NationStates Jolt Archive

no, nor do i care
Thanks for contributing, don't let the door hit your ass too hard.

I suppose that'd make you more of an internationalist than I am.

I'm a radical internationalist, and I've always been that way.

Thanks for contributing, don't let the door hit your ass too hard.
nah, i think im gonna stay for a bit

I was going to start a topic on this, but figured posting this here would be easier. I'm not a huge fan of chainmail, but this one struck my curiousity and I thought I might post it here in the hopes of verifying its validity. If it is correct, then perhaps these should be the laws adopted by the USA.

Be sure and read the last line.

If you migrate to this county, you must speak the native language

You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers allowed.

There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections; all government business will be conducted in our language.

Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.

Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.

Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT options will be restricted. You are not allowed waterfront property. That is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies, if you do you will be sent home.

If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down and sent straight to jail.

Harsh, you say? The above laws happen to be the immigration laws of MEXICO!

Yes, we should defintely adopt these laws and uphold them very strictly!

I was going to start a topic on this, but figured posting this here would be easier. I'm not a huge fan of chainmail, but this one struck my curiousity and I thought I might post it here in the hopes of verifying its validity. If it is correct, then perhaps these should be the laws adopted by the USA.

Because we should adopt Mexican policies on all things?

what about citizens of other nations?

Im not a USA citizen, I guess im illigal, off to the gallows for meI mean the illegal immigrants from Mexico, Cuba, and the other countries down there.translation: I mean the (brown) immigrants from Mexico, Cuba, and the other countries down there.

Because we should adopt Mexican policies on all things?

No. However, these are an established example of immigration laws already in use (if accurate) in Mexico. Illegal immigration seems to be a particularly strong issue in the US, especially where Mexicans are concerned. They are in an uproar because we are trying to establish a means of securing legitimate residence in the US.

Perhaps if they saw that what is illegal in their own country is illegal here as well, they might reconsider the manner in which they immigrate to our country.

Surely Mexico is not the only place to have laws similar to these in effect. Also, is the US the only place in the world to consider enforcing border security? Don't other countries have a means of enforcing legal citizenship as well?

Sry haven't read all the posts simply to many but here is my oppinion.
Illegal immigration is a crime, the only thing to do is send them back, rewarding them with citizenship is not the thing to do. Maybe they do have a problem with Mexicans being part of our economy, if its that big of a deal let them come here legally.

And frankly the U.S. is quite layed back on immigration if u stop and think about it, the fact that if ur born in the U.S. then ur a citizen is insane.

Sry haven't read all the posts simply to many but here is my oppinion.
Illegal immigration is a crime, the only thing to do is send them back, rewarding them with citizenship is not the thing to do. Maybe they do have a problem with Mexicans being part of our economy, if its that big of a deal let them come here legally.

And frankly the U.S. is quite layed back on immigration if u stop and think about it, the fact that if ur born in the U.S. then ur a citizen is insane.
Most countries work like that. We just happen to be one of the few first world countries that shares a border with a very impoverished borderline third world country, so very many people are very eager to have their children be citizens.
You know, masses yearning to be free and all that.

Despite what the corrupt capitalist class would have us believe the agriculture industry is NOT dependent on illegal immigrants for labor.

The cost of labor is one of, if not the, smallest portion of the costs associated with agriculture. The cost of farm products would go up slightly, and this would be MORE than made up for by the benefit of losing several million illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants rarely pay, if any, taxes. They drain the welfare system badly. They cost to the country as a whole is way more than they benefit. The only people who substantially benefit from illegal immigrants are the capitalist owners of those massive agro-businesses.


The money we save from getting rid of all those illegal immigrants could be used to subsidize the agricultural industry more than enough to make up for the cost, and it would STILL end up saving tax payers money.




Playing the race card works when you are dealing with the fundy redneck bible-thumpers, but it doesn't mean diddly squat to people in ANY way familiar with sociology or economics.

I don't want illegal immigrants in this country period. I don't care what color your skin is, your nation of origin, or what you are doing in this country right now. If you really are that beneficial to this nation, then you should be able to get in here legally.

That said I do think they should relax immigration quotas a bit, but I'm not about to sit here and be emotionally blackmailed into subsidizing the corrupt mexican government.

Mexico is NOT a poor nation. The PROBLEM with Mexico is that its top 1% make ludicrous amounts of money (even by corrupt american business standards), and this leaves the rest of the nation penniless.


So fix Mexico? Good plan. How do you do it? But in the mean time I think we should stop having to bear as much of the brunt of Mexico's problems.

NT

Sry haven't read all the posts simply to many but here is my oppinion.
Illegal immigration is a crime, the only thing to do is send them back, rewarding them with citizenship is not the thing to do. Maybe they do have a problem with Mexicans being part of our economy, if its that big of a deal let them come here legally.

And frankly the U.S. is quite layed back on immigration if u stop and think about it, the fact that if ur born in the U.S. then ur a citizen is insane.
Actually, the US has an extemly strict immigration policy.

ocean, i dont care if u call me a racist, and also, shut up

How Is This Crummy Thread Still Alive!!!!

I Come Back, After 12 Hours!!
And This Rubish Keeps On Going!!

How Is This Crummy Thread Still Alive!!!!

I Come Back, After 12 Hours!!
And This Rubish Keeps On Going!!
beats me, maybe everyone is interested in illegal immigrants so much that they will keep a thread goin for awhile

ths tread is xtremely interesting for all they involvevd stil in it so pleas do not try to understmate the skll of the starter brnging us the most interested issues so we can discus properly about the themes that are interestng to us if people is posting in it is because they find it interstngi so dnt say its crumy becuse it is not get a life an mature a bit ok?

ocean, i dont care if u call me a racist, and also, shut up
You know what: this is a damned debate forum. You can't tell me to shut up because I don't conform to your racist views.

illegal immigrants r becomming a big problem for the u.s. wat should the u.s. do in reaction to the immigrants commin to florida on rafts and the mexicans jumpin the fence to get into america?

o rly? j00 r teh suk!!one1!!! w00t

o rly? j00 r teh suk!!one1!!! w00t
do u wanna talk english?

do u wanna talk english?
He's making fun of your grammar.

He's making fun of your grammar.
his is worse then mine

No. However, these are an established example of immigration laws already in use (if accurate) in Mexico. Illegal immigration seems to be a particularly strong issue in the US, especially where Mexicans are concerned. They are in an uproar because we are trying to establish a means of securing legitimate residence in the US.

Perhaps if they saw that what is illegal in their own country is illegal here as well, they might reconsider the manner in which they immigrate to our country.

Why would they? And why does it matter what their country's laws are?

his is worse then mine

He's mocking you with it. He knows his grammar is horrible, that's the point.