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Sure, if you consider them .0000425% responsible.
Would you consider members of the German Nazi Party during World War II each .0000425% responsible for the holocaust? If so, what exactly would that level of responsibility merit? Or do you believe it to be negligible?

Ha! Like I have any friends to talk to. My parents would just remeber it and start yelling at me for bringing it up. And I doubt they'd take me to a shrink, as I would have to tell them why, resulting in the previous sentence.

You don't have to tell your parents. I've been to various departments by myself, at the hospital, without notifying my parents... "just popping out to the library," or "going round Emma's house", etc.

I actually went to see a psychiatrist myself, because I was worried my father beating me up had induced brain damage (I get "illusions" which are kinda like hallucinations, but more like distortions of real things)... they sorted it out, made sure i wasn't schizophrenic, yada yada yada... meanwhile I just told my parents my prime concern was "that accident in France where I hit my head really badly"... which did happen, but wasn't the main reason...

Sure, if you consider them .0000425% responsible.
Yes, but all those votes add up. If no one votes, then no laws will be passed, no one elected.

There's always Elizabeth. :D
*cough*Big, strong, assholio of a protective boyfriend*cough*

As I pointed out, there is at this point no "legal responsibility" for having any particular opinion, so that's completely irrelevant.

Nope, sorry.

Too bad you almost sounded reasonable til you blew it with that nonsense.

Maybe when you have children and have to answer for them you'll realize what kind of world you live in.

No, no no, there are secret lairs full of poor enslaved white collat worker penguins who have none of the fineries and all wear flat caps, you just never see those because the penguin bourgeoisie keep them underground in places like Kulat Nunat to work and power their evilly masterminded contraptions.

I'm sure there was something about it in Nation Geographic, you may have missed it...

Poor slave penguins. :( Maybe they will rise up in a violent revolution and created a utopian penguin world.

No, no no, there are secret lairs full of poor enslaved white collat worker penguins who have none of the fineries and all wear flat caps, you just never see those because the penguin bourgeoisie keep them underground in places like Kulat Nunat to work and power their evilly masterminded contraptions.

I'm sure there was something about it in Nation Geographic, you may have missed it...
No, no, no! That was a secret, remember? Damn, now we have to take some protective measures! *grumble*

You intentionally left me out! :eek:

I feel sad now. :(
:(
*slips Ladamesansmerci a cherry-flavoured cookie and a note concerning the status of the Penguin Conspiracy*

There, hope that makes you feel better.

:p

You don't have to tell your parents. I've been to various departments by myself, at the hospital, without notifying my parents... "just popping out to the library," or "going round Emma's house", etc.

I actually went to see a psychiatrist myself, because I was worried my father beating me up had induced brain damage (I get "illusions" which are kinda like hallucinations, but more like distortions of real things)... they sorted it out, made sure i wasn't schizophrenic, yada yada yada... meanwhile I just told my parents my prime concern was "that accident in France where I hit my head really badly"... which did happen, but wasn't the main reason...
Since I never leave the house alone anyways, and I also doubt they would let me leave the house alone, there would be no reason for me to leave the house. So that is thrown out the window.

No, no no, there are secret lairs full of poor enslaved white collat worker penguins who have none of the fineries and all wear flat caps, you just never see those because the penguin bourgeoisie keep them underground in places like Kulat Nunat to work and power their evilly masterminded contraptions.

I'm sure there was something about it in Nation Geographic, you may have missed it...
Lets protest! Equality for all penguins!


Back on topic:
Amarnaiy - is there anyone...in your family or otherwise...that you can trust and talk to?

Yes, but all those votes add up. If no one votes, then no laws will be passed, no one elected.
Or if one person votes somebody will win by a landslide.

Would you consider members of the German Nazi Party during World War II each .0000425% responsible for the holocaust? If so, what exactly would that level of responsibility merit? Or do you believe it to be negligible?

Negligible, I suppose. Simply for the fact that it would be impractical to apply a fitting response to all who take a share in that responsibility. Course, there'd likely be some more influential than others, but I can't say I know exactly how the politics of the Holocaust went.

Well...Would you like to assist us now?

No friggin' way! I'm helping the bourgeosie penguins! They look prettier. I don't even know what your oppressed penguins look like.

Someone had to speak out! It has been too long, brothers,

Think of the penguins!!!

seeme like potarius has got the good advice on this one. unless it gets really really horribly abusive stick it out cuz there's not much else you can do. also anyone that said you should find some other adult who's not your parents or not likely to side with your parents to talk to have the right idea. also childline or your local equivalent.

Nope, sorry.

Too bad you almost sounded reasonable til you blew it with that nonsense.

Maybe when you have children and have to answer for them you'll realize what kind of world you live in.

You know, you could actually try to have an argument.

Thirteen or thirty, you break no law by having a certain opinion.

WHAT?!?! He never said his opinions from his teenage years weren't valid! Ok man, just shut up. Just because we're children doesn't mean we're nieve, stupid, and politically unaware. And you just now said that some opinions from when you were a child you still hold dear! YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOURSELF! And I do believe I am held responsible for my opinion plenty of times. I'm a communist. I'm responsible for being a communist. I'm pro-choice. I'm responsible for being pro-choice.

in all honesty when I was 13 I would of said the same thing and I already know you will respond to this badly but remember this advice I wish I had it when I was young because you only realise it when its gone: “go outside have some fun and above all fall in love“ may sound cheesy but I turned down all of the above when I was our age not realising what I was throwing away

Which reminds me "if you ever read this Lisa I loved you too I wish I had spent more time with you instead of wasting my time playing RA2" in fact I'm going to call her now and say just that (NS = happy)

Yes, but all those votes add up. If no one votes, then no laws will be passed, no one elected.

Which is why dictatorships never pass laws? Someone'd just take power, or they'd just leave the encumbent/status quo.

Since I never leave the house alone anyways, and I also doubt they would let me leave the house alone, there would be no reason for me to leave the house. So that is thrown out the window.
Wasn't there already a thread about how you have a terrible life and there is no possible way of you ever getting outside help at any time forever + infinity X a million?

I think it could be called mental and verbal abuse. Because I sometimes get scared to go home from school because of something I "did". My mom once accused me of stealing from her. She screamed and screamed at me calling me a thief. I went downstairs to clean the kitchen, to get away from her. She'd lost a 20. It was under the crock pot.

Sounds like something I've experienced with my mother a few times. She can screech pretty bad, like a vulture, actually. I guess I retract my previous statement; I can see where you're coming from. But I really advise you to ride it out... after thinking about it, even child services will be better than running away.

No friggin' way! I'm helping the bourgeosie penguins! They look prettier. I don't even know what your oppressed penguins look like.

>_> Well, you can't hardly see the dirt, it's mostly on the black part.

No friggin' way! I'm helping the bourgeosie penguins! They look prettier. I don't even know what your oppressed penguins look like.

They may be prettier, but they'd never talk to you - can't associate with the proles y'know...

Awesome-ness! I GET COOKIES!!!!! :D
No. gimme.

seeme like potarius has got the good advice on this one. unless it gets really really horribly abusive stick it out cuz there's not much else you can do. also anyone that said you should find some other adult who's not your parents or not likely to side with your parents to talk to have the right idea. also childline or your local equivalent.

What's this?

R-E-C-O-G-N-I----Tion?? I never would've thought... :p

Wasn't there already a thread about how you have a terrible life and there is no possible way of you ever getting outside help at any time forever + infinity X a million?

Good point! Stop hajacking here Rit!

(Yes, I know it's mostly my fault, keep that quiet.)

No friggin' way! I'm helping the bourgeosie penguins! They look prettier. I don't even know what your oppressed penguins look like.
Excellent :D

Negligible, I suppose. Simply for the fact that it would be impractical to apply a fitting response to all who take a share in that responsibility. Course, there'd likely be some more influential than others, but I can't say I know exactly how the politics of the Holocaust went.
I'm confused. If you think that their level of involvement was negligible, then you would not be concerned with altering the votes of any individuals who could conceivably elect an anti-semitic, fascist regime today?

:(
*slips Ladamesansmerci a cherry-flavoured cookie and a note concerning the status of the Penguin Conspiracy*

There, hope that makes you feel better.

:p

w00t! More cookies, along with information. It does make me feel better. :fluffle:

My sympathy to the penguins.

I have to catch a chopper to JFK and when I finally get off a plane tomorrow i'll check back see if the kid or the penguins have made any progress.

Don't cut yourself, you got free room and board if you keep your mouth shut around them.

Hopefully some day peace but if you have to endure, be comfortable.

in all honesty when I was 13 I would of said the same thing and I already know you will respond to this badly but remember this advice I wish I had it when I was young because you only realise it when its gone: “go outside have some fun and above all fall in love“ may sound cheesy but I turned down all of the above when I was our age not realising what I was throwing away

Which reminds me "if you ever read this Lisa I loved you too I wish I had spent more time with you instead of wasting my time playing RA2" in fact I'm going to call her now and say just that (NS = happy)

Please tell me this is a third Lisa I don't know of.

Good point! Stop hajacking here Rit!

(Yes, I know it's mostly my fault, keep that quiet.)
Woot, I made a point!
And it was a good one!
*tears of joy*

They may be prettier, but they'd never talk to you - can't associate with the proles y'know...

But what if I was one of them? Then they'd have to talk to me, right?

Since I never leave the house alone anyways, and I also doubt they would let me leave the house alone, there would be no reason for me to leave the house. So that is thrown out the window.

It's only thrown out of the window if you let it be.

If you don't ever go out alone, try it in small amounts first. To the high street to post a letter, buy some sweets, see a friend. If they don't trust you, invite them with you. That develops a basis from where you can realistically explore further, and by yourself, getting you to some real help.

Alternatively, phone ChildLine, or a similar service, for ideas.

No. gimme.

Are you just here for the cookies?

I'm confused. If you think that their level of involvement was negligible, then you would not be concerned with altering the votes of any individuals who could conceivably elect an anti-semitic, fascist regime today?

Huh? Why would I alter votes? Isn't that the sort of thing that happens after the fascist regime? And, they already can/have here, looking at Bush and Congress.

Please tell me this is a third Lisa I don't know of.

eh?

Are you just here for the cookies?
Aren't we all?

Alternatively, phone ChildLine, or a similar service, for ideas.
Number?

I think it could be called mental and verbal abuse. Because I sometimes get scared to go home from school because of something I "did". My mom once accused me of stealing from her. She screamed and screamed at me calling me a thief. I went downstairs to clean the kitchen, to get away from her. She'd lost a 20. It was under the crock pot.
you have a telegram

What's this?

R-E-C-O-G-N-I----Tion?? I never would've thought... :p

Potarius is the smartest guy on NS, with the best looks, best personality, best fashion sense, and best manners? How's that for recognition? :p

(ps, this is a thank you for the cookies. ;) )

But what if I was one of them? Then they'd have to talk to me, right?

nouveau riche - they have high standards, you need to have been a member of the penguin borgouisie for at least three generations from egg, plus be part of an exclusive ice-club. I tried to get into one but I was far too tall...shame really

w00t! More cookies, along with information. It does make me feel better. :fluffle:
Well, if at least one person feels better after reading this thread, my work here is done.
:fluffle:

eh?

Not really serious, but I know one Lisa, and if it's her I question your taste. The second happens to be here on NS.

Number?

Childline's a UK thing only methinks...

Huh? Why would I alter votes? Isn't that the sort of thing that happens after the fascist regime? And, they already can/have here, looking at Bush and Congress.
You wouldn't care if your country became a neo-nazi fascist dictatorship? If that sort of thing was about to happen democratically, then I would certainly try to do something about it.

Are you just here for the cookies?

And the spoiled booze in my grandma's stash.

Childline's a UK thing only methinks...
Crap.

Please tell me this is a third Lisa I don't know of.
wtf?????

Potarius is the *smartest guy on NS, with the best looks, best personality, best fashion sense, and best manners? How's that for recognition? :p

(ps, this is a thank you for the cookies. ;) )

The bolded ones are right on the money. The one with the asterisk is debatable. :p

Number?

This is only for if you're in the UK:

Childline: 0800 1111
NSPCC: 0808 800 5000

I don't know where you live.

Have you not tried seeking help from places like this?

Are you just here for the cookies?
Yes.. but what the hell! I'll give my advice.

I think I read the OP..

If you run, you will only make an ass out of your self and give your parents more reason to accuse you of things. Sure they're assholes but hey, fuck em. Just ignore them and move on.. my mom found a tinfoil pipe in my room about a year ago.. nothing came from it.. it went away.. blah blah.. They forget.. they move on. Just make them happy, some how.

And La Dame; http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Choose_wisely.....

You wouldn't care if your country became a neo-nazi fascist dictatorship? If that sort of thing was about to happen democratically, then I would certainly try to do something about it.

When did I say that? I'd care, but I'm not about to go out putting .0000425% of the blame on every person who voted for it.

And the spoiled booze in my grandma's stash.
I'll take that too.

Number?
Google (www.google.com) is your friend.

This is only for if you're in the UK:

Childline: 0800 1111
NSPCC: 0808 800 5000

I don't know where you live.

Have you not tried seeking help from places like this?
I live in the US. I would try to go to child services etc., but as said before, I cannot leave the house, even if I asked my parents. And my parents don't have a phonebook, so I couldn't get the number from that.

This is only for if you're in the UK:

Childline: 0800 1111
NSPCC: 0808 800 5000

I don't know where you live.

Have you not tried seeking help from places like this?

And if you want them to actually be able to get into your home, then make sure they know there is something like a dog that is also being abused. I wish I could make this stuff up...

Crap.

Hey, don't worry, there are lots of US organisations to help.

You just need to research on the computer, e.g.

National child abuse Hotline
1-800-4-A-CHILD

By the way, if you are to research more on this topic, remember to clear your internet history and cookies, in internet preferences/options. I don't mean to patronise, but I myself have been caught out this way.

wtf?????

I think I explained that. >_>; If you get a call from someone saying he always loved you, it was that guy.

And the spoiled booze in my grandma's stash.
*Hickup*
Hm? What?

(Oh, and this is also an example of why any advice read on this board should be approached with a tiny grain of salt. :p )

Aren't we all?

Then everybody gets cookies! *spreads the joy of cookies around*

Then everybody gets cookies! *spreads the joy of cookies around*

mmmm, garibaldis :D

OP and Naliitr: http://www.siari.co.uk/Helplines/Helplines+UK+Hotlines+USA.htm

nouveau riche - they have high standards, you need to have been a member of the penguin borgouisie for at least three generations from egg, plus be part of an exclusive ice-club. I tried to get into one but I was far too tall...shame really

Well, I live in Canada, so the ice-club is a given...but penguinn borgouisie for 3 generations? eh...that's a bit debatable, since I'm only 2 and a half generations...

I live in the US. I would try to go to child services etc., but as said before, I cannot leave the house, even if I asked my parents. And my parents don't have a phonebook, so I couldn't get the number from that.
Google (www.google.com) to the rescue!

Then everybody gets cookies! *spreads the joy of cookies around*
*takes the cookie with the calming drug mixed in*

And if you want them to actually be able to get into your home, then make sure they know there is something like a dog that is also being abused. I wish I could make this stuff up...

England is crazy for this stuff. They won't arrest someone who has beaten the crap out of you (with evidence to prove it), but a dog getting mistreated makes the headlines.

Then everybody gets cookies! *spreads the joy of cookies around*

With an attitude like that, you know you want to join us. :fluffle:

I live in the US. I would try to go to child services etc., but as said before, I cannot leave the house, even if I asked my parents. And my parents don't have a phonebook, so I couldn't get the number from that.

Yellow pages (http://www.yellow.com/)
White Pages (http://www.whitepages.com/10583/?source=GO000009&KW=white_pages)

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.

Then everybody gets cookies! *spreads the joy of cookies around*
Mmmm... Cookies :fluffle:

The bolded ones are right on the money. The one with the asterisk is debatable. :p

Not the fashion sense and manners? Damn...:( And here I thought I was telling the Great Old Truth...:p

Not really serious, but I know one Lisa, and if it's her I question your taste. The second happens to be here on NS.

Ratz I thought I could avoid her finding out that I had feelings for her *shakes fists at emotions*

Snip

I have never had a cooking before *cries*

And La Dame; http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Choose_wisely.....

The link doesn't work.

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.

I'm picking up bad soap opera vibes...Except you're not fitting the dysfunctional role you normally would. Anyhow, the like to child helpline/s in the US was just posted, check that out. They're better qualified.

I think I explained that. >_>; If you get a call from someone saying he always loved you, it was that guy.
What guy? I'm so confused. :confused:

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.
the way you put it it looks like they are just trying to protect you. though it can seem like that's not what they are doing.

*Hickup*
Hm? What?

(Oh, and this is also an example of why any advice read on this board should be approached with a tiny grain of salt. :p )

A tiny grain? Thanks to us, a whole truck full is not going to rescue this baby now.

What guy? I'm so confused. :confused:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10871019&postcount=266

Second paragraph, specifically.

SNIP

well they thought you were doing drugs and your friend died (it affect people trust me) I think they were actually quite reasonable I know I would of lost it and beat the crap out of you for having a lighter at your age (admittedly I would regret it later and apologise…please don’t tell social services)

A tiny grain? Thanks to us, a whole truck full is not going to rescue this baby now.

We should have plently. Salt trucks always ready here in MI.

mmmm, garibaldis :D

not syphillis? I'm ashamed of you. :p

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.
Oh ya, that. Sorta forgot about you there, sorry. I'd say running should be your last choice, if all else fails. What might be better is to try and pacify your parents, try and go along with them and generally try to keep yourself off their radar. That way you get the roof over your head and food and an education with a minimum(hopefully) of stress and conflict.
If that doesn't work try and get advice from organisations that specialise in situations of child abuse. Which NS is not. But I guess we're better than nothin.

A tiny grain? Thanks to us, a whole truck full is not going to rescue this baby now.
*Invests heavily in Acme Salt Inc*
*Orders a shipload of salt c/o NS General*

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.

Ah jeez, this sounds exactly like what my dad does. Now, he's not like that all the time, but he still does this crap often.

Ratz I thought I could avoid her finding out that I had feelings for her *shakes fists at emotions*

I have never had a cooking before *cries*

*pat pat* Don't worry. There will be plenty of cookies from now on. Who is this "Lisa" you are referring to anyway? Just out of curiosity.

If they're trying to protect me, they should really listen when I try and say something like "Mom, the sixth graders are calling me Satan again..." or "Marc shoved me into a table again."

The link doesn't work.
Click the link and then stop it and add "....." then load it.. sorry, didn't notice that.

If they're trying to protect me, they should really listen when I try and say something like "Mom, the sixth graders are calling me Satan again..." or "Marc shoved me into a table again."
People call you Satan? Wow, and I thought Lunatic Goofballs was crazy, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard a person called.

*Invests heavily in Acme Salt Inc*
*Orders a shipload of salt c/o NS General*

Where would they dump it?

"Mom, the sixth graders are calling me Satan again..."
That's nothing for your parents to defend you against...

That's nothing for your parents to defend you against...
I know. But they ask me how my day was, and how things went with people, so I tell them. Then they're like 'Wonderful dear, go clean something to cheer me up."

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.

Dad: -shouting downstairs- ____, come upstairs!
Me: Why?
Dad: Because I wanna talk to you!
Me: About what?
Dad: Just do it!
Me: -proceeds to go upstairs and get a lecture about how bad DOS is and how bad it is that I have a lighter for wax seals on letters (This involves being told about how all people who are 'abominations' have anger management problems and how they don't deserve the stuff they have.)- Can I go back downstairs?
Dad: Fine.
Me: -waits in kitchen- -hears much about parents not wanting me to hang out with my best friend because they think that she's a druggie or something-
-later-
Me: -walks upstairs- Mom, are my sisters asleep?
Mom: Ask dad, he's outside.
Me: Dad, are my sister's asleep?
Dad: I think so.

Anyways, this is just what they do all the time, except that today was relatively simple. Simple. They lecture, scream, shout, threaten, play victim, then act like nothing happened. Then blame it on my mom's depression.

If it's not depression, it's stress. If it's not stress, it's that they were abused as a child.

Your parents can come up with reasons til the sun explodes, but that doesn't justify their negative effect on your emotional well-being.

There are better ways for them to take out stress or depression, for example a punching bag, or yoga - whatever does it that doesn't ruin the lives of others. Taking it out on you is selfish.

When I was (severely) depressed, I had the decency not to scream and threaten others, because (through being very emotionally aware at that point) I recognised it would hurt them.

Introducing the fine line between cruelty and kindness...

EDIT: Maybe encourage them to take up something like meditation... say something along the lines of, "you need a break, you're working so hard" blah blah, and say, "take some time out, reflect, meditate - it's brilliant"... that you're doing it etc. etc... and sweeten it with, "i'll wash the dishes" or something pacifying. It could work wonders with calming them down and also improving you in their esteem?

Where would they dump it?

On Natliir?

On Natliir?
Please do, I'm getting a headache and I can't even HEAR him.

Of course, teen anguish! How could I have forgotten? -whacks self- By the way, I'm a girl.

To be honest with you, I don't think my parents are that overprotective. They let me go out on the weekends, they don't really watch my grades or the people I hang out with.

What they do do is make my mom out to be the victim because she has asthma and had cancer. She seems to be always sick and telling us what to do, and complaining she's fat and that we have no money when she sits on the couch all day and doesn't have a real job.

They tell me that they think I'm a useless waste of money. They tell me that I'm an abomination against Christ (I am a Christian), they try and force themselves down my throat. I really can't stand this very much longer. They refuse to even admit that I have depression. Which my doctor and my psychiatrist say I do.

Hey I know how you feel. But My mom is really insane she has been to a mental hospital and is Bi-Polar or something like that. And I tried to run away when I was 13 when around the time My step dad lost his Job(Which my mom talk him into it) and he didnt have a job for almost a year.(Leaving us broke alot)

Well I am 14 now just turned 14. and I think about killing my self and runing away. Those thoughts drive me insnane.

I guess I am just gonna have to wait until I am 18 to help solve my problems...But in the mean time you just have to do the best you can.
I know how you feel.

I dont like my parents at all Infact I just can't wait to get away from them but just think about this..

Do you Love your parents even if they dont love you.

You are still unsure about running away or what ever you want to do. Thats why you are still their.

Try to find some help make running away your last resort.

Try a teen help site(Message board)?? Maybe that is not corny.

That's nothing for your parents to defend you against...
It is and it isn't. If it's something serious (eg. calling you Satan in a Christian school) and you haven't done anything to deserve it, they should probably have a talk with some teacher/person in charge of the ones doing the name-calling. If it's just sixth-graders being stupid and trying to make themselves look better by slandering someone else, it's pointless unless they move to bigger words or actions.

*pat pat* Don't worry. There will be plenty of cookies from now on. Who is this "Lisa" you are referring to anyway? Just out of curiosity.

a girl who loved me and I loved her I was just too stupid and scared to act on it hell she asked me out about 8 times and nothing would come out:(

SNIP

they sound younger than you (I have no idea about American classes) tell some boy in your year or above (one you like maybe;) ) us guys help any girl who asks for help its like are kryptonite and it also usually build a nice healthy interest;)

Of course, teen anguish! How could I have forgotten? -whacks self- By the way, I'm a girl.

To be honest with you, I don't think my parents are that overprotective. They let me go out on the weekends, they don't really watch my grades or the people I hang out with.

What they do do is make my mom out to be the victim because she has asthma and had cancer. She seems to be always sick and telling us what to do, and complaining she's fat and that we have no money when she sits on the couch all day and doesn't have a real job.

They tell me that they think I'm a useless waste of money. They tell me that I'm an abomination against Christ (I am a Christian), they try and force themselves down my throat. I really can't stand this very much longer. They refuse to even admit that I have depression. Which my doctor and my psychiatrist say I do.

Hey I know how you feel. But My mom is really insane she has been to a mental hospital and is Bi-Polar or something like that. And I tried to run away when I was 13 when around the time My step dad lost his Job(Which my mom talk him into it) and he didnt have a job for almost a year.(Leaving us broke alot)

Well I am 14 now just turned 14. and I think about killing my self and runing away. Those thoughts drive me insnane.

I guess I am just gonna have to wait until I am 18 to help solve my problems...But in the mean time you just have to do the best you can.
I know how you feel.

I dont like my parents at all Infact I just can't wait to get away from them but just think about this..

Do you Love your parents even if they dont love you.

You are still unsure about running away or what ever you want to do. Thats why you are still their.

Try to find some help make running away your last resort.

Try a teen help site(Message board)?? Maybe that is not corny.

Or maybe I am just to late.On this topic

a girl who loved me and I loved her I was just too stupid and scared to act on it hell she asked me out about 8 times and nothing would come out:(

Should have written the reply...Or maybe nodded dumbly?

Should have written the reply...Or maybe nodded dumbly?
Grabbing her and kissing her would make for a much more memerable response. If only because of the police reports.

FUCKING MORON. LISTEN TO ME! WE DO HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN SCHOOLS! *Prays to anti-ban gods* If we don't how is it possible that I am freely able to declare the fact that I am communist in my history class, and freely debate with my communist beliefs in my history class? Fucking moron...
Communist, eh? It shows, like when you said "the government" pays for our services, waiving the fact that the government gets money from you and you commie friends. It is also apparent when you give terrible advice, and insist that schools don't have the right to punish you for speaking out against teachers. I've been to the principal's office more than once for just that. :D

Also, I'm not suprised you live in California. :p

a girl who loved me and I loved her I was just too stupid and scared to act on it hell she asked me out about 8 times and nothing would come out:(



they sound younger than you (I have no idea about American classes) tell some boy in your year or above (one you like maybe;) ) us guys help any girl who asks for help its like are kryptonite and it also usually build a nice healthy interest;)

They are younger than me. They're immature and stupid, which is why it bugs me. Because they say a lot of nasty things about my best friend and I. And because they think that they can get away with it because they're popular. And they can.

Can I ask for your advice on how to deal with this? Because I started this thread? This is the situation of today.
*snippity snip*
Based on what you just posted, I still can't see that running away would be a good solution to your problems. Have you tried talking to them, calmly, about this? You should be able to talk to them about these things, but I get the sense that it isn't easy in your case. (I react to and dislike the "abomination"-part you're mentioning)

But if this is a serious problem for you, I still say you should contact a helpline, talk to your psychiatrist or a member of your family whom you trust.

Grabbing her and kissing her would make for a much more memerable response. If only because of the police reports.

Police reports? What are you talking about? She was probably secretly wishing he would do that!

they sound younger than you (I have no idea about American classes) tell some boy in your year or above (one you like maybe;) ) us guys help any girl who asks for help its like are kryptonite and it also usually build a nice healthy interest;)

Augh, it's true. I didn't even like her that much, but I couldn't say no. >_>

For the record, I was talking about a girl who ask me to basically run credit for her, as I was selling candy to raise funds, and she said she'd pay me tommorrow. 20 other people ask me that and I can refuse them (all male, coincedentally), but not this one...Stupid girl kryptonite.

Should have written the reply...Or maybe nodded dumbly?

alas what should have been I guess I had better make it up to her and maybe dust off that old box in my chest and see if there is anything left

Police reports? What are you talking about? She was probably secretly wishing he would do that!

Is this a common secret wish? *taking out notepad*

alas what should have been I guess I had better make it up to her and maybe dust off that old box in my chest and see if there is anything left

...Wait...Was that a metaphor or not?

Where would they dump it?
Hehe... Oh, you know, the right place ;)

*Nonchalantly hiding plans, including map with huge X marked on it*

I need severe help. My parents have seemingly decided that I'm an abomination because I support homosexuals, bisexuals and transgenders because I participated in the Day of Silence. They also have decided I'm a druggie because I have (had) a lighter.

This seems to be the final straw for me. They say horrible things, then act like it doesn't happen.

I want to run away. I know people who would let me stay with them and not make my parents come and get me. Is this wise? I have the money...
Nah, just stick it out until you move out. And lose the lighter.

Is this a common secret wish? *taking out notepad*
Didn't know that eh?

Hey I know how you feel. But My mom is really insane she has been to a mental hospital and is Bi-Polar or something like that. And I tried to run away when I was 13 when around the time My step dad lost his Job(Which my mom talk him into it) and he didnt have a job for almost a year.(Leaving us broke alot)

Well I am 14 now just turned 14. and I think about killing my self and runing away. Those thoughts drive me insnane.

I guess I am just gonna have to wait until I am 18 to help solve my problems...But in the mean time you just have to do the best you can.
I know how you feel.

This year I went through a suicidal episode, brought on by my parents' extreme pressure on me to be better than I could be; nothing was good enough, hence the abuse. However, you shouldn't wait until you're 18 to act.

Waiting til you're of age gives you the opportunity to move away from those making you upset. But now, you still have the chance to talk to someone at a careline, which you can find the number for in Google, or Yellow Pages, or White Pages...

I was lucky I found someone who really cared: my boyfriend. He saw me through that difficult time, and I honestly can say he saved my life. The careline people genuinely care about you too, that is why they work advising people like you who are experiencing what you are experiencing.

Please give them a try; it can't hurt, and can honestly change your life.

Nah, just stick it out until you move out. And lose the lighter.

Yeah, arc welders work much better.

Is this a common secret wish? *taking out notepad*
:rolleyes:

*grabs Dina's notepad and burns it with OP's lighter*

They are younger than me. They're immature and stupid, which is why it bugs me. Because they say a lot of nasty things about my best friend and I. And because they think that they can get away with it because they're popular. And they can.
Agree with them and claim you are Satan. Then threaten to bring them to hell with you. If they comment on how ridiculous this sounds then point out to them that they are the ones who called you Satan in the first place.

Didn't know that eh?

Nah, but I'm gonna have the best notepad ever eventually.

Hehe... Oh, you know, the right place ;)

*Nonchalantly hiding plans, including map with huge X marked on it*

Can I see the plan? Please? I'll give you cookies for it!

:rolleyes:

*grabs Dina's notepad and burns it with OP's lighter*

Hmm...good thing Word does backup saves...Is that a yes or a no?

I was lucky I found someone who really cared: my boyfriend. He saw me through that difficult time, and I honestly can say he saved my life. The careline people genuinely care about you too, that is why they work advising people like you who are experiencing what you are experiencing.
Since that post was slightly leaning towards trying to get me help, let me consider this. Can I get a girlfriend? Can I even get a BOYFRIEND? No and no. So unless you can hooke me up with someone, please, don't tell me to get a relationship to help me.

I think the OP basically needs to make her parents feel guilty and sympathetic towards her. They're treating her like the criminal, why not reverse it on them?

They are younger than me. They're immature and stupid, which is why it bugs me. Because they say a lot of nasty things about my best friend and I. And because they think that they can get away with it because they're popular. And they can.

boys are the answer! hell just hearing about it makes me want to fly a few thousand miles to beat them up also odds are they like you (wow I think I’ve been there too *shakes fist at older women*) so don't let it get you down if you don’t want to ask for help just say there sad and ask them if that has ever worked (been there too there is no reply you can make to that and by God I have tried)

Agree with them and claim you are Satan. Then threaten to bring them to hell with you. If they comment on how ridiculous this sounds then point out to them that they are the ones who called you Satan in the first place.

Print out huge contracts for their souls.

Yeah, arc welders work much better.
To melt wax?

Question for the OP: Why do they call you satan?

Are you one of those soceity hating Goths?

Also, WHY do you have a lighter?

Yeah, arc welders work much better.
For what, burning your hands off?

Where would they dump it?On Natliir?
Please do, I'm getting a headache and I can't even HEAR him.


Duly noted as plan "B" :D

Since that post was slightly leaning towards trying to get me help, let me consider this. Can I get a girlfriend? Can I even get a BOYFRIEND? No and no. So unless you can hooke me up with someone, please, don't tell me to get a relationship to help me.

You probably could. You might have more freinds than just Elizabeth if you didn't ignore them, and one of them might be single.

To melt wax?

Nah. Magnesium is much cooler...or a Lithium compound...Boric acid...Sodium....

Hmm...good thing Word does backup saves...Is that a yes or a no?

I don't know, but I've got the OP's lighter. teehee. :D

...Wait...Was that a metaphor or not?

clever isn’t it I bet I can see that on about 20 blogs and 10 emo song by the end of the month:p

Question for the OP: Why do they call you satan?

Are you one of those soceity hating Goths?

Also, WHY do you have a lighter?
Hey, give the kid a break. He/she is obviously going through a tough time, and he/she shouldn't be ripped on. Just give him/her some friendly advice.

We don't want another suicide on our hands, now do we? (Pss...answer is no.)

You probably could. You might have more freinds than just Elizabeth if you didn't ignore them, and one of them might be single.
But they ignore me, so how is it possible for me to ignore them. Unless they think I'm a freak and they're staring at me, they do in fact ignore me.

Nah, but I'm gonna have the best notepad ever eventually.
Notpad ashes you mean :p

Thank you very much. I've been politically aware since I was in 5th grade. Of course, I was politcally stupid back then. But now I am considerably politcally smart.
Socialism, politically smart... I'm not seeing the connection.

Since that post was slightly leaning towards trying to get me help, let me consider this. Can I get a girlfriend? Can I even get a BOYFRIEND? No and no. So unless you can hooke me up with someone, please, don't tell me to get a relationship to help me.
There was no suggestion anywhere there about getting a girlfriend or boyfriend. We don't care about helping you anymore, since you claim every solution won't work or is impossible to do. Well I don't, I can't speak for anyone else.

For what, burning your hands off?

Nah, that's what the free-electron laser is for.

Hey, give the kid a break. He/she is obviously going through a tough time, and he/she shouldn't be ripped on. Just give him/her some friendly advice.

We don't want another suicide on our hands, now do we? (Pss...answer is no.)
Wait, is this in reference to Silence and Nothing? Did she actually go through with it and succeed?

Wait, is this in reference to Silence and Nothing? Did she actually go through with it and succeed?
I'm sorry but I don't recall that particular person. Although I do believe calling someone emo and telling them they should die for it. Could have very well been silence and nothing.

Socialism, politically smart... I'm not seeing the connection.
Conservative... Empty insults... Well, I am certainly seeing a connection.

Notpad ashes you mean :p

Who said I meant a physical notepad?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Notepad.png

Nah, that's what the free-electron laser is for.
You've got the answer to everything, don't you?

Nah, that's what the free-electron laser is for.
That's what I use mine for. Now who's gonna ask how I typed this with no hands?

You've got the answer to everything, don't you?

I may or may not be on the fifth level.

Conservative... Empty insults... Well, I am certainly seeing a connection.
Not every conservative is

Can I see the plan? Please? I'll give you cookies for it!
Hmm... Cookies or secret map, cookies or exposing the secret plot... What to choose, what to choose...
Cookies! Yay!

*hands Ladamesansmerci more secret documents in exchange for cookies*

Mmm... Cookies :fluffle:

Question for the OP: Why do they call you satan?

Are you one of those soceity hating Goths?

Also, WHY do you have a lighter?

They call me Satan because I went through a phase where I would wear all black. It's understandable to the people who know me very well, because it was right around the time two of my friends (they were twins, one by cancer, one suicide) passed away.

I'm not a goth.

I have a lighter because I melt wax to seal letters.

Who said I meant a physical notepad?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Notepad.png

*burn's Dina's computer*

Since that post was slightly leaning towards trying to get me help, let me consider this. Can I get a girlfriend? Can I even get a BOYFRIEND? No and no. So unless you can hooke me up with someone, please, don't tell me to get a relationship to help me.

Do I have to do everything around here?

Urging you to seek help. Even giving you the number of an American careline, Googling it! Now I am charged with a new Quest:: getting Naliitr a partner.

Well, let's see. I'm in London, you're in America. So I guess I can't really hook you up with someone.

Crud, foiled!

Seriously, I was using my boyfriend as an example, of how ANOTHER PERSON can help you through your troubles. You don't have to face it alone. I then suggested (since you said you had no friends or anyone to turn to) the childlines, where people who genuinely care about your wellbeing (hence choosing that job, to help people like you) will want to listen and help you through.

Relationships aren't just romantic like boyfriend/girlfriend -- they are connections that can occur between any person. Even having an anonymous relationship with the person on the other end of the childline, can help you with your troubles.

That's what I use mine for. Now who's gonna ask how I typed this with no hands?
ok, how?

That's what I use mine for. Now who's gonna ask how I typed this with no hands?

Easy, you're typing this with your feet...or your tongue :eek:

But they ignore me, so how is it possible for me to ignore them. Unless they think I'm a freak and they're staring at me, they do in fact ignore me.

So everyone except one person ignores you?

Also, I do seriously support saying you are Satan, and asking them for their souls...Just...ah...don't let your parents hear of it?

Not every conservative is
And not every Socialist isn't politically smart/aware.

Hey, give the kid a break. He/she is obviously going through a tough time, and he/she shouldn't be ripped on. Just give him/her some friendly advice.

We don't want another suicide on our hands, now do we? (Pss...answer is no.)

Fair enough, but no one answered me on why she has a lighter.

Conservative... Empty insults... Well, I am certainly seeing a connection.

Consevatives dont tend to score in the negatives on their social score of the political compass, miss "I'm so politically smart".

Hmm... Cookies or secret map, cookies or exposing the secret plot... What to choose, what to choose...
Cookies! Yay!

*hands Ladamesansmerci more secret documents in exchange for cookies*

Mmm... Cookies :fluffle:

But I don't want these. I just want the map...

oooooo, the lemur conspiracy to take over the world. *goes off to read*

They call me Satan because I went through a phase where I would wear all black. It's understandable to the people who know me very well, because it was right around the time two of my friends (they were twins, one by cancer, one suicide) passed away.

I'm not a goth.

I have a lighter because I melt wax to seal letters.
I say start handing out standard Power in Exchange for Immortal Soul contracts. How can it possibly go wrong ;)

*burn's Dina's computer*

Good thing I thought of backing up on an external hard drive after the time we had to format the computer's hard drive.

Who said I meant a physical notepad?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/Dragonkirby/Non-Kirby/Notepad.png
*gasp*

Conservative... Empty insults... Well, I am certainly seeing a connection.
Touche.

Easy, you're typing this with your feet...or your tongue :eek:
Cookie for you.

Fair enough, but no one answered me on why she has a lighter.



".
how do you know it's a she?

*gasp*

What? I think it's a good idea.

But they ignore me, so how is it possible for me to ignore them. Unless they think I'm a freak and they're staring at me, they do in fact ignore me.

poor lad I suggest going up too them and asking if you can sit with them sometime maybe lunchtime (whilst Elizabeth is there preferably) you will get bad signs at first but basically your Elizabeth’s pet/bitch so no worries eventually you will become one of them and you can tell them your love life and feelings and so on and so forth

Note: tell them girls who you like you can’t lose girl kryptonite I call it

That's what I use mine for. Now who's gonna ask how I typed this with no hands?
How did you type this with no hands? :confused:
[/innocence]
(Note: If it was with your spleen, you don't have to answer...) :p

Good thing I thought of backing up on an external hard drive after the time we had to format the computer's hard drive.
*blows up your house*

They call me Satan because I went through a phase where I would wear all black. It's understandable to the people who know me very well, because it was right around the time two of my friends (they were twins, one by cancer, one suicide) passed away.

I'm not a goth.

I have a lighter because I melt wax to seal letters.

Just lose the ligher, it only brings unwanted attention and suspicion from your parents.

You dont have to bring unwanted negative attention on yourself by wearing all black...even if people close to you die.

Its just not nessecary.

poor lad I suggest going up too them and asking if you can sit with them sometime maybe lunchtime (whilst Elizabeth is there preferably) you will get bad signs at first but basically your Elizabeth’s pet/bitch so no worries eventually you will become one of them and you can tell them your love life and feelings and so on and so forth

Note: tell them girls who you like you can’t lose girl kryptonite I call it
Ha! now that's what I call genius.

So everyone except one person ignores you?
Well the teachers tend to try to get me to speak up. When I do in history class, people start calling me a nerd/geek/dork because of my vast knowledge of history. When I do in math, I am interrupted by the idiotic trouble makers like everyone else is. Not like I have a chance to speak up in P.E. Nor in Art. Except this one kid named Tommy Akers who is always asking me about my political and religious beliefs. "What religion are you?" says he. I say "Agnostic". He says "What's an eggnostic? Someone who worships eggs? Teacher, Alex says he's an eggnostic! What's that?". More annoying than enjoyable attention. In English I usually screw up when talking. I don't pay attention in Science, so I usually state something wrongly.

Good thing I thought of backing up on an external hard drive after the time we had to format the computer's hard drive.
*head explodes from techi-ness*

They call me Satan because I went through a phase where I would wear all black. It's understandable to the people who know me very well, because it was right around the time two of my friends (they were twins, one by cancer, one suicide) passed away.

I'm not a goth.

I have a lighter because I melt wax to seal letters.

Yikes! I have lots of black stuff. Black tops, black trousers. But that's because they're nice! Guess it just appeals to peoples' stereotypical nature... anything beyond simplicity and their brain starts to work.

I find looking down at the younger people and sneering at them usually works. Again, not very Christian-like, but such values went out the window as soon as they started accusing you of being Satan. (Maybe they worship you? I don't know?)

Personally I like drop-kicking them, and blaming dyspraxia. It helps if you have a diagnosis :cool:

Cookie for you.

*looks around at crates of cookies* Anybody want more cookies?

how do you know it's a she?

She said so after numerous people called her a he.

*blows up your house*

Good thing I copy everything, and keep it in a Swiss bank vault.

Its just not nessecary.
Then again, what is?

Yikes! I have lots of black stuff. Black tops, black trousers. But that's because they're nice! Guess it just appeals to peoples' stereotypical nature... anything beyond simplicity and their brain starts to work.

I find looking down at the younger people and sneering at them usually works. Again, not very Christian-like, but such values went out the window as soon as they started accusing you of being Satan. (Maybe they worship you? I don't know?)

Personally I like drop-kicking them, and blaming dyspraxia. It helps if you have a diagnosis :cool:

Dyspraxia let's you drop-kick people? Crap, Dysgraphia's getting the short end of the stick again isn't it?

how do you know it's a she?
Cos she said so earlier.

She said so after numerous people called her a he.
okie doke. And here I was thinking you have magickal powers of stuff

how do you know it's a she?
a) Psychic connection...

- or -

b) Reading the thread

;)

Cos she said so earlier.
now i know.

poor lad I suggest going up too them and asking if you can sit with them sometime maybe lunchtime (whilst Elizabeth is there preferably) you will get bad signs at first but basically your Elizabeth’s pet/bitch so no worries eventually you will become one of them and you can tell them your love life and feelings and so on and so forth

Note: tell them girls who you like you can’t lose girl kryptonite I call it
Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?

Good thing I copy everything, and keep it in a Swiss bank vault.
*nukes Switzerland*

*head explodes from techi-ness*

Uhhh...Oops?

Good thing a copy everything, and keep it in a Swiss bank vault.
*nukes every single thing that has a swiss flag in a one mile distance of it*

a) Psychic connection...

- or -

b) Reading the thread

;)
I'll go with a.

okie doke. And here I was thinking you have magickal powers of stuff

Well, that too.

I just thought that was implied.

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?

I thought you wanted to be rid of Liz? And it's a distinct possibility they're attracted, but make sure you don't fall into the same cycle as emos.

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?
You have a friend, you don't get to call yourself a loner anymore.

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?
They are and always have been.
Elementary physics, my friend, elementary physics.

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?

Why are you a loner?

Dyspraxia let's you drop-kick people? Crap, Dysgraphia's getting the short end of the stick again isn't it?

Dysgraphia lets you doodle compulsively on other peoples' work, pencilcases, other belongings.

Possibly also an excuse for senseless acts of vandalism, graffiti...

The options are endless.

*nukes every single thing that has a swiss flag in a one mile distance of it*
You're going about this entirely the wrong way. Kill Dinaverg.

*nukes Switzerland*
*gasp*
*GASP*
ect.

Great minds think alike I see.

*nukes Switzerland*

Good thing I hate the Swiss and also put copies on the ISS.

Well, that too.

I just thought that was implied.
It should have been, but I'm feeling kinda woozy right now.

Yikes! I have lots of black stuff. Black tops, black trousers. But that's because they're nice! Guess it just appeals to peoples' stereotypical nature... anything beyond simplicity and their brain starts to work.

I find looking down at the younger people and sneering at them usually works. Again, not very Christian-like, but such values went out the window as soon as they started accusing you of being Satan. (Maybe they worship you? I don't know?)

Personally I like drop-kicking them, and blaming dyspraxia. It helps if you have a diagnosis :cool:
A. They have brains?
B. -sniggersnigger- I may try that. I think they might, because I'm ooooh so much prettier than them! :D At least I don't have self-esteem problems.
C. Great minds think along the same lines.

Why are you a loner?
He's not, he just likes to think he is.

You're going about this entirely the wrong way. Kill Dinaverg.

Darn it, I wanted to see how long untill they thought of that. I was gonna see if I could get them to destroy God.

Why are you a loner?
Because he has no friends. Except me, because I'm Jesus, and therefore I'm everyone's friend.

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?

Loners are usually loners for a reason; Find a clique and stick with it. That's what I did, and look how I turned out! *plugs ears*

You're going about this entirely the wrong way. Kill Dinaverg.
*looks back at the newly made waste lands*

*shrugs*

*shoots Dina with a bazooka*

Good thing I copy everything, and keep it in a Swiss bank vault.
Evacuates all Chocolates just in time before the expected destruction of the country.

*looks around at crates of cookies* Anybody want more cookies?
:eek: COOKIES!!!
*Munch munch*

Loners are usually loners for a reason; Find a clique and stick with it. That's what I did, and look how I turned out! *plugs ears*
Exactly

Dysgraphia lets you doodle compulsively on other peoples' work, pencilcases, other belongings.

Possibly also an excuse for senseless acts of vandalism, graffiti...

The options are endless.

Hmmmm...Bwahaha...I'm liking these ideas...Not to mention the fact you actually know what Dysgraphia is. Or did you Wiki/Google it?

Why are you a loner?
I think the answer to that is obvious. :D

Because he has no friends. Except me, because I'm Jesus, and therefore I'm everyone's friend.
No, he has a friend, some Elizabeth chick.

SNIP

its best to pretend to be not smart in class I learnt that when I was 9 just do the work your set and be lazy/socialise with girls ;) it sounds bad but you grow to love it

I'm gonna miss school:(

*looks back at the newly made waste lands*

*shrugs*

*shoots Dina with a bazooka*

Good thing I'm a state away from Ruffy and had time to step three feet to the side while checking on my copy hard drive in the ISS.

Why are you a loner?
I tried making friends until 3rd grade. No one from K-3 decided they wanted to be my friend. Why? Because I had a speech impediment, I am siczhotypal (sp?), I run a little funny, and I hold my pencil in a wierd way. Then I simply decided "Fuck it. Why should I care if I have friends or not. My books are friends enough."

He's not, he just likes to think he is.
*snickers*

A. They have brains?
Yes. Delicious ones. :D
Mmmm... Brains :fluffle:

Ops, did I just write that out loud? :(

Hmmmm...Bwahaha...I'm liking these ideas...Not to mention the fact you actually know what Dysgraphia is. Or did you Wiki/Google it?

I'm a diagnosed dyslexic and dyspraxic, so I had to get in the know about my sister disabilities, in order to cover my ass in the event of doing something stupid! :p

there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?
Of course. That's called "having something in common". And of course, you wouldn't want the trouble of going out with an extrovert if you don't like social situations.

No, he has a friend, some Elizabeth chick.
That's one friend. ONE. Count it. Not two, not three, not six like most everyone else has, but ONE.

its best to pretend to be not smart in class I learnt that when I was 9 just do the work your set and be lazy/socialise with girls ;) it sounds bad but you grow to love it

I'm gonna miss school:(

It's awesome really...That's basically my act, then we have this trivia competition in Health class. No one wants me on their team, but then I basically answer every question for them. I literally heard "Okay, you can stop being smart now".

I tried making friends until 3rd grade. No one from K-3 decided they wanted to be my friend. Why? Because I had a speech impediment, I am siczhotypal (sp?), I run a little funny, and I hold my pencil in a wierd way. Then I simply decided "Fuck it. Why should I care if I have friends or not. My books are friends enough."
Isn't being schizotypal basically just being odd?

Oh, and stop hi-jacking the thread about how your life is awful and you're beyond all concievable help. Please.

I tried making friends until 3rd grade. No one from K-3 decided they wanted to be my friend. Why? Because I had a speech impediment, I am siczhotypal (sp?), I run a little funny, and I hold my pencil in a wierd way. Then I simply decided "Fuck it. Why should I care if I have friends or not. My books are friends enough."
That's tragic... I take back my insults. :(

Good thing I'm a state away from Ruffy and had time to step three feet to the side while checking on my copy hard drive in the ISS.
*nukes entire world*

That's one friend. ONE. Count it. Not two, not three, not six like most everyone else has, but ONE.
Yes, and one is greater than zero.:rolleyes:

Of course. That's called "having something in common". And of course, you wouldn't want the trouble of going out with an extrovert if you don't like social situations.
Maybe I could turn Liz into an introvert. Get one more on the non-idiotic side of humanity.

:(

I'm very sorry to hear about the verbal abuse. It hurts deeply for someone who supposedly loves you to say such aweful things - like calling you worthless, a loser, wishing you were never born and such. I know, because I went through it. It hurts and the pain can follow you thruought your entire life if you don't work on alleviating it somehow. those who say to talk to yoru parents are right but if you don't get a resolution and you have friends parents who care and want to help you then it isn't a bad option if they can help you get to school and all that, but it should be a last option.

That's tragic... I take back my insults. :(
I sense sarcasm. Are you being sarcastic?

I'm a diagnosed dyslexic and dyspraxic, so I had to get in the know about my sister disabilities, in order to cover my ass in the event of doing something stupid! :p

Hehe....Cool. Just dysgraphic here...although I have decided to self diagnose a mild case of OCD.

If they're trying to protect me, they should really listen when I try and say something like "Mom, the sixth graders are calling me Satan again..." or "Marc shoved me into a table again."
well what do they do when you tell them that?

I have neice about 2 years younger than you who doesn't get along with her mother at the moment. At the moment they're not talking.

Evacuates all Chocolates just in time before the expected destruction of the country.


:eek: COOKIES!!!
*Munch munch*

Damn it! I forgot about their godly chocolate! *thanks Gravlen with more cookies*

Even if Elizabeth was there the peer pressure would probably convince Elizabeth to drive me away. If not, why in hell would they want to know about my love life and/or feelings? And I don't have a crush on any girls at the particular moment. All though there is this one loner girl... Holy shit! Are loners attracted to one another?

Elizabeth would stick up for you all she really needs to say is "give him a chance" try it there is no point in not and trust me girls crave gossip like an addict craves a fix

as for the loner girl get in there my son :D

It's awesome really...That's basically my act, then we have this trivia competition in Health class. No one wants me on their team, but then I basically answer every question for them. I literally heard "Okay, you can stop being smart now".
My sister's always telling me to stop being so smart. I've also been told my brain knows to many things(when I mentioned the number 1 X 10^(10^100))

*nukes entire world*

*coughISSisaspacestationcough*

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/

That's one friend. ONE. Count it. Not two, not three, not six like most everyone else has, but ONE.

Doesn't being a loner mean you have no friends at all. Like Zero. Not one. not two, or six or ten, but ZERO.

Because, loner is derived from alone, i.e. as opposed to with anyone (even if it is one friend). You can probably tell by correlating the words... LONEr, aLONE, etc.

Don't believe me? Check your books.

well what do they do when you tell them that?

I have neice about 2 years younger than you who doesn't get along with her mother at the moment. At the moment they're not talking.
Say "Go away, I'm checking my email." or "Go away and do something else or clean." Or "Suck it up." Or "Shut up and do your homework."

My sister's always telling me to stop being so smart. I've also been told my brain knows to many things(when I mentioned the number 1 X 10^(10^100))

I just like absorbing random information...Like socks. Did you know what socks are for?

I sense sarcasm. Are you being sarcastic?
No, actually, sorry if I came off that way. For this thread, I will sympathize with you.
However, your political views are still backwards in my mind. :rolleyes:

Isn't being schizotypal basically just being odd?

Oh, and stop hi-jacking the thread about how your life is awful and you're beyond all concievable help. Please.

I was actually just marvelling at how a thread about the OP's problem turned into one about Nat's.

I just like absorbing random information...Like socks. Did you know what socks are for?
Ooh, what are socks for?


I love random information.

Elizabeth would stick up for you all she really needs to say is "give him a chance" try it there is no point in not and trust me girls crave gossip like an addict craves a fix

as for the loner girl get in there my son :D
I don't crave gossip! I don't spread rumors. That's a stereotype. Ugh. Men!

*coughISSisaspacestationcough*

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/
*kills self*

Maybe I could turn Liz into an introvert. Get one more on the non-idiotic side of humanity.

Yours is the non-idiot side of humanity? It is doomed after all.

Ooh, what are socks for?


I love random information.

Well, obviously they keep your feet warm, but they also carry sweat from your foot up to an area where it can evaporate easily.

Elizabeth would stick up for you all she really needs to say is "give him a chance" try it there is no point in not and trust me girls crave gossip like an addict craves a fix

as for the loner girl get in there my son :D
1. Were you present at the "Is this considered eavesdropping?" thread?

2. :D :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Hehe....Cool. Just dysgraphic here...although I have decided to self diagnose a mild case of OCD.

Coincidental! I have self diagnosed mini-OCD... I have this thing with number 42 barriers at train stations... you know the things you stick your ticket in and the doors open (why can I not remember the name of them?) and you go through? I 'have' to go through number 42. Not 41, not 43. Those are the unlucky barriers (long story, some involving unfortunate incidents with these barriers!). The other ones are alright though.

Poses a lot of problems since as a Londoner, I frequently use the underground. Even more annoying is how the most prominent ticket barrier is the number 41... suspicious really!

Maybe I could turn Liz into an introvert. Get one more on the non-idiotic side of humanity.
Introverts aren't smarter or less idiotic than extroverts.

*kills self*

Good thing Ruffy isn't the ISS.

I think your best options are to either:

- Keep your true opinions hidden and just tell them what they want to hear.
- Try to make them see you as the victim and feel guilty.

The second one is probably more difficult.

Well, obviously they keep your feet warm, but they also carry sweat from your foot up to an area where it can evaporate easily.
Cool. I appreciate my socks more than ever now.

Good thing Ruffy isn't the ISS.
How do you know? :eek:

When I was 15 years of age, I had an alcoholic father, my mother had left home, I got dumped with my older brother who didnt want me there, I thought nobody cared where I was or what I done, I wouldnt say that I ran away, to me at the time i just left, I had what I thought what was enough money (No way of earning more, it doesn't last long) I lasted three weeks before being sent home by the police, On arriving home I realised I was way better off there, maybe it wasnt perfect, but it was home and believe it or not I was glad to be there, it was safe, a lot safer than being out in the world by myself. I realised that my family did care a lot more than I realised.
My advice to you is if you have any views about homosexuality is keep them to yourself for the time being until your parents learn to understand you a little better, It sounds like they still have to learn to be parents. Give them a bit of leeway and time, believe me, I know being a parent is not easy, They, as well as their children have to learn by their mistakes.

Coincidental! I have self diagnosed mini-OCD... I have this thing with number 42 barriers at train stations... you know the things you stick your ticket in and the doors open (why can I not remember the name of them?) and you go through? I 'have' to go through number 42. Not 41, not 43. Those are the unlucky barriers (long story, some involving unfortunate incidents with these barriers!). The other ones are alright though.

Poses a lot of problems since as a Londoner, I frequently use the underground. Even more annoying is how the most prominent ticket barrier is the number 41... suspicious really!
What do you do if they only go up to 41? Walk?

*kills self*
See? Problem solved


Hey guys, by the way, thanks a lot for the help. I'm working out a plan of action. I'm definately going to stick out five more loooong loooooong winters though. Then I can go to school for astrophysics! YAY! So thanks for cheering me up. I'm still working out what to do during lectures and shouting attacks.

I don't crave gossip! I don't spread rumors. That's a stereotype. Ugh. Men!

Tell me about it.

Ps, I have to do this everytime, but I apologize for spamming and jacking your thread so much. But apparently, Nat's outdone me this time, so I don't feel that guilty. :D

How do you know? :eek:
Ya, he nuked the world and still managed to post.

Cool. I appreciate my socks more than ever now.
But.. love me :(

Good thing Ruffy isn't the ISS.
... or am I?

Naliitr,

Are you still considering yourself schizotypal? You can only hold that diagnosis for the first 6 months, after that you are diagnosed schizophrenic, or diagnosed "normal but slightly eccentric".?

See? Problem solved


Hey guys, by the way, thanks a lot for the help. I'm working out a plan of action. I'm definately going to stick out five more loooong loooooong winters though. Then I can go to school for astrophysics! YAY! So thanks for cheering me up. I'm still working out what to do during lectures and shouting attacks.
Try and react as little and as calmly as possible. And good luck!:fluffle: