe that maybe these things mattered a little bit after all. I don't know about you, but I consider that a job worth doing.


And how many times did you see him tag an animal...an animal happily doing what ever it was doing when suddenly pickup by some chubby Ozzie geezer....waven in front of the camera while said Ozzie gobs off a load of verbage that justifies his (gobby Ozzie) existance in front of the camera rather than anything remotely to do with education beyond the obvious (it has fangs and bites so be carefull - that...that is a no brainer...and if one is confused by that...well the Darwin awards are there for a purpose). Said animal is then released...with no tagging...and no record of what species, lenght, wieght etc...you know...the stuff REAL conservationists do.

General education....I watched a bunch of his shows and to be honest...I learn more from one episode of any David Attenbrough series than from an entire series of the Gobby Aussie.

Crikey!

(yes its tragic that the guy is dead...I'm not that heartless to celebrate this serial animal molestors death....but....the guy was an accident waiting to happen)

A wetsuit might have helped, but probably not. I was wearing one when I got stung a few years ago by a bull ray - the spine went through my wet suit, THROUGH my lower leg and out the other side of my suit. Thankfully, it broke off rather than being ripped back through.

Steve was a great Australian. He may have been criticized for having his son with him in the pit one time (and no, he did NOT dangle the kid out - he was holding him against his body the entire time), but everybody I know here is in mourning. Even PM Howard was close to tears as he made the official announcement.

http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/7474/3909ac223dhu7.gif

'nuff said.

This is terrible news. I always liked him, and he will be missed.

And how many times did you see him tag an animal...an animal happily doing what ever it was doing when suddenly pickup by some chubby Ozzie geezer....


So unless you actually see footage of the animal being tagged, you're going to continue arguing this way.

Darlin', there's such a thing as VIDEO EDITING. Far as I know, the animals Irwin wrestled with were due for tagging or moving anyway; he just wrestles with those who needed tagging or moving at that time. And hey, every one of Irwin's episodes can only run so long, you know. Of course he would have to edit out a huge amount of the stuff actually caught on film; including, I would believe, the relatively mundane, non-attention grabbing actions of tagging. It's all about keeping the audience's attention long enough, and showmanship it may be, but would anyone even be paying attention to the serious messages he brings across if it's too dry to sustain much interest?

You ain't in the business, so to speak. So don't talk like you are, and certainly don't diss a good man at his obituary. It's like having someone pee on your grave when you yourself passes on someday. You wanna slag, save it for later at least, alright?


RIP, Steve Irwin. You were a good man, despite what they say. May you continue to live on through the good work you have done. For good men never die; they remain immortal through the mark they have left on the world, and the mark they have left in the hearts of the people who loves him. So shall it be, with you.

And how many times did you see him tag an animal...an animal happily doing what ever it was doing when suddenly pickup by some chubby Ozzie geezer....waven in front of the camera while said Ozzie gobs off a load of verbage that justifies his (gobby Ozzie) existance in front of the camera rather than anything remotely to do with education beyond the obvious (it has fangs and bites so be carefull - that...that is a no brainer...and if one is confused by that...well the Darwin awards are there for a purpose). Said animal is then released...with no tagging...and no record of what species, lenght, wieght etc...you know...the stuff REAL conservationists do.

General education....I watched a bunch of his shows and to be honest...I learn more from one episode of any David Attenbrough series than from an entire series of the Gobby Aussie.

Crikey!

(yes its tragic that the guy is dead...I'm not that heartless to celebrate this serial animal molestors death....but....the guy was an accident waiting to happen)then you didn't watch his shows.

there were shows where he's been seen tagging animals for study. they were rare, but they were there.

Crazy

poor bugger. I was close to tears when I heard this. I mean, danger comes with the line of work, but for some reason I always thought of him as the jovial Australian who would never get killed. He will be missed.

at least he died doing what he loved.....


*raises beer*

to steve irwin!

::raises his own::

to Steve Irwin!

Extremely rare to die from a stingray...that would have to suck big time.
By the way, hey, P!

Hello my dear :) x

And how many times did you see him tag an animal...an animal happily doing what ever it was doing when suddenly pickup by some chubby Ozzie geezer....waven in front of the camera while said Ozzie gobs off a load of verbage that justifies his (gobby Ozzie) existance in front of the camera rather than anything remotely to do with education beyond the obvious (it has fangs and bites so be carefull - that...that is a no brainer...and if one is confused by that...well the Darwin awards are there for a purpose). Said animal is then released...with no tagging...and no record of what species, lenght, wieght etc...you know...the stuff REAL conservationists do.

General education....I watched a bunch of his shows and to be honest...I learn more from one episode of any David Attenbrough series than from an entire series of the Gobby Aussie.

Crikey!

(yes its tragic that the guy is dead...I'm not that heartless to celebrate this serial animal molestors death....but....the guy was an accident waiting to happen)

Wanker

A wetsuit might have helped, but probably not. I was wearing one when I got stung a few years ago by a bull ray - the spine went through my wet suit, THROUGH my lower leg and out the other side of my suit. Thankfully, it broke off rather than being ripped back through.

Yeah, I don't think neoprene counts as any sort of body armor.

Wanker
No, no, no.
Ignorant wanker.

Rather a shame...

Animal Planet is running a biography on Irwin now (in the US, anyway), not a tribute (since Irwin narrates a lot of it thus far).

A damn shame. :(

Alright guys, come on, you have to admit this is big news if you don't think it is. I mean remember when we were all kids and teenagers and we used to watch that guy do the most absurd things with dangerous animals?

I just keep thinking, who is going to be the new croc hunter? We need a croc hunter!

So unless you actually see footage of the animal being tagged, you're going to continue arguing this way.

Darlin', there's such a thing as VIDEO EDITING. Far as I know, the animals Irwin wrestled with were due for tagging or moving anyway; he just wrestles with those who needed tagging or moving at that time. And hey, every one of Irwin's episodes can only run so long, you know. Of course he would have to edit out a huge amount of the stuff actually caught on film; including, I would believe, the relatively mundane, non-attention grabbing actions of tagging. It's all about keeping the audience's attention long enough, and showmanship it may be, but would anyone even be paying attention to the serious messages he brings across if it's too dry to sustain much interest?

You ain't in the business, so to speak. So don't talk like you are, and certainly don't diss a good man at his obituary. It's like having someone pee on your grave when you yourself passes on someday. You wanna slag, save it for later at least, alright?


RIP, Steve Irwin. You were a good man, despite what they say. May you continue to live on through the good work you have done. For good men never die; they remain immortal through the mark they have left on the world, and the mark they have left in the hearts of the people who loves him. So shall it be, with you.

Do you think you can be a bit more condenscending and pretentious please?

Wanker

You and the pantless one...typical...

I suspect that when Bush dies you'll be dancing a fucking jig.

You and the pantless one...typical...

I suspect that when Bush dies you'll be dancing a fucking jig.

I know I will, because unlike Mr. Irwin, G.W. is not a good person.

You and the pantless one...typical...

I suspect that when Bush dies you'll be dancing a fucking jig.

Well Pantless is correct.

Ignornat Wanker.

Do you think you can be a bit more condenscending and pretentious please?

More than you? Doubtful.

Well Pantless is correct.

Ignornat Wanker.

The irony.

More than you? Doubtful.

:rolleyes:

You and the pantless one...typical...

I suspect that when Bush dies you'll be dancing a fucking jig.

Well, I can say for sure Steve Irwin's done much more good than Bush.

Steve Irwin... Just like the Grizzly Man...Died doing what he loved

He was my sister's hero... I will miss...

*Executes crisp salute* Good bye Steve Irwin...Rest in Peace.

Who is or was ''The Grizzly Man''?

Don't get me wrong...Bush is no hero of mine.

But he is to many others.

Once more...the irony is...palatable.

Who is or was ''The Grizzly Man''?

He was a fellow that lived near and studied them.

He was killed by a new one he didn't know that well.....

Don't get me wrong...Bush is no hero of mine.

But he is to many others.

Once more...the irony is...palatable.

No the irony would have been him getting killed by a croc. Especially after he mentioned "I hope I don't die from one because there will be many people screaming 'I knew it. I knew a croc would get him someday!' "

Who is or was ''The Grizzly Man''?

Grizzly Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly_Man)
he documented Grizzly Bears. He believed that he could earn their trust. after his last visit, he and his girlfriend were killed by Grizzly bears.

It's felt by some that all he accomplished was to remove the Fear of Man from these bears, making them even more dangerous to Humans.

No the irony would have been him getting killed by a croc. Especially after he mentioned "I hope I don't die from one because there will be many people screaming 'I knew it. I knew a croc would get him someday!' "

true true...well either a croc or a snake...

personally I was rooting for the penguins...

He was a fellow that lived near and studied them.

He was killed by a new one he didn't know that well.....

I thought he was killed by the ones he was filming. the ones he thought he'd earned their trust.


oh well, I didn't see the film so I really don't know.

Who is or was ''The Grizzly Man''?

"Grizzley Man" aka Tim Treadwell, who's origonal name I forgot, Tim something, was this guy who went and lived on the Kodiak islands with the grizzleys there for like 9 summers in a row. Tim had no read environmental or animal training experience. He lived with and documented the lives of the grizzley bears there. He became very emotionally attached to the animals he documented, and from what I saw, seemed a bit unbalanced, although that might just have been the effects of living alone in the Alaskan wilderness for extneded periods of time. He was also heavily cridical of the Park Service and society in general for endagering "his bears." I believe the famous line is "Fuck the motherfucking Park Service!"

Anyway, one year he was up there with his girlfriends. They stayed longer then they had any other year. The bears they had been documenting for years had gone into their winter slumber, and bears from the interior of the island, less familiar with humans, had come down ton the lowlands. As winter was comming, food was more scarce. One day, a bear ripped into Timmey's tent, and killed both him and his girlfriend.

A group of his friends compiled his footage, which is shown in the documentry Grizzly Man, which is more about Timmey himself then their bears he documented.

Someone completely different then Steve Irwin.

I thought he was killed by the ones he was filming. the ones he thought he'd earned their trust.


oh well, I didn't see the film so I really don't know.

No, he was killed by a bear he was unfamiliar with. As mentioned above, the bears he had been filming for about 9 years were in hibernation, and a group of bears from the interior of the island had taken their place.

I think he was killed like 2 days before he planned to leave, or something like that.

The first thing I thought when I read of Steve Irwin's death on CNN this morning was "Why am I not suprised?" For some reason, this is the most non-suprised I have ever been about the death of anyone. The headline could have been "Steve Irwin Killed By [insert any animal on the planet here]" and it would have not been suprising.

If the news media wanted to make his death appear shocking, they would have used the headline "Steve Irwin Dies Of Heart Attack"

Its too bad for Irwin. They are doing alot of documentaries on him on Animal Planet. Its sad. He says in an interview back in 2000 that his dream is to see his kids take over his role. :(

Grizzley Man loved the bears and was the exzct same thing, only way less popular. I feel bad for both of them and their families.

*Executes a sharp salute once more*

Rest in Peace Mr. Irwin.

The first thing I thought when I read of Steve Irwin's death on CNN this morning was "Why am I not suprised?" For some reason, this is the most non-suprised I have ever been about the death of anyone. The headline could have been "Steve Irwin Killed By [insert any animal on the planet here]" and it would have not been suprising.

If the news media wanted to make his death appear shocking, they would have used the headline "Steve Irwin Dies Of Heart Attack"

the most ironic death he could ever have had is if he was wrestling a crocodile and got struck by lightning.