NationStates Jolt Archive

Rap, Industrial, Black Metal, Emo, Metalcore, Indie...

I'm sure every music genre has it's redeeming qualities.

Country, for example, has it's crap. However, it also has artists that I can enjoy listening to such as Johnny Cash, Merle Haggard and Hank Williams.

As for rap/hip-hop... I'll reserve my judgment. What I've heard, I mainly dislike, but I recognise that that is a very minor portion of the genre. I can't judge a genre based on the mainstream.

Aside from rap and country, has anyone mentioned the ultimate suckage that is Christian Rock?

Worst 3 Genres-
Rap - If you listen some of the lyrics are pretty interesting, but all that rap is is lyrics and a repetitive sound like drums or a similar instrument.
Christian Rock - Oh dear god this one was a toughy to place at second simply because while rap actually has lyrics going for it, Christian rock has "You make me move, Jesus"....
Country - It's been mentioned enough in this thread....

And the runner up for third worst being Indie Rock. It pisses me off so much >.<

I grew up with glam/glitter rock, punk rock, early elctronica, electro-pop and what they used to call "New Wave". Most of the music that I enjoy was made in the 70's and into the mid 80's. Aside from that I enjoy Classic 50's rock (Buddy Holley, Bo Didley etc...) and garage band rock.

As for rap, hiphop, so called 'danse music' and the like, I could never get into it. In truth, it may as well come from another planet because I just can't "connect" with it and I find it sounds horrible.

Kind of like musical 'sand paper' really....

I say rap. If thats even music. Because I think its not music.
Whats your least favourite?
Most Rap and trash metal,

definitly death metal or rap country doesent bother me to me its just emo with a southern accent pop bands suck ass too

id have to say that mainstream stuff is kinda sad, they dont play for themselfs anymore, only the fans. So they get tossed around like a bag of S***. Never knowing when they will have to change their style a bit. Overall, I hate anything that needs 20-40 girls in one music video shaking their asses to make money. (Yes I am talking about Rap, RnB, Hiphop)

House/rave/trance/whatever the hell you wanna call it.
Just don't call it music.
Time for a rewrite, I think. It is music, although I really, really don't like it. What I dislike more than the repetitiveness and mindlessness of the music, is the culture associated with it. It's just the way you've got to be hyper or on drugs to listen to it, and the rampant commercialism. This is music that doen't think. I get this with some rap and Hip-hop as well. Anyone else dislike a genre more because of the image behind it than the music itself?

Time for a rewrite, I think. It is music, although I really, really don't like it. What I dislike more than the repetitiveness and mindlessness of the music, is the culture associated with it. It's just the way you've got to be hyper or on drugs to listen to it, and the rampant commercialism. This is music that doen't think. I get this with some rap and Hip-hop as well. Anyone else dislike a genre more because of the image behind it than the music itself?
Try IDM or possibly EBM. IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) is far superior to commercial dance, in that the people who make it use interesting loops and samples rather than taking the same 4/4 beat and repeating it in song after song. It's also very good to listen to when stoned. EBM (Electronic Body Music) is kind of a cross between industrial and IDM. I'd reccommend it if you already like industrial or metal.

Anything written with the direct intention to be a pop hit.

See:
Modern Country
Rap
Disco
Most R&B
Anything sung by anyone who was, or is related to,or who has ever worked with a former Mouseketeer.

Try IDM or possibly EBM. IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) is far superior to commercial dance, in that the people who make it use interesting loops and samples rather than taking the same 4/4 beat and repeating it in song after song. It's also very good to listen to when stoned. EBM (Electronic Body Music) is kind of a cross between industrial and IDM. I'd reccommend it if you already like industrial or metal.
Hmm, I will thanks. Any bands you can point me to in particular?

Time for a rewrite, I think. It is music, although I really, really don't like it. What I dislike more than the repetitiveness and mindlessness of the music, is the culture associated with it. It's just the way you've got to be hyper or on drugs to listen to it, and the rampant commercialism. This is music that doen't think. I get this with some rap and Hip-hop as well. Anyone else dislike a genre more because of the image behind it than the music itself?

How do you feel about Drum and Bass?

You should definitely check out Prodigy and Pendulum.

Either rap, or really cheesy pop music, like westlife etc, it really sucks

How do you feel about Drum and Bass?

You should definitely check out Prodigy and Pendulum.
Drum and Bass? Meh, some of it's interesting, more for the rhythm than the actual tune (I like percussion). The Prodigy I like, there is an originality to their work that I like - their later stuff for preference. Never heard of Pendulum.

Hmm, I will thanks. Any bands you can point me to in particular?
I'm not too familiar with IDM (try looking it up on wiki, there'll be a band list there somewhere). The term EBM was coined by Front 242 when describing their music, so they'd probably be a good starting point. Try the albums Front by Front and Tyranny For You. Also, VNV Nation and Wumpscut. VNV Nation are fucking awesome actually - start with Advance & Follow (the re-issue (v2) is better than the original), then get Praise The Fallen. I only have one Wumpscut album, Wreath of Barbs, which is pretty good.

Drum and Bass? Meh, some of it's interesting, more for the rhythm than the actual tune (I like percussion). The Prodigy I like, there is an originality to their work that I like - their later stuff for preference. Never heard of Pendulum.
Pendulum are pretty cool. Again I only have one album (Hold Your Colour, released last year) but it's damn good. I never considered myself to be a DnB fan before I heard it.

Pendulum are pretty cool. Again I only have one album (Hold Your Colour, released last year) but it's damn good. I never considered myself to be a DnB fan before I heard it.

That's because it's their only album. They're one hell of an act, they've done some great remixes of Prodigy's stuff.

That's because it's their only album. They're one hell of an act, they've done some great remixes of Prodigy's stuff.
Is it? I assumed they'd done more because I'd heard The Vault and it wasn't on Hold Your Colour.

I say rap. If thats even music. Because I think its not music.
Whats your least favourite?

Virtually all metal after Motorhead released "The Ace of Spades".

Virtually all metal after Motorhead released "The Ace of Spades".

definatly not :p its debatable if ace of spades is even a metal track

there is lots of crap metal out there but loads of good metal too

definatly not :p its debatable if ace of spades is even a metal track

there is lots of crap metal out there but loads of good metal too

Nah, there hasn't been an original thought in the genre since Faith No More's "The Real Thing" in - what was it - 87? Just leaves me cold, smacks of misoginy, bland, conservative noise.

Nah, there hasn't been an original thought in the genre since Faith No More's "The Real Thing" in - what was it - 87? Just leaves me cold, smacks of misoginy, bland, conservative noise.
You must have missed the entire prog metal genre then. Tool and Dream Theater are two of the best bands in the world right now.

Nah, there hasn't been an original thought in the genre since Faith No More's "The Real Thing" in - what was it - 87? Just leaves me cold, smacks of misoginy, bland, conservative noise.

thats quite untrue but i'll leave you to your opinion :D

You must have missed the entire prog metal genre then. Tool and Dream Theater are two of the best bands in the world right now.

Heard Tool. Bored me. End.

Heard Tool. Bored me. End.
There truly is no hope for you then.

Pop.

Pop.
...goes the weasel.

:) worst music hmmmmmmm

i guess that all music has its bad points ;)

if i had 2 pick 1 it would have to be 80s Rock ;)

But doesn't every1 tlk bout their fav music an wot they h8 so what would it matta...some ppl actually like 80s Rock:confused:

hip-hop or anything with g's yellin like monkeys in it

Rap. Ugh.

:) worst music hmmmmmmm

i guess that all music has its bad points ;)

if i had 2 pick 1 it would have to be 80s Rock ;)

But doesn't every1 tlk bout their fav music an wot they h8 so what would it matta...some ppl actually like 80s Rock:confused:

Go look up these bands: REM, Sonic Youth, Dead Kennedys.

Different sorts of rock, but still.

You must have missed the entire prog metal genre then. Tool and Dream Theater are two of the best bands in the world right now.

tool are pretty dull and boring in my opinion, dream theater are excellent though :D

Go look up these bands: REM, Sonic Youth, Dead Kennedys.

Different sorts of rock, but still.
Dead Kennedys are hardcore-punk. [/pedant]

Nah, there hasn't been an original thought in the genre since Faith No More's "The Real Thing" in - what was it - 87? Just leaves me cold, smacks of misoginy, bland, conservative noise.

It Pains me that you honestly think there's bin no good metal since Motorhead! some bands you need to try are System of a Down, Avenged Sevenfold, Beyond Fear, Korn, Nine Inch Nails and especially Coheed and Cambria. There are dozens of others but these are bands that arehaving a big part in saving/reinventing metal

It Pains me that you honestly think there's bin no good metal since Motorhead! some bands you need to try are System of a Down, Avenged Sevenfold, Beyond Fear, Korn, Nine Inch Nails and especially Coheed and Cambria. There are dozens of others but these are bands that arehaving a big part in saving/reinventing metal

coheed and cambria aren't metal and most people would says both Korn and Nine inch Nails aren't metal, the former actually helping to kill off mainstream metal in the 90's along with limp bizkit and other nu metal garbage

The worst music is definitely dance. Although, I'm ashamed to even describe it as music. I call it a computer vomiting. :D

coheed and cambria aren't metal and most people would says both Korn and Nine inch Nails aren't metal, the former actually helping to kill off mainstream metal in the 90's along with limp bizkit and other nu metal garbage

True C+C aren't strictly speaking 'metal' but thats where u find them in the shop. They are one of the very best bands around at the moment however you class them. Nine Inch Nails could also not be classed as metal but Korn? how are they not a metal band? and as for them killing off metal???? BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!! those two bands along with Rage and Nirvana were the saviours of the early nineties! they provided an alternative to the likes of Limp Biskit and both brought an entirely new sound to the scene!

True C+C aren't strictly speaking 'metal' but thats where u find them in the shop. They are one of the very best bands around at the moment however you class them. Nine Inch Nails could also not be classed as metal but Korn? how are they not a metal band? and as for them killing off metal???? BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!! those two bands along with Rage and Nirvana were the saviours of the early nineties! they provided an alternative to the likes of Limp Biskit and both brought an entirely new sound to the scene!

Nirvana weren't metal.

:) worst music hmmmmmmm



if i had 2 pick 1 it would have to be 80s Rock ;)

:
so you dont like Guns n Roses?
ya gotta like them

It Pains me that you honestly think there's bin no good metal since Motorhead! some bands you need to try are System of a Down, Avenged Sevenfold, Beyond Fear, Korn, Nine Inch Nails and especially Coheed and Cambria. There are dozens of others but these are bands that arehaving a big part in saving/reinventing metal

Coheed and Cambria are passable, but i wouldn't call them metal. Nine Inch Nails are industrial, haven't produced a song that made me go "wow" since "something i can't ever have", i wouldn't call them metal. System of a down, nah. Korn, double nah. The rest, never heard, no intention to.

Nirvana weren't metal.

Again true, but gain they provided an alternative to the Nu-Metal tripe of Limp Biskit and Papa Roach

Dead Kennedys are hardcore-punk. [/pedant]

Yeah duh...and punk isn't rock why?

i dont no how they consider nrivana and pearl jam and all them to be alternative
grunge is hard rock not punk

Coheed and Cambria are passable, but i wouldn't call them metal. Nine Inch Nails are industrial, haven't produced a song that made me go "wow" since "something i can't ever have", i wouldn't call them metal. System of a down, nah. Korn, double nah. The rest, never heard, no intention to.

Then there really is no hope for you to be a metalhead

Again true, but gain they provided an alternative to the Nu-Metal tripe of Limp Biskit and Papa Roach

I don't know what planet you are on - Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach were very late 90s/early noughties. Nirvana were dead and gone by '94. Also, without Nirvana, it's doubtful that the mainstream gates would have opened for a large number of shite groups such as the above-mentioned. Not a huge fan of Nirvana, thought they went downhill after "Bleach" myself, but hey...

the real metal is mettalica and iron maiden

I don't know what planet you are on - Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach were very late 90s/early noughties. Nirvana were dead and gone by '94. Also, without Nirvana, it's doubtful that the mainstream gates would have opened for a large number of shite groups such as the above-mentioned. Not a huge fan of Nirvana, thought they went downhill after "Bleach" myself, but hey...

well that just proves how little time I have for 90's nu-metal

the real metal is mettalica and iron maiden

never really been a big maiden fan. Metallica are pretty kl. and Motorhead of course. Lemmy is GOD

I hate these kinds of music:

Heavy Metal :sniper:

Plain Metal :sniper:

Bad Rap :sniper:
and finally,
What they call "Good, modern music" :sniper:

Again true, but gain they provided an alternative to the Nu-Metal tripe of Limp Biskit and Papa Roach

Huh? Nirvana were around before them.

i dont no how they consider nrivana and pearl jam and all them to be alternative
grunge is hard rock not punk

Some is close to metal (Alice in Chains, Soundgarden), and some is closer to punk. (Nirvana, Mudhoney.)

the real metal is mettalica and iron maiden

No, that would be Black Sabbath. :D

The worst rock music is industrial.
NIN, Marilyn Manson. Shitty bands.

I hate these kinds of music:

Heavy Metal :sniper:

Plain Metal :sniper:

Bad Rap :sniper:
and finally,
What they call "Good, modern music" :sniper:
so do you like Zeppelin and stuff?

No, that would be Black Sabbath. :D
actually them and zeppelin started metal

Yeah duh...and punk isn't rock why?
It is. I thought you specifically meant bands that were what is generally called rock. DKs aren't really one of those bands. That was my point.

[QUOTE=Kanabia]Huh? Nirvana were around before them.[QUOTE]

But the music was still around at their time and so gave an alternative

The worst rock music is industrial.
NIN, Marilyn Manson. Shitty bands.
Marilyn Manson's industrial? I'd say either goth-metal or alt-metal. Not enough synths to be properly industrial.

actually them and zeppelin started metal

Zepplin is NOT metal its an evolution of soul, blues and true R&B of the 50s-60s

But the music was still around at their time and so gave an alternative
But so was everything from the Beatles to the Smiths to Led Zep to David Bowie. Nirvana weren't the only alternative.

Marilyn Manson's industrial? I'd say either goth-metal or alt-metal. Not enough synths to be properly industrial.

agreed. and while NIN is definately industrial metal, most true goths when asked what is the achetypal goth bandf they will say either Cradle of Filth or NIN. PLus NIN gets extra brownie pooints for bein jus Trent Reznor almost entirely on his lonesome

But so was everything from the Beatles to the Smiths to Led Zep to David Bowie. Nirvana weren't the only alternative.

You can put them all in the same group! the likes of Nirvana gave people who wanted new metal and heavy rock an alternative to the garbage than was being produced under the banner of Nu-Metal

It is. I thought you specifically meant bands that were what is generally called rock. DKs aren't really one of those bands. That was my point.

Meh. He said all "80s rock". I just threw in everything that I thought might have fit.


But the music was still around at their time and so gave an alternative

Considering Nirvana (and Korn, etc.) were around before them, I'd say Limp Bizkit was an alternative to them rather than the other way around. More people listened to Nirvana than Limp Bizkit.

actually them and zeppelin started metal

Kindof...there were a lot of other influences too (hendrix, blue cheer, etc.), but Black Sabbath was the main band that started it all. Zeppelin was an influence on later metal bands, but I personally believe they weren't really "metal" themselves (though there's no right or wrong as to what metal is)...they were basically just a blues-rock band in my opinion.

agreed. and while NIN is definately industrial metal, most true goths when asked what is the achetypal goth bandf they will say either Cradle of Filth or NIN. PLus NIN gets extra brownie pooints for bein jus Trent Reznor almost entirely on his lonesome
Ooooh...I know the girl who plays keys in Cradle of Filth. Well, through a friend, so not very well.

Trent Reznor should get depressed again. He can't write good music while he's ok.

Ooooh...I know the girl who plays keys in Cradle of Filth. Well, through a friend, so not very well.

Trent Reznor should get depressed again. He can't write good music while he's ok.

kl. The Downward Spiral really was Genious. With Teeth is preety good though. He look shocking for a long time though. at least he's around to make music!

Oh and by the way, does anyone happen to know who's supporting HIM on their tour? Is it still Anethema?

so do you like Zeppelin and stuff?

Here is a list of musicans I love to listen to, along with the genre of their music:

Frank Zappa, Rock

Steve Miller, Rock

Angelique Kidjo, World

Weird Al Yankovich, Accordion

Babatundea Lea, World

:p Cher, JUST KIDDING!! :mp5:

Jimi Hendrix, Rock

Vladimir Horowitz, Classical

Martin O' Donnell, Halo 2 Music
And finally,
Joe Walsh, Blues.

Here is a list of musicans I love to listen to, along with the genre of their music:

Frank Zappa, Rock

Steve Miller, Rock

Angelique Kidjo, World

Weird Al Yankovich, Accordion

Babatundea Lea, World

:p Cher, JUST KIDDING!! :mp5:

Jimi Hendrix, Rock

Vladimir Horowitz, Classical

Martin O' Donnell, Halo 2 Music
And finally,
Joe Walsh, Blues.

Ah you gota love Weird Al. Ebay and Elmo's got a gun are my faves

Here is a list of musicans I love to listen to, along with the genre of their music:
Weird Al Yankovich, Accordion

Since when has 'Accordion' been a music genre?

Since when has 'Accordion' been a music genre?

hehe. I was thinkin that. dont matter though. Still funny whatever genre you put him in

hehe. I was thinkin that. dont matter though. Still funny whatever genre you put him in
When he isn't doing satiric copies of songs, he plays polka - accordian.

the real metal is mettalica and iron maiden

No. Real metal is Sonata Arctica, Queensryche, Dream Theater, Stratovarius, Elvenking, Children of Bodom, and others.

Not that mainstream crap.

No. Real metal is Sonata Arctica, Queensryche, Dream Theater, Stratovarius, Elvenking, Children of Bodom, and others.

Not that mainstream crap.
You've got some pretty different genres in there though. Dream theater and Children of Bodom are very different. Not heard any of the others but I strongly agree, Rock and particularly metal shouldnt be mainstream

You've got some pretty different genres in there though. Dream theater and Children of Bodom are very different. Not heard any of the others but I strongly agree, Rock and particularly metal shouldnt be mainstream

Dream Theater and (early) Queensryche are progressive metal
Children of Bodom are Melodic Death Metal
Elvenking is Folkmetal/Power Metal
And the others are Power Metal

All metal though. I just happen to despise the mainstream stuff.

Death metal is horrible. Senseless screaming and assaults on guitars and drums that block out the lyrics so much that you need to look at them to understand what they are even saying. x-x

Death metal is horrible. Senseless screaming and assaults on guitars and drums that block out the lyrics so much that you need to look at them to understand what they are even saying. x-x
Assaults on guitars and drums? That's a bit unfair. Some of the best drummers in the world are metal drummers. It requires a hell of a lot of skill to drum some of the beats in metal.

And I find that lyrics don't matter so much with metal (not always, but as a generalisation). It's more the sound of the voice rather than what is actually being sung that is what matters.

Death metal is horrible. Senseless screaming and assaults on guitars and drums that block out the lyrics so much that you need to look at them to understand what they are even saying. x-x

You are the most rightest person in the Universe, Asbena! Whoever invented metal music and it's clones(heavy metal, death metal.) was obviously a drug-guzzling, suicide-advocatng, Satan worshipping beer-guzzlin' sexy idiot maniac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :upyours: :rolleyes: :gundge: :sniper: :mp5: :headbang: :( :mad: :p

You are the most rightest person in the Universe, Asbena! Whoever invented metal music and it's clones(heavy metal, death metal.) was obviously a drug-guzzling, suicide-advocatng, Satan worshipping beer-guzzlin' sexy idiot maniac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :upyours: :rolleyes: :gundge: :sniper: :mp5: :headbang: :( :mad: :p
I can't actually tell if this is sarcasm or not...

Here are some more musicians I dearly listen to:

The Beatles, Rock

The following are all african music:

Ali Farka Toure

Wasis Diop

Sunny Ade
And finally:
Dub Nation.
I have listened to ALL of those, a there's more coming soon!:)

I can't actually tell if this is sarcasm or not...

This is not sarcasm. Metal, and ALL of it's clones, along with bad rap, and bad pop, are the worst music genres ever. Period. But not end of disssion!:rolleyes:

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZVGHIlEWg&feature=PlayList&p=CA5C75A2B543463D&index=30) is honestly terrible, but I listen to it loudly while cruising. Should I stop?!

rap sucks as does emo rock

This is not sarcasm. Metal, and ALL of it's clones, along with bad rap, and bad pop, are the worst music genres ever. Period. But not end of disssion!:rolleyes:

....

What's a disssion?

Good grief. The only thing worse than some of the bands being mentioned now that this thread has degenerated is the chronically lame attempt to classify them. Who cares? Like what you like and get on with life.

Good grief. The only thing worse than some of the bands being mentioned now that this thread has degenerated is the chronically lame attempt to classify them. Who cares? Like what you like and get on with life.
Though in the end without that sort of discussion what worth is this thread? (even for entertainment value) ?

Though in the end without that sort of discussion what worth is this thread? (even for entertainment value) ?
I suppose you're right.

But man, "neo-death-christian-emo-reggae-metal" can't be far behind, can it?

agreed. and while NIN is definately industrial metal, most true goths when asked what is the achetypal goth bandf they will say either Cradle of Filth or NIN. PLus NIN gets extra brownie pooints for bein jus Trent Reznor almost entirely on his lonesome

Neither NIN nor Cradle of Filth is goth.

Try Sisters of Mercy and Switchblade Symphony. ;)

Country suzorz.

I think I'll get my flaggelation kit ready for that response. *smacks heads with brick*.

Ah... that's better...
Yes, i too would do that to myself if someone said such a thing to me.

I suppose you're right.

But man, "neo-death-christian-emo-reggae-metal" can't be far behind, can it?
Oh, I hate that shit! :p

I don't like country.
Which is why it sucks that my brother does. :rolleyes:
Just as well I don't live at home any more :p

to say that any one kind of music is intrinsically bad is not fair. and I know I've been saying certain genres are shit but that's just in my opinion. but the fact cant be avoided that different types of music require much more skill than others. I play bass and rap etc is piss easy from that point of view because it is jus the same simple riff over and over. same with most of the instruments that are used but for death metal for example, an enormous amout of technical skill is needed, by all involved, including the singer

to say that any one kind of music is intrinsically bad is not fair. and I know I've been saying certain genres are shit but that's just in my opinion. but the fact cant be avoided that different types of music require much more skill than others. I play bass and rap etc is piss easy from that point of view because it is jus the same simple riff over and over. same with most of the instruments that are used but for death metal for example, an enormous amout of technical skill is needed, by all involved, including the singer
True, but rap focuses more on the skill of the rapper than the beat. Metal is driven by the guitar and drums, so clearly more skill is going to be needed. So classifying by the level of skill required to play the music just doesn't work.

polka

(although "In heaven there is no beer..." is cool while you and some pals are downing a boot)

Rap is crap...takes absolutely no talent besides being able to talk fast...Every other genre atleast has to play instruments and sing, not speed-talk, sing. Rap is the worst by far.

Rap is crap...takes absolutely no talent besides being able to talk fast...Every other genre atleast has to play instruments and sing, not speed-talk, sing. Rap is the worst by far.

So anything purely vocal is crap, then?

Rap is crap...takes absolutely no talent besides being able to talk fast...Every other genre atleast has to play instruments and sing, not speed-talk, sing. Rap is the worst by far.

Well at least you have listened and not made your judgement based on a few songs.

Oh well.

Country sucks sh*t.

It's basically a bunch of hillbillys singing in an annoying voice "My dog got hit by a pickup truck and I only have an eighth-grade education" :upyours:

Rap is crap...takes absolutely no talent besides being able to talk fast...Every other genre atleast has to play instruments and sing, not speed-talk, sing. Rap is the worst by far.
Trolls taste like candy - earwax candy.

Ah, earwax candy. Those were the days...

Trolls taste like candy - earwax candy.

This whole thread tastes like bad candles.