NationStates Jolt Archive

To some Indians, chicken is more acceptable. I even had a friend who said she is vegetarian but eats chicken and still argues that she is vegetarian. :p

Amongst Bengalis, it is very common to see vegetarian Bengalis (like the Bengali brahmin community) eat fish regularly. And they too insist that they are veggies.

interesting.

I know people who claim to be vegetarian but also admit to eating chicken and fish from time to time.

I do wonder how one can claim the title while eating animal flesh though.

Interestingly, among educated Americans (supposedly), they're usually surprised to see someone from India eat meat. There are so many variations. Some have dietary restrictions based on the calendar (or so they tell me).

IIRC, there was a survey that found that about 40% Indians do eat meat with varying regularity. So it should not be that big of a surprise to see a non-veg Indian. It is also interesting how Indians use the term "non-vegetarian" for meat-eaters....indicating that vegetarian is the normal way and meat-eating is an anamoly...sort of...

Yeah, some have holy months and some have fasting days when they don't eat particular stuff. Some don't eat anything on a particular day of the week. There is a particular Tamil Christian tradition of not eating meat during the month of mid March to Mid April (Tamils have their own calendar and months). So there was this Tamil Christian colleague of mine who would always get questions about why he is not eating meat suddenly. :p

When I meet someone from India, and they say, "I'm from India" I usually say, "which state?" and they look surprised, and I say, "it's a big place".

Most Indians don't think you (or any non-Indian American) would know anything about India. That's why the surprise.

interesting.

I do wonder how one can claim the title while eating animal flesh though.

Yeah, I had a hard time convincing her that she is not a vegetarian and even if she feels she is, she should not be saying so to others. For her meat = beef. So she felt chicken is ok.

I know people who claim to be vegetarian but also admit to eating chicken and fish from time to time.

Many Indian vegetarians would fall into that category. Even many non-veggie folks don't eat meat like westerners (I should say Americans, cuz they are the only westerners I am familiar with).

Typically people have meat two or three times a week (mostly a sunday morning Chicken curry and maybe a eat-out once or twice during the week) and that would be all. That's how it was in my family and many families I know of.

I was surprised that people here eat meat all meals of the day, all days of the week.

What you eat is like who you fuck, none of my business.

Unless I'm cooking for you or fucking you.

I realy don't care. The only thing that annoys me are some of my friends who claim to be vegetarians but make an exeption for fish.

Most Indians don't think you (or any non-Indian American) would know anything about India. That's why the surprise.

There's a guy in the office who graduated with a masters in computer science from Stanford, and he didn't know where India was on a map. Not kidding.

Oh, they cared.

(Kudos for spelling "no one" correctly.)
The vegetarian thing was a way bigger deal, though. Because she was telling people what they were doing was wrong, and Albertans are too libertarian to tolerate that sort of thing.

And she was attacking industry, and Albertans love industry.

There's a great article about Alberta in today's Wall Street Journal.

When I meet someone from India, and they say, "I'm from India" I usually say, "which state?" and they look surprised, and I say, "it's a big place".
It's an important question. If nothing else, it tells you how spicy they like their food.

I find tofu disgusting. Furthermore on thanksgiving it is unamerican to eat a tofurkey (if you personally have no moral reasons to do otherwise) My point here is that i don't like it when vegetarians try and make me eat tofu b/c they think meat is "wrong" i wouldn't try and make a vegetarian eat meat.

Yes. Completely unAmerican to eat something the pilgrims didn't eat. It's completely unAmerican to see a Native American and not do your damndest to make sure he has a deadly disease before he leaves your sight, as well.

Interestingly, I've also had the same experience with vegatarians. I find the ones from India never, ever bring up that subject ("eating meat is bad for you, didn't you know that?"). And their food tastes good - it isn't some lame attempt to make a veggieburger or cast 20 pounds of gluten into the shape of a turkey for Thanskgiving dinner.

Just to be completely fair, I did go into a vegitarian Indian restaurant today that had flyers in the doorway about how eeeevvviiiiiil it is to eat meat. I probably wouldn't even have noticed if it weren't for this thread, but I did. I just kind of laughed at it and then had a very yummy veggie lunch.

Just to be completely fair, I did go into a vegitarian Indian restaurant today that had flyers in the doorway about how eeeevvviiiiiil it is to eat meat. I probably wouldn't even have noticed if it weren't for this thread, but I did. I just kind of laughed at it and then had a very yummy veggie lunch.
I wouldn't have eaten there.

There's a grocery store near me that proudly proclaims all its produce to be organic. I won't shop there, either.

Well perhaps its because you live in a liberal town but even in liberal towns I have experienced that and you are so wrong about vegetarians instigating it. look at the first two responses to the OP in this thread and read thru to find the many people who just attack vegetarianism without provocation.

Look for the number of asshole meateaters versus the number of asshole vegetarians in this thread.

It's lopsided for sure as has ALWAYS been my experience on this board and elsewhere.

The pure numbers are naturally going to be lopsided. After all, vegetarians are in the minority. Thus, there are a lot more people who eat meat than those who don't. Thus, there are a lot more potential asshole meateaters than potential asshole vegetarians.

I highly doubt that the proportion of such assholes is any higher in either group. An asshole is going to be an asshole - and it isn't linked to whether or not they eat meat.

I wouldn't have eaten there.

There's a grocery store near me that proudly proclaims all its produce to be organic. I won't shop there, either.

Organic does not = vegetarian. I prefer organic meat to nonorganic.

Organic does not = vegetarian. I prefer organic meat to nonorganic.
I didn't say it did.

My point was that I'll boycott establishments if they promote activities with which I disagree. Like the disuse of pesticides.

Incidentally, I prefer my beef be genetically modified.

The pure numbers are naturally going to be lopsided. After all, vegetarians are in the minority. Thus, there are a lot more people who eat meat than those who don't. Thus, there are a lot more potential asshole meateaters than potential asshole vegetarians.

I highly doubt that the proportion of such assholes is any higher in either group. An asshole is going to be an asshole - and it isn't linked to whether or not they eat meat.


I can agree with that.

It's fanatics who makes us moderates look like assholes.

I hate the taste of meet, but prefer fish.

People call me a vegetarian and ask why I don't like it when people eat meat and that I don't preach.

I never preach. I hate the militant vegetarians and vegans who preach.

They're like Islamist extremists, they give the normal ones a bad name.
Of course, if you eat fish, you're not a vegetarian.

Yes. Completely unAmerican to eat something the pilgrims didn't eat. It's completely unAmerican to see a Native American and not do your damndest to make sure he has a deadly disease before he leaves your sight, as well.

Okay i was joking about the unamerican thing there buddy. There is no need to get offended. What's up with the native american thing there? I'm sensing some serious anger against america. My main point was that i hate tofu.

Okay i was joking about the unamerican thing there buddy. There is no need to get offended. What's up with the native american thing there? I'm sensing some serious anger against america. My main point was that i hate tofu.I'm not certain how someone can hate tofu. Is it a texture thing? Because tofu doesn't have much of a taste; it takes on the taste of whatever spices you cook it in.

Unless they're only not eating meat because they don't like the taste, I think Vegetarians are morons. Humans are omnivores. There is no way to counter that fact. We don't eat rocks or dirt, we eat things we kill. We kill in a more humane way than most of the other animals on Earth.

In short: eat meat, your body is built for it.
I'm not quite a vegetarian but I only eat meat a couple of times a week. It's a proven fact that you can live in a very healthy way without eating meat.

Back in the prehistoric days meat wasn't always availible, and never in the quantities availible to us.

The dodgy practices of the meat industry is another good reason to be vegetarian.

It's projected guilt. They know their behaviour is immoral and that you are their better
As I say there are a lot of good reasons to be vegetarian, but to say that meat eating is immoral is nonsensical.

If the vegetarians wish to deny their own biology to make some kind of political statement
Why do people (and it always seems to be right-wing people) think that vegetarianism is political? It's not.

In fact you're trying to make meat eating into a damned political statement.

yeah, even me for once. It must be odd for some people. BTW, I have no way of knowing, but is it risky to not let a kid eat meat? As far as healthy development? I know it can be risky to eat meat anyway! But what about what vegetarianism takes out of a diet of a growing kid?
There's nothing good in meat that you can't get in vegetable form.

Now, getting children to eat vegetables is the challange. :D

I would like to ask a vegan where he lives, because if it is a house he displaced whatever animals lived their. That resulted in deaths, I guarentee it. Where have all the woods gone?
Trees aren't animals.

Doesnt that tell them somthing though? If you need to use supplements? It is taking a part of your natural diet out.
"Natural diets" are ancient history in the west. Unless you're hunting the meat you eat, I guarantee you that it has gone through some profoundly unnatural processes.

How much intelligence/skill does it take to sneak up on and catch a leaf?

Vegetarian is an old indian word for bad hunter.

Vegan is an old indian word for starving dumbass.
What? Surely this means that to the vegetarian/vegan, food is abundant?

What on Earth would cause a person to be a vegan? It sounds rather insane.
Health reasons.

People were meant to eat meat. To be a vegetarian is to attempt to deny one's own biology.
Why are you pushing this so hard? Are you working for the meat industry?

You've already admitted your ignorance about biology so please understand that meat is not essential.

We've got plenty of room but we've got a little saying too, "Not In My BackYard". Kinda sucks for the rest of the world though, but we're at the top of the mountain and we're not budging.
We will not forget this and we will have our vengeance. Your cities will be levelled. Your leaders will be executed, and your people enslaved.

And that's just China's plan. ;)

Indeed. So to deny that is to deny one's own biology. Better get the big nets ready to catch some cows. :D
Seriously, this is bullshit so stop saying this. All the vegetarians I know are healthy.

I find it a bit hypocritical that so many vegetarians are for abortion.
Random issues?

The dodgy practices of the meat industry is another good reason to be vegetarian.
Please don't tell me you believe the lies of Upton Sinclair.

I'm not a vegetarian. However, I think vegetarians are furking hawt.

I'm not a vegetarian. However, I think vegetarians are furking hawt.

I know a couple of vegetarians I'd eat, too.

Steak....

I'm sure you dont get any more shit than I do for not being Christian. I get plenty more shit for being vegetarian than I do for my lack of religion.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Atheists+%26+most+hated+minority&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

Get the cache for the first result. The actual page won't load any more (no clue why). Vegitarians may catch more shit, but they sure as hell aren't as hated as atheists.

I didn't say it did.

My point was that I'll boycott establishments if they promote activities with which I disagree. Like the disuse of pesticides.

Incidentally, I prefer my beef be genetically modified.

You like causing cancer and malformations in the families of feild workers then? You enjoy your bioaccumulated carcinogens?

:confused:

Incidentally, I prefer my beef be genetically modified.

YES! I want the basic genetic structure of my food to be changing as I eat it! mmm.... genetics..... tasty.

Please don't tell me you believe the lies of Upton Sinclair.Nearly everything he wrote in The Jungle about the meat industry is verifiably true; the stuff that hasn't been verified hasn't been shown to be false.

humans evolved as tool users we use tools asking someone to do something "by hand" does not prove or disprove their fitness to injest meat.

There are a lot of things we could not do without tools ... we would NEVER had made it as a speicies without our ability to use tools, does that mean we should not be living?

oh right so just cus we can use tools to do it means we're DESIGNED to do it does it? so we're designed to live in tower blocks, we're designed to live underwater, and we're designed to blow stuff up? i see