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Why does beautiful girls date ugly guys?

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Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 21:01
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
The Mindset
30-07-2006, 21:03
In my experience, you look for someone attractive, move on because they have no personality, then look for personality, and move on because you don't find them attractive. It's a cycle.

Apparently your personality didn't appeal to her, whereas this guy's does.
Dhakaan Goblins
30-07-2006, 21:08
Maybe he memorized the Kama Sutra.
Maybe he was rich.
Maybe he drugged her.
Maybe he was 'gifted' in other areas.
Baguetten
30-07-2006, 21:10
http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/
Nadkor
30-07-2006, 21:10
Because maybe their idea of "ugly" is different to yours.
Cabra West
30-07-2006, 21:15
Because maybe their idea of "ugly" is different to yours.

That, and he might be good in ... other aspects? And I'm not only referring to sex here.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 21:16
THERE'S HOPE FOR ME YET!!!!!:p
United Chicken Kleptos
30-07-2006, 21:16
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

A giant penis, money, or personality. The third has never been seen, but we put it there because we're hopeful people aren't selfish.
Amarenthe
30-07-2006, 21:17
http://www.edufind.com/english/grammar/

Beat me to it. The title of this thread actually made me wince.

Maybe he's funny? Sweet? Sensitive? Maybe he's confident in himself despite his looks? Maybe he's just genuinely a good person?

Or... my second theory is this. Maybe she lacks some sort of self-confidence, and being with someone who might be deemed physically unnattractive assures her that he'll never judge her for not being pretty enough for him?

Really, though, I think it's just that she does find him attractive somehow, even if you don't.
Not bad
30-07-2006, 21:17
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

You cured her of shallowness
Liberated New Ireland
30-07-2006, 21:17
THERE'S HOPE FOR ME YET!!!!!:p
No, there isn't.
Compuq
30-07-2006, 21:18
Girls are more attacted to personnality then looks..generally.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 21:19
Maybe, he's a nice guy with great humour and generally fun to be around.

.....or maybe she's very short-sighted? :)
Cabra West
30-07-2006, 21:20
Or maybe she's just on the rebound.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 21:20
No, there isn't.

Aww.......all my hopes and dreams have just been crushed :(
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 21:22
Beat me to it. The title of this thread actually made me wince.

Maybe he's funny? Sweet? Sensitive? Maybe he's confident in himself despite his looks? Maybe he's just genuinely a good person?

Or... my second theory is this. Maybe she lacks some sort of self-confidence, and being with someone who might be deemed physically unnattractive assures her that he'll never judge her for not being pretty enough for him?

Really, though, I think it's just that she does find him attractive somehow, even if you don't.

I used to know her well, including her type. She might have changed or lied to me about it at the first place. But otherwise and most likely, he isnt her type.
Nadkor
30-07-2006, 21:32
He's her type if she's attracted to him, it doesn't matter what you think her type is.
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 21:40
Before I pass judgement I want to see what all three look like:

a) the lady in question
b) the guy in question
c) the original poster

THEN we will comment.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 21:41
Why are you so bothered anyhow? Do you want her back????
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 21:42
Before I pass judgement I want to see what all three look like:

a) the lady in question
b) the guy in question
c) the original poster

THEN we will comment.

Now that's a good post ;)
Liberated New Ireland
30-07-2006, 21:42
Aww.......all my hopes and dreams have just been crushed :(
Sorry, but I have to be honest. Seriously, my parole demands it.
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 21:54
Why are you so bothered anyhow? Do you want her back????

I just think she could do a LOT better....
Meath Street
30-07-2006, 21:54
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
Maybe you're crap at rating men's looks!

I expect that it's his personality. It really is important you know.

Or maybe you are just horribly biased.
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 21:55
I just think she could do a LOT better....

Leave it to her?

Women make their own decisions, these days.
Meath Street
30-07-2006, 21:59
Girls are more attacted to personnality then looks..generally.
I wish people wouldn't generalise based on sex.

Some girls rate looks higher, others, personality higher.

Some guys rate looks higher, others like me, personality higher. I think that the majority of girls are physically attractive, so that's unimportant in the selection process.
Pure Metal
30-07-2006, 22:01
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
maybe they were really nice, interesting guys who the hot girls got on really well with and had a good time?

could be as simple as that. looks aren't necessarily 'shallow' (depends on what kind of importance you place on them) but while they are important, they aren't everything...
Not bad
30-07-2006, 22:08
I wish people wouldn't generalise based on sex.

Some girls rate looks higher, others, personality higher.

Some guys rate looks higher, others like me, personality higher. I think that the majority of girls are physically attractive, so that's unimportant in the selection process.


I wish people wouldnt call it the selection process. It makes it sound like a meat market. Oh wait, it is. OK it makes it sound clinical as well. So stop.
Shazbotdom
30-07-2006, 22:11
I would have to agree with Dorstfeld. Women can make their own decisions, it's not up to you to decide who your ex g/f goes out with. Capeshe?
New Stalinberg
30-07-2006, 22:14
First of all, I'm a guy, and generally when I see these totally orange/bronzed girls with a mountain of eyeliner, I just think, "Haha, no." Typically, their heads are full of air.
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 22:14
I would have to agree with Dorstfeld. Women can make their own decisions, it's not up to you to decide who your ex g/f goes out with. Capeshe?

I didnt tell her anything. I managed a fake smile when she introduced us. That's why I'm making a thread about it after asking my friends instead of asking her....
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 22:18
I would have to agree with Dorstfeld.

Cheers.

Women can make their own decisions, it's not up to you to decide who your ex g/f goes out with. Capeshe?

And a certain immature sort of guys, full of themselves, under the delusion of being God's gift and thus unable to deal with rejection have a big, big problem with understanding that. Doesn't change a thing, though.
Meath Street
30-07-2006, 22:20
I wish people wouldnt call it the selection process. It makes it sound like a meat market. Oh wait, it is. OK it makes it sound clinical as well. So stop.
Sorry, you're right. You never know when love will strike, and selection may have nothing to do with it.
Aryavartha
30-07-2006, 22:30
Why does beautiful girls date ugly guys?

Could it be because beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and there could be more to a person than just how he/she looks? :rolleyes:
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 22:33
Cheers.



And a certain immature sort of guys, full of themselves, under the delusion of being God's gift and thus unable to deal with rejection have a big, big problem with understanding that. Doesn't change a thing, though.

Are you hinting me?
The Don Quixote
30-07-2006, 22:34
I'm not really that interested in this topic. However, my Step-dad had brought this up at some other time. He claims that ugly guys can end up with beautiful women because they exhibit a lot of confidence. I also suspect that many guys are afraid of approaching beautiful women. So, when a guy with confidence (ugly or not) steps up, good results follow.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 22:34
I just think she could do a LOT better....

Are you basing this just on looks? Is the guy in question nice or a complete cock?
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 22:35
Are you hinting me?

Did that make you feel like being addressed?
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 22:40
Are you basing this just on looks? Is the guy in question nice or a complete cock?

On looks. I dont know him...
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 22:41
Did that make you feel like being addressed?

Shazbotdom was referring to me in his post and you were referring to the guys in his post.
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 22:43
On looks. I dont know him...

Methinks you're in denial about not having any feelings for her.

At the end of the day, if 2 people get on and are happy being together then that's all there is to it.
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 22:43
Shazbotdom was referring to me in his post and you were referring to the guys in his post.

I only think you're just plain jealous. He's got what you haven't got. The girl, and that mysterious extra. It bothers you, obviously.
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 22:47
Methinks you're in denial about not having any feelings for her.

At the end of the day, if 2 people get on and are happy being together then that's all there is to it.

of course I've got feelings for her. We dated and then she was my friend. I like her and I just think she can do a lot better. I was just trying to understand her without asking her....
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 22:51
of course I've got feelings for her. We dated and then she was my friend. I like her and I just think she can do a lot better. I was just trying to understand her without asking her....

Yeah.....

"oh by the way, what are you doing with that ugly bastard?"

........just wouldn't go down too well :p

Not everyone chooses a partner PURELY on looks.
New Peeland
30-07-2006, 22:54
Yeah.....

"oh by the way, what are you doing with that ugly bastard?"

........just wouldn't go down too well :p

Not everyone chooses a partner PURELY on looks.
If the guy is a charmer, confident and knows how to look after a lady, why not!!

Matt where are you?
SHAOLIN9
30-07-2006, 23:05
If the guy is a charmer, confident and knows how to look after a lady, why not!!

Matt where are you?

Well you've just stated factors other than looks there. So boo hiss boo!

I dunno what's going on with MSN - I keep sending you messages ;)
Surf Shack
30-07-2006, 23:06
Why does beautiful girls date ugly guys?
Must be their grammar.
:p
New Peeland
30-07-2006, 23:06
Well you've just stated factors other than looks there. So boo hiss boo!

I dunno what's going on with MSN - I keep sending you messages ;)
I'm not getting them :(

Might go to bed!
Rameria
30-07-2006, 23:09
Must be their grammar.
:p
Lol. :p

In response to the OP, there could be any number of reasons your ex is dating someone you think of as ugly. Maybe she doesn't think he's ugly. Maybe he's a really nice guy and personality is more important to her than looks. Maybe he's just her rebound relationship and it doesn't really mean anything. Without knowing you, her, or her new boyfriend, I really can't do anything more than make random guesses.
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 23:13
If the guy is a charmer, confident and knows how to look after a lady, why not!!

Matt where are you?

And you'd be ok with fugly kids as long as you are happy? (I know you arent neccessarily talking about that but just asking theoratically)
New Peeland
30-07-2006, 23:27
And you'd be ok with fugly kids as long as you are happy? (I know you arent neccessarily talking about that but just asking theoratically)
Personally...if I have that attraction to a guy it is normally started with a physical thing. You know when you like someone, I wouldnt put it past myself to fall for a guy who wasnt as hot as I'd like based on how he made me feel. But thats the whole ... *has forgotten what its called* .. you know, how people are programmed to pick out a mate and reproduce, you pick out the best to optimise the quality of your offspring.

I'm sure no matter how my kids came out I would love them just the same. Of course very attractive kids would be a bonus :)
Surf Shack
30-07-2006, 23:29
Personally...if I have that attraction to a guy it is normally started with a physical thing. You know when you like someone, I wouldnt put it past myself to fall for a guy who wasnt as hot as I'd like based on how he made me feel. But thats the whole ... *has forgotten what its called* .. you know, how people are programmed to pick out a mate and reproduce, you pick out the best to optimise the quality of your offspring.

I'm sure no matter how my kids came out I would love them just the same. Of course very attractive kids would be a bonus :)
Yea, I don't know, good-looking couples have ugly kids sometimes, and vice-versa.

And if my son is ugly, I'd genuinely feel bad for him. As for my daughter, well, it WOULD save me a lot of trouble with the *boys at school*. But then I'd end up with an ugly son-in-law.
Vacuumhead
30-07-2006, 23:36
I always have to find something attractive in a man I'm with, but people see different things in people. For example I was best friends a while back with this girl, she thought her boyfriend to be amazingly good looking. I could see where she was coming from, he was kind of cute being quite short with long blond hair and a pretty face. I just never thought of him in that way. I was with this guy at the time, he was hot although my friend kept asking why I even went out with him, he was ugly she said. She never did like dark men, and he was half-caste and I suppose the cauliflower ear didn't really appeal to her. I found him very attractive though. He was tall and well-built. he'd smile a lot too, I like that.

So some guys who some people find ugly do appeal to girls. Or it could just be they like him for other reasons, you know, such as personality and so on...Or maybe beautiful girls like being with a guy who thinks he doesn't deserve her and constantly fawns over her and will do anything to keep her. Maybe.
Philosopy
30-07-2006, 23:36
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
Maybe because judging who you like on the basis of their looks is shallow?

Oh wait, I can't say that, My Nordland has decreed that is 'crap'.
Surf Shack
30-07-2006, 23:39
Maybe because judging who you like on the basis of their looks is shallow?
Then I'm shallow. I don't want to sleep with the same ugly chick for the rest of my life. Every now and then I'll do it when I'm drunk, but at least the girl changes.
WC Imperial Court
30-07-2006, 23:43
And you'd be ok with fugly kids as long as you are happy? (I know you arent neccessarily talking about that but just asking theoratically)
I'd prefer fugly kids. Seriously, I'm not even kidding. I hope my kids, if and when I have them, will be smart (thats VERY important to me), compassionate (also important, but not something I have to worry about since I shall raise them to be compassionate), funny (if they aren't smart I really really hope they are funny).

My little sister is pretty, and I don't like it. Good looks lead to all kinds of trouble. If my kids are ugly, I won't have to worry about their boyfriends or girlfriends only being with them because they are shallow. I would probably worry less about them having sex before they are ready, too. Now, naturally I want my kids to be healthy, and I don't want them to suffer any deformities or anything. But whether they look like Brad Pitt or Penelope Cruz or the Hunchback of Notre Dame, I will love them all the same, and raise them to be good loving people.
Philosopy
30-07-2006, 23:43
Then I'm shallow. I don't want to sleep with the same ugly chick for the rest of my life. Every now and then I'll do it when I'm drunk, but at least the girl changes.
Well, if a your long term relationships are about nothing but sex, then perhaps that is a little shallow.
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 23:44
Well, if a your long term relationships are about nothing but sex, then perhaps that is a little shallow.

Relationships about nothing but sex are seldom long term.
Philosopy
30-07-2006, 23:48
Relationships about nothing but sex are seldom long term.
Exactly why, in a long term relationship, looks are far from the most important thing.
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 23:49
Exactly why, in a long term relationship, looks are far from the most important thing.

Only for those who are ok with fugly kids...
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 23:51
Exactly why, in a long term relationship, looks are far from the most important thing.

Precisely. I just found "long term relatioship about sex" to be an oxymoron.
I know what you mean.
Philosopy
30-07-2006, 23:51
Only for those who are ok with fugly kids...
Actually, it would be more accurate to reverse this whole question and say that the only people who are worried about looks are the ones most woman would probably try and avoid.
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 23:53
Actually, it would be more accurate to reverse this whole question and say that the only people who are worried about looks are the ones most woman would probably try and avoid.


"So you're Brad Pitt?

That don't impress me much
You sure got the looks but haven't got the touch..."

:D
Nordligmark
30-07-2006, 23:53
Actually, it would be more accurate to reverse this whole question and say that the only people who are worried about looks are the ones most woman would probably try and avoid.

Oh you are speaking for most women now...ok....
Philosopy
30-07-2006, 23:55
Oh you are speaking for most women now...ok....
You spoke for 'most women' in your OP and your very question. Therefore, I can do so when I reverse the point.

Or, to put it another way: why isn't she going out with you anymore, then?
Dorstfeld
30-07-2006, 23:56
Or, to put it another way: why isn't she going out with you anymore, then?

Bull's eye.

"What has he that I haven't got?"
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 00:09
You spoke for 'most women' in your OP and your very question. Therefore, I can do so when I reverse the point.

Or, to put it another way: why isn't she going out with you anymore, then?

I didnt speak for women. I was asking them....
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 00:10
Bull's eye.

"What has he that I haven't got?"

Clearly, you've been very offended by this thread....
Dorstfeld
31-07-2006, 00:14
Clearly, you've been very offended by this thread....

Summary so far:

Girl dumps you and gets a another guy whom you deem optically inferior. It bugs you so much you that post about it in here. People try hard to enlighten you that looks aren't everyting. Which doesn't get through to you.

You're acting like a jealous teenager.

Speak to you in 10 years.
Willamena
31-07-2006, 00:16
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

Because looks don't matter?
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 00:22
Summary so far:

Girl dumps you and gets a another guy whom you deem optically inferior. It bugs you so much you that post about it in here. People try hard to enlighten you that looks aren't everyting. Which doesn't get through to you.

You're acting like a jealous teenager.

Speak to you in 10 years.

Again, you must be really offended by this thread since you bother to assume things (like her dumping me) to complete your story....Whatever....
Ragbralbur
31-07-2006, 00:48
Again, you must be really offended by this thread since you bother to assume things (like her dumping me) to complete your story....Whatever....
I know I'm like the tenth person to say this, but the grammar in the title of this thread sucks. Maybe she left you because you lacked a certain amount of what the French call "verb conjugation". Actually, I don't think the French call it that.

Anyway, it should be "Why do beautiful girls date ugly guys?"
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 00:49
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive.

I find myself asking the question 'why do beautiful girls date racist guys?'
Kherberusovichnya
31-07-2006, 01:02
Clearly, you've been very offended by this thread....

Hell, I'm offended by this thread and I just dropped in.

Hint: A lot of people are telling you that personalizing your ex's dating habits (like they are all about you somehow), now that you are OUT OF HER ROMANTIC LIFE, is childish. At best.

They are correct. Your willingness to ignore this (until you get the answer you want) is even more childish, not to mention contemptuous of the other posters.

Hint:A lot of people are telling you your assumption that equating "girls" as a whole to your ex in particular is a stupid and absurd premise to begin with.

They are correct. Your willingness to ignore this makes me assume that you are, in fact, a petulant teenager who cannot properly abstract the specific from the general...or you are acting like one mentally, as a defense against having to ACT LIKE AN ADULT.

Weak. If this is how you are all the time, she's better off dating a hyena. Or a victim of Ebola. Or anyone besides people who act as you do.
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 01:08
If this is how you are all the time, she's better off dating a hyena.

Only if she is in possession of a pseudo-penis though. Obviously.
Saxnot
31-07-2006, 01:13
Because of some sense of universal justice? Give these guys a fucking break. If they can get with porper hot girls then all power to them, dude.
Kherberusovichnya
31-07-2006, 01:19
Only if she is in possession of a pseudo-penis though. Obviously.

S'right. Don't let her get with one of those female hyenas who haven't "alpha'd up" and distended their clit into a proper dong.:D

Ha. I am laughing at the OP. What a waste of text.
Anti-Social Darwinism
31-07-2006, 02:06
Maybe the ugly guys are nice. You know, kind, considerate, thoughtful, generous, humorous, intelligent - all the things good-looking guys don't think are important.
Meath Street
31-07-2006, 02:09
Only for those who are ok with fugly kids...
I know english is not your first language, but the word is "ugly". learn it.

Also, not everyone wants a long term relationship with the intent of having children.
Theoretical Physicists
31-07-2006, 02:36
I find myself asking the question 'why do beautiful girls date racist guys?'
I'm curious as to why you're assuming he must be a racist because he finds a man unattractive. It is possible to find someone ugly because you are racist, but I don't think the converse is true.

To further the discussion, let us consider the question: "why do beautiful men date ugly women?"
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 02:39
I'm curious as to why you're assuming he must be a racist because he finds a man unattractive.

Well, BWO could be doing that.

Or s/he could be basing on Ny Nordland's posting history, which is, undeniably, racist.
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 03:28
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?


Wow. And I thought I was bitter. Trust me no woman would date an unnattractive geek. I speak from experience. So, either this guy isn't as ugly as you're claiming, or she'd just rather be with anyone but you.
Surf Shack
31-07-2006, 03:32
Well, if a your long term relationships are about nothing but sex, then perhaps that is a little shallow.
I'll tell you what. You guys show me how many relationships with bad sex last a long time. If you aren't sexually attracted to your spouse anymore, that is one of the biggest reasons for marriages breaking up. So, yes, I want a beautiful, smart, funny, crazy, mischievous, and unpredictable woman. That is a woman I could be with for the rest of my life, and not eventually lose interest, or end up staying together "for the kids."


Whether or not you like, looks are important.
Surf Shack
31-07-2006, 03:33
Maybe the ugly guys are nice. You know, kind, considerate, thoughtful, generous, humorous, intelligent - all the things good-looking guys don't think are important.
Maybe, but you rarely see really hot women with ugly guys, unless of course they are rich.
Surf Shack
31-07-2006, 03:36
I know english is not your first language, but the word is "ugly". learn it.

Also, not everyone wants a long term relationship with the intent of having children.
And "fugly" is an abbreviated form of "fucking ugly" that has long been a common part of slang, at least here in America. I hate grammar police wannabes. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean you have to make up stuff to down him for.
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 03:48
I always have to find something attractive in a man I'm with, but people see different things in people. For example I was best friends a while back with this girl, she thought her boyfriend to be amazingly good looking. I could see where she was coming from, he was kind of cute being quite short with long blond hair and a pretty face. I just never thought of him in that way. I was with this guy at the time, he was hot although my friend kept asking why I even went out with him, he was ugly she said. She never did like dark men, and he was half-caste and I suppose the cauliflower ear didn't really appeal to her. I found him very attractive though. He was tall and well-built. he'd smile a lot too, I like that.

So some guys who some people find ugly do appeal to girls. Or it could just be they like him for other reasons, you know, such as personality and so on...Or maybe beautiful girls like being with a guy who thinks he doesn't deserve her and constantly fawns over her and will do anything to keep her. Maybe.

Worship? Yeah, heaps of girls love it :p
Eutrusca
31-07-2006, 03:50
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
Well, if it's not money, and it's not personality, then there's only one other thing it can be .... skill! :D
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 03:59
Well, BWO could be doing that.

Or s/he could be basing on Ny Nordland's posting history, which is, undeniably, racist.

The virtual cigar is in the post, Nads.
Antikythera
31-07-2006, 04:04
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
it could be because they would rather be with an "ugly" guy than be with some one who is egotistical like you....:)
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 04:06
it could be because they would rather be with an "ugly" guy than be with some one who is egotistical like you....:)
The logic of a peasant. Carl, I tire of this place, carry me five meters that way. Now carry me back, I dislike metric movement. *eats grape* :p ;)
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 04:12
Worship? Yeah, heaps of girls love it :p
I do, but Shepie hasn't been stalking me much of late. :( :D
Shazbotdom
31-07-2006, 04:21
Ny Nordland (err, i mean Nordligmark),
How about this. Why don't you drop it and stop worrying so much about it. It's her choice who she dates and you shouldn't get your (insert some word not related to women's underware here) in a bind over it. She's not dating you so you shouldn't worry about it. Now if you are that worried about her dating this guy that you supposedly think is "fugly", then your probably getting too emotional about it, as most teenagers do.
Katganistan
31-07-2006, 04:26
I used to know her well, including her type. She might have changed or lied to me about it at the first place. But otherwise and most likely, he isnt her type.

If you knew her so well, why is she your ex?
Eutrusca
31-07-2006, 04:36
If you knew her so well, why is she your ex?
Uh ... knowing a woman well does NOT necessarily equate to being able to hang onto her. :p
Katganistan
31-07-2006, 04:37
And you'd be ok with fugly kids as long as you are happy? (I know you arent neccessarily talking about that but just asking theoratically)
Mmm, who would I theoretically choose as a partner -- an arrogant person who talks down to me and assumes they know what's best for me, who fixates on looks...

...or someone who cares about me, respects me, knows I am more than my looks, treats me as an equal, makes me laugh, and makes me happy?
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 04:42
Mmm, who would I theoretically choose as a partner -- an arrogant person who talks down to me and assumes they know what's best for me, who fixates on looks...

...or someone who cares about me, respects me, knows I am more than my looks, treats me as an equal, makes me laugh, and makes me happy?
What about the ruggedly handsome rebel who's tough and hard outside but has a soft and sensitive heart?

Because I'd like to be like that :(
Katganistan
31-07-2006, 04:42
I know english is not your first language, but the word is "ugly". learn it.

Also, not everyone wants a long term relationship with the intent of having children.

Fugly is a slang contraction for fucking ugly.

A pretty fugly remark to make about someone else.
Katganistan
31-07-2006, 04:46
What about the ruggedly handsome rebel who's tough and hard outside but has a soft and sensitive heart?

Because I'd like to be like that :(

Unfortunately (and I am not saying it would be true in your case) the rebel often tends to end up being the ass, the so called "bad boy" that is also lamented by the "good guys" as taking all the good women. ;)

You have to be careful in balancing the rebel and the artist there. ;)
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 04:47
I do, but Shepie hasn't been stalking me much of late. :( :D
You changed your name oh dark and sadistic one. I, your lowly stalker, was confused. ;)
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 04:53
Unfortunately (and I am not saying it would be true in your case) the rebel often tends to end up being the ass, the so called "bad boy" that is also lamented by the "good guys" as taking all the good women. ;)

Good! That only leaves me with the rugged handsomeness and hard exterior to work at.

And the "keeping my mouth shut some times" thing...

And the "not everything is a joke" thing...

And trying not to be so arrogant some times...

Other than that I think I'm good! :)
Not bad
31-07-2006, 04:54
How many exes do you have and how many of those are now dating men who are not up to your prettiness standards?
Admiral Canaris
31-07-2006, 04:55
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?
They are so ugly so the girls can be sure they won't cheat on them.
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 04:55
I do, but Shepie hasn't been stalking me much of late. :( :D

Aww, I'd offer to stalk you, but I can't be bothered :p
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 04:58
Aww, I'd offer to stalk you, but I can't be bothered :p
Your stalking card is full?
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 05:39
You changed your name oh dark and sadistic one. I, your lowly stalker, was confused. ;)
You made me feel sad. :(

*Beats you senseless*
Zincite
31-07-2006, 05:51
Because people don't have the same idea of what's attractive, particularly people of opposite sexes. I was recently talking to a male friend of mine, and we were playing the game where you name someone you both know and the other person tells you what they think is most attractive about them. Well, there are two girls that he thinks are the hottest in the school, and here were my responses to each of them:

"Um... I don't really think she's that hot... but if I had to choose something, I guess, her hair?"

"[long pause] ... I'm sorry, but I really can't think of anything. Can I tell you why I think she's NOT attractive?"

And when I told him the name of, in my opinion, the hottest guy in the school, he said "I'm sorry, but I just cannot imagine him as attractive, at all."

Some of the guys I have thought were the hottest thing on earth, my gay friend thought were really ugly. I think my best friend's picks are really plain. She hates long hair on guys and I love it. There's a girl in my school that one of my friends describes as "really, really hot" and another says "isn't very attractive".

Bottom line: just because you think the guy is ugly, doesn't mean he's across the board unattractive. She probably thinks he's just fine or better.
Daistallia 2104
31-07-2006, 05:55
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

Well it really does boil down to being more about personality than looks. This was demonstrated in a recent study that showed women were more likely to chose a man as a long term partner on the basis of his liking children over his looks. (I'd dig it up but I don't have time. Maybe someone else?)
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 05:57
You made me feel sad. :(

*Beats you senseless*
... harder. ;)
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:00
... harder. ;)
If you insist. *Thrashes you harder* :rolleyes:
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:01
If you insist. *Thrashes you harder* :rolleyes:
:p
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:06
:p
I dislike smilie spam. If you want me to respond then give me a sentance or two that I could reply to. :gundge:
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:12
I dislike smilie spam. If you want me to respond then give me a sentance or two that I could reply to. :gundge:
Frankly I didn't care if you responded, I'm a cat toying at a woolen ball. :p
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 06:14
Your stalking card is full?

Lol, Not quite, more like, I don't have what it takes to be a stalker :( :p
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:16
Lol, Not quite, more like, I don't have what it takes to be a stalker :( :p
Stalk Shepie for a while and you'll pick things up. :p
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:18
Stalk Shepie for a while and you'll pick things up. :p
I just make it easy. ;)
British Stereotypes
31-07-2006, 06:21
What Shepie does is follow you around then quote all your posts saying ''that's kinky'' ;)
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:23
What Shepie does is follow you around then quote all your posts saying ''that's kinky'' ;)
That's the level one program dearie. And I said "Kinky" not "That's kinky" I'm not paris hilton :p.
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:26
That's the level one program dearie. And I said "Kinky" not "That's kinky" I'm not paris hilton :p.
Like I remember what you say, you pathetic little boy. :rolleyes:
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:27
Like I remember what you say, you pathetic little boy. :rolleyes:
Do I know you?
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 06:32
What Shepie does is follow you around then quote all your posts saying ''that's kinky'' ;)

o_O
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:32
Do I know you?
Stupid firefox, It won't let me stay online as both BritSter and VH. When I make a post in one window, my other self transforms into the one that posted. :(
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:33
o_O
I assure you, all of Britsters posts were kinky, I was a victim of circemstance.
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:34
Stupid firefox, It won't let me stay online as both BritSter and VH. When I make a post in one window, my other self transforms into the one that posted. :(
I know, I tried the same thing with torture solutions INC until the mods deleted that puppet.
British Stereotypes
31-07-2006, 06:35
I assure you, all of Britsters posts were kinky, I was a victim of circemstance.
You speak like I don't exist anymore. That makes me very angry. :mad:
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:37
You speak like I don't exist anymore. That makes me very angry. :mad:
Made you very angry. :p
Vacuumhead
31-07-2006, 06:39
Made you very angry. :p
Stop provoking me or I'll beat you witless. :mad:
Free shepmagans
31-07-2006, 06:40
Stop provoking me or I'll beat you witless. :mad:
*Happy sigh* It's good to be back.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 10:28
I dont think i've ever dated an 'ugly' guy, but it depends on perception really.

not that I think i'm good looking or anything

Maybe he isn't ugly, maybe he just isn't you, it bugs you :p
Kanabia
31-07-2006, 10:40
They do? There's hope for me yet. :p :D
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 10:43
I dont think i've ever dated an 'ugly' guy, but it depends on perception really.

not that I think i'm good looking or anything

Maybe he isn't ugly, maybe he just isn't you, it bugs you :p

I did date an ugly guy once. But then again, I'm not really what you would call a "beautiful" girl either ;)
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 10:44
I did date an ugly guy once. But then again, I'm not really what you would call a "beautiful" girl either ;)

hehe

I tend to go for personality and stuff, that's what I find attractive, and most have been nice looking, but that's not what I'm drawn to, just the way it turns out.
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 11:10
hehe

I tend to go for personality and stuff, that's what I find attractive, and most have been nice looking, but that's not what I'm drawn to, just the way it turns out.

I wouldn't have called him ugly if I had liked his personality much ;)
It really was just a rebound thing, to be honest....
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 11:19
They do? There's hope for me yet. :p :D

*Thwacks you with random fish* You're not ugly :rolleyes:
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 11:20
I wouldn't have called him ugly if I had liked his personality much ;)
It really was just a rebound thing, to be honest....
I had a 6 month rebound thing with an older guy

*shakes head at self*

idgit

meh, what's a girl to do? ;)
Kanabia
31-07-2006, 11:22
*Thwacks you with random fish* You're not ugly :rolleyes:

Fine, i'm just unhot. :p

but thankyou
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 11:29
Fine, i'm just unhot. :p

:rolleyes:

but thankyou

You like thwackings with random fish? :D

*Resolves to thwack you so more often* :p
Kanabia
31-07-2006, 11:31
:rolleyes:

...

You like thwackings with random fish? :D

*Resolves to thwack you so more often* :p

As long as you don't bring a certain trout into it...
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 11:32
I had a 6 month rebound thing with an older guy

*shakes head at self*

idgit

meh, what's a girl to do? ;)

*lol

I was in fact in the rebound from an older guy... going from old to ugly... ah well. Story of my life :p
Harlesburg
31-07-2006, 11:32
Because Beautiful girls aren't heartless?:confused:
Peisandros
31-07-2006, 11:34
Hmm. I don't get this one. Sorta like the younger girl/older guy thing. I'm not so good at understanding the opposite sex. Well, I am sometimes. But not with these sorts of things.

It may have something to do with secruity. Perhaps they feel like if they are with an uglier guy there is no chance of him hurting her. I guess that kind of makes sense but I'm not sure if it's true at all.
IL Ruffino
31-07-2006, 11:41
So why?
Maybe you're just jealous?
The Beautiful Darkness
31-07-2006, 11:41
...



As long as you don't bring a certain trout into it...

Never fear, I shan't be putting my hands onto that trout! :eek:

:fluffle:
Kanabia
31-07-2006, 11:48
Never fear, I shan't be putting my hands onto that trout! :eek:

:fluffle:

Good. :p :fluffle:
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 12:38
THERE'S HOPE FOR ME YET!!!!!:p
It's....it's like you're channeling my thoughts.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
Ravenshrike
31-07-2006, 13:57
Because, by and large, females are not nearly as visually oriented as males when it comes to arousal.
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 14:19
I don't know why the prettiest of girls are willing to date ( and do more ;) ) with guys who don't exactly make Brad Pitt jealeous.

I'm just happy they do.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:26
hmm, I think to an extent its a self esteam thing - girls with low self esteam aim low, and most women have an 'average' self esteam.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 14:26
I tend to go for personality and stuff, that's what I find attractive, and most have been nice looking, but that's not what I'm drawn to, just the way it turns out.
Suuuuuuuuure...
I've never dated a fat girl. It's not that I look for them that way, they just turn out like that ;)
Infinite Revolution
31-07-2006, 14:28
...So why?
big willy and/or good sense of humour probably
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:30
Suuuuuuuuure...
I've never dated a fat girl. It's not that I look for them that way, they just turn out like that ;)

lol

obviously looks matter to a degree, I dont deny that, but I've dated heavier guys before.

Cant beat a nice set of arms though.. *daydreams*
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 14:31
Ok, summary so far:

1) Rebound: This one I like best!
2) Personality/makes her feel good: Then why dont they go for good looking guys with good personality? Why do some girls settle for less?
3) Money: I said this is not an issue, so this is invalid.
4) Good sex: Why not they find a good looking guy who makes good sex?
5) Big penis: I dont think most girls go for big penis exclusively. And if they do, I'm sure they can find many guys with big penises who arent ugly.
6) Good looks are subjective: Sometimes they are, sometimes they arent.
There are many celebrities whom most people agree that they are good looking. Again, there are some people whom most people agree that they are ugly...
7) Security (ugly bf wouldnt leave hot gf): Hmmm, more opinions about this?

Ok, anything I forgot? Any other reasons you can think of, ladies?
Dakini
31-07-2006, 14:31
The guy I'm dating now isn't the best looking guy in the world, he's kinda cute in a strange way, but he's kind, considerate, smart and a lot of fun to be around.
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 14:35
The guy I'm dating now isn't the best looking guy in the world, he's kinda cute in a strange way, but he's kind, considerate, smart and a lot of fun to be around.

;) Unlike the previous one...
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 14:36
Mmm, who would I theoretically choose as a partner -- an arrogant person who talks down to me and assumes they know what's best for me, who fixates on looks...

...or someone who cares about me, respects me, knows I am more than my looks, treats me as an equal, makes me laugh, and makes me happy?

I didnt talk down to her. I didnt say anything about her choice of bf, actually.


Fugly is a slang contraction for fucking ugly.

A pretty fugly remark to make about someone else.

I didnt tell it to his or her face. And I really dont think they are reading this thread. So this thread is too abstract to hurt anyone's feeling, I think. I'm just trying to understand why some women settle for less?
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:37
The guy I'm dating now isn't the best looking guy in the world, he's kinda cute in a strange way, but he's kind, considerate, smart and a lot of fun to be around.
We always think the current one is the best thing since sliced bread.

Personally, I always compare to an ex.. so I'm probably never gonna be happy *self pitty*

.. nah, I'll meet 'mr wonderful' and all will be forgotten

:rolleyes:
Dakini
31-07-2006, 14:38
2) Personality/makes her feel good: Then why dont they go for good looking guys with good personality? Why do some girls settle for less?
If you find someone who is a great person and you like them a lot, who says you're settling? Someone doesn't have to be smoking hot to be a good person and when you find a good person, why are you going to go reject them because they're "not hot enough".

4) Good sex: Why not they find a good looking guy who makes good sex?
Why does it matter? If you're to the point where you're fucking the person, why does it something as superficial as how they look matter?

Ok, anything I forgot? Any other reasons you can think of, ladies?
Because there are good looking guys like you (presumably, unless you're self-hating) who are completly superficial assholes?
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 14:41
.. nah, I'll meet 'mr wonderful' and all will be forgotten

:rolleyes:
I'll let you know as soon as I work out these little matters: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11467489&postcount=99
Dakini
31-07-2006, 14:42
We always think the current one is the best thing since sliced bread.
It doesn't change the fact that he's a really great guy.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:42
I'll let you know as soon as I work out these little matters: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11467489&postcount=99

lol

erm, thanks

But trust me, you're aiming low :p
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:43
It doesn't change the fact that he's a really great guy.

No of course not.

but it's true :)
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 14:44
If you find someone who is a great person and you like them a lot, who says you're settling? Someone doesn't have to be smoking hot to be a good person and when you find a good person, why are you going to go reject them because they're "not hot enough".
Plus physical appearance can be improved. A personality is much harder to change.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:53
Plus physical appearance can be improved. A personality is much harder to change.

this is very true

but you shouldn't really be with someone you want to change, because if they never do then you'll end up leaving
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 14:55
lol

erm, thanks

But trust me, you're aiming low :p
Gotta' start somewhere!
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 14:55
Why does it matter? If you're to the point where you're fucking the person, why does it something as superficial as how they look matter?

You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 14:56
Gotta' start somewhere!

LOL
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 14:58
this is very true

but you shouldn't really be with someone you want to change, because if they never do then you'll end up leaving
Most guys who are not handsome will gladly accept advice from girlfriend to make them look better (within limits, if the guy is a t-shirt kind of guy don't expect him to wear a three-piece suit all of a sudden, but he'll wear better t-shirts).
Dakini
31-07-2006, 14:58
;) Unlike the previous one...
The previous one ended up being a coward. Other than that I wouldn't say he was a bad guy.
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 14:58
Ok, summary so far:

1) Rebound: This one I like best!
2) Personality/makes her feel good: Then why dont they go for good looking guys with good personality? Why do some girls settle for less?

*roflmao

Show me one, just one!


4) Good sex: Why not they find a good looking guy who makes good sex?
5) Big penis: I dont think most girls go for big penis exclusively. And if they do, I'm sure they can find many guys with big penises who arent ugly.
6) Good looks are subjective: Sometimes they are, sometimes they arent.
There are many celebrities whom most people agree that they are good looking. Again, there are some people whom most people agree that they are ugly...

Ok, anything I forgot? Any other reasons you can think of, ladies?


Ok, I think you heard only half of what was said so far. Why bother with looking further if you found someone you like, you feel ok with, who has a good sense of humour, with whom you have good sex and who has a sizeable dick?

A girl is lucky to find one guy in her life to meet all these attributes. If there's a guy I'm happy with, why would I want to look further, even if he doesn't look like Brad Pitt?

Oh, and the fact that "most people" agree on who's ugly and who's not doesn't necessarily mean she has to share their opinion. ;)
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:00
Most guys who are not handsome will gladly accept advice from girlfriend to make them look better (within limits, if the guy is a t-shirt kind of guy don't expect him to wear a three-piece suit all of a sudden, but he'll wear better t-shirts).

it wouldnt make them insecure that he's not really what she's looking for?

In saying that, I went shopping with a boyfriend and helped pick stuff that suited him, colours and stuff, did a bit of a wardrobe update.
Dakini
31-07-2006, 15:02
Most guys who are not handsome will gladly accept advice from girlfriend to make them look better (within limits, if the guy is a t-shirt kind of guy don't expect him to wear a three-piece suit all of a sudden, but he'll wear better t-shirts).
I kinda wonder how this goes for hair removal things...
BogMarsh
31-07-2006, 15:03
The previous one ended up being a coward. Other than that I wouldn't say he was a bad guy.

*giggle* I remember what you said earlier...
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:03
I kinda wonder how this goes for hair removal things...

Quite well

I was allowed to pluck / wax the likl hairs between his eye brows

but that was it

and advise on skin care.. always got dry skin after shaving.. ended up using my leg shaving gel because it was kinder to the skiN!
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:06
it wouldnt make them insecure that he's not really what she's looking for?
If he's 17, maybe. :)

Depends on how you do it, of course. Guys don't like nagging, but a friendly suggestion or going shopping, like you did, is much appreciated. I usually take girlfriends (or girl friends) when shopping for ties and shirts.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:07
I kinda wonder how this goes for hair removal things...
Right after sex, then we'll let you do anything.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:07
If he's 17, maybe. :)

Depends on how you do it, of course. Guys don't like nagging, but a friendly suggestion or going shopping, like you did, is much appreciated. I usually take girlfriends (or girl friends) when shopping for ties and shirts.
I love shopping with guys
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:08
Right after sex, then we'll let you do anything.

not anything ;)
Dakini
31-07-2006, 15:09
*giggle* I remember what you said earlier...
I probably said a lot of things... oh well, live in the present and all.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:09
not anything ;)
Well, not if you've loosened the handcuffs already.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:10
Well, not if you've loosened the handcuffs already.

I need to get me some of those.
Eutrusca
31-07-2006, 15:10
The previous one ended up being a coward. Other than that I wouldn't say he was a bad guy.
Show me a "coward" and I'll show you someone who simply doesn't know themselves yet. Inside every "coward" is a hero waiting for the necessary circumstances.
Bodies Without Organs
31-07-2006, 15:10
Well, not if you've loosened the handcuffs already.

Genius.
Eutrusca
31-07-2006, 15:11
I need to get me some of those.
I have some already, plus ankle restraints! Mmmmmm! :D
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:12
I have some already, plus ankle restraints! Mmmmmm! :D
I have other methods on hand, but not actual cuffs
Dakini
31-07-2006, 15:16
Show me a "coward" and I'll show you someone who simply doesn't know themselves yet. Inside every "coward" is a hero waiting for the necessary circumstances.
Well, I say he's a coward because he dumped me in an email and hasn't communicated with me since at all. I at least deserved a phone call...
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
31-07-2006, 15:20
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

Excuse me, how do you sleep at night? You're more judgemental than Ebert, Roeper, Mencia, and my future mother in law all put together. Just to say, he may be ugly, but it's the inside that counts. And when did guys decide if guys are sexy? Well, I mean heterosexual guys.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:20
I have other methods on hand, but not actual cuffs
Hmmm... imagination wonders.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:21
Hmmm... imagination wonders.
um, they're called belts

or scarfs (or is it scarves)
Monta Carna
31-07-2006, 15:23
I know english is not your first language, but the word is "ugly". learn it.

Also, not everyone wants a long term relationship with the intent of having children.

I believe "fugly" is a contraction of "f-ing ugly". At least that's how I've always heard it used.

To the original poster... Just ask her why she's with this guy. If in fact you are still decent friends, and if in fact you bring it up in a non-confrontational, non-demeaning way (watch your tone, if you feel at all confrontational or demeaning Don't Ask because, trust me, the undertones of that will come out and they can always tell) I'm sure she can tell you and then your restless mind will be at peace.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:23
Well, I say he's a coward because he dumped me in an email and hasn't communicated with me since at all. I at least deserved a phone call...
Now, that's a new low. Like breaking up through a note in the school yard.
Monta Carna
31-07-2006, 15:24
It's scarves.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:25
It's scarves.

Ta!
Evil Satanic OzMonkeys
31-07-2006, 15:26
I'm biased. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. Dating children is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

Excuse me, what? I find you repulsive. That is SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!!
Anglo Germany
31-07-2006, 15:27
This was something Terry Pratchett Described in one of his books, and has now found its way onto Wikipedia

The Jerk Syndrome
Described in Thud!. This is a condition that may be experienced by a woman who is so beautiful, so alluring, that, as Angua describes it it, any man with half a brain isn't even going to think about asking her out, because it's obvious she's too grand for the likes of him. This leads her to believe that the problem is at her end, and that there must be something wrong with her. This persists until she meets a man who, for the purposes of this discussion, does not have half a brain (i.e. is too stupid to realize she'll likely reject him, or is so used to rejection that it doesn't bother him, or has some other flaw that stems from an even more major flaw), and he does in fact ask her out, and she is so grateful that she says yes; it is implied that problems ensue because she is, as it were, going to a fancy, lavish restaurant and only ordering a bread roll and maybe a small salad.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:28
um, they're called belts

or scarfs (or is it scarves)
Or ties, or shoelaces, or panties. Sure, some things may be a bit rough, but he'll have to take it like a man.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:28
This was something Terry Pratchett Described in one of his books, and has now found its way onto Wikipedia

The Jerk Syndrome
Described in Thud!. This is a condition that may be experienced by a woman who is so beautiful, so alluring, that, as Angua describes it it, any man with half a brain isn't even going to think about asking her out, because it's obvious she's too grand for the likes of him. This leads her to believe that the problem is at her end, and that there must be something wrong with her. This persists until she meets a man who, for the purposes of this discussion, does not have half a brain (i.e. is too stupid to realize she'll likely reject him, or is so used to rejection that it doesn't bother him, or has some other flaw that stems from an even more major flaw), and he does in fact ask her out, and she is so grateful that she says yes; it is implied that problems ensue because she is, as it were, going to a fancy, lavish restaurant and only ordering a bread roll and maybe a small salad.
Tezza is god.

He rules

and yes, very true
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:29
Or ties, or shoelaces, or panties. Sure, some things may be a bit rough, but he'll have to take it like a man.
I have never used my panties to tie a man up.. and dont think I would.... they're good shit, not cheap BHS own.

show laces?

geez... how did you need to tie them up THAT badly? Were they going to run away?

:p
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:31
show laces?

geez... how did you need to tie them up THAT badly? Were they going to run away?

:p
Better safe than sorry!
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:32
Better safe than sorry!

rofl

just blind fold her while the lights are out :p
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 15:34
rofl

just blind fold her while the lights are out :p
I don't want them stepping on the cat.
Mstreeted
31-07-2006, 15:38
I don't want them stepping on the cat.

Ah

well

Thats not the kitty you should be thinking about really

but no matter

off topic

beautiful girls date ugly guys becauuuuusse... it makes em feel prettier?
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 16:13
Excuse me, what? I find you repulsive. That is SIMPLY DISGUSTING!!!

I didnt write such thing. Look at my #1 post again. It's also not edited. You wrote my name in the QUOTE= section and wrote the post yourself. That was very idiotic and cheap....I find you repulsive that you thought about producing such a disgusting post.
Nordligmark
31-07-2006, 16:24
This was something Terry Pratchett Described in one of his books, and has now found its way onto Wikipedia

The Jerk Syndrome
Described in Thud!. This is a condition that may be experienced by a woman who is so beautiful, so alluring, that, as Angua describes it it, any man with half a brain isn't even going to think about asking her out, because it's obvious she's too grand for the likes of him. This leads her to believe that the problem is at her end, and that there must be something wrong with her. This persists until she meets a man who, for the purposes of this discussion, does not have half a brain (i.e. is too stupid to realize she'll likely reject him, or is so used to rejection that it doesn't bother him, or has some other flaw that stems from an even more major flaw), and he does in fact ask her out, and she is so grateful that she says yes; it is implied that problems ensue because she is, as it were, going to a fancy, lavish restaurant and only ordering a bread roll and maybe a small salad.

Even if she's THAT intimidating, it's nothing a couple of votka's cant fix....Besides she should understand that there's nothing wrong with her when all guys drool at her. Well at least the str8 ones with eye sight.
Dakini
31-07-2006, 16:31
This was something Terry Pratchett Described in one of his books, and has now found its way onto Wikipedia

The Jerk Syndrome
Described in Thud!. This is a condition that may be experienced by a woman who is so beautiful, so alluring, that, as Angua describes it it, any man with half a brain isn't even going to think about asking her out, because it's obvious she's too grand for the likes of him. This leads her to believe that the problem is at her end, and that there must be something wrong with her. This persists until she meets a man who, for the purposes of this discussion, does not have half a brain (i.e. is too stupid to realize she'll likely reject him, or is so used to rejection that it doesn't bother him, or has some other flaw that stems from an even more major flaw), and he does in fact ask her out, and she is so grateful that she says yes; it is implied that problems ensue because she is, as it were, going to a fancy, lavish restaurant and only ordering a bread roll and maybe a small salad.
:rolleyes:
I love how when a guy can't get a girl or sees a man he deems himself better than with a girl he has to act like she's got some huge personality disorder or something. You know, if most guys gave it a shot in a non-creepy and dignified manner, they'd get somewhere.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 16:47
Ah

well

Thats not the kitty you should be thinking about really

Ok, but if it decides to use your buttocks as scratching post don't complain.

but no matter

off topic

beautiful girls date ugly guys becauuuuusse... it makes em feel prettier?
It also makes all her friends jealous. How, you ask? Very simple. They think "If she's dating him and he's so ugly that must mean he must be very, very, very good at something. I want him! I WANT HIM NOW!!!!"

Or something like that.
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 16:55
:rolleyes:
I love how when a guy can't get a girl or sees a man he deems himself better than with a girl he has to act like she's got some huge personality disorder or something. You know, if most guys gave it a shot in a non-creepy and dignified manner, they'd get somewhere.


Doesn't always work that way.
Isiseye
31-07-2006, 17:40
Maybe he memorized the Kama Sutra.
Maybe he was rich.
Maybe he drugged her.
Maybe he was 'gifted' in other areas.

Yes all are possible. Also maybe you were such an ass she was turned off 'pretty guys' thou I will need photographic evidence to back up such claims.


Maybe he drugged her.
Don't like this one
Dzanissimo
31-07-2006, 17:50
Ran into an ex-gf recently, whom we were friends afterwards. I couldnt believe who she was dating with. Maybe I'm biased, but to put it kindly he was really not attractive. I notice this with some other girls as well. So my question is why? Maybe some of female NSGers can explain this bizzare phenomenon. And dont give me "looks are shallow" crap. Dating is closely related with mating and I cant believe women would like their children to be ugly. And money is also out of the equation in this case and some cases. So why?

Because all guys are ugly
Isiseye
31-07-2006, 17:51
Because all guys are ugly


:eek: Are you a lesbian??????
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:00
Well, I say he's a coward because he dumped me in an email and hasn't communicated with me since at all. I at least deserved a phone call...
Hey, at least it wasn't a text message. His method at least contained words that weren't mere abbreviations of their former selves. Observe:

im sry, i dnt think its wrking :'(
plz dnt call me, im seeing sum1 else.
yr bst frnd, lol. xoxoxo
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 18:17
I did date an ugly guy once. But then again, I'm not really what you would call a "beautiful" girl either ;)

If you're anything to go by on this you've got to be pretty hot personality wise...as for looks...WE NEED PICS :p
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 18:19
Most guys who are not handsome will gladly accept advice from girlfriend to make them look better (within limits, if the guy is a t-shirt kind of guy don't expect him to wear a three-piece suit all of a sudden, but he'll wear better t-shirts).

You obviously know my ex then...
Minoriteeburg
31-07-2006, 18:27
Personality most likely......if not penis size.
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 18:34
Hey, at least it wasn't a text message. His method at least contained words that weren't mere abbreviations of their former selves. Observe:

im sry, i dnt think its wrking :'(
plz dnt call me, im seeing sum1 else.
yr bst frnd, lol. xoxoxo


Classy, I have to confess I split with my ex by email...mainly due to her ceasing all communication, plus wanting to give up any chance of having a future career for two weeks in the sun amongst other things :mad: Well f**k that quite frankly.

That said, it was a bloody good email...
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:37
Classy, I have to confess I split with my ex by email...mainly due to her ceasing all communication, plus wanting to give up any chance of having a future career for two weeks in the sun amongst other things :mad: Well f**k that quite frankly.

That said, it was a bloody good email...
Unless you sent your manhood as an attachment, I doubt she was best pleased.
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 18:39
That said, it was a bloody good email...
Did you end it with "Forward this email to 100 people in the next 5 minutes or your nose will fall off" ?
Masuabie
31-07-2006, 18:39
Girls are more attacted to personnality then looks..generally.
uhh no lol they dont
Nihonou-san
31-07-2006, 18:49
Nordlingmark,
You have a bit of a problem. Maybe she likes him better because he has grammar skills that you lack, is funny, and has a good personality. If he really is ugly, good for him. Now get over it. I suggest going a few rounds with the nearest punching bag.
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 18:50
Unless you sent your manhood as an attachment, I doubt she was best pleased.

No, she wasn't, but without going into the whole damn scenario again, all of my friends backed me doing it. Quite frankly though, it got to the point where I was beyond caring what she had to say because she was controlling me so much, apparently my friends both at uni and at home said I was acting completely differently when she was around. The point where I have to change to suit someone else and bend to them so much that my friends think i'm a different person is one I refused to take further. So finally, I got out from under the thumb and finally stood up for myself. This was followed by a nasty phone call in which she demanded a whole load of stuff that I refused to do. She said she never wanted to speak to me again. I tried ringing, texting just to talk to her. She refused to answer. The rest is history and about bloody time too.

Did you end it with "Forward this email to 100 people in the next 5 minutes or your nose will fall off" ?

Bollocks, I knew there was something I forgot :D
Dzanissimo
31-07-2006, 18:50
:eek: Are you a lesbian??????

No, I am a straight guy.

And I really mean it - all guys are ugly.

You know, when you look in men's magazines there are pictures of partially naked women. When you look in women's magazines there are also pictures of partially naked women. The reason is that women body is beautiful, but man's body is not and should not be viewed in daylight.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 18:58
No, I am a straight guy.

And I really mean it - all guys are ugly.

You know, when you look in men's magazines there are pictures of partially naked women. When you look in women's magazines there are also pictures of partially naked women. The reason is that women body is beautiful, but man's body is not and should not be viewed in daylight.
Nah, what you mean is that you think all guys are ugly. You're probably not programmed to see blokes as attractive. I have it on strict authority that guys can be attractive from straight women, gay blokes and the tiny minority of actual bisexual people I know.
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 19:02
Nah, what you mean is that you think all guys are ugly. You're probably not programmed to see blokes as attractive. I have it on strict authority that guys can be attractive from straight women, gay blokes and the tiny minority of actual bisexual people I know.

Straight men can say that other men are attractive too...


We just say they are "That smug git bastard chatting up the girl I like over there..." ;) :D
Cannot think of a name
31-07-2006, 19:19
Why? I don't know, man. I'm not looking that gift horse in the mouth.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 19:26
Straight men can say that other men are attractive too...


We just say they are "That smug git bastard chatting up the girl I like over there..." ;) :D
Eh, I was just making the point to Dzanissimo, that virile, hot blooded, non-nonsense, straight as an arrow bloke. ¬_¬ I'm perfectly aware that some blokes are attractive - a couple of friends of mine always, without fail invoke the drunken but ultimately uncomfortable conversation about who they'd go gay for if they had to. Brad Pitt seems to get mentioned a lot. :eek:
Iztatepopotla
31-07-2006, 19:28
Eh, I was just making the point to Dzanissimo, that virile, hot blooded, non-nonsense, straight as an arrow bloke. ¬_¬ I'm perfectly aware that some blokes are attractive - a couple of friends of mine always, without fail invoke the drunken but ultimately uncomfortable conversation about who they'd go gay for if they had to. Brad Pitt seems to get mentioned a lot. :eek:
Of course, no one in his right mind would do as David Bowie and go gay for Mick Jagger. Or viceversa, I'm not sure anymore.
Nadkor
31-07-2006, 19:29
Nordlingmark,
You have a bit of a problem. Maybe she likes him better because he has grammar skills that you lack,

Can you speak any second languages as well as Nordland can speak English?
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 19:50
Nordland, have you considered the possibility that maybe she likes this other guy because he's not a total prick?
Congressional Dimwits
31-07-2006, 19:53
There's more to life than physical appearnace, you know. Many people who've spent their whole lives getting what they want (and not having to do anything for it) have become complete shmucks. Most women would go for the nice, fun, and comical guy over the "hot" one. Also, it has a lot to do with a person's interest in someone (which is why foreigners tend to do so well), so someone who travels the world for a living is going to rank much higher than some moron who'll spend the rest of his life flipping burgers. Why should someone go out with a complete ass just because they're attractive? The guy isn't going to treat her well, and the relationship isn't going to have any kind of a long-term future until he wises up. Most women (when they're ready to settle down, anyway) will instead choose someone they like as a person. Looks fade with time. People don't.
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 19:54
There's more to life than physical appearnace, you know. Many people who've spent their whole lives getting what they want (and not having to do anything for it) have become complete shmucks. Most women would go for the nice, fun, and comical guy over the "hot" one. Also, it has a lot to do with a person's interest in someone (which is why foreigners tend to do so well), so someone who travels the world for a living is going to rank much higher than some moron who'll spend the rest of his life flipping burgers. Why should someone go out with a complete ass just because they're attractive? The guy isn't going to treat her well, and the relationship isn't going to have any kind of a long-term future until he wises up. Most women (when they're ready to settle down, anyway) will instead choose someone they like as a person. Looks fade with time. People don't.


Either this isn't true, or I've spent my entire life hanging around the wrong women.
Congressional Dimwits
31-07-2006, 20:00
Either this isn't true, or I've spent my entire life hanging around the wrong women.

No, you've spent your entire life with either women who are shallow (which is mostly unlikely) or with women who haven't even yet seen the slightest usage in settling down. If I'm correct (Tell me if I'm wrong.), then they're probobly not too long out of college (or of comparitave age (NOTE: If you're British, you would call it University.)) and probably dating people for the sake of being with someone, the "fun" of it (if you know what I mean), or they are simply inexperienced at the whole process and are firing shots in the dark.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:06
Nordland, have you considered the possibility that maybe she likes this other guy because he's not a total prick?
Is there an implication buried beneath that question?
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 20:09
Eh, I was just making the point to Dzanissimo, that virile, hot blooded, non-nonsense, straight as an arrow bloke. ¬_¬ I'm perfectly aware that some blokes are attractive - a couple of friends of mine always, without fail invoke the drunken but ultimately uncomfortable conversation about who they'd go gay for if they had to. Brad Pitt seems to get mentioned a lot. :eek:

Ahhhh, that conversation...

...everyone goes away feeling either more uncomfortable or more confused than they were before...

BTW, I was more backing up your point than contradicting you...
Arthais101
31-07-2006, 20:09
Classy, I have to confess I split with my ex by email...mainly due to her ceasing all communication, plus wanting to give up any chance of having a future career for two weeks in the sun amongst other things :mad: Well f**k that quite frankly.

That said, it was a bloody good email...

If she cut off all forms of communication with you, hate to say it, but you weren't the one doing the splitting up =P
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 20:15
If she cut off all forms of communication with you, hate to say it, but you weren't the one doing the splitting up =P

Not so. I found out later (3 days later in fact), from a mutual best friend who used to be my ex's housemate, that she was just wanting to leave me to stew for a while and change my mind in the process (her usual method, as normally I would go crawling back. Not so this time). She was shocked that I actually did it. *Shrug*
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 20:17
Is there an implication buried beneath that question?


Well, not about you.
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 20:21
No, you've spent your entire life with either women who are shallow (which is mostly unlikely) or with women who haven't even yet seen the slightest usage in settling down. If I'm correct (Tell me if I'm wrong.), then they're probobly not too long out of college (or of comparitave age (NOTE: If you're British, you would call it University.)) and probably dating people for the sake of being with someone, the "fun" of it (if you know what I mean), or they are simply inexperienced at the whole process and are firing shots in the dark.


Some are of that age, some are in their 30s. I suppose an arguement could be made that I'm just bitter and cynical (probably true), but I wasn't born bitter and cynical. The other possibilty is that it's the wheelchair, in which case I'm pretty much screwed relationship-wise.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:21
Well, not about you.
It would have to have been one hell of an implication to have been about me.

I missed putting a :p smilie at the end of the other post. The implication itself is a bit obvious, I was just doing faux shock. Since I haven't read this thread really, is there anything showing this guy's a dick other than the righteous indignation that attractive people should be banned from seeing the fugly (such as myself), or indeed that he classes himself as far more attractive that your average clod (quite a feat of vanity in itself)?
SHAOLIN9
31-07-2006, 20:23
It's....it's like you're channeling my thoughts.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

*LOL*

sorry.... I got bored and took a stroll and ended up in some weird place. I'll leave now ;)
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 20:24
It would have to have been one hell of an implication to have been about me.

I missed putting a :p smilie at the end of the other post. The implication itself is a bit obvious, I was just doing faux shock. Since I haven't read this thread really, is there anything showing this guy's a dick other than the righteous indignation that attractive people should be banned from seeing the fugly (such as myself), or indeed that he classes himself as far more attractive that your average clod (quite a feat of vanity in itself)?

Have a guess....its Ny Nordland after all so it shouldn't strain your brain too much...
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:24
*LOL*

sorry.... I got bored and took a stroll and ended up in some weird place. I'll leave now ;)
Yeah, um, don't stick around. There's some stuff in there I'd rather people didn....GET OUT OF THERE, THAT AREA'S PRIVATE! NO, THE LEATHER STUFF IS FOR SHOW ONLY!
Maineiacs
31-07-2006, 20:25
It would have to have been one hell of an implication to have been about me.

I missed putting a :p smilie at the end of the other post. The implication itself is a bit obvious, I was just doing faux shock. Since I haven't read this thread really, is there anything showing this guy's a dick other than the righteous indignation that attractive people should be banned from seeing the fugly (such as myself), or indeed that he classes himself as far more attractive that your average clod (quite a feat of vanity in itself)?



Apparently, he's Ny Nordland renamed, and if you'd ever read anything he's posted, believe me, you wouldn't have to ask that question.
The Tribes Of Longton
31-07-2006, 20:25
Have a guess....its Ny Nordland after all so it shouldn't strain your brain too much...
More proof that I've dropped off a bit on these forums. I can't remember anything he's posted. Anyone I can compare him to?
SHAOLIN9
31-07-2006, 20:27
They do? There's hope for me yet. :p :D

Hey, stop copying my posts dammit!! :mad:

*pokes you in the eye with a care bear* :D
SHAOLIN9
31-07-2006, 20:30
Yeah, um, don't stick around. There's some stuff in there I'd rather people didn....GET OUT OF THERE, THAT AREA'S PRIVATE! NO, THE LEATHER STUFF IS FOR SHOW ONLY!

:eek: TRIBES - you're kinkier than I thought! :eek:

*runs away, taking gimp mask as a memento* :p
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 20:39
More proof that I've dropped off a bit on these forums. I can't remember anything he's posted. Anyone I can compare him to?

Hitler? hmmmmm....maybe some other little faschist dictators, general racists etc etc
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 21:02
If you're anything to go by on this you've got to be pretty hot personality wise...as for looks...WE NEED PICS :p

*lol
You're not seriously going to tell me you haven't seen a pic of me yet? I almost start feeling like the attention whore I am for the sheer number of pics I've posted here over the months :p
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 21:45
*lol
You're not seriously going to tell me you haven't seen a pic of me yet? I almost start feeling like the attention whore I am for the sheer number of pics I've posted here over the months :p

Ah but you see, I haven't been around for months :D
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 22:32
Ok, so I found your pic on the profile thingy. You look exactly like one of my room mates from uni...thats scary...
Cabra West
31-07-2006, 22:36
Ok, so I found your pic on the profile thingy. You look exactly like one of my room mates from uni...thats scary...

I do? Unless your name is either Bianca or Patricia, that's almost impossible.
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 22:39
I do? Unless your name is either Bianca or Patricia, that's almost impossible.

Depends what kind of party i'm at, but no, they aren't my name ;)
Not bad
31-07-2006, 22:42
I do? Unless your name is either Bianca or Patricia, that's almost impossible.

Maybe Bianca and Patricia werent their real names
Kellarly
31-07-2006, 22:45
Maybe Bianca and Patricia werent their real names

The plot thickens...