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Predicitions for Australia V Japan tonight.

I think Australia will win 2-1.

Mark Viduka to score the opener & John Aloisi to come off the bench to seal it for us.

Australia 1-0.

Japan 2-0. Based on nothing at all, except i remember the Asians did quite well at the last world cup.

Australia 2-0

No idea - that's what makes it so fun.

I'll be going for the Aussies, the question is though whether Japan can get over its problems after that Malta match.

I think it'll be a tight-fisted affair that one. Both sides will have an absolute panic of conceding early, and once one side scores, they'll probably all stay back and defend.

You fools, Japan will win! :)

Japan will win because you cannot intimidate them. So Australia's rugby skills won't have any effect.

More seriously I think the Japanese will be too fast for the Aussies and will end up winning a close one. 2-1 I guess. (However, for the OZ fans here, I have nearly a 100% record of being wrong.)

Japan will win because you cannot intimidate them. So Australia's rugby skills won't have any effect.

More seriously I think the Japanese will be too fast for the Aussies and will end up winning a close one. 2-1 I guess. (However, for the OZ fans here, I have nearly a 100% record of being wrong.)

And long may it continue too! ;)

I've made three right guesses so far. Let's go for a fourth:

Draw 2-2

Not much love there for the Socceroos, I'm disappointed. :(

It'll make it all the sweeter when we win! ;)

I'm going big

Australia 4-0

Oz drew with Holland
Japan Drew with Brazil
Kewell has been injured and Viduka pulled his calve.
Nakata has been off his game.

I say 2-1 Oz.
if you'd asked me last week i would have said 2-1 Oz but with more confidence.

I've made three right guesses so far. Let's go for a fourth:

Draw 2-2
I agree with the draw, but I'll say 1-1.

Japan will trounce them.

Go the Socceroos!

Kick-off's in just over two hours. Go the green & gold!

2:1 for Japan.

Go the Socceroos!

Kick-off's in just over two hours. Go the green & gold!
As I said before the World Cup, I don't think Australia will perform. I hope I'm not wrong, heh.

As I said before the World Cup, I don't think Australia will perform. I hope I'm not wrong, heh.

Wow, someone from the seventh state of Australia has decided to speak up.

Australia will beat Japan by 1.

It will be retaliation for WWII.

Especially the bombing of Darwin.

Wow, someone from the seventh state of Australia has decided to speak up.

Australia will beat Japan by 1.

It will be retaliation for WWII.

Especially the bombing of Darwin.
Oh dear. Don't even get me started.

Japan are struggling in the weather
Nakata pulled off
Injuries to their Wings.
Socceroo's Kewell is off (MAYBE, Guus Hiddink could be making a suprise)
Cahill is back

If both teams manages to play their best, the game should be very close.

Viduka main job isn't to score but to pass it to the midfielders to strike the ball although he may shoot...

As I said before the World Cup, I don't think Australia will perform. I hope I'm not wrong, heh.

I'm hopeful, rather than confident. Still can't wait to watch it though.

Wow, someone from the seventh state of Australia has decided to speak up.

Australia will beat Japan by 1.

It will be retaliation for WWII.

Especially the bombing of Darwin.
Absolutely! I'm sure every Australian that died in the Pacific theatre during World War 2 will be jumping out of their grave and proclaiming righteous vengeance after the culmination of this titanic battle involving a leather ball.

1-0 to Oz

New Zealand has a great football team. :rolleyes:

New Zealand has a great football team. :rolleyes:

When do they play?

Japan by a couple of goals. They just have too many quality players.

When do they play?

Never.

Shame on you for making a poll.

Shame on you for making a poll.

What's wrong with a poll? I thought it works quite well in the context.

What's wrong with a poll? I thought it works quite well in the context.
a poll destroys the whole pupose of the thread existing.

Australia can't win... Japanese people can fly and have laser eyes and stuff... they'll give us all seizures :) w00t w00t

Never.
Oh.... Is that why we were Brazil's (you know, the World Cup favourtites?) last warm up game?


Get your facts straight.

Australia can't win... Japanese people can fly and have laser eyes and stuff... they'll give us all seizures :) w00t w00t

Outstanding first post! :D

30min countdown, here's my prediction:

Australia vs. Japan 2:1

I'm really looking forward to this game, hope it'll be interesting and fair.

I'm actually rooting for the Blue Samurai but I don't believe they can win against the Socceroos. Mmh. Tough decision but there ya go.

*opens beer* (so it's 14:30 and 28°C - but it's Fußball)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/fussball.jpg

I wont be able to see the game because I'm at school, but I will give my prediction.

Australia: 1 Japan: 0

And there you have it, tell me how it goes.

Hmmm...Kewell is playing after all.

And Japan is up, 1-0!

What a freaky-assed goal.

And watching the replay, that goal should've been called back for keeper interference.

And watching the replay, that goal should've been called back for keeper interference.

Watch the reply again then. You will see that the Australian defender pushed the Japanese player into the keeper. The options were a penalty kick, or give the advantage to Japan. The referee did the right thing and gave the advantage. There was no foul by any Japanese player.

Watch the reply again then. You will see that the Australian defender pushed the Japanese player into the keeper. The options were a penalty kick, or give the advantage to Japan. The referee did the right thing and gave the advantage. There was no foul by any Japanese player.

Hmmm...didn't see a push, but I'll watch the replay again when they show it.

Hmmm...didn't see a push, but I'll watch the replay again when they show it.

A further issue is that a keeper does not have an inalienable right to be anywhere in his 6 yard box. If another player is there, the keeper can not just push his way through. The Australian keeper was awarded a foul from a corner early on, which simply was not a foul against him. If you get the chance to see the corner again, you will see that the Japanese player is stationary until the keeper pushes him. Difficult to commit a foul if you are not moving! (except offside that is)

Keepers are overprotected by referees now.

Keepers are overprotected by referees now.

Oh, I completely agree.

I have just seen a reply and Lucas Neill, no 2 for Australia clearly pushes the Japanese player as he is jumping for the ball. If he had not done so, then maybe Schwarzer would have been able to reach it, but maybe not. Schwarzer completely misjudged the flight of the ball.

I have just seen a reply and Lucas Neill, no 2 for Australia clearly pushes the Japanese player as he is jumping for the ball. If he had not done so, then maybe Schwarzer would have been able to reach it, but maybe not. Schwarzer completely misjudged the flight of the ball.

Yeah, saw it, too. Takahara got pushed into Schwarzer. You're right. Good call. And yeah, Schwarzer did misjudge it. Might've gone in either way.

And Japan is up, 1-0!

What a freaky-assed goal.

Freaky my butt. Referree missed a clear foul that he called down at the other end.

Go Australia.

Freaky my butt. Referree missed a clear foul that he called down at the other end.

Go Australia.

You fail at reading the thread (and watching replays). :p

C'arn the Aussies!

Under 15 minutes to go. Can Japan hold on?

Under 15 minutes to go. Can Japan hold on?

Apparently not. Australia's tied it!

You fail at reading the thread (and watching replays). :p

Even the commentators said it was a foul. I'll take their word over any of yours anyday.

YES. Good job Aussies. Keep it up :)

Cahill scores again to make it 2-1 Australia!

Aussie Aussie Aussie.

Australia scores again!

what a combeack!

2-1

this is indeed a good day for Australian Football

Even the commentators said it was a foul. I'll take their word over any of yours anyday.

Watch. The. Replay.

Again Australia

3-1!

And Australia scores again! What a comeback!

3-1 Australia!

Aussie Aussie Aussie. Oye oye oye.

Congrats To all Soccaroos..

First Win ever at the WC.
Heck first time you ever score.

Great. Australia gets another undeserving victory. But they have no chance against Brazil.

Joga Bonito, Ronaldinho!

Wow, what an amazing game. High Kudos to Japan! Great game, been a treat watching it.

Even the commentators said it was a foul. I'll take their word over any of yours anyday.LOL.. do you actually trust the TV "experts"?

Watch. The. Replay.

I did. I see you missed the elbow of a japanese player knocking into the goalkeeper who actually had the play on the ball till a Japanese player bumped up.

There were 2 Japanese players in the box. One knocked down the goalie and the other didn't. It was the other one that was shoved.

The Aussies don't deserve this win.

The Japanese goal was a little dodgy but the Australian defender pushed the Japanese guy into the Aussie goalie!

The aussie 1st goal was fine, no issue with that 1-1 is a deserved score.

Then the Japanese have a clear penatly denied, then to rub salt into the wound the man who should have been sent off as the last man scores.

The 3rd Aussie goal was scored by a man who should have been sent off half way throught he 2nd half for pushing a Japanese player over.

It makes me so mad when teams win because of players who should have been sent off.

And before anyone accuses me of being a Fanboy, I'm supporting England the whole way!

The Aussies don't deserve this win.

The Japanese goal was a little dodgy but the Australian defender pushed the Japanese guy into the Aussie goalie!

The aussie 1st goal was fine, no issue with that 1-1 is a deserved score.

Then the Japanese have a clear penatly denied, then to rub salt into the wound the man who should have been sent off as the last man scores.

The 3rd Aussie goal was scored by a man who should have been sent off half way throught he 2nd half for pushing a Japanese player over.

It makes me so mad when teams win because of players who should have been sent off.

And before anyone accuses me of being a Fanboy, I'm supporting England the whole way!

Damn straight. I'm looking forward to seeing Australia get murdered by Brazil.

Tim Cahill, I want your babies. You are a dead-set legend.

AUSTRALIA 3-1

Even the commentators said it was a foul. I'll take their word over any of yours anyday.
Do you always believe what you're being told instead of believing what you've seen with your own eyes?

Even the commentators said it was a foul. I'll take their word over any of yours anyday.

Commentators make more mistakes than referees. However, the point is moot now, given that Australia outlasted Japan.

If you still think that it was a foul, then it is mmore than offset by the absence of a second yellow being given to Cahill, or a penalty being awarded, for his hacking down of a Japanese player in his own penalty area before he scored his second goal.

I did. I see you missed the elbow of a japanese player knocking into the goalkeeper who actually had the play on the ball till a Japanese player bumped up.

There were 2 Japanese players in the box. One knocked down the goalie and the other didn't. It was the other one that was shoved.

You need glasses then. Because it was the player pushed by Neill that prevented Schwarzer from reaching the ball, if he was ever going to able to reach it anyway.

BRAZIL 4-0!

You know, knowing that Australia's going to be slaughtered by Brazil makes me feel a lot better about Brazil's inevitable victory.

Commentators make more mistakes than referees. However, the point is moot now, given that Australia outlasted Japan.

The referrees made a ton in this game. Sorry but I'll go with them over the people on this board.

Damn straight. I'm looking forward to seeing Australia get murdered by Brazil.

The only problem with that is that it is more likely to be Brazil being physically hacked to pieces by Australia. (But it will serve crybaby Ronaldinho right.)

Commentators make more mistakes than referees. However, the point is moot now, given that Australia outlasted Japan.

Outlasted? They got lucky. And the Australian commentator is calling Cahill's goal a goal of the tourny contender? Pfhhh. I can't wait for Australia to play a world class side and get shut up.

The referrees made a ton in this game. Sorry but I'll go with them over the people on this board.

Go watch the reply with an open mind. (If you are capable of that, which somehow I doubt.)

The only problem with that is that it is more likely to be Brazil being physically hacked to pieces by Australia. (But it will serve crybaby Ronaldinho right.)

Yeah, right. You honestly think Australia can beat Brazil?

Carn The Socceroos!

Outlasted? They got lucky. And the Australian commentator is calling Cahill's goal a goal of the tourny contended? Pfhhh. I can't wait for Australia to play a world class side and get shut up.

Hiddink got it right in timing his substitutions, and in the substitutions he made. Thus Australia had players with energy in their legs in critical places at critical times. Zico failed in this. He left it too late.

Yes the Aussies got lucky, but that is football, and in part the luck was manufactured.

Outlasted? They got lucky. And the Australian commentator is calling Cahill's goal a goal of the tourny contender? Pfhhh. I can't wait for Australia to play a world class side and get shut up.

What if Australia actually beats Brazil? Brazil is not unbeatable ya know.

The only problem with that is that it is more likely to be Brazil being physically hacked to pieces by Australia. (But it will serve crybaby Ronaldinho right.)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*cramps because of all the laughing*

Go watch the reply with an open mind. (If you are capable of that, which somehow I doubt.)

I've seen it many times. My opinion stands.

Wow, interesting ending to that game.

I agree that should have been a 3-0 game though. I think there was a clear penalty on the Japanese goal.

Yes the Aussies got lucky, but that is football, and in part the luck was manufactured.

This I can agree with.

The referrees made a ton in this game. Sorry but I'll go with them over the people on this board.at least 50% of the drama in WC Football is provided by the referees (blind calls/non-calls).

that compares to less than 5% in the NFL.

If any World class sport needs some kind of Video-Replay.. that gotta be Football.

What if Australia actually beats Brazil? Brazil is not unbeatable ya know.

Actually, they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrq1TtrsJo&search=ronaldinho

Welcome to the jungle, Australia.

Actually, they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkrq1TtrsJo&search=ronaldinho

Welcome to the jungle, Australia.

Seriously they are not. They lost in qualifying to Argentina (understandable) and to Ecuador!

Brazil has no defence this time around.

Three one! THAT was an incredible last six minutes! Australia can take whatever ANYONE dishes out! :D

You heard me: Brazil is going down!

Seriously they are not. They lost in qualifying to Argentina (understandable) and to Ecuador!

Brazil has no defence this time around.

Watch the video again honey. Then try to remember that Australia's fate is sealed. But they should be proud of this victory; it's as far as they'll ever get.

BRAZIL 4-0!

You know, knowing that Australia's going to be slaughtered by Brazil makes me feel a lot better about Brazil's inevitable victory.

You are very bitter.

Seriously they are not. They lost in qualifying to Argentina (understandable) and to Ecuador!

Brazil has no defence this time around.
We beat them in qualifiying, and we'll do it again!!

but Australia is nowhere near Brazil's level

Brazil is not unbeatable ya know.of course not, Ecuador and Argentina defeated Brazil.. (that only the ones I know)

Three one! THAT was an incredible last six minutes! Australia can take whatever ANYONE dishes out! :D

You heard me: Brazil is going down!

Brazil has Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Kaka, Robinho, Cafu, Emerson, Gilberto. Australia has... Cahill.

Good luck!

You are very bitter.

I hate them. They're cocky. They win one game and they think they rule Germany. We'll show them that they don't.

of course not, Ecuador and Argentina defeated Brazil.. (that only the ones I know)

Yeah, and so will Australia! :rolleyes:

of course not, Ecuador and Argentina defeated Brazil.. (that only the ones I know)
unfortunately for Australia, her team does nto play on the same level as those countries

unfortunately for Australia, her team does nto play on the same level as those countries

They think they do, though. I want them to get their upcommance.

Three one! THAT was an incredible last six minutes! Australia can take whatever ANYONE dishes out! :D

You heard me: Brazil is going down!hmm, My brain says that Australia will not win again at the WC, not before 2010.

Look, da Soccaroos had a 3-1 win, that is enough to be proud.. for the next 12 years.

what's the matter........ the H O S T S will win anyway :cool:

Do you all have to be so bitter and confrontational over a football match?

Well played, Australia. I like the Ozzies, I lived there for a year recently, but I have to say Japan was the superior team for most of the match. Before the game, I was predicting something like a 1-0 or 2-1 victory for Japan, and at first it looked as if I was right. Still, Australia won fair and square, Zico didn't handle his role as coach particularly well, and the Japanese attackers did make some unfortunate mistakes.

Sadly, it looks like curtains for Japan in this Cup. This match was a must-win. Australia still have an uphill struggle to face, but it'll take a miracle for Japan to move on to the next round. Both Australia-Croatia and Japan-Croatia should be interesting matches...

Next up, USA v. Czech Republic. I predict 0-2 (in favour of the Czechs), but I wouldn't be amazed if the US pulled off a surprise draw.

what's the matter........ the H O S T S will win anyway :cool:

Not bloody likely. They're a second rate team.

They think they do, though. I want them to get their upcommance.
I don't think so

Those last two goals happened because Japan completely fell apart, and because of some timely substitutions

Against Ecuador, Argentina or Brazil, Australia will not win

Watch the video again honey. Then try to remember that Australia's fate is sealed. But they should be proud of this victory; it's as far as they'll ever get.

I am not arguing that Australia will beat Brazil (they won't). I am just saying that Brazil are not unbeatable, and I live in Brazil.

I am not arguing that Australia will beat Brazil (they won't). I am just saying that Brazil are not unbeatable, and I live in Brazil.
Of course they're not, we beat them
but Australia is not on the same level as Argentina

Not bloody likely. They're a second rate team.
I thought so, too. But they became really very good. I didn't expect that myself.

Do you all have to be so bitter and confrontational over a football match?.yes.. YES!! we do..

and it is going to last one month, get over it. ;)

BTW I did not get my wish: USA and Iran on the same group. :D

Confrontation? Brint it on.

Brazil has Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Kaka, Robinho, Cafu, Emerson, Gilberto. Australia has... Cahill.

Good luck!

Well, thanks; We're certainly gonna need it! :p

I don't think so

Those last two goals happened because Japan completely fell apart, and because of some timely substitutions

Against Ecuador, Argentina or Brazil, Australia will not win

I'm saying that they won't beat Ecuador, Argentina or Brazil. I agree with you.

I'm saying that they won't beat Ecuador, Argentina or Brazil. I agree with you.
yay!
agreement!

I thought so, too. But they became really very good. I didn't expect that myself.

A 4-2 win over Costa Rica doesn't make Germany good. They drew with Japan 2-2. That means that Australia will beat Germany.

yay!
agreement!

I would have thought that, given your associations, you would want Australia to beat Brazil. ;)

A 4-2 win over Costa Rica
I'm surely not speaking of that match. Ballack was ill, Lehmann was injured but didn't leave the goal.... with Ballack and Kahn in the goal it would have been a 5:0 or better :D :D

In other news, this game has hugely lowered my respect for Japan, and by extension, Germany, who barely DREW with Japan.

I'm surely not speaking of that match. Ballack was ill, Lehmann was injured but didn't leave the goal.... with Ballack and Kahn in the goal it would have been a 5:0 or better :D :D

Ballack isn't that good. One man does not a World Cup winning squad make.

BTW I did not get my wish: USA and Iran on the same group. :D

Confrontation? Bring it on.

I was hoping for that too. :D

But then it happened back in '98, so I suppose again so soon would have been unlikely.

who barely DREW with Japan.
there where a lot of gaps in the defensive, so the german team really sucked - not only against Japan.
But that's what I'm talking about: these gaps are closed

well, we'll see.... :D

Ballack isn't that good. One man does not a World Cup winning squad make.

Tell that to Riquelme.

Tell that to Riquelme.

He's not so great.

I hate them. They're cocky. They win one game and they think they rule Germany.
Um, really? How do you know?

Because in the interview *I* saw with Cahill right after the game he was very gracious and humble. Cocky bastard. :rolleyes:

Oh god, they're playing it again.

Japan will win because you cannot intimidate them. So Australia's rugby skills won't have any effect.


Actually in Australia as is in New Zealand, only the sissies play soccer. You wont find rugby players into soccer and vice versa. Its a bit mocked as a girls sport as the players always dive around feigning injuries and then hug an kiss each other when they score. hmmm. Its a playground and indoor sport, or its a sport played by descendants of people with still strong links to england, greece, lebanon, etc etc.

That rant being said, Aussie will win ofcourse...duh. They have Superman Guus coaching them. and whatsmore, they travel better than Japan....much better offshore record.

Um, really? How do you know?

Because in the interview *I* saw with Cahill right after the game he was very gracious and humble. Cocky bastard. :rolleyes:

All the commentators are carrying on like god announced Australians as his chosen people. They need to, you know, fucking comes down to Earth. I follow Germany, and I was happy they beat Costa Rica, but I know that they'll be very lucky to win the group stage.

Actually in Australia as is in New Zealand, only the sissies play soccer. You wont find rugby players into soccer and vice versa. Its a bit mocked as a girls sport as the players always dive around feigning injuries and then hug an kiss each other when they score. hmmm. Its a playground and indoor sport, or its a sport played by descendants of people with still strong links to england, greece, lebanon, etc etc.

That rant being said, Aussie will win ofcourse...duh. They have Superman Guus coaching them. and whatsmore, they travel better than Japan....much better offshore record.
and the always good comeback to the "Big Men" that play rugby

A scrum? looks like and excuse to huddle together and grab each others privates

oh they have won....3-1...haha...great stuff.

All the commentators are carrying on like god announced Australians as his chosen people. They need to, you know, fucking comes down to Earth. I follow Germany, and I was happy they beat Costa Rica, but I know that they'll be very lucky to win the group stage.
o.O Germany? I was talking about your hatred of the Australians. So are you Australian yourself, what with those commentators you mentioned?

o.O Germany? I was talking about your hatred of the Australians. So are you Australian yourself, what with those commentators you mentioned?

I was using Germany as an example. I know Germany's not going anywhere, Australia should know they're not going anywhere either.

Watched the whole game in a bar full of 1/2 Js and half As. And a wonderful friendly crowd it was. :D Good luck to both teams - I want a USA match up against at least one...

3-1 Go the green and gold!!

I'm an aussie, but previouslly had very little respect for our national side. they always played very scappy football, but tonight, they showed some skill and at times class.

Japan dove so many times, it was ridiculous. and their goal was a bad call from the ref.

You got to love Cahill. I've never understood why hes not starter. and there was promise from others as well.
huus is the master and can be forgiven for a few mistakes. it was good to see huus after each goal.
1st goal was like, come on!!
2nd was like, give it to me baby
3rd was like, we may have a chance in this comp.

With a bit of confidence we will give the croations a run for their money, every1 is very tentative on the ball, esp Viduka, but after tonighht they might unwind.

Brazil will still prob kick us by at least 3 goals, but u never know.

I would have thought that, given your associations, you would want Australia to beat Brazil. ;)
yes I would, but its just not happening

Way to turn a game, Australia!
Congratulations!

I think that was the greatest six minutes of my life... :p

That was a great result for Australia, but I'm not getting carried away. I think we will really struggle against Brazil & will still need a lot of luck to make it through to the next round.

The only problem with that is that it is more likely to be Brazil being physically hacked to pieces by Australia. (But it will serve crybaby Ronaldinho right.)
Hey, be fair. The Holland game was ugly, but ugly from both sides. Snijder and Cocu hurt themselves in regular challenges, not fouls.
The Wilkshire thing was dumb, and he was sent off.

And then the Japanese ran with it, for days and days and days. Just to put something in the mind of the refs.

Brazil has Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Adriano, Kaka, Robinho, Cafu, Emerson, Gilberto. Australia has... Cahill.

Good luck!
And Viduka, Kewell, Bresciano, Aloisi and that new guy, Kennedy. I'm telling you, don't discount them.
And also: Jesus, dude. Where are you from? Why do you hate the team so much?

I support them all the way. This is a great story (they're calling it their "World Cup Adventure") and a great show to watch.

As for Brazil - who knows? We'll see how they play tonight and then we might be able to say more, but it just takes one freak incident and they're a goal down. And once that happens, the Aussies will have all the morale they need to make strange things happen (like score three goals in the last ten minutes).

I was using Germany as an example. I know Germany's not going anywhere, Australia should know they're not going anywhere either.
The Australian commentators (a team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Warren) which has been working (http://www20.sbs.com.au/sport/index.php?pg=tm&id=11) to make the game popular in this country literally for decades (http://www20.sbs.com.au/sport/index.php?pg=tm&id=1)) have been very reasonable about this, if understandably happy.
They think that the team has a chance, and judging by the performances I've seen against Uruguay, Greece and Holland, they certainly have the mental strength to do so.
And their key players are important assets to their top-level teams in Italy and England. So the skill is there too.
And now they have Hiddink (who actually got under a lot of criticism by the commentators for some of his pre-subsititution tactics) who brings the tactical experience.

There is no reason to assume the team isn't good enough to cause an upset (they already did), and they've given themselves every chance now to make it out of this incredibly tough group. And after that you know yourself that the laws of football don't apply anymore.

Watched the whole game in a bar full of 1/2 Js and half As. And a wonderful friendly crowd it was. :D Good luck to both teams - I want a USA match up against at least one...
Not sure which is worse right now, my Japanese co-workers who are depressed or my Australian neighbor who is bouncing off the walls. ;)

Hey, be fair. The Holland game was ugly, but ugly from both sides. Snijder and Cocu hurt themselves in regular challenges, not fouls.
The Wilkshire thing was dumb, and he was sent off.
And they carried on where they left off after the Holland match today against Japan. Did you see the foul by Cahill in his own penalty area, or are you as blind as the ref was? It deserved an outright red card. The other point is that the Holland game was a 'friendly' and the Aussie players seemed to forget that. The idea of a friendly is to play against another team without trying to cause injuries to them, and it matters little if you win or not in the end. The Wilkshire thing was more than dumb, it was an offence against sport and sportsmanship as a whole. He should have been thrown off the Aussie squad, but no, instead he was in the starting line up today.


And also: Jesus, dude. Where are you from? Why do you hate the team so much?
I don't hate the team, I just lack respect for players that have to resort to two footed jump-in tackles. If your players stopped thinking they were playing some form of Aussie rules, and started playing football, then I would have no problem with them. (I am in Brazil by the way)

There is no reason to assume the team isn't good enough to cause an upset (they already did), and they've given themselves every chance now to make it out of this incredibly tough group. And after that you know yourself that the laws of football don't apply anymore.
The point is that the laws of football do apply. Don't forget it.

Did you see the foul by Cahill in his own penalty area, or are you as blind as the ref was? It deserved an outright red card.
I saw it, and it obviously was a foul. The ref didn't see it though, and that's that. But he wasn't exactly trying to hurt the guy, so I don't think a red card would've been on. Compare that with the Ghanaian defender against Italy with the slide tackle from behind.
It's hardly the first team in this competition to get away with something like that. In fact, I don't like the whole way everyone plays for free kicks these days. And the constant pretending to be injured thing needs to be dealt with.

He should have been thrown off the Aussie squad, but no, instead he was in the starting line up today.
Yeah, like any coach will kick players off their team for committing a foul.

If your players stopped thinking they were playing some form of Aussie rules, and started playing football, then I would have no problem with them. (I am in Brazil by the way)
And I'm telling you that both sides played overphysical in the Holland game, and that this one here was primarily dominated by Japanese players flying all over the place hoping the ref would run with it.
Seriously, I don't see how this Australian team plays any different to any other side that is strong in height and mass. Maybe the issue is that you have only seen the one game against Holland, but that was an exception.

And by the way, I don't think I was talking to you on that one, I meant Cold Nation.

Not sure which is worse right now, my Japanese co-workers who are depressed or my Australian neighbor who is bouncing off the walls. ;)

Well, no Aussies at today's school, so it'll just be depressed Japanese. And 1 doubley depressed and tired USAmerican - what with the result of todays Stanley Cup game.)

There is no reason to assume the team isn't good enough to cause an upset (they already did), and they've given themselves every chance now to make it out of this incredibly tough group. And after that you know yourself that the laws of football don't apply anymore.

Upset? No. Japan is just shithouse.

As an England fan, I feel both England and Australia are fortunate with their groups. Croatia are probable the weakest European team to qualify, Japan have many of their players based in Japan and clearly struggle playing in Europe. They are one of the handful of weakest teams when playing in Europe.

Brazil, I grant you, but it cannot seriously be described as a "incredibly tough group".

Trinidad and Tobago are faced with England, Sweden and Paraguay, who offer a more consistent challenge. Compared to T&T, Oz have it remarkably easy, and this is to compare to one of the 'easier' groups.

Upset? No. Japan is just shithouse.
First they beat Uruguay, then they held Holland to a draw. Now they beat Japan (which is not shithouse, otherwise Germany wouldn't have been smashed by them like they did).
That is already more than anyone considered them capable of, which is pretty much the definition of an upset.

First they beat Uruguay, then they held Holland to a draw. Now they beat Japan (which is not shithouse, otherwise Germany wouldn't have been smashed by them like they did).
That is already more than anyone considered them capable of, which is pretty much the definition of an upset.

You're assuming that I think Germany is any good. But they're worse than Japan. They only win games when they strike the hell out of the opponent. Australia can beat Germany. Hell, Saudi Arabia could be Germany.

You're assuming that I think Germany is any good. But they're worse than Japan. They only win games when they strike the hell out of the opponent. Australia can beat Germany. Hell, Saudi Arabia could be Germany.
Bleh? Doesnt their record kind of contradict you on that one?

Liasia']Bleh? Doesnt their record kind of contradict you on that one?

What record? Japan 2-2, Italy 4-1. That's plenty record for me.

You're assuming that I think Germany is any good. But they're worse than Japan. They only win games when they strike the hell out of the opponent. Australia can beat Germany. Hell, Saudi Arabia could be Germany.
So then, who is any good? And you still haven't told me where you're from...

As for Germany - their style of play has its weaknesses, true. But it seems to be working up front. Obviously we can only say more after the group stages, but from their performance they were still one of the more convincing "favourites" I have seen so far. Italy did well and the Czechs did. But Holland, Argentina and England certainly didn't prove their worth yet.

So then, who is any good? And you still haven't told me where you're from...

Brazil, Argentina, Italy. Those are good teams. And you don't know where I'm from? Go ahead. Take a wild guess.

As for Germany - their style of play has its weaknesses, true. But it seems to be working up front. Obviously we can only say more after the group stages, but from their performance they were still one of the more convincing "favourites" I have seen so far. Italy did well and the Czechs did. But Holland, Argentina and England certainly didn't prove their worth yet.

Beating a tiny Caribbean nation doesn't exactly convince me that Germany's getting past the group stage.

And you don't know where I'm from? Go ahead. Take a wild guess.
There are more than 200 nations on the planet, dude. But my guesses are either Germany or Australia.

Beating a tiny Caribbean nation doesn't exactly convince me that Germany's getting past the group stage.
They won't be able to help it. Not with that sort of group.

I'm just not sure what your problem is. Obviously some teams are better than others, no doubt. But it would be pointless to have a World Cup with only a few teams - part of the attraction is that lesser teams have a chance sometimes. Australia had a chance, they took it, they're happy about it. All I'm wondering is what you think is so wrong with that.

While watching the game I nearly punched the T.V. when the reff allowed the Japanese Goal. They also played such a dirty game and took so many dives (I'm not sure if all teams play like that). Anyhoo I'm over the moon the Aussies actually won.

I'm just not sure what your problem is. Obviously some teams are better than others, no doubt. But it would be pointless to have a World Cup with only a few teams - part of the attraction is that lesser teams have a chance sometimes. Australia had a chance, they took it, they're happy about it. All I'm wondering is what you think is so wrong with that.

I think it's wrong because they didn't deserve that win. They got lucky. And now they think that they're fucking Brazil 1970. They're cocky, and they need to be brought down to earth.

You know what's cool, though? Australia's cockiness has made me LIKE Brazil. I used to loathe them for their humiliation of Germany in 2002.

I think it's wrong because they didn't deserve that win. They got lucky.
Oh, come on. They pushed hard, they had more posession for most of the game, and in the end the Japanese were seriously just sitting in their own half. It would've been undeserved if the scoreline stayed at 1:0.

And now they think that they're fucking Brazil 1970. They're cocky, and they need to be brought down to earth.
When were they cocky? Guus told them what they had to do to make it, and they try to do it. How else should they behave?

Australia's cockiness has made me LIKE Brazil.
You mean because the Brazilian team is such an awesome example of humility?

I'm not sure what win you are talking about but if it is the won over Japan we bloody well did deserve it. Then again thats about the only game I've watched excpet for the qualifying win against Uraguay.

I think it's wrong because they didn't deserve that win. They got lucky. And now they think that they're fucking Brazil 1970. They're cocky, and they need to be brought down to earth.

You know what's cool, though? Australia's cockiness has made me LIKE Brazil. I used to loathe them for their humiliation of Germany in 2002.

We Australians can't help our cockiness - we were blessed with big cocks, but if you prefer Brazillian cock, your loss.

I'm all for Aussie cockiness!

"Australia is the first team at this tournament to come back after being 1-0 down, and Cahill (twice) and John Aloisi became the second and third substitute to score at the 2006 World Cup. No other team has scored three goals in the last seven minutes in World Cup history." – BBC Sport

"Egyptian referee Essam Abdullah el Fatah allowed the goal to stand, much to the dismay of the protesting Australians. What made the decision even stranger was el Fatah's keenness to blow the whistle at even the slightest contact before and after the pivotal moment." – Aljazeerah

Australia won fair and square. We're far from a great soccer team, but we are just enjoying the first taste of success we've had. All you sour pricks who can't let us enjoy our 15 minutues of fame need to go and and get yourself a root, and get off your bloody computer, you freaks!!!

Oh, come on. They pushed hard, they had more posession for most of the game, and in the end the Japanese were seriously just sitting in their own half. It would've been undeserved if the scoreline stayed at 1:0.

The Japanese were ripped off by the referees severals times. Although that doesn't excuse their patheticness.

When were they cocky? Guus told them what they had to do to make it, and they try to do it. How else should they behave?

Like a team that's scored 3 goals in their entire World Cup history. I wouldn't be doing fancy crap if I scored for Australia. I'd just run back into position.

You mean because the Brazilian team is such an awesome example of humility?

After 5 trophies, they deserve to be cocky.

We Australians can't help our cockiness - we were blessed with big cocks, but if you prefer Brazillian cock, your loss.

I'm all for Aussie cockiness!

"Australia is the first team at this tournament to come back after being 1-0 down, and Cahill (twice) and John Aloisi became the second and third substitute to score at the 2006 World Cup. No other team has scored three goals in the last seven minutes in World Cup history." – BBC Sport

"Egyptian referee Essam Abdullah el Fatah allowed the goal to stand, much to the dismay of the protesting Australians. What made the decision even stranger was el Fatah's keenness to blow the whistle at even the slightest contact before and after the pivotal moment." – Aljazeerah

Australia won fair and square. We're far from a great soccer team, but we are just enjoying the first taste of success we've had. All you sour pricks who can't let us enjoy our 15 minutues of fame need to go and and get yourself a root, and get off your bloody computer, you freaks!!!

Amen to that. We deserved to win and I am struggling to see how we got 'lucky'.

Like a team that's scored 3 goals in their entire World Cup history. I wouldn't be doing fancy crap if I scored for Australia. I'd just run back into position.
You mean like ... being happy?

I thought that was actually pretty nice, the way the whole team got together. It's not like they did some sort of choreographed dance.

"Australia is the first team at this tournament to come back after being 1-0 down, and Cahill (twice) and John Aloisi became the second and third substitute to score at the 2006 World Cup. No other team has scored three goals in the last seven minutes in World Cup history." – BBC Sport

And Germany-Costa Rica got the highest score ever in an opening game. Your point?

The Japanese were ripped off by the referees severals times. Although that doesn't excuse their patheticness.



Like a team that's scored 3 goals in their entire World Cup history. I wouldn't be doing fancy crap if I scored for Australia. I'd just run back into position.



After 5 trophies, they deserve to be cocky.


Your kidding yeah? How would you feel if you were the first person to score for your country EVER in the World Cup. What would you do if your goals had just won a game that looked all but lost? Come on man stop being so bloody up tight and accept we have a right to celebrate. As for the Japanese getting ripped off by the reffs, need I remind you of the whole controversy about Japan even scoring. That goal should have been disallowed so I think we got the short end of the stick when it comes to reffing.

You mean like ... being happy?

I thought that was actually pretty nice, the way the whole team got together. It's not like they did some sort of choreographed dance.

And Australia is happy with that performance? They beat a second rate team. Now I hear people talking about Australia beating Brazil 4-1, like they're the best team in the world. I follow Germany and Ukraine, but I'm realistic enough to know that neither team will beat Brazil within my life time. Why are Australians foolish enough to believe that they can win the Cup?

Your kidding yeah? How would you feel if you were the first person to score for your country EVER in the World Cup. What would you do if your goals had just won a game that looked all but lost? Come on man stop being so bloody up tight and accept we have a right to celebrate. As for the Japanese getting ripped off by the reffs, need I remind you of the whole controversy about Japan even scoring. That goal should have been disallowed so I think we got the short end of the stick when it comes to reffing.

You have the right to celebrate when you get to a part of the tournament with the word "Finals" in the title.

And if I was the first person ever to score a WC goal for Australia, I'd be EMBARRASSED. I'd deliberately bounce it off an opponent so it's an own goal.

And Australia is happy with that performance? They beat a second rate team. Now I hear people talking about Australia beating Brazil 4-1, like they're the best team in the world. I follow Germany and Ukraine, but I'm realistic enough to know that neither team will beat Brazil within my life time. Why are Australians foolish enough to believe that they can win the Cup?


I dont think I have spoken to one person who thinks we will win. All the people i know think Brazil will win and think we would be lucky to make it to the second round. Is it foolish though to beleive in your team and to give them support?

I dont think I have spoken to one person who thinks we will win. All the people i know think Brazil will win and think we would be lucky to make it to the second round. Is it foolish though to beleive in your team and to give them support?

Yes! Don't go ballistic over a team that has no chance. I'm don't over my useless teams.

You have the right to celebrate when you get to a part of the tournament with the word "Finals" in the title.

And if I was the first person ever to score a WC goal for Australia, I'd be EMBARRASSED. I'd deliberately bounce it off an opponent so it's an own goal.

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You would be embarressed to score...

The words "friggen moron" spring to mind. As well as some more colourfull ones.

You have to remember it is the first time we have qualified in 32 years. Of course we are celebrating.

Yes! Don't go ballistic over a team that has no chance. I'm don't over my useless teams.

Why can't you let us enjoy our moment of victory? Why the bitterness? No-one genuinely believes we can win the World Cup, but what's the harm in hoping & dreaming? No-one is proclaiming Australia to be the best in the world, we're just happy for our stunning, never say die victory in our opening World Cup match. It's the first one we've ever won, so I think we have a right to be happy about it. We're not saying we're better than Brazil at all.

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You would be embarressed to score...

The words "friggen moron" spring to mind. As well as some more colourfull ones.

You have to remember it is the first time we have qualified in 32 years. Of course we are celebrating.

I'd hate to be the guy who goes down in history as the first to score for Australia in the WC. That would make me the leader of the guys who think that they're better than Brazil.

I'd hate to be the guy who goes down in history as the first to score for Australia in the WC. That would make me the leader of the guys who think that they're better than Brazil.

Man, you've got to be greatest tool in the global tool-box. Get a life loser!

Why can't you let us enjoy our moment of victory? Why the bitterness? No-one genuinely believes we can win the Worl Cup, but what's the harm in hoping & dreaming? No-one is proclaiming Australia to be the best in the world, we're just happy for our stunning, never say die victory in our opening World Cup match. It's the first one we've ever won, so I think we have a right to be happy about it.

Because you give the rest of us a bad name! No other country carries on like this. When other countries win a game, they don't show their team on TV with the title "The New World Cup Champions." Other countries constructively criticise, rather than heap on endless praise.

Also, I'm pissed off that Japan, a country that had some promise, is now virtually out of the tournament because of a country that has no chance.

And also I'm insecure because my teams are worthless.

And Australia is happy with that performance? They beat a second rate team.
Yep. They beat a team which was considered better than them and won their first World Cup match for their country.
And they did it in difficult circumstances, showing that ability to not give up (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/sport.html?in_article_id=390358&in_page_id=1771) on a game which they have and some other teams don't.

Now I hear people talking about Australia beating Brazil 4-1, like they're the best team in the world.
I don't think I heard anyone say that. In an interview Mark Schwarzer said that the team shouldn't be overawed and should try to stick to its game regardless of the opposition, but that's just about the most confident thing I've heard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/australia/5043868.stm
Everton midfielder Tim Cahill, who inspired Australia's victory by scoring their first two goals, said the win was a "dream come true".

"Just being a part of this World Cup means everything to all of us," he said.

"To get the goals is the icing on the cake. We look to moments like these from when we were kids dreaming of this situation.

"I'm just really happy to be part of it."
This is, by the way, how the Aussies responded to the game. Not cocky, I don't think.

I follow Germany and Ukraine, but I'm realistic enough to know that neither team will beat Brazil within my life time.
Why not? Everything is possible. I watched a repeat of the 2002 finals recently, and until late in the piece when Kahn couldn't hold on to that ball and Ronaldo scored the first, it didn't at all look certain who'd win.
Brazil is not unbeatable. No team is - all it takes is a bit of luck and the ability to exploit it. I don't think Australia will do it, but I'm unwilling to discount the possibility however slim it might be.

Man, you've got to be greatest tool in the global tool-box. Get a life loser!

Did you see how Klose reacted after his second goal? THAT'S how a player should act after they score a goal in the GROUP STAGE.

By the way, that wasn't even Australia's first score; they scored an own goal for East Germany in '74.

Because you give the rest of us a bad name! No other country carries on like this. When other countries win a game, they don't show their team on TV with the title "The New World Cup Champions." Other countries constructively criticise, rather than heap on endless praise.

Also, I'm pissed off that Japan, a country that had some promise, is now virtually out of the tournament because of a country that has no chance.

And also I'm insecure because my teams are worthless.

You're supposed to enjoy the World Cup. I suggest you go & do so.

Why not? Everything is possible. I watched a repeat of the 2002 finals recently, and until late in the piece when Kahn couldn't hold on to that ball and Ronaldo scored the first, it didn't at all look certain who'd win.
Brazil is not unbeatable. No team is - all it takes is a bit of luck and the ability to exploit it. I don't think Australia will do it, but I'm unwilling to discount the possibility however slim it might be.

You really thought Germany could beat Brazil in 2002? Hmm.

And of course Brazil is not unbeatable. Just not by anybody worse than Argentina. Not now, anyway.

Did you see how Klose reacted after his second goal? THAT'S how a player should act after they score a goal in the GROUP STAGE.

By the way, that wasn't even Australia's first score; they scored an own goal for East Germany in '74.

Who gives a fuck how he acted? He was happy, you know when you feel good? Dude, seriously, you are way to passionate about something so trivial. When was the last time you got your dick wet?

You're supposed to enjoy the World Cup. I suggest you go & do so.

I enjoy the skill; I take no pleasure from victories or losses.

Did you see how Klose reacted after his second goal? THAT'S how a player should act after they score a goal in the GROUP STAGE.
He is Germany's (one country considered among the favourites) top striker, playing a team considered vastly inferior to his own. He's scored plenty of goals, even in the previous World Cup.

It doesn't mean nearly as much to him as Cahill's goals did to the Australian team. You can bet that a Klose-goal in the semi-finals against Holland would be celebrated a bit more extensively. It's a matter of the team's expectations.

You really thought Germany could beat Brazil in 2002? Hmm.
The Brazilians didn't play well. The German team was very compact and their defense did what it had done during the whole tournament and kept the ball away from their goal.
Not that Germany was blowing anyone away either, but they had their chances, some of them pretty close.

Score that one first goal, and the whole game suddenly looks very different.

Who gives a fuck how he acted? He was happy, you know when you feel good? Dude, seriously, you are way to passionate about something so trivial. When was the last time you got your dick wet?

Actually, he would have been annoyed at himself for not nailing the header. It was a critical skill error.

He is Germany's (one country considered among the favourites) top striker, playing a team considered vastly inferior to his own. He's scored plenty of goals, even in the previous World Cup.

Why the heck is Germany one of the favourites? They're 19th in world! Do you know where the USA is? 5th! Germany has no chance.

It doesn't mean nearly as much to him as Cahill's goals did to the Australian team. You can bet that a Klose-goal in the semi-finals against Holland would be celebrated a bit more extensively. It's a matter of the team's expectations.

A goal is a goal.

Actually in Australia as is in New Zealand, only the sissies play soccer. You wont find rugby players into soccer and vice versa. Its a bit mocked as a girls sport as the players always dive around feigning injuries and then hug an kiss each other when they score. hmmm. Its a playground and indoor sport, or its a sport played by descendants of people with still strong links to england, greece, lebanon, etc etc.

That rant being said, Aussie will win ofcourse...duh. They have Superman Guus coaching them. and whatsmore, they travel better than Japan....much better offshore record.

In Australia rugby is played by men with no necks and no brains. Real men play football (and I don't mean soccer).

Errinundera']In Australia rugby is played by men with no necks and no brains. Real men play football (and I don't mean soccer).

I'll second that. What's with all these soccer players getting paid millions of dollars, and then taking dives and pretending to be hurt after a little brush. These guys are soft! Nothing like real footballers....a far more masculine, entertaining and tough game...brutal-the way it should be.

Why the heck is Germany one of the favourites? They're 19th in world! Do you know where the USA is? 5th! Germany has no chance.


France was n°1 in 2002 and.... it was pityful :p

I enjoy the skill; I take no pleasure from victories or losses.

I don't think you enjoy any of it. You're too bitter to be able to experience pleasure.

Why the heck is Germany one of the favourites? They're 19th in world! Do you know where the USA is? 5th! Germany has no chance.
Have a look at your local betting place, and look at the odds (http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/worldcup-worldcup/odds/10218x/sid/10062).

Have a look at your local betting place, and look at the odds (http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/o/card/worldcup-worldcup/odds/10218x/sid/10062).

I'd argue that FIFA knows more about the game than some betting companies.

I'd argue that FIFA knows more about the game than some betting companies.
Obviously not. Ecuador beat Poland, Australia beat Japan. The US was bloody ranked 5!
You're clutching at straws here. You know perfectly well that FIFA rankings don't mean shit.

Obviously not. Ecuador beat Poland, Australia beat Japan. The US was bloody ranked 5!
You're clutching at straws here. You know perfectly well that FIFA rankings don't mean shit.

No, I don't. Why would the rankings be useless?

No, I don't. Why would the rankings be useless?
Because they can't tell you anything about the form on the day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_rankings#Criticism

No, I don't. Why would the rankings be useless?

Umm... just a guess, but maybe because USA is ranked 5th, and obviously they don't deserve to be there? Just a thought, I don't really know anything about them.

Or about soccer in general. But I did stay up to watch the match, and it was awesome!

Hehe, my friend went to bed at the 76 minute mark.

Predicitions for Australia V Japan tonight.

I think Australia will win 2-1.

Mark Viduka to score the opener & John Aloisi to come off the bench to seal it for us.
*Give the man a beer*

I am happy for Australia good on them for waving the Oceania flag.
Too bad it is all over after the Cup but in saying that it wouldn't have been a problem if we had our instant qualification like FIFA all but promised.

Because they can't tell you anything about the form on the day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_rankings#Criticism

Germany, US and Japan are all ranked too high. Besides that, it's pretty accurate.

I've been lazy and only read the first 5-6 pages of this thread, but here's my own thoughts on the match as I prepare for Togo v. S. Korea (given the time differences, this Melbourne resident is only watching the first live game each night).

1 - The Japanese Goal: I think it could have gone either way. The second Japanese player does seem to have shoved Schwarzer, but by then he had already lost his balance from running into the first Japanese player - who was not committing a foul. To my eye he seems to have been oblivious to Schwarzer, who didn't judge the situation at all well, and was flapping a bit. Most referees would have given a foul there, yes, but I don't think it was cast-iron.

2 - Cahill Should Have Been Sent Off: But if you do think the Japanese goal was a foul, then surely the fact that Cahill wasn't sent off realigns the match karma balance - because right after scoring his first goal, he clearly fouled a Japanese player inside the penalty area while already carrying a yellow card. It should have been at least a penalty to Japan, and very probably a red card to Cahill

3 - The Final Score: And on the basis of point 2 - without trying to underplay the drama and excitement of those final 10 minutes - a 1-1 draw would have been a more accurate reflection of the match.

But it's a funny old game...

Australia deserve to be cocky, any nations or fans deserve to be cocky even if it will annoy anyone. And we're going "Ballistic over a team with no chance" as you describe it because we're patriots! We believe in our country. We beat Uruguay, Greece, Drew with Holland, Beat Japan from a come-back. And hell, Japan just failed to hold on in the last 10 minutes which is obviously NO excuse for their defeat, simply, they wern't good enough.

Australia uses their rough tackling as a tactic but not with hatred. I think it has worked well hasn't it? They might have used it against Holland to test it, you never know what Hiddink would do. It was mentioned that Kewell wasn't playing but then he was playing!

I think getting yellow card is quite a warning. Getting a yellow card in one match and another yellow card in another match would give you a suspension for the next game which would be quite costly, especially for Cahill if so.

A match is a match. As someone said, luck is always a factor played in soccer, its been in every single soccer match; whether you managed to fall over on a tiny patch of wet mud in a soccer field, or some guy accidentally headbutted you and you're out for the EPL whatever. Do you see FIFA making charges against the socceroos? No. Because what the Socceroos did was totally legal in the game and within the rules. Sure, bag them, insult them, diss them, it won't change the end results. We saw that during hte match. umpire apologized but the score didn't change.

Germany, US and Japan are all ranked too high. Besides that, it's pretty accurate.
Thats a lie!
Greece is at 20!

Fear not everyone the rankings are getting an overhaul after the world Cup final!
*DANCES*

Thats a lie!
Greece is at 20!

Fear not everyone the rankings are getting an overhaul after the world Cup final!
*DANCES*

How is that a lie? All three nations I mentions should be in the high 30s/low 40s.

Germany, US and Japan are all ranked too high. Besides that, it's pretty accurate.
Not if recent performances are anything to go by. A lot of the teams in the top 20 didn't even make it to the World Cup.

How is that a lie? All three nations I mentions should be in the high 30s/low 40s.
All three have made the final 16 at the last World Cup.
Germany won the Confederations Cup i believe.
Japan did well at the last World Cup though it was at home.

However the FIFA Rankings put alot/abit of emphasis on World Cup wins/results and Japan had a heartbreaker in France 4 years before.
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Anyways i was watching the news and all(A few) the Aussies were chanting 'We're number one we're number one'... er no sunshine you bet Japan not England, Argentina, Brazil, Neanderthal and Germany.

But there was one lass in a Green Socceroos Jersey jumping about shaken that ass and jiggling those titties so all is forgiven.:p

Not if recent performances are anything to go by. A lot of the teams in the top 20 didn't even make it to the World Cup.

Discounting their win over Malta, Japan hasn't won any games recently.

Germany has won a few games recently against weak sides.

Germany won the Confederations Cup i believe.

Germany came third.

Anyways i was watching the news and all(A few) the Aussies were chanting 'We're number one we're number one'... er no sunshine you bet Japan not England, Argentina, Brazil, Neanderthal and Germany.

Take Germany out of that list and you've got a deal; Australia could beat Germany fairly easily.

And... Neanderthal? >_<

Not if recent performances are anything to go by. A lot of the teams in the top 20 didn't even make it to the World Cup.
Greece and Turkey.

None of Africas last entrent made it bar Tunisia; Africa, Senegal, Cameroon and my darling Nigeria didn't make it.
Other participants not there...
Slovakia or Slovenia aint i think...the Czechs got there spot
Russia
Uruguay
Ireland
A few others
Frakin Turkey were Semifinalist werent they?:eek:

Germany came third.



Take Germany out of that list and you've got a deal; Australia could beat Germany fairly easily.

And... Neanderthal? >_<
Ah was it an Argentinian Brazilian Final?

Australia vs Germany was a 5 all draw at the Confed Cup.
Japan and Germany drew 2-2
Australia drew iwth Netherlands 1-1
Netherlands didn't make the last cup.

Neanderthals=Netherlands

Now, that was the best game in the World Cup so far!
Japan leading 1-0 and lose 1-3 ... most teams so far leading 1-0 have won.

:D

Ah was it an Argentinian Brazilian Final?

Australia vs Germany was a 5 all draw at the Confed Cup.
Japan and Germany drew 2-2
Australia drew iwth Netherlands 1-1
Netherlands didn't make the last cup.

Neanderthals=Netherlands

Dude, there wasn't a Confed Cup this year. Last year, Germany beat Australia 4-3, Tunisia 3-0, and drew with Argentina 2-2. Japan lost to Mexico 2-1, beat Greece 1-0 and drew Brazil 2-2.

None of Africas last entrent made it bar Tunisia; Africa, Senegal, Cameroon and my darling Nigeria didn't make it.
Huh?

Huh?
Sorry, Sud Afrika!
The South disappeared... Mugabe must have stole it.*Shifty eyes*

Dude, there wasn't a Confed Cup this year. Last year, Germany beat Australia 4-3, Tunisia 3-0, and drew with Argentina 2-2. Japan lost to Mexico 2-1, beat Greece 1-0 and drew Brazil 2-2.
1) I never said this year
2) It only proves the point that germany is better than Oz.

Now, that was the best game in the World Cup so far!
Japan leading 1-0 and lose 1-3 ... most teams so far leading 1-0 have won.

:D

Alas, I didn't get to see the game! I am damned!

But I did get to see the game between Italy and Ghana! :)

Now, that was the best game in the World Cup so far!
Japan leading 1-0 and lose 1-3 ... most teams so far leading 1-0 have won.

:D
Was it the first game of the night/day?
I heard that the Nips first goal was dubious and off of some intereference.
As far as i am concerned F em if they want to sit on a 1-0 lead they should get shafted.

1) I never said this year
2) It only proves the point that germany is better than Oz.

Not really. It means that Germany got lucky against Australia.

I love the World Cup. It means that every 4 years people who know nothing about football look like idiots when they talk rubbish.

Was it the first game of the night/day?
I heard that the Nips first goal was dubious and off of some intereference.
As far as i am concerned F em if they want to sit on a 1-0 lead they should get shafted.

Japan tried to score but they couldn't shoot straight ... Japan's keeper was not to blame either, he had a good game.

Sorry, Sud Afrika!
The South disappeared... Mugabe must have stole it.*Shifty eyes*
Ah, got quite confused there for a moment...

Not really. It means that Germany got lucky against Australia.
Australia played well against a poorly performing German team.
Germany made the '02 Final.
Germany is better.
Japan tried to score but they couldn't shoot straight ... Japan's keeper was not to blame either, he had a good game.
I see...
I didn't watch any of the games i can't really go to work on 0 hours of sleep for 30 days...
Ah, got quite confused there for a moment...
yes well never trust Commie Catholics.;)

Australia played well against a poorly performing German team.
Germany made the '02 Final.
Germany is better.

I'll believe Germany is better when Germany beats Australia.

I'll believe Germany is better when Germany beats Australia.
You might have to wait a while they might not even face each other at this world cup...

You might have to wait a while they might not even face each other at this world cup...

If Australia do manage to make 2nd round, we play Group E - including Italy and Czech Republic as well as USA and Ghana.

If we managed that, we play the best of Group C & D - most likely Mexico, Portugal, Argentina or Netherlands.

Germany in a Group A, Australia will need to make semi-final get meet them!

If Australia do manage to make 2nd round, we play Group E - including Italy and Czech Republic as well as USA and Ghana.

If we managed that, we play the best of Group C & D - most likely Mexico, Portugal, Argentina or Netherlands.

Germany in a Group A, Australia will need to make semi-final get meet them!

That shouldn't be too hard for Australia.

That shouldn't be too hard for Australia.

Yeah, bring on a Germany vs Australia semi! But we got some team called Brazil to play first ...

If Australia do manage to make 2nd round, we play Group E - including Italy and Czech Republic as well as USA and Ghana.

If we managed that, we play the best of Group C & D - most likely Mexico, Portugal, Argentina or Netherlands.

Germany in a Group A, Australia will need to make semi-final get meet them!
Exactly, they'll bow out to the Czechs but they could beat Italy cause Italty ain't using Holy water this time!:D

Yeah, bring on a Germany vs Australia semi! But we got some team called Brazil to play first ...

Brazil shouldn't been any problem for Australia.

Brazil shouldn't been any problem for Australia.

Well, the Croatia vs Brazil game should see if the Samba Kings are in form. Should be a good game. Pity it's 4:30 in the morning for me.

*Sleeps*

*Sleeps*

Sleepin's for sissies :rolleyes:

You're not a sissy are yuo Harlesburg?:cool:

You're not a sissy are yuo Harlesburg?:cool: Well he IS a New Zealander...;)

Bah, stupid Aussies.
They win one game and they think they're on top of the world.

1-0 Brazil V Croatia, interesting result. I expected the Brazillians to score 2 or 3 goals. The outcome of this group could be very tight indeed.

1-0 Brazil V Croatia, interesting result. I expected the Brazillians to score 2 or 3 goals. The outcome of this group could be very tight indeed.

Why does that sound like some of the USA fans discussing the USA vs Italy?

The outcome of this group:

1. Brazil 9 pts
2. Croatia 6 pts
3. Australia 3 pts
4. Japan 0 pts

Why does that sound like some of the USA fans discussing the USA vs Italy?

The outcome of this group:

1. Brazil 9 pts
2. Croatia 6 pts
3. Australia 3 pts
4. Japan 0 pts

I'd swap Croatia and Australia.

I'd swap Croatia and Australia.

Well, we shall see, shan't we.


(that is the first time I have ever used the word 'shan't' in a post)

Why does that sound like some of the USA fans discussing the USA vs Italy?

The outcome of this group:

1. Brazil 9 pts
2. Croatia 6 pts
3. Australia 3 pts
4. Japan 0 pts

I expect Croatia to come second in the group (with Brazil first), they're certainly favourites to do so. However, if we can get at least a point from Croatia, then it would come down to goal difference.

I expect Croatia to come second in the group (with Brazil first), they're certainly favourites to do so. However, if we can get at least a point from Croatia, then it would come down to goal difference.

That is the difficult part of this plan. Then you have to realise that Croatia only lost 1 - 0 to Brazil - which makes getting ahead of them on goal difference difficult.

That is the difficult part of this plan. Then you have to realise that Croatia only lost 1 - 0 to Brazil - which makes getting ahead of them on goal difference difficult.

Yes, that's why I said if & also why I said I expect Croatia to come second in the group. What I'm saying is that it's not beyond the realms of possibility for Australia to finish second.

Who knows, we may even take some points from the Brazil match! ;)

Yes, that's why I said if & also why I said I expect Croatia to come second in the group. What I'm saying is that it's not beyond the realms of possibility for Australia to finish second.

Who knows, we may even take some points from the Brazil match! ;)

The way they played today, you may well at that.

We shall see.

The way they played today, you may well at that.

We shall see.

My thoughts exactly. I was really looking forward to seeing how Brazil played in their opener here, and even though they won, I am now becoming more optimistic than ever. Only a 1-0 victory for them? That's a little out of character for those guys, isn't it? ;)

What I'm saying is that the Aussies might just be able to pull this off. Maybe - just maybe - Australia could actually BEAT Brazil. (I don't think that sentence has ever been seen before...:D ) Am I reaching high? Dreaming big? Oh yeah. But I won't ever stop rooting for the green and gold!

Here we go again. Now, they're the "Kings of Kaiserlautern (now pronounced "Kaizazlouten")".

Here we go again. Now, they're the "Kings of Kaiserlautern (now pronounced "Kaizazlouten")".

Until somebody else plays there (and, I'm assuming, WINS,) yep, they most certainly are the kings. :p

Until somebody else plays there (and, I'm assuming, WINS,) yep, they most certainly are the kings. :p

What, as opposed to the titular "Kaiser"?

My thoughts exactly. I was really looking forward to seeing how Brazil played in their opener here, and even though they won, I am now becoming more optimistic than ever. Only a 1-0 victory for them? That's a little out of character for those guys, isn't it? ;)

What I'm saying is that the Aussies might just be able to pull this off. Maybe - just maybe - Australia could actually BEAT Brazil. (I don't think that sentence has ever been seen before...:D ) Am I reaching high? Dreaming big? Oh yeah. But I won't ever stop rooting for the green and gold!

I'll be rooting for ya'll. Just to throw it all for a loop. :)

What, as opposed to the titular "Kaiser"?

Eh, pick a word. Whichever is your favourite, we'll run with it. :p

Eh, pick a word. Whichever is your favourite, we'll run with it. :p


... What?

Isn't 'Kaiser' some sort of German word for a figure of authority or something? Like the English word 'King'? :( (Keep in mind I have never pursued the study of the German language and very little of German history to know these things.)

Isn't 'Kaiser' some sort of German word for a figure of authority or something? Like the English word 'King'? :( (Keep in mind I have never pursued the study of the German language and very little of German history to know these things.)

Emperor. To the best of my knowledge, Kaiserlautern can be translated best as "Emperor's city on the Lauter."

Emperor. To the best of my knowledge, Kaiserlautern can be translated best as "Emperor's city on the Lauter."

Okay, well there we go! The Aussies can be the Kaisers of Kaiserlautern! :D

Isn't 'Kaiser' some sort of German word for a figure of authority or something? Like the English word 'King'? :( (Keep in mind I have never pursued the study of the German language and very little of German history to know these things.)
There is only one Kaiser in Germany, and that's him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Beckenbauer).

As for the word, it means "Emperor" and comes from the word Caesar (just like the Russian "Czar"). That means a Kaiser is one step above the kings. There were a number of kingdoms in Germany in the Middle Ages. The Emperor had to be elected, instated by the Pope in Italy and then ruled the council of leaders until one of the little men took him out.
They sorta reinvented it when they founded the German Empire in 1871, since the Prussian King was going to be the top of the pack.

There is only one Kaiser in Germany, and that's him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Beckenbauer).

*snip*

But Franz doesn't play for the Socceroos, so how can it be him? ;)

But Franz doesn't play for the Socceroos, so how can it be him? ;)
Well, the Socceroos can only be the Kings of Kaiserslautern (which they'll have to share with both Otto Rehhagel and Fritz Walter), not the Emperors. Although it'll probably end up as "heroes" anyways.

But Franz doesn't play for the Socceroos, so how can it be him? ;)

:D

I loved this!

Funny, Kaiserslautern have a team, and I always thought it meant "emperor killers". Perhaps too literal a translation?

Oh, and I loved the "You only sing when you're whaling!" by the fans. Just fantastic.

I am really looking forward to the game on the eighteenth. Aussies versus Brazilians? It should be great. :D

GO AUSTRALIA!!!

Sleepin's for sissies :rolleyes:

You're not a sissy are yuo Harlesburg?:cool:
I don't know why don't we ask your Momma!
Well he IS a New Zealander...;)
Bitch!

Is it just me, or does it seem we have over 100 people here who should all be national coaches who have been either misunderstood or have chosen for other priorities?

Of course I'm not adressing everyone, but honestly; watching football saturday night doesn't make you an expert on this. Greater Alemannia in particular wrote some stuff which made me scratch behind my ears. For example, one shouldn't support a team which has no chance according to him. Going by that, South Corea wouldn't have had any support four years ago eh? Having support from home fans is I think an important part of the game and just because you're only throwing your lot in with winners shouldn't prevent from people being less single-minded. There's a difference between thinking a team will win and hoping a team will win.

There, perfect logic, no?

Having support from home fans is I think an important part of the game and just because you're only throwing your lot in with winners shouldn't prevent from people being less single-minded. There's a difference between thinking a team will win and hoping a team will win.

There, perfect logic, no?

I agree with you on that, for sure. Teams have got to have home support: what would the Socceroos be like without stands full of green and gold? (Not to mention what the lack of inflatable kangaroos would do to them...:( ) Anyway, I'm always going to be rooting for the Aussies. I don't actually think they can win this year, but it's a good start. I'm still hoping for them to go all the way though...if my previous posts have been any indication... :p

I agree with you on that, for sure. Teams have got to have home support: what would the Socceroos be like without stands full of green and gold? (Not to mention what the lack of inflatable kangaroos would do to them...:( ) Anyway, I'm always going to be rooting for the Aussies. I don't actually think they can win this year, but it's a good start. I'm still hoping for them to go all the way though...if my previous posts have been any indication... :p

You make an excellent point about the inflatable kangaroos. Where would we be without them? ;)

Germany thumped America a few months back.;)

If we're extremely lucky, judging on Brazil's previous performance, we may just scrape by with a 1-1 draw. I'm banking on a 2-0 loss personally, but we shall see...

Croatia is a fucking good team though, don't expect us to do as well.

Croatia were hard done by.

If we're extremely lucky, judging on Brazil's previous performance, we may just scrape by with a 1-1 draw. I'm banking on a 2-0 loss personally, but we shall see...

Croatia is a fucking good team though, don't expect us to do as well.

Yeah, I reckon we face two very tough games. Both Brazil & Croatia are quality sides.