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I didn't see a thread for this match yet, so I figured I'd get it going. :) Predictions?

Personally, I see Portugal squeaking past the Dutch, 4-1. Poll coming.

I didn't see a thread for this match yet, so I figured I'd get it going. :) Predictions?

Personally, I see Portugal squeaking past the Dutch, 4-1. Poll coming.
Another of your outlandish predictions? :p

I can see this going to extra time and maybe penalties. 3-2 to either team AET, or Portugal to win on penalties.

Edit: Dutch/Portugal in OT?

Another of your outlandish predictions? :p


I dunno, I predicted Brazil would squeak by the Japs 4-1, and sure enough.. we'll see today.. Hope I can keep myself awake until gametime. :)

Edit: Dutch/Portugal in OT?

OT, overtime. PKs can count as overtime.

Portugal in OT.

I'm calling it right now, there will be a perpetual rain delay until 2014, at which point this World Cup will run concurrently with the 2014 World Cup.

Portugal by 1.

this game cant be drawn but there is an option on the poll???

I'm calling it right now, there will be a perpetual rain delay until 2014, at which point this World Cup will run concurrently with the 2014 World Cup.
What about the 2010 World Cup?

this game cant be drawn but there is an option on the poll???

It's been known to happen. Maybe not in recent soccer history, but still.

Holland 2 sneak it thn get hammered by england in QF

I am with Holland in Overtime/penalties. You know it's gonna happen!!

ha ha overtime!! u mean extra time

Netherlands by 1. Or more. Prolably more. But anyway, those Portugans are going down, and anyone who dares dispute this opinion is an anti-dutch flamer. :p

ha ha overtime!! u mean extra time

*Smiling to you, begins to move slightly*

*Runs out, jumps over the sofa, gets out through the window*

2-1 for the dutch :)

The Netherlands will win 3-2. I've been predicting that the Dutch and the Czechs would reach the semis; the Czechs have proved me wrong, but I'm counting on the Netherlands to prove me at least half-right. ;)

In the last 9 games between these sides, Portugal has lost once.

If we (the dutch) win this one, we'll also probably going to beat England/Ecuador :)

Past performance is not a guarantee for future success. :D

That's aimed at the comment about the Portugish having won, btw. :p

ha ha overtime!! u mean extra time

Extra-time or overtime, it means the samething.

Portugal in OT by 2.

Extra-time or overtime, it means the samething.

Yeah, but I'm already in the street, and it hurts, I live in a 5th floor.

Yeah, but I'm already in the street, and it hurts, I live in a 5th floor.

uhh oookkk!!

*takes the booz away*

We (the Dutch) Will win!


Here comes the rebirth of the golden age, beware of the lion!

We (the Dutch) Will win!


Here comes the rebirth of the golden age, beware of the lion!

*starts to sling shot stones at the lion*

Hey, be nice. It's only a supporter wearing one of our special orange lederhosen. (Which are kind of silly, but what the heck.)

Holland by one, then we beat England by one, Brasil by one and Germany by thirteen and then we are world champions.

well, something like that:p

We (the Dutch) Will win!


Here comes the rebirth of the golden age, beware of the lion!

I thought the English had the lion for a mascot, or did that come over with William of Orange, or something? :p

I'm going to be the last person on the planet, outside of Portugal, to believe in the promise and potential of the Portugal side. They haven't been impressive (much like England), but they are still my dark horse to win it all.

Potugal over Germany to win the World Cup.

What about the 2010 World Cup?

Still raining.

We're loading soccer teams up on an Ark at this point.

0 - 0 at full time. Holland win 4 -3 after extra time :eek:

(1 - 0 more likely)

Tricky, both sides haven't showed nice football so far but I hope that tonight we'll see a change. I think that Holland will win with 2-1 after 120 minutes of thrilling football...

Portugal 4-2! :D

The Dutch have not beaten Portugal in last 15 years.

Portugal 4-2! :D

The Dutch have not beaten Portugal in last 15 years.
And Argentina never beats us in regular time....wait, that doesn't help us:eek:

uhm, we never lose a record match:D

0 - 0 at full time. Holland win 4 -3 after extra time :eek:

If you make it I'm gonna be your best friend and you'll tell me who should I bet money for. I'd like Portugal to pass, but it will be The Netherlands on penalties...

I thought the English had the lion for a mascot, or did that come over with William of Orange, or something? :p
The lion has been replaced as our mascot by Theo Walcott.

Portugal 4-2! :D

The Dutch have not beaten Portugal in last 15 years.

the exact reason why holland will win (in OT)

A good game so far. Both sides have had their chances.

If we (the dutch) win this one, we'll also probably going to beat England/Ecuador :)
I'd have you down as a footballing prediction genius, if it weren't for the fact that an orange horse could predict that. I mean, van Nistelrooy seems to be a fairly intelligent old horse.

3 yellows already? Portugal got a yellow for something. Arguing with the ref? No-no.

I have the tv on mute and am listening to the radio commentary. The radio is about 2 seconds ahead of the tv. Mind you, my tv seems to be a couple of seconds ahead of the big screen in the stadium - there was a shot from behind the Portuguese keeper when he was taking a goal kick, and the picture on the screen showed him kicking the ball when it was already halfway up the pitch on my tv.

Goal for Portugal! Maniche (the troll) scores! 1-0.

GGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Portugal takes an early 1-0 lead in the 23rd minute of the match.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! Portugal!

Maniche scored right now!

And yet another yellow. This time against Portugal.

Cristiano Ronaldo finally injured, Simao prepared to join the match.

Whoah! Holland, about to draw!!

The ref is a retard for missing that obvious card foul. A break for portugal for that would've been his 2nd yellow and you know what that means soccer fans.

A foul against the Dutch.

The ref is a retard for missing that obvious card foul. A break for portugal for that would've been his 2nd yellow and you know what that means soccer fans.
It means you're just one more yellow away from being sent off by Graham Poll.

Great save by Van der Sar! I don't see the Dutch coming back from 2-0 - they don't seem to be creating any great chances.

It means you're just one more yellow away from being sent off by Graham Poll.

Or, if you play for Arsenal, twenty fouls....:D

Costinha's out! Red Card! Portugal playing with 10!

Portugal's #6 is done for the day as he receives his 2nd yellow card (finally) and is gone.

If Portugal advances, he'll miss the next match.

Costinha's off! Another yellow for a handball. Totally unnecessary for him to use his hand for that. If Portugal lose this now, they know exactly who to blame.

Or, if you play for Arsenal, twenty fouls....:D
:confused: Eh? Since when did referees have a reputation for leniency towards Arsenal players?

And that's it. We are at the half with Portugal up 1-0.

Half time. Maniche's goal gives Portugal a slight advantage, but Holland could quite easily take advantage of their one man advantage following Costinha's two yellows.

Man, what a rather nasty game. Or at least a couple pretty nasty players.

:confused: Eh? Since when did referees have a reputation for leniency towards Arsenal players?

Graham Poll? Mr. Don't worry Thierry, it's only an illegal freekick? Mr. I'll believe you Patrick?

Graham Poll? Mr. Don't worry Thierry, it's only an illegal freekick? Mr. I'll believe you Patrick?
Nah, Graham Poll's just a crap referee. He makes poor decisions that benefit every team. Henry's freekicks are never illegal - if the referee doesn't tell him he has to wait for the whistle, he can take them whenever the hell he likes.

Nah, Graham Poll's just a crap referee. He makes poor decisions that benefit every team. Henry's freekicks are never illegal - if the referee doesn't tell him he has to wait for the whistle, he can take them whenever the hell he likes.

I juts don't like him really, he thinks too much of himself.

As an aside to this match - if Portugal win, they'll be playing England in the quarter final. England might be playing crap right now, but Portugal will be missing Costinha and Cristiano Ronaldo at the very least. England might actually have a chance against them.

I juts don't like him really, he thinks too much of himself.
All referees do. At least he's not Uriah Rennie.

All referees do. At least he's not Uriah Rennie.

Who was the ref that Keane chased around Old Trafford? I liked him.;)

Who was the ref that Keane chased around Old Trafford? I liked him.;)
Maybe you should ask if there was a ref Keane didn't chase around Old Trafford. :p

Maybe you should ask if there was a ref Keane didn't chase around Old Trafford. :p

erm...... not too sure on that one actually:D

Cocu hits the underside of the bar and the ball goes clear! Unmarked in the middle of the box, plenty of time, he was unfortunate to not score.

Another yellow on Portugal and the Dutch have come alive.

This is kind of off topic but correct me if I'm wrong to believe that these two countries are still at war?

This is kind of off topic but correct me if I'm wrong to believe that these two countries are still at war?

I don't think they are at war.

This is kind of off topic but correct me if I'm wrong to believe that these two countries are still at war?

I don't know. I believe that Portugal remains our oldest ally however, and that Berwick upon Tweed only signed a peace settlement in regard to the Crimean war in the 1960's.

This is kind of off topic but correct me if I'm wrong to believe that these two countries are still at war?
Doesn't say anything about it on the CIA World Factbook. They're in dispute with Spain over Olivenza, but that's it.

I don't know. I believe that Portugal remains our oldest ally however, and that Berwick upon Tweed only signed a peace settlement in regard to the Crimean war in the 1960's.
They do indeed - it's the oldest still existing alliance in world politics.

They do indeed - it's the oldest still existing alliance in world politics.

QI perhaps?:p

I'm sorry, just doing some random Wikipedia surfing. The article says Portugal and The Netherlands apparently declared war upon each other in 1567 and a peace treaty was never signed. I know this is pretty irrelavent, but still interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war

Yellow on the Dutch. and on Portugal.

Lots of cards today... not exactly news for this WC though.

Portugal in Extra Time.

Holy shit, what's going on there? This is crazy.

Holy shit, what's going on there? This is crazy.

Yes it is crazy.

Looks like POR-Ned are trying to imitate the USA-ITA game... the colors are even similar! :p

Who got sent off for the Dutch?

Fuck Luis Figo. Diving twat.

Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!!! :D

Not sure I kept up with yellow/red cards there. BBC Sport says there have been 5 yellows and 1 red for Portugal, and 4 yellows and 1 red for Holland. Did nothing come out of that ruckus on the touchline?

Who got sent off for the Dutch?
Boulharouz, or however it's spelt.

Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!!! :D

Not sure I kept up with yellow/red cards there. BBC Sport says there have been 5 yellows and 1 red for Portugal, and 4 yellows and 1 red for Holland. Did nothing come out of that ruckus on the touchline?

I'm still wondering who got sent off for the Dutch.

Boulharouz, or however it's spelt.

Ah! Thanks :)

According to the BBC website, there have only been 14 fouls in the match - 6 committed by Portugal and 8 by Holland. So Portugal have 5 yellows for 6 fouls. Card happy, ref?

According to the BBC website, there have only been 14 fouls in the match - 6 committed by Portugal and 8 by Holland. So Portugal have 5 yellows for 6 fouls. Card happy, ref?

Officious moron?

You do miss the Premiership at times no?

Fight!!!!!

Really going to kick off now...

Too right Portugal and Netherlands are still at war!

After the yellow on Deco.

What's next - fist fights?

Yellow for Deco for the foul, yellow for Sneijder for pushing over Portuguese player. Also a yellow for van der Vaart, for something I'm not sure of.

What's next - fist fights?

I wanna see that :D

Woah, I thought this was soccer, not hockey?

What's next - fist fights?
We can but hope. There's 20 minutes left. Hopefully Holland will equalise and take it to extra time.

Yellow for Ricardo for time wasting.

And yet another yellow on Portugal.

This is getting rediculous.

And another yellow!

Yet another Portuguese yellow - Nuno Valente this time.

Honestly, I would have loved to get tickets for *any* game of this world cup - but seriously, if I had paid a hundred Euros for this, I'd be pissed.

If I want to see a bar fight, I'll go into a bar. Lots cheaper, plus I can get drunk.

Sheesh.

We can but hope. There's 20 minutes left. Hopefully Holland will equalise and take it to extra time.

Yellow for Ricardo for time wasting.

No yellow on Ricardo.

Deco has been sent off.

Second yellow for Deco! He's off!

And Deco is out of there!

Have we hit the record for yellows in a World Cup game yet?

Sure, why not play handball for a change? All that soccer gets tiring after a while.

14 cards so far this game... twelve yellows, and then two yellows that made reds. Wow.

EDIT: Make that 15, a 3 double-yellow-reds.

No yellow on Ricardo.
Oh...I thought that's what the guy on the radio said. My apologies.

BBC website has him listed as having received a yellow.

And Deco is out of there!

Have we hit the record for yellows in a World Cup game yet?

was that 15? or was that 16?

ANARCHY!
ANARCHY!

was that 15? or was that 16?

17 IIRC

That would be 15 yellows. The record is 16.

was that 15? or was that 16?

15.

Ricardo is hurt.

The ref is a moron, quite simply.

Deco and Costinha off, Cristiano Ronaldo injured...will England fancy their chances against a Portuguese team with those players missing?

That would be 15 yellows. The record is 16.

15 yellows, 3 reds in this game.
COME ON .. hit me for another CARD !

This game is a mess, and the Dutch have the advantage.

I hope they checked the players for weapons before they came on the pitch. Things could get nasty oherwise.

Ricardo is hurt.
Poor baby...:p

I do hope we get this ref for either a Germany/ England or Argentina/ Brazil final:D

When the authorities checked for Hooligans, they obviously forgot the players.

When the authorities checked for Hooligans, they obviously forgot the players.

LOL.

I wonder if the players will exchange shirts at the end of the match.

I wonder if the players will exchange shirts at the end of the match.
Nah, the managers will probably tell them not to, just like that England - Argentina game whenever it was.

Nah, the managers will probably tell them not to, just like that England - Argentina game whenever it was.

Scolari, Deco and Boularhouz should walk up and slap the ref..... with a fish.

Strange but true... according to the FIFA game thingy, there have been fewer than 25 fouls total in this game, despite the cards. I wonder if they're not counting carded fouls?

Strange but true... according to the FIFA game thingy, there have been fewer than 25 fouls total in this game, despite the cards. I wonder if they're not counting carded fouls?
No - some of the yellows have been for time wasting, and several were given in the various ruckuses, so they won't be counted as fouls. I reckon only 7 or 8 yellows have been given as a result of fouls.

And another red !

Another double yellow!

9 against 9.

This is insane.

Yellow card = red and that is the 16th yellow of the match.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, Another one bites the dust!

Van Bronckhorst off for a second yellow card. 16 yellows in total.

I wonder if the players will exchange shirts at the end of the match.
LOL. :p

Another double yellow for red... what the heck.

Oh my god. Bronckhorst just got sent off. This is gotta be a record... Well, we won...A phyrric victory at it's best. Damn ref...FINISH THE GAME ALREADY!!!

Well portugal survived this idiotic and crazy game 1-0.

Portugal wins.


I don't even known what to say. I've never seen anything like this.

Game over - 2-2!!!!

Oh, wait, no, sorry. 1-0 to Portugal!

So England meet Portugal reserves in the quarter-finals. Hmm ... there are some matches when you wish Vinney Jones was still playing, and English.

...And with the final score being Portugal 1 - Netherlands 0, England wins their second match in one day. :rolleyes:

One of the guys on the radio just said "If you're not a fan of Portugal, and you're not a fan of Holland, you'll be watching this laughing. You'll wish it had gone to extra time - we could have ended up with seven against seven!"

I just don't know how to describe this.. A record of red cards and yellow cards.. We've written history, just not in any good way. :( :( :(

Anyone else just lost all respect for Portugal, Scolari and hairbands?

Anyone else just lost all respect for Portugal, Scolari and hairbands?
Shit no.. I've gained respect for them. Why on earth would I have lost it? They deserved to win..

Anyone else just lost all respect for Portugal, Scolari and hairbands?

ME! Personally, I wish the Portugese a one way ticket to hell. They wre playing a very dirty game.

GO ENGLAND!!! :p

A crying van de Sar... this was supposed to be his glory match, since he now is the Dutch player with the most internationals on his name.

One of the guys on the radio just said "If you're not a fan of Portugal, and you're not a fan of Holland, you'll be watching this laughing. You'll wish it had gone to extra time - we could have ended up with seven against seven!"
Exactly. This was the most hilarious game ever. So many, many dives. ESPN showed a shot of a Dutch player, who tried to slide into the goal, but when he missed he grabbed his leg and shouted. Then he looked at where the ball is and got up.

One of the guys on the radio just said "If you're not a fan of Portugal, and you're not a fan of Holland, you'll be watching this laughing. You'll wish it had gone to extra time - we could have ended up with seven against seven!"
:p

Anyone else just lost all respect for Portugal, Scolari and hairbands? Did anyone ever have respect for hairbands? o.O Not even my beloved Frings could make me respect his ratty hairband. :p

British TV is saying 25 fouls, including the 16 yellows. WTF?

Shit no.. I've gained respect for them. Why on earth would I have lost it? They deserved to win..

You are aware that almost every injury was faked? They even played back one of those and everyone could see the portugese wasn't even touched and just dropped to the ground acting as if he got beaten up. And the portugese nearly started a fight on the field. Also, when one of em came in collision with van der sar near the end. He gave this extra little kick in van der sar's face. Bloody assholes.

:p

Did anyone ever have respect for hairbands? o.O Not even my beloved Frings could make me respect his ratty hairband. :p

Euw, Frings!:p

ME! Personally, I wish the Portugese a one way ticket to hell. They wre playing a very dirty game.

GO ENGLAND!!! :p
England could have it very easy in the quarter-final. Deco and Costinha missing, and Figo could be banned if FIFA take a proper look at the footage of him headbutting whichever Dutch player it was. Also, Ronaldo might miss the next match through injury.

You are aware that almost every injury was faked? They even played back one of those and everyone could see the portugese wasn't even touched and just dropped to the ground acting as if he got beaten up. And the portugese nearly started a fight on the field. Also, when one of em came in collision with van der sar near the end. He gave this extra little kick in van der sar's face. Bloody assholes.

Amen!

Boulharouz, or however it's spelt.khalid Al-Boulahrouz
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=khalid+Nederlands&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2&x=wrt

You are aware that almost every injury was faked? They even played back one of those and everyone could see the portugese wasn't even touched and just dropped to the ground acting as if he got beaten up. And the portugese nearly started a fight on the field. Also, when one of em came in collision with van der sar near the end. He gave this extra little kick in van der sar's face. Bloody assholes.
Hey.. 1-0 right?

Thank you.

British TV is saying 25 fouls, including the 16 yellows. WTF?
Some yellows were for time wasting or for violent conduct when play was stopped, so they won't be counted as fouls.

ME! Personally, I wish the Portugese a one way ticket to hell. They wre playing a very dirty game.

GO ENGLAND!!! :p

Wouldn't you just love to see Figo's nose broken by Terry?

British TV is saying 25 fouls, including the 16 yellows. WTF is going on?http://bonusweb.idnes.cz/obrazek/sfex3ps2_1m.jpg

Some yellows were for time wasting or for violent conduct when play was stopped, so they won't be counted as fouls.
Even so, that was a very high ratio of cards to fouls.

Dude, what was with all the carding?

Wouldn't you just love to see Figo's nose broken by Terry?

O yeah! I would personally kiss Terry's feet every morning when he wakes up for a year if he does that ;)

http://bonusweb.idnes.cz/obrazek/sfex3ps2_1m.jpg
Well yes, but where's the referee?

The thing is, Portugal won.

If they had lost, it would have been different. But they played dirty and won. Deserved the win.

I invite everyone here to drop by my poll and discuss the carding there...

Euw, Frings!:p
Hey, you don't want me to dig out my pretty pics of Frings again (all two of them :p), do you?

Exactly. This was the most hilarious game ever. So many, many dives. ESPN showed a shot of a Dutch player, who tried to slide into the goal, but when he missed he grabbed his leg and shouted. Then he looked at where the ball is and got up.

I only watched the last fifteen minutes, but I really wish I'd watched the whole things. Seems to have been quite a memorable match.

Deserved the win.
They deserve a lot of things, but not to win.

Wow. The dirtiest game I've seen so far.

Even so, that was a very high ratio of cards to fouls.
Hmmm...maybe a bit. I think at least two yellows were given for time wasting, and 3 or 4 in the mass brawls, so there were 10 or 11 for fouls. It was a dirty game with some nasty fouls - yes, the referee didn't help, but many of those yellows were deserved.

As "dirty" as we were, the Dutch were no better. Frankly, we deserved eachother. We were lucky.

The thing is, Portugal won.

If they had lost, it would have been different. But they played dirty and won. Deserved the win.
Yeah, but in my opinion the dirt started with Boulahrouz' karate kick that didn't get a red.

It kind of seemed like a free-for-all after that.

They deserve a lot of things, but not to win.
The Netherlands had plenty of chances! Around 20 shots on goal. The fact they couldn't convert any, and Portugal could, shows that they deserved to win. Football is about scoring goals. Portugal did.. Netherlands did not.

As "dirty" as we were, the Dutch were no better. Frankly, we deserved eachother. We were lucky.
Quoted for truth.

Dude, what was with all the carding?http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/gba/03/0329_-_super_street_fighter_ii_turbo_revival_(u)_60.png

http://www.vgmuseum.com/images/gba/03/0329_-_super_street_fighter_ii_turbo_revival_(u)_60.png

ROLF! :D

Yeah, but in my opinion the dirt started with Boulahrouz' karate kick that didn't get a red.

It kind of seemed like a free-for-all after that.
Yeah, that "tackle" on Ronaldo that went unpunished meant that the players thought they could get away with anything. Then it just got silly.

Hey, you don't want me to dig out my pretty pics of Frings again (all two of them :p), do you?

Nah. Despite my being a bloke, and hetero, oddly German footballers don't excite me. Can't think why.....:D

The Netherlands had plenty of chances! Around 20 shots on goal. The fact they couldn't convert any, and Portugal could, shows that they deserved to win. Football is about scoring goals. Portugal did.. Netherlands did not.

The Netherlands did not play well. The reffing didn't help, but at the end, they had plenty of opportunities, but they just launched the ball in, and then of course lost it.

The Netherlands had plenty of chances! Around 20 shots on goal. The fact they couldn't convert any, and Portugal could, shows that they deserved to win. Football is about scoring goals. Portugal did.. Netherlands did not.
No you're right. They did not win. But Portugal was very lucky with that one goal. If that was a miss, they probably would have lost. That however, didnt happen. Still, i can't imagine that they feel proud about the victory of tonight. They played really dirty.

And so began the Dutch-Portugese Wars of 2007.

I wanted more cards for the portugese so it gave England a better chance of winning Saturday!! This is the 3rd time we will have faced Scolari in a Q/F so it must be 3rd time lucky. Come on England!!!!

And so began the Dutch-Portugese Wars of 2007. :p :D
We still have the Dutch-German war, can't have another. Will never beat that.

And so began the Dutch-Portugese Wars of 2007.

Officially they still ARE at war, and have been since 1567.

ROLF! :D
and I repost thiz one for you.

British TV is saying 25 fouls, including the 16 yellows. WTF is going on?http://bonusweb.idnes.cz/obrazek/sfex3ps2_1m.jpg

No you're right. They did not win. But Portugal was very lucky with that one goal. If that was a miss, they probably would have lost. That however, didnt happen. Still, i can't imagine that they feel proud about the victory of tonight. They played really dirty.
I would be extremely proud. Into the last 8. Good on them.

I wanted more cards for the portugese so it gave England a better chance of winning Saturday!! This is the 3rd time we will have faced Scolari in a Q/F so it must be 3rd time lucky. Come on England!!!!
So...to nick Alan Green's brilliant joke...if Scolari beats Sven for the third straight time...does he get to keep him? :D

:p :D
We still have the Dutch-German war, can't have another. Will never beat that.
True. :p

The Netherlands did not play well. The reffing didn't help, but at the end, they had plenty of opportunities, but they just launched the ball in, and then of course lost it.
Exactly and thats why Portugal deserved to win. They took their chance like any good football team should.

I would be extremely proud. Into the last 8. Good on them.

Its difficult. As a football fan they revulse me, however I must confess if it were England I would raise no objections.

World record number of cards. I am really frustrated and annoyed. The Dutch played much better and should have won. In my opinion the Portuguese didn't deserve to win. They didn't really do anything the whole second half. :headbang: Damn i'm annoyed.

Hmmm...maybe a bit. I think at least two yellows were given for time wasting, and 3 or 4 in the mass brawls, so there were 10 or 11 for fouls. It was a dirty game with some nasty fouls - yes, the referee didn't help, but many of those yellows were deserved.
Though they did make for a febrile atmosphere that ensured a game where the pace never dropped.

Its difficult. As a football fan they revulse me, however I must confess if it were England I would raise no objections.
I don't like/dislike any football team. I'm a rugby man myself. All I can say is they won the game. They played dirty but it's not as if the Netherlands were squeaky clean.

World record number of cards. I am really frustrated and annoyed. The Dutch played much better and should have won. In my opinion the Portuguese didn't deserve to win. They didn't really do anything the whole second half. :headbang: Damn i'm annoyed.
You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?

The Portuguese effort reminded me a lot of the English rugby team. They don't really play the game properly, that is, attacking and scoring, but rather take the few chances they have and always manage to win even though the other team plays much better and deserves to win.

I don't like/dislike any football team. I'm a rugby man myself. All I can say is they won the game. They played dirty but it's not as if the Netherlands were squeaky clean.

No, but Portugal crossed a lot of lines tonight.

You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?

They were unlucky, seriously. They played much better than Portugal. And overall i hated this game, this wasnt football, this was wrestling.
Im not even sure if im suposed to be happy for Portugal winning.

You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?
Do you only play better if you've scored a goal? Is making a goal a definition of playing better? Not in my opinion.

Im not even sure if im suposed to be happy for Portugal winning.
Yeah, that kind of sucks. I was rooting for Portugal, but this was just ridiculous (from both sides, I daresay).

No, but Portugal crossed a lot of lines tonight.
Again.. 'and the Dutch didn't'? Their clear targeting of C. Ronaldo wasn't pretty to watch.

Its difficult. As a football fan they revulse me, however I must confess if it were England I would raise no objections.

There was a quote from Figo, some time ago, saying that the English clubs in Europe don't do very well as their players don't take advantage of the refs. - or something to that effect. The Portuguese, as a team, should be very heavily fined by FIFA for bringing the game into disrepute, and be excluded from the tournament. The theatrics and faking was a disgrace to football.

Louis Filipe Scolari, o que é que voce fez, seu bobalhão? Foi um desgraça.

You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?

Simple. The Potuguese took their chance, and even though the Dutch created a lot more chances, they didn't take them. The game easily could have ended 3-1 with a Dutch win, but not the other way around. Just because a team wins doesn't mean it deserves to because it plays better. I can't believe Van Basten didn't put Van Nistelrooy on. Kuyt should have been replaced with him after about 70 minutes.

You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?

Scum like Chelsea play only for results. The beautiful game is not solely about winning.

Do you only play better if you've scored a goal? Is making a goal a definition of playing better? Not in my opinion.
Scoring a goal is showing you have the ability to convert your chances. It's what football is about. It's the objective of football.

I can't believe Van Basten didn't put Van Nistelrooy on. Kuyt should have been replaced with him after about 70 minutes.
I do have to agree there. That could well have changed the game.

Again.. 'and the Dutch didn't'? Their clear targeting of C. Ronaldo wasn't pretty to watch.

Indeed, but it is a regular occurance, and they didn't dive every time the ref was nearby, did they?

You say the Dutch played better. Why then, didn't they score a goal but Portugal did?WC Fact # 14: The best team does win.. sometimes.

Scum like Chelsea play only for results. The beautiful game is not solely about winning.

Sure - just because they win with style and without foul play, you call them scum. Who do you support by the way? I hope it is not Man U. after that comment.

The recent history between the 2 teams meant it would be highly charged, but the targeting of C. Ronaldo was cynical.

Holland lived by the sword and died by it- blame Van Basten for not bringing on Van Nistelrooij.

Deco should have been sent off for his first card, but the poor sportsmanship from the Dutch in not giving the ball back after Portugal had kicked it out, underlines their attitude towards the game.

Although, it was hilarious as the camera zoomed in on the 'bold corner' where Deco and Van Bronck. were sitting side by side, having a chat and laugh. :D

Dutch didn't deserve to win (when football was actually being played), if they did, they would have scored. *shrug*

Scum like Chelsea play only for results. The beautiful game is not solely about winning.
But in a World Cup.. What do you want to do? You want to win. The Dutch can say 'we played better' all they want. But Portugal will still go through to the last 8.

Scoring a goal is showing you have the ability to convert your chances. It's what football is about. It's the objective of football.

Yes but anyone can score a goal. All it really takes is a bad mistake by the goalie. It doesn't speak at all about how good or bad a team is. That is determined by how the team plays over the whole game. In this case the Dutch played much better.

Even teams that play beautiful football have players that take advantage - for example Pires for Arsenal. Some players want to win enough to attempt to do so dishonestly. So long as football is played, these players will be around. Shit happens, get used to it.

Indeed, but it is a regular occurance, and they didn't dive every time the ref was nearby, did they?
Everybody knows diving is part of football these days. I hate it, but it's just how it goes.

Yes but anyone can score a goal. All it really takes is a bad mistake by the goalie. It doesn't speak at all about how good or bad a team is. That is determined by how the team plays over the whole game. In this case the Dutch played much better.
But there wasn't a bad mistake by the goalie..

Even teams that play beautiful football have players that take advantage - for example Pires for Arsenal. Some players want to win enough to attempt to do so dishonestly. So long as football is played, these players will be around. Shit happens, get used to it.

Yeah, I suppose I am a bit of a hypocrit, given how much I appreciated Rooney's diving against Arsenal.

Incidentally, Arsenal might just be the most attractive team on the planet.

They were unlucky, seriously. They played much better than Portugal. And overall i hated this game, this wasnt football, this was wrestling.
Im not even sure if im suposed to be happy for Portugal winning.


Well, yeah, it was pretty much a fight, but still, we won. That's it. It's not a victory to be proud of, but it's surely a victory to be happy about. Because it's a victory. Maybe we didn't deserve to win, if you look only at the method with which we won, but both teams deserved to win, for it was a hard fought game.Literally. Again, Portugal got lucky.

Lighten up, the game with England is sure to be a better one....i hope.

Yes but anyone can score a goal. All it really takes is a bad mistake by the goalie. It doesn't speak at all about how good or bad a team is. That is determined by how the team plays over the whole game. In this case the Dutch played much better.

The appropiate term to use would be "less bad".

The recent history between the 2 teams meant it would be highly charged, but the targeting of C. Ronaldo was cynical.


Cristiano Ronaldo brought the targetting on himself by getting Van Bommel boked for nothing at the start of the game. The reaction of the Dutch was over the top, but CR was a cheating prat anyway. (I am a neutral in regard to Holland vs Portugal - the comment above is based purely on what I saw happen, I have no agenda, or axe to grind here.)

But there wasn't a bad mistake by the goalie..

How can one good shot by one player convince you automatically that his team played better the whole game?

Incidentally, Arsenal might just be the most attractive team on the planet.
Heh, my girlfriend would agree - she's taken a shine to Henry, Ljungberg and Fabregas.

Everybody knows diving is part of football these days. I hate it, but it's just how it goes.FIFA is corrupting this great sport.

The appropiate term to use would be "less bad".

Haha fair enough.

Heh, my girlfriend would agree - she's taken a shine to Henry, Ljungberg and Fabregas.

I mean the football. I took the missus to OT, and was then asked why I don't look like Ronaldo..... well miffed.:D

How can one good shot by one player convince you automatically that his team played better the whole game?Ecuador VS England ??

a) At the game: I think it was evenly matched, a fair score would be a tie, but the gods smiled at Portugal, so be it.

b) At the fouls: No one is innocent, both teams saw two men out for very good reasons (though one can argue that the referee was being too picky). Sure, the Portuguese are a bit more theatrical, but it was a Portuguese player that suffered a foul so rought he had to be replaced (Ronaldo), so no one can say "oh they are so bad", ahh shit. Its tactics, if you know football, you know smart players will try to win fouls. Its that simple.

Well, yeah, it was pretty much a fight, but still, we won. That's it. It's not a victory to be proud of, but it's surely a victory to be happy about. Because it's a victory. Maybe we didn't deserve to win, if you look only at the method with which we won, but both teams deserved to win, for it was a hard fought game.Literally. Again, Portugal got lucky.

Lighten up, the game with England is sure to be a better one....i hope.
I agree with this.

I'm not sure 'bout those English blokes. Did't liked there games this afternoon. They can do much better.

Cristiano Ronaldo brought the targetting on himself by getting Van Bommel boked for nothing at the start of the game. The reaction of the Dutch was over the top, but CR was a cheating prat anyway. (I am a neutral in regard to Holland vs Portugal - the comment above is based purely on what I saw happen, I have no agenda, or axe to grind here.)

I fail to see how getting speared in the thigh by a high boot was anything other than a reckless challenge by a top class professional who is paid to know better... Unfair and pointless, and deprived the game of one of the more interesting players...

Ecuador VS England ??

I didn't watch the game. England won, but Ecuador might still have deserved to win. I don't know, I can't say, I didn't see it.

Cristiano Ronaldo brought the targetting on himself by getting Van Bommel boked for nothing at the start of the game. The reaction of the Dutch was over the top, but CR was a cheating prat anyway. (I am a neutral in regard to Holland vs Portugal - the comment above is based purely on what I saw happen, I have no agenda, or axe to grind here.)
What??

God no.

I'm a neutral too but van Bommel CLEARLY clipped his ankles together with an outstretched foot from behind.

That was one of the few valid ones.

I mean the football. I took the missus to OT, and was then asked why I don't look like Ronaldo..... well miffed.:D
:p I knew what you meant. I'm an Arsenal fan, and I'm quite happy we play such great football. Success doesn't bother me so much - I have realistic expectations, and I know when Arsenal should win and when we shouldn't be surprised if we lose or are outplayed.

I fail to see how getting speared in the thigh by a high boot was anything other than a reckless challenge by a top class professional who is paid to know better... Unfair and pointless, and deprived the game of one of the more amusing players...

I am not referring to that incident. I admit that that was reckless, I said that the dutch overreacted. However it is the type of treatment CR brings on himself, with his diving the moment anyone tries to tackle him. If you are going to be booked anyway (as happened to Van Bommel - for nothing), you may as well make it worth while is the mindset he generates. It is not just CR who does this - Ronaldinho and Robinho of Brazil are just as guilty.

Whatever team was better or deserved to win. My biggest annoyment remains that there wasn't any playing of footbal in this match. This would have been more appropriate for wrestling or karate. I mean, what the hell. atleast 15 minutes had been completely wasted by checking injuries,quarrels and all those sort of things. Even twice a fight nearly erupted at the field. I think that even before the end time of the match had been reached, it should have been stopped by the referee, I mean, where the hell was football in this match?

:p I knew what you meant. I'm an Arsenal fan, and I'm quite happy we play such great football. Success doesn't bother me so much - I have realistic expectations, and I know when Arsenal should win and when we shouldn't be surprised if we lose or are outplayed.


I can understand that. A 1-0 win is nowhere near as pleasing as a 4-3 win or 3-3 draw.

What??

God no.

I'm a neutral too but van Bommel CLEARLY clipped his ankles together with an outstretched foot from behind.

That was one of the few valid ones.

I suggest you watch a reply carefully later then. You will see, if you open your eyes, that Van Bommel does not make any contact at all - none. CR had lost control of the ball and all he had left to do was fall over (as he does 75% of the time - but meh).

I am not referring to that incident. I admit that that was reckless, I said that the dutch overreacted. However it is the type of treatment CR brings on himself, with his diving the moment anyone tries to tackle him. If you are going to be booked anyway (as happened to Van Bommel - for nothing), you may as well make it worth while is the mindset he generates. It is not just CR who does this - Ronaldinho and Robinho of Brazil are just as guilty.

As well as a growing number of players. I have seen players in every team take crazy dives, which several years ago they wouldn't have. Sadly it is becoming more and more part of the game. I blame the Brazilians as they brought it into the game. Argentina and Brazil (other teams too) have been doing it for years, it is only more recently that the European teams have started using it so often. Probably just to try and make things even. If those other teams didn't do it then European teams wouldn't have started either. It is sad though, this world cup has clearly shown that it is ruining the game.

As well as a growing number of players. I have seen players in every team take crazy dives, which several years ago they wouldn't have. Sadly it is becoming more and more part of the game
(...)
this world cup has clearly shown that it is ruining the game.Diving is ruining the game.
Not to mention a bad example fer the younger generations..

Jose+10 (the kid in the Adidas TV ad) "My hero wins by cheating, I must learn the art of cheating.."

BTW this is not directed to any particular country.. they almost all Cheat and Whinne-to-the-refs.

I just don't know how to describe this.. A record of red cards and yellow cards.. We've written history, just not in any good way. :( :( :(

Actually the record for yellow cards was tied.

Wow. The dirtiest game I've seen so far.

Took the words right off of my fingertips.

Yeah, that "tackle" on Ronaldo that went unpunished meant that the players thought they could get away with anything. Then it just got silly.

Pretty much an accurate statement.

Before the game, I thought the Dutch would win 2-0. Seems I was quite a way off.

How can one good shot by one player convince you automatically that his team played better the whole game?
It convinces me that his team has the ability to finish chances and therefore deserve to win.

However, Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari defended Figo.

He said: "Jesus said we should turn the other cheek, unfortunately, Figo is not Jesus Christ."

Fantastic line. :D

Figo will play against England.

Fantastic line. :D

Figo will play against England.
Hmm... I'm not sure. FIFA could lay the smack down on his ass to make them look all big, tough and 'in control'.

Tis a great line though, heh.

Hmm... I'm not sure. FIFA could lay the smack down on his ass to make them look all big, tough and 'in control'.

Tis a great line though, heh.

Nope. Its been confirmed.


Luis Figo can play in Saturday's World Cup quarter-final against England after Fifa ruled out further action for a headbutt on Holland's Mark van Bommel.

The Portuguese skipper was booked and because referee Valentin Ivanov took action, Fifa will not intervene.

Fifa communications director Markus Siegler said: "He was sanctioned immediately by the referee at the time.

"The referee's report is being analysed but it is very unlikely anything will happen as he has been sanctione

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/portugal/5116722.stm

Sweet. Awesome. Makes game look more interesting.

Go Portugal :p

Ha ha Tulip eaters!

Nope. Its been confirmed.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/portugal/5116722.stm
Thats Bullshit, they didn't reverse thpenalty when that turk got sent off for chipping the ball in Rivaldos general direction and then hte bitch dived.

FIFA is corrupt!

Thats Bullshit, they didn't reverse thpenalty when that turk got sent off for chipping the ball in Rivaldos general direction and then hte bitch dived.

FIFA is corrupt!

Uh, what?

It was a corner kick, not a penalty and Rivaldo was later fined/sanctioned because of his terrible acting. As bad as that was, the point is is that becaue the ref took action against Figo, there is nothing the Discip. Committee from FIFA can do.

Rivaldo was not cautioned and it was because of video evidence that he was caught by the Committee later.

(Not because his acting was bad.... you know what I mean!)