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I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?

Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much.

Are you suggesting that all people who wear skimpy clothing are 'sluts'?

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?
well you see, spring weather usually corresponds to a lessening in the volume of clothing necessary to be quite comfortable. maybe they're just taking advantage of the sun?

well you see, spring weather usually corresponds to a lessening in the volume of clothing necessary to be quite comfortable. maybe they're just taking advantage of the sun?
Mmm hmm. Let's check for the finger-tip length dress code requirement for skirts and shorts! Mmm hmm. It's only a quarter that!

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?

We need a special day to wear short skirts? pfft...

I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much.

Good for you then that wearing skimpy clothing does not automatically make one a "slut".

you dont like girls wearing short skirts?

are you sure youre straight?

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?

Where was this???!!!101

"The death of one man - A tradgey. The death of millions - A stastistic." Joseph Stalin


Firstly: 'tragedy', not 'tradgey'.

Secondly: there is absolutely no evidence that Stalin ever wrote or said this. At best it should be filed under 'most likely apocryphal'.

Are you suggesting that all people who wear skimpy clothing are 'sluts'?
Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up at the end of her thigh, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up the end of her calf, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.

It may come to your mind, but that does not mean it comes to my mind.

you dont like girls wearing short skirts?

are you sure youre straight?
I am. I'm just classical in my ideas of love and relationships.

Mmm hmm. Let's check for the finger-tip length dress code requirement for skirts and shorts! Mmm hmm. It's only a quarter that!

You really have a problem with girls wearing less clothing?

no it's "take upskirt pictures of those wearing short skirts and post them on NS" day

Where was this???!!!101
At Sullivan Middle School. It was not fun for me. Fun for all the "Gangsta's", "Jocks", "Emos", and "Preps", though.

Firstly: 'tragedy', not 'tradgey'.

Secondly: there is absolutely no evidence that Stalin ever wrote or said this. At best it should be filed under 'most likely apocryphal'.
I saw it on the History Channel. Therefore, it must be true.

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up the end of her calf, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.

Her calf?

At Sullivan Middle School. It was not fun for me. Fun for all the "Gangsta's", "Jocks", "Emos", and "Preps", though.

Curse those lascivious whores with their wanton display of ungodly flesh and disgusting strumpet-flesh.

Good for you then that wearing skimpy clothing does not automatically make one a "slut".
Sometimes you really can judge a book by its cover

You really have a problem with girls wearing less clothing?
Yes. It makes me think lowly of them, as it makes me think that they would be willing to whore themselves out to any guy. I take love much more seriously than that, and am not willing to have a relationship with someone who thinks so lowly of love. (Yes, I have come around and now do believe in love.)

I saw it on the History Channel. Therefore, it must be true.

My point proven.

Her calf?
You know? Upper leg?

Sometimes you really can judge a book by its cover

No, you can't. Would it be okay to judge all black men as criminals?

Curse those lascivious whores with their wanton display of ungodly flesh and disgusting strumpet-flesh.

And you're loving every minute of it. Admit it! :D

You know? Upper leg?

You might want to bust out your anatomy book, boss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calf_muscle

Yes. It makes me think lowly of them, as it makes me think that they would be willing to whore themselves out to any guy.

Isn't it great to be able to understand the deep and complex inner workings of other people's minds purely on the basis a couple of pieces of cloth?

You know? Upper leg?
you mean thigh, right? cause half way up the calf is lower than your knee!

you'd have the moral strictness of puritans, for God sakes!

oh, and spring weather plays a big part. just because someone wears a skimpy skirt does not mean they want you in that skimpy skirt.

And you're loving every minute of it. Admit it! :D
I certainly am NOT. If she was my lover and we were in a private place, then yes. But I do not enjoy seeing women whom I have come into minimal contact with whoring themselves off the every guy in their line of sight!

You might want to bust out your anatomy book, boss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calf_muscle

Are you suggesting that Nalitir isn't just promuglating Victorian attitudes to the brazen and disgusting display of the female ankle?

You know? Upper leg?
I do believe you are thinking of "thigh". The calf is below the knee. If you think skirts just above the calf are short, you must have never seen a miniskirt.

you mean thigh, right? cause half way up the calf is lower than your knee!

Surely this all depends upon whether you are doing a headstand or similar at the time.

you mean thigh, right? cause half way up the calf is lower than your knee!

you'd have the moral strictness of puritans, for God sakes!

oh, and spring weather plays a big part. just because someone wears a skimpy skirt does not mean they want you in that skimpy skirt.
They are all wearing skirts that are much shorter than the dress code allows. And yes I mean thigh. I get them confused.

I have a couple of short skirts i like to wear in the summer, as well as one just below my knees that i love, and i've never even had sex, and i have had opportunities, they just weren't ones i wanted. The last thing i want to do is whore myself out to any guy, i just don't want to bundle up when it's hot outside.

Are you suggesting that Nalitir isn't just promuglating Victorian attitudes to the brazen and disgusting display of the female ankle?

Nalitir has been dropping the ball frequently the past day or two, and I've been picking it up multiple times.

They are all wearing skirts that are much shorter than the dress code allows. And yes I mean thigh. I get them confused.

Basic anatomy floors you, yet you presume to make deep psychological judgements?

I am. I'm just classical in my ideas of love and relationships.
good lord. you dont have to marry them just because you enjoyed the view.

Fixed the "Thigh" and "Calf" mix-up.

Nalitir has been dropping the ball frequently the past day or two, and I've been picking it up multiple times.

Well, to be fair such pseudo-puritan attitudes are not entirely unknown in the young male in the period shortly after their balls have dropped. 'tis a confusing and bewildering time.

Are you suggesting that Nalitir isn't just promuglating Victorian attitudes to the brazen and disgusting display of the female ankle?
Amish Paradise
Weird Al Yankovic
As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain
I take a look at my wife and realize she's very plain
But that's just perfect for an Amish like me
You know I shun fancy things like electricity
At 4:30 in the morning I'm milkin' cows
Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows... fool
And I've been milkin' and plowin' so long that
Even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone
I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline
Got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin
But if I finish all of my chores and you finish thine
Then tonight we're gonna party like it's 1699
We been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish paradise
I've churned butter once or twice
Living in an Amish paradise
It's hard work and sacrifice
Living in an Amish paradise
We sell quilts at a discount price
Living in an Amish paradise

A local boy kicked me in the butt last week
I just smiled at him and I turned the other cheek
I really don't care, in fact I wish him well
'Cause I'll be laughing my head off when he's burning in Hell
But I ain't never punched a tourist even if he deserved it
An Amish with a 'tude?
You know that's unheard of
I never wear buttons but I got a cool hat
And my homies agree
I really look good in black... fool
If you come to visit, you'll be bored to tears
We haven't even paid the phone bill in 300 years
But we ain't really quaint, so please don't point and stare
We're just technologically impaired

There's no phone, no lights, no motorcar
Not a single luxury
Like Robinson Caruso
It's as primitive as can be

We been spending most our lives
Living in an Amish Paradise
We're just plain and simple guys
Living in an Amish Paradise
There's no time for sin and vice
Living in an Amish Paradise
We don't fight, we all play nice
Living in an Amish Paradise

Hitchin' up the buggy, churnin' lots of butter
Raised a barn on Monday, soon I'll raise anutter
Think you're really righteous?
Think you're pure in heart?
Well, I know I'm a million time as humble as thou art
I'm the pious guy the little Amlettes wanna be like
On my knees day and night scorin' points for the afterlife
So don't be vain and don't be whiny
Or else, my brother, I might have to get medieval on your heinie

good lord. you dont have to marry them just because you enjoyed the view.
No... But if a girl is willing to whore herself out like that, she obviously doesn't care about love, and that is a huge turn-off for me.

Fixed the "Thigh" and "Calf" mix-up.
NOTE! I meant "Thigh" when I said "Calf"!

Amish Paradise

Meh. I still prefer Mr Wonder's original.

No... But if a girl is willing to whore herself out like that, she obviously doesn't care about love, and that is a huge turn-off for me.

Explain to a poor deluded foll like me how she is 'whoring ' herself out by wearing a short skirt, would you?

EDIT: if anything, we could likely suggest that it is because a deep-seated desire for love that she might wear skimpy clothing, thus in order to attract potential partners and thus gain love...

...weren't you the young fellow who was decrying love and cursing its very name only a matter of days back?

Meh. I still prefer Mr Wonder's original.

Your comment just reminded me of the video with the Amish men staring at a magazine of a woman showing her ankle. :D

Yes. It makes me think lowly of them, as it makes me think that they would be willing to whore themselves out to any guy. I take love much more seriously than that, and am not willing to have a relationship with someone who thinks so lowly of love. (Yes, I have come around and now do believe in love.)


Just because you think that about them doesn't mean that's how they truely are. The real problem lies in the fantasy realm of your head no out in the world of people who dress skimpily.

Explain to a poor deluded foll like me how she is 'whoring ' herself out by wearing a short skirt, would you?
When a girl is wearing pants/skirts that are almost nothing, it's like inviting every guy in the world to come take a peek.

When a girl is wearing pants/skirts that are almost nothing, it's like inviting every guy in the world to come take a peek.

She asked to be raped; just look at her skirt.

Just because you think that about them doesn't mean that's how they truely are. The real problem lies in the fantasy realm of your head not out in the world of people who dress skimpily.
Seriously man, these girls are wearing shorts and skirts as short as some I've seen street walkers wear. If that's not whoring themselves out, I don't know what is.

When a girl is wearing pants/skirts that are almost nothing, it's like inviting every guy in the world to come take a peek.

Are you suggesting that admiring the female form is a bad thing?

Naliitr, do not ever, visit Brazil. If you think a short skirt is mid thigh, you are very much mistaken. A short skirt is just a wide belt here.

If that's not whoring themselves out, I don't know what is.

Let me help you out here: 'whoring yourself out' is engaging in sexual acts solely on the basis of commercial fiscal reward. Does that help?

Seriously man, these girls are wearing shorts and skirts as short as some I've seen street walkers wear. If that's not whoring themselves out, I don't know what is.


Then you don't knwo what it and I suggest you look up whore and slut in the dictionary. Showing ones skin does not make one either.

I know you are serious and it makes me a sad panda:(

Naliitr, do not ever, visit Brazil. If you think a short skirt is mid thigh, you are very much mistaken. A short skirt is just a wide belt here.

Do women in Brazil even wear clothes anymore?

Naliitr, do not ever, visit Brazil. If you think a short skirt is mid thigh, you are very much mistaken. A short skirt is just a wide belt here.


I love Brazil, in theory

Even if a girl wears a short skirt because she wants guys to notice her, and that isn't always the reason, that still doesn't mean she wants to sleep with him. Often the people we assume are having sex are the ones who aren't, and the ones we would never suspect are the ones who are. I knew girls in school who liked to wear shorter skirts, and they weren't having sex. A best friend of mine on the other hand who usually wore jeans and sweatshirts, and not tight jeans, got pregnant in the 12th grade.

I believe in love more than anything, i'm a hopesless romantic, but if i want to wear a short skirt, or a tank top, or a tight shirt, i will.

Are you suggesting that admiring the female form is a bad thing?
Only when the form your admiring isn't someone whom you love greatly and they love you greatly back.

Only when the form your admiring isn't someone whom you love greatly and they love you greatly back.

So the whole great western tradition of the nude is just an example of teh evil, then?

No... But if a girl is willing to whore herself out like that, she obviously doesn't care about love, and that is a huge turn-off for me.
good lord

you mean it has never occurred to you that girls dress for reasons other than their attractiveness to YOU?

you cant possibly look at a cute girl in a short skirt and think "wow she's hot" even if you would never ask her out?

that a girl might dress to look good and not ever give so much as the time of day to any boy?

that the way a girl dresses has nothing to do with her sexual mores?

you need to rethink this whole thing. you are so wrong there isnt enough time to put it into a post.

Then you don't knwo what it and I suggest you look up whore and slut in the dictionary. Showing ones skin does not make one either.

I know you are serious and it makes me a sad panda:(
It makes you sad because I have a large amount of sexual purity? Amazing...

It makes you sad because I have a large amount of sexual purity? Amazing...
what a girl wears has NOTHING to do with your sexual purity. they are not inviting you or anyone else to have sex.

I don't know about you, but i can look at someone i think is attractive and not think "boy would i like to fuck him." I don't want to just jump into bed with someone just because i can admire their physical attractiveness. I'm 28 years old and i'm still a virgin. I'm not saving myself for marriage because i don't think you have to be married to have sex, but i won't go have one night stands either because it's just not who i am. I just haven't had a boyfriend. I have still worn the clothes though that you think make women sluts. The only difference is that i don't think there is anything morally wrong with casual sex, and i would never judge someone for it, that doesn't mean i want to do it.

Do women in Brazil even wear clothes anymore?

In some cases, unfortunately, they almost do not. (Please remember that Brazilian women are real, they are not all Gisele Bundchen)

Naliitr, do not ever, visit Brazil. If you think a short skirt is mid thigh, you are very much mistaken. A short skirt is just a wide belt here.
I've only just realised who you are...

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?
Wearing a short skirt does not make a girl a slut, asshole.

Perhaps it was the first day of the season warm enough for bare legs so lots of girls deceided to take advantage of it.

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?
Maybe it's the hot spring weather?

Or maybe they finally noticed what a sexy beast you are, and they were showing you their godly goods.:D

Mmm hmm. Let's check for the finger-tip length dress code requirement for skirts and shorts! Mmm hmm. It's only a quarter that!
That rule sucks for us tall girls. The only skirts that I can find longer than my fingertips are ones that go to my knees. I still end up with the same amount of thigh coverage as a short girl by wearing the same sort of skirt. And you confirmed your idiocy here.

Wearing a short skirt does not make a girl a slut, asshole.

Perhaps it was the first day of the season warm enough for bare legs so lots of girls deceided to take advantage of it.
Hmm. So girls wearing shorts that are as short as I see street walkers wearing doesn't make them sluts? And the dress code clearly states the length of those skirts are too short.

Hmm. So girls wearing shorts that are as short as I see street walkers wearing doesn't make them sluts? And the dress code clearly states the length of those skirts are too short.
Hey calm down, it's only a few inches of skin, it's not gonna hurt anyone.

Oh, wait, I get it. You're Christian:headbang:

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up at the end of her thigh, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.
No, the first word that comes to my mind would either be "nice legs" or "perhaps she should have gone with something a bit longer" depending on the girl. Short skirts and wide bums are not the greatest combination, they tend to make the wide bums look wider.

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?

sluts? thats harsh...

anyway, i wouldnt mind it one bit if everyday was short skirt day...

No, the first word that comes to my mind would either be "nice legs" or "perhaps she should have gone with something a bit longer" depending on the girl. Short skirts and wide bums are not the greatest combination, they tend to make the wide bums look wider.
Or "I'd sure like some of that."

Sorry. That was my barbaric male masculinity speaking. I don't hold myself accountable for it.

Hmm. So girls wearing shorts that are as short as I see street walkers wearing doesn't make them sluts? And the dress code clearly states the length of those skirts are too short.
No, how a woman dresses in no way indicates her tendency to sleep around.

And again, those dress code rules are so unfair for tall girls, as no mini skirt will be fingertip length and the judgment of length shouldn't rest on how much thigh is exposed, but how much is covered. And this has nothing to do with sluttiness either. Maybe the people who made up the dress codes were prudes.

Hmm. So girls wearing shorts that are as short as I see street walkers wearing doesn't make them sluts?

Nope, it doesn't.

And the dress code clearly states the length of those skirts are too short.

Whether such garments are approved or disproved by your school is utterly irrelevant to the moral judgements that you are making.

Or "I'd sure like some of that."

Sorry. That was my barbaric male masculinity speaking. I don't hold myself accountable for it.
I'm a girl... so I'll just offer the fashion commentary.


Actually, sometimes I'll comment on how cute the skirt is or with a remark like "I wonder where she got that..."

And again, those dress code rules are so unfair for tall girls, as no mini skirt will be fingertip length and the judgment of length shouldn't rest on how much thigh is exposed, but how much is covered.

Someone explain this 'fingertip' rule to me.

Someone explain this 'fingertip' rule to me.
Usually it goes that if you hold your arms straight down at your sides with your hands flat and pointed downwards, the skirt should be at least that long. It's very unfair for us tall girls, especially us tall girls with long limbs.

I'm a girl... so I'll just offer the fashion commentary.


Actually, sometimes I'll comment on how cute the skirt is or with a remark like "I wonder where she got that..."
Is that a good thing?

Usually it goes that if you hold your arms straight down at your sides with your hands flat and pointed downwards, the skirt should be at least that long. It's very unfair for us tall girls, especially us tall girls with long limbs.

Bizarre.

Is that a good thing?
The fashion commentary? Or wondering where she got the skirt? Usually wondering where she got the skirt is a good thing, as I would like to invest in such a skirt myself. And the fashion commentary depends on how the skirt suits the girl.

For instance, the other day I was at a bar and there was a chubby girl wearing a skirt that was too short, too tight and had embellishments on the back pockets. The pockets and shortness of the skirt made her rear end look wider and the tightness made her body look weird. If she'd gone for a skirt that was a bit longer, a couple sizes bigger and without fancy pockets, she'd have looked fine. There was another girl who had beautiful legs (though likely fake tanned) and a cute little ruffly skirt. The skirt suited her very well. I didn't think about getting one for myself though, as it probably wouldn't suit me.

Hey calm down, it's only a few inches of skin, it's not gonna hurt anyone.

Oh, wait, I get it. You're Christian:headbang:
Actually, I'm not.

Bizarre.
Yeah, it's a pretty stupid rule.

I think that if you're going to make an issue of skirt length, you should measure from the hip down to make sure the skirt is long enough, not measuring from the knee up, or based on some body feature that's different for everyone. I mean, there have to be girls out there with long torsos and short arms who can wear skirts that nobody has any business wearing in the daytime by that standard.

Actually, I'm not.
You're just a prude. A rude one at that. I don't think you have to worry about any of those girls trying to fuck you, so it's no consequence whether it's a turn-off or not.

Maybe it's the hot spring weather?

Or maybe they finally noticed what a sexy beast you are, and they were showing you their godly goods.:D
This (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e377/Ritlina/?action=view&current=Alex006.jpg) is a sexy beast?

At Sullivan Middle School. It was not fun for me. Fun for all the "Gangsta's", "Jocks", "Emos", and "Preps", though.
Middle school? So you're calling women sluts for wearing what they want and you're what, 13? I really hope you learn to respect women at some point in the future, or you're going to have a sad, miserable existence.

Middle school? So you're calling women sluts for wearing what they want and you're what, 13? I really hope you learn to respect women at some point in the future, or you're going to have a sad, miserable existence.
Well, when they wear clothes that actual sluts wear, it's kind of hard not to. And I respect women very much. Just not women whom whore themselves out.

Usually it goes that if you hold your arms straight down at your sides with your hands flat and pointed downwards, the skirt should be at least that long. It's very unfair for us tall girls, especially us tall girls with long limbs.
At my former schools it was a lot worse for tall girls than that. They took a sheet of paper and folded it in half (top to bottom), then put the folded paper at your knee and if the skirt wasn't touching the paper, it was called too short. The talls ones were pretty screwed while the shortest ones could wear very revealing skirts. A very sliding scale.

No... But if a girl is willing to whore herself out like that, she obviously doesn't care about love, and that is a huge turn-off for me.
You clearly don't know anything about the following:

1. love
2. women
3. sex
4. whores

And with the sort of attitude you seem to take, you're not likely to learn anything about any of those, except maybe #3 with the help of #4 when you're 40 and still a virgin.

Newsflash: women can be smart, loving people if they wear short skirts. We can also sleep around a bit and still believe and care about love. We aren't sluts for what we wear and if a woman is a slut, it still doesn't make her any less of a person, just like if a man is a slut, it doesn't make him any less of a person. Sluts have feelings and sluts do fall in love on occasion and have been known to commit to relationships seriously when they mean it.
One of my best guy friends is a huge slut, he's a great guy and he's found himself a great girl and they make each other happy.

1. love
2. women
3. sex
4. whores

1. Yes

2. No

3. No

4. No

It IS National Poem in Your Pocket Day in the US. I know, my school actually set out baskets filled with poems and encouraged us to carry them around. The results were...strange.

Well, when they wear clothes that actual sluts wear, it's kind of hard not to. And I respect women very much. Just not women whom whore themselves out.
Oh yes, you respect women. You just don't respect them enough to wear something that's comfortable in the heat. You just don't respect them enough to dress themselves in the morning without having to meet your approval. You just don't respect that they are people too.

Furthermore, I don't see anything wrong with a woman who deceides to literally whore herself out (not the kind of whoring you're talking about where no money is exchanged and chances are a good, consentual time is had by all) sex is legal, selling is legal, if a woman, the owner of a beautiful body, deceides she wants to rent it out for a man to play with, that's really only her business and the business of her customers. As long as she keeps herself safe and respects herself, that's what matters.

It IS National Poem in Your Pocket Day in the US. I know, my school actually set out baskets filled with poems and encouraged us to carry them around. The results were...strange.
Didn't happen here, and I live in Cali. Oh wait. I just explained it to myself. No on in Cali care about education, literature, the arts, or culture! So no one would care to celebrate today. The few of us who do care about the above are too few to make a difference.

1. Yes

2. No

3. No

4. No
You're 13 tops, no matter what you may believe, you don't know shit about love.

Usually it goes that if you hold your arms straight down at your sides with your hands flat and pointed downwards, the skirt should be at least that long. It's very unfair for us tall girls, especially us tall girls with long limbs.

I thought the normal rule for dress codes was simply saying that the skirt had to be closer to the knee then the buttocks. That rule sounds fair to me.

At my former schools it was a lot worse for tall girls than that. They took a sheet of paper and folded it in half (top to bottom), then put the folded paper at your knee and if the skirt wasn't touching the paper, it was called too short. The talls ones were pretty screwed while the shortest ones could wear very revealing skirts. A very sliding scale.
That's awful.

Maybe they should determine skirt length based on body height... like the shortest you can wear your skirt should be a length x% of your total body height without high heels.

Oh yes, you respect women. You just don't respect them enough to wear something that's comfortable in the heat. You just don't respect them enough to dress themselves in the morning without having to meet your approval. You just don't respect that they are people too.

As I have said before, I think maybe skirts/pants that are knee length are going to be comfortable in the sun. I don't think they need the skirts/pants to be waist length.

I thought the normal rule for dress codes was simply saying that the skirt had to be closer to the knee then the buttocks. That rule sounds fair to me.
If you think that's fair, then you haven't gone skirt shopping in a long time. Though that is closer to reasonable... actually I'd have to test it out. But I'm lazy, I'll get back to you on that tomorrow maybe.

You're 13 tops, no matter what you may believe, you don't know shit about love.
I do know what fake love is though. See it all the time.

As I have said before, I think maybe skirts/pants that are knee length are going to be comfortable in the sun. I don't think they need the skirts/pants to be waist length.
lol


Skirts/shorts at knee length are fine for in the sun? First of all, most stores don't even sell women's shorts in knee length varieties. Secondly, jean shorts at knee length would be either very uncomfortable on a hot day or very ugly. Third, you are in no position to dictate how women dress. You are not an expert on purity, you are not an expert in women's fashion. You are not an expert in anything other than what your colon looks like since you have such a wonderful view of it with your head up your ass.

If you think that's fair, then you haven't gone skirt shopping in a long time. Though that is closer to reasonable... actually I'd have to test it out. But I'm lazy, I'll get back to you on that tomorrow maybe.

My high school had that particular rule and it is a simple rule so I figured it would make sense for others to use it.

And while I can say that I have NEVER went skirt shopping, fashion has to give options, not all can be skimpy, I have seen plenty that are not real short.

Usually it goes that if you hold your arms straight down at your sides with your hands flat and pointed downwards, the skirt should be at least that long. It's very unfair for us tall girls, especially us tall girls with long limbs.

Strange.


IIRC, the rule in my school was supposed to be that the skirt had to touch the ground when kneeling apparently. Though that became redundent because it was rather impractical to check.

I do know what fake love is though. See it all the time.
:rolleyes:

"Fake" love? You mean puppy love, the sort that all 13 year olds go through? The sort that people who don't know anything about love, lust, themselves or others go through? The sort of love that's required for an education in what love is? Love is something you learn about through experience, at 22, I'm still learning about love, I'm sure 50 year olds on here will tell you they're still learning a lot about love. I'm very hesitant to call any love fake... just because it's kids with crushes doesn't make what they feel any less real than what I feel. It's just a different feeling.

My high school had that particular rule and it is a simple rule so I figured it would make sense for others to use it.

And while I can say that I have NEVER went skirt shopping, fashion has to give options, not all can be skimpy, I have seen plenty that are not real short.
Yeah, I have some that are at my knees. BUt miniskirts are so much more fun! And I heard that the micromini is supposed to make a comeback this year. It's the season for girls with hot legs. yay!

lol


Skirts/shorts at knee length are fine for in the sun? First of all, most stores don't even sell women's shorts in knee length varieties. Secondly, jean shorts at knee length would be either very uncomfortable on a hot day or very ugly. Third, you are in no position to dictate how women dress. You are not an expert on purity, you are not an expert in women's fashion. You are not an expert in anything other than what your colon looks like since you have such a wonderful view of it with your head up your ass.
So now you're blaming the capitalist facist companies of America for the short skirts/pants? You're saying that it's the stores faults since they don't sell long enough skirts/pants. And I may not be an expert in women's fashion, but I am not trying to dictate how women dress. I simply say I have less respect for women who wear skimpy clothing. And you'd be suprised at the things I am experted it. And hell man, I wore black jeans today, and I was entirely comfortable! So I don't know why knee length skirts/shirts are going to be uncomfortable!

Yeah, I have some that are at my knees. BUt miniskirts are so much more fun! And I heard that the micromini is supposed to make a comeback this year. It's the season for girls with hot legs. yay!

Hey it only has to be exactly in between knee and butt not actually AT the knee! :D

I doubt schools will be allowing their students to wear microminis so at least the OP can breath easy.

Hey it only has to be exactly in between knee and butt not actually AT the knee! :D

I doubt schools will be allowing their students to wear microminis so at least the OP can breath easy.
Well my school is certainly allowing it. I can take a breather when I'm in my G.A.T.E. classes though, as the majority of girls there are either preppy (To where they won't wear very short skirts/pants) or loners like me. (To where they don't care what they wear and simply slap on something comfortable. Usually loners consider something big as comfortable. For example, I consider my giant jacket to be very comfortable. I notice other loners tend to perfer big clothing as well.) But as soon as I get back into the regular classes, I start getting into that mood again.

So now you're blaming the capitalist facist companies of America for the short skirts/pants? You're saying that it's the stores faults since they don't sell long enough skirts/pants.
No, I'm saying that the long skirts are ugly most of the time (occasionally there are fun, cute, frilly ones) and they're no fun anyways (unless they're the kind that poof out when you twirl).

And I may not be an expert in women's fashion,
Or female anatomy. If a gir's got nice legs and she wants to show them off, then all the power to her.

but I am not trying to dictate how women dress.
You're trying to link sexual activity to attire and attempting to shame women into dressing a certain way by accusing them of being promiscuous due to their manner of dress. No, that's not trying to influence how they dress at all.

I simply say I have less respect for women who wear skimpy clothing.
Yes, we've established that you're an idiot. And what makes you think that any girl in your school gives a shit what you think?

And hell man, I wore black jeans today, and I was entirely comfortable! So I don't know why knee length skirts/shirts are going to be uncomfortable!
I'm guessing that your jeans were baggy? Ever notice how girl's jeans are rarely ever baggy anymore? Try wearing tight black jeans on a hot day and see how great you feel. Then wear some shorts the next day and tell me how much better it is.

Oh, and also, often knee length skirts and shorts impede movement. If someone's going to run anywhere, knee length skirts (again, with the exception of the poofy ones) or shorts won't cut it at all. Do you hang out at your school's track meets and call all the girls there sluts and go on about how you don't respect them too? How about the boys wearing the short runners shorts, do they get the same treatment and disdain?

So now you're blaming the capitalist facist companies of America for the short skirts/pants? You're saying that it's the stores faults since they don't sell long enough skirts/pants. And I may not be an expert in women's fashion, but I am not trying to dictate how women dress. I simply say I have less respect for women who wear skimpy clothing. And you'd be suprised at the things I am experted it. And hell man, I wore black jeans today, and I was entirely comfortable! So I don't know why knee length skirts/shirts are going to be uncomfortable!

1) If you've never went skirt shopping, don't tell women it would be easy to find the clothes YOU deem "appropriate"
2) You ARE trying to dictate how women dress with this thread. You are trying to discredit any woman who has ever worn non Amish clothes by calling them whores and sluts.
3) They do NOT dress for your respect and pleasure. I hardly think they care what you think.
4) Different people have different tolerance to heat. I know I can wear T-shirts in winter and not freeze, but if you make me wear a jacket in the summer, I would pass out because of the heat. Also, what they're comfortable in has nothing to do with you. You don't like it, then don't look at them. I hardly think they are begging you to stare at their skirts and shoving their asses in your face.

Usually loners consider something big as comfortable.
For girls, that's usually a low self esteem/body issues thing that they grow out of.

This (http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e377/Ritlina/?action=view&current=Alex006.jpg) is a sexy beast?

Perfectly fine looking to me.

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?
I think it's a rather vile mischaracterization to describe a woman who wears what she wants to wear as being "a slut."

Personally, I'm sorry I missed it! :D

No, I'm saying that the long skirts are ugly most of the time (occasionally there are fun, cute, frilly ones) and they're no fun anyways (unless they're the kind that poof out when you twirl).


Or female anatomy. If a gir's got nice legs and she wants to show them off, then all the power to her.


You're trying to link sexual activity to attire and attempting to shame women into dressing a certain way by accusing them of being promiscuous due to their manner of dress. No, that's not trying to influence how they dress at all.


Yes, we've established that you're an idiot.


I'm guessing that your jeans were baggy? Ever notice how girl's jeans are rarely ever baggy anymore? Try wearing tight black jeans on a hot day and see how great you feel. Then wear some shorts the next day and tell me how much better it is.

Oh, and also, often knee length skirts and shorts impede movement. If someone's going to run anywhere, knee length skirts (again, with the exception of the poofy ones) or shorts won't cut it at all. Do you hang out at your school's track meets and call all the girls there sluts and go on about how you don't respect them too? How about the boys wearing the short runners shorts, do they get the same treatment and disdain?
1. I certainly don't consider long skirts ugly. I actually quite enjoy them on a woman.

2. Agreed. But I will still respect them less.

3. Meh. I'd think the attire of a woman would say something about her personality.

4. So not liking skimpy clothing makes me an idiot? What the fuck over?

5. And? Maybe girls should try baggy clothing? What's wrong with baggy clothing?

6. My school doesn't have track meets. But I understand the necessity for track runners to wear short clothing in order to run better, and I respect that. But if someone wore a leotard as casual wear, don't you think it would be a little, well, awkward? And in case you Brits (Or wherever you hail from) don't know, American school children wear Physical Education uniforms when we go to Physical Educations. These uniforms are designed to be comfortable, yet aerodynamical. And believe me, these shorts are long enough for me. They raise just above the knee. That's plenty long for me. The casual wear most of the girls at my school wear are at least four inches above the knee.

1) If you've never went skirt shopping, don't tell women it would be easy to find the clothes YOU deem "appropriate"
2) You ARE trying to dictate how women dress with this thread. You are trying to discredit any woman who has ever worn non Amish clothes by calling them whores and sluts.
3) They do NOT dress for your respect and pleasure. I hardly think they care what you think.
4) Different people have different tolerance to heat. I know I can wear T-shirts in winter and not freeze, but if you make me wear a jacket in the summer, I would pass out because of the heat. Also, what they're comfortable in has nothing to do with you. You don't like it, then don't look at them. I hardly think they are begging you to stare at their skirts and shoving their asses in your face.
1. I don't. But I think it would be.

2. I am not. I am simply saying skimpy clothing probably resembles a womans personality.

3. I know that.

1. I don't. But I think it would be.

2. I am not. I am simply saying skimpy clothing probably resembles a womans personality.

3. I know that.

1. Good looking knee length skirts that are comfortable? Maybe in the 50's.

2. Therefore, every woman in the world is a whore because she has worn something revealing one time or another in her life.

3. Then why are you so worked up about what they wear? I think there is self denial hiding in there somewhere.

1. Good looking knee length skirts that are comfortable? Maybe in the 50's.

2. Therefore, every woman in the world is a whore because she has worn something revealing one time or another in her life.

3. Then why are you so worked up about what they wear? I think there is self denial hiding in there somewhere.
3. I do perform self denial constantly in order to NOT be reminded of the fact that I am an ugly, worthless piece of shit. But it doesn't always work. Then I listen to The Arcade Fire.

1. Good looking knee length skirts that are comfortable? Maybe in the 50's.

2. Therefore, every woman in the world is a whore because she has worn something revealing one time or another in her life.

3. Then why are you so worked up about what they wear? I think there is self denial hiding in there somewhere.
I tend to agree. And I have another question: what do they call those short, pleated skirts that look something like "school-girl uniforms?"

2. Therefore, every woman in the world is a whore because she has worn something revealing one time or another in her life.

Nope. But those who wear revealing clothing all the time does tell you something about their personality.

I think there is self denial hiding in there somewhere.

I think what is happening is pretty obvious to most of us here. The awakening of adult sexuality is hardly an easy ride.

I tend to agree. And I have another question: what do they call those short, pleated skirts that look something like "school-girl uniforms?"


I call them "one of my favorite articles of clothing on women".

Nope. But those who wear revealing clothing all the time does tell you something about their personality.
What, exactly?

I tend to agree. And I have another question: what do they call those short, pleated skirts that look something like "school-girl uniforms?"

Short pleated skirts? :confused:

To be honest, I have no idea. Maybe Dakini knows. She sounds like the fashionably knowledgaeble type.

I call them "one of my favorite articles of clothing on women".
Mah MAN! Heh! Me too!!! :D

Nope. But those who wear revealing clothing all the time does tell you something about their personality.

That they are comfortable with display of their body? This does not always go hand in hand with sexual activity.

I think what is happening is pretty obvious to most of us here. The awakening of adult sexuality is hardly an easy ride.



I think the kid just needs to get laid.

Nope. But those who wear revealing clothing all the time does tell you something about their personality.
:eek: Someone is SUPPORTING me in this endevour? Amazing...

What, exactly?

Like is being theorized, that they are sluts or at least like advertising their sexuality. They wouldn't wear that all the time if they weren't trying to be noticed after all.

Like is being theorized, that they are sluts or at least like advertising their sexuality. They wouldn't wear that all the time if they weren't trying to be noticed after all.
I've known very few women who didn't appreciate "being noticed." How they choose to be so is their business and none of mine.

And, as I said above, calling any woman "a slut" is a rather vile mischaracterization.

I think the kid just needs to get laid.

Getting laid at the age of 13 is hardly what I would recommend.

Coming to terms with wanting to polish your bishop is an entirely different matter.

3. Meh. I'd think the attire of a woman would say something about her personality.
Newsflash: It doesn't say much. The baggy clothes wearing girls you praise likely have self-esteem issues. That's always been the issue with girls I've known who wore baggy clothes.

5. And? Maybe girls should try baggy clothing? What's wrong with baggy clothing?
Baggy clothing is not comfortable.
Baggy clothing tends to make people look bigger (read: fatter) than they are.
Baggy clothing tends to weigh you down.
Girls look better in non-baggy clothing. (yes, this even applies to the bigger girls who think they are hiding any imperfections in the pool of clothing...)

But if someone wore a leotard as casual wear, don't you think it would be a little, well, awkward?
I wore a body suit once when I was younger... grade 6-ish? It was before I had boobs, I wore jeans with it of course, and the only awkward part was going to the bathroom while wearing it.

And in case you Brits (Or wherever you hail from) don't know, American school children wear Physical Education uniforms when we go to Physical Educations.
I'm from Canada. And I doubt that every school has uniforms for gym. My parents are from the states and they never said anything about that.

The casual wear most of the girls at my school wear are at least four inches above the knee.
Wait... you're honestly raising a fuss about girls showing 4 inches above the knee? These are your short skirts?!

Please tell me you're joking.

I think the kid just needs to get laid.

With this kind of attitude, he'd never get laid.

Getting laid at the age of 13 is hardly what I would recommend.
If you gave me a woman with a personality to fit mine (I don't mean one identical to mine. Read one of the last posts I posted in the "Meh. Real life friend" thread.), allow me to spend time with her, become her friend, then allow our relationship to evolve into "More than friends", then I will see about "getting laid".

1. Good looking knee length skirts that are comfortable? Maybe in the 50's.
Actually, last year I got a cute one. It was when the peasant style was coming back in. It's not the most comfortable thing ever though, mostly because the waist is actually at my waist rather than my hips like I'm used to.

With this kind of attitude, he'd never get laid.


Damn, you beat me to that observation.

Newsflash: It doesn't say much. The baggy clothes wearing girls you praise likely have self-esteem issues. That's always been the issue with girls I've known who wore baggy clothes.


Baggy clothing is not comfortable.
Baggy clothing tends to make people look bigger (read: fatter) than they are.
Baggy clothing tends to weigh you down.
Girls look better in non-baggy clothing. (yes, this even applies to the bigger girls who think they are hiding any imperfections in the pool of clothing...)


I wore a body suit once when I was younger... grade 6-ish? It was before I had boobs, I wore jeans with it of course, and the only awkward part was going to the bathroom while wearing it.


I'm from Canada. And I doubt that every school has uniforms for gym. My parents are from the states and they never said anything about that.


Wait... you're honestly raising a fuss about girls showing 4 inches above the knee? These are your short skirts?!

Please tell me you're joking.
1. But... But... I like girls with self-esteem issues...

2. Well if people wouldn't care what other people think about them, we wouldn't have this problem, would we?

3. Well, concerning the fact that you wore jeans with it, I can't find anything bad with that.

4. Ok.

5. Maybe it's more like 6 inches, I don't know. I don't stop them to measure...

Only when the form your admiring isn't someone whom you love greatly and they love you greatly back.

Somehow, I don't think you will ever get to the point of being able to love someone if you can't admire them in the first place. A self-replicating cycle of prevention really.

And tell me, do you really believe that clothes define whether one is a slut or not? Are you going to tell me next that people who get raped are at fault because of how they dressed?

Actually, last year I got a cute one. It was when the peasant style was coming back in. It's not the most comfortable thing ever though, mostly because the waist is actually at my waist rather than my hips like I'm used to.

Yeah, they do seem to be coming back. But I hate wearing them to school because I walk to school, and the skirts are REALLY weird to walk int. And I know what you mean by the waist skirts. I was trying on some of my mom's old clothes the other day, and they were all up to the waist. I found those incredibly uncomfortable for some reason, not because they didn't fit, but just because I'm not used to them.

3. I do perform self denial constantly in order to NOT be reminded of the fact that I am an ugly, worthless piece of shit. But it doesn't always work. Then I listen to The Arcade Fire.
You don't have to take your insecurities out on everyone else. Not everyone who has self esteem is a slut.

:eek: Someone is SUPPORTING me in this endevour? Amazing...

Heh. In this kind of situation I agree with the earlier observation that you can often judge a book by its cover. People really aren't the big mysteries that some try to turn them into.

Damn, you beat me to that observation.

I did? SWEET :D I beat someone to something! *dances*

1. But... But... I like girls with self-esteem issues...
Yeah, they're probably nice girls, but that doesn't change the fact that they likely have a poor self image and could use to feel better and more comfortable with their own bodies.

2. Well if people wouldn't care what other people think about them, we wouldn't have this problem, would we?
We would still ahve problems like baggy clothing not being as comfortable and weighing one down.
Baggy clothing also looks very unprofessional. Not that a really short skirt looks professional, but a tailored suit does.

3. Well, concerning the fact that you wore jeans with it, I can't find anything bad with that.
It was still skin tight.

I didn't have boobs though, so it probably didn't matter.

5. Maybe it's more like 6 inches, I don't know. I don't stop them to measure...
That's still not terribly short. A mini-skirt usually is classified as 8 inches above the knee. A micromini is usually 10 inches above the knee. Usually girls have reached their adult height around 13-14... so those should be reasonable.

Heh. In this kind of situation I agree with the earlier observation that you can often judge a book by its cover. People really aren't the big mysteries that some try to turn them into.
Give it a break. He's not even talking about really short skirts, the skirts he's talking about don't even qualify as miniskirts.

Yeah, they're probably nice girls, but that doesn't change the fact that they likely have a poor self image and could use to feel better and more comfortable with their own bodies.


We would still ahve problems like baggy clothing not being as comfortable and weighing one down.
Baggy clothing also looks very unprofessional. Not that a really short skirt looks professional, but a tailored suit does.


It was still skin tight.

I didn't have boobs though, so it probably didn't matter.


That's still not terribly short. A mini-skirt usually is classified as 8 inches above the knee. A micromini is usually 10 inches above the knee. Usually girls have reached their adult height around 13-14... so those should be reasonable.
1. I'm actually very comfortable around people who have low-self image, low-self esteem, etc.

2. Kind of just killed yourself there, bub.

4. 8 inches is terribly high on the leg, though. 10 inches is essentially nothing.

Like is being theorized, that they are sluts or at least like advertising their sexuality. They wouldn't wear that all the time if they weren't trying to be noticed after all.
Because it's never hot and a cool breeze doesn't feel nice on the legs... :rolleyes:

Seriously, boys don't know what they're missing with the inability to wear skirts.

1. I'm actually very comfortable around people who have low-self image, low-self esteem, etc.
Because you feel like shit about yourself too.

2. Kind of just killed yourself there, bub.
How do you figure?

4. 8 inches is terribly high on the leg, though. 10 inches is essentially nothing.
No, it really isn't. If I've got 8 inches uncovered I've got more than 10 inches covered...

Because it's never hot and a cool breeze doesn't feel nice on the legs... :rolleyes:

Seriously, boys don't know what they're missing with the inability to wear skirts.

Actually, I believe the Scots know full well the joys of wearing skirts. Why else do you think they's so fond of their kilts? :p

Because it's never hot and a cool breeze doesn't feel nice on the legs... :rolleyes:

Seriously, boys don't know what they're missing with the inability to wear skirts.
Wouldn't you still be comfortable with the breeze being around your lower legs instead of all your legs?

Actually, I believe the Scots know full well the joys of wearing skirts. Why else do you think they's so fond of their kilts? :p
Yeah. At least those skirts aren't so short you can see the mens..... Nuff said.

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up at the end of her thigh, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.

actually that's not the first thing I think about... :p :fluffle: :fluffle:

Because you feel like shit about yourself too.


How do you figure?


No, it really isn't. If I've got 8 inches uncovered I've got more than 10 inches covered...
1. No shit. And no contradiction to the statment meant. Nor pun meant.

2. You said short skirts don't look professional.

3. Your upper legs are 18 inches long? Amazing.

Actually, I believe the Scots know full well the joys of wearing skirts. Why else do you think they's so fond of their kilts? :p
True. If only every man knew how great it felt to have your legs unencumbered by pants all the time.

2. You said short skirts don't look professional.
I said extermely short skirts don't look professional. Miniskirts look more professional than baggy clothing does.

3. Your upper legs are 18 inches long? Amazing.
I told you I was tall.

Give it a break. He's not even talking about really short skirts, the skirts he's talking about don't even qualify as miniskirts.

Really? Well I don't want to get too puritanical. Anything close to the knee shouldn't be given a second thought.

True. If only every man knew how great it felt to have your legs unencumbered by pants all the time.

Maybe this is the explanation for the general male fondness of nudity! :eek:

True. If only every man knew how great it felt to have your legs unencumbered by pants all the time.
My pants don't encumber me much. At least that I notice... Whenever I'm not wearing pants ( :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ) I don't feel any different in my legs then when I am wearing pants.

Really? Well I don't want to get too puritanical. Anything close to the knee shouldn't be given a second thought.
He's complaining about 4-6 inches.

True. If only every man knew how great it felt to have your legs unencumbered by pants all the time.

Wearing trousers most of my waking life, and having worn kilts every now and again, I have to confess I'm happiest in the buff.

Because it's never hot and a cool breeze doesn't feel nice on the legs... :rolleyes:

Seriously, boys don't know what they're missing with the inability to wear skirts.

I thought people don't want to see our hairy legs. :D

My pants don't encumber me much. At least that I notice... Whenever I'm not wearing pants ( :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ) I don't feel any different in my legs then when I am wearing pants.
It's different to be walking around outside with the air passing freely over your entire legs than it is even with shorts.

He's complaining about 4-6 inches.

And that is the difference between a man and a boy.

actually that's not the first thing I think about... :p :fluffle: :fluffle:
Maybe your other head does the "thinking" for you at that moment. ;)

I said extermely short skirts don't look professional. Miniskirts look more professional than baggy clothing does.


I told you I was tall.
1. No, you just said short skirts.

2. Well, most girls upper legs in my school I estimate to be 12 inches. And I usually see 8 inches of that.

I thought people don't want to see our hairy legs. :D

You'd be surprised what positive reactions a kilt will provoke.

He's complaining about 4-6 inches.
8 inches, my good ma'am.

You'd be surprised what positive reactions a kilt will provoke.

Gotta agree with that. It takes a true man to wear a kilt. :D

8 inches, my good ma'am.
No, you were bitching abour 4-6 inches. I doubt you'd mistake 8 inches for 4 initially.

2. Well, most girls upper legs in my school I estimate to be 12 inches. And I usually see 8 inches of that.
You have lots of short girls in your school.

And I meant extremely short skirts, not short ones.

Gotta agree with that. It takes a true man to wear a kilt. :D
If I wore a kilt I'd probably be arrested for indecent exposure. If the large number of jocks and preps wore a kilt, they'd probably be awarded for indecent exposure. So there's no way I'm wearing a kilt.

You have lots of short girls in your school.
75% of them haven't entered puberty.

i am going to bet that 99.9% of the girls you are talking about could care less what you personally think of them and their clothing choices.

You have lots of short girls in your school.

And I meant extremely short skirts, not short ones.

He IS 13 after all. I dn't think the girls at his school has finished growing yet.

i am going to bet that 99.9% of the girls you are talking about could care less what you personally think of them and their clothing choices.
True. But I am not complaining to them, am I?

If I wore a kilt I'd probably be arrested for indecent exposure. If the large number of jocks and preps wore a kilt, they'd probably be awarded for indecent exposure. So there's no way I'm wearing a kilt.

hmmm...reward and punishment, stage 1 on Kohlberg's moral scale. You've got a long way to go, buddy.

He IS 13 after all. I dn't think the girls at his school has finished growing yet.

Note:

75% of them haven't entered puberty yet.

why exactly are you complaining anyway??

True. But I am not complaining to them, am I?

No, but you are labelling them sluts, whilst simultaneously on another thread considering passing on compromising information from one party to another for personal profit. Would you appreciate if we followed the same course with your opinions here?

hmmm...reward and punishment, stage 1 on Kohlberg's moral scale. You've got a long way to go, buddy.
What?

No, but you are labelling them sluts, whilst simultaneously on another thread considering passing on compromising information from one party to another for personal profit. Would you appreciate if we followed the same course with your opinions here?
To whom, exactly? I don't think anyone cares about my opinions on skimpy clothing, and I don't think they would pay money for my opinions either.

You'd be surprised what positive reactions a kilt will provoke.

Don't think kilts are that popular in America... ;)

To whom, exactly?

To the young short-skirted ladies of Sullivan Middle School.

To the young short-skirted ladies of Sullivan Middle School.
Ha. Like you would be willing to fly over here to California just to do that. Do you even know my name? You may know what I look like, but without a name you cannot say anything about me to the masses at my school. And would they even pay attention to a complete stranger? I doubt it. The most uneducated threat I've seen in a while. You're acting like a kid, BWO, stop it.

Curse those lascivious whores with their wanton display of ungodly flesh and disgusting strumpet-flesh.
Excellent use of uncommon words.

Back to the subject at hand, in high school, the dress code was basically:
"The bottom of the top must reach the top of the bottom" ie no belly showing as well as "shorts & skirts must reach at least halfway down the thigh". Regarding the view that things should be knee-length, I can't even find knee-length men's shorts. I'm not even that tall, 185cm.

I tend to agree. And I have another question: what do they call those short, pleated skirts that look something like "school-girl uniforms?"
I hear they're called kilts, but that doesn't sound right at all since I associate kilts with men.

Baggy clothing is not comfortable.
Baggy clothing tends to make people look bigger (read: fatter) than they are.
Baggy clothing tends to weigh you down.
Girls look better in non-baggy clothing. (yes, this even applies to the bigger girls who think they are hiding any imperfections in the pool of clothing...)
Not neccessarily. I prefer baggy shirts and loose pants, but that could be because I don't enjoy my clothing crushing my testicles. I especially disagree with the bolded part, fat people look better in baggy clothing.

And that is the difference between a man and a boy.
Points for good use of innuendo.

what i am most disturbed by is the fact that you are saying girls who wear short skirts are "whoring themselves out." i assume then that you are under the impression that the reason girls wear skirts is to attract men. have you ever considered the fact that a girl may wear a short skirt because it is new, or pretty, or comfortable, or a gift, or WHATEVER. shit pal, it's hot outside. it's either shorts or skirts and if you've got a cute new skirt, why not wear it? because some random 13 year old boy is grossed out by the sight of an extra couple of inches of skin??

Ha. Like you would be willing to fly over here to California just to do that. Do you even know my name?

I would guess 'Alex'.

You may know what I look like, but without a name you cannot say anything about me to the masses at my school. And would they even pay attention to a complete stranger? I doubt it. The most uneducated threat I've seen in a while. You're acting like a kid, BWO, stop it.

It is not a threat, it is a thought experiment.

Note the exact words I used:

Would you appreciate if we followed the same course with your opinions here?

Where is the threat?

i assume then that you are under the impression that the reason girls wear skirts is to attract men. have you ever considered the fact that a girl may wear a short skirt because it is new, or pretty, or comfortable, or a gift, or WHATEVER. shit pal, it's hot outside. it's either shorts or skirts and if you've got a cute new skirt, why not wear it? because some random 13 year old boy is grossed out by the sight of an extra couple of inches of skin??
1. In case you haven't noticed, many people in this thread have said that is the exact reason why women wear skirts. To attract men.

2. I am not "grossed out". Simply losing respect for them.

3. And I am off to bed-land because my mom is bitching at me. Later!

Where is the threat?

It's hiding. :p

what i am most disturbed by is the fact that you are saying girls who wear short skirts are "whoring themselves out." i assume then that you are under the impression that the reason girls wear skirts is to attract men. have you ever considered the fact that a girl may wear a short skirt because it is new, or pretty, or comfortable, or a gift, or WHATEVER. shit pal, it's hot outside. it's either shorts or skirts and if you've got a cute new skirt, why not wear it? because some random 13 year old boy is grossed out by the sight of an extra couple of inches of skin??
Exactly. It's not the girl's fault you have to hide a boner all day.

god what a douche bag

I would guess 'Alex'.
There's seven Alex's at my school. Good luck trying to tell them which one it is.

Not neccessarily. I prefer baggy shirts and loose pants, but that could be because I don't enjoy my clothing crushing my testicles. I especially disagree with the bolded part, fat people look better in baggy clothing.
Just because something's not skin tight doesn't make it baggy. And fat people look fatter in baggy clothing. If everyone wore clothes that fit them, they'd look better.

Exactly. It's not the girl's fault you have to hide a boner all day.
Now I will leave of my own accord. Not because of my mom's bitching.

There's seven Alex's at my school. Good luck trying to tell them which one it is.

i would say the heavy set one with acne running and hiding from girls in cute skirts.

No... But if a girl is willing to whore herself out like that, she obviously doesn't care about love, and that is a huge turn-off for me.

Yeaaaaa....because when I wear shorter skirts, it totally means I don't care about love. :rolleyes:

There's seven Alex's at my school. Good luck trying to tell them which one it is.

Theoretically we could email them the picture: but you seem to be missing the hypothetical nature of this all.

Yeaaaaa....because when I wear shorter skirts, it totally means I don't care about love. :rolleyes:

Nope, you're nothing but a whore and a slut who deserves no respect whatsoever. :rolleyes:

Nope, you're nothing but a whore and a slut who deserves no respect whatsoever. :rolleyes:

I know. Shame on me....

1. In case you haven't noticed, many people in this thread have said that is the exact reason why women wear skirts. To attract men.That's okay, they're wrong, too.

Sometimes women wear skirts to attract other women. ;)

My school dosn't have dress codes and people wear anything they want. The shortest things i've seen on a girl it about 5-6 inches long. No one cares much. And everyone at my school is a nerd...

Which reminds me, at a school dance, there was this one drunk girl with a very short dress on, dancing...not smartly... and it was fairly obvious that she didn't have underclothes on. There were teachers who apparantly saw that girl(and her inadvertant flashing) and she didn't even get in trouble. Or else, thats what I heard. I was too busy slow dancing with my girlfriend. :fluffle:

Now I will leave of my own accord. Not because of my mom's bitching.

Please, stay gone long enough to mature into a rational adult who has enough respect for women to not label them as sluts based on the clothing they wear.

My school dosn't have dress codes and
What, people still go to those things? Schools, I mean.


Really.


How quaint.

I swear, 50% more girls than usual at my school wore short, VERY short skirts today. Those that didn't were either preppy or loners like me. Personally, I don't find wearing skimpy clothing to be a turn-on. I find it to be a major turn-off, as I do not appreciate sluts very much. So I ask you, was today the annual "Wear a short skirt day!"?

Dude what the fuck is wrong with you.

check yourself into westhill.

i would say the heavy set one with acne running and hiding from girls in cute skirts.
I'm not THAT heavy set. Just about two inches extra on the belly. And I don't run from them. I never actively talk about my thoughts at school, the exception being in debates in History Class. Considering the fact that I'm a loner, I guess you could say I "run away without running" by not paying any attention to anyone unless they have something interesting to say to me.

Yeaaaaa....because when I wear shorter skirts, it totally means I don't care about love. :rolleyes:
Do you wear skirts that are up to the end of the thigh?

My school dosn't have dress codes and people wear anything they want. The shortest things i've seen on a girl it about 5-6 inches long. No one cares much. And everyone at my school is a nerd...

Which reminds me, at a school dance, there was this one drunk girl with a very short dress on, dancing...not smartly... and it was fairly obvious that she didn't have underclothes on. There were teachers who apparantly saw that girl(and her inadvertant flashing) and she didn't even get in trouble. Or else, thats what I heard. I was too busy slow dancing with my girlfriend. :fluffle:
Was your girlfriend a nerd? If so, this (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/295165) may inspire you greatly.

Please, stay gone long enough to mature into a rational adult who has enough respect for women to not label them as sluts based on the clothing they wear.
Well now. I do believe that many people label other people based on the clothes they wear. Guy wearing hot pink and black = emo. Wears a long black trenchcoat/overcoat with more black = goth. Abercrombie = Prep. Low-rider pants and T-shirts with Mac Dre on them = gangsta. So why can't I simply say: Women who wear skirts and shorts as streetwalkers do = sluts?

Personally, I don't like when very young girls dress provocatively. Many a time I've been admiring what I thought was a woman only for the object of my voyeurism to turn around and turn out to be around twelve. Ugh. Spoils the whole moment.

Never had those days when I was at school ...

Personally, I don't like when very young girls dress provocatively. Many a time I've been admiring what I thought was a woman only for the object of my voyeurism to turn around and turn out to be around twelve. Ugh. Spoils the whole moment.
*cough*Jailbait*cough*

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up at the end of her thigh, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.
So she wants sex, how is that any worse than a man who wants sex?

Yes. It makes me think lowly of them, as it makes me think that they would be willing to whore themselves out to any guy. I take love much more seriously than that, and am not willing to have a relationship with someone who thinks so lowly of love. (Yes, I have come around and now do believe in love.)
Maybe they're looking for sex right now, not love. (There is a difference.)

Was your girlfriend a nerd? If so, this (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/295165) may inspire you greatly.
Aww, that's so cute.

Well now. I do believe that many people label other people based on the clothes they wear. Guy wearing hot pink and black = emo. Wears a long black trenchcoat/overcoat with more black = goth. Abercrombie = Prep. Low-rider pants and T-shirts with Mac Dre on them = gangsta.
Because those sorts of labels are fashion categories. Emo, gangasta, prep are all ways to categorize someone's fashion, not their personality.

So why can't I simply say: Women who wear skirts and shorts as streetwalkers do = sluts?
Because slut isn't a category in terms of fashion. You're making a judgement about their personality based on their attire.

Well now. I do believe that many people label other people based on the clothes they wear. Guy wearing hot pink and black = emo. Wears a long black trenchcoat/overcoat with more black = goth. Abercrombie = Prep. Low-rider pants and T-shirts with Mac Dre on them = gangsta. So why can't I simply say: Women who wear skirts and shorts as streetwalkers do = sluts?
I find it objectinable for various reasons:


those other groups wear "gangsta", etc. as a badge of collective pride
"slut" is much more heavily loaded with connotations
it results from your belief that men and women are not equal
you remind me of the Iranian elders' enforcement of burquas because "women arouse impure thoughts in young mens' minds". As if it is not the mens' responsibility as to who they fuck.

So she wants sex, how is that any worse than a man who wants sex?


Maybe they're looking for sex right now, not love. (There is a difference.)
1. It isn't.

2. Then that makes me think lowly of them.

Because those sorts of labels are fashion categories. Emo, gangasta, prep are all ways to categorize someone's fashion, not their personality.


Because slut isn't a category in terms of fashion. You're making a judgement about their personality based on their attire.
Actually, emo, gangsta, prep and slut are all personality types.

it results from your belief that men and women are not equal
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What? I do believe men and women are equal. I'd be just as appauled if a man wore a skirt/shorts that were that short.

Actually, emo, gangsta, prep and slut are all personality types.
No they aren't.

What? I do believe men and women are equal. I'd be just as appauled if a man wore a skirt/shorts that were that short.
:rolleyes: Bullshit. You're only saying that because you know that you'll never see a man wearing shorts or a skirt that short.

Actually, shorts yes. And hey, what do you think of men who wear speedos?

No they aren't.
Ok people! Who here thinks emo, goth, prep, and gangsta, are all personality types?

Ok people! Who here thinks emo, goth, prep, and gangsta, are all personality types?
People who like judging people based on their fashion sense.

Hey Naliitr, I agree. A short skirt does nothing for a girl.

:rolleyes: Bullshit. You're only saying that because you know that you'll never see a man wearing shorts or a skirt that short.

Actually, shorts yes. And hey, what do you think of men who wear speedos?
If they wear JUST the speedo and no pants, I'd be appauled. Unless they were swimming, of course. Then it's hydrodynamical to wear it.

Hey Naliitr, I agree. A short skirt does nothing for a girl.
Finally! Someone who agrees with me!

If they wear JUST the speedo and no pants, I'd be appauled. Unless they were swimming, of course. Then it's hydrodynamical to wear it.
What if they're on the beech, but not swimming, just lounging on the beech.

Hey Naliitr, I agree. A short skirt does nothing for a girl.
You don't know many girls with nice legs, do you?

People who like judging people based on their fashion sense.
It is plausible that a persons fashion sense can provide insight into a persons personality.

What if they're on the beech, but not swimming, just lounging on the beech.
Speedo's ARE beach clothes, so I wouldn't care. I'd just try my best not to look.

It is plausible that a persons fashion sense can provide insight into a persons personality.
Not really. It can provide information regarding how good they feel about themselves as people who feel good about themselves will show off their assets while people who feel like crap about themselves tend to hide behind clothes.

Speedo's ARE beach clothes, so I wouldn't care. I'd just try my best not to look.
And you've never seen a guy in short shorts? I have once or twice. Not necessarily the best look, but I don't judge him to be a slut for it.

Because I'm not a jerk.

2. Then that makes me think lowly of them.
What is wrong with sex without love? Maybe it's not for you; but why the superiority complex when you see those who do want that?

Ok people! Who here thinks emo, goth, prep, and gangsta, are all personality types?
They aren't. Most people grow out of these fashion trends and turn into different adults.

It is plausible that a persons fashion sense can provide insight into a persons personality.
When they are adults, yes, to an extent. In the teenage years people are, to put it briefly, crazy - and that rule does not apply.

What is wrong with sex without love? Maybe it's not for you; but why the superiority complex when you see those who do want that?


They aren't. Most people grow out of these fashion trends and turn into different adults.


When they are adults, yes, to an extent. In the teenage years people are, to put it briefly, crazy - and that rule does not apply.

That is a fucking wicked sig. *Bows*

And you've never seen a guy in short shorts? I have once or twice. Not necessarily the best look, but I don't judge him to be a slut for it.

Because I'm not a jerk.
1. No, and I truely doubt you have unless he was a male stripper.

2. Ok, so determining that a woman wearing pants/skirts that street walkers normally wear is a slut is making me a jerk? Wow. So I suppose simply saying thank you makes you the nicest person on Earth. :rolleyes:

1. No, and I truely doubt you have unless he was a male stripper.

2. Ok, so determining that a woman wearing pants/skirts that street walkers normally wear is a slut is making me a jerk? Wow. So I suppose simply saying thank you makes you the nicest person on Earth. :rolleyes:
1. I have and I've never been to a male strip club.

2. Referring to young ladies as streetwalkers and sluts because they choose to wear a cool, comfy skirt on a hot day makes you a jerk.

What is wrong with sex without love? Maybe it's not for you; but why the superiority complex when you see those who do want that?


They aren't. Most people grow out of these fashion trends and turn into different adults.


When they are adults, yes, to an extent. In the teenage years people are, to put it briefly, crazy - and that rule does not apply.
Sex without love is like lemonade without sugar. You can still have it, but it's very bitter. Thing is, one person usually thinks that the other person DOES love them, so when the other person does break up with the person who thinks the other person loves them, that person is heart-broken.

1. I have and I've never been to a male strip club.

2. Referring to young ladies as streetwalkers and sluts because they choose to wear a cool, comfy skirt on a hot day makes you a jerk.
2. I never called them street walkers, I said they wear clothes that I see streetwalkers wearing. And believe me, I think if I was girl halfway up the thigh would be short enough to be comfortable. They don't have to be all the way up the thigh!

Sex without love is like lemonade without sugar. You can still have it, but it's very bitter. Thing is, one person usually thinks that the other person DOES love them, so when the other person does break up with the person who thinks the other person loves them, that person is heart-broken.

What's not to like?

Sex without love is like lemonade without sugar.
No it's not.

You can still have it, but it's very bitter.
No it's not.

Thing is, one person usually thinks that the other person DOES love them,
Not usually.

so when the other person does break up with the person who thinks the other person loves them, that person is heart-broken.
Not usually.

I thing you're having issues because you're pretending that you know more than you do about grown ups and their relationships. Go play with your GI Joes.

2. I never called them street walkers, I said they wear clothes that I see streetwalkers wearing. And believe me, I think if I was girl halfway up the thigh would be short enough to be comfortable. They don't have to be all the way up the thigh!
No, you just called them sluts and compared them to prostitutes. I think you may have called them whores a couple times early on too.

And again, who the hell do you think you are that you have the right to tell other people what should be comfortable for them and what they should wear?

And again, who the hell do you think you are that you have the right to tell other people what should be comfortable for them and what they should wear?
I said I think it would be comfortable. And it seems logical it would be.

Go play with your GI Joes.
:eek: The flames! THE FLAMES! Get the water bucket! It's all burning! IT'S BURNING!

Seriously. If you see a girl who's shorts are up at the end of her thigh, what is the first thought that comes to mind? "Slut", of course.

"woah!Nice legs!!!"

I said I think it would be comfortable. And it seems logical it would be.
There's a logic to comfort? What if a girl is only comfortable in a really short skirt? What if she doesn't like her movements restricted by one that goes halfway down her thighs? You don't know anything about the comfort of a skirt, as you have never worn one.

:eek: The flames! THE FLAMES! Get the water bucket! It's all burning! IT'S BURNING!
:rolleyes:
It doesn't change the fact that you don't know anything about sex or love.

Sex without love is like lemonade without sugar.

You having had neither sex with love nor without or in no sound position to judge.

Lets cut to the chase here: in my perception Nalitir is sexually attracted to these girls in their skimpy clothing, but is frightened by his desire for people from a social grouping whom he has previously written off as worthless. Thus the negative comments: he is telling himself that what he can't have is worthless, although deep down he knows that it intrigues and excites him.

You having had neither sex with love nor without or in no sound position to judge.

Lets cut to the chase here: in my perception Nalitir is sexually attracted to these girls in their skimpy clothing, but is frightened by his desire for people from a social grouping whom he has previously written off as worthless. Thus the negative comments: he is telling himself that what he can't have is worthless, although deep down he knows that it intrigues and excites him.
Ha. Bullshit. I don't enjoy girls who wear skimpy clothing. If I see a girl wearing a LONG skirt, I am much more intriuged. And they wrote me off as worthless first, so I just returned the favor.

And in case you Brits (Or wherever you hail from) don't know, American school children wear Physical Education uniforms when we go to Physical Educations.

Actually, American kids don't. Perhaps kids in Fairfield, California do. Or perhaps Californian students in general, but American students as a whole don't.

Anyway, I think that Nailtir is just frustrated. Things are changing and he's finding the world doesn't fit the black and white preconceptions he has.

Sorry brother, but life isn't a fairy tale, and most people aren't all that interested in serious love until a bit later in their lives.

Also, emo, gangsta, etc. are just names you people come up with for your cliques in high school. Trust me, at your first reunion (I had my 5 year last spring) none of that will mean anything.

And they wrote me off as worthless first, so I just returned the favor.


Bingo bango. That's our answer. You've got serious self esteem issues, and in your frustrated bitterness you lash out at the people you think wronged you in some way.

You having had neither sex with love nor without or in no sound position to judge.

Lets cut to the chase here: in my perception Nalitir is sexually attracted to these girls in their skimpy clothing, but is frightened by his desire for people from a social grouping whom he has previously written off as worthless. Thus the negative comments: he is telling himself that what he can't have is worthless, although deep down he knows that it intrigues and excites him.
That seems about right.

You having had neither sex with love nor without or in no sound position to judge.

Lets cut to the chase here: in my perception Nalitir is sexually attracted to these girls in their skimpy clothing, but is frightened by his desire for people from a social grouping whom he has previously written off as worthless. Thus the negative comments: he is telling himself that what he can't have is worthless, although deep down he knows that it intrigues and excites him.

Yes I know about this. I was attracted to but suspicious of girls for many years, until I got laid. I've loved them ever since.

I was attracted to short, stretchy skirts for years before I realized I enjoy a sprightly fanny. And I've loved T&A ever since. :D

Yes I know about this. I was attracted to but suspicious of girls for many years, until I got laid.

Fear, suspicion and hatred are all perfectly 'healthy' parts of being a 13 year old male. Getting stuck at that stage isn't too healthy though.

And they wrote me off as worthless first, so I just returned the favor.

Translated: One or more girls rejected me, so now I hate them and everybody who dresses like them and must make them worthless in my mindset.

That's how it sounds like to me.

Translated: One or more girls rejected me, so now I hate them and everybody who dresses like them and must make them worthless in my mindset.

That's how it sounds like to me.
Yeah, that really does sound like it. I think he's also trying to place himself as being better than they are. Perhaps an attempt to feel less shitty about himself.

Compare my tastes in women and what I like seeing in women to the average 13 year old male.

Lower body clothing

Me: Long pants or skirts.

Average: Short shorts/Short skirts

Upper body clothing

Me: Baggy shirt or jacket

Average: Tank top, tight shirt

Face

Me: Green eyes, Short raven hair, no makeup.

Average: Brown eyes, long brown hair, lots of makeup.

Upper body

Me: Average weight, B or A cup

Average: Skinny, C, D, or Double D cup.

Lower body

Me: Average weight

Average: Skinny

Personality

Me: Intelligent, Independent, Completely honest.

Average: Stupid (So they can be taken advantage of), Submissive (Same as before), and lies to them so that they don't have to face the fact of themselves.