NationStates Jolt Archive

And this means what?

When was the last time you had an option other then "Made In China"

Is that because we like it or it's simply the only option made available?

My point, which was clearly lost, is that without American business China's economy would be in shambles.

Hahahahaha America (as a nation) beating almost any other intellectually is laughable, and you lost so badly in Vietnam that you ran back with your tail between your legs.

And China beats the crap out of you economically too.
All Americans are stupid. Yeah, that's why all the major innovations in technology come from America.

China? Their GDP is still smaller, and so is their per capita. nuff said.

And Vietnam? Well, that was a fucked up war in a fucked up country, no one's gonna deny that. But it was a calculated withdrawal. In 69, there 550,000 US soldiers in 'Nam. Four years later, there were still Americans in nam. Not a whole lot, but they were there.

All Americans are stupid. Yeah, that's why all the major innovations in technology come from America.

China? Their GDP is still smaller, and so is their per capita. nuff said.

And Vietnam? Well, that was a fucked up war in a fucked up country, no one's gonna deny that. But it was a calculated withdrawal. In 69, there 550,000 US soldiers in 'Nam. Four years later, there were still Americans in nam. Not a whole lot, but they were there.

*smacks head* I didn't say that Americans were fucking stupid! I said that compared to other countries, quite a lot of its citizens aren't particularly enlightened (not in a Buddhist sense, more in a "knowledge of the general earth" sense).

Also, all of the major innovations in technology came from the Arab world, they were then stolen by the crusaders and slowly worked upon by people in Europe and you took some of that knowledge with you. America also invented under half of what it claims to have, most of its 'own' inventions came from West Germany/Britain.

Yes, you invented condensed milk. Nice one. If you're astonishingly poor, you can put it on pies instead of cream. Well played.

Also, it was hardly a calculated withdrawl from Vietnam. You took most of those troops out in 70 and 71, there were very, very few troops left by late 1972 and almost none by 1973.

China's growth is amazingly high, in ten years the USA will be completely outstripped. Economics should look to the future, not to the present :)

*smacks head* I didn't say that Americans were fucking stupid! I said that compared to other countries, quite a lot of its citizens aren't particularly enlightened (not in a Buddhist sense, more in a "knowledge of the general earth" sense).

Also, all of the major innovations in technology came from the Arab world, they were then stolen by the crusaders and slowly worked upon by people in Europe and you took some of that knowledge with you. America also invented under half of what it claims to have, most of its 'own' inventions came from West Germany/Britain.

Yes, you invented condensed milk. Nice one. If you're astonishingly poor, you can put it on pies instead of cream. Well played.

Also, it was hardly a calculated withdrawl from Vietnam. You took most of those troops out in 70 and 71, there were very, very few troops left by late 1972 and almost none by 1973.

China's growth is amazingly high, in ten years the USA will be completely outstripped. Economics should look to the future, not to the present :)
I'm talking about modern inventions here. Computers, cars, lightbulbs, and such. I realize you didn't mean that all Americans ar stupid, and we have our share of rednecks, but you can hardly blame someone if they live in the middle of nowhere in...kentucky or some place.

The fact that it took us two full years to withdraw most of our soldiers from Vietnem makes it a calculated withdrawal. A cut and run scenario would take something like a few weeks to a few months, at the most.

China's growth will stabilize, and economics does need to at least take account of the present.

Dutch people don't need to prove themselves, but why do Americans need to? Is it part of your penis enlargement?

Yes, our president is an idiot who would conquer the entire world given the chance, but America bashing in general is really starting to make me mad. For one, Bush does not represent us, as he cheated to win the election twice. Also, check his approval rating. 30%. That's the lowest since Nixon. And, more, most of the Europeans posting negative things about us wouldn't even be here if we didn't exist. Great Britian would not have beaten the Nazis alone. I hate our government, but bashing America is really ungrateful and ignoring the facts.

1) People hate a corrupt president but either don't care enough or are too afraid to do something about it. What does that say about that country? If America is so great, then how is it possible that the antichrist became president of the US?

EDIT: Of course, if Europeans should thank the US, then the US should thank Adolf Hitler for teaching their politicians a thing or two about using mass media for propaganda. ==> If Americans are free and all that, then why do they keep repeating the same slogans about their freedom, powerful army, and whatever... over and over again?!

2) The US didn't care about Europe until Pearl Harbor. That's understandable: why should a country spill the blood of its citizens for some far-away foreigners? Then again, why should an act of self-preservation deserve merit? Still: why should I thank the grandchildren for what the grandparents have done? Is the America of today the same as in the mid-20th century?

In the Netherlands, we have a great multiple-party system. It's hard to make decisions, of course, but at least power is also very hard to abuse. And politicians are forced to debate hard about the content. Also, Dutch politicians truly believe in what they stand for, because even our prime minister has less on his paycheck than a 747-captain. And our debates are not superficial, as Dutch people love to complain and criticize.
So America is the country of greatness, glory, perfection, haleluja, such-and-such? The Netherlands are a country of common sense. Dutch people don't need to prove themselves, but why do Americans need to? Is it part of your penis enlargement?

1) People hate a corrupt president but either don't care enough or are too afraid to do something about it. What does that say about that country? If America is so great, then how is it possible that the antichrist became president of the US?

Not the american way. Since there is an automatic end to the career it's easier to wait it out rather then fight in the streets. Two more years and this guy is gone.

Now if people were losing jobs on a massive scale, then it would be different.


EDIT: Of course, if Europeans should thank the US, then the US should thank Adolf Hitler for teaching their politicians a thing or two about using mass media for propaganda. ==> If Americans are free and all that, then why do they keep repeating the same slogans about their freedom, powerful army, and whatever... over and over again?!


Actually that would be Gobbels that would have to be thanked.


2) The US didn't care about Europe until Pearl Harbor. That's understandable: why should a country spill the blood of its citizens for some far-away foreigners? Then again, why should an act of self-preservation deserve merit? Still: why should I thank the grandchildren for what the grandparents have done? Is the America of today the same as in the mid-20th century?

Well you have to study the periods of American Isolationism to understand that.

There were people that knew what was coming and wanted to get involved.
There were people that thought it would be sorted out quick.
There were people that didn't want to be involved.
Mostly we couldn't do too much as we were coming out of the depression. Our armed forces were not that big nor were they well equiped.

It's a little more then "caring"

You don't have to thank the grandchildren but you shouldn't dismiss the sacrifices of the grandparents either.

Luckily those people are respected still. On my trip to France, I saw a Parisian taking the "another American tourist" attitude with an old man and his wife. He then became nice after seeing a cap he had on his bags. He was a D-Day veteran.

Is it part of your penis enlargement?

You bring that up again. Do you have a secret to confess? ;)

I could see that with the British Empire, White Man's Burden and all. Of course it matters that the US claims to be about freedom more than other countries precisely because actions matter more than words. When the rest of the world hears Freedom and Democracy sound bites over and over yet news of incidents in the Abu Ghraib scale of cruelty continue to emerge, it disillusions many people to the ideals and principles of Freedom and Democracy that keep getting spouted.

Ah, ye olde Orwellian principle of doublethink! The principle of cognitive dissonance reduction! The semi-automatic, self-imposed distortion of the truth to be able to cope with the world (EDIT: and oneself).
Any great nation's stability depends on these principles. Hurray :headbang: for patriotism!!

Not the american way. What, Bush doesn't have an American nationality, is legally backed by non-Americans, and the procedure that got him in the White House twice, wasn't American? From Zherplaghastan, then?

What, Bush doesn't have an American nationality, is legally backed by non-Americans, and the procedure that got him in the White House twice, wasn't American? From Zherplaghastan, then?

Wow you read all that from one line?

I smell a puppet here. One from North Carolina. Who has the odour of prunes about him.

Wow you read all that from one line?
*SIGH* Okay. I'll keep it simple: what do you mean by "Not the American way?"

I smell a puppet here. One from North Carolina. Who has the odour of prunes about him.
*STARES BLANKLY* ...what's a 'puppet' (within this context, of course)?

I smell a puppet here. One from North Carolina. Who has the odour of prunes about him.

You might be right.