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Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

YMMA! This song is Muhammed with it!:D

Well, when you teach your kids that women who don't wear a headscarf and remain covered from head to toe are promiscuous and that secular women are sluts, you've got to expect a certain segment of the teenage and young adult male population to take it as license to rape. If Muslims in Denmark want to reduce the number of their young men commiting rapes, they'd better start teaching them that women can wear whatever they want and it doesn't mean they want to fuck.

Well, when you teach your kids that women who don't wear a headscarf and remain covered from head to toe are promiscuous and that secular women are sluts, you've got to expect a certain segment of the teenage and young adult male population to take it as license to rape. If Muslims in Denmark want to reduce the number of their young men commiting rapes, they'd better start teaching them that women can wear whatever they want and it doesn't mean they want to fuck.
I know. It's ridicolous...oh, that women isn't wearing a Burhka! She's some lousy Allah hating slut! You know what that means, right?

That may be the shortest article to ever get used to start a thread.

I know. It's ridicolous...oh, that women isn't wearing a Burhka! She's some lousy Allah hating slut! You know what that means, right?

Those burkha's and stuff will be mandatory in Norway 70 years later. Because muslims will be a majority...

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....
Good idea, and all whites can return to Caucasia.

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

If you get to send all your ragheads back to their countries, can we send all our niggers back to Africa?

Or is racism only acceptable when it's done by Europeans in Europe?

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

1. I'd like some confirmation of your statistics.

2. Are you suggesting each country has a particular religion? I think not.

1. I'd like some confirmation of your statistics.

2. Are you suggesting each country has a particular religion? I think not.

1) They arent mine. It was published in a newspaper. It's police's statistics.

2) What? I'm saying all muslims should leave europe...

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html
Incorrect.
...in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority...
It does not say anything about religion, nor anything about these ethnic minorities being from muslim countries.

It does say, however, that muslim organisations are alarmed and wishes to do something about this problem.

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

Did you even read the article? It says 68% of rapes are committed by ethnic minorities, which, the last time I checked, includes more than muslims. Also, what orafice(love that word) did you pull the 2% muslim population out of, please?

Incorrect.

It does not say anything about religion, nor anything about these ethnic minorities being from muslim countries.

It does say, however, that muslim organisations are alarmed and wishes to do something about this problem.

It's a code word for muslim. It'd be a scandal if danish police became politically incorrect. PC ranks higher than public safety. That's why the story progresses with muslim organisations

Good idea, and all whites can return to Caucasia.
*speaks subtlely into a lapel mike*
He knows about Caucasia, take him down.
>.> <.<

Did you even read the article? It says 68% of rapes are committed by ethnic minorities, which, the last time I checked, includes more than muslims. Also, what orafice(love that word) did you pull the 2% muslim population out of, please?

Denmark has 2% muslim population

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/da.html

It's a code word for muslim. It'd be a scandal if danish police became politically incorrect. PC ranks higher than public safety. Also notes that the story progresses with muslim organisations

No, somehow I think ethnic minorities is a codeword for ethnic minorities, not Muslims. But I must just be talking absolute crazy.

It's a code word for muslim. It'd be a scandal if danish police became politically incorrect. PC ranks higher than public safety. Also notes that the story progresses with muslim organisationsWow, you're a mindreader? <Bows to the power of Ny Nordland.>

It said ethnic minorities not muslims. And what they should do is lock away the rapists. people always go on about statistics whenever they suit them. If natives commited more of a certain crime then their percentage would account for would they all stand up and say sorry and leave

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....
That source is old, second or third hand, and it doesn't really say much. Do you have more recent statistics of crime in Denmark? Preferably compiled by the government or an international institution. Primary sources of information are prefered.

I know. It's ridicolous...oh, that women isn't wearing a Burhka! She's some lousy Allah hating slut! You know what that means, right?
Many rapists think that rape is an poetically just punishment for wearing "revealing" clothes. They know that their victim will be damaged by it. They see it as a just punishment for daring to wear such clothes.

All I have to say is :headbang:

That source is old, second or third hand, and it doesn't really say much. Do you have more recent statistics of crime in Denmark? Preferably compiled by the government or an international institution. Primary sources of information are prefered.

This one from Sweden...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552

2) What? I'm saying all muslims should leave europe...
Even Serbian Muslims?

Even Serbian Muslims?

Sorry...Except bosnians and albanians

Many rapists think that rape is an poetically just punishment for wearing "revealing" clothes. They know that their victim will be damaged by it. They see it as a just punishment for daring to wear such clothes.
I know that. They are pathetic and morally inept idiots, those rapists are.

Many rapists think that rape is an poetically just punishment for wearing "revealing" clothes. They know that their victim will be damaged by it. They see it as a just punishment for daring to wear such clothes.

I'm no pyschologist or rapist, but I thought it'd be more of a 'she was asking for it, wearing something so revealing' rather than 'I was punishing her for wearing something so revealing'. Then again there are more flavours of crazy than there are ice cream these days :(

I thought that the Koran strongly opposed rape? I know it's not the best on women's rights, from a western point of view anyway, but I was under the impression that it still outlawed rape, much less encourages it, nomatter what the woman wears. Sorry if this is inaccurate though, I have only read bits of the Koran, and do not follow that religion (well, no religion for that matter), it was just something I read somewhere.

I hate rapists though, I don't give a shit if their religion TOLD them to do it, they need to die. I think if you are convicted of raping another human being, aside from maybe things like statutory rape in certain conditions... as in, where one is 16 and the other is 18 for example, but they both conscented, they should just kill you. That is totally unacceptable, and rapists are a disgrace to the human race. Thats one of the worst things you could do to somebody... anybody who does it does not deserve to live. The rape sentances in my country are disgustingly leniant as well, which pisses me off. You can go rape some 12 year old here and get in jail for like a year... rediculas.

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html
This is very much not a solid board on which to base far-right wing views. Most Muslims abhor rape. There are a few loonies who must be deported, but I think for the most part it is better to educate the rest in liberal western ways so that they can become productive members of our society. Some, especially women, will also return to their nations of ancestry and show people there how much better life is in liberal Europe and in the ultra-conservative hell holes of the Middle East.

This one from Sweden...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552
Third hand, biased, and not statistical at all. Try again.

It's a code word for muslim.
No, Ixmal is the codeword, haven't you paid attention? Sheesh! :rolleyes:

Why don't you like Muhammed Ali? He's Ixmal, you know!

Oh, and this article is from 2001 - do you know the situation today?

Sorry...Except bosnians and albaniansSo then what you're saying is that you're racist as opposed to anti-Muslim. I'll keep that in mind.

It's a code word for muslim. It'd be a scandal if danish police became politically incorrect. PC ranks higher than public safety. That's why the story progresses with muslim organisations

A "code word?"

Yeah, okay there. :rolleyes:

People like you will pull any "statistic" out of your ass to prove your bigoted bullshit. And then when it fails, you resort to the same kinds of excuses schizophrenics give when their conspiracy delusions turn out to be false.

This is very much not a solid board on which to base far-right wing views. Most Muslims abhor rape. There are a few loonies who must be deported, but I think for the most part it is better to educate the rest in liberal western ways so that they can become productive members of our society. Some, especially women, will also return to their nations of ancestry and show people there how much better life is in liberal Europe and in the ultra-conservative hell holes of the Middle East.

Yeah...those liberal muslim majority. I think it's a myth

A "code word?"

Yeah, okay there. :rolleyes:

People like you will pull any "statistic" out of your ass to prove your bigoted bullshit. And then when it fails, you resort to the same kinds of excuses schizophrenics give when their conspiracy delusions turn out to be false.

I will not lower myself to your standarts of name calling...

Just read this

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552

I'm no pyschologist or rapist, but I thought it'd be more of a 'she was asking for it, wearing something so revealing' rather than 'I was punishing her for wearing something so revealing'. Then again there are more flavours of crazy than there are ice cream these days :(
I've read up on Muslim rapists before. Most of them follow this line of thinking.

This one from Sweden...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552
Oh God, not Fjordman again!! :(

This one from Sweden...

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552
December 15, 2005
:rolleyes: Maybe all the evil muslims left and nobody told you. I'm sure all the crimes will stop any day now once they get the last few stragglers.

So then what you're saying is that you're racist as opposed to anti-Muslim. I'll keep that in mind.

I wouldnt want a large number of white americans moving to europe neither....

I wouldnt want a large number of white americans moving to europe neither....Ah, xenophobia it is, then. Because everybody knows that people born on one side of an invisible line are better than people born on the other side...

*speaks subtlely into a lapel mike*
He knows about Caucasia, take him down.
>.> <.<

First off: <3

Secondly: "Minorities" are more than just muslims, even in Denmark. The 68% minority rape thing -IS- alarming, but that just means education and punishment need to be jammed upward, not forced emigration.

1) They arent mine. It was published in a newspaper. It's police's statistics.

2) What? I'm saying all muslims should leave europe...

1) No. The paper makes passing comment to a stastic that doesn't match what you said about it. I'd like to see the real statistics, please.

2) Not all muslims are immigrants.

First off: <3

Secondly: "Minorities" are more than just muslims, even in Denmark. The 68% minority rape thing -IS- alarming, but that just means education and punishment need to be jammed upward, not forced emigration.

I agree, but how is that related to me.....em.....not doing anything out of the ordinary....>.> <.<

I will not lower myself to your standarts of name calling...

Just read this

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552

LOL. This anti-immigrant tripe doesn't even conform to your hatred of muslims.

You know, honestly, I'm glad that N.S General is very open minded. Sure we still have some people who like to look at one side of things, but that's just a minority.

Anywho, saying "Muslims should leave Europe" is like saying American's should leave America and give it back to the Native Americans and other presently-minority groups that inhabited America before Europeans did.

Does that seem ridiculous and impossible? Yes, so does your Muslim-Europe Statement.

Yeah...those liberal muslim majority. I think it's a myth
You can think what you want. You'll still be wrong. Try this:

Find the number of rapes last year in Denmark.
Multiply by 0.68.

Find the number of ethnic minority members in Denmark. Divide this into the second number and multiply by 100. That will tell you roughly what percentage of ethnic minority members are rapists.

1) No. The paper makes passing comment to a stastic that doesn't match what you said about it. I'd like to see the real statistics, please.

2) Not all muslims are immigrants.

Real statistics? If denmark started publishing statistics based on religion it'd be a scandal. Pro-immigrant and politically correct people just cant handle that(truth). So I cant link u directly to a police statistic. However these are news. Any scandinavian will verify these sort of events.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

I agree, but how is that related to me.....em.....not doing anything out of the ordinary....>.> <.<

I know, I just wanted to give you the <3 and go on to spank the OP.

You can think what you want. You'll still be wrong. Try this:

Find the number of rapes last year in Denmark.
Multiply by 0.68.

Find the number of ethnic minority members in Denmark. Divide this into the second number and multiply by 100. That will tell you roughly what percentage of ethnic minority members are rapists.

That's assuming that none of them are serial rapists. Or simply repeat offenders the Danish police have been too incompetent to catch.

LOL. This anti-immigrant tripe doesn't even conform to your hatred of muslims.

I dont hate them. I wish they live happily. just not in europe (bosnians and albanians excluded)

Real statistics? If denmark started publishing statistics based on religion it'd be a scandal. Pro-immigrant and politically correct people just cant handle that(truth). So I cant link u directly to a police statistic. However these are news. Any scandinavian will verify these sort of events.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

Cute excuses for why you can't find a real source.

You claimed they were police statistics. Now you claim those same statistics don't exist.

I will not lower myself to your standarts of name calling...

Just read this

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20552

What name did I call you?

I just pointed out that your behavior is similar to that of delusional schizophrenics. When the facts don't fit your beliefs you assert that they must be politically correct conspiracy lies. When they do fit your beliefs, you tout them as God's Truth.

But frankly, since people like you would gladly use a woman's rape as an excuse to bash Islam, I really think you're in no position to play sensitive and offended here.

I dont hate them. I wish they live happily. just not in europe (bosnians and albanians excluded)
Why not? They were here for a long time, in Spain, you know.

I dont hate them. I wish they live happily. just not in europe (bosnians and albanians excluded)

And I wish you to live happily.

In North Korea.

Good idea, and all whites can return to Caucasia.
Too late. Muslims have taken over Caucasia as well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3632274.stm

I dont hate them. I wish they live happily. just not in europe (bosnians and albanians excluded)

So... you want apartheid between countries?

Real statistics? If denmark started publishing statistics based on religion it'd be a scandal. Pro-immigrant and politically correct people just cant handle that(truth). So I cant link u directly to a police statistic. However these are news. Any scandinavian will verify these sort of events.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

You do realize that Islam doesn't permit rape. So generalizing to hate Muslims just shows your ignorant against those few in the World's Muslim Population -- who you should actually be against.

-Shakes head at the World's ignorance-

You can think what you want. You'll still be wrong. Try this:

Find the number of rapes last year in Denmark.
Multiply by 0.68.

Find the number of ethnic minority members in Denmark. Divide this into the second number and multiply by 100. That will tell you roughly what percentage of ethnic minority members are rapists.

Ok assume we have majority muslim population, in future, here in norway.

How likely it is they'd tolerate gays and lesbians?

Ok assume we have majority muslim population, in future, here in norway.

How likely it is they'd tolerate gays and lesbians?

About as likely as Christians and Jews to tolerate gays and lesbians.

Next!

Too late. Muslims have taken over Caucasia as well.<Gasp!> Oh well, I guess we can all move to Norway, then.

That's assuming that none of them are serial rapists. Or simply repeat offenders the Danish police have been too incompetent to catch.
I'm aware of that. But I'm confident enough that even that approach will show that rapists are an extreme minority among Muslims.

1) No. The paper makes passing comment to a stastic that doesn't match what you said about it. I'd like to see the real statistics, please.

2) Not all muslims are immigrants.

Furthermore, I would add that people - for example rapists - who say that they raped someone because they were Muslim - are full of shit.

It's an EXCUSE. "I didn't rape someone. Islam made me do it!"

What's sickeningly perverse is that the rapists who use the excuse of religion, are in complete agreement with the xenophoboes. They BOTH agree, they BOTH give this handy dandy excuse that removes the concept of personal responsibility. Rapists are sick degenerate criminals and it has NOTHING to do with whatever religion they happen to be following.

What name did I call you?

I just pointed out that your behavior is similar to that of delusional schizophrenics. When the facts don't fit your beliefs you assert that they must be politically correct conspiracy lies. When they do fit your beliefs, you tout them as God's Truth.

But frankly, since people like you would gladly use a woman's rape as an excuse to bash Islam, I really think you're in no position to play sensitive and offended here.

Ok. Think it like this then. Ethnic minority is less than 10% in denmark. But they commit 68% of rapes...

Ok assume we have majority muslim population, in future, here in norway.

How likely it is they'd tolerate gays and lesbians?

It depends. If you didn't over-generalize this by thinking all Muslims are the same, then maybe your question would be more educated-like and our answer would be also.

If you're talking about Extremists (which DON'T dominate the majority of Muslims), then not so well. And think about this, Islam is the fastest growing religion in America, and a lot of Muslims live in America, but do homosexuals feel unsafe around Muslims and are there a lot of homosexual-related crime done by Muslims? No.

Cute excuses for why you can't find a real source.

You claimed they were police statistics. Now you claim those same statistics don't exist.

CANT YOU READ??

I said there were no police reports based on religion. But there are police reports based on ethnicity...

Ok assume we have majority muslim population, in future, here in norway.

How likely it is they'd tolerate gays and lesbians?
That's just a red herring. I didn't say that I wanted a majority Muslim population. Such a population would be rather less tolerant of gays than I would like.

About as likely as Christians and Jews to tolerate gays and lesbians.
That's not quite true. Muslims tend to be much more socially conservative than Christians and Jews in Europe.

Ok. Think it like this then. Ethnic minority is less than 10% in denmark. But they commit 68% of rapes...

And most muders in the US are committed by minorities.

The only people suggesting that we Americans do the same thing you Norwegian seem to think is a good idea are card-carrying members of the KKK.

Ok. Think it like this then. Ethnic minority is less than 10% in denmark. But they commit 68% of rapes...Ethnic minorities in Denmark could include a lot of things, including Serbs and Albanians.

About as likely as Christians and Jews to tolerate gays and lesbians.

Next!

Norway is already mostly christian. Yet we tolerate gays and lesbians. Actually in our case tolerate is a wrong word. We give them full rights, accept them as equals(me included)...

Ok. Think it like this then. Ethnic minority is less than 10% in denmark. But they commit 68% of rapes...

That might be true. But so what? Your point is that "ethnic minorities" are all rapists and should leave your beautiful country?

People like you also point out the large number of Jews in the Neo-Conservative ranks and then use it to indicate how Jews control the world and how Hitler was right. I mean hey, Jews are like 2% of the population but 17% of the Bush Administration, right? OMG ITS A PLOT!

However these are news. Any scandinavian will verify these sort of events.

news =/= truth

and no, not any scandinavian will verify these sort of events. I hear more bull from right wing groups than I do from muslims.

Telling muslims to leave Eurrope isn't going to change their thinking. They need re-education, they need to be shown what trauma they've caused, and they need to be given life sentences for rape.

And I think Ny Nordland's point is that the muslim population is so small, yet they committed such a high percentage of rapes, so what would happen if the muslim population was bigger?!

People like you also point out the large number of Jews in the Neo-Conservative ranks and then use it to indicate how Jews control the world and how Hitler was right. I mean hey, Jews are like 2% of the population but 17% of the Bush Administration, right? OMG ITS A PLOT!

Is then when I set fire to myself in protest?

That's just a red herring. I didn't say that I wanted a majority Muslim population. Such a population would be rather less tolerant of gays than I would like.

That's the trend. It'll be in future. Say thx to open minded pro-immigrants, like in this forum, who criticize me....

news =/= truth

and no, not any scandinavian will verify these sort of events. I hear more bull from right wing groups than I do from muslims.

Depends on your definition of right wing...Some of my views are considered left I think.

Norway is already mostly christian. Yet we tolerate gays and lesbians. Actually in our case tolerate is a wrong word. We give them full rights, accept them as equals(me included)...

I'm sure that Norway, like much of the world, is populated by people who say they are of a certain religion, but don't actually practice it, and just go about their lives in the exact same manner as their next door neighbor (who is of a different faith, entirely).

Telling muslims to leave Eurrope isn't going to change their thinking. They need re-education, they need to be shown what trauma they've caused, and they need to be given life sentences for rape.

And I think Ny Nordland's point is that the muslim population is so small, yet they committed such a high percentage of rapes, so what would happen if the muslim population was bigger?!

If you would, read earlier in the thread, the short article said that 68% of rape is commited by minorities (NOT Muslims), which was pointed out by our few analysists here.

Ohh, and so if you mean "Muslims" by all, then am I correct to say that all American Troops abroad need re-education in not abusing their occupation powers? No.

Telling muslims to leave Eurrope isn't going to change their thinking. They need re-education, they need to be shown what trauma they've caused, and they need to be given life sentences for rape.

And I think Ny Nordland's point is that the muslim population is so small, yet they committed such a high percentage of rapes, so what would happen if the muslim population was bigger?!

The same thing that happened to the Irish population of the US when they finally got settled in.

Defends on your definition of right wing...Some of my views are considered left I think.

Depends is the word you're looking for.

I wasn't talking about your views in particular, I was just pointing out that I have heard more bull from right-wing parties than I have from muslims.

CANT YOU READ??

I said there were no police reports based on religion. But there are police reports based on ethnicity...

Then link to those police reports. QED.

Then link to those police reports. QED.

I link u to media sources which cite security authorities as sources. Danish police force wouldnt make announcements in english anyways...If you want, search it yourself....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1372959/posts

It might not be the same situation entirely, but I can't help but think of the argument put forth when the gay debate first started flaring up in America - "If we allow this to continue, then in 100 years EVERYONE will become gay!" - seriously, there's a reason they're coming to another country. The majority of them probably don't agree with what's going on in the mid-east so have gone to other countries to escape it.

It might not be the same situation entirely, but I can't help but think of the argument put forth when the gay debate first started flaring up in America - "If we allow this to continue, then in 100 years EVERYONE will become gay!" - seriously, there's a reason they're coming to another country. The majority of them probably don't agree with what's going on in the mid-east so have gone to other countries to escape it.

They are coming here for money, jobs. Or perhaps invasion on a sub-conscious level

They are coming here for money, jobs. Or perhaps invasion on a sub-conscious level

And God forbid that anyone should have money or a job.

And God forbid that anyone should have money or a job.

Inorite.

Criminals are criminals, regardless of ethnicity or religion. We don't kick out west virginia from the union because of the huge amount of hicks that appear on cops drunk and disorderly and violent, do we?

I link u to media sources which cite security authorities as sources. Danish police force wouldnt make announcements in english anyways...If you want, search it yourself....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1372959/posts

If you want me to believe it, provide it.

Racist bloggers don't count as security authorities.

The same thing that happened to the Irish population of the US when they finally got settled in.

But the Irish didnt hate the US, and didn't come from a totally different culture. Thats what I dont understand about muslim immigrants. they say how awful our countries are, that our women are sluts and we are immoral, so why the hell do they come here? I can understand them fleeing countries that have been fucked up by fundamentlists, like afghanistan, iran, saudi arabia etc, but they seem to want to make european countries just like the ones they had to leave because they were so awful. and then where will they emmigrate to?

They are coming here for money, jobs. Or perhaps invasion on a sub-conscious level

This is exactly what I was talking about. You have a bunker mentality regarding all foreigners: you assume that their presence here is an INVASION!

And THAT is what the illegal immigration issue in the US is about too. The border control freaks do not care about that there's a law being broken - people break laws all the time but the border control freaks are MOST upset about not filing some stupid paperwork at a border post? Yeah right. No, they're upset because they think their country is being invaded. Case in point.

They are coming here for money, jobs. Or perhaps invasion on a sub-conscious level

A sub-conscious invasion? How would that work, not paying attention when you're driving a tank?

I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html

under your logic shouldn't all white people go back to europe for the rape and murder of Native Americans?

I would like to add (as a Dane):

Last time I checked, the rate of Muslims here was 8% (~6 months ago). According to the CIA that number is too high. But hey, they also said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction... Get my point?

And yes, in 2001 we had a lot of rapes here, mostly group rapes committed by second or third generation immigrants. That number is, however, greatly reduced at this time. I just looked at the official statistics from our police force. It does not show any statistics based on religion - rapes not excluded.

And by the way, that freerepublic seems propagandist to me.

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

No, minorities commit 68% of reported and convicted rapes. The are doubtless not commiting 68% of rapes, and are probably commiting many less than that, but on the other hand, people are probably more will to report them due to their prejudices, than they would be to report a native white male.

But the Irish didnt hate the US, and didn't come from a totally different culture. Thats what I dont understand about muslim immigrants. they say how awful our countries are, that our women are sluts and we are immoral, so why the hell do they come here? I can understand them fleeing countries that have been fucked up by fundamentlists, like afghanistan, iran, saudi arabia etc, but they seem to want to make european countries just like the ones they had to leave because they were so awful. and then where will they emmigrate to?

Some of them think the West is the embodiment(sp?) of evil, yes. But I would have though it goes without saying that most of the Muslims here don't think that. Otherwise they'd leave.

Ok assume we have majority muslim population, in future, here in norway.

How likely it is they'd tolerate gays and lesbians?
Depends, the problem isn't Islam you see. It's much more likely that the problem can be traced back to the culture from which the ethnic minorities hail. Immigrants from war-torn countries and cultures where rape is used as a weapon are more at risk to perform such criminal acts themselves if they aren't assimilated properly - regardless of their religion.
I link u to media sources which cite security authorities as sources. Danish police force wouldnt make announcements in english anyways...If you want, search it yourself....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1372959/posts
:rolleyes: Again with the Fjordman rants! Get away from me aaaaah!!

No, minorities commit 68% of reported and convicted rapes. The are doubtless not commiting 68% of rapes, and are probably commiting many less than that, but on the other hand, people are probably more will to report them due to their prejudices, than they would be to report a native white male.

An interesting point, maybe we're coming at this the wrong way. What does it say about a society where 68% of the reported rapes were committed by ethnic minorities?

Telling muslims to leave Eurrope isn't going to change their thinking. They need re-education, they need to be shown what trauma they've caused, and they need to be given life sentences for rape.

And I think Ny Nordland's point is that the muslim population is so small, yet they committed such a high percentage of rapes, so what would happen if the muslim population was bigger?!

I'd actually like to comment on this:

Let's say - for the sake of argument - that the Muslim population in Norway skyrocketed. I don't know...maybe some crazy Muslim/Twinkie Diet to make you loose weight through sugar and faith. The point is, Muslims now represent 98% of the religious power in the country, while other religions represent 2%. I suppose - if you take the statistics that have been thrown around here - you'd see that 2% committing more rapes than the Muslim majority. Why? Because when one is politically and culturally clamped down, one enters a depraved state. Everyone is suddenly the enemy. Whether it's Whitey or Christ-y, the majority represents a constant attack on your way of life. Look at any minority group in a country. They are most concerned with their beliefs, ways or life, or other cultural traits being destroyed. So, what happens? They usually are placed in economic conditions that allow for lashing out, or they become depraved enough that - in a grotesque execution of their pent-up rage - commit a crime. And what better way than raping a majorities' daughter?

That aside, I'm amazed we're still throwing these numbers around.

The original article states 68% of rapes were committed by ethnic minorities. ETHNIC minorities. Ethnic means, "Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage." Now, never in the entire article does it say that the statistics were aimed at religious ethnicities. For all we know, the police report said that middle-eastern ethnicities were involved. Or, just Pakistani ethnicities. Muslims are a religious minority. The Muslim leaders were trying to curb their youth - or just flat-out denounce the rapers. That was the point of the article - not to instigate Muslims as the main source of the rapings.

And that last article produced, this one: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502. Er...no offense, but it's horribly slanted. The way I like to first judge an online article is by the banners on the side. Look for a minute at what's playing past: "Conservative Teens," "Through Superior Firepower Peace," "Discover the Network's Guide to the Political Left." This is a right-wing article designed to present a very radical look at the rape crisis. Read other articles on the site and you'll see what I mean. Most are slanted towards the conservative aspect.

I'm a moderate in the political arena. Now, it is very hard to find unslanted articles - but one must always be wary about which facts, figures, testimonies, etc. any slanted article produced. Who knows how they have been altered. Thus, if someone can find an article countering this one, I would be interested. Then we'd have some comparison. However, I must say that this is not a good stand-alone source - or a good collaborative source, given the questionable quality/interpretations of the previous sources.

Now, if you excuse me, I am going to devour an entire hoagie in a vicious display of primal hunger/anger.

The article writer should get involved in politics. HE has a skill for it.

Mention that minorities commit 68% of rapes and then talks about Muslim groups working on teaching the young that rape is wrong. End result. Muslims are committing 68% of rapes.

Sorry but I would want to see their numbers for the claim. What in fact are these minorities?

Would not a Brit, German, Canadian, American living in Denmark be considered a minority?

If you want me to believe it, provide it.

Racist bloggers don't count as security authorities.

Copenhagen Post is a newspaper, not a racist blogger...Read my 1st post...

No, minorities commit 68% of reported and convicted rapes. The are doubtless not commiting 68% of rapes, and are probably commiting many less than that, but on the other hand, people are probably more will to report them due to their prejudices, than they would be to report a native white male.

Yes, of course, women dont mind being raped by white guys! that explains it all.

A sub-conscious invasion? How would that work, not paying attention when you're driving a tank?

Making u a minority in your own country by constantly breeding and immigrating....

under your logic shouldn't all white people go back to europe for the rape and murder of Native Americans?

I dont approve what europeans did to americas....They destroyed entire civilizations....

Making u a minority in your own country by constantly breeding and immigrating....

You could breed too. Then you could say to your wife, "Hey honey, let's counter-attack the immigrants today" instead of "Please, give me sex."

But the Irish didnt hate the US, and didn't come from a totally different culture. Thats what I dont understand about muslim immigrants. they say how awful our countries are, that our women are sluts and we are immoral, so why the hell do they come here? I can understand them fleeing countries that have been fucked up by fundamentlists, like afghanistan, iran, saudi arabia etc, but they seem to want to make european countries just like the ones they had to leave because they were so awful. and then where will they emmigrate to?

They came from a completely different culture and came to the US in search of jobs and money. (And they were hated for it. Their culture and their jobs and money. They were as tolerated as black people were. Where do you think the term 'black Irish' came from?)

Muslims moving to the US come from a completely different culture and come to the US in search of jobs and money. (And they are hated for it. Their culture and their jobs and money. They are as tolerated as black people are. Where do you think the term 'sand (or dust) ******' comes from?)

The Muslims moving to the US are not the Muslims that hate the US. The Muslims that hate the US are sitting in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, and Palestine, stroking their AKMs, RPGs, and high explosives. They [the Muslim immigrants] may support Islamic Jihad and Hamas, but the Irish [immigrants] who moved to the US supported the IRA. The differences far out-weigh the similarities.

Some of them think the West is the embodiment(sp?) of evil, yes. But I would have though it goes without saying that most of the Muslims here don't think that. Otherwise they'd leave.

obviously thats true, but the ones that cause most of the problems, and most of the ill feeling towards immigrants, do think that.

I would like to add (as a Dane):

Last time I checked, the rate of Muslims here was 8% (~6 months ago). According to the CIA that number is too high. But hey, they also said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction... Get my point?

And yes, in 2001 we had a lot of rapes here, mostly group rapes committed by second or third generation immigrants. That number is, however, greatly reduced at this time. I just looked at the official statistics from our police force. It does not show any statistics based on religion - rapes not excluded.

And by the way, that freerepublic seems propagandist to me.

8%? wow....
I believe we can trust cia when it comes to basic statistics instead of secret weapons programs...

"Hey honey, let's counter-attack the immigrants today"
Cute pick-up line :D

You could breed too. Then you could say to your wife, "Hey honey, let's counter-attack the immigrants today" instead of "Please, give me sex."

LOL....when or if I marry, perhaps...

Yes, of course, women dont mind being raped by white guys! that explains it all.

I didn't say they didn't mind, I said that they'd possibly resent it mildly less.

Yes, of course, women dont mind being raped by white guys! that explains it all.

Actually it does happen.

In the states we had the Twana Brawly incident. She claimed 6 white cops raped her.

http://www.courttv.com/archive/legaldocs/newsmakers/tawana/

I can't remember the case but a gal claimed a black kid raped her and some poor kid was shot when he was in the neighbor inquiring about a car. I think it was New York but take this claim with a grain of salt since it's my memory. ;)

Making u a minority in your own country by constantly breeding and immigrating....
:rolleyes:

Yes, of course, women dont mind being raped by white guys! that explains it all.

You missed the point of it all. Many rapes go unreported. Does that mean that all(or any) of those who were raped don't mind being raped? No, not at all. There are various reasons, such as being embarrassed of it, being afraid, or not wanting to be ostracised.

However, with any culture, there is an underlying stigma against minorities. Those who may not report being raped by a white person may not feel the same about reporting an ethnic minority.

I didn't say they didn't mind, I said that they'd possibly resent it mildly less.

Indeed.

In the Deep South, if a black man raped a white woman, they'd string him up and say that it was proof that black folk are inferior to white folk and are nothing but a lot of lusty, sex-crazed, criminals.

If a white man raped a white woman, the white woman was blamed and shamed for it, while the man would get to ride high on his horse.

You missed the point of it all. Many rapes go unreported. Does that mean that all(or any) of those who were raped don't mind being raped? No, not at all. There are various reasons, such as being embarrassed of it, being afraid, or not wanting to be ostracised.

However, with any culture, there is an underlying stigma against minorities. Those who may not report being raped by a white person may not feel the same about reporting an ethnic minority.

That's exactly what I meant, thank you very much :)

All this race talk. There is only one solution!

"All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color." Senator Jay Billington Bulworth

If you get to send all your ragheads back to their countries, can we send all our niggers back to Africa?

Or is racism only acceptable when it's done by Europeans in Europe?



Packing off criminal Islam immigrants has a lot more to do with them being foreign criminals than Islamic.

All this race talk. There is only one solution!

"All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color." Senator Jay Billington Bulworth


How boring humanity would be....all alike

Packing off criminal Islam immigrants has a lot more to do with them being foreign criminals than Islamic.

No. It has everything to do with them being Islamic and nothing to do with them being foreigners.

Packing off criminal Islam immigrants has a lot more to do with them being foreign criminals than Islamic.

Yes, however, the OP had stated to send ALL Muslims out. So yeah. Quite a bit different from this.

How boring humanity would be....all alike

Not at all. People would still be different, they'd just look very similar. And wouldn't that be a good thing?

CANT YOU READ??

I said there were no police reports based on religion. But there are police reports based on ethnicity...

Being Muslim means you practice Islam. That's not an ethnicity... Now, the ethnic label you may be thinking of here is Arab. Unfortunately for you, being Arab does not guarantee being Muslim.


Additionally, can we talk about the incredible right-wing bias in FrontPageMag.com? I mean, I expect bias in any newsource, but honestly...

Making u a minority in your own country by constantly breeding and immigrating....

Hey, that's how the Irish are going to take over the world!! Those Muslim bastards stole our plan!! I mean.......em.......eh.........*runs*


EDIT:Oh ya, how the funk is that subconscious?

obviously thats true, but the ones that cause most of the problems, and most of the ill feeling towards immigrants, do think that.
And you know this how? Please share with us your mind reading technology.

Being Muslim means you practice Islam. That's not an ethnicity... Now, the ethnic label you may be thinking of here is Arab. Unfortunately for you, being Arab does not guarantee being Muslim.
I'm betting on Somalian or Sudanese myself...

Edit: That ethnic label he might be thinking of, that is...

How boring humanity would be....all alike

I disagree.

Our immune systems would kick ass, and there would be no racism (except for those incredibly stupid bastards who would insist that those who are darker yet when compared to their already slightly dark skin would all be criminals).

And we'll all just mesh eventually, but everything is cyclical, so it would come back around to being divided, and then mesh again. It's the way the world works - a long time ago, everyone was the same color and had the same bone structure, then we evolved based on our climates and area of the world.

All this race talk. There is only one solution!

"All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep fuckin' everybody 'til they're all the same color." Senator Jay Billington Bulworth

YAY! Everybody gets some!

YAY! Everybody gets some!

"Even the fat kid with the 'Star Wars' T-Shirt! Yeah, even he got a little!"

How boring humanity would be....all alike

Genetically, we essentially are. Nothing boring about it.

I disagree.

Our immune systems would kick ass, and there would be no racism (except for those incredibly stupid bastards who would insist that those who are darker yet when compared to their already slightly dark skin would all be criminals).

And we'll all just mesh eventually, but everything is cyclical, so it would come back around to being divided, and then mesh again. It's the way the world works - a long time ago, everyone was the same color and had the same bone structure, then we evolved based on our climates and area of the world.
How do you figure our immune systems would kick ass because of that?

How do you figure our immune systems would kick ass because of that?

I've stated before that the interbreeding between races increases the immune system overall.

The whole "Woot, I get to nail an asian/latino/german/swedish/black chick!" thing is just a bonus and afterthought.

How do you figure our immune systems would kick ass because of that?

Because the likelihood of a virus mutating such that it would effect such a race of uebermensche would be nil. But were such a virus to evolve, we'd all die in 0.6 seconds.

Good.. Him getting even a little would probably make him the happiest fat star wars kid on earth.

Because the likelihood of a virus mutating such that it would effect such a race of uebermensche would be nil. But were such a virus to evolve, we'd all die in 0.6 seconds.

By the time we mesh that much, our science would be to the point where we could combat such a virus somewhat easily.

By the time we mesh that much, our science would be to the point where we could combat such a virus somewhat easily.

And then, five seconds later, the earth will be consumed by the expanding sun. :eek:

not to say anything.. but look at animals.

When you breed dogs and stick to only one exact breed, the dogs tend to get vicious and neurotic. Lots of inbreeding does that to them. However, when you get a mutt/blend of lotsa dog types, they can be the sweetest animals in the world.

Course upbringing has alot to do with it as well.

not to say anything.. but look at animals.

When you breed dogs and stick to only one exact breed, the dogs tend to get vicious and neurotic. Lots of inbreeding does that to them. However, when you get a mutt/blend of lotsa dog types, they can be the sweetest animals in the world.

Course upbringing has alot to do with it as well.

Dogs are a bad example. Inbreeding within families doesn't affect their genes as much as it does humans.

so.. inbreeding effects humans more.. or less? I thought it was worse for us.

so.. inbreeding effects humans more.. or less? I thought it was worse for us.

It affects humans more noticably, since we have more responsibilities. Like voting. If dogs could vote, inbreeding would be a bigger problem for them too when they did something brain-damagingly stupid, like vote for Bush.

It affects humans more noticably, since we have more responsibilities. Like voting. If dogs could vote, inbreeding would be a bigger problem for them too when they did something brain-damagingly stupid, like vote for Bush.

Or Kerry for that matter.

Or, hell, anyone who's running on a Republicant or Democrap ticket in the first place.

;)

Or Kerry for that matter.

Or, hell, anyone who's running on a Republicant or Democrap ticket in the first place.

;)


Exactly.

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe inbreeding isn't quite so noticable in humans anymore...

Mmh. I really didn't know what to make of this thread when I first read it and I have to admit that some of the numbers and figures presented did indeed seem shady to say the least, let alone the conclusions drawn by it.

But it got me interested in what the statistics look like in and for Germany (and what do you know - we keep statistics on pretty much everything!), so finding the numbers was fairly easy.

I've taken the liberty to use the CIA's World Fact Book for population statistics
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gm.html
for ethnic groups and religions and the the Federal Office of Criminal Investigation's report in crime for the year 2004
http://www.bka.de/pks/pks2004/index2.html
(PKS 2004 Gesamtausgabe) and whatever you want to make out of the statistic, it is interesting to compare facts and figures.

Germany's population: roughly 82 million

ethnicity: 91.5% Germans which leaves 8.5% to belong to a foreign background

religion: Protestant 34%, Roman Catholic 34%, Muslim 3.7%, unaffiliated or other 28.3%

Take a look at the report now:

p.109 T65 right table:

number of alleged criminals total: 2.267.920
number of alleged foreign criminals: 438.775 (without crimes linked to asylum)

That's about 20% of all the crimes committed by people who belong to 8.5% of the population who have a foreign background.

p.112 T67 key 1110 rape and sexual coercion

number of alleged criminals West & Berlin: 6513
number of alleged criminals East: 962
number of alleged foreign criminals West & Berlin: 2194
number of alleged foreign criminals East: 90

That's about 30% of all the crimes committed by people who belong to 8.5% of the population who have a foreign background.

I'm not going to make correlations between ethnicity and religion because the statistic wouldn't support it - but it is striking that foreigners seem to play a certain role in the crime statistics after all.

I honestly can't say what the reasons for this are for I don't want to speculate, but it is interesting and I thought I might share it here.

I honestly can't say what the reasons for this are for I don't want to speculate, but it is interesting and I thought I might share it here.
My money is on two things - relative poverty and a lack of integration, ie parallel communities in which the outlook on things like rape is drastically different.

I honestly can't say what the reasons for this are for I don't want to speculate, but it is interesting and I thought I might share it here.

It's actually not so surprising.

When the Irish first moved here, they formed gangs and became mobsters.

When the Italians first came here, they formed gangs and became mobsters (some of which is still around).

When the Chinese first came here, they did not form gangs, and were nearly driven out (and otherwise treated like shit by that most liberal of states, California)

More recent influxes of Chinese immigrants led to a brief spate of Triad-related violence and gang wars in the 1970s

Now there has been an influx of Russian immigrants and, with them, comes their own mob.

Violence always follows human beings, especially during times of uncertainty. And immigrants are in a new land, facing every sort of uncertainty one can imagine. It's only natural that a number of them turn to crime. BUT. That crime is often a result of oppressive natives (as in the case of the Irish, Italians, Chinese, and Russians in the US, and Muslims in Denmark, Germany, and France).

How boring humanity would be....all alike
As opposed to how boring Norway would be if you got your way -- solid Dolph Lundgrens from one end to the other. :rolleyes:

It's only natural that a number of them turn to crime. BUT. That crime is often a result of oppressive natives.
Wonderful, I'm glad somebody finally said it. It's obviously the fault of evil old whitey that these tolerant, salt of the earth, peace loving muslim folk turn to thieving, rape, murder and terrorism. We should be accomodating to these fine people, it's obviously the fault of those shameless infidel sluts that they were raped.

It's these wishy washy attitudes that are the reason why this kind of crime is so endemic among muslim immigrants. Whenever they commit crimes, apologists always crawl out and go on about how it's obviously out fault that they commited these crimes. If the rapists were given a taste of the hangman's noose I'm sure a lot of these immigrants would stop taking western spinelessness for granted. That said, sometimes there are people that are incapable of becoming a desireable addition to western society, and muslims definitely fit into that category. I'm not bothered if they hold those disgusting rapist attitudes - just as long as they're doing it in their own lands.

Wonderful, I'm glad somebody finally said it. It's obviously the fault of evil old whitey that these tolerant, salt of the earth, peace loving muslim folk turn to thieving, rape, murder and terrorism. We should be accomodating to these fine people, it's obviously the fault of those shameless infidel sluts that they were raped.

It's these wishy washy attitudes that are the reason why this kind of crime is so endemic among muslim immigrants. Whenever they commit crimes, apologists always crawl out and go on about how it's obviously out fault that they commited these crimes. If the rapists were given a taste of the hangman's noose I'm sure a lot of these immigrants would stop taking western spinelessness for granted. That said, sometimes there are people that are incapable of becoming a desireable addition to western society, and muslims definitely fit into that category. I'm not bothered if they hold those disgusting rapist attitudes - just as long as they're doing it in their own lands.

Um. there is some foam stuck in the corner of your mouth.

My money is on two things - relative poverty and a lack of integration, ie parallel communities in which the outlook on things like rape is drastically different.
Yes, that I can agree on. Then again, I don't believe that especially something like rape is treated mildly in those parallel communities. Quite on the contrary I'd say - as long as it's part of their family...

Violence always follows human beings, especially during times of uncertainty. And immigrants are in a new land, facing every sort of uncertainty one can imagine. It's only natural that a number of them turn to crime.
This I can understand and I can follow your train of thought.
BUT.That crime is often a result of oppressive natives (as in the case of the Irish, Italians, Chinese, and Russians in the US, and Muslims in Denmark, Germany, and France).
Opressive natives? I veto that notion. And how is rape a result? I fail to see a connection there.
The German society is hardly oppressive. It does, however, demand that one accepts and follows its morals, rules and laws and learns its language. That's the basic need for a harmonic and peaceful living together. Far more than those who didn't have indeed understood that.
Apparently, integration has failed in some cases and those parallel communities came into existance. But that doesn't mean that as a direct consequence, people start committing crimes, especially not rape.
It has something to do with upbringing and what is considered acceptable, right and just.
Rape definitely is not part of that!

Wonderful, I'm glad somebody finally said it. It's obviously the fault of evil old whitey that these tolerant, salt of the earth, peace loving muslim folk turn to thieving, rape, murder and terrorism. We should be accomodating to these fine people, it's obviously the fault of those shameless infidel sluts that they were raped.

It's these wishy washy attitudes that are the reason why this kind of crime is so endemic among muslim immigrants. Whenever they commit crimes, apologists always crawl out and go on about how it's obviously out fault that they commited these crimes. If the rapists were given a taste of the hangman's noose I'm sure a lot of these immigrants would stop taking western spinelessness for granted. That said, sometimes there are people that are incapable of becoming a desireable addition to western society, and muslims definitely fit into that category. I'm not bothered if they hold those disgusting rapist attitudes - just as long as they're doing it in their own lands.

Blah blah fucking blah blah. Sieg Heil!

You whinge about "apologists" and yet you ARE one. You don't believe in justice. You don't believe in personal responsibility. You believe if a man rapes a woman, and he's Islamic, it's BECAUSE he's Islamic. You're the one creating excuses for rapist scumbags. Go fuck yourself.

The German society is hardly oppressive. It does, however, demand that one accepts and follows its morals, rules and laws and learns its language. That's the basic need for a harmonic and peaceful living together. Far more than those who didn't have indeed understood that.
forcing people to accept social standards that are not their own is not at all oppressive... [/sarcasm] it is easier to say that immigrants should conform to their new society than it is to admit that the new society might have something to learn from another one.

forcing people to accept social standards that are not their own is not at all oppressive... [/sarcasm] it is easier to say that immigrants should conform to their new society than it is to admit that the new society might have something to learn from another one.
Too right, we could sure be taught a thing or two about how to create a better society. We could all sit round together and discuss the most efficient way to kill a daughter or sister who put shame on the family by being raped. Or how best to gang rape one of those shameless whores who dares walk the streets without a headscarf.

forcing people to accept social standards that are not their own is not at all oppressive... [/sarcasm] it is easier to say that immigrants should conform to their new society than it is to admit that the new society might have something to learn from another one.
Hey, if they want to live here, it's what they'll have to do. Those immigrants have agreed to those social standards when they came here. They are to uphold the law and follow our rules.
I'm more than happy to learn from others - when they are able to communicate with me and are ready to accept this society as it is.
That "new society" you're talking about only works when everyone agrees on certain standards. If you can't meet them you'll have to face the consequences.
When I go visit foreign countries I abide to the law, rules and conventions. I expect the same, especially if you're not visiting but living here.
Just because in some societies, women are not treated equally and enjoy the same rights as males do, does that mean we have to accept that people from a foreign background consider themselves above the law? Don't think so.
And you really don't want to get me started on how an oppressive German soviety would look like, uh... did look like - hell, you ought to know what I mean!

http://focus.msn.de/bildung/bildung/einbuergerungstest/einbuergerungstest_aid_20544.html

If anyone wants to be German, you have to pass this test (if some people get their will)...:p

My Scores
First Test: 24/25
Second Test: 25/29
Third Test: 27/31

I like the trick questions. :rolleyes:

EDIT: I wonder whether KP would pass.:D

Blah blah fucking blah blah. Sieg Heil!

You whinge about "apologists" and yet you ARE one. You don't believe in justice. You don't believe in personal responsibility. You believe if a man rapes a woman, and he's Islamic, it's BECAUSE he's Islamic. You're the one creating excuses for rapist scumbags. Go fuck yourself.
At least I'm offering a solution, which is more than I can say for your sort. It's so easy to always say that that we should simply condemn and never tolerate rape. That's all well and good but it won't make a difference to the lives that will be ruined. It's not going to change a thing. My methods would ensure that the perpetrators of these rapes would never even enter our societies and never be in a position to commit rape. Prevention is always better than cure.

At least I'm offering a solution, which is more than I can say for your sort. It's so easy to always say that that we should simply condemn and never tolerate rape. That's all well and good but it won't make a difference to the lives that will be ruined. It's not going to change a thing. My methods would ensure that the perpetrators of these rapes would never even enter our societies and never be in a position to commit rape. Prevention is always better than cure.

Because if there were no immigrants, there'd be no rape. :rolleyes:

Good idea, and all whites can return to Caucasia.
because not all whites originate from the caucasus mountains?

At least I'm offering a solution, which is more than I can say for your sort. It's so easy to always say that that we should simply condemn and never tolerate rape. That's all well and good but it won't make a difference to the lives that will be ruined. It's not going to change a thing. My methods would ensure that the perpetrators of these rapes would never even enter our societies and never be in a position to commit rape. Prevention is always better than cure.

Yeah. People like you are great at offering us your famous Final Solutions.

Because if there were no immigrants, there'd be no rape. :rolleyes:
I never said that. What I said is that if there were no muslim immigrants there would be less rape.

because not all whites originate from the caucasus mountains?

but all muslims come from the Middle East. :rolleyes:

I never said that. What I said is that if there were no muslim immigrants there would be less rape.

which isn't necessarily true.

but don't let that technicality stand in the way of your pogrom

Denmark has 2% muslim population. Yet they commit 68% of rapes...I think all muslims should return to their own countries....

http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html
The article does not support your claim.

I wouldnt want a large number of white americans moving to europe neither....
I wouldn't want any large number of Americans moving to Europe. Regardless of their color.

but all muslims come from the Middle East. :rolleyes:
yeah, and all muslims are arabs:p

I thought that the Koran strongly opposed rape? I know it's not the best on women's rights, from a western point of view anyway, but I was under the impression that it still outlawed rape, much less encourages it, nomatter what the woman wears. Sorry if this is inaccurate though, I have only read bits of the Koran, and do not follow that religion (well, no religion for that matter), it was just something I read somewhere.

Their own women are holy cows. Others, especially western women are fair game. But they won't stop at killing their own women if they want to live like the western whores.

First off: <3

Secondly: "Minorities" are more than just muslims, even in Denmark. The 68% minority rape thing -IS- alarming, but that just means education and punishment need to be jammed upward, not forced emigration.
Actually it means just that. It's the only way left to hammer some sense into them.

You know, honestly, I'm glad that N.S General is very open minded. Sure we still have some people who like to look at one side of things, but that's just a minority.

Anywho, saying "Muslims should leave Europe" is like saying American's should leave America and give it back to the Native Americans and other presently-minority groups that inhabited America before Europeans did.

Does that seem ridiculous and impossible? Yes, so does your Muslim-Europe Statement.
How do those two even compare remotly?

2) Not all muslims are immigrants.
No. Some are second or even third generation. And those are the worst.

Blah blah blah all Muslims are teh evil blah blah.

*yawn*

which isn't necessarily true.
I don't see how you can say that. A disproportionate amount of rapes are commited by muslim immgrants or their descendants. And those who aren't directly commiting the rapes would be more than happy to overlook instances of it and cover it up. To them it's just another tool to take over out countries and subjugate the existing population. What's happened so far is only a small taste of what would happen if these people reach a majority of the population. If you got rid of them and let no more in then there would be a lot less rapes occuring. Nobody could honestly deny that.

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If anyone wants to be German, you have to pass this test (if some people get their will)...:p

EDIT: I wonder whether KP would pass.:D
1st test: 24/25
2nd test: 28/29
3rd test: 26/31

Guess I may stay German after all :p

Well, KP - what about taking the test?

Blah blah blah all Muslims are teh evil blah blah.

*yawn*
Blah blah blah Noooo...it's just a SMALL minority...Blah blah blah
*yawn*

I don't see how you can say that. A disproportionate amount of rapes are commited by muslim immgrants or their descendants. And those who aren't directly commiting the rapes would be more than happy to overlook instances of it and cover it up. To them it's just another tool to take over and subjugate the existing population. If you got rid of them and let no more in then there would be a lot less rapes occuring. Nobody could honestly deny that.

Evidence?

In which country?

Blah blah blah Noooo...it''s just a SMALL minority...Blah blah blah
*yawn*

No one but your type cares if it becomes a larger group.

No one but your type cares if it becomes a larger group.
What is my type?

Blah blah blah Noooo...it's just a SMALL minority...Blah blah blah
*yawn*

Actually, none of my points have anything to do with how small or minority Muslims are. Whilest your points definitely do have a "Muslims are evil" bent. I scored, you did not, but between you and me who's keeping track eh? :)

What is my type?

xenophobe.

If you didn't know, it is good you asked.

What is my type?
The Muslims are teh evil, racialist type, which uses quotes taken out of context in their signatures.

No. Some are second or even third generation. And those are the worst.
wait. Are you being serious?

Actually, none of my points have anything to do with how small or minority Muslims are.
Actually neither does any of mine. I don't care how big or small the number of muslims are. I simply prefer them to all leave.

Whilest your points definitely do have a "Muslims are evil" bent.
I didn't say that either. I'm sure there is a small decent number of muslims about somewhere. They are just very good at hiding. Which isn't suprising. For they would probably reap havoc from the rest.

I scored, you did not, but between you and me who's keeping track eh? :)
If it makes you happy to believe you did. Be my guest.

wait. Are you being serious?
As a heart attack.

Evidence?
Unfortunately the political will to compile accurate data on the criminal tendencies of muslims isn't there. But would I need evidence if I said the sky was blue? The consequences are all around Europe. Just look at the muslim areas in places like France, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and also as further afield as Australia. God help you if you're a non-muslim living in one a muslim area in one of those places. There's a good chance a non-muslim woman walking the streets without a headscarf would be raped.

Take this (http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Muslim-cleric-women-incite-mens-lust-with-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html?oneclick=true) example. It's certainly a poor statement for any society that this man is still alive after saying that kind of thing. I'm sure many more muslims feel this way as well. There's no point in denying something when it's common knowledge and the consequences are everywhere.

As a heart attack.
oh, ok. sorry, I was under the impression no sane or non-retarded person could actually think that way. I guess I was wrong

I don't see how you can say that. A disproportionate amount of rapes are commited by muslim immgrants or their descendants. And those who aren't directly commiting the rapes would be more than happy to overlook instances of it and cover it up. To them it's just another tool to take over out countries and subjugate the existing population. What's happened so far is only a small taste of what would happen if these people reach a majority of the population. If you got rid of them and let no more in then there would be a lot less rapes occuring. Nobody could honestly deny that.

I can honestly deny that.

Since my parents are Muslim-Americans, and reading your statement just proves how idiotic and retarded you are. Your solution to the Muslim problem is the equivilent of Hitler's "Final Solution" to his so-called Jewish problem. Sure, I can pull out some article, throw around some words to counter your argument, but it won't phase your dull mind.. So the only thing I can say and hopefully you'll listen,is for you to log off here and turn off the computer. And never log back on here to bout off your hypocrisy.

The Muslims are teh evil, racialist type, which uses quotes taken out of context in their signatures.
Ah right. Racialist..:rolleyes: Why don't you dust off that old crooked Nazi-bat of yours.
What quotes would that be?

Unfortunately the political will to compile accurate data on the criminal tendencies of muslims isn't there. But would I need evidence if I said the sky was blue? The consequences are all around Europe. Just look at the muslim areas in places like France, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and also Australia. God help you if you're a non-muslim living in one of those places. There's a good chance a non-muslim woman walking the streets without a headscarf would be raped.

We aren't being a tad hysterical, now, are we?

Take this (http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Muslim-cleric-women-incite-mens-lust-with-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html?oneclick=true) example. It's certainly a poor statement for any society that this man is still alive after saying that kind of thing. I'm sure many more muslims feel this way as well. There's no point in denying something when it's common knowledge and the consequences are everywhere.

That is sad. But it would be a sadder statement if he were killed for his opinion.

oh, ok. sorry, I was under the impression no sane or non-retarded person could actually think that way. I guess I was wrong
I have the impression you are wrong about many things many times.
Blame your parents. They shouldn't have dropped you on your head so often as a baby.

Ah right. Racialist..:rolleyes: Why don't you dust off that old crooked Nazi-bat of yours.
What quotes would that be?

Gee, what would make you think of Nazis?

I have the impression you are wrong about many things many times.
Blame your parents. They shouldn't have dropped you on your head so often as a baby.
look, I dont want to argue with you ok? doing so would be like booing at the special olympics.

Gee, what would make you think of Nazis?
Yeah, gee. Where do I get that idea?

I have the impression you are wrong about many things many times.
Blame your parents. They shouldn't have dropped you on your head so often as a baby.


Now, now, play nice.

look, I dont want to argue with you ok? doing so would be like booing at the special olympics.
Then stop quoting me and get back to your colouring books.

Now, now, play nice.
I'm always nice.

Yeah, gee. Where do I get that idea?

Um. You just suggested it a few post ago.

We aren't being a tad hysterical, now, are we?
Nothing hysterical about it. I spent most of my childhood in a town with a large population of muslims (Though not a majority) and they completely ruined the town, pulling it even further down the toilet than it ever was before.

That is sad. But it would be a sadder statement if he were killed for his opinion.
Something has to be done to people like him. No society should just sit back and let him effectively encourage the rape of non-muslim women. Even if killing him was a bit far, perhaps a couple of sledgehammers to his knees would do the job.

We don't have this problem in America because we treat our immigrants with equality and we demand loyalty and responsibility of them. We don't treat them dependent babies or third class citizens.

Just saying.

I'm always nice.

Apparently not.

Apparently not.
Not when beeing attacked first no.

We don't have this problem in America because we treat our immigrants with equality and we demand loyalty and responsibility of them. We don't treat them dependent babies or third class citizens.

Just saying.

As long as they have money, you mean.

1) They arent mine. It was published in a newspaper. It's police's statistics.

2) What? I'm saying all muslims should leave europe...

You retarded nazi fuck.

We don't have this problem in America because we treat our immigrants with equality and we demand loyalty and responsibility of them. We don't treat them dependent babies or third class citizens.

Just saying.
Yes, America is certainly the land of equality where there is a level playing field and everybody is treated equally. Unless of course you're black, hispanic or poor.

Um. You just suggested it a few post ago.
A PC German in Australia starts throwing around phrases like racialist. A term often used on forums like Stormfront and KKK sites.

Nothing hysterical about it. I spent most of my childhood in a town with a large population of muslims (Though not a majority) and they completely ruined the town, pulling it even further down the toilet than it ever was before.

Something has to be done to people like him. No society should just sit back and let him effectively encourage the rape of non-muslim women. Even if killing him was a bit far, perhaps a couple of sledgehammers to his knees would do the job.

My, aren't we a staunch defender of Western ideals. Or not.

Then stop quoting me and get back to your colouring books.

Good one.

As long as they have money, you mean.
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but all I know is that there are just as many retarded non muslim kids (in a figurative way) as there are retarded muslim kids (in a figurative way).

All I"m saying is that over here, no one is better than anyone else, nor worse.

Actually neither does any of mine. I don't care how big or small the number of muslims are. I simply prefer them to all leave.

Right. Because you hate and fear them. Because you basically think they're all or mostly evil - unless of course you don't think rape is an evil act.

I didn't say that either. I'm sure there is a small decent number of muslims about somewhere. They are just very good at hiding. Which isn't suprising. For they would probably reap havoc from the rest.

I doubt you're looking very hard.


If it makes you happy to believe you did. Be my guest.

I prefer knowledge to belief.

A PC German in Australia starts throwing around phrases like racialist. A term often used on forums like Stormfront and KKK sites.

I wouldn't know what is often used on Stormfront and KKK sites.

You seem to be making some free associations that are pretty interesting.

Yes, America is certainly the land of equality where there is a level playing field and everybody is treated equally. Unless of course you're black, hispanic or poor.
I never said everyone is treated equally. There are some inequalities, but it's nothing like what's happening to the muslims in europe.

Don't put words into my mouth. :rolleyes:

I believe firmly that just because you are a Muslim does NOt make you evil.

Now, that is not a reason to commit rape. Punish the criminals how you would punish any other rapist.

(However, I prefer the death penalty for rape.)

Right. Because you hate and fear them. Because you basically think they're all or mostly evil - unless of course you don't think rape is an evil act.
Of course rape is an evil act.


I doubt you're looking very hard.
I doubt you are in any position to judge that.



I prefer knowledge to belief.
So do I.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but all I know is that there are just as many retarded white kids (in a figurative way) as there are retarded muslim kids (in a figurative way).

All I"m saying is that over here, no one is better than anyone else, nor worse.

"here" where?

I think I know what you mean -- guest workers, etc -- but don't overestimate US equality. We have a long way to go.

My, aren't we a staunch defender of Western ideals. Or not.
That depends if you see spinelessly pacifying immigrant communities at the expense of the wider population (In spite of the rapes, murders, terrorism, ect) as an ideal that we should strive for. And sometimes a bit of violence can have positive consequences in the long run.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but all I know is that there are just as many retarded white kids (in a figurative way) as there are retarded muslim kids (in a figurative way).

All I"m saying is that over here, no one is better than anyone else, nor worse.

You just don't get it do you? Perhaps your parents sheltered you from the real world. If the immigrants are poor, they will stay poor. If Americans are poor, their kids will be poor. And I'm not quite sure why you threw in the retarded white and muslim kids figurative bit in there. Make sense next time.

Unfortunately the political will to compile accurate data on the criminal tendencies of muslims isn't there. But would I need evidence if I said the sky was blue? The consequences are all around Europe. Just look at the muslim areas in places like France, The Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and also as further afield as Australia. God help you if you're a non-muslim living in one a muslim area in one of those places. There's a good chance a non-muslim woman walking the streets without a headscarf would be raped.

Take this (http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Muslim-cleric-women-incite-mens-lust-with-satanic-dress/2005/04/23/1114152362381.html?oneclick=true) example. It's certainly a poor statement for any society that this man is still alive after saying that kind of thing. I'm sure many more muslims feel this way as well. There's no point in denying something when it's common knowledge and the consequences are everywhere.

Umm...I know the truth is unimportant in the face of "obvious" evidence like personal experience and secondhand stories but I would like to point out that in cases like this it has very little to do with race/ethnic/religious group and more to do with social class. Immigrant Muslim's enjoy a lower economic status than most groups in the countries that they live in. Lower economic class is associated with higher rate of crime, suicide, depression and all kinds of badness. It's kind of like African-American crime statistics in America (at least a few years ago, I don't have anything recent) its not because they're black, it's because they're poor.

If you want to solve this "problem" (which may or may not be outdated since the article that started all this is from five years ago) then address the fundemantal economic divide between immigrant famlies and natives.

But hey, I just have a graduate degree in sociology, whatta I know?


:gundge:
Biorifeling Intolerance for Over Two Minutes

I wouldn't know what is often used on Stormfront and KKK sites.
You should visit them sometimes then.

You seem to be making some free associations that are pretty interesting.
I simply know the tools used trying to make Europeans, Germans in particular, to shut up when they voice an unpopular opinion. Unpopular with the establishment that is.

Good idea, and all whites can return to Caucasia.

I fully intend on returning to the motherland someday.

You just don't get it do you? Perhaps your parents sheltered you from the real world. If the immigrants are poor, they will stay poor. If Americans are poor, their kids will be poor. And I'm not quite sure why you threw in the retarded white and muslim kids figurative bit in there. Make sense next time.
One thing you should know about me: I'm an immigrant and I came to the US when I was 7. My parents were on welfare for several years so they could go to college, and I was anything but sheltered. Yes, I know what it's like to go hungry, to go cold, to not have the things that everyone else has and get picked for it. However, that's not the case anymore, since my parents have relatively high paying jobs.

I believe firmly that just because you are a Muslim does NOt make you evil.

Now, that is not a reason to commit rape. Punish the criminals how you would punish any other rapist.

No one except the Muslim-bashers has said it is an excuse for rape.

(However, I prefer the death penalty for rape.)

Actually, there are very good anti-rape reasons why that isn't a good idea. Discourages reporting and convictions. To deter crime, we want to increase the likelihood of conviction.

This reminds me of the "Green National Socialist Party" they advocate "all racial groups return to their homelands" and having white people "live in Europe and America exclusively"...ummm Native Americans anyone?

I guess bigots really don't know anything.

All you people who are calling each other Nazis are dumb Shi#ts because you have to look at the whole picture The muslim Religon is based on violence death and destruction. You must convert to muslim or die this is not a peacefull religion they must be dealt wth swiftly and quick because the minority fanatical muslims control the majority of the muslim countries. we are all nazis because we turn a blind eye to people who are being killed based on ethnicity and religion all over the world even worse than the nazis did to the 6 million jeews,gypsies, homosexuals, etc... we have to realize that they put up a front in order to decive us.:eek:

One thing you should know about me: I'm an immigrant and I came to the US when I was 7. My parents were on welfare for several years so they could go to college, and I was anything but sheltered. Yes, I know what it's like to go hungry, to go cold, to not have the things that everyone else has and get picked for it. However, that's not the case anymore, since my parents have relatively high paying jobs.

I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you.

No one except the Muslim-bashers has said it is an excuse for rape.



Actually, there are very good anti-rape reasons why that isn't a good idea. Discourages reporting and convictions. To deter crime, we want to increase the likelihood of conviction.

1st: Good.

2nd:Well, make it possible but not automatic. Life inprisonment minimum.

You should visit them sometimes then.

I simply know the tools used trying to make Europeans, Germans in particular, to shut up when they voice an unpopular opinion. Unpopular with the establishment that is.

And yet you are the one who brought these "tools" up. Nice job of self-matyrdom.

All you people who are calling each other Nazis are dumb Shi#ts because you have to look at the whole picture The muslim Religon is based on violence death and destruction. You must convert to muslim or die this is not a peacefull religion they must be dealt wth swiftly and quick because the minority fanatical muslims control the majority of the muslim countries. we are all nazis because we turn a blind eye to people who are being killed based on ethnicity and religion all over the world even worse than the nazis did to the 6 million jeews,gypsies, homosexuals, etc... we have to realize that they put up a front in order to decive us.:eek:

I'm afraid that you are a Nazi. And a very uninformed one at that.

Of course rape is an evil act.

Then we're in agreement. But I think you let rapists off easy by blaming Muslim or it's "culture" or anything else but the actions of a criminal.

There's a tendency to blame abstract, generalized concepts these days. Like: Video games cause violence, not violent people. Or maybe it's that bastardly TV. Anything but the person who does the violence!

I doubt you are in any position to judge that.

Well, we have at least one Muslim on this forum who posts frequently but that you apparently think is hiding. Either just coincidentally you don't know about him, or you forgot, or you're taking to the tendency to generalize.

That depends if you see spinelessly pacifying immigrant communities at the expense of the wider population (In spite of the rapes, murders, terrorism, ect) as an ideal that we should strive for. And sometimes a bit of violence can have positive consequences in the long run.

Yes. For example, if someone were to rape you up the ass, you'd probably come to agree it was for the better.

All you people who are calling each other Nazis are dumb Shi#ts because you have to look at the whole picture The muslim Religon is based on violence death and destruction. You must convert to muslim or die this is not a peacefull religion they must be dealt wth swiftly and quick because the minority fanatical muslims control the majority of the muslim countries. we are all nazis because we turn a blind eye to people who are being killed based on ethnicity and religion all over the world even worse than the nazis did to the 6 million jeews,gypsies, homosexuals, etc... we have to realize that they put up a front in order to decive us.:eek:
That smilie just completely discredited your entire statement, and the run-ons didn't help either. I know a lot of musims over here, and they seem alright to me. Maybe it depends where you go, or something...

I'm playing the world's smallest violin for you.
Thanks, I appreciate that;)

I was just pointing out that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to immigrants and whatnot.

And yet you are the one who brought these "tools" up. Nice job of self-matyrdom.
I can't help it that I am right about that.
It has nothing to do with martyrdom.

I'm afraid that you are a Nazi. And a very uninformed one at that.
ya just like you because you dont care what happens to people who are not in direct belief as you plus i said that certain muslims have to be dealt the right way as to help creat peace but you think that letting a jihad go on is being a globaly conseinsous person:cool:

All you people who are calling each other Nazis are dumb Shi#ts because you have to look at the whole picture The muslim Religon is based on violence death and destruction. You must convert to muslim or die this is not a peacefull religion they must be dealt wth swiftly and quick because the minority fanatical muslims control the majority of the muslim countries. we are all nazis because we turn a blind eye to people who are being killed based on ethnicity and religion all over the world even worse than the nazis did to the 6 million jeews,gypsies, homosexuals, etc... we have to realize that they put up a front in order to decive us.:eek:

Speak for yourself, Nazi. The Muslim religion is anything but 'violence,death and destruction.' A few radicals take it to the extreme and everyone labels it as sterotype. So before you go spouting off your unimportant opinions remember your American Salem Witch Trials and the Puritans before you condemn another religion or religious situtation.

Do me a favor, and turn off Fox News and quit listening to your parents political ideals.

Umm...I know the truth is unimportant in the face of "obvious" evidence like personal experience and secondhand stories but I would like to point out that in cases like this it has very little to do with race/ethnic/religious group and more to do with social class. Immigrant Muslim's enjoy a lower economic status than most groups in the countries that they live in. Lower economic class is associated with higher rate of crime, suicide, depression and all kinds of badness. It's kind of like African-American crime statistics in America (at least a few years ago, I don't have anything recent) its not because they're black, it's because they're poor.
I would be more prepared to understand social class as being a major contributory factor towards economic crime such as theft, burgalary, ect. But I don't see how rape could be caused by a low social class, even if there is a correlation. I would put it down more to things like religion and culture. Immigrants from other religious backgrounds (Hindus and Sikhs mainly) in Britain come from the same region and suffer from often equal discimination and economic disadvantages. But they dont have the same attitude as muslims when it comes to issues like rape. And they aren't intent on completely taking our countries over like the muslims are.

But hey, I just have a graduate degree in sociology, whatta I know?
Well whoop-de-doo Mr Genius, have a gold star. Get off your ivory tower, sometimes reality can be a little different from the theories you people make in your cloistered world of academia.

Thanks, I appreciate that;)

I was just pointing out that I know what I'm talking about when it comes to immigrants and whatnot.

Of course, you were seven years old so obviously you fully analyzed your situation. Then you experienced what a majority of Americans experience with living under the poverty level and welfare. Yeah...expert.

ya just like you because you dont care what happens to people who are not in direct belief as you plus i said that certain muslims have to be dealt the right way as to help creat peace but you think that letting a jihad go on is being a globaly conseinsous person:cool:

For your information, every Muslim I have met is a peaceful, kind, and intelligent person. Every last one. And I've met like 30 Muslims... in the past week. Now, some religious nut who says, "KILL THE INFIDELS!!11!!" needs to be dealt with, but the majority are very nice, peaceful, and intelligent people. Every belief can be warped into something stupid/genocidal/crazy.

That depends if you see spinelessly pacifying immigrant communities at the expense of the wider population (In spite of the rapes, murders, terrorism, ect) as an ideal that we should strive for. And sometimes a bit of violence can have positive consequences in the long run.

Again with the hysterics.

Regardless, I though free speech, freedom of religion, etc., were Western ideals.

What culture are you preserving?

im aan immigrant in the US and i have made it up from the bottom of the ladder to a decent life. i left the ussr with only $50 and now have a housse and 2 cars and time to spend with my family

im aan immigrant in the US and i have made it up from the bottom of the ladder to a decent life. i left the ussr with only $50 and now have a housse and 2 cars and time to spend with my family

You left the USSR before? You're the first person from Russia I've met! (at least that came from the USSR.)

im aan immigrant in the US and i have made it up from the bottom of the ladder to a decent life. i left the ussr with only $50 and now have a housse and 2 cars and time to spend with my family

Assuming that is true, that justifies your xenophobia?

im from ukraine came in 1989 as a refugee because of my religon

*edit to clip* Every belief can be warped into something stupid/genocidal/crazy.

Yeah, so lets go assassinate Chavez

(please recognize this is not an actual suggestion)

Yeah, so lets go assassinate Chavez

(please recognize this is not an actual suggestion)

Joke Recognized.

1. I'd like some confirmation of your statistics.

2. Are you suggesting each country has a particular religion? I think not.
The article does not support Nordland's claim:

Alarmed at last week's police statistics, which revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority, leading Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls.

Someone forgot to pay attention to the punctuation?

Actually the way it reads, it doesn't say that Muslims committed ANY rapes.

I agree, in that Nordland should post statistics that actually support his claim.

Then we're in agreement. But I think you let rapists off easy by blaming Muslim or it's "culture" or anything else but the actions of a criminal.


There's a tendency to blame abstract, generalized concepts these days. Like: Video games cause violence, not violent people. Or maybe it's that bastardly TV. Anything but the person who does the violence!

It's the Islamic culture which makes them into it.


Well, we have at least one Muslim on this forum who posts frequently but that you apparently think is hiding. Either just coincidentally you don't know about him, or you forgot, or you're taking to the tendency to generalize.
Now your just beeing childish. One muslim on an internet forum is proof that I'm totaly wrong? Please.

Of course, you were seven years old so obviously you fully analyzed your situation. Then you experienced what a majority of Americans experience with living under the poverty level and welfare. Yeah...expert.
Actually, I was in this situation from about 7 to 12, although it was better by the time I was 12. I'm not saying I'm an expert on anything, what I am saying is that I know what it's like. I wasn't sheltered.

im from ukraine came in 1989 as a refugee because of my religon

Ah. Well, the USSR was not exactly a good place. Good thing you left.

i have met muslims that are not citizens of the US and they have a totally diffrent view of us . The Muslims here are also under the threat of Jihad for "abandoning thier religon" by living in the US think about that

It's the Islamic culture which makes them into it.


And your evidence for this is ......?

And your evidence for this is ......?

None, of course. The Islamic culture does nort say, "rape women."

Speak for yourself, Nazi. The Muslim religion is anything but 'violence,death and destruction.' A few radicals take it to the extreme and everyone labels it as sterotype.
I don't remember any mass demonstrations by muslims condeming these few radicals. I do remember mass celebrations after the 911 attacks and mass protests and violence over a couple of cartoons.

i have met muslims that are not citizens of the US and they have a totally diffrent view of us . The Muslims here are also under the threat of Jihad for "abandoning thier religon" by living in the US think about that
I've met plenty of muslims here too, and they seem normal to me. But then again, I don't really talk politics with them...

Ah. Well, the USSR was not exactly a good place. Good thing you left.
do you still live in former USSR??

i have met muslims that are not citizens of the US and they have a totally diffrent view of us . The Muslims here are also under the threat of Jihad for "abandoning thier religon" by living in the US think about that

Proof of this?

(Oh, and to me, the US isn't "here". I'm in Canada.)

do you still live in former USSR??

No, I live in Canada. I;ve never been in Russia, let alone the USSR.

And your evidence for this is ......?
Their attitude. And their justifications for that. Them sharing it with me. I went to school with several prime examples.
Three brothers in Berlin killing their sister because she was living like a German. A friend of my cousin who was exstatic about Van Gogh getting murdered. Van Goghs murderer.

None, of course. The Islamic culture does nort say, "rape women."
the koran says that it is ok to rape women of non muslim beleif also it says eat with a jew because he dos not eat pork and sleep in a christan home for he will not kill you later the koran syays that the jew is a filthy son of a pig and that all christans must die.. this is from a former Muslim Iama its kind of a priest ( I hope thats spelled right)

the koran says that it is ok to rape women of non muslim beleif also it says eat with a jew because he dos not eat pork and sleep in a christan home for he will not kill you later the koran syays that the jew is a filthy son of a pig and that all christans must die.. this is from a former Muslim Iama its kind of a priest ( I hope thats spelled right)

What? Link?