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What is the most important quality of a lover?

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The South Islands
06-06-2006, 00:22
Ah, the almighty question. What, in your opinion, is the most importatn quality of a lover?

POLL HERE!

You don't have to hold yourself anymore. But feel free to continue.
Ifreann
06-06-2006, 00:23
Ah, the almighty question. What, in your opinion, is the most importatn quality of a lover?

POLL COMMING! HOLD YOURSELF!
*holds himself*
Best thread ever.
Ragbralbur
06-06-2006, 00:23
That the person, regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, race, species, etc. love you back.

Yes, I threw in species.
Rubiconic Crossings
06-06-2006, 00:27
Tits the size of Everest!:p
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 00:28
Definately personality. Looks count... Just type-wise...there has to be physical chemistry too...
Sexy Goddesses
06-06-2006, 00:30
I agree, they definately have to love you back. A good lover is someone who respects you and your opinions. Someone you can laugh with and have fun, someone you feel you can really be yourself around. They need to understand you and love you inspite of all your flaws... which of course we all have... Most imprtantly, they're there for you whenever you need them, through the good times and the bad...
New Zero Seven
06-06-2006, 00:30
Theres really nothing better in a lover than a nice hawt sexy brain.
Not bad
06-06-2006, 00:30
For a lover, as opposed to a serious relationship the most important aspect after sexual attraction has been established is enthusiasm. Nothing is hotter than enthusiasm.
Ifreann
06-06-2006, 00:33
Personality. I'd say being good friends is the basis of any relationship. Though I am not speaking from experience.
Sexy Goddesses
06-06-2006, 00:35
For a lover, as opposed to a serious relationship the most important aspect after sexual attraction has been established is enthusiasm. Nothing is hotter than enthusiasm.

For a lover, yes that is very true... But when your in a relationship, its about so much more then that...
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 00:36
Consent.
Terrorist Cakes
06-06-2006, 00:38
He definately needs to be able to cook. I'll only marry a man who feeds me.
The South Islands
06-06-2006, 00:39
Personality. I'd say being good friends is the basis of any relationship. Though I am not speaking from experience.

That's very true. You cannot love each other if you do not like each other.
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 00:43
He definately needs to be able to cook. I'll only marry a man who feeds me.
Rats.

Well, scratch another one off the list...that just leaves...I see, well-time to lose another standard...
Sumamba Buwhan
06-06-2006, 00:44
OTHER: Compatibility
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 00:44
That's very true. You cannot love each other if you do not like each other.
You can, but it means a drastic increase in the proportion of angry make-up sex.
Infantry Grunts
06-06-2006, 00:45
for someone who is just going to be a lover and nothing else, pure skills in the bedroom, and especially out of the bedroom.
Not bad
06-06-2006, 00:45
For a lover, yes that is very true... But when your in a relationship, its about so much more then that...

I agree but the thread title made me think lover not relationship.
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 00:47
for someone who is just going to be a lover and nothing else, pure skills in the bedroom, and especially out of the bedroom.
Like on a ferris wheel...
Freising
06-06-2006, 00:49
I chose other. I go for a personality and looks package. Can't have one without ther other. I don't like hot chicks with no personality but I don't like ugly girls w/ personality. I just like women with great looks and a great personality, and I've found one :D
Skaladora
06-06-2006, 00:50
The most important characteristic of a love is being attractive to you. This isn't limited to physical attraction; it also encompasses emotional, intellectual and spiritual attraction.
Sexy Goddesses
06-06-2006, 00:50
LOL ferris wheels are fun... Hmmm , not that I would know, ;) lol
Terrorist Cakes
06-06-2006, 00:50
I chose other. I go for a personality and looks package. Can't have one without ther other. I don't like hot chicks with no personality but I don't like ugly girls w/ personality. I just like women with great looks and a great personality, and I've found one :D

Hey! Ugly people are people, too.
Infantry Grunts
06-06-2006, 00:51
Like on a ferris wheel...

2 of my most unique spots have been on a moving quad, and the back of a pick up on the interstate during rush hour
Freising
06-06-2006, 00:54
Hey! Ugly people are people, too.

Hey, I know, I said I don't like good looking people with bad personality as well. I just like both looks AND personality.
Sexy Goddesses
06-06-2006, 00:57
Hey, I know, I said I don't like good looking people with bad personality as well. I just like both looks AND personality.

No offense but thats kinda shallow but in reality its very true for alot of ppl. Anyone can say looks dont matter, its all about brains and personality. But the truth is u cant have a relationship with someone ur not attracted to... U cant kiss someone or make love to someone who ur not attracted to.
Terrorist Cakes
06-06-2006, 00:58
Hey, I know, I said I don't like good looking people with bad personality as well. I just like both looks AND personality.

But personality has a bit more basis in choice, so it's not really fair to slate attractiveness-challenged people in the same catergory as personality-challenged people.
NERVUN
06-06-2006, 01:00
Personality and intelligence. Those lead to having a deep respect and friendship with my chosen lover that will last longer once the physical side has cooled down. You can't have an intelligent conversation with an ass, even if it's a smart ass after all. ;)

Besides, those two also get better with age, unlike looks.
Murgerspher
06-06-2006, 01:04
by far personality.
Not bad
06-06-2006, 01:04
But personality has a bit more basis in choice, so it's not really fair to slate attractiveness-challenged people in the same catergory as personality-challenged people.


Fairness? I thought we were talking love here not sports:p
Pure Metal
06-06-2006, 01:05
difficult to choose between smarts and personality on the poll, but i think honesty would be another 'most important quality' as far as i'm concerned *nods*

looks are also important... *cough* :P
Ifreann
06-06-2006, 01:05
Fairness? I thought we were talking love here not sports:p
'Alls fair in love and war'
Kulikovo
06-06-2006, 01:05
A good personality is the most important. Looks are good too. Smarts is also good. I don't want to date some empty haeded bimbo.
Ashmoria
06-06-2006, 01:06
lover? not boyfriend or husband? just lover?

#1 most important to me is passion.

#2 a reasonable skill level. no sense having passion if he cant deliver at all

#3 patience. things dont automatically go well the first time

#4 a good personality. cant spend the whole time fucking eh?
StrangeWill
06-06-2006, 01:09
When I want my woman to raise her cooking skill I just go have her read the cooking book from the bookshelf for a few hours.






Me? Brains definately. What good is someone if they aren't good at holding any type of interesting discussions and ideas and thoughts and such....

Kinda part of personality.
The South Islands
06-06-2006, 01:17
lover? not boyfriend or husband? just lover?



I wanted to make it all-inclusive.
AB Again
06-06-2006, 01:28
#4 a good personality. cant spend the whole time fucking eh?


Why not?

Otherwise I agree. Passion and skill for a lover. (Discretion helps too, at times.)
Define meaning
06-06-2006, 01:31
I just let Eharmony.com tell me who to love.:rolleyes:
Ashmoria
06-06-2006, 01:34
I wanted to make it all-inclusive.
oh but the qualties you want in a boyfriend are way different than the qualities you want in a husband

for example extravagance is a wonderful quality in a boyfriend and a terrible quality in a husband.
Kellarly
06-06-2006, 01:35
A pulse?


Anywho, bad jokes aside, passion and skill are some of the best for a lover, and although in a relationsip (assuming the OP means lover as in holiday romance or some such) it's important to have that too, you've got to have all those aspects to some degree at least me thinks. At least they should be recognised by the other person in the relationship.
Dakini
06-06-2006, 01:35
The thing with this question is that lover generally has connotations of just what goes on in the bedroom to me. (I certainly don't call my bf my lover on a regular basis) and in such instances, what really matters is skill and drive. I mean, really, if a guy sucks in bed, then I don't care if he wants to do it all the time, but if he's awesome in bed and rarely wants to do it, then it sucks too. However, when someone has a compatible sex drive and they're capable of giving me multiple, cascading orgasms for hours on end... then that's really the best possible ever. (like my current bf. ;) )

If we're asking relationship-wise however, personality does it more than anything. While intelligence is really important, it does nothing if a guy's the smartest man in the world but a total bore.
Ashmoria
06-06-2006, 01:38
I just let Eharmony.com tell me who to love.:rolleyes:
i met a woman whose fiance had dumped her over christmas because he had been fixed up with someone on eharmony.com and had known her for a couple weeks and they were going to get married. all those levels of compatibility dont you know..

sure it was good to know what an ass he was before she married him but it still sucks to be dumped over the holidays.
The South Islands
06-06-2006, 02:43
Thats extremely sad.
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 02:54
I was going to say faithfulness, followed by honesty and integrity (not sure which of those first), but when I saw the poll options, I realized all of those were part of personality, which encompasses even more. And my list starts with lots of things in personality, so personality it is!
And then probably looks. Because I do have a tendency towards appreciating the aesthetically pleasing. Cooking doesn't matter to me, because I can cook for the both of us! :p

Edit: Oh, and I consider smarts as part of personality, but obviously the faithfulness, honesty, integrity, kindness, and fair are more important to me than intelligence and wisdom. Although they pretty much come next. And I think wisdom (although not necessarily intelligence) is somewhat necessary for some of the higher rated qualities.
Europa Maxima
06-06-2006, 02:58
A number of things; looks are definitely important. I prefer hot, tall blonde guys with some body hair. Personality must be similar to mine, but different enough to keep things interesting, and he should be dominant enough to be able to handle me. Intellect is an absolute must. Absolute fealty and trustworthiness are also paramount. Wealth is not so important, but I won't say no. Oh, and having a big schlong is a bonus too. ;)
Peechland
06-06-2006, 02:58
The absence of nose hair of course.
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 03:15
The absence of nose hair of course.
Absense you say?


Hmmm, clearly the rogane and styling gel was the wrong direction to go...Well, I have...something...that needs to be taken care of...
Peechland
06-06-2006, 03:16
Absense you say?


Hmmm, clearly the rogane and styling gel was the wrong direction to go...Well, I have...something...that needs to be taken care of...


Haha! But you wear it well my dear.;)
HotRodia
06-06-2006, 03:17
My answer may not have been the same if I wasn't really hungry right now... ;)
Peechland
06-06-2006, 03:18
I cant believe "one's ability to play Twister" isnt on the poll:confused:
Cannot think of a name
06-06-2006, 03:33
I cant believe "one's ability to play Twister" isnt on the poll
I dated a ballerina once...

aaaahhhh


Hmm? Oh, sorry...what where we...

Haha! But you wear it well my dear.;)
I was thinkin' I'd go after this guy's look. (http://retekalers.webcindario.com/blog/Bobobo-Bo%201.jpg)..
Neo Kervoskia
06-06-2006, 03:43
S/he must be intelligent, or have a shit load of money.
Not bad
06-06-2006, 03:53
I cant believe "one's ability to play Twister" isnt on the poll:confused:

Crisco twister?
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 04:40
I agree, they definately have to love you back. A good lover is someone who respects you and your opinions. Someone you can laugh with and have fun, someone you feel you can really be yourself around. They need to understand you and love you inspite of all your flaws... which of course we all have... Most imprtantly, they're there for you whenever you need them, through the good times and the bad...
I guess I don't need to post, after all....
IL Ruffino
06-06-2006, 04:44
TSI is my perfect lover.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 04:46
TSI is my perfect lover.
Aww, how sweet. I thought your own vodka-laden vomit was, but I suppose even I'm entitled to an erroneous thought here and there.:D
Selginius
06-06-2006, 04:49
Trustworthiness.
IL Ruffino
06-06-2006, 04:50
S/he must be intelligent, or have a shit load of money.
Gender neutral eh?
Good Lifes
06-06-2006, 04:51
The most important thing is to be best friends first.

A Wham-Bam-Thank you Ma'am is never as good as making love to your best friend.
IL Ruffino
06-06-2006, 04:53
Aww, how sweet. I thought your own vodka-laden vomit was, but I suppose even I'm entitled to an erroneous thought here and there.:D
ooooh vodka! sorry TSI..
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 04:53
Trustworthiness.

Sounds similar to my top important traits. :)
...Sounds similar to my top personal traits too....
I guess psychology is right when it says that people prefer people who are similar to themselves.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:02
ooooh vodka! sorry TSI..
LOL :D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:07
I was going to say faithfulness, followed by honesty and integrity (not sure which of those first), but when I saw the poll options, I realized all of those were part of personality, which encompasses even more. And my list starts with lots of things in personality, so personality it is!
And then probably looks. Because I do have a tendency towards appreciating the aesthetically pleasing. Cooking doesn't matter to me, because I can cook for the both of us! :p

Edit: Oh, and I consider smarts as part of personality, but obviously the faithfulness, honesty, integrity, kindness, and fair are more important to me than intelligence and wisdom. Although they pretty much come next. And I think wisdom (although not necessarily intelligence) is somewhat necessary for some of the higher rated qualities.
ZOMG, that's prolly the best post I'll ever see in this thread.:eek:
I'd ask you to marry me, but you already married me to The Beautiful Darkness....And natural, sentimental loyalty is everything. *nods*
New Zero Seven
06-06-2006, 05:08
A hawt brain, and even hawter brain vomit. :)
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 05:13
ZOMG, that's prolly the best post I'll ever see in this thread.:eek:
I'd ask you to marry me, but you already married me to The Beautiful Darkness....And natural, sentimental loyalty is everything. *nods*

Since when did I marry you to The Beautiful Darkness? I was surprised to suddenly find that you were when I saw that you were. :confused:
Er... I haven't gone out with you yet, which would make that marriage thing a problem anyway? :D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:16
Since when did I marry you to The Beautiful Darkness? I was surprised to suddenly find that you were when I saw that you were. :confused:
Er... I haven't gone out with you yet, which would make that marriage thing a problem anyway? :D
Allusion AGAIN to the time you said we argued like a married couple. I let it stick. I like to tease her about that, but I haven't "seen" her today.:( I wasn't serious about marrying you. I think we're much too similar. It wouldn't make for balance.
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 05:24
Allusion AGAIN to the time you said we argued like a married couple. I let it stick. I like to tease her about that, but I haven't "seen" her today.:( I wasn't serious about marrying you. I think we're much too similar. It wouldn't make for balance.

Oh. *blinks* *tries desperately to remember exactly where I said that, although I'm pretty sure that I did*
I'd be scared if you were serious...
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:30
Oh. *blinks* *tries desperately to remember exactly where I said that, although I'm pretty sure that I did*
I'd be scared if you were serious...
I don't remember. Either it was the thread the Mods closed earlier or we'll never find the thread in question. Either way, you definitely said it, and I'm having all sorts of fun with it. Kept me from getting anally raped by Cluichstan(sp?).:eek:

Scared? Oh, I see....:(
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 05:40
I don't remember. Either it was the thread the Mods closed earlier or we'll never find the thread in question. Either way, you definitely said it, and I'm having all sorts of fun with it. Kept me from getting anally raped by Cluichstan(sp?).:eek:

Scared? Oh, I see....:(

Well, I guess that's good, then?

Aw... *pats on head* Well, I don't actually know you, so if you actually wanted to marry me....
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:42
Well, I guess that's good, then?

Aw... *pats on head* Well, I don't actually know you, so if you actually wanted to marry me....
Yes, yes, it most certainly is.

I don't know you, either, which made saying that at all quite a social leap for me. Anyway, you were saying?
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 05:49
I don't know you, either, which made saying that at all quite a social leap for me. Anyway, you were saying?

....? :confused: ..... :(

I don't think I actually was saying anything. What is ZOMG? I know OMG, but.... Z?
JuNii
06-06-2006, 05:53
For me, it's compatability.

not just personailty, but a blending of all things to make the person... and whether or not that person would like me for who I am.

I never went by looks, I passed by girls who were georgous, but somehow not right for me.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:53
....? :confused: ..... :(

I don't think I actually was saying anything. What is ZOMG? I know OMG, but.... Z?
It's really just a more exasperated form of OMG. And you were saying something about if I actually wanted to marry you....
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 05:55
For me, it's compatability.

not just personailty, but a blending of all things to make the person... and whether or not that person would like me for who I am.

I never went by looks, I passed by girls who were georgous, but somehow not right for me.
I was wrong.:eek: I never say that, either. Your post is the equal of P&P's.
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 05:58
For me, it's compatability.

not just personailty, but a blending of all things to make the person... and whether or not that person would like me for who I am.

I never went by looks, I passed by girls who were georgous, but somehow not right for me.

Yes! :)
Syntheds
06-06-2006, 05:58
For a lover, as opposed to a serious relationship the most important aspect after sexual attraction has been established is enthusiasm. Nothing is hotter than enthusiasm.

That's a really great answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 06:05
Yes! :)
Thought you'd feel that way.
Pride and Prejudice
06-06-2006, 06:07
Thought you'd feel that way.

Yep. Anyway, I must do that not-online thingy, and hopefully get to bed sometime before two... still have plenty of project stuff to do...
JuNii
06-06-2006, 06:08
I was wrong.:eek: I never say that, either. Your post is the equal of P&P's.
>.>
<.<
=.=;

do I want to know?
JuNii
06-06-2006, 06:08
The absence of nose hair of course.
*buys nose hair trimmer... *
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 06:10
Yep. Anyway, I must do that not-online thingy, and hopefully get to bed sometime before two... still have plenty of project stuff to do...
Yeah, it's dead here anyway. Good spamming with ya.:) G'night and pleasant dreams.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 06:15
>.>
<.<
=.=;

do I want to know?
I dunno. It's nothing upsetting. Just a elements hopeless romantic elements, that's all.
JuNii
06-06-2006, 06:17
I dunno. It's nothing upsetting. Just a elements hopeless romantic elements, that's all.
Oh... well I've always felt this way... even back in the... man was it the 5th grade? :eek:
Chellis
06-06-2006, 06:19
I wish people could be honest with themselves.

People go for looks first. Denying it is just not acknowledging the obvious. Yes, for long relationships, personality is nearly as important, but only to an extent. As long as they have an ok personality, one you can get along with, most people would rather have the incredibly hot girl with the good enough personality, than visa versa.
JuNii
06-06-2006, 06:29
I wish people could be honest with themselves.

People go for looks first. Denying it is just not acknowledging the obvious. Yes, for long relationships, personality is nearly as important, but only to an extent. As long as they have an ok personality, one you can get along with, most people would rather have the incredibly hot girl with the good enough personality, than visa versa.
....


....


...



I am telling the truth... :(
Undelia
06-06-2006, 06:32
I wish people could be honest with themselves.

People go for looks first. Denying it is just not acknowledging the obvious. Yes, for long relationships, personality is nearly as important, but only to an extent. As long as they have an ok personality, one you can get along with, most people would rather have the incredibly hot girl with the good enough personality, than visa versa.
I don't know about that. Most chicks that aren't fat are good looking in my opinion, but I've only ever been atracted to a few that happen to share my loathing of most human beings.
Hobovillia
06-06-2006, 07:17
Tits the size of Everest!:p


It'd be a bit uncomfortable...:eek:
JuNii
06-06-2006, 07:22
It'd be a bit uncomfortable...:eek:
very... I'm getting a backache just thinking about em. :p
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 07:40
Oh... well I've always felt this way... even back in the... man was it the 5th grade? :eek:
Me, too, but I was referring to P&P's post with all that nonsense I posted that can't really pass for speech.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 07:42
very... I'm getting a backache just thinking about em. :p
The only shortness of breath I'm feeling is from the altitude.:D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 07:43
I wish people could be honest with themselves.

People go for looks first. Denying it is just not acknowledging the obvious. Yes, for long relationships, personality is nearly as important, but only to an extent. As long as they have an ok personality, one you can get along with, most people would rather have the incredibly hot girl with the good enough personality, than visa versa.
That doesn't really apply to everyone. Most people, sure, but not everyone, so if you wouldn't mind keeping your blanket statements to yourself, I've got some spamming to do.
*stalks off*
Fair Progress
06-06-2006, 08:00
Personality, wits and looks in the proper doses
Home-grown-twinkie
06-06-2006, 08:04
OTHER (actually quite a few!):Must be compatible, must like me for who i am, and must like what i do, maybe even do what i do!
[NS]Zukariaa
06-06-2006, 08:56
They need to have looks, a good personality, be smart (I don't want a retarded girlfriend/wife XD), nice boobehs and buttocks, they should be able to cook, I myself want a housewife, so.. :p
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:02
Personality, wits and looks in the proper doses
Mmm, wit. That's a particularly subjective term. Wit comes in several different styles, not all of which may be suited to you.
The Beautiful Darkness
06-06-2006, 15:08
Mmm, wit. That's a particularly subjective term. Wit comes in several different styles, not all of which may be suited to you.

Do you like my wit? :p
Or do you believe me devoid of it? :(
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:18
Do you like my wit? :p
Or do you believe me devoid of it? :(
Very much so. I love your wit. :fluffle: You're just enjoying the white text again, aren't you?:P
Pure Metal
06-06-2006, 15:22
btw, personality must contain plenty of crazy insanity goodness, pretty please :)

and dirty-mindedness :D
and sweetness/kindness
and lets not forget a good ol' sense of humour :fluffle:



(god i love glitziness :D)
The Beautiful Darkness
06-06-2006, 15:23
Very much so. I love your wit. :fluffle: You're just enjoying the white text again, aren't you?:P

Yay! :fluffle:Well, that and, you've honestly given me to believe that you think me in all ways inferior to you : (
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:26
btw, personality must contain plenty of crazy insanity goodness, pretty please :)

and dirty-mindedness :D
and sweetness/kindness
and lets not forget a good ol' sense of humour :fluffle:



(god i love glitziness :D)
Ha! I see you! Your white text doesn't fool anyone! We knew all along you meant Glitzy, so you didn't need the white text.
Megaloria
06-06-2006, 15:30
Uhm, willingness to accept that I collect toy robots.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:30
Yay! :fluffle:Well, that and, you've honestly given me to believe that you think me in all ways inferior to you : (
It's great when you're so happy. :fluffle:Yay!:P Oh, sorry. Socially, you are my superior. Probably also in physical dexterity. I do that to everyone, though. Can't help it; it's natural for me. Survival mechanism and all. *nods*
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:31
Uhm, willingness to accept that I collect toy robots.
What does BritSter think of this?;)
Megaloria
06-06-2006, 15:32
What does BritSter think of this?;)

She doesn't know yet. Optimus Prime knows about her though. He's cool with it, at least.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:38
She doesn't know yet. Optimus Prime knows about her though. He's cool with it, at least.
LOL Might take another ten pounds to keep her interested, though....;)
Pure Metal
06-06-2006, 15:39
Ha! I see you! Your white text doesn't fool anyone! We knew all along you meant Glitzy, so you didn't need the white text.
haha ok, fair play :p

how's bold, size 7 text then? ;)
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:41
haha ok, fair play :p

how's bold, size 7 text then? ;)
Wow, you'd really do ANYTHING for Glitzy, even piss off all the spammers in this little spamhaven.:D Actually, that would express better how much you love her instead of it seeming as though you wish to hide it.
Megaloria
06-06-2006, 15:43
Wow, you'd really do ANYTHING for Glitzy, even piss off all the spammers in this little spamhaven.:D Actually, that would express better how much you love her instead of it seeming as though you wish to hide it.

When women say they want boldness, I don't think they mean it in text form though.
Pure Metal
06-06-2006, 15:46
Wow, you'd really do ANYTHING for Glitzy, even piss off all the spammers in this little spamhaven.:D Actually, that would express better how much you love her instead of it seeming as though you wish to hide it.
meh, she knows i love her... i make sure of that :fluffle:
though you are quite right - i don't really want to piss people off round here cos i like it here :)
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:47
When women say they want boldness, I don't think they mean it in text form though.
Yeah, but pissing people off by changing the screen width is bold here in NSG.:D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 15:50
meh, she knows i love her... i make sure of that :fluffle:
though you are quite right - i don't really want to piss people off round here cos i like it here :)
That isn't the point. You are supposed to impress upon the rest of us how much you love her. Oh, never mind.:mad:
*takes hopelessly romantic notions elsewhere*
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 15:56
btw, personality must contain plenty of crazy insanity goodness, pretty please :)

and dirty-mindedness :D
and sweetness/kindness
and lets not forget a good ol' sense of humour :fluffle:



(god i love glitziness)
I can agree with all them... and I have them in you! Hurrah! :D :) :fluffle:
I love you too :)

Oh, and FD.... hide his love for me? *laughs hysterically*
I recollect there being complaining about us taking over threads with our oh-so-subtle white text invasions of soppiness.... You obviously didn't see us then :p we toned it down a bit since then :p I think it's fairly safe to say anyone who encounters us on here pretty soon figures out how crazily in love we are :D
edit: and thats just on these forums - far more importantly, we both show each other we love each other every day, in every way we can
Dakini
06-06-2006, 15:57
I wish people could be honest with themselves.

People go for looks first. Denying it is just not acknowledging the obvious. Yes, for long relationships, personality is nearly as important, but only to an extent. As long as they have an ok personality, one you can get along with, most people would rather have the incredibly hot girl with the good enough personality, than visa versa.
The question was what is most important. Looks aren't even close to important, it may get someone's foot in the door, but that's about it. Most of the guys I've dated aren't drop dead gorgeous or someone I would drool over from afar, usually they're kinda cute, but they become more (or sometimes less) cute when I get to know them better.

And even if you're talking about a purely physical relationship where it's all about sex, looks aren't the most important, skill is.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 16:02
I can agree with all them... and I have them in you! Hurrah! :D :) :fluffle:
I love you too :)

Oh, and FD.... hide his love for me? *laughs hysterically*
I recollect there being complaining about us taking over threads with our oh-so-subtle white text invasions of soppiness.... You obviously didn't see us then :p we toned it down a bit since then :p I think it's fairly safe to say anyone who encounters us on here pretty soon figures out how crazily in love we are :D
I meant it might look that way to the n00bs. I have heard those stories, but only after I did the same a week or so ago. That's true, but I brought it up in this thread for all those didn't know. I make a great subliminal advertising company here in Generaland.:D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 16:04
The question was what is most important. Looks aren't even close to important, it may get someone's foot in the door, but that's about it. Most of the guys I've dated aren't drop dead gorgeous or someone I would drool over from afar, usually they're kinda cute, but they become more (or sometimes less) cute when I get to know them better.

And even if you're talking about a purely physical relationship where it's all about sex, looks aren't the most important, skill is.
Ha! Another one for my point! Chellis vanquished!:p
Big Jim P
06-06-2006, 16:53
A pulse. Wait, no, thats optional.:D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 17:02
A pulse. Wait, no, thats optional.:D
Not if there already isn't one.:p
Demented Hamsters
06-06-2006, 17:04
Being real and not imaginery like all my g/fs as of late.
Aerou
06-06-2006, 17:08
If we're talking about a "fling" of some sort and not a serious relationship then:

-Spontaneity
-Sexual attraction/good "chemistry"
-Ability to have fun w/ eachother
-Physical attraction
Demented Hamsters
06-06-2006, 17:15
If we're talking about a "fling" of some sort and not a serious relationship then:

-Spontaneity
-Sexual attraction/good "chemistry"
-Ability to have fun w/ eachother
-Physical attraction
You forgot the most important aspect:
-Desperation
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 17:28
You forgot the most important aspect:
-Desperation
What? No charm? No seduction? Are charm and seduction not important anymore to lovers?:confused: :(
Insert Quip Here
06-06-2006, 18:12
Of primary concern would be her willingness to have me as a lover.
Intangelon
06-06-2006, 18:16
Common courtesy or consideration.
Intangelon
06-06-2006, 18:17
What? No charm? No seduction? Are charm and seduction not important anymore to lovers?:confused: :(
No, I think that they're taken as read.
Infinite Revolution
06-06-2006, 18:32
Ah, the almighty question. What, in your opinion, is the most importatn quality of a lover?

i guess 'personality' but i specifically look for a sense of fun and wanton frivolity :D
Minoriteeburg
06-06-2006, 18:40
Tie between personality and smarts, looks are always a plus, but what the hell is the point of a hot girlfriend if you just want to choke the shit out of her everytime she talks.

need a good companion
Cluichstan
06-06-2006, 18:46
In my case, low standards. :(
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 19:58
No, I think that they're taken as read.
Aww, that's disappointing.:( Anyone disagree?
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 20:04
In my case, low standards. :(
Big surprise.:D
Big Jim P
06-06-2006, 20:14
In my case, low standards. :(

Better than no standards.
Taldaan
06-06-2006, 20:14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Looks = Personality

Basically, people are more likely to see attractive people as having good personality traits. People claiming to be attracted by someone's personality are often attracted by how they look, and because of their attractiveness they deem them to have good personalities. Even when presented with evidence to the contrary, this is conveniently pushed aside.
Kanabia
06-06-2006, 20:22
I'm overly fussy. I say personality, smarts and looks are all important. Personality probably slightly more so - that would be the ultimate deal maker. But I could never see myself in a relationship where any one of the above were lacking....meh, at least I admit being shallow...or maybe i'm just honest.

...but coincidentally, that's probably why i'm still single. :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Looks = Personality

Basically, people are more likely to see attractive people as having good personality traits. People claiming to be attracted by someone's personality are often attracted by how they look, and because of their attractiveness they deem them to have good personalities. Even when presented with evidence to the contrary, this is conveniently pushed aside.

Hm, interesting.
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 20:35
I'm overly fussy. I say personality, smarts and looks are all important. Personality probably slightly more so - that would be the ultimate deal maker. But I could never see myself in a relationship where any one of the above were lacking....meh, at least I admit being shallow...or maybe i'm just honest.

...but coincidentally, that's probably why i'm still single. :p
It's overly fussy to find personality, intelligence and appearance important? I wouldn't say so at all. It depends more on how much you expect from those three categories, and how particular you are about different qualities and characteristics.

Also, it's not shallow to find looks important. How can a relationship work if there isn't any physical attraction? You're only shallow if your sole judge of someone is on their appearance, and if nothing else matters to you. The fact that it matters, and matters to the extent you'd need to find someone attractive, isn't at all shallow - just... normal, and admitting it is just being more honest (as you say) than most people.

I never really answered the question... and I've just realised I don't think I can :p Too many factors matter to me. Luckily, I have all my wants met :fluffle: (and I am actually pretty horrendously picky in my own ways, in specific areas... so, if I can find someone Kanabia, so can you :p)
Roblicium
06-06-2006, 20:36
The person's political views are the most important to me. If they have crazy warped views than I don't care how great of a personality or looks they have. They aren't worth it.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 20:42
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Looks = Personality

Basically, people are more likely to see attractive people as having good personality traits. People claiming to be attracted by someone's personality are often attracted by how they look, and because of their attractiveness they deem them to have good personalities. Even when presented with evidence to the contrary, this is conveniently pushed aside.
Not necessarily like that. But personality can influence the physical aspect of a person. Body mannerism and all that.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 20:48
It's overly fussy to find personality, intelligence and appearance important? I wouldn't say so at all. It depends more on how much you expect from those three categories, and how particular you are about different qualities and characteristics.

Also, it's not shallow to find looks important. How can a relationship work if there isn't any physical attraction? You're only shallow if your sole judge of someone is on their appearance, and if nothing else matters to you. The fact that it matters, and matters to the extent you'd need to find someone attractive, isn't at all shallow - just... normal, and admitting it is just being more honest (as you say) than most people.

I never really answered the question... and I've just realised I don't think I can :p Too many factors matter to me. Luckily, I have all my wants met :fluffle: (and I am actually pretty horrendously picky in my own ways, in specific areas... so, if I can find someone Kanabia, so can you :p)
Physical aspects are important, yes, but they can also be influenced by the psychological aspects of the person. One may be more lenient, so to speak, when considering someone with a compatible personality who may not be so physically ideal to them. But you're right about being honest about how much looks do influence matters; the significance varies from person to person, though.
I don't think Kanabia can. I think he's SOL and will die lonely and bitter.:p
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 20:50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

Looks = Personality

Basically, people are more likely to see attractive people as having good personality traits. People claiming to be attracted by someone's personality are often attracted by how they look, and because of their attractiveness they deem them to have good personalities. Even when presented with evidence to the contrary, this is conveniently pushed aside.
So... what about people who I think are attractive but have awful personalities? Or who I think have great personalities but are unattractive?

Interesting theory, and maybe it applies to some people, but I don't hold much to it.
Kanabia
06-06-2006, 20:50
It's overly fussy to find personality, intelligence and appearance important? I wouldn't say so at all. It depends more on how much you expect from those three categories, and how particular you are about different qualities and characteristics.

Also, it's not shallow to find looks important. How can a relationship work if there isn't any physical attraction? You're only shallow if your sole judge of someone is on their appearance, and if nothing else matters to you. The fact that it matters, and matters to the extent you'd need to find someone attractive, isn't at all shallow - just... normal, and admitting it is just being more honest (as you say) than most people.

Emphasis on bolded line...

That's what I think. I don't think anyone can say looks don't matter to them. Unless they're blind, I suppose....which reminds me of that movie with the ugly guy.

Of course, naturally, I don't expect extremely high levels in either of the categories.

I never really answered the question... and I've just realised I don't think I can :p Too many factors matter to me. Luckily, I have all my wants met :fluffle: (and I am actually pretty horrendously picky in my own ways, in specific areas... so, if I can find someone Kanabia, so can you :p)

Yeah, true. :) But fussiness might let it take a while, all the same. :p Eh, there's more important things to worry about in the short term than relationships anyway. Like having to be up in 5 hours and go to work, agh. >.<
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 20:54
Physical aspects are important, yes, but they can also be influenced by the psychological aspects of the person. One may be more lenient, so to speak, when considering someone with a compatible personality who may not be so physically ideal to them. But you're right about being honest about how much looks do influence matters; the significance varies from person to person, though.
Indeed. There's also the matter of attraction based on aspects other than physical appearance.
I don't think Kanabia can. I think he's SOL and will die lonely and bitter.:p
Hmm, you're hopeful, optimistic and comforting, aren't you? Remind me never to come to you if I feel depressed :p
Kanabia
06-06-2006, 20:54
So... what about people who I think are attractive but have awful personalities? Or who I think have great personalities but are unattractive?

Interesting theory, and maybe it applies to some people, but I don't hold much to it.

Yeah - but think of it this way. You might have a crush on someone (which'd be a little deeper than simply finding someone attractive), and their personality flaws are pretty obvious to everyone, except you see past them because basically, you're smitten. I've been there, and i'd guess most people can identify with that as well, either from their own experience or from observing friends.
Kanabia
06-06-2006, 20:56
I don't think Kanabia can. I think he's SOL and will die lonely and bitter.:p

SOL?

edit - Oh, shit outta luck.

Meh.
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 20:57
Yeah, true. :) But fussiness might let it take a while, all the same. :p
Just weeds out the people not worth your time :p
Eh, there's more important things to worry about in the short term than relationships anyway. Like having to be up in 5 hours and go to work, agh. >.<
Uh, good luck with that.... Well, I have exams tomorrow so I'm not much better off, heh.
Pure Metal
06-06-2006, 20:59
Uh, good luck with that.... Well, I have exams tomorrow so I'm not much better off, heh.
but after i'm coming to see you. yay :fluffle:
Kanabia
06-06-2006, 21:00
Just weeds out the people not worth your time :p

I suppose :p

Uh, good luck with that.... Well, I have exams tomorrow so I'm not much better off, heh.

Heh, I have an exam the day after that I should be studying for tomorrow, but eh, that's going to be a bit difficult :p

*yawns*

Ah well, I shouldn't let insomnia get the better of me again...'night, or afternoon...whatever it is. :p
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:00
Yeah - but think of it this way. You might have a crush on someone (which'd be a little deeper than simply finding someone attractive), and their personality flaws are pretty obvious to everyone, except you see past them because basically, you're smitten. I've been there, and i'd guess most people can identify with that as well, either from their own experience or from observing friends.
Hmm, indeed, I've had that actually.... *promptly shuts up* :p
(I read it too much as saying that everyone works in this way all the time...)
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:01
but after i'm coming to see you. yay :fluffle:
oo, indeed :) makes any exam worthwhile, even a scary science one :p
in all seriousness, I'm so looking forward to seeing you again :fluffle:
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:03
Heh, I have an exam the day after that I should be studying for tomorrow, but eh, that's going to be a bit difficult :p

*yawns*

Ah well, I shouldn't let insomnia get the better of me again...'night, or afternoon...whatever it is. :p
Good luck with your exam :)

I have... 11 exams left over next three weeks. But then I have a 9 week holiday :D (involving one week in France with Huw! :fluffle: )
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2006, 21:05
So... what about people who I think are attractive but have awful personalities? Or who I think have great personalities but are unattractive?

Interesting theory, and maybe it applies to some people, but I don't hold much to it.


What about people that are beastly in appearance and have nasty dispostions too?
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:09
What about people that are beastly in appearance and have nasty dispostions too?
Depends what kind of "beastly".... ;) :p

And I wouldn't waste my time on someone with a "nasty disposition".
Cabra West
06-06-2006, 21:13
Most important quality?

Taking the last few weeks of my life into account, I would say there is no such thing. Either you connect with a person, or you don't. This person can have all the good qualities you're looking for and still not be the one, while someone else may only have some of the qualities, but still gives you that feeling that the world suddenly stopped...
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2006, 21:16
Depends what kind of "beastly".... ;) :p

And I wouldn't waste my time on someone with a "nasty disposition".


bummer its hard for me to be nice.

or was it "nice for me to be hard" ?

How about guys with poor memories?
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:17
Most important quality?

Taking the last few weeks of my life into account, I would say there is no such thing. Either you connect with a person, or you don't. This person can have all the good qualities you're looking for and still not be the one, while someone else may only have some of the qualities, but still gives you that feeling that the world suddenly stopped...
I'd agree with this.
Beyond finding reasons for loving someone, or picking out characteristics you like, there's still something undefineable and undescribeable that simply... is. A connection of some kind.
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:20
bummer its hard for me to be nice.

or was it "nice for me to be hard" ?

How about guys with poor memories?
There are lines between nice and nasty... just have to hit that spot

You can work around that by making things extra... memorable :D
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:21
Indeed. There's also the matter of attraction based on aspects other than physical appearance.
Right. I like those aspects more, but I must admit that physical attraction is for me a minor qualification, not a non-existant one. I keep standards low in that regard in hopes that they won't be very high when standards of the same category are applied to me.

Hmm, you're hopeful, optimistic and comforting, aren't you? Remind me never to come to you if I feel depressed :p
Can't do optimistic, but I can be all the others, if need be. But Kanabia doesn't need that, and you wouldn't come to me anyway. You have PM.:(
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:24
Most important quality?

Taking the last few weeks of my life into account, I would say there is no such thing. Either you connect with a person, or you don't. This person can have all the good qualities you're looking for and still not be the one, while someone else may only have some of the qualities, but still gives you that feeling that the world suddenly stopped...
So you're saying the essential whole?
Glitziness
06-06-2006, 21:26
Right. I like those aspects more, but I must admit that physical attraction is for me a minor qualification, not a non-existant one. I keep standards low in that regard in hopes that they won't be very high when standards of the same category are applied to me.
A mix of different kinds of attraction is best IMO *nods*
Quite how would that theory work?

Can't do optimistic, but I can be all the others, if need be. But Kanabia doesn't need that, and you wouldn't come to me anyway. You have PM.:(
Aww, those sad faces get to me every time : :fluffle:
Carnivorous Lickers
06-06-2006, 21:26
There are lines between nice and nasty... just have to hit that spot

You can work around that by making things extra... memorable :D



:D

Hit that spot? Did you say that?

Thats what I do.
Cabra West
06-06-2006, 21:28
So you're saying the essential whole?

Even the essential whole can be perfect, and yet there is no connection. I thinkpersonal preferences only play a part in selecting the people you might consider flirting with, or even the types you would fantasize about. When it comes to love, all those qualities suddenly are nothing but nice decoration of something that you just can't lay your finger on, no matter how hard you try to describe it.
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 21:28
So you're saying the essential whole?

Must be.

Really, I agree with her. It's not just one thing. We humans are very picky in looking for 'the' mate. Some of us just get lucky...

Though I'd call that 'soulmates'...*sigh*
Cabra West
06-06-2006, 21:31
Must be.

Really, I agree with her. It's not just one thing. We humans are very picky in looking for 'the' mate. Some of us just get lucky...

Though I'd call that 'soulmates'...*sigh*

I wouldn't call it that... not any more. "Soulmates" implies that they were made for each other, I don't really believe that. There ar ea lot more factors playing into that.
You just connect differently with people. You might find people you have a very strong connection with. And if you're lucky and the timing and setting is right, you might end up as lovers. But even the strongest connection can break if circumstances won't allow for it
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 21:35
I wouldn't call it that... not any more. "Soulmates" implies that they were made for each other, I don't really believe that. There ar ea lot more factors playing into that.
You just connect differently with people. You might find people you have a very strong connection with. And if you're lucky and the timing and setting is right, you might end up as lovers. But even the strongest connection can break if circumstances won't allow for it

Yes. I think 'lovers' is too loose a term...
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:36
A mix of different kinds of attraction is best IMO *nods*
Quite how would that theory work?


Aww, those sad faces get to me every time : :fluffle:
Well, of course a mix is best. I think it only really works that way, but physical attraction is only a small part. Wit, and thereby charm, are very significant to me. I like my woman to play coy, but never do anything seriously, all of which requires an astounding intellect. Naturally, she must have Cabra's Je ne sais quoi. The most important physical aspects to me: the eyes and facial mannerisms, in that order.

Edit: Oh, if that's the case with sad faces, I'll just stop expressing my sorrow.:(
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:40
Even the essential whole can be perfect, and yet there is no connection. I thinkpersonal preferences only play a part in selecting the people you might consider flirting with, or even the types you would fantasize about. When it comes to love, all those qualities suddenly are nothing but nice decoration of something that you just can't lay your finger on, no matter how hard you try to describe it.
I meant love included with the essential whole. With that term, I mean everything you for which you are looking, not everthing the person in question is. That's what it's about, after all.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:43
Yes. I think 'lovers' is too loose a term...
Not for me, it isn't. But for use in a thread, perhaps. It's open to all sorts of subjectivity regarding its interpretation.
Cabra West
06-06-2006, 21:43
I meant love included with the essential whole. With that term, I mean everything you for which you are looking, not everthing the person in question is. That's what it's about, after all.

Wish me luck in finding such a person :(
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 21:44
Wish me luck in finding such a person :(
I'm afraid I don't have any more luck than you, or I would....:(
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 21:45
I meant love included with the essential whole. With that term, I mean everything you for which you are looking, not everthing the person in question is. That's what it's about, after all.

You know, I don't think it IS based on what you are looking for. Maybe it may start out that superficially, but in the long run, if there is one, it's much more than what you thought you wanted. You are with a person because of who they are, what they, specifically, make you feel. If you are in a deep emotional relationship with someone, then you are constantly learning about them, every one of their quirks, follies, and positive attributes.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:02
You know, I don't think it IS based on what you are looking for. Maybe it may start out that superficially, but in the long run, if there is one, it's much more than what you thought you wanted. You are with a person because of who they are, what they, specifically, make you feel. If you are in a deep emotional relationship with someone, then you are constantly learning about them, every one of their quirks, follies, and positive attributes.
You misunderstood, which happens a lot in conversations with me(ask my friends sometime). I meant what one really looks for, not what he thinks he wants; that's another issue entirely. According to you, I'm in several deep, emotional relationships.:eek: I do that with all my friends. I know what you mean, though. There's much more to it than that. What I mean by what we really look for is that fundamental feeling that you couldn't want anything more in the world than that one person. Nothing matters but that one. Life, death, money, politics, all nothing next to her. Gaaagh! I can almost see her!:(
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 22:06
You misunderstood, which happens a lot in conversations with me(ask my friends sometime). I meant what one really looks for, not what he thinks he wants; that's another issue entirely. According to you, I'm in several deep, emotional relationships.:eek: I do that with all my friends. I know what you mean, though. There's much more to it than that. What I mean by what we really look for is that fundamental feeling that you couldn't want anything more in the world than that one person. Nothing matters but that one. Life, death, money, politics, all nothing next to her. Gaaagh! I can almost see her!:(

*hug*

Just what I meant to say!

You shall find her, not to worry...
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:16
*hug*

Just what I meant to say!

You shall find her, not to worry...
*hugs back*
Oh, good, so I'm more articulate than you.:p
I don't know. I have a funny feeling about it. I'm a more'n a little worried I won't or that I'll miss her and realize it when it's too late. Or that I already have. And naturally, the gods taunt me by endowing me with nearly a vision of her every time I lecture n00bs on what love is like. As best I can, at any rate. But thanks for the sentiment. :fluffle:
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 22:19
*hugs back*
Oh, good, so I'm more articulate than you.:p
I don't know. I have a funny feeling about it. I'm a more'n a little worried I won't or that I'll miss her and realize it when it's too late. Or that I already have. And naturally, the gods taunt me by endowing me with nearly a vision of her every time I lecture n00bs on what love is like. As best I can, at any rate. But thanks for the sentiment. :fluffle:

No, no, you'll be fine. Life's young :D

And anyways, in any case, just make it rich. Then you'llget some gorgeous golddigger at least...

*cries for the loss of feminism at those wretches' hands*
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:24
No, no, you'll be fine. Life's young :D

And anyways, in any case, just make it rich. Then you'llget some gorgeous golddigger at least...

*cries for the loss of feminism at those wretches' hands*
I'm not so sure. That just means I have the rest of my life to lament the irony of my understanding of love. I don't wanna be rich. That doesn't matter. Now that someone brought up the subject *scowls at Cabra West*, I don't want anything but Her (not Cabra West). And spamming here in Generaland, which I would trade for her. I don't want a golddigger. I hate people like that.
*pulls out shotgun and shoots thirteen seemingly random women on the street*
Tweet Tweet
06-06-2006, 22:27
I'm not so sure. That just means I have the rest of my life to lament the irony of my understanding of love. I don't wanna be rich. That doesn't matter. Now that someone brought up the subject *scowls at Cabra West*, I don't want anything but Her (not Cabra West). And spamming here in Generaland, which I would trade for her. I don't want a golddigger. I hate people like that.
*pulls out shotgun and shoots thirteen seemingly random women on the street*

Yay!

Another advocate for true love! I know, I'd give up Generaland for the Gnome, which I do...but what else am I to do with my spare time? :confused:
Ny Nordland
06-06-2006, 22:27
God! people are so cliché....Majority is for personality...
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:34
Yay!

Another advocate for true love! I know, I'd give up Generaland for the Gnome, which I do...but what else am I to do with my spare time? :confused:
Sure am! You don't have to give it up for him, so it isn't an issue with you two.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:37
God! people are so cliché....Majority is for personality...
I, sir, am the epitome of cliché.
*runs off to update signature once more*
Taldaan
06-06-2006, 22:52
So... what about people who I think are attractive but have awful personalities? Or who I think have great personalities but are unattractive?

When people meet someone new, they usually see them before they talk to them. Whether they are attractive or not is noticed before whether they have a good personality or not, meaning that their looks will colour their percieved personality rather than the other way round.

Unattractive people with good personalities are able to salvage the situation after the first impression, but as first impressions have such a large impact they will generally remain stuck as a friend rather than a lover.

Attractive people with poor personalities will make a good first impression, making a relationship far more likely. Whether it lasts will ultimately be down to personality, although the rose-tinted glasses will stay on for a while.

Of course, the ideal is an attractive person with a good personality, but overall the physical attraction is needed to initiate the relationship, and therefore is more important.

While I doubt it works for everyone (blind people being an extreme example, and people on internet forums possibly running it in reverse (something I might look into but probably can't be bothered)), I'm fairly sure that most people are affected by it subconciously. [/probably incoherent and tangled argument]
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 22:58
When people meet someone new, they usually see them before they talk to them. Whether they are attractive or not is noticed before whether they have a good personality or not, meaning that their looks will colour their percieved personality rather than the other way round.

Unattractive people with good personalities are able to salvage the situation after the first impression, but as first impressions have such a large impact they will generally remain stuck as a friend rather than a lover.

Attractive people with poor personalities will make a good first impression, making a relationship far more likely. Whether it lasts will ultimately be down to personality, although the rose-tinted glasses will stay on for a while.

Of course, the ideal is an attractive person with a good personality, but overall the physical attraction is needed to initiate the relationship, and therefore is more important.

While I doubt it works for everyone (blind people being an extreme example, and people on internet forums possibly running it in reverse (something I might look into but probably can't be bothered)), I'm fairly sure that most people are affected by it subconciously. [/probably incoherent and tangled argument]
No, it's coherent and certainly something to be considered, but I think whatever appeals to you most about a person will override to some extent what you dislike. That's you trying to make some sort of connection to feel like someone else relates to you, like you belong at least with that one person. Not everyone who can see takes the first impression to be quite so significant as you might believe, though it does have a subconscious impression. For those who do, they should probably try to consciously work past such pettiness. Personally, I'm more interested in the other things I posted, but can't be bothered to mention again.:p But I will say that they put physical attraction to a side.
CanuckHeaven
06-06-2006, 23:03
That the person, regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, race, species, etc. love you back.

Yes, I threw in species.
Yes, the capacity to love is the greatest quality. Therefore I vote other.
Fascist Dominion
06-06-2006, 23:06
Yes, the capacity to love is the greatest quality. Therefore I vote other.
SEE above posts ^ ^ ^
Define meaning
06-06-2006, 23:41
The only person I ever could truly love has to be at least 450 pounds, eat like a pig, have both male and female sexual organs, a personality of a rock, and an IQ of at least 140 with a serious mental disorder. All of those characteristics are equally important.

*drools*
Not bad
07-06-2006, 00:11
The only person I ever could truly love has to be at least 450 pounds, eat like a pig, have both male and female sexual organs, a personality of a rock, and an IQ of at least 140 with a serious mental disorder. All of those characteristics are equally important.

*drools*

Shame I only have male genitalia.
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 02:13
Shame I only have male genitalia.
LOL:D Do you still have the hat?;)
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 02:24
LOL:D Do you still have the hat?;)

:eek: I thought that 'incident' was long since forgotten!
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 02:53
:eek: I thought that 'incident' was long since forgotten!
Not at all, my dear. I remember the oddest things.:D So, could I trouble you for a post? I wanna see how much your response to matches mine.
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 03:33
Not at all, my dear. I remember the oddest things.:D So, could I trouble you for a post? I wanna see how much your response to matches mine.

You mean an on topic post? :eek:
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 03:35
You mean an on topic post? :eek:
Sure. We haven't hit page 20 yet, or I wouldn't ask.;) That and I'm curious as to your opinion.
Define meaning
07-06-2006, 03:38
Sure. We haven't hit page 20 yet, or I wouldn't ask.;) That and I'm curious as to your opinion.

Stop flirting you two. Grr....
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 03:41
Sure. We haven't hit page 20 yet, or I wouldn't ask.;) That and I'm curious as to your opinion.

Ok, erm....
There are many important qualities for a lover :p

One: Intellectual compatibility, similar values.
Two: Similar stage at life, for example, I don't believe a relationship between myself and a retired man would necessarily work.
Three: Sexual compatibility...
Four: Mutual physical attraction (is that the same as Three? Kinda)
Five: Erm, there might be more... I'm not sure. Could you direct me towards your reply? :D
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 03:42
Stop flirting you two. Grr....

Who said I was flirting? :p
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 03:46
Stop flirting you two. Grr....
I'm afraid we can't do that. It would be out of character. We are married, after all.
Right, TBD?:p
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 03:49
Ok, erm....
There are many important qualities for a lover :p

One: Intellectual compatibility, similar values.
Two: Similar stage at life, for example, I don't believe a relationship between myself and a retired man would necessarily work.
Three: Sexual compatibility...
Four: Mutual physical attraction (is that the same as Three? Kinda)
Five: Erm, there might be more... I'm not sure. Could you direct me towards your reply? :D
Hmm, curious. Explain this "intellectual compatability." What would it entail?
yes, I'll go check to see where it is. Just for you.;) :fluffle:

Edit: Okay, looks like 11 and 12 have my best posts in this thread, but I'll go check again in case I screwed up the numbers.
The South Islands
07-06-2006, 03:53
After reading what has become of my once noble thread, I find my testes in a jolly amount of pain.
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 03:54
Hmm, curious. Explain this "intellectual compatability." What would it entail?
yes, I'll go check to see where it is. Just for you.;) :fluffle:

Erm, did I not already explain myself? I believe I said something along the lines of having similar values?
I guess also things like the ability to have good conversations, reasonably similar level of intellegence (but this is only an issue if there is a HUGE gap, either way, in intellegence).
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 03:59
Erm, did I not already explain myself? I believe I said something along the lines of having similar values?
I guess also things like the ability to have good conversations, reasonably similar level of intellegence (but this is only an issue if there is a HUGE gap, either way, in intellegence).
I thought there might be more to it. But you did just post and haven't had as long to think it through as thoroughly as I have.
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 04:02
I thought there might be more to it. But you did just post and haven't had as long to think it through as thoroughly as I have.

You've thought it through thoroughly?

Can I have a linky, pretty please? :fluffle:
Xenophobialand
07-06-2006, 04:05
Desperation.

Oh wait, you're serious. . .

I would say that the first and foremost quality of a great lover is empathy, namely the ability to understand what you're feeling and change their own actions to accomodate it. From there, I think the next great qualities, in order, are wisdom, intelligence, beauty, and the ability to suck a watermelon through a pixie stick, otherwise known as sexual skill and high libido.
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 04:20
You've thought it through thoroughly?

Can I have a linky, pretty please? :fluffle:
I have a bit, yes, but it's nothing compared to how much I'll have thought about it after spamming this thread for a week.;)

Oh, very well. As I said, my best posts are the ones on pages 11 and twelve, so I'll send you to 11. Please read all the relevant ones. Together, they'll give you the most insight.

Here's the link, dearest: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486278&page=11
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 06:02
I have a bit, yes, but it's nothing compared to how much I'll have thought about it after spamming this thread for a week.;)

Oh, very well. As I said, my best posts are the ones on pages 11 and twelve, so I'll send you to 11. Please read all the relevant ones. Together, they'll give you the most insight.

Here's the link, dearest: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486278&page=11

So, what do you want me to say? :confused:
Myotisinia
07-06-2006, 06:14
Fidelity. Period. After that, all things are possible. But if you don't have that, none of the rest of the things you listed in your poll matters one whit.
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 08:22
So, what do you want me to say? :confused:
I want you to say what you think.
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 08:22
Fidelity. Period. After that, all things are possible. But if you don't have that, none of the rest of the things you listed in your poll matters one whit.
Beat ya to it!:p I said that pages and pages ago.
Peisandros
07-06-2006, 08:44
Looks and personality tied.
Cameroi
07-06-2006, 08:54
MOST important? not being a p.i.t.a. to live with!

=^^=
.../\...
Demented Hamsters
07-06-2006, 08:58
The only person I ever could truly love has to be at least 450 pounds, eat like a pig, have both male and female sexual organs, a personality of a rock, and an IQ of at least 140 with a serious mental disorder. All of those characteristics are equally important.

*drools*
What sort of rock are we talking about?
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 09:09
Well, of course a mix is best. I think it only really works that way, but physical attraction is only a small part. Wit, and thereby charm, are very significant to me. I like my woman to play coy, but never do anything seriously, all of which requires an astounding intellect. Naturally, she must have Cabra's Je ne sais quoi. The most important physical aspects to me: the eyes and facial mannerisms, in that order.

Never doing anything seriously requires astounding intellect? :eek:
Kanabia
07-06-2006, 13:01
Can't do optimistic, but I can be all the others, if need be. But Kanabia doesn't need that

Oh? What makes you think that? :(


(heh :p)
BogMarsh
07-06-2006, 13:02
Other: being a sweet li'l thing ;)
Soviet Haaregrad
07-06-2006, 13:19
Taking it in the pooper.
Damor
07-06-2006, 14:19
Ah, the almighty question. What, in your opinion, is the most important quality of a lover?Starting from average in all areas, I'd say an inprovement in personality would be most favorable. However no amount of personality will compensate for a complete lacking in any of the other areas.
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 15:24
Never doing anything seriously requires astounding intellect? :eek:
Yes, it does. Otherwise, one is being foolish, which I do not find attractive. The difference is the thought. She would recognize a situation and respond in some silly way just for the silliness of it, but have one of those knowing looks in her eyes as she did it. It kinda reminds me of your Not bad joke.:eek:
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 15:26
Oh? What makes you think that? :(


(heh :p)
Simple. You're Kanabia. You have doubtlessly accepted your desolate fate.:p
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 15:26
Taking it in the pooper.

Best. Answer. Yet. :D
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 15:28
Yes, it does. Otherwise, one is being foolish, which I do not find attractive. The difference is the thought. She would recognize a situation and respond in some silly way just for the silliness of it, but have one of those knowing looks in her eyes as she did it. It kinda reminds me of your Not bad joke.:eek:

Gotta agree with Fascist here. It does take a lot of thought and effort to never do anything seriously -- probably more than doing things seriously, but it's definitely more fun. :D
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 15:30
Yes, it does. Otherwise, one is being foolish, which I do not find attractive. The difference is the thought. She would recognize a situation and respond in some silly way just for the silliness of it, but have one of those knowing looks in her eyes as she did it. It kinda reminds me of your Not bad joke.:eek:

:eek:!
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 15:32
Gotta agree with Fascist here. It does take a lot of thought and effort to never do anything seriously -- probably more than doing things seriously, but it's definitely more fun. :D
That's right. Definitely more fun. I like women who can think and always have an overabundance of wit.
Deep Kimchi
07-06-2006, 15:33
Honesty
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 15:34
Honesty

What is this...how you say...honesty? :p
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 15:36
:eek:!
What? Something I said again?:confused:
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 15:39
What? Something I said again?:confused:

Yep, just thoughts of the Not Bad joke :p
The Beautiful Darkness
07-06-2006, 15:40
That's right. Definitely more fun. I like women who can think and always have an overabundance of wit.

You think I have these things? :confused:
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 15:52
You think I have these things? :confused:

Does any woman have those things? :p

*waits for inevitable flaming*
Glitziness
07-06-2006, 15:59
:D

Hit that spot? Did you say that?

Thats what I do.
Haha, said totally unintentionally of course.... *cough*...

And you should see what I do, when my spot is hit... or for my spot to be hit...
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 16:09
Haha, said totally unintentionally of course.... *cough*...

And you should see what I do, when my spot is hit... or for my spot to be hit...

Must...resist...urge...to request...vid...
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 16:38
You think I have these things? :confused:
Course you do, dearest. :fluffle:
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 16:41
Haha, said totally unintentionally of course.... *cough*...

And you should see what I do, when my spot is hit... or for my spot to be hit...
:eek: I do not know how to reply in a manner that would not upset The Beautiful Darkness, so I will restrain myself.
Oh, wait, I've got just the thing.(ignore innuendo)
*coughcybersexcough*
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 16:43
Course you do, dearest. :fluffle:

Leghumping in yet another thread? Well, seems you like to spread it around...
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 16:44
Must...resist...urge...to request...vid...
It's really hard, isn't it?:D Not to request a vid from Glitzy, that is. For educational purposes, of course.:D So all of us n00bs know what to do.:D
I can't take it anymore!!
*explodes*http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/atomrofl.gif
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 16:46
It's really hard, isn't it? :D

I plead the Fifth. Then I drink it. :D

Not to request a vid from Glitzy, that is. For educational purposes, of course.:D

But of course. ;)

So all of us n00bs know what to do.:D
I can't take it anymore!!
*explodes*http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/atomrofl.gif

Silly nooblets. :p
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 16:55
Leghumping in yet another thread? Well, seems you like to spread it around...
I'm definitely not leghumping her. She's my wife, dontcha know?
Right, TBD?:p *nudges*
Cluichstan
07-06-2006, 16:58
I'm definitely not leghumping her. She's my wife, dontcha know?
Right, TBD?:p *nudges*

Such a quagmire of pathetic...
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 19:18
I plead the Fifth. Then I drink it. :D
:D

But of course. ;)
I thought as much.

Silly nooblets. :p
Can't help it. I've never found the right woman for me. But at least Glitzy could make sure I'm well prepared for when I do.:D
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 19:20
Such a quagmire of pathetic...
Yeah, I really am, but she gets the allusion. I like to tease her about it a lot.;)
Fascist Dominion
07-06-2006, 19:35
Yep, just thoughts of the Not Bad joke :p
Oh, is that all?:rolleyes:
Glitziness
07-06-2006, 22:25
Must...resist...urge...to request...vid...
:eek: I do not know how to reply in a manner that would not upset The Beautiful Darkness, so I will restrain myself.
Oh, wait, I've got just the thing.(ignore innuendo)
*coughcybersexcough*
It's really hard, isn't it?:D Not to request a vid from Glitzy, that is. For educational purposes, of course.:D So all of us n00bs know what to do.:D
Haha, sorry guys :D my spot being hit (incredibly well...*memories drift back to a few hours ago*) is something that shall stay between me and Huw ;) I'll just tease :D
Pure Metal
08-06-2006, 01:09
Haha, sorry guys :D my spot being hit (incredibly well...*memories drift back to a few hours ago*)
hahahaha.... subtle ;) :p
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 02:46
Haha, sorry guys :D my spot being hit (incredibly well...*memories drift back to a few hours ago*) is something that shall stay between me and Huw ;) I'll just tease :D
I figured. That's okay. I guess I'll just have to learn the hard way.;)
JuNii
08-06-2006, 02:59
Haha, sorry guys :D my spot being hit (incredibly well...*memories drift back to a few hours ago*) is something that shall stay between me and Huw ;) I'll just tease :D
tease away fair glitz... for we, the deprived, can always seek the refreshing embrase of yonder ice cold shower. :D
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 03:24
tease away fair glitz... for we, the deprived, can always seek the refreshing embrase of yonder ice cold shower. :D
I can't. Cold water has the opposite effect on me when I'm...in the mood.:eek: :( But I'll taket the teasing anyway.
Glitziness
08-06-2006, 11:20
hahahaha.... subtle ;) :p
as if i'd be anything less than! :p
The Beautiful Darkness
08-06-2006, 11:28
Does any woman have those things? :p

*waits for inevitable flaming*

*Generously decided to ignore that comment* :p
Quandary
08-06-2006, 11:41
Other: I'd say it's the ineffable it. The French, who would be the ones to know, can't quite place it either... "Je ne sais quoi"

It is what keeps you forever amazed. It feeds the original infatuation and lives on long after it. Sparkle might describe it, or a glint in the eye. You just keep wondering about it.
BackwoodsSquatches
08-06-2006, 11:46
Brains.....must Have Brains.........
JiangGuo
08-06-2006, 11:50
Persoanlity first for me, then looks, then intelligence.
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 12:33
*Generously decided to ignore that comment* :p
Aww, I was hoping for some flaming.:(
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 12:40
Other: I'd say it's the ineffable it. The French, who would be the ones to know, can't quite place it either... "Je ne sais quoi"

It is what keeps you forever amazed. It feeds the original infatuation and lives on long after it. Sparkle might describe it, or a glint in the eye. You just keep wondering about it.
But you most definitely can feel it, that which hinders articulation, defies words and baffles thought.
"We were looking for it."
"We have been for some time." (that's for you, Darkness;) )
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 12:41
Brains.....must Have Brains.........
And a desire for more brains....just not to eat them....
The Beautiful Darkness
08-06-2006, 12:44
But you most definitely can feel it, that which hinders articulation, defies words and baffles thought.
"We were looking for it."
"We have been for some time." (that's for you, Darkness;) )

"We are the Knights who say NI!
...You must cut down the tallest tree in the forest WITH~ a HERRING!" :D
The Beautiful Darkness
08-06-2006, 12:45
Aww, I was hoping for some flaming.:(

I'm above petty flamming :p
Fascist Dominion
08-06-2006, 12:50
"We are the Knights who say NI!
...You must cut down the tallest tree in the forest WITH~ a HERRING!" :D
*cues suspenseful music*
We make such a great team. *sighs*