NationStates Jolt Archive

...so I fail to see your point.
Yes you do.

Oh really? They wanted to make a country there when all Arabs rejected that! They have to face the consequences or their decision.

Of course it can be undone: Iran, Syria and Hizbollah and Hamas are working on that.

Israel is in a bad situation now, because they're fighting a militia - and fighting a militia is harder than fighting an organized army.

WTF is Israel bombing now? They're bombing and damaging Libanon, not Hizbollah.

From http://www.forbes.com/entrepreneurs/feeds/ap/2006/07/16/ap2881436.html:

"Trying to defuse the violence, which began when Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers and killed eight others in a cross-border raid, Lebanon's prime minister indicated he might send his army to take control of southern Lebanon from Hezbollah - a move that might risk civil war."

By pounding the hell out of the targets in Lebanon, they are not only destroying Hezbollah's infrastructure, they're also pissing off the Lebanese to the point of intervening to stop Hezbollah, if for nothing else to save their own country from annihilation.

Terrorists like these who hide out in civilian neighborhoods can be blamed for collateral damage and civilian deaths, not the IDF. They are attempting to stop rockets blowing their cities and towns up.

Survival of the fittest my friends, pure and simple.

If the Arab nations clamped down on these islamic radicals, things like this wouldn't happen.

the eu is in Essence powerless to react
1 it don't have its owen Conenatal army
2.its in the pay of the u.s.a for the large part
3. the eu is litle more than a paper tigar
4 it can olny ever sugest santions agaist the waring factions and in an oil rich region like the milde east santions are largely pointless

some may point out that there are nato troops ready but the u.s.a would probley vote anny involement of that orgainzation

as for the un in real life like its leuage of nations counter part it is strongley reliant on mebmer nations for anny armed force it may have
so the paper tigar theroy could also apply to that organstion
i say we would be far more safer without relegion in its verirous forms
the federion in startrek seems to mange well eough without a majoir relegion

All this talk about blacks and Africa is making me think about those RACIST Israelis and how they are the only people in the world who ever went into Africa and brought blacks out of there and into Israel to live freely and not in shackles and chains. Operation Solomon, etc...way to go Israel!

the eu is in Essence powerless to react
It's just reacted...
1 it don't have its owen Conenatal army
Correct, but it does have an aid fund, which is being used.
2.its in the pay of the u.s.a for the large part
The EU is more than ready to give the US the proverbial finger, as has been shown here and at the UN.
3. the eu is litle more than a paper tigar
The kind of paper tiger that can afford to give €50 million and knows that the US can't do a bloody thing against it.
4 it can olny ever sugest santions agaist the waring factions and in an oil rich region like the milde east santions are largely pointless
Israel is of no use economically to the EU. We can put sanctions on it if we like, the problem is the US fucking meddling as they do.
some may point out that there are nato troops ready but the u.s.a would probley vote anny involement of that orgainzation
No only that, it's pretty irritatingly veto-ing anything that goes against Israel. Bush needs to stop worrying about the Jewish vote back home and re-assess what is actually right in this situation.
as for the un in real life like its leuage of nations counter part it is strongley reliant on mebmer nations for anny armed force it may have
so the paper tigar theroy could also apply to that organstion
On the other hand, the US wasn't in the LoN, which is why it would be more effective at tackling Israel, all things considered.

I don't think that anyone is actually going to invade Israel, but the US stopping people condemning Israel is just abusing their power.
i say we would be far more safer without relegion in its verirous forms
the federion in startrek seems to mange well eough without a majoir relegion
That kind of ruined the whole of your point, there.

"In Star Trek it works, so it has to work in real life".

"Oh no! They're firing Katushyas again! Use the deflector shield!"

i don't Favour religions as they seem to be the cause of most conflicts than the solution how do we no the aid gets to the general populance after all most aid in Africa tends to end up in goverment hands

No denying that, but, heres my question, was it poorer and more dangerous than the rest of the African countries?

No doubt South Africa was bad to blacks, but did blacks live better there than just about everywhere else in Africa?

Now nobody lives well (except a tiny few), its dangerous for everyone, the government is crap, the economy is crap, the murder rate is sky high, the AIDs rate is sky high....ect.

You cannot seriously tell me South Africa wasnt a better nation back then.

Ah, but people would rather have a crappy government of their own, than a good foreign government. -- Ghandi (paraphrased;) )

Ah, I see...so Whitey invented corruption, high murder and AIDs rates, did he?:rolleyes:

In South Africa, the country was developed with inequality an integral and desired part of society. This led to extreme poverty and poor education. And therefore to the problems associated with that - AIDs, drug abuse, violence, corruption and crime.

Considering this is not on any major news websites (and that includes both europe and North American)....

Considering this is not on any major news websites (and that includes both europe and North American)....
If you can get Euronews or BBC News 24 in the US, then watch them. It's what they're saying.

i don't Favour religions as they seem to be the cause of most conflicts than the solution how do we no the aid gets to the general populance after all most aid in Africa tends to end up in goverment hands
The only cause of wars at all is resources or to get rid of impetuous young men, people can dress it up as religion if they like, but it's what they are.

If you can get Euronews or BBC News 24 in the US, then watch them. It's what they're saying.

Sorry but no I don't. I do read the Times online and there is no report of it there. Also, it wasn't on the reuters website either.

Sorry but no I don't. I do read the Times online and there is no report of it there. Also, it wasn't on the reuters website either.
Hmm well then I can't really comment on that, but it was definitely on BBC News 24 and Euronews.

I don't watch other news channels, so I can't really comment on what they're reporting, and I have no idea whether The Guardian was out in time for the message or not.

You realise that much of this aid may well not be given in wads of cash, but in crates of food etc?You mean like the Oil for Food program?

;)

When the government is Hamas, then they do equal each other. Israel is doing what any nation that was invaded would do.

Won't you be one of those who say "Don't blame us for being Americans, just blame Bush"? Just asking.