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Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?

*cough*....


P.S. I suppose the only punishment I induce on myself is what I get for asociating with La Dame.

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?

I haven't eaten poo, but I know it's stupid. So is cutting yourself. Snap out of it, and grow up, kid.

OK. It may very well be relaxing... but it inflicts injury, and if you really need to cut yourself open to get away from problems... You need help, no offense intended.

I have a pretty high tolerance....but that was far too emo even for me....

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I leave now. Good day.

I haven't eaten poo, but I know it's stupid. So is cutting yourself. Snap out of it, and grow up, kid.
Fass. I ask you. Have you cut yourself? If you have, then you know the joy it brings. If not, then really now. Should you say anything at all?

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?
Self-mutilation, while perhaps calming to you, is very dangerous. The knife you use could be unclean, you could hit something vital, or accidently hurt yourself worse than you meant to.

I have a pretty high tolerance....but that was far too emo even for me....

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I leave now. Good day.
Ha ha ha... Pitiful. Emos only cut themselves for attention, or because their girlfriends/boyfriends broke up with them. Real cutters cut themselves because of the joy it brings.

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There are safer ways of feeling pain than cutting. I've had two girlfriends that have done it (maybe that says something about me) and each one had deep psychological issues and the practice stopped when they got help. On the other hand, if you're just "into pain", try something a little less dangerous.

Nope, never have and never will. That's not healthy, especially if you've been using Fass's knife. :D

I kid, I kid. But seriously, no I haven't and no I won't. It was actually pretty disturbing reading your post. You should find something else to do that makes you happy.

OK. It may very well be relaxing... but it inflicts injury, and if you really need to cut yourself open to get away from problems... You need help, no offense intended.
Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.

Ha ha ha... Pitiful. Emos only cut themselves for attention, or because their girlfriends/boyfriends broke up with them. Real cutters cut themselves because of the joy it brings.

It wasn't so much the act of cutting yourself that did it, dude. That's been around before emo brought it to the mainstream.

It was the whole "so very peaceful" thing. So wonderfully clichéd.

Oh, and by the way, get help.

never done it myself but I have a few friends that do it I think its more of an outlook thing

suggest you read this after I read it I gave it too a self harmer and it seemed to work: http://www.saigon.com/~anson/ebud/mfneng/mind1-4.htm

I say do whatever you want. If you want to cut yourself, cut yourself. Perhaps we should discourage such actions, but I think if you feel like cutting yourself is something you want to do you should not be stopped from doing it by force of anything beyond peer/parental pressure.
I sometimes use self-abuse, not quite to that extreme, but still harming myself purposely. I know what you mean when you say sometimes self-abuse is sometimes more of a relief from pain than an infliction of pain.

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.
Why not hit yourself or something instead? It's much safer.

Self-mutilation, while perhaps calming to you, is very dangerous. The knife you use could be unclean, you could hit something vital, or accidently hurt yourself worse than you meant to.
I'm very careful. I always clean my knives. And I never press harder than I mean to. And I know where to cut.

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.You're 13 and you have scars that bad? Either you're being emo or you really do need help. Well, you'd probably need it in both cases anyway... I think you just need to cheer up. Get your mind off of your problems and eventually you'll find they weren't quite so big as you thought.

never done it myself but I have a few friends that do it I think its more of an outlook thing

suggest you read this after I read it I gave it too a self harmer and it seemed to work: http://www.saigon.com/~anson/ebud/mfneng/mind1-4.htm
I've tried meditation. It doesn't work.

I'm very careful. I always clean my knives. And I never press harder than I mean to. And I know where to cut.
Try meditating. It's relaxing and not risky.

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.

Get counselling. NOW. I'm serious.

The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.

One assumes you have consulted other people about this ? Few things annoy me more as someone saying "I do not see a(nother) solution to this problem, therefor there is none" (which partly explains my vehement dislike for the Intelligent Design crowd, but that is another topic).

Other than that - your life, your body and as long as you do not mutilate others against their will - enjoy it. It is not like I do not damage myself from time to time with a nice glass of alcohol.

Oh, and by the way, get help.

I second this.

Try meditating. It's relaxing and not risky.
Read post directly above this quoted post.

I've tried meditation. It doesn't work.
Then get rid of whatever is driving you to do this, if at all possible.

I second this.

As do I.

Read post directly above this quoted post.
You need to get help.

You're 13 and you have scars that bad? Either you're being emo or you really do need help. Well, you'd probably need it in both cases anyway... I think you just need to cheer up. Get your mind off of your problems and eventually you'll find they weren't quite so big as you thought.
When they surround me it's kind of hard to not notice them.

Then get rid of whatever is driving you to do this, if at all possible.
Can I get rid of reality? I doubt it.

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.

Oh yeah how horrible and dark your life must be never mind the bad things that has happened to everyone else eh? Lets start I saw my cat being torn apart by dogs when I was 6 now its your turn

When they surround me it's kind of hard to not notice them.
Ok, what are these big emo problems?

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?

I'm not going to tell you to stop, go on doing that if you feel like it.
But I'm curious as to why you'd post about that here? What kind of responses are you hoping for?
Judging from your answers to the posts so far, I'd say you are currently looking to drag yourself even deeper into pain, not trying to get out of it.

One assumes you have consulted other people about this ?
You see, the problem is, if I do, people will act as negatively as the people posting in this thread are. So I do not. Besides, I doubt they can help me.

Really, you do need help. Get it. Soon. As a matter of fact, get it then post.

You see, the problem is, if I do, people will act as negatively as the people posting in this thread are. So I do not. Besides, I doubt they can help me.
Whats wrong with trying other forms of pain?

You see, the problem is, if I do, people will act as negatively as the people posting in this thread are. So I do not. Besides, I doubt they can help me.
Therapists are surprisingly understanding, you realize that, right?

Can I get rid of reality? I doubt it.

My best friend used to do this, and she might well still do so, she doesn't mention it. Like you she has a lot of problems. Take my advice to her; see someone professional, talk to people about your problems. Maybe do some meditation or take up a hobby like boxing - something that allows an outlet to your anger and can also cause pain, but not in a harmful way. IE, punching a punchbag, not actual boxing in a ring.

Can I get rid of reality? I doubt it.


Please share with the group how tough your life is that you must cut yourself.

Daddy take away your gameboy? :rolleyes:

I haven't eaten poo, but I know it's stupid. So is cutting yourself. Snap out of it, and grow up, kid.

Oh, hi Fass. You should take the "what kind of partner are you" test on my thread.

As for cutting myself, I have a terrible fear of knives and needles. I was reading a webcomic and a character got stabbed, and I actually got all cold and clammy and felt the blood drain from my face. I do, however, practice what some religious folk would call "self-abuse." Try doing that instead...it doesn't leave scars unless you're really kinky.

I'm not going to tell you to stop, go on doing that if you feel like it.
But I'm curious as to why you'd post about that here? What kind of responses are you hoping for?
Judging from your answers to the posts so far, I'd say you are currently looking to drag yourself even deeper into pain, not trying to get out of it.
No, I'm just looking for someone else who has suffered as much pain as I have. The thing is, when doing it on an internet forum, you can easily escape all the people who are negative towards you for doing what you do.

My best friend used to do this, and she might well still do so, she doesn't mention it. Like you she has a lot of problems. Take my advice to her; see someone professional, talk to people about your problems. Maybe do some meditation or take up a hobby like boxing - something that allows an outlet to your anger and can also cause pain, but not in a harmful way. IE, punching a punchbag, not actual boxing in a ring.Pretty good advice. I second this.

No, I'm just looking for someone else who has suffered as much pain as I have. The thing is, when doing it on an internet forum, you can easily escape all the people who are negative towards you for doing what you do.
Can you please tell me what these big traumatic issues are? People might understand if you actually say something. Also, finding religion can also help. It's a good escape from the pain of everyday life. It's very...reassuring.

No, I'm just looking for someone else who has suffered as much pain as I have. The thing is, when doing it on an internet forum, you can easily escape all the people who are negative towards you for doing what you do.

Well, you've got one here. So, what do you want to know from me?

You see, the problem is, if I do, people will act as negatively as the people posting in this thread are. So I do not. Besides, I doubt they can help me.

As said - I have no problem with your self mutilation as such. I do however have a problem with your arrogance - your assumption that noone can possibly be able to think of things you could not.

Aside from which, you'd be surprised how well and unjudgemental professional counsellors can listen to someone who gives them money.

Please share with the group how tough your life is that you must cut yourself.

Daddy take away your gameboy? :rolleyes:
Let's see here. My family is 30k in debt. In the last year, I have lost four of my animal family, and lost two of my human family. I saw two of my animal family and one of my human family die before my eyes. My dad will go into a rage if I spill one droplet of water onto a napkin. And that's just off the top of my head.

As said - I have no problem with your self mutilation as such. I do however have a problem with your arrogance - your assumption that noone can possibly be able to think of things you could not.

Aside from which, you'd be surprised how well and unjudgemental professional counsellors can listen to someone who gives them money.
Seeing the situation he appears to be in, money may be a problem...

Let's see here. My family is 30k in debt. In the last year, I have lost four of my animal family, and lost two of my human family. I saw two of my animal family and one of my human family die before my eyes. My dad will go into a rage if I spill one droplet of water onto a napkin. And that's just off the top of my head.
Oh. Well...don't know what to say.

Wow, It's this easy to get noticed? Geez...

Well, you've got one here. So, what do you want to know from me?
Yes, it does seem that your the only one who hasn't flamed me because of what I have posted. But your usually the one asking for help, aren't you?

Can I get rid of reality? I doubt it.

Oh, stop it. I mean it. And show a bit of maturity.

What are your problems? 14 and not being able to get a girlfriend, I seem to recall from yesterday? Grow up. Put that into perspective. Thousands of people starve to death every day, and yet you're so blinded by your own angst and need for attention, that you take a situation that is shared by millions upon millions of western schoolchildren and make yourself depressed over it to the point of harming yourself?

Now, if you have serious problems, if you've been molested as a child or get beaten up at school every day, or have a severe illness, or whatever, I sincerely apologise, because i've had some rough times myself, but otherwise....you really need to get over your small world. If one of the above serious reasons is the case, i'm afraid that nobody here can help you and you need to seek professional help. Otherwise you simply need to wake up to yourself.

Yes, it does seem that your the only one who hasn't flamed me because of what I have posted. But your usually the one asking for help, aren't you?
Thoses posts aren't flames. Flames are inflammatory and insulting posts. We are trying to help you.

get beaten up at school every day
Yes, actually. It's called Phys. Ed. The teachers just believe the bruises are simply sports accidents. I don't say anything to them, of course. But the pain is different from when I do it to myself. It actually hurts, unlike the peace I find when I do it to myself. And believe me, I really don't care about my love life.

Yes, it does seem that your the only one who hasn't flamed me because of what I have posted. But your usually the one asking for help, aren't you?

When I'm down, I normally try all I can think of to get better. I'm not that far down yet to enjoy the sensation, that's correct.
I have cut myself in the past, but I used it as a punishment against myself, it was motivated more by self-hatred than by trying to get away from inner pain. I've found different outlets for that.

Let's see here. My family is 30k in debt. In the last year, I have lost four of my animal family, and lost two of my human family. I saw two of my animal family and one of my human family die before my eyes. My dad will go into a rage if I spill one droplet of water onto a napkin. And that's just off the top of my head.

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You have to realize that cutting yourself over it won't help anything. Get help. Soon.

Thoses posts aren't flames. Flames are inflammatory and insulting posts. We are trying to help you.
So I suppose that calling me "emo" and "immature" is supposed to help me?

Peaceful things:
Petting animals
Painting
Playing music
Listening to music
Meditating
Long walks in quiet places
The fun kind of self-abuse
Photography
Sleeping
Writing poetry/music/stories
Watching tv (if you pick the right channel)


There's lots of peaceful shit that doesn't involve harming yourself.
Anybody care to add?

So I suppose that calling me "emo" and "immature" is supposed to help me?

Do you have problems?

If so, then ignore the morons.

If not, laugh.

Yes, actually. It's called Phys. Ed. The teachers just believe the bruises are simply sports accidents. I don't say anything to them, of course. But the pain is different from when I do it to myself. It actually hurts, unlike the peace I find when I do it to myself. And believe me, I really don't care about my love life.

OK, maybe take a self-defence course? It's what I did. It'll boost your confidence and I haven't had a hand laid upon me in years.

Let me explain something to you. It doesn't hurt because your brain knows it's coming, so it won't register it as pain. You serously need to see a therapist or at least talk to one of your teachers about it.

*avoids all the attacks on self-harmers by ignorant people*

If you are self-harming, try this website and click the relevant link http://www.statik.tk/ (if you sroll down, there is an alternative menu for those who can't use the drop-down menu)

Befrienders International (http://www.befrienders.org) also has a self-harm page


Peace

Hmm... I wonder where Silence And Nothing is. I'm sure she'd agree with me. She knows what it's like. She knows the joy it brings. Unlike most of you here. Unless you have performed it, you really shouldn't be saying anythin about it.

You have to realize that cutting yourself over it won't help anything. Get help. Soon.
Yes. You can't change the things that weigh on you, but you can learn to change the way you deal with them. As in finding an outlet for your worries and frustrations and fears other than taking it out on yourself.

ETA: I don't know, but maybe one of these links (http://eqi.org/cutting1.htm) might be helpful for you.

Yes, actually. It's called Phys. Ed. The teachers just believe the bruises are simply sports accidents. I don't say anything to them, of course. But the pain is different from when I do it to myself. It actually hurts, unlike the peace I find when I do it to myself. And believe me, I really don't care about my love life.

Talk to people about your problems, first off. And I mean actual people you can see and emote with, not anonymous internet posters. You must have good friends, or at least someone you can trust; confide in them.

Secondly, take up a sport, like boxing or football, maybe Rugby. Something that involves some physical pain but doesn't run the risk of killing yourself. Thus you get some pain, some exercise and meet some new people who you might eventually confide in and could help you.

Thirdly. I know this is easy to say and difficult to do, but trsut me. I used to be quite the worrier; I didn't have quite the problems you did, but thats besides the point. I eventually came to realise, when my OCD became almost overwhelming, that worrying solves nothing. It doesn't help your problems and just makes them seem worse. The world may seem to be on your shoulders, but it really isn't. Things wil get better; money can eventually be paid off; grief will go away and good memories remain; pain passes. Try and do something that you like everyday, something that really cheers you up, and do it for a while.

Hmm... I wonder where Silence And Nothing is. I'm sure she'd agree with me. She knows what it's like. She knows the joy it brings. Unlike most of you here. Unless you have performed it, you really shouldn't be saying anythin about it.

Oy, her again...Don't remind me...

So I suppose that calling me "emo" and "immature" is supposed to help me?

Sigh.

But that's what you're coming across as, sonny - that's not my doing. If you have real problems, we've already suggested -repeatedly- that you get professional help. Don't post self pitiful threads on an internet forum. That's just asking for trouble.

OK, maybe take a self-defence course? It's what I did. It'll boost your confidence and I haven't had a hand laid upon me in years.
Like I can do that. I have two very debilitating defects. One is called motor skill approxia, which screws up the way my arm and hand joints bend. The other is called fetal hypoxia, which screws up the way my legs and feet joints bend. I doubt I could beat an egg.

Talk to people about your problems, first off. And I mean actual people you can see and emote with, not anonymous internet posters. You must have good friends, or at least someone you can trust; confide in them.

Secondly, take up a sport, like boxing or football, maybe Rugby. Something that involves some physical pain but doesn't run the risk of killing yourself. Thus you get some pain, some exercise and meet some new people who you might eventually confide in and could help you.

Thirdly. I know this is easy to say and difficult to do, but trsut me. I used to be quite the worrier; I didn't have quite the problems you did, but thats besides the point. I eventually came to realise, when my OCD became almost overwhelming, that worrying solves nothing. It doesn't help your problems and just makes them seem worse. The world may seem to be on your shoulders, but it really isn't. Things wil get better; money can eventually be paid off; grief will go away and good memories remain; pain passes. Try and do something that you like everyday, something that really cheers you up, and do it for a while.
Friends? Yeah right. I hate friends. They just cause more pain. And read the post in which I talked about my physical defects. There's no way I can play a sport.

Like I can do that. I have two very debilitating defects. One is called motor skill approxia, which screws up the way my arm and hand joints bend. The other is called fetal hypoxia, which screws up the way my legs and feet joints bend. I doubt I could beat an egg.

Actually, so long as you can move, you can most likely learn it.

And if you can walk, you can definately beat an egg.

Hmm... I wonder where Silence And Nothing is. I'm sure she'd agree with me. She knows what it's like. She knows the joy it brings. Unlike most of you here. Unless you have performed it, you really shouldn't be saying anythin about it.

I had a close friend that did it, so I guess i'm better qualified than most.

Like I can do that. I have two very debilitating defects. One is called motor skill approxia, which screws up the way my arm and hand joints bend. The other is called fetal hypoxia, which screws up the way my legs and feet joints bend. I doubt I could beat an egg.
Does your school have a consular? Talk to him/her.

Like I can do that. I have two very debilitating defects. One is called motor skill approxia, which screws up the way my arm and hand joints bend. The other is called fetal hypoxia, which screws up the way my legs and feet joints bend. I doubt I could beat an egg.

Whatever. Get a medical exception for P.E. then, if it's really that bad.

Actually, so long as you can move, you can most likely learn it.

And if you can walk, you can definately beat an egg.
Yes, but what good will it do if I cannot perform it well. My defects hold me back from achieving ANY good physical performance.

My first reaction was - grow up (coming from a town full of emo kids generally gives me that reaction). Posting stuff like this on NS General always seems like a "look at me" rather than a cry for help.

You're still a kid, and your problems are small compared to other stuff thats going on in the world. You could be a lot LOT worse off.

Get help. Go to a doctor. Call a helpline. Talk to a friend. Find something else to do rather than self harm.

The other is called fetal hypoxia, which screws up the way my legs and feet joints bend.

It is ? I thought fetal hypoxia was a condition where the brain of a foetus doesn't get enough oxygen.

Does your school have a consular? Talk to him/her.
Mmm Hmm. Then the counselar leaks my session to him to a few teachers. Then they leak it to some students. Then it spreads through the school. Nuff said.

Yes, but what good will it do if I cannot perform it well. My defects hold me back from achieving ANY good physical performance.

Actually, you should be able to do it alright You won't be Jet Lee, but yo ushould be able to defend yourself.

Friends? Yeah right. I hate friends. They just cause more pain. And read the post in which I talked about my physical defects. There's no way I can play a sport.

Look, with that attitude you'll just start drowning in more misery. There has to be at least one person who you trust and can talk with - be it someone of your own age, a parent, an adult friend - someone. Everyone has at least one person they can trust and talk to - hell, Hitler had Eva Braun, and he was a genocidal dictator. Talk to them, gradually reveal your problems and ask them to help you, or at the very least just understand.

Now then you have physical problems. Okay, so no rugby for you. How about something less physical? Like Golf, or swimming? Both are good sports without too much physical prowess needed. Or, if you can get a wheelchair or something, join one of those clubs that crippled or hurt people join - like the ones in Murderball, for example.

It is ? I thought fetal hypoxia was a condition where the brain of a foetus doesn't get enough oxygen.
Well that's true. But the fetal hypoxia happened like, right when I was being born. So they kind of had to do a few wierd things to my mom, and they had to pull me out in a really wierd way, thereby causing my legs and feet to be fucked up.

Mmm Hmm. Then the counselar leaks my session to him to a few teachers. Then they leak it to some students. Then it spreads through the school. Nuff said.

Councillors can't do that - they have an oath/bond that says they can't do that - hell, thats why they're there in the first place. They can be trusted.

My first reaction was - grow up (coming from a town full of emo kids generally gives me that reaction). Posting stuff like this on NS General always seems like a "look at me" rather than a cry for help.

You're still a kid, and your problems are small compared to other stuff thats going on in the world. You could be a lot LOT worse off.

Get help. Go to a doctor. Call a helpline. Talk to a friend. Find something else to do rather than self harm.
I never posted asking for help. I posted seeking others thoughts on this topic.

Mmm Hmm. Then the counselar leaks my session to him to a few teachers. Then they leak it to some students. Then it spreads through the school. Nuff said.
I don't want to sound stupid, but are there any churches near your house? Priests are very good sources of advice (besides the child abusers, of course).

Councillors can't do that - they have an oath/bond that says they can't do that - hell, thats why they're there in the first place. They can be trusted.
I've somewhat learned not to trust people over the years. And unless they die if they break the oath, I doubt any of them would uphold it. And it's middle school. Even if he doesn't leak it, IT WILL get out.

Heh.

Ah, childhood. The happiest days of your life. Enjoy it while it lasts.

I don't want to sound stupid, but are there any churches near your house? Priests are very good sources of advice (besides the child abusers, of course).
Naliitr <---- Athiest

Fass. I ask you. Have you cut yourself? If you have, then you know the joy it brings. If not, then really now. Should you say anything at all?

Of course I haven't cut myself, as I'm not an idiot.

God, people like you annoy me so much. "Oh, my pitiful little life is so sucky, waaah, I know, I'll cut myself! That'll help!!!" When there are people starving to death in this world, you're acting like a fucking moron mutilating yourself because your Western lifestyle bores you? Grow the hell up, and get some help.

Heh.

Ah, childhood. The happiest days of your life. Enjoy it while it lasts.
If these are going to be the happiest days of my life, I just can't fucking wait for adulthood.

Naliitr <---- Athiest

So? You can still talk to them. They won't throw you out just because you're an atheist.

Naliitr <---- Athiest
Maybe you should rethink that. I dunna, but it might help. And priests really can't say a damned thing about what you talk to them or they believe they go to Hell or something.

Of course I haven't cut myself, as I'm not an idiot.

God, people like you annoy me so much. "Oh, my pitiful little life is so sucky, waaah, I know, I'll cut myself! That'll help!!!" When there are people starving to death in this world, you're acting like a fucking moron mutilating yourself because your Western lifestyle bores you? Grow the hell up, and get some help.
Will you please actually read my posts instead of looking at them and deciding "THIS GUY'S A MORON CAUSE HE CUTS HIMSELF!!!11!!!ONE". Unless you have lived a life in which nothing goes right what so ever, you won't know how much cutting helps relieve the pain.

Your situation may be outside your control. Your reaction to it, however, is certainly within it.

Nobody has to do what you do or be who you are in order to understand pain. What an arrogant idea. And even if your pain is somehow unique, coming in here as if you're the High Priest of All That Is Dark and Depressing is only going to get you the kind of responses you're trying to deflect. Enough of this kind of behavior, and the number of people who'll give a shit enough to try and really help you will dwindle even furhter than it already has.

If you're unwilling to seriously help yourself, then why should anyone else try?

If these are going to be the happiest days of my life, I just can't fucking wait for adulthood.

Get. Help. Now.

Of course I haven't cut myself, as I'm not an idiot.

God, people like you annoy me so much. "Oh, my pitiful little life is so sucky, waaah, I know, I'll cut myself! That'll help!!!" When there are people starving to death in this world, you're acting like a fucking moron mutilating yourself because your Western lifestyle bores you? Grow the hell up, and get some help.

Jesus Fass, have some goddamn compassion. Yes, a large number of people are emo-like and have no real problems. But there are people who have genuine problems, and pain is sometimes the only relief. Get over your damned arrogance and belief in your superiority and see that. Hell, I should know, my best friend, the girl I'm still in love with, does it and it tears me apart every time she talks about it, and she does have problems.

So? You can still talk to them. They won't throw you out just because you're an atheist.
No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.

I ask you have you tried Jesus? He has a very useful knack for subduing problems of any kind. I would suggest you check this option out if you have not already for you are progressing in a direction that is very harmful to the soul.

Will you please actually read my posts instead of looking at them and deciding "THIS GUY'S A MORON CAUSE HE CUTS HIMSELF!!!11!!!ONE". Unless you have lived a life in which nothing goes right what so ever, you won't know how much cutting helps relieve the pain.
Fass knows depression. He lives in Scandinavia.

And sorry, one more time, act like a moron, get treated like one. It's very simple.

Your situation may be outside your control. Your reaction to it, however, is certainly within it.

Nobody has to do what you do or be who you are in order to understand pain. What an arrogant idea. And even if your pain is somehow unique, coming in here as if you're the High Priest of All That Is Dark and Depressing is only going to get you the kind of responses you're trying to deflect. Enough of this kind of behavior, and the number of people who'll give a shit enough to try and really help you will dwindle even furhter than it already has.

If you're unwilling to seriously help yourself, then why should anyone else try?

This is exacty my point, Naliitr. Talk to pople, get a hobby, but ultimately only you can help yourself. You have to be the one to take the first step out of the darkness and cutting. It won't be easy, I won't lie to you, but it can be done.

No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"

Okay, thats just plain daft. They'l actually help you and talk to you about your problems.

No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"
Then you are being as closed-minded as those you accuse here. You honestly think all clergy are Company men? The help you require demands EFFORT. A search ranging far wider than your own neighborhood.

I ask you have you tried Jesus? He has a very useful knack for subduing problems of any kind. I would suggest you check this option out if you have not already for you are progressing in a direction that is very harmful to the soul.
Nope. But I doubt he will work.

No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"

Erm... no. I know two priests of differng religions and they aren't like that.

Will you please actually read my posts instead of looking at them and deciding "THIS GUY'S A MORON CAUSE HE CUTS HIMSELF!!!11!!!ONE". Unless you have lived a life in which nothing goes right what so ever, you won't know how much cutting helps relieve the pain.
You never respond to my posts, do you? Anyone think that's because I'm actually offering viable options.

Will you please actually read my posts instead of looking at them and deciding "THIS GUY'S A MORON CAUSE HE CUTS HIMSELF!!!11!!!ONE". Unless you have lived a life in which nothing goes right what so ever, you won't know how much cutting helps relieve the pain.

So, what you really want to do is continue treating the symptoms rather than the disease?

Will you please actually read my posts instead of looking at them and deciding "THIS GUY'S A MORON CAUSE HE CUTS HIMSELF!!!11!!!ONE".

Cutting yourself makes you a moron. That is, if you weren't one before you started cutting yourself, in which case it makes you a dolt.

Unless you have lived a life in which nothing goes right what so ever, you won't know how much cutting helps relieve the pain.

"Waaah, waaah, waaah!" Boohoo! You think your life sucks? You think you have it harder than anyone else? You think you deserve more pity? Pity when I can turn the TV on and see kids who have gotten their limbs blown off by a bomb who still manage to go on with their lives because they're not some pathetic losers?

Seriously, snap out of it and this illusion that your life is any harder than anyone else's. You're seriously being pathetic.

Naliitr <---- Athiest
Oh, now THERE's a surprise. I think I'm gonna have a heart attack and DIE from that surprise.

Never, ever talk to a priest. Unless it is to tell them they are wrong.

Then you are being as closed-minded as those you accuse here. You honestly think all clergy are Company men? The help you require demands EFFORT. A search ranging far wider than your own neighborhood.
Yep. That's a great idea. "Hey Mom, can you drive me to a church outside of our neighboorhood? I need to talk to a priest about the fact that I cut myself!" I know not all clergy men are like that, but unfortuanetly, most are.

Never, ever talk to a priest. Unless it is to tell them they are wrong.

Yeah, thanks for that helpful pearl of wisdom. Whether you believe in a god or not, priests can be helpful. You can talk to tem, ask them not to ive guidance in a holy book but just listen. Any decent human being would.

No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"
Serously, have you ever met a Priest? I am not myself Catholic, but at my cousin's wedding, I met a very friendly and understand Priest. Most of them are like that. Just go to a Catholic Church, some of the Bible Belt pastors are just like what you described.

Nope. But I doubt he will work.
AH -- but, to use YOUR OWN LOGIC, you haven't TRIED it, have you? Good grief, that was too easy. If you don't KNOW of this kind of help, you shouldn't talk. Right, my cheery sausage?

Yep. That's a great idea. "Hey Mom, can you drive me to a church outside of our neighboorhood? I need to talk to a priest about the fact that I cut myself!" I know not all clergy men are like that, but unfortuanetly, most are.

You know what?

First: What the heck do you base that on?

Second: You aren't acceptin help. Everyone, I suggest we leave him alone.

No, but if I say "Father, I need help. I cut myself." Then they'll be like "MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU! MAY THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPEL YOU!"

Ok, now THAT is just ignorant. I've met a good number of priests and nuns in my life so far, and most of them (9 out of 10) where great, helpful, insightful, compassionate, deep persons. Regardless if you shared their faith or not.

Small question:

Why do you actually care if people find out ? Will it actually make things worse ?

AH -- but, to use YOUR OWN LOGIC, you haven't TRIED it, have you? Good grief, that was too easy. If you don't KNOW of this kind of help, you shouldn't talk. Right, my cheery sausage?

Despite the condescending tone, Intangelon does have a point.

Yep. That's a great idea. "Hey Mom, can you drive me to a church outside of our neighboorhood? I need to talk to a priest about the fact that I cut myself!" I know not all clergy men are like that, but unfortuanetly, most are.
That really isn't true. And if worst comes to worst, can't you take a bus or something?

Here's some poetry of mine. I find that writing it is a good way to cope. But it still isn't good enough.

The Scars

What do you think when you see the scars?
That I'm some kind of freak?
That I'm just looking for attention?

Do you think that I'm weak?
Searching for a way out of this misery?
And I take the easiest way out?

Do you think that I'm a coward?
That I don't dare face the real world?
That I'm afraid to face myself and my life?

Then I think to myself
Have you faced the real world?
Have you faced yourself and your life?

I have faced the real world
It is not what you'd like
It's not perfect, not like we think

I have faced myself
And I hated what I saw
We're not perfect, not like we think

I have faced my life
I then knew why I hated the rest
For there, I saw the scars that could not be seen

As I looked upon my life and my self, I then felt the pain
Of the scars which could not be seen
And there, I found pain which none have felt

Why don't you try it?
For you will see, it offers solace
From the pain from the scars which can not be seen

So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside.

Are you seriously telling someone to find god?

*makes popcorn*

For a thirteen-year-old, you seem awful smart, judging by your posts. You use correct spelling and grammar, you have complex (although questionable) opinions, I'd say that you must be talented.

So what if you're disabled, so what if the world is working against you, you're better than them anyway. Study hard, make good grades, get an education; prove that physical handicaps and the disdain of society can't stop you.

You can be great. Don't let anybody stop you.

Yep. That's a great idea. "Hey Mom, can you drive me to a church outside of our neighboorhood? I need to talk to a priest about the fact that I cut myself!" I know not all clergy men are like that, but unfortuanetly, most are.
Listen, piss-ant, the effort will need to come from YOU. YOU do some damned research and YOU hoof yourself or negotiate the HORRIFYINGLY COMPLEX task of riding public transport. I've officially tired of you -- if it's really so bad and you're really that lazy, then you don't honestly WANT help. If that's the case, cut away -- only next time, push harder.:headbang:

AH -- but, to use YOUR OWN LOGIC, you haven't TRIED it, have you? Good grief, that was too easy. If you don't KNOW of this kind of help, you shouldn't talk. Right, my cheery sausage?
Actually, yes I have. Religion may help with the coping, but I will constantly be reminded that it's all false.

Here's some poetry of mine. I find that writing it is a good way to cope. But it still isn't good enough.

So, you really just are an emo troll? :rolleyes:

Ok, now THAT is just ignorant. I've met a good number of priests and nuns in my life so far, and most of them (9 out of 10) where great, helpful, insightful, compassionate, deep persons. Regardless if you shared their faith or not.
All the preists that I've met, well, they aren't exactly as you describe them.

Here's some poetry of mine. I find that writing it is a good way to cope. But it still isn't good enough.

The Scars

What do you think when you see the scars?

*SNIP, for the love of poetry*

Look, writing it down is a good step, but jeez, don't let bad poetry be your only therapy. You're a psychic pig wallowing in your pen of misery. It's only entertaining for a while. Then it becomes a way of life. Suit yourself, but expect very little sympathy.

All the preists that I've met, well, they aren't exactly as you describe them.
And you've met HOW many, exactly?

If these are going to be the happiest days of my life, I just can't fucking wait for adulthood.

Oh, you'll love it.

You know, I hated my childhood. Despised my teenage years. I would have been a cutter, if that sort of thing was cool back then. But when I look back on, my problems, which were all-consuming then, were relatively minor. Things aren't as bad as you think.

Oh, and I know you're going to ignore this. You know why? Because I ignored all the advice that was given to me. I should have followed it, but then again hindsight is always 20/20.

You'll probably turn out to be a decent human being. Who knows, maybe you'll even start to enjoy life in a few years. At least that's something to look forward to, eh?

I say do whatever you want. If you want to cut yourself, cut yourself. Perhaps we should discourage such actions, but I think if you feel like cutting yourself is something you want to do you should not be stopped from doing it by force of anything beyond peer/parental pressure.
I sometimes use self-abuse, not quite to that extreme, but still harming myself purposely. I know what you mean when you say sometimes self-abuse is sometimes more of a relief from pain than an infliction of pain.
Yeah, I do it just not to the extreme, like when I say something stupid, like really stupid and offensive do I. and tats maybe only hitting my head agasin't the wall or punching a table... it hurts. Its more self-discipline than anything, just to stop me doing it again. Like punishment they used to have at schools (coporal punishment is it?) yeah.

So, you really just are an emo troll? :rolleyes:

Emo Troll? Oh come on, gimmee a break here. YES, the guy is annoying and YES he may be sarcastic at times, but he does seem to have genuine problems. I thought a large part of being a doctor was compassion, Fass? Despite your preconceptions, not all depressed people are emo.

Listen, piss-ant, the effort will need to come from YOU. YOU do some damned research and YOU hoof yourself or negotiate the HORRIFYINGLY COMPLEX task of riding public transport. I've officially tired of you -- if it's really so bad and you're really that lazy, then you don't honestly WANT help. If that's the case, cut away -- only next time, push harder.:headbang:
Ok, so what exactly are you asking me to do? Sneak out of my house so I can go find a priest to talk to? Note: My parents do not allow me to leave the house, except when going shopping or going to school.

Small question:

Why do you actually care if people find out ? Will it actually make things worse ?



Despite the condescending tone, Intangelon does have a point.
It isn't condescension, it's frustration. But hey, it's just one of the many services I offer.

I don't quite understand the point of this thread, all he asked for were opinions and some how everyone has started telling him what to do. Maybe it would be best if everyone just posted what they thought about self harm rather thatn trying to get him to quit.

Here's some poetry of mine. I find that writing it is a good way to cope. But it still isn't good enough.

The Scars

What do you think when you see the scars?
That I'm some kind of freak?
That I'm just looking for attention?

Do you think that I'm weak?
Searching for a way out of this misery?
And I take the easiest way out?

Do you think that I'm a coward?
That I don't dare face the real world?
That I'm afraid to face myself and my life?

Then I think to myself
Have you faced the real world?
Have you faced yourself and your life?

I have faced the real world
It is not what you'd like
It's not perfect, not like we think

I have faced myself
And I hated what I saw
We're not perfect, not like we think

I have faced my life
I then knew why I hated the rest
For there, I saw the scars that could not be seen

As I looked upon my life and my self, I then felt the pain
Of the scars which could not be seen
And there, I found pain which none have felt

Why don't you try it?
For you will see, it offers solace
From the pain from the scars which can not be seen

So unless you have lived my life, hush.
For the scars on the outside
Are nothing compared to those on the inside.

Depression settled
like a vast length of fine chain
slithering down through a hole in the sky
ever piling upon my shoulders
until I could stand no more


My old depression poetry. Much better than yours, IMHO. But you'll get there, if you live;)

And you've met HOW many, exactly?
Ten. You said nine of out ten aren't like that? Well I've met ten, and they're all like that.

So, you really just are an emo troll? :rolleyes:
Honestly, Fass, the one much closer to trolling in this thread is you.

If you find what he does so despiccable and are of the opinion that he's just doing it because he's a whiny jerk who wants to get attention and all it needs for him to stop it is to wake up and see that others have it worse, then, by all means, be assured we all got that. We heard you. You were plenty loud enough.

So, you really just are an emo troll? :rolleyes:
My god Fass, are you listening? I simply asked people's opinions on Self-Abuse. Now everyone is screaming at me to get help.

Emo Troll? Oh come on, gimmee a break here. YES, the guy is annoying and YES he may be sarcastic at times, but he does seem to have genuine problems. I thought a large part of being a doctor was compassion, Fass? Despite your preconceptions, not all depressed people are emo.

Did you read the "poem"? Give me a fucking break. This is a screaming emo yearning for attention in his very own "waah, I cut myself because life sucks so much, here's my godawful 'poetry'" thread. In fact, it's so over the top loser-emo, that I'm pretty damn sure it's just a troll.

My opinion of self harm: Pure Idiocy

Ok, so what exactly are you asking me to do? Sneak out of my house so I can go find a priest to talk to? Note: My parents do not allow me to leave the house, except when going shopping or going to school.
If that's the only way to get help, then yes, that's what I'm suggesting. I'm not sure about laws where you're from, but if your parents truly are the ogres you portray them to be, then Child Protective Services (or similar agency needs to step in).

I sit back and await your next standard deflection. I'm gonna go with "if I sneak out, they'll kill me" or "CPS won't work".

Any takers?

My god Fass, are you listening? I simply asked people's opinions on Self-Abuse. Now everyone is screaming at me to get help.

I find it rather interesting, though, that you only reply to the flaming/trolling posts, rather than to those who re willing to offer their opinion....

Seems to me you're currently trying to re-assert your depression, not looking for different opinions.

My opinion: Pure Idiocy
Thank you for actually giving your opinion instead of yelling at me to get help.

Did you read the "poem"? Give me a fucking break. This is a screaming emo yearning for attention in his very own "waah, I cut myself because life sucks so much, here's my godawful 'poetry'" thread. In fact, it's so over the top loser-emo, that I'm pretty damn sure it's just a troll.
Ugh, I do believe I have found use of my ignore list, like so many others did when I still capitalized all my words.

Am I the only one disappointed that this thread isn't about masturbation?

Ten. You said nine of out ten aren't like that? Well I've met ten, and they're all like that.
The 9 of 10 was someone else. Have you any idea how many professional and clerical counselors there are? Ten? My poor squashed cabbage leaf, you haven't eve scratched the scratch on the surface. I said it would take effort, not a half-assed flail.

If that's the only way to get help, then yes, that's what I'm suggesting. I'm not sure about laws where you're from, but if your parents truly are the ogres you portray them to be, then Child Protective Services (or similar agency needs to step in).

I sit back and await your next standard deflection. I'm gonna go with "if I sneak out, they'll kill me" or "CPS won't work".

Any takers?
Ok, let's say I do get out. A thirteen year old by himself on public transit. Think about it.

That's sad. I guarantee sometime, after you stop - maybe years later - you'll feel like hitting yourself for what you're doing, because the scars don't go away. Take up skateboarding or something, it's a lot more fun. Plus it's good to find something that'll give joy without pain... sort of, heh. Just wear a helmet.

Am I the only one disappointed that this thread isn't about masturbation?

are you suggesting a hijack?

Depression settled
like a vast length of fine chain
slithering down through a hole in the sky
ever piling upon my shoulders
until I could stand no more


My old depression poetry. Much better than yours, IMHO. But you'll get there, if you live;)
Nope. That poem sucks, too. All poetry expressing teenage angst sucks -- that's the definition of the situation. You aren't a depressed teenager until you write awful poetry.

Ok, let's say I do get out. A thirteen year old by himself on public transit. Think about it.

Huh? What about it???

Ok, let's say I do get out. A thirteen year old by himself on public transit. Think about it.

I'm thinking, I see nothiong wrong with that idea.

I find it rather interesting, though, that you only reply to the flaming/trolling posts, rather than to those who re willing to offer their opinion....

Seems to me you're currently trying to re-assert your depression, not looking for different opinions. What she said. Definitely. And sadly so.


Am I the only one disappointed that this thread isn't about masturbation? No. :p

I don't engage in deliberate self-abuse.

I, for the most part am abused by a close circle of friends. Afterall, Why should I have all the fun? :)

This has two advantages:
1)Reciprocation. From time to time, you get to do the abusing.

2) Social Interaction. What's the point of being screwed up if there's nobody to share it with?

Am I the only one disappointed that this thread isn't about masturbation?

There's abuse involved in masturbation? :confused:
I never knew I was THAT self-destructive...

Nope. That poem sucks, too. All poetry expressing teenage angst sucks -- that's the definition of the situation. You aren't a depressed teenager until you write awful poetry.

It sux not:upyours:

You ******* ****, *** ****!

are you suggesting a hijack?

Motion seconded. Let the Hijack begin!

Ok, let's say I do get out. A thirteen year old by himself on public transit. Think about it.

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Unless you live in a warzone, I fail to see the problem. They're called Bus Conductors, not Bus Abductors...

are you suggesting a hijack?

How hard could it be? We just suggest instead of cutting himself Naliitr chokes the chicken, and go on from there.

Huh? What about it???
You do realize where I live, right? I live near Los Angeles. Crime capital of the world. Sure, it may mostly be gangster activity, but the Amber Alert isn't exactly that effective.

Ok, let's say I do get out. A thirteen year old by himself on public transit. Think about it.
I can think about it. It's easy. I was on public transport when I was 10. It was that or miss out on all the stuff downtown Seattle had to offer because I was stuck in a pasture-laden bedroom community where you weren't shit if you weren't an athlete and less than shit if you were a musician. Care to try again? 'Cause you're plenty old enough to use public transport.

There's abuse involved in masturbation? :confused:
I never knew I was THAT self-destructive...

No silly, the foolish over zealous priests used to call it self abuse, back when they told people it'd turn them blind.

Ugh, I do believe I have found use of my ignore list, like so many others did when I still capitalized all my words.

Oh, please. Your "poetry" wasn't even original. I can google, you know, and see exactly where you stole such little titbits as "So unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside Are nothing compared to those on the inside" which is almost verbatim from "self injury is a way to cope, so unless you have lived my life hush, because the scars on the outside aren't as many as the scars on the inside," the emo motto all 13 year old emo girls have on their blogs.

You do realize where I live, right? I live near Los Angeles. Crime capital of the world. Sure, it may mostly be gangster activity, but the Amber Alert isn't exactly that effective.

Are you implying that teenagers in Los Angeles are prisoners in their parents' houses? I somehow find that extremely hard to believe...

...

Unless you live in a warzone, I fail to see the problem. They're called Bus Conductors, not Bus Abductors...
'We're taking this bus to Cuba'

Oh and Fass, if you don't respect me because you think I'm a "Moronic Emo Kid", why are you even posting on this thread? You're certainly not posting your opinion, and your certainly not trying to help me.

It sux not:upyours:

You ******* ****, *** ****!
Ah. Thank you for making my point.

(and if you can't type the words, you aren't worthy of them)

Oh, please. Your "poetry" wasn't even original. I can google, you know, and see exactly where you stole such little titbits as "So unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside Are nothing compared to those on the inside" which is almost verbatim from "s"elf injury is a way to cope, so unless you have lived my life hush, because the scars on the outside aren't as many as the scars on the inside," the emo motto all 13 year old emo girls have on their blogs.
Actually, I thought that up on my own. Didn't even know there was that motto...


Are you implying that teenagers in Los Angeles are prisoners in their parents' houses? I somehow find that extremely hard to believe...
No no no no no! What I am implying is a thirteen year old boy alone on public transit is a juicy target for child molesters.

Oh and Fass, if you don't respect me because you think I'm a "Moronic Emo Kid", why are you even posting on this thread? You're certainly not posting your opinion, and your certainly not trying to help me.

Fass is posting his opinion, and I tohught you didn't want us to try and help you?

You do realize where I live, right? I live near Los Angeles. Crime capital of the world. Sure, it may mostly be gangster activity, but the Amber Alert isn't exactly that effective.
Please. DC and Detroit have been fighting for that title far longer than L.A. Besides, if it's really that dangerous, and you're scared, then it would seem that living is something you want to hold on to. Problem solved -- go on a public transport adventure to a place you've researched that can help you. The journey may, in fact, be exhilarating. Just don't look anyone else on the bus or Metro in the eye for more than a second. Sounds like fun!

Actually, I thought that up on my own. Didn't even know there was that motto...

Yeah, right. The only thing more stupid than falling for that, is to continue to indulge you. I stop now.

Oh, please. Your "poetry" wasn't even original. I can google, you know, and see exactly where you stole such little titbits as "So unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside Are nothing compared to those on the inside" which is almost verbatim from "self injury is a way to cope, so unless you have lived my life hush, because the scars on the outside aren't as many as the scars on the inside," the emo motto all 13 year old emo girls have on their blogs.
Too-bleeding-shay! Great catch.

No no no no no! What I am implying is a thirteen year old boy alone on public transit is a juicy target for child molesters.

I was under the impression that 'snatch and grab' child molesters were in the minority(of child molesters). Most, or so I was lead to believe, spend months and years earning the child's and family's trust. As some smart guy said, you can only be betrayed by the people you trust.

Fass is posting his opinion, and I tohught you didn't want us to try and help you?
Unless you have also been through similar experiences as mine, I do not wish your help. But since everyone else is screaming at me to get help, I simply wondered why Fass wasn't doing the same.

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No no no no no! What I am implying is a thirteen year old boy alone on public transit is a juicy target for child molesters.

Well, judging from the way you describe your life in general, it doesn't get much worse now can it? You'd get a lot of sympathy.

Yeah, right. The only thing more stupid than falling for that, is to continue to indulge you. I stop now.
Thank you.

Oh and Fass, if you don't respect me because you think I'm a "Moronic Emo Kid", why are you even posting on this thread? You're certainly not posting your opinion, and your certainly not trying to help me.
Actually, the ONLY thing he's posted is his opinion. Ever read the definition of that word, or are you just scared he's right?

Well, judging from the way you describe your life in general, it doesn't get much worse now can it? You'd get a lot of sympathy.
Yes, but the thing is, I'd perfer a quick death. Not one involving being molested then slowly killed.

Actually, I thought that up on my own. Didn't even know there was that motto...


No no no no no! What I am implying is a thirteen year old boy alone on public transit is a juicy target for child molesters.

What? Oh thats it, you're obviously not trying to get help, because thats a goddamn idiotic thing to say. Hey, thanks for wasting my time and making me think you needed help. Go to hell and stop mimicking the problems some people actually have.

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Unless you live in a warzone, I fail to see the problem. They're called Bus Conductors, not Bus Abductors...
I think he has simple laungage (I have them too;) ) problems, like when he used to captitalise every letter n the Ritlina days.

Actually, the ONLY thing he's posted is his opinion. Ever read the definition of that word, or are you just scared he's right?
Is he posting his opinion on self-abuse, or his opinion of me?

Unless you have also been through similar experiences as mine, I do not wish your help. But since everyone else is screaming at me to get help, I simply wondered why Fass wasn't doing the same.

Why not? Only accepting help from people who have been in your situation, more or less, limits hugely the number of people who you'll let help you.

No no no no no! What I am implying is a thirteen year old boy alone on public transit is a juicy target for child molesters.
Okay, now you're just makin' stuff up. Molestation gets airtime because it's shocking -- the airtime causes people to believe the problem is rampant. Get on the damned bus and stop making excuses. If opinions are what you seek, here's one:

You posted here to search for excuses and hone your denial and deflection skills.

Actually, yes I have. Religion may help with the coping, but I will constantly be reminded that it's all false.
It isn't false. You don't have to be an insane right winger to believe in God.

What? Oh thats it, you're obviously not trying to get help, because thats a goddamn idiotic thing to say. Hey, thanks for wasting my time and making me think you needed help. Go to hell and stop mimicking the problems some people actually have.
What's an idiotic thing to say? The part about the so called "stolen motto", or the part about the child molesters?

Well, judging from the way you describe your life in general, it doesn't get much worse now can it? You'd get a lot of sympathy.
Very good point. Sick logic, but good point.

Yes, but the thing is, I'd perfer a quick death. Not one involving being molested then slowly killed.
Okay, you've been reading too much gore fiction. That shit doesn't happen on anything approaching the regular basis you seem to imagine. You're really reaching for deflections now.

Yes, but the thing is, I'd perfer a quick death. Not one involving being molested then slowly killed.
If I got you and I was a child molester I'd probably kill myself...:(

If I got you and I was a child molester I'd probably kill myself...:(
Creepy...

Is he posting his opinion on self-abuse, or his opinion of me?
Since you're such a proponent of the former, the latter seems fair.

I used to do it, but never heavily. Fortunately, I'm in a better place now.
I reiterate the other posters' statements of get help. If you have a chemical imbalance of some sort, they are easily corrected.

Yes, Intalegon. It was certainly a good idea to delete that post. I could see the flames coming from a mile away. And dude, seriously, maybe you should live near Los Angeles. You'd be suprised by the amount of crime. It's not all just fluff either.

Yes, but the thing is, I'd perfer a quick death. Not one involving being molested then slowly killed.
Good point. Have you tried googling "self abuse cutter video conference club sharing" or something like that? If you want to go social on the cutting, that is.

What's an idiotic thing to say? The part about the so called "stolen motto", or the part about the child molesters?
I'm going with "yes".

... Sick logic...
Sick but Sound, that's my motto.

Unless you have lived my life, hush. For the scars on the outside are nothing compared to the scars on the inside. The problems in my life are numerous, and cutting is the only real way to get away from it all.
Why not just smoke weed?

Good point. Have you tried googling "self abuse cutter video conference club sharing" or something like that? If you want to go social on the cutting, that is.
Ugh, god damnit. I never wanted to go social with this, asking people to help me. I simply asked for peoples opinions on self-abuse. Maybe I should get a moderator to close this thread... Mods? Anyone? Please close this. In fact, delete this so it may never be seen again.

Yes, Intalegon. It was certainly a good idea to delete that post. I could see the flames coming from a mile away. And dude, seriously, maybe you should live near Los Angeles. You'd be suprised by the amount of crime. It's not all just fluff either.
Crime in large cities is a matter of common sense. Don't be where it's not safe to be when it's not safe to be there. If you must travel through known risk areas, keep moving. Jesus, you'd think kids never took the Subways in London, Moscow or New York. Get a grip.

And listen, jackass, READ who posts and GET IT RIGHT. IFREANN deleted his/her post, not me.

Yes, Intalegon. It was certainly a good idea to delete that post. I could see the flames coming from a mile away. And dude, seriously, maybe you should live near Los Angeles. You'd be suprised by the amount of crime. It's not all just fluff either.
I want you to think for a minute. Where do you want to be in ten years? Serously, you will get out of your situation. All you gotta do is hope for a better tommorow. Someday you'll look back and realize it was a stupid thing for you to do.

Sick but Sound, that's my motto.
And a fine motto it is!

I have posted an offical request of deletion of this thread in the moderation section. Expect imminite deletion of this thread.

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?

ive punched walls and rocks before but ive never deliberately cut myself. that was more out of frustration than anything else though.

Ha ha ha... Pitiful. Emos only cut themselves for attention, or because their girlfriends/boyfriends broke up with them. Real cutters cut themselves because of the joy it brings.

surely cutting yourself and then telling everyone about it is attention seeking?

Ahh, such a taboo topic.

~~SNIP~~


And for good reason too!! I do not believe that threads should be started that propose the glorification of self abuse.

Crime in large cities is a matter of common sense. Don't be where it's not safe to be when it's not safe to be there. If you must travel through known risk areas, keep moving. Jesus, you'd think kids never took the Subways in London, Moscow or New York. Get a grip.

And listen, jackass, READ who posts and GET IT RIGHT. IFREANN deleted his/her post, not me.
Oh. Sorry. I could swear it was you.

Ugh, god damnit. I never wanted to go social with this, asking people to help me. I simply asked for peoples opinions on self-abuse. Maybe I should get a moderator to close this thread... Mods? Anyone? Please close this. In fact, delete this so it may never be seen again.
Okay, that's it. You're completely full of shit.

This whole thread you've been basically begging for the attention you got. If you didn't want to be singled out as a cutter, then WHY THE HELL MENTION YOU WERE one? Obviously, for the attention. Why not use the third person or relate your story using an invented acquaintance? You've exhausted what good faith I had left.

Ready the catapults!

Oh. Sorry. I could swear it was you.
"Swear"? Jeez, all it took was actually looking at the name on the post. How are we supposed to respect you when you won't respect us?

Okay, that's it. You're completely full of shit.

This whole thread you've been basically begging for the attention you got. If you didn't want to be singled out as a cutter, then WHY THE HELL MENTION YOU WERE one? Obviously, for the attention. Why not use the third person or relate your story using an invented acquaintance? You've exhausted what good faith I had left.

Ready the catapults!
I didn't think the mentioning of my self-abuse would spark such a fire. I never wanted attention. I just wanted peoples opinions on Self-Abuse. And where are the god damned mods to delete this god damned thread?

I have posted an offical request of deletion of this thread in the moderation section. Expect imminite deletion of this thread.
Can you please just consider what's been said? It might help you.

I didn't think the mentioning of my self-abuse would spark such a fire. I never wanted attention. I just wanted peoples opinions on Self-Abuse. And where are the god damned mods to delete this god damned thread?
Will you go and cut yourself a bit once the thread closes?

Will you go and cut yourself a bit once the thread closes?
Possibly. It depends. Is my life chaotic right now? Yes it is actually. Oh, and I just noticed. None of the mods are on. I'm just going to stay with my Black Sheep Child until it dies.

Quagmus = Quaon. It's far too obvious my friend.

I didn't think the mentioning of my self-abuse would spark such a fire. I never wanted attention. I just wanted peoples opinions on Self-Abuse. And where are the god damned mods to delete this god damned thread?

The mods aren't the speediest of people. They have superpowers to carry around with them, it slows them down. ;)

Possibly. It depends. Is my life chaotic right now? Yes it is actually. Oh, and I just noticed. None of the mods are on. I'm just going to stay with my Black Sheep Child until it dies.

It would die and awful lot quicker if you just ignored it...

Quagmus = Quaon. It's far too obvious my friend.

:p

Well, I've heard masturbation refered to as "self-abuse" in various Christian fundamentalist websites I've had the misfortune of stumbling upon.

Quagmus = Quaon. It's far too obvious my friend.
:confused:
Whiskey tango foxtrot, over?

It would die and awful lot quicker if you just ignored it...
By "Dieing" I don't mean it not getting posts, I mean it getting deleted by the mods.

:confused:
Whiskey tango foxtrot, over?
They're the same person, my good friend.

Well, I've heard masturbation refered to as "self-abuse" in various Christian fundamentalist websites I've had the misfortune of stumbling upon.

Woot, masturbation!
[hijack] I'm telling ya, masturbation would solve all problems.

Quagmus = Quaon. It's far too obvious my friend.
Serously, I'm not him. For one, you can't have two accounts logged on at the same time.

:confused:
Whiskey tango foxtrot, over?

Yes please!

Ahh, such a taboo topic. Anyways, what are your feelings on self-abuse? Self-abuse is the act of physically harming yourself. Personally, I do perform self-abuse myself. It's a reprival from the pain of my mind. You'd think it would hurt, but it really doesn't. When the knife breaks the skin, and you begin to bleed, it's just so, so, peaceful. So wonderfully peaceful. It's like the world around you just goes away, and it's just you. It's just so peaceful. And to those who say self-abuse is retarded, wrong, etc., I ask you. Have you ever performed it?
bleh, i wouldn't cut myself because its... just... nasty. i'm not one for pain, really - big wuss.

but i do bite myself. that's my "self-harm" thing... a level of pain i find acceptable. i do it when i'm angry - usually my thumb-muscle of my clenched right fist - to stop lashing out at people. the pain seems to nullify the anger and makes it go away. its a good thing really, though people hate to see me do it and i do have a seemingly permament scar and bruise on my hand from it now. meh.
i also occasionall punch walls/desks etc, but that's more normal.

They're the same person, my good friend.
Really, we aren't. It's just similar names is all. Anyway, as I said, you can't be logged onto two accounts at once. Anyway, please read my telegram.

They're the same person, my good friend.

I think the little confused looking purple man implied that I don't think so. Considering one has about 500 posts, he's unlikely to be a puppet. Also, they haven't been saying similar things. Actually the only similarity is the name.

Serously, I'm not him. For one, you can't have two accounts logged on at the same time.
Not even if you've got two computers. No vai!

Not even if you've got two computers. No vai!
Anyway, Quagmus is bigger than me, but has less posts. If we were the same person, wouldn't Quaon be the puppet?

Woot, masturbation!
[hijack] I'm telling ya, masturbation would solve all problems.

amen to that you can even go to the sperm bank and have anonymous offspring how cool is that!

amen to that you can even go to the sperm bank and have anonymous offspring how cool is that!
Wow, way to derail a topic.

Anyway, Quagmus is bigger than me, but has less posts. If we were the same person, wouldn't Quaon be the puppet?
No, Quagmus would, obviously.

amen to that you can even go to the sperm bank and have anonymous offspring how cool is that!

What's better is you get money. If only there was a sperm bank near me. I'd keep them well supplied. :fluffle:

No, Quagmus would, obviously.
Yes, but your population is bigger than mine. Obvously I would be the puppet then, especially since our nation stats are similar.

I do preform it as well but I don't agree with it. Does that make sense?:confused:

*ignores all the ignorant people who bashing self-harmers again so he can try to help people*

if you are self-harming, this website might help: http://www.statik.tk. click the "Self-harm snd suicide" link (if you can't use the menu, scroll down to click a link to an alternative menu).

Peace

I do preform it as well but I don't agree with it. Does that make sense?:confused:
Actually, yeah. It's like being addicted to cigarettes but wanting to quit.

*ignores all the ignorant people who bashing self-harmers again so he can try to help people*

again, if you are self-harming, this website might help: http://www.statik.tk. click the "Self-harm snd suicide" link (if you can't use the menu, scroll down to click a link to an alternative menu).

Peace
Are you a boyscout?

Are you a boyscout?

No. I'm human.

No. I'm human.
Lol. I wonder where the OP went.

I didn't think the mentioning of my self-abuse would spark such a fire. I never wanted attention. I just wanted peoples opinions on Self-Abuse. And where are the god damned mods to delete this god damned thread?

Stop there, and you've got it.

You honestly didn't think that mentioning that you were the subject of the self abuse wouldn't arouse (an at first) sympathy and a desire to help, AND a gallery of "get help or shut up"s?!? Now I KNOW you're self-delusional.

No. I'm human.

*whisper* He's lying, he's actually from Mars *nods*

No. I'm human.

You say it as if the rest of us aren't.

*ignores all the ignorant people who bashing self-harmers again so he can try to help people*

if you are self-harming, this website might help: http://www.statik.tk. click the "Self-harm snd suicide" link (if you can't use the menu, scroll down to click a link to an alternative menu).

Peace
Sorry, it ain't bashing if he earns it.

Lol. I wonder where the OP went.
Why, cutting herself of course.

Why, cutting herself of course.I think it's a he.

Why, cutting herself of course.
Him. And this thread hasn't been deleted, so I'm still watching it.

Him. And this thread hasn't been deleted, so I'm still watching it.
Did you read my telegram?

Did you read my telegram?
Yeppers.

Yeppers.
Please, consider what I've said.

I used to injure myself. It used to be the only way I could get rid of my stress, because of various factors. I stopped about a year ago, when I moved out.

My personal opinion on it is that some people harm themselves for the same reason as some teens become anorexic - they're attempting to exert whatever control they can over their lives because they feel helpless, like their life isn't their own. It's the same reason that some people turn to drinking, drugs or smoking in their teenage years.

Personally, I've done it all except for being anorexic. Growing up gay in a small, religious town where the only other gay people are more interested in sex than an actual relationship isn't very conducive to mental health. Fortunately, I've moved out of that hellhole, and I'm feeling much better.

EDIT, in bold:

The only time that I cut was when I felt worthless - like I wasn't even human. Cutting myself brought me pleasure because it made the physical feel like the mental. Despite what people say ('ZOMGGG U CUT 4 ATENSHUN LOLZ!!1!1!'), I always hid the wounds I inflicted upon myself. If I was seeking attention, please, explain that if you can.

And with regards to people ignorantly spouting opinions about things that they have no idea about, I've punched a few in the mouth for it. I find that that is a rare, yet incredibly relaxing way to relieve stress.

I used to injure myself. It used to be the only way I could get rid of my stress, because of various factors. I stopped about a year ago, when I moved out.

My personal opinion on it is that some people harm themselves for the same reason as some teens become anorexic - they're attempting to exert whatever control they can over their lives because they feel helpless, like their life isn't their own. It's the same reason that some people turn to drinking, drugs or smoking in their teenage years.

Personally, I've done it all except for being anorexic. Growing up gay in a small, religious town where the only other gay people are more interested in sex than an actual relationship isn't very conducive to mental health. Fortunately, I've moved out of that hellhole, and I'm feeling much better.

When I cut, I felt worthless - like I wasn't even human. Cutting myself brought me pleasure because it made the physical feel like the mental. Despite what people say ('ZOMGGG U CUT 4 ATENSHUN LOLZ!!1!1!'), I always hid the wounds I inflicted upon myself. If I was seeking attention, please, explain that if you can.

And with regards to people ignorantly spouting opinions about things that they have no idea about, I've punched a few in the mouth for it. I find that that is a rare, yet incredibly relaxing way to relieve stress.Interesting insights. Not saying I agree with it, but interesting.

Woah, glad to hear that you are feeling better now you have left those close minded people behind, I hope everything works out well for everyone who is or has felt depressed.

Woah, glad to hear that you are feeling better now you have left those close minded people behind, I hope everything works out well for everyone who is or has felt depressed.
We're close minded for trying to tell the guy to get proffesional help before he hurts himself? Wow, that's screwed up.

We're close minded for trying to tell the guy to get proffesional help before he hurts himself? Wow, that's screwed up.

I'm uncertain but I think that poster was referring to my post, instead of any of your posts. It makes sense, in context.

... I'm not sure I really have to say anything else.

I'm uncertain but I think that poster was referring to my post, instead of any of your posts. It makes sense, in context.

... I'm not sure I really have to say anything else.
Oh, that makes sense.

Am I the only one disappointed that this thread isn't about masturbation?
ummm I guess so but I wasn't thinking that's what it was about...

So.. you don't like counselors, teachers, classmates, friends, or priests. And you're a self-declared "atheist." Sounds like you can't accept help from anyone but yourself. The problem is the only help you're offering yourself is cutting. In this case, think of yourself as a friend (because you've been very adamant that you have no others.). Would it still be ok if a friend was abusing you? Would you still want to be this person's friend, if you kept pleading with him for help and he kept convincing you that the only way was for him to abuse you?

In this case, you need to find a new friend. I know it sounds corny.. but from what you've told us, cutting is your only friend. It's your solution to everything... no, i wouldn't be good at sports. i'll just cut. no, a counselor wouldn't help. i'll just cut. no, meditation wouldn't help. i'll just cut. no, spirituality couldn't solve my problems... i'll just cut. It seems hard... but do you want to grow up and be an adult someday? Maybe even be happy? Cutting will only hold you back. You're wasting time. Find something, or someone, that makes you happy (self-injury does not cut it in the long run, i don't care what you think. no pun intended) - nothing could be more important.

World-hunger is really shitty, but there are thousands of kids dying - just in the US - every year, at their own hands, and you can't just give them food to cure their illness.

So.. you don't like counselors, teachers, classmates, friends, or priests. And you're a self-declared "atheist." Sounds like you can't accept help from anyone but yourself. The problem is the only help you're offering yourself is cutting. In this case, think of yourself as a friend (because you've been very adamant that you have no others.). Would it still be ok if a friend was abusing you? Would you still want to be this person's friend, if you kept pleading with him for help and he kept convincing you that the only way was for him to abuse you?

In this case, you need to find a new friend. I know it sounds corny.. but from what you've told us, cutting is your only friend. It's your solution to everything... no, i wouldn't be good at sports. i'll just cut. no, a counselor wouldn't help. i'll just cut. no, meditation wouldn't help. i'll just cut. no, spirituality couldn't solve my problems... i'll just cut. It seems hard... but do you want to grow up and be an adult someday? Maybe even be happy? Cutting will only hold you back. You're wasting time. Find something, or someone, that makes you happy (self-injury does not cut it in the long run, i don't care what you think. no pun intended) - nothing could be more important.

World-hunger is really shitty, but there are thousands of kids dying - just in the US - every year, at their own hands, and you can't just give them food to cure their illness.I second this.

Him. And this thread hasn't been deleted, so I'm still watching it.
Which can only mean you crave the attention.

By the way, your signature is incredibly racist. Don't worry, it's not like you could lose any more respect in here.