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Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:18
it was adam and eve's fault we have sin and go to hell not god's and jesus saved us from eternal damnation as long as we accept him into his heart and being gay isn't a born with thing you can chose you sexuality because he gave us free will if i wanted to i could be gay but that is just not an opinion with me

exactly. He gave us FREE WILL. You seriously don't think he'd do that if he thought every single person was going to follow a certain way do you? Otherwise that's not free will really. With free will, you have to expect that people are going to go a different way then the rest.

Besides, like WC. You're not god, none of us here are. Just because you say they're going to hell, doesn't mean it's going to happen, because you don't know how he really works.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:19
yet you have the want to kill certain people? No offense, but the desire to want to kill someone doesn't come alone. It doesn't just come into you going "Oh, I don't like the way that person is. I dislike them, so I'm going to kill them!!!" It usually flies at you as "Arg, I hate the way these people are, i wish they would just die!"

When you're wishing that person would die, that's the exact same as saying you hate that person.
iam a christian boy so i believe in peace but i am just saying if i wasn't religious there's a strong possibility that i will want to kill them i am not proud of it but i can be a serious ass hole if i wasn't religious
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:19
it was adam and eve's fault we have sin and go to hell not god's and jesus saved us from eternal damnation as long as we accept him into his heart and being gay isn't a born with thing you can chose you sexuality because he gave us free will if i wanted to i could be gay but that is just not an opinion with meFALSE.

You can't choose your sexuality. You could try, you could force yourself, but you'd never be gay. You are born gay. Period.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:20
some people get beat and it's not their fault they just try to make the marriage work but one of the spouses have to be a jackass who thinks he/she is superior and they feel like a man/woman when they hit their spouses
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. That is not my Batman cup!

Seriously dude, are you saying that divorce should not be allowed, even in abusive relationships? Thank God, I've never been in an abusive relationship and I dont know anyone who has, but I always had the impression it wasnt something you can "try to make work". Women are killed by abusive spouses and boyfriends, and you think they should try to make the marriage work?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:20
exactly. He gave us FREE WILL. You seriously don't think he'd do that if he thought every single person was going to follow a certain way do you? Otherwise that's not free will really. With free will, you have to expect that people are going to go a different way then the rest.

Besides, like WC. You're not god, none of us here are. Just because you say they're going to hell, doesn't mean it's going to happen, because you don't know how he really works.
I know i am not god but you can't be a religious homosexual that's mocking part of the bible and that something you can go to hell for
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:20
Oh boredom... I'd much rather just point and laugh at him. He is so pathetic.

Wait, I just read the post that said you're Christian and try to do good things, etc etc. I suppose you will not aid me in relentless mocking? Well, I suppose i shall just have to argue along with you then.

Well I would, but that would be considered flaming, otherwise you'd see the rest of me <_<

And Enyalnairb? What's your view on Paganism/Wicca/etc..? Satanic religion? Or just another religion with no ties to Satanism whatsoever? Just out of curiousity.
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 08:21
iam a christian boy so i believe in peace but i am just saying if i wasn't religious there's a strong possibility that i will want to kill them i am not proud of it but i can be a serious ass hole if i wasn't religiousDamn. I'd hate to see you when you're not religious, because for the past few pages, you've been quite an asshole.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:21
FALSE.

You can't choose your sexuality. You could try, you could force yourself, but you'd never be gay. You are born gay. Period.
no no period you can chose
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:22
I know i am not god but you can't be a religious homosexual that's mocking part of the bible and that something you can go to hell for

The bible? The bible?? Have you not heard me? I could care LESS what the bible says! Why? Because it wasn't written by some divine god, it was written by a human. Which, in my opinion, leaves it open to too many objects, which is why I will never read it.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:22
Damn. I'd hate to see you when you're not religious, because for the past few pages, you've been quite an asshole.
dont worry i will always be religious the non religious side of me could be an asshole but that side of me doesn't exist
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:23
The bible? The bible?? Have you not heard me? I could care LESS what the bible says! Why? Because it wasn't written by some divine god, it was written by a human. Which, in my opinion, leaves it open to too many objects, which is why I will never read it.it's the good book and i go by it
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:23
no no period you can choseSexual attraction isn't something you can choose. You react to what turns you on. It's not a choice. You have absolutely no control over your feelings.
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 08:24
no no period you can choseGo gay right now. I dare you. You'd have nothing to fear because according to you, you could always go back to being straight. ;)
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:24
I know i am not god but you can't be a religious homosexual that's mocking part of the bible and that something you can go to hell for

When did you and God sit down and have the lil discussion where God outlined the offenses that warrant Hell? Seriously?

You cannot be religious and think that certain segments of the population deserve to die.

This conversation is reminding me of the scene in Mean Girls, when they show the weird homeschooled kids, and the boys sitting in overalls without a shirt on in the back of a pickup. "And on the fourth day, God made the AK-47 rifle. To shoot the dinosaurs. And the homosexuals."
The Alma Mater
30-06-2006, 08:24
no no period you can chose

You can choose who you fall in love with ?
Please teach me how ! I always disliked being in love with a girl that did not return the feeling, while at the same time being forced to turn down another girl that did did have feelings for me. Being able to switch my attractions would be marvellous.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:25
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. That is not my Batman cup!

Seriously dude, are you saying that divorce should not be allowed, even in abusive relationships? Thank God, I've never been in an abusive relationship and I dont know anyone who has, but I always had the impression it wasnt something you can "try to make work". Women are killed by abusive spouses and boyfriends, and you think they should try to make the marriage work?
it should be legal but after so many so many years of abuse you should get divorce im just saying people should try to work it out
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:26
it's the good book and i go by it
and yet you dont have the decency to capitalize it...
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:27
it should be legal but after so many so many years of abuse you should get divorce im just saying people should try to work it outThat is the most horrible thing to say.

So I should have to endure YEARS of being ABUSED just to waste my time trying to work something out that has no chance of revival? NO!
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:27
You can choose who you fall in love with ?
Please teach me how ! I always disliked being in love with a girl that did not return the feeling, while at the same time being forced to turn down another girl that did did have feelings for me. Being able to switch my attractions would be marvellous.
Oh lemme in on the secret too!
Emo Haterz
30-06-2006, 08:27
You need a civil union partnership or what ever its called option. I have no problem if two guys or two girls want to hook up, but call it something else. I am not a hard core christian person by any means, but I do believe in the part where marriage is deffined as man and woman. So again call it something else and that would be fine, but dont have it how it is. In my own country, where this law has come to pass(being removed thankfully) 95% of everyone believes in what I am saying. So again, add the third option, or I am perfectly happy on the way I voted, No.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:27
Sexual attraction isn't something you can choose. You react to what turns you on. It's not a choice. You have absolutely no control over your feelings.
you want to no something if i dont want to be turned on i wont be turned on this i have proven to myself with years of training
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:28
it's the good book and i go by it
Good for you. Frankly, I could care less.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:28
You need a civil union partnership or what ever its called option. I have no problem if two guys or two girls want to hook up, but call it something else. I am not a hard core christian person by any means, but I do believe in the part where marriage is deffined as man and woman. So again call it something else and that would be fine, but dont have it how it is. In my own country, where this law has come to pass(being removed thankfully) 95% of everyone believes in what I am saying. So again, add the third option, or I am perfectly happy on the way I voted, No.

In the US we believe seperate but equal is inherently unequal.

I dunno how/if that applies to you.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:30
That is the most horrible thing to say.

So I should have to endure YEARS of being ABUSED just to waste my time trying to work something out that has no chance of revival? NO!i hate abusive people but what i hate more is people who dont stand up for themselves find a bat brass knuckles etc and beat the crap out of the guy if i had a wife and she hit me with a bat i'm going to keep my distance
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:30
you want to no something if i dont want to be turned on i wont be turned on this i have proven to myself with years of training

Are you serious? By this do you mean you used to be attracted to members of the same sex but you trained yourself out of it? Oh my. Perhaps I ought not've mocked so relentlessly. It seems you have issues.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:30
you want to no something if i dont want to be turned on i wont be turned on this i have proven to myself with years of trainingROFL!!!!!

OMG!

And how exactly did you "train"?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:32
Are you serious? By this do you mean you used to be attracted to members of the same sex but you trained yourself out of it? Oh my. Perhaps I ought not've mocked so relentlessly. It seems you have issues.no not like that i mean i am a heterosexual and i always was always will but with enought training of the mind you can do that
The Alma Mater
30-06-2006, 08:32
it should be legal but after so many so many years of abuse you should get divorce im just saying people should try to work it out

Unless the marriage was the result of rape of course.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

No divorce allowed.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:33
i hate abusive people but what i hate more is people who dont stand up for themselves find a bat brass knuckles etc and beat the crap out of the guy if i had a wife and she hit me with a bat i'm going to keep my distanceSo you're scared of a woman with a bat? Wow.

Many females aren't as big or strong as their husbands, so their husbands could easily overpower them. In a situation like you described, a woman attacking her husband with a bat could cause the husband to use it right back on her.

Smart... :rolleyes:
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:33
ROFL!!!!!

OMG!

And how exactly did you "train"?
i haven't really figured that out yet it just happened one day i was looking at some stuff and i felt nothing
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:35
So you're scared of a woman with a bat? Wow.

Many females aren't as big or strong as their husbands, so their husbands could easily overpower them. In a situation like you described, a woman attacking her husband with a bat could cause the husband to use it right back on her. Smart... :rolleyes:well then either become one of them body builder like women or hit him with a car if he can out power a car then get far away
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:35
no not like that i mean i am a heterosexual and i always was always will but with enought training of the mind you can do thatYou were always heterosexual because that's how you were born.

You're full of it again. You said you trained, yet you actually haven't. You're just saying it's possible that people could train their minds to look the other way, yet have given no proof of this.

It's impossible. You can't convert, and you know it. You've always been heterosexual because you were born heterosexual, and you could not choose otherwise.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:36
no not like that i mean i am a heterosexual and i always was always will but with enought training of the mind you can do that

obviously you didn't need training, or you wouldn't be heterosexual. In the end, the heart makes it's own decision no matter what you do. My heart is telling me that I love guys, so instead of trying to ignore and change it, I'd rather follow it.

The only "sin" you can really do is ignore your heart, or try to change what it's trying to tell you. Going against the workings of the heart, that's just sad.
Hamilay
30-06-2006, 08:36
well then either become one of them body builder like women or hit him with a car if he can out power a car then get far away

Encouraging people to run over and quite likely murder abusive spouses? That's... interesting to say the least.
Credibility: -10000 points.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:36
i haven't really figured that out yet it just happened one day i was looking at some stuff and i felt nothingDUH!!!!!!!!!!

You know why you didn't feel anything? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GAY. Your brain told you it wasn't attractive. Mine tells me it is. I didn't choose to be sexually attracted to it, it just happened.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:37
It's impossible. You can't convert, and you know it. You've always been heterosexual because you were born heterosexual, and you could not choose otherwise.
it's not impossible just really hard
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:37
no not like that i mean i am a heterosexual and i always was always will but with enought training of the mind you can do that
Oh thats good. Have you trained yourself in such a way?

Thinks about Mean Girls...
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:37
DUH!!!!!!!!!!

You know why you didn't feel anything? BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GAY. Your brain told you it wasn't attractive. Mine tells me it is. I didn't choose to be sexually attracted to it, it just happened.
i wasn't looking at men i was looking at women
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:38
well then either become one of them body builder like women or hit him with a car if he can out power a car then get far awayYou're advocating murder? Do you think God would advocate murder?

And that is just a silly suggestion. Become one of those body builder woman? Oh gimme a damn break.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:38
Oh thats good. Have you trained yourself in such a way?

Thinks about Mean Girls...what the heck is mean girls?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:39
[QUOTE=Maraque]You're advocating murder? Do you think God would advocate murder?

QUOTE]you don't have to drive real fast
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:39
i wasn't looking at men i was looking at womenYou're not aroused by every picture of a female. It doesn't mean you chose not to be.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:39
well then either become one of them body builder like women or hit him with a car if he can out power a car then get far away
or, instead of trying to hit him with a car, DIVORCE him! Your sect of Christianity supports killing before divorce? Jeez, what religion are you??
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:40
You're advocating murder? Do you think God would advocate murder?

And that is just a silly suggestion. Become one of those body builder woman? Oh gimme a damn break.or you could learn karate that would work too
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:41
or, instead of trying to hit him with a car, DIVORCE him! Your sect of Christianity supports killing before divorce? Jeez, what religion are you??
only divorce if you can't find a way to retaliate
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:41
you don't have to drive real fastRunning over a person at low speeds won't make the situation any less fatal.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:41
i wasn't looking at men i was looking at women

Here's what a friend told me, which helped me discover what I am:

Get a picture of two incredibly attractive people (one man, one woman) in the nude, yes, the nude.

If you get that incredibly special feeling (and you'll know it) by looking at the guy, then chances are, your heart is telling you THAT is the gender that you are attracted to.

If you don't, but get that feeling by looking at the woman, then your heart is telling you that you are attracted to THAT gender.

If you get that feeling from both, then it's telling you that you are attracted to both.

Even if you don't realize it, your heart will tell it for you.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:41
it's not impossible just really hard
LOL, i read this, and i thought he was talking about how he'd looked at some stuff and discovered he felt nothing. lol.
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 08:41
[QUOTE=Maraque]You're advocating murder? Do you think God would advocate murder?

QUOTE]you don't have to drive real fastIt's still possible to kill the guy, and even if the guy lived, doing what you suggested is committing an atrocious act of deliberate violence. I don't think Jesus would do that.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:41
or you could learn karate that would work tooNo it would not. You can know all the karate in the world, if you're weaker and smaller than your opponent you're doomed.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:42
what the heck is mean girls?
A movie starring Lindsey Lohan (written by, i think, or maybe produced by Tina Fey).
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:44
only divorce if you can't find a way to retaliate
violence before divorce? What is WRONG with you? That is preposterous! If you or anyone else is in an abusive relationship, they ought to GET OUT immediately.

I cannot believe we are even having this discussion! Out of curiosity, do you believe women ought to be able to get jobs?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:45
You're not aroused by every picture of a female. It doesn't mean you chose not to be.
you know why because i never know whar sexuality their in i'm not like most men who hate gay men and love lesbian stuff i dont' like that either


if my favorite actor was gay he would not be my favorite
if one member of my favorite band was gay i would not listen to them
if i where given a chose to be thrown in jail or take a head on colision with a falling building i would chose the falling building
The Alma Mater
30-06-2006, 08:46
only divorce if you can't find a way to retaliate

Is the woman allowed to do that according to the Good Book ?
After all, it just considers her property.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:47
violence before divorce? What is WRONG with you? That is preposterous! If you or anyone else is in an abusive relationship, they ought to GET OUT immediately.

I cannot believe we are even having this discussion! Out of curiosity, do you believe women ought to be able to get jobs?yes they should be able to get jobs they should be able to vote they should be able to do anything a man can and most important of all they should be able to fight back
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:47
you know why because i never know whar sexuality their in i'm not like most men who hate gay men and love lesbian stuff i dont' like that either


if my favorite actor was gay he would not be my favorite
if one member of my favorite band was gay i would not listen to them
if i where given a chose to be thrown in jail or take a head on colision with a falling building i would chose the falling building
Whats the last thing about jail or head on collision about???

You really need to rent Mean Girls, dude. Also, while your at it, rent "Saved!" its a damn good movie.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:48
you know why because i never know whar sexuality their in i'm not like most men who hate gay men and love lesbian stuff i dont' like that either


if my favorite actor was gay he would not be my favorite
if one member of my favorite band was gay i would not listen to them
if i where given a chose to be thrown in jail or take a head on colision with a falling building i would chose the falling buildingYou don't have to know the sexuality of the female in the photo to be aroused by it or not. :rolleyes:
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:48
A movie starring Lindsey Lohan (written by, i think, or maybe produced by Tina Fey).
aww after the whole freaky friday i ignor anything with lindsay lohan
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:49
well it doesn't even have to be a picture. It could be someone you know and think you're attracted to. Just imagine them nude the way you want, and see if that works. Fantasize, and write down what you're fantasizing about (of course hide it from prying eyes) and look at it. Usually you can tell just about your fantasies (not to mention those lovely dreams ;) )which you're more attracted to.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:49
You don't have to know the sexuality of the female in the photo to be aroused by it or not. :rolleyes:
i do
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:50
i doHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No you don't.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:50
yes they should be able to get jobs they should be able to vote they should be able to do anything a man can and most important of all they should be able to fight back

Don't get me wrong, I dont think women should roll over and be doormats. I think they should press charges, and seek a divorce, and put the piece of crap in prison. Some women are able to fight back, some women may not be.

I am still in shock that you think a relationshiip where the couple wrestles all the time is a better alternative to divorce. Seriously, what sect of Christianity are you?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:51
well it doesn't even have to be a picture. It could be someone you know and think you're attracted to. Just imagine them nude the way you want, and see if that works. Fantasize, and write down what you're fantasizing about (of course hide it from prying eyes) and look at it. Usually you can tell just about your fantasies (not to mention those lovely dreams ;) )which you're more attracted to.
i couldn't do that i live in a house of 8
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:52
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No you don't.
you wanna try to prove that
The Alma Mater
30-06-2006, 08:52
yes they should be able to get jobs they should be able to vote they should be able to do anything a man can and most important of all they should be able to fight back

...
For someone who says the Bible should be followed you are pretty busy ignoring it...
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 08:53
i couldn't do that i live in a house of 8It's called a bathroom. They generally have locks so that its current user can have privacy. I suggest you use this feature.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:53
you wanna try to prove thatBecause you can not control your mind in that way.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 08:53
aww after the whole freaky friday i ignor anything with lindsay lohan

Well, since it seems you will not see the movie, there is a scene in the beginning where Lindsey Lohan's character says "I know what your thinking, homeschool kids are weird" and there is a little montage of weird homeschool kids. And part of the lil montage is a group of 5 or so boys in overalls sitting on a haystack or by a pickup truck or something, and they one boy says "and on the fourth day, God made the AK-47 rifle, to shoot the dinosaurs. And the homosexuals."
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:54
It's called a bathroom. They generally have locks so that its current user can have privacy. I suggest you use this feature.
my bathroom door is so flimsy it's not even funny
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:55
my bathroom door is so flimsy it's not even funnyYou have an excuse for every little possible thing, it's not even funny.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:55
God made the AK-47 rifle, to shoot the dinosaurs. And the homosexuals."that's just mean
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:56
You have an excuse for every little possible thing, it's not even funny.
hey excuses and lies are what america was built on
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 08:56
you know why because i never know whar sexuality their in i'm not like most men who hate gay men and love lesbian stuff i dont' like that either


if my favorite actor was gay he would not be my favorite
if one member of my favorite band was gay i would not listen to them
if i where given a chose to be thrown in jail or take a head on colision with a falling building i would chose the falling building

wow, you just completely 100% contradicted yourself.

You're not like most men who hate gay men, yet if your favorite actor was gay, he wouldn't be favorite? You wouldn't listen to a band because of one member being gay?

Gotta love contradiction ;)
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:56
Because you can not control your mind in that way.
yeah i can
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:57
hey excuses and lies are what america was built onDoes that make it right?
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:57
yeah i canNo, actually you can not. No one posesses the ability to control their mind to be turned off by something that it renders attractive.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:58
wow, you just completely 100% contradicted yourself.

You're not like most men who hate gay men, yet if your favorite actor was gay, he wouldn't be favorite? You wouldn't listen to a band because of one member being gay?

Gotta love contradiction ;)
like i said before no hatred, disliking
Maraque
30-06-2006, 08:59
like i said before no hatred, dislikingWanting to murder an entire segment of the population is not dislike, it's absolute hatred.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 08:59
No, actually you can not. No one posesses the ability to control their mind to be turned off by something that it renders attractive.
are we going to start a "yes i can no you can't"type of arguement and by the way yes i can no body knows the full potential of the human mind we use only 7 to 10% of it
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 08:59
Seeing as there is no such thing as god.. and religion being bullshit..

Sure, I'll vote yes.

lets hope that they're not married under the eyes of god then?

I vote yes... just cuz

Dont start me on if they want to adopt children though.. whooole other debate
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:00
Wanting to murder an entire segment of the population is not dislike, it's absolute hatred.
you haven't been listening if i wasn't religious there would be a big chance that i would kill them i would never kill a person
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:01
are we going to start a "yes i can no you can't"type of arguement and by the way yes i can no body knows the full potential of the human mind we use only 7 to 10% of itAnd that's about as much as we'll ever use. You can't. Period. End of story.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:02
you haven't been listening if i wasn't religious there would be a big chancethat i would kill them i would never kill a personYou still want to murder an entire segment of the population. Saying the only thing stopping you is religion is complete BS.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:02
like i said before no hatred, disliking

Do you really want me to go back to what I said about your "die faggots" comment? That isn't disliking, that's pure hatred.

If you dislike someone, you would tolerate them still, just with a different look on them.

If you suddenly stopped listening to a band because of a gay member, that's not disliking them. Disliking them would tolerating that (ok, so it's got a gay member), but not letting that get in the way of you liking the band.

However, you mentioned you stop listening to them immediately after finding out. That isn't dislike, that's hatred. You hate that the person in the band is gay, so you stop listening to them for that reason.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:02
And that's about as much as we'll ever use. You can't. Period. End of story.
humans can tap into their full braing potential we just dont know how
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:02
are we going to start a "yes i can no you can't"type of arguement and by the way yes i can no body knows the full potential of the human mind we use only 7 to 10% of it

Yeah Maraque, come on. I mean, didnt u ever read/see Matilda? That girl had telekinesis by using the entirity of her brain. I'm sure Matilda can beat Ms Trunchble, she can stop herself from being attracted to other girls. And if Matilda can do it, so can you! :rolleyes:
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:03
humans can tap into their full braing potential we just dont know howProve it. Please PROVE it!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:05
Do you really want me to go back to what I said about your "die faggots" comment? That isn't disliking, that's pure hatred.

If you dislike someone, you would tolerate them still, just with a different look on them.

If you suddenly stopped listening to a band because of a gay member, that's not disliking them. Disliking them would tolerating that (ok, so it's got a gay member), but not letting that get in the way of you liking the band.

However, you mentioned you stop listening to them immediately after finding out. That isn't dislike, that's hatred. You hate that the person in the band is gay, so you stop listening to them for that reason.
if i tolerate them i like them in some way

and you see this is why i like the band disturbed i didn't know that they had a gay member until i heard they kicked him out because they where gay that is why there one of my favorite bands and just because the rock
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:06
Prove it. Please PROVE it!
Maraque, didnt you just read what I posted about Matilda?

Hey, I'm just trying to lighten things up, since we all know we're right and the kid who cant spell or understand grammar is wrong. I do take the issue seriously. Just not idiots, like the kid we're arguing with.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:06
Prove it. Please PROVE it!
how can i prove it if i just said we dont know how
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:06
Prove it. Please PROVE it!

actually, he/she is right about that part. It's been said by many scientists that we humans do have the ability to tap into other parts of our brain, we just haven't figured out how to do so.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:07
Maraque, didnt you just read what I posted about Matilda?

Hey, I'm just trying to lighten things up, since we all know we're right and the kid who cant spell or understand grammar is wrong. I do take the issue seriously. Just not idiots, like the kid we're arguing with.
listen you are entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine but please for the love of god dont call me kid
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 09:07
humans can tap into their full braing potential we just dont know howProve it. Please PROVE itDon't count on it Maraque. He still has yet to prove that sexual orientation can be changed at will.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:08
actually, he/she is right about that part. It's been said by many scientists that we humans do have the ability to tap into other parts of our brain, we just haven't figured out how to do so. i'm a he
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:08
Don't count on it Maraque. He still has yet to prove that sexual orientation can be changed at will.
it can be done
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:08
listen you are entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to mine but please for the love of god dont call me kid
What would you like me to call u? (Enyalnairb is too weird for me to remember how to spell when im not quoting you.)
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:09
What would you like me to call u? (Enyalnairb is too weird for me to remember how to spell when im not quoting you.)
you can call me mother fucker if you like just not kid or spuirt or boy or anything like that
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:11
Homosexuality Is A Sin. Accept It People.

so is lust - so let’s ban porn & sex

so its gluttony - so let’s ban all fast food joints everywhere

so is Envy - lets make everyone live in the same circumstances look alike so no one gets jealous of the other

so is wrath - so let's sedate everyone

so is greed - so let the government give everyone an allowance, regardless of class or earnings

so is sloth - lets punish those who don’t / can’t work

So is vanity / pride - ban mirrors / don’t praise anyone for anything


and voi la - utopia

....ffs, honestly!!
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:11
you can call me mother fucker if you like just not kid or spuirt or boy or anything like that
ok, henceforth I shall refer to Enyalnairb as The Moron. that isnt flaming or anything is it? I mean, he just said i could call him m-fer and i am not, right? If it is, plz tell me, and i'll stop
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:12
actually, he/she is right about that part. It's been said by many scientists that we humans do have the ability to tap into other parts of our brain, we just haven't figured out how to do so.It's been said, but not done. Therefore it is null and void until it is actually done, or else it isn't possible.

Even if one day it is discovered we could tap into other parts of our brains it doesn't mean we'll be able to command it to stop being attracted to someone.
Gartref
30-06-2006, 09:12
What would you like me to call u? (Enyalnairb is too weird for me to remember how to spell when im not quoting you.)

You can just call him vogonsphere. He's a trolling puppet evading a forumban.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:12
so is lust - so let’s ban porn & sex

so its gluttony - so let’s ban all fast food joints everywhere

so is Envy - lets make everyone live in the same circumstances look alike so no one gets jealous of the other

so is wrath - so let's sedate everyone

so is greed - so let the government give everyone an allowance, regardless of class or earnings

so is sloth - lets punish those who don’t / can’t work

So is vanity / pride - ban mirrors / don’t praise anyone for anything


and voi la - utopia

....ffs, honestly!!dont punish people who can't work punsh the ones who dont work
The Alma Mater
30-06-2006, 09:13
you can call me mother fucker if you like just not kid or spuirt or boy or anything like that

I prefer designations that are somewhat accurate.
Do you fuck your mother ?
Are you under 16 years of age ?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:13
You can just call him vogonsphere. He's a trolling puppet evading a forumban.
who the heck is vogonsphere
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:13
You can just call him vogonsphere. He's a trolling puppet evading a forumban.
Darn. And I was getting so excited about The Moron. Vogonsphere it shall be then.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:14
dont punish people who can't work punsh the ones who dont work

oh ok.. it's only fair i suppose

:p
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:15
dont punish people who can't work punsh the ones who dont work
Your joking right? Because that implies you agree with the rest of the bans/punishments.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:15
ok, henceforth I shall refer to Enyalnairb as The Moron. that isnt flaming or anything is it? I mean, he just said i could call him m-fer and i am not, right? If it is, plz tell me, and i'll stopsee call me a moron i dont care but don't call me anything like kid
Gartref
30-06-2006, 09:15
who the heck is vogonsphere

What? you never heard of him?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:16
I prefer designations that are somewhat accurate.
Do you fuck your mother ?
Are you under 16 years of age ?no and no
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:16
see call me a moron i dont care but don't call me anything like kidIf you're not a kid, what are you?
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:16
What? you never heard of him?
Please please please please please do NOT tell me there is more than one of him.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:17
i hope most intelligent life on here realised i was being sarcastic :)

I dont want to ban any of them... sex is great, i'm vain as hell, and to quote jerry macguire - show me the money
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:17
Your joking right? Because that implies you agree with the rest of the bans/punishments.
no i dont agree with vanity thing
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:17
If you're not a kid, what are you?
a Moron. Duh, Maraque. You seem so smart, but your trouble with this and the whole Matilda concept is causing doubt. lol j/k
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:18
What? you never heard of him?
no not really i joined yesterday
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:18
a Moron. Duh, Maraque. You seem so smart, but your trouble with this and the whole Matilda concept is causing doubt. lol j/kLOL. :p
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:19
If you're not a kid, what are you?
i'm a guy dude man w/e you want to call me except kid
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:19
see call me a moron i dont care but don't call me anything like kid

Why not? You didn't seem to take offense when I called you Kiddo.

That reminds me, you still never answered my question <_<
Gartref
30-06-2006, 09:19
no not really i joined yesterday

Funny... you commented on him specifically in another thread...

vogonsphere is a troll

Trying to throw the suspicion off, eh?
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:20
i'm a guy dude man w/e you want to call me except kid
We get it.

It was you who posted about almost failing english tho, right? Thats why i assumed you were a kid.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:20
i'm a guy dude man w/e you want to call me except kid

what about kidda? - liverpudlian thing
Yazi
30-06-2006, 09:20
Look the idea of gay marriage isn't a new, and it does not matter what the goverment says, its the church that will end up getting the final say.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:21
Why not? You didn't seem to take offense when I called you Kiddo.

That reminds me, you still never answered my question <_<wait when did you call me a kiddo?
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:21
Why not? You didn't seem to take offense when I called you Kiddo.

That reminds me, you still never answered my question <_<
He didn't answer a bunch of mine either. :(

BTW, great nation name, my sisters fave animal is penguins.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:22
who the heck is vogonsphere

So you asked this just a second ago, and now you're making it sound like you know all about who Vogonsphere is...

interesting...
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:22
We get it.

It was you who posted about almost failing english tho, right? Thats why i assumed you were a kid.
srry my english teachers where all bitches and i didn't want to listen to somebody who gives you detention/iss for not having a pencil
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:23
Look the idea of gay marriage isn't a new, and it does not matter what the goverment says, its the church that will end up getting the final say.
Not in the US of A. "Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free excercise thereof." State has the final say, churches wont have to recognize em tho.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:25
srry my english teachers where all bitches and i didn't want to listen to somebody who gives you detention/iss for not having a pencil
You ought to have listened. Its really hard to figure out what your trying to say when you use: incomplete sentences, run-on sentences, phrases twice in a row, etc. I understand you might be tired. But if thats the case,go to bed.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:25
So you asked this just a second ago, and now you're making it sound like you know all about who Vogonsphere is...

interesting...
wait what i'm starting to get confused please explain
Gartref
30-06-2006, 09:25
wait what i'm starting to get confused please explain

You can drop the act, you're reported.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:26
I believe in god. But guess what? I'm also a homosexual.

But look at it this way, I would rather live my life helping out those around me, volunteering at the elementary school to help the kids succeed, and I like to be a good person without having to resort to cussing (unless provoked), or resorting to violence. I try to be as nice of a person I can be to people, having a friendly face, a warm smile, and a friendly attitude.

But, because I like guys, I'm going to go to hell?

Whoa there boy, go back to reality here. No offense, but just because the bible says "Homosexuals will be condemed to hell" doesn't mean it's true. Think about who wrote it, a HUMAN. And guess what? Humans are capable of exaggerating things, or adding things that aren't necessarily true! Can you believe it?!

So no, I don't think I'm going to hell. Try that again in the next life kiddo.

right there.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:26
You ought to have listened. Its really hard to figure out what your trying to say when you use: incomplete sentences, run-on sentences, phrases twice in a row, etc. I understand you might be tired. But if thats the case,go to bed.if it wasn't for me getting a B on the sol test(dont know how) i would have had a 13% grade average
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:27
You can drop the act, you're reported.
for god sakes tell me what act i'm dropping
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 09:27
srry my english teachers where all bitches and i didn't want to listen to somebody who gives you detention/iss for not having a pencilKid, that is no excuse for not being able to type using proper grammar. The correct use of the English language in writing has been imbedded in our brains ever since we we're in Kindergarten.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:27
if it wasn't for me getting a B on the sol test(dont know how) i would have had a 13% grade average

i spot pride... punish.. PUNISH
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:28
You can drop the act, you're reported.

Thank goodness there is only one of them.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:28
right there.
you don't think that part of the bibles true man you might be going to hell
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:29
i spot pride... punish.. PUNISH
13%?? No, thats a grade that resulted from sloth. punish...PUNISH lol
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:30
13%?? No, thats a grade that resulted from sloth. punish...PUNISH loloh shut up it the only subject i was bad at my best subject is math and science
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:31
Thank goodness there is only one of them.
one of who dang it somebody please answer me
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:31
you don't think that part of the bibles true man you might be going to hell
We already had this discussion, remember?? You said people were gonna burn in hell, we pointed out you are not God. You said certain actions would cause you to burn in hell, I asked you when you had the convo with God where God listed the offenses that warrant eternal damnation. So lets skip to that part, since you never did answer.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:32
you don't think that part of the bibles true man you might be going to hell

didn't we just get finished saying that you're not god? You're not the one that decides who goes where. Just because I don't believe what the bible says doesn't mean I'm going to hell.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:33
oh shut up it the only subject i was bad at my best subject is math and science
subjects are math and science
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:33
We already had this discussion, remember?? You said people were gonna burn in hell, we pointed out you are not God. You said certain actions would cause you to burn in hell, I asked you when you had the convo with God where God listed the offenses that warrant eternal damnation. So lets skip to that part, since you never did answer.your gay either get out of that life style or you'll go to hell
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:33
13%?? No, thats a grade that resulted from sloth. punish...PUNISH lol

lol

is it a double sin.. proud to be sloth... i smell burning soles and a branded behind
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 09:33
one of who dang it somebody please answer meWe're thanking our lucky stars that there's only one of you trolls in this thread.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:33
subjects are math and science
yep i am mr 13%
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:35
We're thanking our lucky stars that there's only one of you trolls in this thread.
more trolls you mean i have brethern hooray:p
Cabra West
30-06-2006, 09:35
your gay either get out of that life style or you'll go to hell

Isn't it nice, threatening with imaginary punishments? Cute lil troll...
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:35
now i'm really confused what act do i drop?
Scotsbrie
30-06-2006, 09:36
When you say mariage do you mean like whats in Canada where it is acknowledgemtn of their being together or like a heterosexual union?
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:36
your gay either get out of that life style or you'll go to hell

No. You've got it wrong. Only close-minded arrogant assholes with no purpose except to tell people that they're going to hell are the ones that have a front row seat.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:36
your gay either get out of that life style or you'll go to hell
See, here we go again. What are you trying to say? That I'm gay? Because, actaully, I'm not. I am very female, and very very attracted to males. So, I dunno why you are calling me gay. Maybe you arent trying to, i cannot really tell.

How do you know I'm going to hell, when did God tell you? (PS, I probably AM going to hell, for a number of reasons, but homosexuality couldnt possibly be one, because 1) im straight and 2) im not sure God sends people to Hell for falling in love)
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:36
Isn't it nice, threatening with imaginary punishments? Cute lil troll...
hell isn't imaginary
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:37
No. You've got it wrong. Only close-minded arrogant assholes with no purpose except to tell people that they're going to hell are the ones that have a front row seat.Bravo!!!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:38
See, here we go again. What are you trying to say? That I'm gay? Because, actaully, I'm not. I am very female, and very very attracted to males. So, I dunno why you are calling me gay. Maybe you arent trying to, i cannot really tell.

How do you know I'm going to hell, when did God tell you? (PS, I probably AM going to hell, for a number of reasons, but homosexuality couldnt possibly be one, because 1) im straight and 2) im not sure God sends people to Hell for falling in love)
srry i didn't mean that to go to you
meant it to go to that peguin person
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 09:38
No. You've got it wrong. Only close-minded arrogant assholes with no purpose except to tell people that they're going to hell are the ones that have a front row seat.I agree with Penguin Dictators. My friend's mother who's a Christian minister said the same exact thing. :)
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:38
hell isn't imaginary
I hate to do this, but I agree with The Moron.

Cabra West, Hell is real. Its trying to converse with Enyalnairb here.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:39
hell isn't imaginary

You've been too?... it's great - black ash beaches and searing heat - i'd recommend it for an all over tan
Cabra West
30-06-2006, 09:39
hell isn't imaginary

Prove its existence, then.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:39
No. You've got it wrong. Only close-minded arrogant assholes with no purpose except to tell people that they're going to hell are the ones that have a front row seat.
i'm just saying there's a possibility a strong possiblity when your gay
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:40
I hate to do this, but I agree with The Moron.

Cabra West, Hell is real. Its trying to converse with Enyalnairb here.thank you
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:40
srry i didn't mean that to go to you
meant it to go to that peguin person
Dont apologize to me, I dont give a fig what a closeminded arrogant homophobe like you means or thinks of me. and please, ANSWER the Question: When did God tell you who was going where in the afterlife??
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:41
I agree with Penguin Dictators. My friend's mother who's a Christian minister said the same exact thing. :)
my grandpa is also a christian minister
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:41
thank youLOL. You're so dense.
Cabra West
30-06-2006, 09:41
I hate to do this, but I agree with The Moron.

Cabra West, Hell is real. Its trying to converse with Enyalnairb here.

*rofl
In that case, hell depends entirely on perspective.
If you want to make the lil troll understand reason and compassion, then this might be hell.
If you just want to see how he gets lost in his own arguments, it's fun ;)
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:42
Prove its existence, then.
He will, just by arguing with you. You will then know what its like to be in Hell. Oh the misery!

Man, a Dante-inferno kinda hell would be chock full of cool people tho, wouldnt it? Wouldnt mind spending Spring Break in a few circles there.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:42
Dont apologize to me, I dont give a fig what a closeminded arrogant homophobe like you means or thinks of me. and please, ANSWER the Question: When did God tell you who was going where in the afterlife??
god doesn't tell me anything i'm just saying certain people with certain lifestyles go to hell
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:43
srry i didn't mean that to go to you
meant it to go to that peguin person

And you think I care that you think I'm going to hell? I love the way I am, I wouldn't change it any way.

The only thing I would change would be the fact of getting people like you to GROW UP and stop judging people! That's not your fucking job! Your job as a human is to just get through life. Judging is God's job in case you haven't read that lovely book hard enough. Leave it to him.

If God thinks that I'm going to hell, then I'm going to hell. But just because you say I am, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

(I apologize to everyone for the language, but I'm really starting to get peeved <_<)
Maraque
30-06-2006, 09:43
god doesn't tell me anything i'm just saying certain people with certain lifestyles go to hellWith absolutely no way of knowing that at all.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:43
*rofl
In that case, hell depends entirely on perspective.
If you want to make the lil troll understand reason and compassion, then this might be hell.
If you just want to see how he gets lost in his own arguments, it's fun ;)
hehehehe, yeah thats true.

I just wanted to point, laugh, and mock, but I was told that constitutes flaming. So I try to point laugh, mock, and occassionally raise a point.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:43
*rofl
In that case, hell depends entirely on perspective.
If you want to make the lil troll understand reason and compassion, then this might be hell.
If you just want to see how he gets lost in his own arguments, it's fun ;)i've been lost since way before i turned my computer on
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:44
LOL. You're so dense.
LOL you are my favorite person of this night.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:44
LOL. You're so dense.
LOL you are my favorite person of this night.
Malenkigorod
30-06-2006, 09:47
I don't really see the wedding act as a blessed act, so I can't agree with the religious people who are against it. The only thing I see is that have been opressed during many and many centuries. The less we can do is allowing the ones who want to get married. After all, wedding no longer 'mean' anything. People often divorce (it's their right...), cheat on each other etc... I think we should ban the 'get married' act. That's all. What is it for? Just for the money and the benefits? So let's create something else that we could call 'economical union between two persons'. Or, to preserve the family aspect 'union for family'. If we don't allow gays to get married, so we should ask ourselves what 'getting married' really means in our society. Stop lying! It's not unnatural. From all times, gays were there. The only reason why Holy Bible says 'no' is to make people having children... We all know why the Bible was written isn't it? Nobody here really think that God would like us to do what is written in it? It there's a God somewhere, in my opinion, the only thing he wants is tolerance and love... We don't need Bible's old rules anymore. We have our own laws. Times have changed....
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 09:47
i'm just saying there's a possibility a strong possiblity when your gayI don't believe that. I was raised in a Catholic household and I went through religious education classes and such (That doesn't mean I'm Christian, though.). All of the catechists and priests that I've talked with about the issue of homosexuality and its status in the Church told me that God loves everyone and that gays are loved just as equally and that God created homosexuals and inteded for them to be that way.

Therefore, I find it inconceivable that a loving and caring God would deliberately condemn someone to Hell if they've done nothing wrong, especially if He intended for someone to be gay.
Cabra West
30-06-2006, 09:51
god doesn't tell me anything i'm just saying certain people with certain lifestyles go to hell

So you're implying you are actually the one who gets to decide who goes to this imaginary place of yours? Fair enough...
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:51
I don't believe that. I was raised in a Catholic household and I went through religious education classes and such (That doesn't mean I'm Christian, though.). All of the catechists and priests that I've talked with about the issue of homosexuality and its status in the Church told me that God loves everyone and that gays are loved just as equally and that God created homosexuals and inteded for them to be that way.

Therefore, I find it inconceivable that a loving and caring God would deliberately condemn someone to Hell if they've done nothing wrong, especially if He intended for someone to be gay.

Exactly.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 09:51
If there's a God somewhere, in my opinion, the only thing he wants is tolerance and love...
Quoted for excellence.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:55
With absolutely no way of knowing that at all.you saying i dont know if people are going to hell ok then i agree with you you cant tell who is or isn't going to hell let me just ask you something


say you see a man in his thirties constantly drinks, beats his wife,(runs over her foot with a truck etc) always hangs out with his girlfriend and never provides for his seven kids(sexually harassed five of them) would that guy go to heaven no he wont I know this personally because that's my dad luckily they got a divorce way back i few years ago
he even went to jail for trying to beat up my sister when i was four years old
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 09:58
you saying i dont know if people are going to hell ok then i agree with you you cant tell who is or isn't going to hell let me just ask you something


say you see a man in his thirties constantly drinks, beats his wife,(runs over her foot with a truck etc) always hangs out with his girlfriend and never provides for his seven kids(sexually harassed five of them) would that guy go to heaven no he wont I know this personally because that's my dad luckily they got a divorce way back i few years ago
he even went to jail for trying to beat up my sister when i was four years old

ok, now compare that to a gay man, in his 40s. He has a fairly good job, and he has a husband at home that he treats right, and they have a good relationship. He's living a good life free of intolerance for others, and even though people aren't always tolerant of him because he's gay, he finds a way to get through the day with a smile.

Now who do you think is going to hell? If you say it's the gay man, you're of of an idiot that I thought.
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 09:59
i thought he said his dad was a catholic minister?

*searches thread*
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 09:59
and to think this started out as a gay marriage poll kinda funny when you see how it changed
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:00
and who brought it off track by starting talking about homosexuals going to hell? Hmmm...you?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:01
ok, now compare that to a gay man, in his 40s. He has a fairly good job, and he has a husband at home that he treats right, and they have a good relationship. He's living a good life free of intolerance for others, and even though people aren't always tolerant of him because he's gay, he finds a way to get through the day with a smile.

Now who do you think is going to hell? If you say it's the gay man, you're of of an idiot that I thought.
i'm not going to read the first part because thinking of gay people make my stomach tie in knots for one he is gay so not that religious so probably
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:01
And you think I care that you think I'm going to hell? I love the way I am, I wouldn't change it any way.

The only thing I would change would be the fact of getting people like you to GROW UP and stop judging people! That's not your fucking job! Your job as a human is to just get through life. Judging is God's job in case you haven't read that lovely book hard enough. Leave it to him.

If God thinks that I'm going to hell, then I'm going to hell. But just because you say I am, doesn't mean it's going to happen.

(I apologize to everyone for the language, but I'm really starting to get peeved <_<)
Dont let the opinions of an immature ignoramus who doesnt understand the English language, much less meaning of Christ's message, or the basis of his entire religion get to you. They can be highly irritating, I know, but most people arent like him.

Corinthians 13 WEB

1 If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. Careful, The Moron, you are becoming a clanging cymbal

2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but don't have love, I am nothing.

3 If I dole out all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but don't have love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud,

5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;

6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;

7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will be done away with. Where there are various languages, they will cease. Where there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, even as I was also fully known.

13 But now faith, hope, and love remain-these three. The greatest of these is love.

Love whomever you want, as long as you love with all your heart.

In fact, love even those you dont want to.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:03
i'm not going to read the first part because thinking of gay people make my stomach tie in knots for one he is gay so not that religious so probably

and every time I think about you I want to come over there and slap you in the face for being such a close minded asshole. But sometimes you have to overcome those feelings and try to read and try to understand a point that someone is trying to make.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:04
Dont let the opinions of an immature ignoramus who doesnt understand the English language, much less meaning of Christ's message, or the basis of his entire religion get to you. They can be highly irritating, I know, but most people arent like him.

Corinthians 13 WEB

1 If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal. Careful, The Moron, you are becoming a clanging cymbal

2 If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but don't have love, I am nothing.

3 If I dole out all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but don't have love, it profits me nothing.
4 Love is patient and is kind; love doesn't envy. Love doesn't brag, is not proud,

5 doesn't behave itself inappropriately, doesn't seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil;

6 doesn't rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;

7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will be done away with. Where there are various languages, they will cease. Where there is knowledge, it will be done away with.

12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, even as I was also fully known.

13 But now faith, hope, and love remain-these three. The greatest of these is love.

Love whomever you want, as long as you love with all your heart.

In fact, love even those you dont want to.i love every creature but i just dislike some
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:04
i'm not going to read the first part because thinking of gay people make my stomach tie in knots for one he is gay so not that religious so probablyBeing gay doesn't mean you're unable to be religious!!!! You can be gay and religious.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:05
Being gay doesn't mean you're inable to be religious!!!! You can be gay and religious.

It's true, you can ACTUALLY be gay AND religious in this world! It may not be christian since they basically bash it somewhat in the bible, but there are other religions out there that aren't so intolerant, and are more accepting.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:06
and every time I think about you I want to come over there and slap you in the face for being such a close minded asshole. But sometimes you have to overcome those feelings and try to read and try to understand a point that someone is trying to make.
believe if you are really gay and you came to my house i will move because i wont like resorting to violence if i did resort to that well forget i said anything
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:06
i love every creature but i just dislike some
That is a boldfaced lie, and we both know it. If you love someone, you dont tell them they are going to hell.
Possibly you could argue that you hate specific traits of some people, but you are clearly full of hate.

I need to get some sleep, but before I go, remember, Mr. Gayness is a Sin, "Judge not lest ye be judged"
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:08
That is a boldfaced lie, and we both know it. If you love someone, you dont tell them they are going to hell.
Possibly you could argue that you hate specific traits of some people, but you are clearly full of hate.

I need to get some sleep, but before I go, remember, Mr. Gayness is a Sin, "Judge not lest ye be judged"
i dont judge i tell my opinion
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:09
believe if you are really gay and you came to my house i will move because i wont like resorting to violence if i did resort to that well forget i said anything

You think you can scare me with empty threats of violents? Puh-lease, the way you're sounding, you're pretty much a fucking coward.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:10
Well, he did say he'd run away from an angry female with a bat...
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:10
i dont judge i tell my opinion

Hmm, and yet, Judging and giving opinions go Hand in Hand

interesting.
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 10:11
i'm not going to read the first part because thinking of gay people make my stomach tie in knots for one he is gay so not that religious so probablyI only disliked you before, but after reading this statement, you make me absolutely sick. I don't think I've ever read or heard anything with such a disgusting amount of ignorance, and I've seen and heard some really awful things.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:11
You think you can scare me with empty threats of violents? Puh-lease, the way you're sounding, you're pretty much a fucking coward.
rather be a coward than have skin to skin contact with a homosexual
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:12
I only disliked you before, but after reading this statement, you make me absolutely sick. I don't think I've ever read or heard anything with such a disgusting amount of ignorance, and I've seen and heard some really awful things.
you must have a weak mind or weak stomach to think that is a really awful things and i've seen awful things
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:14
rather be a coward than have skin to skin contact with a homosexual

"Oh no mommy! The Homosexual touched me, I'm going to get his disease!"

That statement is something I'd expect from a child, not someone who claims they aren't a kid.

If you were truly intelligent, you'd know that Homosexuality isn't a disease, it's a choice. If you were touch someone who was gay...nothing would happen! That's right, you could live the rest of your life knowing that you survived the "Gay touch!" Why? Because there's no such fucking thing!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:16
"Oh no mommy! The Homosexual touched me, I'm going to get his disease!"

That statement is something I'd expect from a child, not someone who claims they aren't a kid.

If you were truly intelligent, you'd know that Homosexuality isn't a disease, it's a choice. If you were touch someone who was gay...nothing would happen! That's right, you could live the rest of your life knowing that you survived the "Gay touch!" Why? Because there's no such fucking thing!
i know it wouldn't kill me but i dont know where that hand has been
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 10:16
you must have a weak mind or weak stomach to think that is a really awful things and i've seen awful thingsKid, don't you dare question my intelligence unless you're in a position where you can prove that you can argue your point with logic and without contradicting yourself.

So far, all you've proven is that you're an immature coward of a human being with no respect for anyone's opinions, ideas, and at some points, human lives.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:17
i know it wouldn't kill me but i dont know where that hand has beenYou don't know where anyones hand has been, so do you touch anyones hand?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:17
Kid, don't you dare question my intelligence unless you're in a position where you can prove that you can argue your point with logic and without contradicting yourself.ok you win i dont care just dont call me kid
Malenkigorod
30-06-2006, 10:17
This is the reason why I HATE religions... It's supposed to make us tolerant? But see: it make us divised!
The truth is that most of us are not clever enough to see in Bible, in the Torah and Coran, the only thing we should remind of is that we're equal and should love each other because God love all of us.
I don't practice my religion. I don't know if God is there, looking at me. I just try to live a good life, to make people happy, to help the ones who need it, to defend my opinion ad what I think.
Lots of people do that. Without thinking about Hell and Paradise...
If God created us, He doesn't want us to live for Paradise. If I had created Humans and loved them from all my heart I wouldn't like to see that they can't accept the neighbour's way of life or that they respect what an old book says just to go in Paradise... Isn't it hypocrisy?? (I'm not sure of the spelling...sorry, I'm French...)

We should accept that we're all different. If gays and lesbians can find love like that, it's what is important. Two of my bestfriends are gays. If one of them tell me 'I've found the one I love', I'll be happy. No matter if it's a boy or a girl.
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:18
i dont judge i tell my opinion
Saying someone is going to hell IS judging.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:19
You don't know where anyones hand has been, so do you touch anyones hand?
not everyones even i have limits to what i touch if i know a man has touched another man's johnson i'm not touchng
him
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:19
ok you win i dont care just dont call me kid

So far, I haven't seen a reason why you shouldn't be called kid. With your close-minded opinions and whatnot, you sure as hell have been acting like one.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:21
not everyones even i have limits to what i touch if i know a man has touched another man's johnson i'm not touchng
him...

Right... that didn't answer my question. Next.
Defenestratium
30-06-2006, 10:22
ok you win i dont care just dont call me kidGood. Victory is mine, and on that note, it's 5:21 AM here and I'm tired beyond belief. I bid you all farewell.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:22
So far, I haven't seen a reason why you shouldn't be called kid. With your close-minded opinions and whatnot, you sure as hell have been acting like one.call me anything you like just not kid
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:22
Good. Victory is mine, and on that note, it's 5:21 AM here and I'm tired beyond belief. I bid you all farewell.
ok then leave
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:24
*sigh* The sun is rising. its 530 my time. I pulled an all nighter. So i could sit here an argue with this little twit. And i wouldnt mind, except i need to be outta the house by 10, and its gonna be a busy weekend. And I was so tired earlier tonight, but when i tried to sleep, i could. So I know you thought you were free of me, but you aren't.

Penguin, I can tell talking to The Moron is upsetting you, so I think you should just stop and ignore him anyway. He doesnt deserve your attention.
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:24
later Def, you sound like Stewie when you say that XD

and Alas, you are right, I think I will call it quits for tonight and play some Blue Stinger on my dreamcast ^_^ Good night everyone.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:24
You don't know where anyones hand has been, so do you touch anyones hand?only touching them if i know if they are straight
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:25
*sigh* The sun is rising. its 530 my time. I pulled an all nighter. So i could sit here an argue with this little twit. And i wouldnt mind, except i need to be outta the house by 10, and its gonna be a busy weekend. And I was so tired earlier tonight, but when i tried to sleep, i could. So I know you thought you were free of me, but you aren't.

Penguin, I can tell talking to The Moron is upsetting you, so I think you should just stop and ignore him anyway. He doesnt deserve your attention.
this isn't gonna go on till 10 o clock
Mstreeted
30-06-2006, 10:25
only touching them if i know if they are straight

so do you ask people before you bump into them in the street if their straight or not?.. or do you have superb homophobic gaydar?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:26
later Def, you sound like Stewie when you say that XD

and Alas, you are right, I think I will call it quits for tonight and play some Blue Stinger on my dreamcast ^_^ Good night everyone.
yep
Malenkigorod
30-06-2006, 10:26
you're disgusting....You've no real opinion...That's the most stupid thing I've ever read. An idiot's justification. Hum no, wait, there's NO justification in what you say....
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:26
only touching them if i know if they are straight
What about girls? I mean, girls hands might've touched a man's penis. (that is what its called, you know, a penis. Not a johnon. A dick or cock occassionally, but no one post 2nd grade calls it a johnson)
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:26
only touching them if i know if they are straight

And with that I leave on this note:

I hope the first woman you first offically have sex with has STDs that she gives to you. I hope that you explode and die from STDs, and with that, good night :)
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:26
only touching them if i know if they are straightSo you ask each and every person you shake hands with if they are heterosexual?

I'm done after this, 5:26am and I have work at 8:30.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:26
so do you ask people before you bump into them in the street if their straight or not?.. or do you have superb homophobic gaydar?
I live in Virginia what streets are they really
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:28
What about girls? I mean, girls hands might've touched a man's penis. (that is what its called, you know, a penis. Not a johnon. A dick or cock occassionally, but no one post 2nd grade calls it a johnson)
johnson is just funnier than dick and about the women thing it's natural for them to touch them so as long as they wash their hands i dont care
Skinny87
30-06-2006, 10:28
i'm not going to read the first part because thinking of gay people make my stomach tie in knots for one he is gay so not that religious so probably

They make your stomach tie in knots? Why, exactly? Homosexuals are the same as you or I. They breathe the same air; they bleed the same blood when cut. They have their own worries and fears, and they have their own jobs. Their only difference is their sexuality. Why is that such a horrendous proposition?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:34
They make your stomach tie in knots? Why, exactly? Homosexuals are the same as you or I. They breathe the same air; they bleed the same blood when cut. They have their own worries and fears, and they have their own jobs. Their only difference is their sexuality. Why is that such a horrendous proposition?dont realy know
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:34
johnson is just funnier than dick and about the women thing it's natural for them to touch them so as long as they wash their hands i dont care

right...funnier...I'll never understand moron humor, tis a mysterious thing.

Yes, I'm still here, I decided to stay on for another half hour.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:35
And with that I leave on this note:

I hope the first woman you first offically have sex with has STDs that she gives to you. I hope that you explode and die from STDs, and with that, good night :)ok then bye already
Skinny87
30-06-2006, 10:36
dont realy know

They why assert that they are going to hell? Why spout such horrendous and obviously false falsehoods? Do you even know any gay people? Have you talked to them, drank with them, discussed their sexuality? I urge you to do so, if only to realise that they're no different from you apart from wanting to like their own sex. They can care and love just like you - and wheres the harm in that?
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:37
the original thread was should gay marriages be legalize or something like the so this is my opinion no they should not
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:37
ok then bye already

Yes, I know how afraid you are, because I'm bi, and you're afraid that I might touch you and give you the homo cooties.

But guess what baby? I'm here to stay! So pucker up!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:38
So you ask each and every person you shake hands with if they are heterosexual?

I'm done after this, 5:26am and I have work at 8:30.dont waste time talking to the moron if you have to work go to sleep keep your job make money
Malenkigorod
30-06-2006, 10:38
Why would it be natural for women to tuch penis???? I'm fed up with the women status... what about a lesbian??? I know many lesbians, they are not different... I know a one who is tall, blond-haired, slim, beautiful... All the guys want to have her in their beds, but they don't imagine that she is an homosexual girl.. She has tuched many girls...Would you care? Or not...If you don't why??? Because lesbians are often in porn movies? Because heterosexuals men think it's exciting???? Would you treat a gay and a lesbian in different ways???
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:39
right...funnier...I'll never understand moron humor, tis a mysterious thing.

Yes, I'm still here, I decided to stay on for another half hour.
**Claps excitedly**
I wish the sun had a lightsqwitch. It is too damn early for the sky to be light.

As for Moron humor, they're alot easier to laugh at than with. I generally laugh at them.
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:39
Yes, I know how afraid you are, because I'm bi, and you're afraid that I might touch you and give you the homo cooties.

But guess what baby? I'm here to stay! So pucker up!um please don't
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:39
nice defense there. That was completely pathetic.

*gives Enyalnairb a big wet kiss*
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:40
Why would it be natural for women to tuch penis???? I'm fed up with the women status... what about a lesbian??? I know many lesbians, they are not different... I know a one who is tall, blond-haired, slim, beautiful... All the guys want to have her in their beds, but they don't imagine that she is an homosexual girl.. She has tuched many girls...Would you care? Or not...If you don't why??? Because lesbians are often in porn movies? Because heterosexuals men think it's exciting???? Would you treat a gay and a lesbian in different ways???
i dont like lesbians
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:41
dont waste time talking to the moron if you have to work go to sleep keep your job make money
LOL! my name stuck! Even he is calling himself The Moron!!!!!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:41
nice defense there. That was completely pathetic.

*gives Enyalnairb a big wet kiss*
well if i'm pathedic why are you trying to kiss me
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:41
i dont like lesbians

but they LOOOOVE you! *pinches Enyalnairb on the butt*
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:42
LOL! my name stuck! Even he is calling himself The Moron!!!!!
as long as it sounds kinda cool and has THE in the beginning i like it in school i 'am the B.O.
Maraque
30-06-2006, 10:43
LOL! my name stuck! Even he is calling himself The Moron!!!!!Oh my god. That's so FUNNY! I seriously hope I don't wake my boyfriend... yes, boyfriend ;) up!
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:43
but they LOOOOVE you! *pinches Enyalnairb on the butt*
well dang people are kissing and pinching me i feel violated:p
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:43
but they LOOOOVE you! *pinches Enyalnairb on the butt*
hehehehe

Penguin, may i ask you some questions? (well, im going to anyways, but would u mind answering?) Are you a guy or a girl?
And do you know what ur post count was before you got on this thread?
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:43
well if i'm pathedic why are you trying to kiss me

Because I think we'd make beautiful music together baby *strokes Enyalnairb hair*
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:43
Oh my god. That's so FUNNY! I seriously hope I don't wake my boyfriend... yes, boyfriend ;) up!
are you a boy or a girl
Penguin Dictators
30-06-2006, 10:44
hehehehe

Penguin, may i ask you some questions? (well, im going to anyways, but would u mind answering?) Are you a guy or a girl?
And do you know what ur post count was before you got on this thread?

I'm a guy. And I think it was somewhere around 92
WC Imperial Court
30-06-2006, 10:44
Oh my god. That's so FUNNY! I seriously hope I don't wake my boyfriend... yes, boyfriend ;) up!
lol, i thought you left? anyway, glad your enjoying it. :)
Enyalnairb
30-06-2006, 10:45
Because I think we'd make beautiful music together baby *strokes Enyalnairb hair*
we'd make awful music lets never make music and dont be jealous of my beatles hair everybody want to touch it