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I think George Walker Bush is the best President we've had, he's reformed education, he's struck out at those who threaten our way of life, he's brought faith based initaitives into government, he's appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court; the list goes on.

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Ok look he started the NCLB right? Well where is the funding now hm? NO WHERE! We had to nearly beg congress for the funding to keep up with his new 'standards'. So that shoots the reformed education right out the window.

Now struck out at those who threaten our way of life...lets see.... Now correct my memory if it is faulty but wasnt it Osama Bin Laden that brought down the twin towers on 9/11? Not Sadam. He went in there to avenge his daddy's failure and anyone with half a brain can figure out the oil was a major incentive on that one.

Now faith based initaitives. What about those of us who do not follow his faith hm? You going to tell us that in a RELIGIOUSLY FREE COUNTRY we need to submit to the faith of one idiotic man simply because he feels his faith is better?! Tell me how that lives up to the Freedom of Religion amendment to the constitution. Yes CONSTITUTION. Ergo much much much higher in authority then George Bush.

Saddam Hussein had WMD.

I don't know whether you've ever heard of Ali Hassan al-Majid. He's Saddam's cousin and orderd the chemical attack on Halabjah during the Iran-Iraq, thanks to Bush he's now on trial.

Saddam Hussein had WMD.

where? We went in there, the UN went in there, and OH LOOK NOTHING! Show me an artical from outside the US that says beyond a doubt that Saddam Hussein had WMD. When you can show me that then I will admit I was wrong on that count. However disprove the rest of my statment, I dare you.

To be fair, many intel agencies believed that they were moved to syria and if the words of Saddam's Number 2 Air Chief can be believed, that is where they were moved.

To be fair, many intel agencies believed that they were moved to syria and if the words of Saddam's Number 2 Air Chief can be believed, that is where they were moved.

Why would Saddam's Number 2 Air Chief know where they would be moved to?

Why would Saddam's Number 2 Air Chief know where they would be moved to?

Probably because he was on the Need to know list? I did say IF his words can be believed.

You guys know his no child left behind act, left no one behind except the children.
Children have dumbed down since he was president, and I have even seen people who are incognizant of simple arithemetic!!! There was a seventeen yr old who didn't know how to read, and you know what the principal said, she said"he has made phenomenal progress!!" Bullcrap!!
OH, and, not that that is enough, our country right now is being ruled by a dumbass who said "poor people aren't always our eneies!"
:gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :gundge: :mad: :mad: :mad:

"where are the weapons of mass destruction, bush? "

"Oh, they are in the middle east...
Made you fall for it sucker, gotcha!!"

To be fair, many intel agencies believed that they were moved to syria and if the words of Saddam's Number 2 Air Chief can be believed, that is where they were moved.

Georges Sadas?

"where are the weapons of mass destruction, bush? "

"Oh, they are in the middle east...
Made you fall for it sucker, gotcha!!"

very nice

For everyone on this thread who has defended Bush I say: lovely effort. However some of us will never be able to even remoatly respect the man who said he was the master of low expectations. Or a man who has tried to deny Pagans equal rights in the army. Or has tried to place a discriminatory amendment in the constitution. Or has caused members of our family to die in a pointless war for oil.

"A war on terror is like a war on dandruff. Utterly Pointless."
-Special on Lincoln shown on the History Channel 2006.

"A war on terror is like a war on dandruff. Utterly Pointless."
-Special on Lincoln shown on the History Channel 2006.

Well, it would be all too easy if we could get rid of bin Laden with a good dollop of Head & Shoulders.

"where are the weapons of mass destruction, bush? "

"Oh, they are in the middle east...
Made you fall for it sucker, gotcha!!"

Yes!!,
I really do feel sad for people who try so valiently to defend president Bush. I also do feel a sort of grudging respect for those of you willing to go down with a sinking ship... however, that is exactly what it is, a sinking ship. Mr. Bush is probably one of the hardest presidents in the history of the US to defend, and for that I applaud you for trying; but, the man is an idiot. He has even managed to piss off his own supposed political "allies" by running from the Republican Party's usual Neo-Conservative beliefs to touchy feely "illegal immigrants are nice people" act. It is at the point where Liberals have commented that Bush is pushing their agenda. How any conservative can even think about supporting him is, frankly, amazing to me. The man *will* loose the House and probably the Senate this year as well, and we all know what happens when a President and Congress are of seperate parties... nothing. Which, quite possibly, is worse than him doing something.

Yes!!,
we all know what happens when a President and Congress are of seperate parties... nothing. Which, quite possibly, is worse than him doing something.

Actually, nothing happening would be a grand change.

Actually, nothing happening would be a grand change.

If the president and vice-president were sane then you would probably be right... but, one must question the sanity those men have (if any). I really wont like to see what happens when they start pitching a fit because the agenda they are getting paid... err, the agenda which they support out of the goodness of their respective hearts can't get through Congress (which they incidentaly don't control any more), and all those lobbyists... err, the American people, who "support" them get upset by their inability to get anything done.

Saddam Hussein had WMD.
Another history lesson for you sweetie. Perhaps you'll explain at length who Ray McGovern is, pray?

Pay attention:

THIS MONTH.

Ray McGovern: So I would like to ask you to be up front with the American people, why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary, that has caused these kinds of casualties? why?

RUMSFELD: Well, first of all, I haven’t lied. I did not lie then. Colin Powell didn’t lie. He spent weeks and weeks with the Central Intelligence Agency people and prepared a presentation that I know he believed was accurate, and he presented that to the United Nations. the president spent weeks and weeks with the central intelligence people and he went to the american people and made a presentation. i’m not in the intelligence business. they gave the world their honest opinion. It appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.

Ray McGovern: You said you knew where they were.

RUMSFELD: I did not. I said I knew where suspect sites were and –

McGovern: You said you knew where they were Tikrit, Baghdad, northeast, south, west of there. Those are your words.

RUMSFELD: My words — my words were that — no, no, wait a minute, wait a minute. Let him stay one second. Just a second.

McGovern: This is America.

RUMSFELD: You’re getting plenty of play, sir.

McGovern: I’d just like an honest answer.

RUMSFELD: I’m giving it to you.

McGovern: Well we’re talking about lies and your allegation there was bulletproof evidence of ties between al Qaeda and Iraq.

RUMSFELD: Zarqawi was in Baghdad during the prewar period. That is a fact.

McGovern: Zarqawi? He was in the north of Iraq in a place where Saddam Hussein had no rule. That’s also…

RUMSFELD: He was also in Baghdad.
McGovern: Yes, when he needed to go to the hospital.

Come on, these people aren’t idiots. They know the story.
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And the compliment:
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

why does bush keep macroning about mass destruction weapons even the weapons from the Cold War are still here:mad: :mad: :mad: :confused: :confused:

why does bush keep macroning about mass destruction weapons even the weapons from the Cold War are still here:mad: :mad: :mad: :confused: :confused:
Well, those people we thought we made "friends" with ... even though a few of them are roaming around without much tracking. :eek:

It's because Bush's whole directive as a public entitty is to keep people's eye off the ball.
For example:
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
:mad:

Yeah anyone want to tell me how we went from Bin Laden to Sadam? I would love to have someone explain that one in a way that makes sense.

*Snip*


You know, I hate Rumsfeld allot. But I'm at least a little happy that he at least let McGovern speak his mind, I bet Bush or Dick would have had secret Service people dragging his ass out the back door.

You know, I hate Rumsfeld allot. But I'm at least a little happy that he at least let McGovern speak his mind, I bet Bush or Dick would have had secret Service people dragging his ass out the back door.
That is true. The transcript/video DOES keep that on there.
I just can't understand how they can possibly believe that people AREN'T taping them these days. :confused:
Unless, obviously ... they just don't give a phat ph*ck.
Then they really shouldn't get so moddamned pissed about it every time someone calls' em.

Yeah anyone want to tell me how we went from Bin Laden to Sadam? I would love to have someone explain that one in a way that makes sense.
Don't ask the rightwingers, you'll end up with EVEN MORE questions, and one answer that won't be a happy one. :(

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Don't ask the rightwingers, you'll end up with EVEN MORE questions, and one answer that won't be a happy one. :(

Saddam was harboring al-Qaeda operatives and possessed WMDs.

Saddam was harboring al-Qaeda operatives and possessed WMDs.
Read harder. I've debunked one of those points and the other was laughable, and you never even provided a single link source. Read me up on the archives if you have to.
Other than that, airtight! :rolleyes:

How many posts ago?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11057100&postcount=265
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Saddam was harboring al-Qaeda operatives and possessed WMDs.


Did we not just cover the WMD thing? Give me a source that fits my specifications and I will believe you. However you have yet to give me that souce and no WMDs have turned up anywhere but in Bush's mind. as for the al-Qaeda operatives....again give me a proven source. If you want to make statments back it up.