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Arguments with MustaphaMod516, to prevent further hijacking

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Pythogria
01-04-2006, 08:41
OK, Mustapha, and anyone else who wants to participate in me and Mustapha's various arguments, post here.
Kryozerkia
01-04-2006, 15:19
Oh what? Now we're giving threads to people who can't tell left from right? :rolleyes:
Corneliu
01-04-2006, 16:04
Oh what? Now we're giving threads to people who can't tell left from right? :rolleyes:

Why not? It'll be a very funny thread. Maybe Archival material if Mustapha has the guts to show up.
Pythogria
01-04-2006, 20:45
Well, Mustapha, this proves a couple things.
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:25
I see Pythogria cannot stand me down under his puppet nation UNA but feels more powerful in this incarnation
The Tribes Of Longton
01-04-2006, 23:26
I must have missed this.

What?
Eutrusca
01-04-2006, 23:27
Oh what? Now we're giving threads to people who can't tell left from right? :rolleyes:
... or up from down, or right from wrong, or fact from fiction! :D
Thriceaddict
01-04-2006, 23:29
... or up from down, or right from wrong, or fact from fiction! :D
Nothing like a bit of projection, eh? :D
Mariehamn
01-04-2006, 23:30
Bush is a Communist. He's attempting to spread the proliterat's revolution through democracy.
The Tribes Of Longton
01-04-2006, 23:31
No seriously, what?

Is this a special kind of n00b or something? Does he have magical powers?
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:32
I must have missed this.

What?
He has to keep changing faces to face me--but he will never defeat those who know in the not too distant future Peace Justice and Universal Love will Reign Supreme and Forever live on in the Hearts of Humanity
Mariehamn
01-04-2006, 23:33
Does he have magical powers?
Nah, he was just dipped in some river as a young child and he's got this ring that makes him disappear.
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:34
No seriously, what?

Is this a special kind of n00b or something? Does he have magical powers?
we ALL do Brother Long
its just a matter of access
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:35
Nothing like a bit of projection, eh? :D
Forgive him Father for he knows not what he says
Eutrusca
01-04-2006, 23:35
Nothing like a bit of projection, eh? :D
Ha! As if! :p
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:36
Bush is a Communist. He's attempting to spread the proliterat's revolution through democracy.
Bush is a Corporate Communist but Democracy is his MOrtal Enemy
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:37
Nah, he was just dipped in some river as a young child and he's got this ring that makes him disappear.
I DO have a Ring but I got it on the Ponte Vecchio
Eutrusca
01-04-2006, 23:38
I DO have a Ring but I got it on the Ponte Vecchio
Pffft! If it ain't a decoder ring, it ain't shit! LOL!
Ginnoria
01-04-2006, 23:38
I DO have a Ring but I got it on the Ponte Vecchio
Are you sure it's not a secret socialist decoder ring you found in a cereal box?

EDIT: beat me to the decoder joke by seconds ...
Kyronea
01-04-2006, 23:39
Bush is a Corporate Communist but Democracy is his MOrtal Enemy
Romulan Os, you at least tried to debate before, but now you're just being dumb. ~_~
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:39
Ha! As if! :p
Rejoice Eut-you ARE Forgiven as of this Day. Welcome to your new Life
The Infinite Dunes
01-04-2006, 23:40
*eyes MM516* You'd better not shame that name you plagiarised from Huxley's book.
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:40
Pffft! If it ain't a decoder ring, it ain't shit! LOL!
it is the Eye of God
MustaphaMond516
01-04-2006, 23:41
*eyes MM516* You'd better not shame that name you plagiarised from Huxley's book.
Im trying to be Cynical but from a Utopian perspective
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 00:12
it is the Eye of God

Now this is blasphemy. I suggest that you ask God to forgive you.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 00:25
Now this is blasphemy. I suggest that you ask God to forgive you.
but I just got back from Confession
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 00:31
but I just got back from Confession

Then you might want to go back. Now I also know what religion you are.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:05
He has to keep changing faces to face me--but he will never defeat those who know in the not too distant future Peace Justice and Universal Love will Reign Supreme and Forever live on in the Hearts of Humanity

Prove that I am his puppet. As the person who accused me, it is your job to prove it.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:06
I see Pythogria cannot stand me down under his puppet nation UNA but feels more powerful in this incarnation

Again, prove I am a puppet.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:06
Mustapha, the Senate will not change hands. I just do not see it happening.

Heck, I do not see the House switching hands either.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:13
This is a bunch of jibberish about decoder rings and puppets.

What the hell is going on?
The Tribes Of Longton
02-04-2006, 01:13
Thankyou TID for reminding me of where the name comes from. I couldn't think.

Also, lol @ Brother Long :D
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:14
Mustapha, the Senate will not change hands. I just do not see it happening.

Heck, I do not see the House switching hands either.
you dont see alot of things-but remembere these words
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:16
Again, prove I am a puppet.
your never online as the same time as yourself;)
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:17
This is a bunch of jibberish about decoder rings and puppets.

What the hell is going on?
UNA is attacking me from one of his thousands of puppets on NS
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:17
you dont see alot of things-but remembere these words

Oh I see alot Mustapha. It is you that doesn't see alot. You only see what the left wants you to see. At least I'm more well-rounded :)

As I said! The House and Senate will not change hands.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:17
your never online as the same time as yourself;)

Prove that.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:19
Prove that.
if Im wrong then make the next post under your UN name
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:21
if Im wrong then make the next post under your UN name

I cannot, as I can not use that account (mainly because I do not have his password and using another person's account is against site rules.) Besides, this is not proof either. And what about that link?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:24
UNA is attacking me from one of his thousands of puppets on NS

And who are you?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:24
I cannot, as I can not use that account (mainly because I do not have his password and using another person's account is against site rules.) Besides, this is not proof either. And what about that link?
AHA you Cant because you cant be on two names at the same time;)

what link?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:25
AHA you Cant because you cant be on two names at the same time;)

what link?

1. Of course I can't. And I do have two, actually three, names. (Makai Corporation, Wonki, and Pythogria.)

2. The link on the "syndrome" you said I had involving me and UNA. The one where you said "I'm stil lwaiting for security clearance".
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:25
And who are you?
Mustaphamond516
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:28
you dont see alot of things-but remembere these words
Alas, the poor delusional conspiracy theorist has lost it, though one may wonder if he ever did indeed have it. After all, his lack of coherency in English should've be indicative of thus, but it went unnoticed until it was too late and now, behold, MM has lapsed and forgot to provide us with information that may shine light onto this madness in which he ebs out an existance...

Oh wait, this is as coherent as I've ever seen.

So, what are we to remember exactly?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:31
Mustaphamond516

So why is UN Abassadorship attacking you? And why does he have a puppet with 400 more posts than his original account actually has?
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:35
So why is UN Abassadorship attacking you? And why does he have a puppet with 400 more posts than his original account actually has?
Because it's a coverup. You see, the other account he got after hijacking it from the original owner. You see, UNA is really George Bush and he's out to get MM516 because MM516 has caught onto the massive government plot to educate people so that they can actually write coherent sentences. You know that Bush only acts that way as a farce? to conceal his subvert attack on the Democrats who seek to expose him with bad English...
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:35
Oh, and Mustapha, I can't be his puppet as me and him are online at the same time right now.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:36
Because it's a coverup. You see, the other account he got after hijacking it from the original owner. You see, UNA is really George Bush and he's out to get MM516 because MM516 has caught onto the massive government plot to educate people so that they can actually write coherent sentences. You know that Bush only acts that way as a farce? to conceal his subvert attack on the Democrats who seek to expose him with bad English...

HAHA!!! Oh I love this :D
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:37
Oh, and Mustapha, I can't be his puppet as me and him are online at the same time right now.
Sure you can! Just gotta to have two computers and a switch so you can change between computers and post at the same time! We all know you do that; after all, there is some insanity to his nonsensical delusions. :p
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:37
1. Of course I can't. And I do have two, actually three, names. (Makai Corporation, Wonki, and Pythogria.)

2. The link on the "syndrome" you said I had involving me and UNA. The one where you said "I'm stil lwaiting for security clearance".

http://www.deeptrancenow.com/index.htm
Multiple Personality disorder, or MPD, is a bizarre syndrome in which two or more distinct personalities inhabit a single body. People who suffer from this disorder , or "multiples", often have an awareness of their condition. They do not realize that control of their body is being passed back and forth between different personalities and instead feel they are suffering from some kind of amnesia, confusion, or black-out spells. Most multiples average between eight to thirteen personalities, although so-called super-multiples may have more than a hundred subpersonalities.

Allergies are not the only thing multiples can switch on and off. If there was any doubt as to the control of the unconscious mind has over drug effects, it is banished by the pharmacological wizardry of the multiple. By changing personalities, a multiple who is drunk can instantly become sober. Different personalities also respond differently to different drugs.

Often one or several of a multiple's personalities are children, and if an adult personality is given a drug and then a child's personality take over, the adult dosage may be too much for the child and result in an overdose. It is also difficult to anesthetize some multiples, and there are accounts of multiples waking up on the operating table after one of their "unanesthetizable" subpersonalities has taken over
Peechland
02-04-2006, 01:37
Who on earth is MustaphaMond516 and what the hell is this thread about?

What are they arguing about? Why is this on the front page? Is this about who has the cooler Nation name?
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:37
HAHA!!! Oh I love this :D
I can't help it. I want to flame him, but I don't want to get in trouble, so I've taken to mocking him.
Revnia
02-04-2006, 01:38
Nah, he was just dipped in some river as a young child and he's got this ring that makes him disappear.

Achillerodo
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:39
http://www.deeptrancenow.com/index.htm
Multiple Personality disorder, or MPD, is a bizarre syndrome in which two or more distinct personalities inhabit a single body. People who suffer from this disorder , or "multiples", often have an awareness of their condition. They do not realize that control of their body is being passed back and forth between different personalities and instead feel they are suffering from some kind of amnesia, confusion, or black-out spells. Most multiples average between eight to thirteen personalities, although so-called super-multiples may have more than a hundred subpersonalities.

Allergies are not the only thing multiples can switch on and off. If there was any doubt as to the control of the unconscious mind has over drug effects, it is banished by the pharmacological wizardry of the multiple. By changing personalities, a multiple who is drunk can instantly become sober. Different personalities also respond differently to different drugs.

Often one or several of a multiple's personalities are children, and if an adult personality is given a drug and then a child's personality take over, the adult dosage may be too much for the child and result in an overdose. It is also difficult to anesthetize some multiples, and there are accounts of multiples waking up on the operating table after one of their "unanesthetizable" subpersonalities has taken over


Hmm. However, seeing as I visit many people very often, I am sure I would know of my condition by now. Especially when I see a doctor.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:39
Because it's a coverup. You see, the other account he got after hijacking it from the original owner. You see, UNA is really George Bush and he's out to get MM516 because MM516 has caught onto the massive government plot to educate people so that they can actually write coherent sentences. You know that Bush only acts that way as a farce? to conceal his subvert attack on the Democrats who seek to expose him with bad English...

So considering that I am wandering through this thread without my tinhat right now, am I going to lose my ability to talk very good?


:eek:

Whats going on to me!?1
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:39
So why is UN Abassadorship attacking you? And why does he have a puppet with 400 more posts than his original account actually has?
he attackes me for the same reason why the forces of darkness attacjk the Light
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:39
Who on earth is MustaphaMond516 and what the hell is this thread about?

What are they arguing about? Why is this on the front page? Is this about who has the cooler Nation name?

This thread is to condense Mustapha's arguments into one place to prevent hijacking.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:40
he attackes me for the same reason why the forces of darkness attacjk the Light
Because the light burns? That light leads to a bitter place called death, so of course, the darkness will naturally fight it.
Peechland
02-04-2006, 01:41
This thread is to condense Mustapha's arguments into one place to prevent hijacking.

I got that part, since the title itself makes sense. But whats he arguing about? It's a bit unclear.
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 01:41
It's all about suppressing the wider reality, if I recall correctly.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:41
So considering that I am wandering through this thread without my tinhat right now, am I going to lose my ability to talk very good?


:eek:

Whats going on to me!?1
Nothing. You're immune. You see, the CIA is very good at controlled subvert operations and causing delusion in certain rabid conspiracy theorists. It would do too much for the cause of the theorists if they were all attacked at once.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:42
I got that part, since the title itself makes sense. But whats he arguing about? It's a bit unclear.

He's arguing about me being UNA's puppet and Bush conspiracy theories.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:42
Because it's a coverup. You see, the other account he got after hijacking it from the original owner. You see, UNA is really George Bush and he's out to get MM516 because MM516 has caught onto the massive government plot to educate people so that they can actually write coherent sentences. You know that Bush only acts that way as a farce? to conceal his subvert attack on the Democrats who seek to expose him with bad English...
actually there is a connection to the white house here but its not exactly as you state it here
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:43
I got that part, since the title itself makes sense. But whats he arguing about? It's a bit unclear.

He's arguing about everything. He really cannot string a coherent arguement together. Nor can he actually argue multiple arguements at the same time.

It really is quite funny :D
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:43
Oh, and Mustapha, I can't be his puppet as me and him are online at the same time right now.
prove it:)
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:44
prove it:)

Should you look in the Q&A with UNA topic right now, you will see the "Online" icon under both me and his posts.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:45
Sure you can! Just gotta to have two computers and a switch so you can change between computers and post at the same time! We all know you do that; after all, there is some insanity to his nonsensical delusions. :p
yes because POTUS the Leader of a World Superpower has only ONE computer??
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 01:45
Nor can he actually argue multiple arguements at the same time.

Whereas certain people present are incapable of making single arguments at one time. Nice glass house there.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:45
actually there is a connection to the white house here but its not exactly as you state it here
Why? Because it would exaplain the madness in which you shroud your mind in to justify your wild theories? Or did your tinhat stop working? Here, this one is fresh out of the White House, complete with CIA tracking devices that record your every move. They send it with their warmest regards.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:46
he attackes me for the same reason why the forces of darkness attacjk the Light

actually there is a connection to the white house here but its not exactly as you state it here

I see a common trend of poor grammar here for the same reason why you are incomprehensible here.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:46
Why? Because it would exaplain the madness in which you shroud your mind in to justify your wild theories? Or did your tinhat stop working? Here, this one is fresh out of the White House, complete with CIA tracking devices that record your every move. They send it with their warmest regards.

And a lifetime warrenty so you never have to worry about replacing it :D
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:46
Who on earth is MustaphaMond516 and what the hell is this thread about?

What are they arguing about? Why is this on the front page? Is this about who has the cooler Nation name?
its about people from the White House taking over NS in my absence
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:47
its about people from the White House taking over NS in my absence

OH GOD! This guy does sound like MKULTRA! :D
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:47
its about people from the White House taking over NS in my absence

Not responding to me, eh?
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:48
yes because POTUS the Leader of a World Superpower has only ONE computer??
Of course he could. After all, he was able to get into office without actually winning. It's all by... (*insert dramatic cheesey music*) divine will (The Angels begin to sing a chorus of Ave Maria).

You see, he says he has God's will, so, of course he COULD be using just one computer...
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:49
Of course he could. After all, he was able to get into office without actually winning. It's all by... (*insert dramatic cheesey music*) divine will (The Angels begin to sing a chorus of Ave Maria).

You see, he says he has God's will, so, of course he COULD be using just one computer...

Or none at all. If he is doing God's will, what makes you think he even needs a computer.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:49
Should you look in the Q&A with UNA topic right now, you will see the "Online" icon under both me and his posts.

Don't listen to him Mustapharama, he is on two computers.

He is probably hacking into Jolt Forums and NS to permanently ban your IP address as we speak.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:50
It's all about suppressing the wider reality, if I recall correctly.
theres NO WAY reality can be as mundane as people think it is-we're taught to repress the true nature of reality thru conditioning
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:50
its about people from the White House taking over NS in my absence
You know, it's no longer just the White House. It's going to become a global operation. The British House of Commons is also in on it and the Soviet KGB? You really think that they no longer exist? That's what they want you to think. They've become the eyes of the White House.

After all, the White House needs to project an image of purity, so they hire the people that trained in Soviet Gulags to track those who know too much and submit them into eternal silence. The only way out is to update your tinfoil hat once a week.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:51
Don't listen to him Mustapharama, he is on two computers.

He is probably hacking into Jolt Forums and NS to permanently ban your IP address as we speak.

Prove that.
If only I COULD ban him.
The Tribes Of Longton
02-04-2006, 01:51
Don't listen to him Mustapharama, he is on two computers.

He is probably hacking into Jolt Forums and NS to permanently ban your IP address as we speak.
Nah man, you've got it all wrong. Pythogria's camped on a rooftop nearby Mr. Mond, texting his responses from GPRS enabled phones whilst he lines up the headshot in his scope.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:51
Or none at all. If he is doing God's will, what makes you think he even needs a computer.
That's what they want us to believe, so we must. IF we look else where, they might also take us in.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:52
Prove that.
If only I COULD ban him.

You are just dripping with guilt. Everyone can tell.
Peechland
02-04-2006, 01:52
its about people from the White House taking over NS in my absence


So you work in the White House, Department of Internet Forum Protection and if you're out sick, they could possibly take over NS?
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:53
That's what they want us to believe, so we must. IF we look else where, they might also take us in.

I'm immune. My dad's in the military :D
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:53
Should you look in the Q&A with UNA topic right now, you will see the "Online" icon under both me and his posts.
funny how that thread started...
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:53
You are just dripping with guilt. Everyone can tell.

As no person can show emotion through cyberspace, you cannot confirm that I am feeling any particular emotion at this moment in time.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:54
Prove that.
He doesn't have too... he's got the best proof of all - heresy!
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:54
funny how that thread started...
So, no way to actually knock my argument down, eh?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:54
He doesn't have too... he's got the best proof of all - heresy!

Lol.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:54
I'm immune. My dad's in the military :D
Or so they want you to think. After all, this is all part of the conditioning process...
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:55
I see a common trend of poor grammar here for the same reason why you are incomprehensible here.
its called plausable deniablility
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:56
its called plausable deniablility

Define "plausable deniablility".
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:56
Or so they want you to think. After all, this is all part of the conditioning process...

Nah. I know its real that he's in the Service. I also know a few high ranking Generals. I'm protected :D
Peechland
02-04-2006, 01:56
its called plausable deniablility


Somebody's been watching Independence Day.....
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:56
As no person can show emotion through cyberspace, you cannot confirm that I am feeling any particular emotion at this moment in time.

Mustapha da showstoppa can tell.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:57
Of course he could. After all, he was able to get into office without actually winning. It's all by... (*insert dramatic cheesey music*) divine will (The Angels begin to sing a chorus of Ave Maria).

You see, he says he has God's will, so, of course he COULD be using just one computer...
and you dont think the Creator of ALL THAT IS cant be online too?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 01:57
Define "plausable deniablility".

If I don't make sense now, I don't have to make sense later.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:57
Mustapha da showstoppa can tell.

And how can he/she perform that action?
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 01:57
You are of course, correct about the nature of reality. And our conditioning.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:58
If I don't make sense now, I don't have to make sense later.

Well then that means that yo ucannot win an argument on that.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 01:58
Somebody's been watching Independence Day.....
Or... maybe Independance Day was watching him...
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 01:58
Don't listen to him Mustapharama, he is on two computers.

He is probably hacking into Jolt Forums and NS to permanently ban your IP address as we speak.
if anything happens to me I want you to sticky this
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 01:58
if anything happens to me I want you to sticky this

He isn't a moderator or admindistrator. Thus, he cannot.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 01:59
Or... maybe Independance Day was watching him...

*shifts his eyes before deciding if he wants to watch it now*
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:00
Well then that means that yo ucannot win an argument on that.

The only defense that can stand up to the irresistable force of UNA/you.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:01
if anything happens to me I want you to sticky this

You may already be dead and replaced by a bot. So I may never know if something happens to you.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:02
The only defense that can stand up to the irresistable force of UNA/you.

You cannot prove that.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:03
You are just dripping with guilt. Everyone can tell.
prove it is all hes got
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 02:04
*shifts his eyes before deciding if he wants to watch it now*
Yes, yes... be careful.

Remember... in Soviet Russia, movie watches you!
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:04
prove it is all hes got

You cannot win a debate without having proof. End of story.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:04
So you work in the White House, Department of Internet Forum Protection and if you're out sick, they could possibly take over NS?
theyve taken over your govt and the world now theyve come for us here--what good is owning everything unless you can be everywhere to keep it
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:05
prove it is all hes got

Prove It vs. Plausible Deniability

The irresistable force against the immovable object. Its a blessing to see titans of this magnitude duke it out.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 02:05
You cannot win a debate without having proof. End of story.
Sure he can. He's delusional, so by this logic, if you say he's losing, he's actually winning... so, he doesn't feel the need to actually substantiate his absurb declaration with petty impediments such as this trivial tripe called 'evidence'. :p
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:05
theyve taken over your govt and the world now theyve come for us here

You can't prove that either, can you?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:06
Sure he can. He's delusional, so by this logic, if you say he's losing, he's actually winning... so, he doesn't feel the need to actually substantiate his absurd declaration with petty impediments such as this trivial tripe called 'evidence'. :p
Lame excuse. No offense intended.
Well then, if his logic is like that, he is undeniably wrong, so I win.
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:07
theyve taken over your govt and the world now theyve come for us here


Who are "they"?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:07
I'm immune. My dad's in the military :D
p.r.o.j.e.c.t.i.o.n.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 02:08
theyve taken over your govt and the world now theyve come for us here--what good is owning everything unless you can be everywhere to keep it
Yes.. they are coming and they're going to do it with their ultimate cloning technique that uses stem cells... (why else would they outlaw it if they didn't want people to discover the true potential that lay within?)

With this technology, they are calling upon the greatest forces the world has ever cowered before. Conquest is within their reach as they lay waste to the sanity that has kept conspiracy theoriest edgy and out of touch with the sensual mother that is reality.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:09
Define "plausable deniablility".
they didnt teach you this in psy-ops 101?
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 02:09
Who are "they"?
*gasp* surely you jest. You must simply accept that these people are merely they and that is all you shall ever know. In fact, you know too much...
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:10
they didnt teach you this in psy-ops 101?

No, as it isn't a class.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:11
If I don't make sense now, I don't have to make sense later.
they try to frame the boundaries of what is real but not everyone excepts their frame job
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:12
*gasp* surely you jest. You must simply accept that these people are merely they and that is all you shall ever know. In fact, you know too much...

You are right my friend. I know way too much. I've lost enough brain cells to this thread....I better leave it now. Quickly.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:12
No, as it isn't a class.

The first rule of Psy-ops 101 is you don't talk about Psy-ops 101.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 02:12
p.r.o.j.e.c.t.i.o.n.

Yea my life is a hologram! I'm a hologram. Maybe we are all holograms. maybe none of us are actually real!
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:12
You are of course, correct about the nature of reality. And our conditioning.
Dobbs and Vittos can see thru the veal
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:12
Well, Musty has something here, even if he's unable to voice it in such a manner as most of us here would understand it. See here, Mustapha; some of us aren't as likely to get caught in anyone's undertow as you seem to think.
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 02:12
No, as it isn't a class.

Actually it is a class :D
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:13
they try to frame the boundaries of what is real but not everyone excepts their frame job
This is so darn funny! This will get put into ARchives! I just know it!
Reality is what exists in the universe. Period. That's it. If you can't prove something, it cannot be accepted as true.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 02:13
Dobbs and Vittos can see thru the veal
Wow... they can now make food transparent? What a world we live in!
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:13
Actually it is a class :D

Really? Well, then, I haven't taken it.
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:14
they try to frame the boundaries of what is real but not everyone excepts their frame job
It's their bread & butter. They're having an increasingly hard time figuring out ways to keep it that way, though.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:15
You may already be dead and replaced by a bot. So I may never know if something happens to you.
Ill give you a codeword
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:16
This is so darn funny! This will get put into ARchives! I just know it!
Reality is what exists in the universe. Period. That's it. If you can't prove something, it cannot be accepted as true.
But everything is illusory in any event, so a lack of proof is just as valid as proof.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:17
But everything is illusory in any event, so a lack of proof is just as valid as proof.

No, it is not, as proof means that we can trust you because we KNOW it is true. How can we be sure it is true if you can't give proof?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:18
Ill give you a codeword

How will I get it. They can intercept our communications.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:18
You can't prove that either, can you?
your all the proof I need;)
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:19
Who are "they"?
who they always were
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:19
No, it is not, as proof means that we can trust you because we KNOW it is true. How can we be sure it is true if you can't give proof?

Truth is only a matter of perception Pythogria. But how can we trust our perceptions when you control what we perceive?
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:20
who they always were


well I never knew, so you'll have to catch me up.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:20
your all the proof I need;)
I really can't stop laughing!
How is that?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:21
No, as it isn't a class.
of course it not;) ;) ;)
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:22
who they always were
This guy should become a comedian!
As I do not k now who they always were, you will have to tell me. I'm all ears!
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:22
of course it not;) ;) ;)
Fine, I apologize for my university ignorance. Been a while since I was there.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:22
Yea my life is a hologram! I'm a hologram. Maybe we are all holograms. maybe none of us are actually real!
thats the first time you ever thought outside of the box--they hate that
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:23
No, it is not, as proof means that we can trust you because we KNOW it is true. How can we be sure it is true if you can't give proof?
You either know it or you don't.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:23
thats the first time you ever thought outside of the box--they hate that

Actually, I don't hate unique thinking. I hate ignorance.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:23
well I never knew, so you'll have to catch me up.

When you grasp that your reality is not the true reality, you will know.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:24
Well, Musty has something here, even if he's unable to voice it in such a manner as most of us here would understand it. See here, Mustapha; some of us aren't as likely to get caught in anyone's undertow as you seem to think.
what Im saying goes beyond my capacity to express it which only makes it more authentically true
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:24
You either know it or you don't.
And without proof, we don't.
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:24
what Im saying goes beyond my capacity to express it which only makes it more authentically true
I quite understand that.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:25
what Im saying goes beyond my capacity to express it which only makes it more authentically true
Actually, it makes it false, as if it is innexpressable it cannot be comprehended.
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:25
And without proof, we don't.
well, you - singularly, anyway - don't. Some things don't require proof to know, inherently.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 02:26
Okay, got to go now. Expect me back in a few hours.
Have to stop laughing.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:26
No, it is not, as proof means that we can trust you because we KNOW it is true. How can we be sure it is true if you can't give proof?
no great miracles are ever accomplished thru proof
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:26
Actually, it makes it false, as if it is innexpressable it cannot be comprehended.
If you constrain your thought processes, I suppose.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:27
How will I get it. They can intercept our communications.
I know they can-here they can--but TG me and Ill tell you how
Revnia
02-04-2006, 02:28
Ok, I've been reading through this thread, and there are so many crazy ideas, many said in jest and many in sarcasm, that I can't actually separate the crazy ideas that people actually believe, wtf is being discussed and who believes in whatever is being discussed?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:28
well I never knew, so you'll have to catch me up.
theyre watching us now--dont you feel it? be honest now
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:29
theyre watching us now--dont you feel it? be honest now


damnit....i'd better go put on some pants
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:29
Truth is only a matter of perception Pythogria. But how can we trust our perceptions when you control what we perceive?
Silence is Golden Brother Vitt
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:31
I quite understand that.
then I am you disciple
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:32
I know they can-here they can--but TG me and Ill tell you how

You have been TGed.

Could you link me to the thread that started this?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:32
Okay, got to go now. Expect me back in a few hours.
Have to stop laughing.
as who
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:34
Ok, I've been reading through this thread, and there are so many crazy ideas, many said in jest and many in sarcasm, that I can't actually separate the crazy ideas that people actually believe, wtf is being discussed and who believes in whatever is being discussed?
You either Believe or you Dont--I choose to Believe, and you? Do you trust your feelings more then your intellect?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:35
damnit....i'd better go put on some pants
they wont like that...
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:36
You have been TGed.

Could you link me to the thread that started this?
Its gone Missing--coincidence?
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:36
they wont like that...

Then too bad for them. I'm not giving them a peep show.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:38
Then too bad for them. I'm not giving them a peep show.
:D :D :D
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:38
Its gone Missing--coincidence?

Don't worry Brother Mond, I can feel your presence, I know you are safe.
Gruenberg
02-04-2006, 02:38
Has anyone yet speculated that UNA = Optischer/Imperiux? Has that been ruled out?
Thriceaddict
02-04-2006, 02:40
Has anyone yet speculated that UNA = Optischer/Imperiux? Has that been ruled out?
Nothing is ruled out, Except for the sanity of a certain poster in this thread.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:41
Ok, I've been reading through this thread, and there are so many crazy ideas, many said in jest and many in sarcasm, that I can't actually separate the crazy ideas that people actually believe, wtf is being discussed and who believes in whatever is being discussed?

You say "crazy ideas" because you have been trained to think "crazy ideas" when someone disagrees with your reality. But those that trained you also created your reality.
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:41
then I am you disciple
If you truly understand, you'll know there's no need for that. We are all who we are, all equally valid.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:43
Don't worry Brother Mond, I can feel your presence, I know you are safe.
they can never take away the feelings and because you believe your feelings will never betray you Brother Vittos
The Lone Alliance
02-04-2006, 02:44
You all need Therapy...
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:45
they can never take away the feelings and because you believe your feelings will never betray you Brother Vittos


I want to be called Sister Peech...is that possible? Do I have to pay union dues or anything in order to become part of the Brotherhood?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:46
If you truly understand, you'll know there's no need for that. We are all who we are, all equally valid.
E Pluribus Unum
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:47
I want to be called Sister Peech...is that possible? Do I have to pay union dues or anything in order to become part of the Brotherhood?
Do you BELIEVE in "impossible things"? Do you make your OWN reality? Do you choose the path of Freedom or acceptance from the Herd and there reality based on mass concensus
Revnia
02-04-2006, 02:48
You either Believe or you Dont--I choose to Believe, and you? Do you trust your feelings more then your intellect?

Believe what?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:49
I want to be called Sister Peech...is that possible? Do I have to pay union dues or anything in order to become part of the Brotherhood?

I know that you are my sister, but I don't think you quite understand the meaning of sisterhood.
Thriceaddict
02-04-2006, 02:49
You all need Therapy...
Or we are all sane and you are the one in the need of therapy. But who knows. After all we don't know which one of is being controlled by them.:eek:
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:51
Do you BELIEVE in "impossible things"? Do you make your OWN reality? Do you choose the path of Freedom or acceptance from the Herd and there reality based on mass concensus


Yes actually I do believE in "impossible" things. What one perceives as impossible may only be difficult to another. Reality is just another matter of perception. And I've always been a leader not a follower.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:53
Believe what?

First believe, then you will know.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:53
Yes actually I do believE in "impossible" things. What one perceives as impossible may only be difficult to another. Reality is just another matter of perception. And I've always been a leader not a follower.
I think I love you
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:53
I know that you are my sister, but I don't think you quite understand the meaning of sisterhood.


Then lay it out for me bro. Surely there's a manual.
Peechland
02-04-2006, 02:53
I think I love you


I get that a lot.
Revnia
02-04-2006, 02:53
You say "crazy ideas" because you have been trained to think "crazy ideas" when someone disagrees with your reality. But those that trained you also created your reality.

How do you know that my version of reality isn't the exact same as your version of reality, and that I am merely describing those that disagree with us as crazy? If someone makes up an idea and self describes it as crazy is that not justified? If there is only one reality aren't those who perceive it incorrectly perhaps deserving of being termed "crazy". If there are many or infinite realities wouldn't some of them be "crazy" realities just by chance?

Anyhow wtf are you lot on about?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:54
First believe, then you will know.
hes stuck using the programmed sector of his brain:(
Dobbsworld
02-04-2006, 02:54
Yes actually I do believE in "impossible" things. What one perceives as impossible may only be difficult to another. Reality is just another matter of perception. And I've always been a leader not a follower.
I've always been a non-joiner. And really, there's nothing here to join. Or a here, for that matter.


We are what we know.
Revnia
02-04-2006, 02:55
First believe, then you will know.

I believe I don't know.

Silly Gnostic.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:55
I get that a lot.
I hope it doesnt cheapen it:(
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:57
Then lay it out for me bro. Surely there's a manual.

You cannot read a manual in the dark. You need a light.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:57
I've always been a non-joiner. And really, there's nothing here to join. Or a here, for that matter.


We are what we know.
and know what we feel
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 02:58
How do you know that my version of reality isn't the exact same as your version of reality, and that I am merely describing those that disagree with us as crazy? If someone makes up an idea and self describes it as crazy is that not justified? If there is only one reality aren't those who perceive it incorrectly perhaps deserving of being termed "crazy". If there are many or infinite realities wouldn't some of them be "crazy" realities just by chance?

Anyhow wtf are you lot on about?
a tragic case of over-intellectualization:(

he will never open his 3rd eye this way

NOTA BENE
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 02:58
I believe I don't know.

Exactly.
Super-power
02-04-2006, 03:01
Mustapha, the Senate will not change hands. I just do not see it happening.
The Senate will simply make him Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, granting all these emergency powers until he dissolves the Republic for the Empire. :D
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 03:02
The Senate will simply make him Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, granting all these emergency powers until he dissolves the Republic for the Empire. :D

Why would they need to?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 03:03
The Senate will simply make him Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, granting all these emergency powers until he dissolves the Republic for the Empire. :D
your very familiar with the nature of Power unleashed
Peechland
02-04-2006, 03:04
I hope it doesnt cheapen it:(


Of course not, and I was lying anyway. Thats my first profession of love in a long time.




You cannot read a manual in the dark. You need a light.

Dont underestimate my non light having abilities. I can do most things in the dark that others cant do with light. Seriously. I used to practice being blind and feel my way around the house.
Super-power
02-04-2006, 03:05
Why would they need to?
Wait, which Senate was Corneliu talking about again? I may have my Senates confused ;)

your very familiar with the nature of Power unleashed
And your very familiar with the nature of Bad spelling. [/Grammar Nazi]
The Lone Alliance
02-04-2006, 03:14
Or we are all sane and you are the one in the need of therapy. But who knows. After all we don't know which one of is being controlled by them.:eek:

No, I already know I'm insane, that means I'm the 'sane' one here. I already know who's watching.... Do you?
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 03:14
Dont underestimate my non light having abilities. I can do most things in the dark that others cant do with light. Seriously. I used to practice being blind and feel my way around the house.

If you continue to feel through the dark, you will find the light. When you have found the light, you will be Sister Peeches.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 03:15
Of course not, and I was lying anyway. Thats my first profession of love in a long time.






Dont underestimate my non light having abilities. I can do most things in the dark that others cant do with light. Seriously. I used to practice being blind and feel my way around the house.
ALL of my doubts have been removed. I just grew 1/2 an inch as a result of your post-- I changed my visualization. No longer do I visualize my body as flesh and blood but as pure energy or light.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 03:16
No, I already know I'm insane, that means I'm the 'sane' one here. I already know who's watching.... Do you?
Lone knows--hes felt them Watching his entire Life
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 03:17
If you continue to feel through the dark, you will find the light. When you have found the light, you will be Sister Peeches.
Sister Peeches:D
Peechland
02-04-2006, 03:26
ALL of my doubts have been removed. I just grew 1/2 an inch as a result of your post-- I changed my visualization. No longer do I visualize my body as flesh and blood but as pure energy or light.

Whether we are being literal or metaphoric, being able to guide yourself through the darkness increases your awareness and over all physical and intellectual senses. "Light" isnt a neccessity, it's a convenience. Blindfold yourself for 3 days and go about your business. You will learn a lot about yourself. You will feel more confident than you did previously. Things become clear. For instance, I misplace things a lot and end up searching all over the house for them. When I was blindfolded for several days, my mind started to perform at a more efficient rate. I would go looking for something, and my mind would replay where it was the last time I used it. In short, I could find things easier when things were dark than I did previously -lights on.

Those who think the above was simply about seeing/not seeing with your eyes didnt get what I'm talking about. Sometimes you have to be "blind" before you can actually "see".
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 03:47
Sometimes you have to be "blind" before you can actually "see".

You have found the light, Sister Peeches.
Peechland
02-04-2006, 03:51
You have found the light, Sister Peeches.


You had your doubts admit it. I havent let on to the depths of Peechland much on NS. It's scary I tell you.
Revnia
02-04-2006, 03:57
a tragic case of over-intellectualization:(

he will never open his 3rd eye this way

NOTA BENE

There is no Over.
There is a spoon.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 04:00
as who

As myself. Now, any other arguments to be crushed?
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 04:29
thats the first time you ever thought outside of the box--they hate that

Sarcasm is not your thing is it?
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 04:32
Nothing is ruled out, Except for the sanity of a certain poster in this thread.

Yea Mustapha's :D
Corneliu
02-04-2006, 04:35
The Senate will simply make him Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, granting all these emergency powers until he dissolves the Republic for the Empire. :D

OHHH!!! Can I be General Solo?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 04:50
Whether we are being literal or metaphoric, being able to guide yourself through the darkness increases your awareness and over all physical and intellectual senses. "Light" isnt a neccessity, it's a convenience. Blindfold yourself for 3 days and go about your business. You will learn a lot about yourself. You will feel more confident than you did previously. Things become clear. For instance, I misplace things a lot and end up searching all over the house for them. When I was blindfolded for several days, my mind started to perform at a more efficient rate. I would go looking for something, and my mind would replay where it was the last time I used it. In short, I could find things easier when things were dark than I did previously -lights on.

Those who think the above was simply about seeing/not seeing with your eyes didnt get what I'm talking about. Sometimes you have to be "blind" before you can actually "see".
Next Time I go to the Confessional Im closing my eyes Sister Peeches:cool:
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 04:53
There is no Over.
There is a spoon.
thats much better mate now your making no sense at all:cool:
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 04:54
As myself. Now, any other arguments to be crushed?
I went to the Q&A thread and it said you were offline:eek:
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 04:55
I went to the Q&A thread and it said you were offline:eek:

I had to play a game of Risk with my friends. Risk takes a while.
God, what an idiot.
EDIT:

Oh, and you didn't go to it when I presented it. you lose.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 04:56
I had to play a game of Risk with my friends. Risk takes a while.
God, what an idiot.
EDIT:

Oh, and you didn't go to it when I presented it. you lose.
I never heard of it--how do you win?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 04:59
I never heard of it--how do you win?

Risk is a board game set in the 16th century (muskets, cavalry, primitive cannons, etc.) You draw cards at the beginning to detirmine what areas on Earth are yours at the start. (I got lots of Africa, and most of Austrailia and the rest of Oceania.) You then try to take over the earth. It's quite difficult. I lost, but basically, you attack with your armies and roll dices to see who wins.

Official Rules and other stuff:http://boardgames.about.com/od/riskrules/
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:02
Risk is a board game set in the 16th century (muskets, cavalry, primitive cannons, etc.) You draw cards at the beginning to detirmine what areas on Earth are yours at the start. (I got lots of Africa, and most of Austrailia and the rest of Oceania.) You then try to take over the earth. It's quite difficult. I lost, but basically, you attack with your armies and roll dices to see who wins.

Official Rules and other stuff:http://boardgames.about.com/od/riskrules/
when I clicked on your link there was an ad on the Risk boardgame page and this was the ad:http://spe.atdmt.com/b/AANYCASTZSEQ/300x250_CouldYouHave_Bipolar_001.gif:eek:

btw can you play that game online?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:04
when I clicked on your link there was an ad on the Risk boardgame page and this was the ad:http://spe.atdmt.com/b/AANYCASTZSEQ/300x250_CouldYouHave_Bipolar_001.gif:eek: :eek: :eek:

btw can you play that game online?

No, it's just a boardgame. There is an old computer version though. They may have made a new one.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:07
No, it's just a boardgame. There is an old computer version though. They may have made a new one.

There are two new ones, Risk I and Risk II.

Axis and Allies is a better game, though.

So, with your multiple personalities, can you play yourself?
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:07
No, it's just a boardgame. There is an old computer version though. They may have made a new one.
I dont believe in coincidences ever since I saw the Movie V for Vendetta (which I recommend for you to see) and when I clicked on your link there was an ad asking about Bi-polarisation--that is one piece of evidence Im adding to my evolving case about your many incarnations
Revnia
02-04-2006, 05:07
thats much better mate now your making no sense at all:cool:

Ah, if everything has a buddha nature, what is the sound of one dog fucking?
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:09
I dont believe in coincidences ever since I saw the Movie V for Vendetta (which I recommend for you to see) and when I clicked on your link there was an ad asking about Bi-polarisation--that is one piece of evidence Im adding to my evolving case about your many incarnations

What?

*clicks link*

That let right to the page I put in. Just search for it on About.com then. And concidences do happen. Quite a bit actually. And I'll make a note to see that movie soon.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:10
There are two new ones, Risk I and Risk II.

Axis and Allies is a better game, though.

So, with your multiple personalities, can you play yourself?
he said the other personality won
Thriceaddict
02-04-2006, 05:10
Ah, if everything has a buddha nature, what is the sound of one dog fucking?
You have made progress, padawan.
You have acquired the right frame of mind.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:11
What?

*clicks link*

That let right to the page I put in. Just search for it on About.com then. And concidences do happen. Quite a bit actually. And I'll make a note to see that movie soon.

Coincidences are only correlations that our mind refuses to accept.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:12
Coincidences are only correlations that our mind refuses to accept.

Concidences are two related or suspicious events that occur at the same time.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:12
Ah, if everything has a buddha nature, what is the sound of one dog fucking?
that which remains when there is no more sound is the sound of a dog getting fucked
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:14
What?

*clicks link*

That let right to the page I put in. Just search for it on About.com then. And concidences do happen. Quite a bit actually. And I'll make a note to see that movie soon.
that movie is about Bush;)

Trust me what you call concidences are hidden communications
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:14
Concidences are two related or suspicious events that occur at the same time.

That makes less sense than what I said.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:16
You have made progress, padawan.
You have acquired the right frame of mind.
you approach the Truth eagerly Brother Thrice
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:16
That makes less sense than what I said.

How so?
Do you even know what proof means?
And Mustapha, how are they communications? Again, no proof at all.
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:17
Coincidences are only correlations that our mind refuses to accept.
we must resist the urge to think with the outer Mind Bro Vit
MustaphaMond516
02-04-2006, 05:19
How so?
Do you even know what proof means?
And Mustapha, how are they communications? Again, no proof at all.
a random sequence of events is never random
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:19
Prove that.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:23
How so?

By your rigid standards of reality, a coincident is defined as being two unrelated occurrences, with suspicion having nothing to do with it.

EDIT: Now, if you would distance yourself from what you have been conditioned to think, you would know that there are no coincidences.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 05:23
thats the first time you ever thought outside of the box--they hate that
You know... they also hate when people say such things; it proves that there is someone who always does it.

no great miracles are ever accomplished thru proof
How else has religion survived this long? It requires no proof... heh... ;)

You either Believe or you Dont--I choose to Believe, and you? Do you trust your feelings more then your intellect?
Well, we know which you're trusting, since if you did trust your intelligence, you'd question both the 'official' story and the conspiracy theory. After all, you're going on your gut feeling and believing the tripe that is proposed instead of questioning all parts.

Its gone Missing--coincidence?
9/11 Inside Job? What do you think? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=471886)

It's funny that you consider a thread 'missing' when it's buried DEEEEP in, all the way on *gasp* page 3! :eek: AH! NO!! It's a massive government conspiracy! People aren't all flocking to this thread and keeping it at the top of the first page!

Sarcasm is not your thing is it?
And you're just realising it now? ;) Geez... you go away for a couple of hours and look how quickly you forget about the prey and its very nature.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:25
By your rigid standards of reality, a coincident is defined as being two unrelated occurrences, with suspicion having nothing to do with it.

How is reality rigid? Strange things happen and are real. (NOTE: Yours do not qualify as they aren't proven.) And do people say "What a concidence!" when they went to the store at the same time someone else went to bed? No. They say it if they happen at the same time and are related. Suspicion often follows concidences however.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:27
How is reality rigid? Strange things happen and are real. (NOTE: Yours do not qualify as they aren't proven.) And do people say "What a concidence!" when they went to the store at the same time someone else went to bed? No. They say it if they happen at the same time and are related. Suspicion often follows concidences however.

Prove that reality is real.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:29
Prove that reality is real.

Reality is defined as being real. Now look at your hand. Does it exist? Is it touchable? Can you feel using it? If your hand is still attached and you don't have any medical problems, those answers should all be "yes".

Because your hand is real and exists, along with myself, and the rest of our world, then reality is proven and real.
Vittos Ordination2
02-04-2006, 05:30
Reality is defined as being real. Now look at your hand. Does it exist? Is it touchable? Can you feel using it? If your hand is still attached and you don't have any medical problems, those answers should all be "yes".

Because your hand is real and exists, along with myself, and the rest of our world, then reality is proven and real.

Prove that my perception is correct?
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 05:32
Reality is defined as being real. Now look at your hand. Does it exist? Is it touchable? Can you feel using it? If your hand is still attached and you don't have any medical problems, those answers should all be "yes".

Because your hand is real and exists, along with myself, and the rest of our world, then reality is proven and real.
However, one may argue that reality stems beyond what meets the eye.

After all, we can't see or touch oxygen. We can breathe it in, however, it comes with other chemicals. Even though we can't see or touch it, it still exists, which makes it part of reality. We accept its existance as scentific fact.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:32
Prove that my perception is correct?

Well, reality is always perceptible.

If you exist and know other things exist, your perception is correct. Perception does differ (example: I believe Bush is a moron, but some think he should be a king.) But as humans, that is normal.
Pythogria
02-04-2006, 05:33
However, one may argue that reality stems beyond what meets the eye.

After all, we can't see or touch oxygen. We can breathe it in, however, it comes with other chemicals. Even though we can't see or touch it, it still exists, which makes it part of reality. We accept its existance as scentific fact.

We breath it in, so we can percept it. Thus, it is real.
Thriceaddict
02-04-2006, 05:34
We breath it in, so we can percept it. Thus, it is real.
But how do you know you really need it?
It could just be a weird human habit.
Kryozerkia
02-04-2006, 05:35
But how do you know you really need it?
It could just be a weird human habit.
Cover your mouth and nose and wait.

Come back to us with the results...