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I wish I could agree, but I don't think I'd want to walk around with my top off. I'm disgusted when guys do it and I'd think it'd be really uncomfortable.

However, I understand what you're getting at and fully support a change.

So if a women walked around with her charlies hanging out and she gets leered at, it will be the leery guys fault - not hers for defying common sense. So she feels justified in her upset over unwanted (though not unsolicited) reactions.

In all this, how often have we heard women complain that a guy holds a conversation with her breasts and not her face? Well, if the person who started this thread got her way and had women parading their baps on the counter, she must deal with this consequence, or choose not to excercise her new-found right.

Whoa whoa whoa. I AM ready to accept the consequences. Not sure what gave you the idea that I had not thought this out completely. I have been thinking about it for decades.

Preface: I grew up in the 60's. I remember not being able to wear pants to public school. (Because men wear the pants!) I remember that even scooter skirts were suspect because they were both a skirt and shorts. I also remember the teacher taking a ruler and measuring hemlines. One inch above the knee was as short as it could go, or you got sent home for a wardrobe change. All in the name of decency.

Fast Forward to 2006: My daughter is growing up at the turn of the century. Just about anything goes at public school except head scarves (lest you be showin your "colors") and nipples.

This supports your assertion that decency is cultural. No argument there. My point is this: I have accepted the consequences of cultural change for 40 some odd years and have adapted my behavior accordingly. Men can too. That old argument you give is a re-hash of the old women's lib argument that used to go something like this: "If she wants to wear pants, then she ought to be ready to do the hard work." Yeah, well, we were ready. And now that we are out of dresses for day-to-day wear you guys have had to adapted to the longer wait for us to get undressed before you poke us. If you want to shag us nasty with our skirt up around our face, you will have to take us out somewhere nice first where we might, if we are so inclined, wear a dress.

I'm not saying that the argument has no merit, but it would probably be easier to just say that men with that little self-control shouldn't be allowed out it public. ;)

Or at least on a leash. LOL

Hmm, I don't know about that. Would you really want to sit on a chair, naked, that some other naked guy had been sitting on moments before? One day I watched an episode of The Simple Life (it was a slow TV night) where the girls worked at a nudest camp, and to deal with the problem of sitting where other naked guys have sat before everybody had to sit on a towel rather than directly on the upholstery. Maybe it's just me, but I think wearing shorts is easier than carrying around a towel.

Did you just identify yourself as one of those public toilet hovering gals that pee all over the seat and leave it for the next un-phobic gal to sit on? Regardless of the last time that person bathed, their buns (not to be confused with their starfish, which never touches the seat) are guarranteed to be cleaner than their hands that touched that doorknob you just gingerly grabbed without a second thought. Oy.

Or at least on a leash. LOL
Nah, just wall them off somewhere. They aren't really beneficial to the gene pool...or society.

In reaction to Janet Jackson's now famous Superbowl "wardrobe malfunction", President Bush signed into law a bill that increases the amount that the FCC can fine a broadcaster to $325,000 per incident.

What is the deal with a boob popping out? It's a boob! So what? Babies all over the world press their face up against one everyday. What makes a boob so "indecent"?

I would like to see bare chested women get the same treatment as bare chested men in this country. I want to mow the lawn with my top off. I wanna go topless at the pool. I want to see bare chested women on COPS.

More than all of that, I want people to stop teaching their kids that boobs are shocking. They are NOT shocking or indecent. What is indecent is a man, who can walk around with no shirt on any time he wants, signing a law increasing the fine for anyone who doesn't play along with this "dirty pillows", christian, double-standard agenda.

FFS! I'm mad!

( . )( . ) <---there. how's that for indecent???

Meaty Boobs! :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

They should be left hanging out the way it should be! Yessy!

Did you just identify yourself as one of those public toilet hovering gals that pee all over the seat and leave it for the next un-phobic gal to sit on? Regardless of the last time that person bathed, their buns (not to be confused with their starfish, which never touches the seat) are guarranteed to be cleaner than their hands that touched that doorknob you just gingerly grabbed without a second thought. Oy.

No, though I do sometimes cover the seat with those little paper covers, or toilet paper, if it seems like a poorly maintained bathroom. On a toilet you are mostly sitting on the back of your legs, and legs are pretty clean. However, I rarely touch the doorhandle, bathroom doorhandles are nasty. :)


Why do people sometimes smell their pants or underwear to tell if it is clean, or at least clean enough :rolleyes: to wear? Because sweat and . . . excretions do rub off onto your clothes. Without clothes that stuff WILL be transferred to whatever you are sitting on. It isn't just icky, there is a small health hazard as well. Viruses that cause things like herpes and genital warts can survive on surfaces for a couple hours, it is difficult to transfer a virus that way, but not impossible.

OMG A BOOB!


























http://my.opera.com/Nagaika/homes/blog/homer_beer.jpeg
Look at that boob, just look how indecent it is! That is why they must never be seen.

OMG A BOOB!


























http://my.opera.com/Nagaika/homes/blog/homer_beer.jpeg
Look at that boob, just look how indecent it is! That is why they must never be seen.
Do you need someone to post a picture of man-boobies?:p
Disclaimer: This has in no way been an offer of any kind to actually post man-booby pictures.

Do you need someone to post a picture of man-boobies?:p
Disclaimer: This has in no way been an offer of any kind to actually post man-booby pictures.


...aww, ok then... there goes THAT plan...

...aww, ok then... there goes THAT plan...
YOU could post it. I won't, but you may.;)

That isn't particularly miraculous. Uncommon, but not miraculous.
http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/miscarticles/milkmen.htmlthat is fucking creepy.

end of story.

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In reaction to Janet Jackson's now famous Superbowl "wardrobe malfunction", President Bush signed into law a bill that increases the amount that the FCC can fine a broadcaster to $325,000 per incident.

What is the deal with a boob popping out? It's a boob! So what? Babies all over the world press their face up against one everyday. What makes a boob so "indecent"?

I would like to see bare chested women get the same treatment as bare chested men in this country. I want to mow the lawn with my top off. I wanna go topless at the pool. I want to see bare chested women on COPS.

More than all of that, I want people to stop teaching their kids that boobs are shocking. They are NOT shocking or indecent. What is indecent is a man, who can walk around with no shirt on any time he wants, signing a law increasing the fine for anyone who doesn't play along with this "dirty pillows", christian, double-standard agenda.

FFS! I'm mad!

( . )( . ) <---there. how's that for indecent???
Heck, I'm a man, and all for gender equality. Women want to go around bare-chested? What do we care?

It's not like those children who see that will need psychological help to recover from the shock, or anything.

I would like to see bare chested women get the same treatment as bare chested men in this country. I want to mow the lawn with my top off. I wanna go topless at the pool. I want to see bare chested women on COPS.

More than all of that, I want people to stop teaching their kids that boobs are shocking. They are NOT shocking or indecent. What is indecent is a man, who can walk around with no shirt on any time he wants, signing a law increasing the fine for anyone who doesn't play along with this "dirty pillows", christian, double-standard agenda.


Paragraph 1: You know, I fully support you walking around with your knockers hanging out for me to oggle, stare at, and take pictures of...as long as you're not going to whine and complain when you can't get any man to look you in the eye (or when my pictures hit the net). Honestly, you think that's going to help the whole "women as objects" situation? You've got a wonderful piece of supple pink matter in your head, do try to use it.

Paragraph 2: I hardly think that Christianity is to blame. Not only is there no official antibooby (say it out loud, it's funny) Christian doctrine, but the Christians are far from the most oppressive on this issue. Go hang out in the middle east with your hooters fancy free, and see how you get treated. When you're being stoned to death by men who want their women covered from head to toe, all the time, maybe a lack of nudity on TV will seem somewhat...I dunno, what's the word...utterly and nonsensically trivial?

Paragraph 1: You know, I fully support you walking around with your knockers hanging out for me to oggle, stare at, and take pictures of...as long as you're not going to whine and complain when you can't get any man to look you in the eye (or when my pictures hit the net). Honestly, you think that's going to help the whole "women as objects" situation? You've got a wonderful piece of supple pink matter in your head, do try to use it.

Paragraph 2: I hardly think that Christianity is to blame. Not only is there no official antibooby (say it out loud, it's funny) Christian doctrine, but the Christians are far from the most oppressive on this issue. Go hang out in the middle east with your hooters fancy free, and see how you get treated. When you're being stoned to death by men who want their women covered from head to toe, all the time, maybe a lack of nudity on TV will seem somewhat...I dunno, what's the word...utterly and nonsensically trivial?

1. You realize that people used to make ths exact same argument about ankles. Do you find yourself distracted to the point of distress every time a woman where coulats (sp?)?

2. How does the policies of the middle-east have any bearing on American politics? It's not Muslims that make American policy. However, there has been a whole lot of American policy made by and influenced by Christians of one brand or another.