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The thing is, all joking aside, it's actually true. Historical records from the time of Jesus report that messiahs were kind of a dime a dozen. There are records of reported miracles (including water walking, raising the dead, healing the sick, etc) performed by OTHER contemporaries of Christ. It may seem odd to us, but at that time it was pretty common.
The Alma Mater
14-06-2006, 15:14
Actually...no one back then had the name of Jesus for it was reserved for the Messiah.
Are you certain ? IIRC Josephus mentioned over 20 different men called Jesus in his writings (though I could be mistaken here) - and I seem to recall they called him "of Nazareth"; which implies confusion with others was possible.
Anarchic Conceptions
14-06-2006, 15:15
I'm just remembering Sam Kinnison...
Jesus was the only guy to rise from the dead and not freak everyone out.
"LOOK! THE DEAD LIVE! THE DEAD FUCKING LIVE! KILL IT! KILL IT!" - Sam Kinnison
I've always thought Zombie Jesus would be a great idea for a horror film. Wonder why no one has done it yet.
http://www.bjorn-comic.com/dandv/extras/zombie_jesus.jpg
Pretty positive since he didn't come from sub-saharan Africa.
Considering that Jesus' father was God, I don't think you can make any assumptions about his ethnicity.
I think anyone who voluteers to be tortured in some of the worst possible ways has bigger things to worry about then people born two millennia later getting his skin colour wrong.
It's no so much about the "bigger problems," as it is about him possibly being bugfuck insane. I'm not saying Jesus is crazy, I'm just saying that he might be crazy, and if he is crazy then he's probably pretty dangerously crazy.
Anarchic Conceptions
14-06-2006, 15:16
The thing is, all joking aside, it's actually true. Historical records from the time of Jesus report that messiahs were kind of a dime a dozen. There are records of reported miracles (including water walking, raising the dead, healing the sick, etc) performed by OTHER contemporaries of Christ. It may seem odd to us, but at that time it was pretty common.
I know, that's what makes it funny :)
(Though one could say it is still fairly common now, we just treat it differently)
I know, that's what makes it funny :)
(Though one could say it is still fairly common now, we just treat it differently)
Yeah, I guess maybe I shouldn't be so snooty about it, considering that there are still people who think you can cure cancer by talking to their imaginary friend...
Tropical Sands
14-06-2006, 15:19
Actually...no one back then had the name of Jesus for it was reserved for the Messiah.
No, that isn't true at all. "Jesus" is the Latinized version of the Greek Iaeosis, which was actually used for Pythagoras. In Hebrew or Aramaic, it would have been a variant of Yeshua, which was an extremely common name. More accurately translated to English, its Joshua. And, as you can tell from the Bible itself, there was more than one Joshua.
Strangely enough, we still call Jesus Jesus in English, rather than Joshua.
Anarchic Conceptions
14-06-2006, 15:19
Considering that Jesus' father was God, I don't think you can make any assumptions about his ethnicity.
True. Maybe the Vatican have come to some sort or consensus on the the ethnicity of God (two to one they say German).
It's no so much about the "bigger problems," as it is about him possibly being bugfuck insane. I'm not saying Jesus is crazy, I'm just saying that he might be crazy, and if he is crazy then he's probably pretty dangerously crazy.
Crazy messiah founds crazy cult. Who'da thunk it.
True. Maybe the Vatican have come to some sort or consensus on the the ethnicity of God (two to one they say German).
Yeah. I mean, you would assume that God's genes would be dominant, right? So Mary's skin tone wouldn't necessarily be passed on to the baby. Though maybe that's not the way it worked...maybe God just contributed a Y chromosome, and used Mary's genes for the rest of it?
See, now, these are the things these people need to get to work on.
Crazy messiah founds crazy cult. Who'da thunk it.
*Shakes head sadly* You just never see these things coming.
Straughn
15-06-2006, 03:54
Are you certain ? IIRC Josephus mentioned over 20 different men called Jesus in his writings (though I could be mistaken here) - and I seem to recall they called him "of Nazareth"; which implies confusion with others was possible.
He's certain so long as he doesn't actually have to go look it up ... and he can just ask a family member, his political party, or his pastor.