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Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

I think everybody is out of touch with everything and everyone.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

Oh joy....another trolling thread.

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There the oppersition, ity's there job to oppose. Plus, Bush is doing more harm to the US than good.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
1) John McCain is liberal? That'll come as a shock to the anti-abortion Republican senator.

2) Considering the idiot-in-chief's approval ratings, his critics are clearly in touch with over sixty percent of the US citizens.

Good question. Everybody knows that the ideas of a market economy and small government aren't hugely popular, so why do they keep supporting it?

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

I'm just wondering in what world John McCain AND Colin Powell could be seen as liberal...

Oh joy....another trolling thread.
Bet you it will still rack up 20-25 pages min.

Okay, he's not trolling. This is what he thinks and he wants your thoughts on his thoughts. He's not attacking anyone here.

Personally, I agree. They seem to be revolving around their enemies instead of making their own ideas. If they ever do defeat the Republicans, then they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
And right there, you lose your conservative credentials.

Okay, he's not trolling. This is what he thinks and he wants your thoughts on his thoughts. He's not attacking anyone here.

Personally, I agree. They seem to be revolving around their enemies instead of making their own ideas. If they ever do defeat the Republicans, then they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.

Oh no, it is. He's done this a myriad number of time sbefore, never backs up his arguments and just descends into bickering.

If they ever do defeat the Republicans, then they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.

I think something like that happened here. The govt lost a lot of money or something.

Okay, he's not trolling. This is what he thinks and he wants your thoughts on his thoughts. He's not attacking anyone here.

Personally, I agree. They seem to be revolving around their enemies instead of making their own ideas. If they ever do defeat the Republicans, then they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.
Yous een any other threads, he starts totally iinoccent like this but give it a few pages and he's torturing chidlren and calling people traitors.

Oh no, it is. He's done this a myriad number of time sbefore, never backs up his arguments and just descends into bickering.

Yet we keep on falling for it :p

I'm just wondering in what world John McCain AND Colin Powell could be seen as liberal...And being seen as the oppostion. Just how close to you have to be to Bush to be part of the opposition?

Okay, he's not trolling. This is what he thinks and he wants your thoughts on his thoughts. He's not attacking anyone here.

Personally, I agree. They seem to be revolving around their enemies instead of making their own ideas. If they ever do defeat the Republicans, then they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.
Sure they will. National healthcare, a balanced budget, and a less intrusive foreign policy make for a pretty good platform.

Yet we keep on falling for it :p

I like squashing his idiotic history knowledge, plus it's good practice. I'm not going to lose my temper in this thread.

And being seen as the oppostion. Just how close to you have to be to Bush to be part of the opposition?

Do you think Bush will be seen as a dangerous liberal questioning himself in the next post from Un Ambassador?

Sure they will. National healthcare, a balanced budget, and a less intrusive foreign policy make for a pretty good platform.
I have a bigger platform than that.

Although I am curious on how Colin Powell is liberal...

I'm just wondering in what world John McCain AND Colin Powell could be seen as liberal...
A really, really, really, right wing one?

Good thing I upgraded my troll-o-meter after the last thread, it just about survived the OP without blowing up.

I have a bigger platform than that.

Although I am curious on how Colin Powell is liberal...
My platform's so big it's covered with snow all year round.

...they won't have a platform to stand on anymore.

That's the main Problem with Democrats at the moment. They're so afraid of looking "weak" that they back down on pretty much every issue that comes up. What does this do? It makes them look weak.
Well, at least that's the problem with Democrats in office in D.C.

McCain...he's not exactly liberal, but he's as liberal as any Republican will ever be!

As to the original issue, Liberals in in general are not trying to attack America (unless, of course, you want to say that certain idiot officials ARE "America"). Currently, to argue your point, the "will of America" is not exactly alligned with the President. If you could explain further what you mean by "out of touch with America" ti would be easier for the rest of us to tell you why you're wrong. :p
You need to be more specific.

My platform's so big it's covered with snow all year round.

Remember that it's not the size of the platform, but how many voters you can attract with it.

A really, really, really, right wing one?

Good thing I upgraded my troll-o-meter after the last thread, it just about survived the OP without blowing up.

I suppose Colin is equal opportunity...he doesn't have any bias about WHO the US invade...

Do you think Bush will be seen as a dangerous liberal questioning himself in the next post from Un Ambassador?

Nooononono - it's abassador. Note the horrifically incorrect spelling. But it's all ok because he meant to spell it that way.

Nooononono - it's abassador. Note the horrifically incorrect spelling. But it's all ok because he meant to spell it that way.

Oh, sorry, my mind was so boggled by the stupidity of the argument, i completely overlooked the stupidity of the spelling...my bad.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

McCain and Powell are centrists, not leftists. For that matter, many real conservatives, myself included, have had our fill of Bush. It's no longer just the left-wing whackos that are against the President. The mainstream is getting fed up.

Okay people, here's the bets for this thread:

Scathing criticism of liberals: 1:1

Criticism of Cindy Sheehan: 2.5:1

Criticism of anyone who attacks Bush: 2:1

Issues connected to 'liberals', ie abortion, death penalty etc: 4:1

Insane historical knowledge: 5:1 (3:1 if China attacking Pearl Harbor is mentioned)

Attack on public schools: 10:1

Attack on Islam: 25:1

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
*Plays the Tool Card*

Oh, sorry, my mind was so boggled by the stupidity of the argument, i completely overlooked the stupidity of the spelling...my bad.

Meh. Arguing legitimately with stupid people who don't really HAVE an argument is fun.

I have a bigger platform than that.

Although I am curious on how Colin Powell is liberal...

well Colin Powell is black, and you ahve seen the comedians, there arnt any blacks in the republican party, jees listen to a comic sometime:headbang:

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

They have some "decency", presumably, because I'll tell you now - Bush, and anybody who supports the fuck - doesn't.

Although I am curious on how Colin Powell is liberal...

well that's standard operating procedure within the bush cult - all opposition (real or imagined) to dear leader is called 'liberal'.

Okay people, here's the bets for this thread:

Scathing criticism of liberals: 1:1

Criticism of anyone who attacks Bush: 2:1

Insane historical knowledge: 5:1 (3:1 if China attacking Pearl Harbor is mentioned)

Attack on public schools: 10:1


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You're my new favorite person. :p

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

I think it would be ridiculous to oppose someone on everything they do (they must've got votes somehow), however it would also be ridiculous to assume that they're perfect in every way (still human I hope). So it's perfectly reasonable to oppose some decisions.
I personally don't think that George Bush is pure evil, but I don't think that none of his decisions were bad.

Oh, sorry, my mind was so boggled by the stupidity of the argument, i completely overlooked the stupidity of the spelling...my bad.

Haha, that's ok - I can see how that would happen. In fact I think I might only be immune to it because of my extreme exposure to it during his delightful 'ban public schools' thread.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
I think you are out of touch with reality

Okay people, here's the bets for this thread:

Scathing criticism of liberals: 1:1

Criticism of anyone who attacks Bush: 2:1

Insane historical knowledge: 5:1 (3:1 if China attacking Pearl Harbor is mentioned)

Attack on public schools: 10:1

Can we have a random attack on Cindy Sheehan? It's been AGES since we had one of them. And someone can bring Islam or abortion into it if they want.

Haha, that's ok - I can see how that would happen. In fact I think I might only be immune to it because of my extreme exposure to it during his delightful 'ban public schools' thread.

Are we talking public schools in the American sense? Or public schools in the UK sense?

Can we have a random attack on Cindy Sheehan? It's been AGES since we had one of them. And someone can bring Islam or abortion into it if they want.

I'll update the list.

I'll update the list.

Yeah, well, i'm worried about Cindy, it's been ages since some spotty fifteen year old from Buttfuck, Idaho wanted to burn her at the stake for having an opinion contrary to their ill-formed one...think she might be feeling a lil left out, you know?

Yeah, well, i'm worried about Cindy, it's been ages since some spotty fifteen year old from Buttfuck, Idaho wanted to burn her at the stake for having an opinion contrary to their ill-formed one...think she might be feeling a lil left out, you know?


I think I'm going to have to move out to Idaho, find some random bit o' land not already taken over with potatoes, call it a town, and name it Buttfuck.


P.S. How long until someone can manage to get this thread COMPLETELY off topic? I'm voting go for the possibility of Marsians invading Somalia.

Okay people, here's the bets for this thread:

Scathing criticism of liberals: 1:1

Criticism of Cindy Sheehan: 2.5:1

Criticism of anyone who attacks Bush: 2:1

Issues connected to 'liberals', ie abortion, death penalty etc: 4:1

Insane historical knowledge: 5:1 (3:1 if China attacking Pearl Harbor is mentioned)

Attack on public schools: 10:1

Attack on Islam: 25:1

I'll have:
£50 on the first
£70 on the third
£90 on the fourth, assuming he's going to be upholding a ridiculously right-wing stance on them
£30 on the fifth (less opportunity for use of history in this case)
£10 on the sixth (he has his other thread for that)

Can we have a random attack on Cindy Sheehan? It's been AGES since we had one of them. And someone can bring Islam or abortion into it if they want.
Here you go:

That Cindy Sheeham is so stupid and follish. we all just know that she some left wing, communist, nazi islamic terrorist woman that has had 59 abortions. And Abortion is a crime you know, IT MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We should kill everyone who has an abortion!!!! WAHHHH! And lets kill Cindy Sheeham and all ehr familly and lets invade 1ran!!!!! Whoo! GWB GWB USA USA USA!!!

I think I'm going to have to move out to Idaho, find some random bit o' land not already taken over with potatoes, call it a town, and name it Buttfuck.

It's gotta be done, hasn't it?

I'm sure there's an Intercourse in Nebraska...

Here you go:

That Cindy Sheeham is so stupid and follish. we all just know that she some left wing, communist, nazi islamic terrorist woman that has had 59 abortions. And Abortion is a crime you know, IT MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We should kill everyone who has an abortion!!!! WAHHHH! And lets kill Cindy Sheeham and all ehr familly and lets invade 1ran!!!!! Whoo! GWB GWB USA USA USA!!!

Aw, thanks, that warmed me to the bottom of my heart.

Not to mention the heart of my bottom.

I said NOT TO MENTION, NO PUNS.

It's gotta be done, hasn't it?

I'm sure there's an Intercourse in Nebraska...
Actually, it's in Pennsylvania.

It's gotta be done, hasn't it?

I'm sure there's an Intercourse in Nebraska...

Don't forget Fucking Austria.

Are we talking public schools in the American sense? Or public schools in the UK sense?

American - that caused me a bit of confusion at first, before I realised that no-one educated in Britain could be so blindingly stupid :D:p

Actually, it's in Pennsylvania.

Ah, i misremembered. Worth visiting merely to send the postcard home...

Don't forget Fucking Austria.

Who do you think i am, Kurt Waldheim?

Don't forget Fucking Austria.

I'm pretty sure there's a Dildo in Canada, and a Brown Willy in Cornwall.

Actually, it's in Pennsylvania.

REALLY...that's not as far as Nebraska...I think a road trip is in order...just to the sign that says "Now entering Intercourse"

American - that caused me a bit of confusion at first, before I realised that no-one educated in Britain could be so blindingly stupid :D:p

Ah, right. Well, the Blair government seems to be fulfilling his wishes in the UK anyway...

:(

I'm pretty sure there's a Dildo in Canada, and a Brown Willy in Cornwall.

THERES LOADS OF DILDOS IN CANADA COS ITS FULL OF LIBERAL FEMINAZI DYKES!!!11!2"1!!

excuse me, i came over all right wing for a second...

I'm pretty sure there's a Dildo in Canada, and a Brown Willy in Cornwall.
There's Hell, Norway, too. :p

You can look them up on wikipedia if you want...

There's Hell, Norway, too. :p

You can look them up on wikipedia if you want...

Surely all of Norway is Hell? Why do you think the Norse were so interested in invading Durham, York, East Anglia, The Isle of Man? None of them qualify for the title "paradise"...

Okay, abassodorship has gone offline. Can we stop this now?

Okay, abassodorship has gone offline. Can we stop this now?

No, it's getting quite fun...far better than the original thread.

I'm just wondering in what world John McCain AND Colin Powell could be seen as liberal...
John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.

John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.

I beg you..............just stop. Please.

Stop.

Please.

John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.

Oh, sorry, excuse me, opposing torture is a sign of being a liberal?

And, no, i get the impression from his pronouncements that Powell thinks the way the US went to war, and the way it had no proper set out goals for peace in Iraq was a "bad idea". Given the man has fought for his country, which you haven't, and given he rose to prominence in helping to cover up US atrocities in 'Nam, i don't think "liberal" quite fits Mr Powell meself. Sorry. But "opposing Bush" does not = "liberal"...

or are you saying Saddam Hussein was a liberal?

Oh no, it is. He's done this a myriad number of time sbefore, never backs up his arguments and just descends into bickering.
I back up my arguments every time, its just that you dont want to hear what I have to say

Can we have a random attack on Cindy Sheehan? It's been AGES since we had one of them. And someone can bring Islam or abortion into it if they want.

Wait... Cindy Sheehan... was pregnant with the reincarnation of mohammed... so she got an abortion... which is why Joseph Stalin won the Battle of Gettysburg!

Quick, someone ship this to ambassador! This is gold!

I back up my arguments every time, its just that you dont want to hear what I have to say

China attacked Pearl Harbour

Vietnam was lost by anti-war protestors

Ho Chi Minh wanted to spread communism to Australia

WW!! was won by the US alone

Please, what are your arguments for these? Backed up by historical evidence and logical arguments.

Ah, right. Well, the Blair government seems to be fulfilling his wishes in the UK anyway...

:(

Hehe, I was actually kidding btw - I know a depressingly large number of cretins here.

A prime example - a girl in my friend's English class today (A level English no less) was being harangued by the teacher for being a bimbo. Said girl gets all upset and starts texting her mum about the whole situation... only to look up halfway through the text to ask 'how d'you spell bimbo?'

I mean really! How the hell else are you meant to spell it?! It's not like you can sneak a 'j' in there on the sly or anything is it?!?!?! Fucking idiot. (Incidentally she is a complete bimbo).

John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.
And explain then, why should torture be legal? Why is anyone who opposes the legalization of torture a "liberal" (which really isn't that bad of an insult, you know...)? How was the Iraq war a good idea? Where do you have the proof?

Yous een any other threads, he starts totally iinoccent like this but give it a few pages and he's torturing chidlren and calling people traitors.
I have never tortured children, I have just said that in certain circumstances it is a valid method, which is true.

Wait... Cindy Sheehan... was pregnant with the reincarnation of mohammed... so she got an abortion... which is why Joseph Stalin won the Battle of Gettysburg!

Quick, someone ship this to ambassador! This is gold!

No, don't be silly, she would have had the baby if it was Mohammed! Because she's an America hating TRAYTA who loves them ayrabs. More likely, she was pregnant with JAYSUS and had an abortion, cos she was a muslim. Innit?

John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.
That doesn't make them liberal. That makes them of average intelligence or better. Those who don't oppose torture and who can't figgure out that the Iraq war was a dumb idea are just a little bit "special".

I back up my arguments every time, its just that you dont want to hear what I have to say

You ignore whenever someone, like me, rips into your so-called arguments. That way you can still be right... in your own head.

To date you've ignored everything I've ever said on-topic, so tell me why I shouldn't call you the troll you are?

Wait... Cindy Sheehan... was pregnant with the reincarnation of mohammed... so she got an abortion... which is why Joseph Stalin won the Battle of Gettysburg!
LMAO! Add something about evolution vs. creation, sex, and personal information and you'll have a perfect summary of NS General. :p

I back up my arguments every time, its just that you dont want to hear what I have to say

If by backing up your arguements you mean saying "liberal lies", or "That's wrong"?
You have never provided a single piece of evidence for your claims or a link to supposed 'facts' that you state.

EDIT: It's also very entertainting to see that he hasn't even backed up this arguement, not a quote or anything! :D

No, don't be silly, she would have had the baby if it was Mohammed! Because she's an America hating TRAYTA who loves them ayrabs. More likely, she was pregnant with JAYSUS and had an abortion, cos she was a muslim. Innit?

Don't be a fool! If she had the baby, Hitler wouldn't have been able to conquer Rome with his elephants!

>_>

McCain and Powell are centrists, not leftists. For that matter, many real conservatives, myself included, have had our fill of Bush. It's no longer just the left-wing whackos that are against the President. The mainstream is getting fed up.
why have you hade your fill of Bush? Its his base that he needs to stay with him, why are you turning your back on him?

Hehe, I was actually kidding btw - I know a depressingly large number of cretins here.

A prime example - a girl in my friend's English class today (A level English no less) was being harangued by the teacher for being a bimbo. Said girl gets all upset and starts texting her mum about the whole situation... only to look up halfway through the text to ask 'how d'you spell bimbo?'

I mean really! How the hell else are you meant to spell it?! It's not like you can sneak a 'j' in there on the sly or anything is it?!?!?! Fucking idiot. (Incidentally she is a complete bimbo).

Thats priceless actually. I do love the way the country has descended into knuckle-dragging idiocy in the past 20 or so years. Back then, with my interest in history books and my wide range of reading, i qualified as a middle-brow mind, and knew it. These days, public debate has degraded so much i'm tempted to think of myself as South Wales' last living intellectual, so it's been good for my self esteem if nowt else ;)

Plus it means i never have to wait for my burgers and fries...

John McCain for some reason opposes Bush on torture and Colin Powell for some reason thinks the Iraq war "was a bad idea" please.

Okay, so you believe the Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State somehow has no idea what he's talking about and blowing it out his ass when he makes a political/strategic observation about the Iraq invasion?

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a contender for Corny's "I m t3h m1l1try 3xp3rtz!!!" Championship Belt!!

Don't be a fool! If she had the baby, Hitler wouldn't have been able to conquer Rome with his elephants!

>_>

First mention of Hitler in the thread...should i invoke the law?

No? ITS JUST LIKE LIVING IN NAZI GERMANY HERE

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
Do you think Bush is liberal? Because Powell and McCain usually agree with him.

I have never tortured children, I have just said that in certain circumstances it is a valid method, which is true.

Sigged.

Here you go:

That Cindy Sheeham is so stupid and follish. we all just know that she some left wing, communist, nazi islamic terrorist woman that has had 59 abortions. And Abortion is a crime you know, IT MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We should kill everyone who has an abortion!!!! WAHHHH! And lets kill Cindy Sheeham and all ehr familly and lets invade 1ran!!!!! Whoo! GWB GWB USA USA USA!!!
Thank you finely someone knows where Im coming from. Dont you love how liberals call bombing a Iraq town with terrorist in it some how worse than killing an innocent baby

Thank you finely someone knows where Im coming from. Dont you love how liberals call bombing a Iraq town with terrorist in it some how worse than killing an innocent baby

You see? You see, people? How this cannot be a troll is beyond me.

Oh - I also want your historical statements backed up with historical evidence and logical arguments.

I'd like to know under what circumstances U.N. abassadorship thinks killing 35,000 innocent Iraqi civiliians is justified.

Oh, sorry, excuse me, opposing torture is a sign of being a liberal?

And, no, i get the impression from his pronouncements that Powell thinks the way the US went to war, and the way it had no proper set out goals for peace in Iraq was a "bad idea". Given the man has fought for his country, which you haven't, and given he rose to prominence in helping to cover up US atrocities in 'Nam, i don't think "liberal" quite fits Mr Powell meself. Sorry. But "opposing Bush" does not = "liberal"...

or are you saying Saddam Hussein was a liberal?
well Saddam was a socialist... but more than that he was a bad man who was planning to attack Amercia and America is safer today with Saddam Hussein in Prison!

Thank you finely someone knows where Im coming from. Dont you love how liberals call bombing a Iraq town with terrorist in it some how worse than killing an innocent baby
There are no innocent babies. They've got original sin, so it's ok to kill them before they're baptized. Plus their bodies should be used for research, nutritional supplements, and left-hand-path religious ceremonies. No sense letting them go to waste.

Thank you finely someone knows where Im coming from. Dont you love how liberals call bombing a Iraq town with terrorist in it some how worse than killing an innocent baby
Because all the inhabitants of that town were terrorists, right? And thus they all deserved to die? :rolleyes: [/sarcasm]

well Saddam was a socialist... but more than that he was a bad man who was planning to attack Amercia and America is safer today with Saddam Hussein in Prison!

How exactly was he going to attack America? I seem to recall him having no airforce to speak of, given the US had been blowing it out of the sky for a decade, no real army and no other viable forces...and America is...a bit of a distance away.

And no, he wasn't a Socialist, he was a nationalist dictator with vague socialist overtones to keep himself in power.

who was planning to attack Amercia
I'm so glad we managed to avert disaster for all those poor Amercians. ;) :p :D

And explain then, why should torture be legal? Why is anyone who opposes the legalization of torture a "liberal" (which really isn't that bad of an insult, you know...)? How was the Iraq war a good idea? Where do you have the proof?
Torture allows America to gain info in the most effective way, and the Iraq war is a good idea, because well, I mean how is it a bad idea. We cant think in a pre-9/11 mindset

I'm so glad we managed to avert disaster for all those poor Amercians. ;) :p :D

Amercia, the beautiful :)

i would like to offer the abassadorosor some Ferrero Rocher, cause he must be hungry after all the thinking he has been doing...........

cos everyone knows.......

not sure if this ad came to the US, but english people may get it...

How exactly was he going to attack America? I seem to recall him having no airforce to speak of, given the US had been blowing it out of the sky for a decade, no real army and no other viable forces...and America is...a bit of a distance away.

And no, he wasn't a Socialist, he was a nationalist dictator with vague socialist overtones to keep himself in power.
I remember just before the war they were saying that Saddam had remote-controlled surveilance planes that could be fitted with WMD and flown off of merchant ships into US territory. The "remote controlled surveilance plane" that they showed on TV looked like a model plane one could buy in a hobby shop for a few hundred dollars. Needless to say, I was terrified.

well Saddam was a socialist... but more than that he was a bad man who was planning to attack Amercia and America is safer today with Saddam Hussein in Prison!

You're doing it again!, this is just too funny. Yet again you've made a statement without any proof, you didn't even say how he was a danger to the U.S.A!

That doesn't make them liberal. That makes them of average intelligence or better. Those who don't oppose torture and who can't figgure out that the Iraq war was a dumb idea are just a little bit "special".
Please, although I do agree that the President is special. Its not everyday we are blessed to have a president as special as Bush.

I think I'll take The UN Ambassadorship's ignoring of my post to translate to: "Yes, Santa Barbara. I AM a troll, and no, I don't back up my statements with anything."

Torture allows America to gain info in the most effective way, and the Iraq war is a good idea, because well, I mean how is it a bad idea. We cant think in a pre-9/11 mindset

Yeah, can't think in a pre-9/11 mindset, that would be awful, i mean, pre-9/11 what did America do? Continually invade smaller, weaker countries with little to no justification for pure realpolitik reasons whilst trumpeting it being for a (bogus) moral cause.

Heaven forbid that happening again, eh?

I think I'll take The UN Ambassadorship's ignoring of my post to translate to: "Yes, Santa Barbara. I AM a troll, and no, I don't back up my statements with anything."

I'll also take his ignoring of my post to mean that his historical statements are complete and utter bullshit that he can't prove and knows are wrong.

I remember just before the war they were saying that Saddam had remote-controlled surveilance planes that could be fitted with WMD and flown off of merchant ships into US territory. The "remote controlled surveilance plane" that they showed on TV looked like a model plane one could buy in a hobby shop for a few hundred dollars. Needless to say, I was terrified.

So would i be, my mate Steve Starr flies those in his spare time.

OMG HE COULD BE AN IRAQI MOLE!!!!!!

:-o

You ignore whenever someone, like me, rips into your so-called arguments. That way you can still be right... in your own head.

To date you've ignored everything I've ever said on-topic, so tell me why I shouldn't call you the troll you are?
Because Im not. Name one time I havent answered you and I will prove you wrong right here

Torture allows America to gain info in the most effective way, and the Iraq war is a good idea, because well, I mean how is it a bad idea. We cant think in a pre-9/11 mindset
How is it a bad idea?

1) More people in the muslim world hate us now, which means less intel from them, and more of them willing to resort to terrorism.

2) Iraq is on the verge of becoming a failed state like Afghanistan after the soviets left. We can't stay there forever, and when we leave, it becomes Al Qaeda and crazy warlord central.

3) It's drawn people and resources away from destroying Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

There's more, but that should be all you need.

Torture allows America to gain info in the most effective way, and the Iraq war is a good idea, because well, I mean how is it a bad idea. We cant think in a pre-9/11 mindset
Good use of logical fallacies, but... not detailed enough. It's far too obvious. :p

I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.

Damn liberals taking away our guns, ability to burn leaves, and torture whoever we have to! Damn right brother! Fight the power!

*is told conseratives are in power*

I don't care, Yeha!

So if liberals are attacking America blame the conservatives inabilty to defend it.

So would i be, my mate Steve Starr flies those in his spare time.

OMG HE COULD BE AN IRAQI MOLE!!!!!!

:-o
I don't think the geneva convention or any human rights laws apply to moles. You should torture him.

I'd like to know under what circumstances U.N. abassadorship thinks killing 35,000 innocent Iraqi civiliians is justified.
Whenever protecting innocent lives are at stake

How is it a bad idea?

1) More people in the muslim world hate us now, which means less intel from them, and more of them willing to resort to terrorism.

2) Iraq is on the verge of becoming a failed state like Afghanistan after the soviets left. We can't stay there forever, and when we leave, it becomes Al Qaeda and crazy warlord central.

3) It's drawn people and resources away from destroying Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

There's more, but that should be all you need.

Oh, you missed "the answers given by torture victims are usually the answers the torturers want to hear, rather than the truth"

The UN Ambassadorship is Ann Coulter.

The UN Abassadorship, you are a liar.

Whenever protecting innocent lives are at stake

The Iraqi civilians are not innocent then?

Please, although I do agree that the President is special. Its not everyday we are blessed to have a president as special as Bush.
He's so special they had to shorten Air Force One. He has to wear a hockey helmet when he's on board because he likes to hit his head on the windows.

I'm so glad we managed to avert disaster for all those poor Amercians. ;) :p :D
I know me too, the President acted just in time

Whenever protecting innocent lives are at stake

So killing 35,000 innocent people is protecting innocent lives :rolleyes:

Whenever protecting innocent lives are at stake

We've been over this already.

1000 innocent lives < 30000 innocent lives

and so on.

I don't think the geneva convention or any human rights laws apply to moles. You should torture him.

No, but he's covered under the "Small Furry Mammals" treaty first formulated by the Wombles of Wimbledon, circa 1976.

No, but he's covered under the "Small Furry Mammals" treaty first formulated by the Wombles of Wimbledon, circa 1976.

But did the US ratify it?

But did the US ratify it?

They better have, or McWomble the Terrible will declare a jihad!

You're doing it again!, this is just too funny. Yet again you've made a statement without any proof, you didn't even say how he was a danger to the U.S.A!
Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you

I know me too, the President acted just in time
It's a pity the country he was defending turned out not to exist at all, hm? I've never heard of a place called "Amercia." On the other hand, America was in no danger of being attacked by someone who spent most of his money on maintaining oppressive internal policies anyway and had long been limited by the UN, USA, NATO, and other much more powerful international organisations.

Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you

1. Even if he had WMDs, which hasn't been proven, he couldn't launch the damned things at the US anyway

2. NO, you fool. The two hated each other - Bin Laden thought Saddam too moderate, and Saddam hated Bin Laden for various reasons. They never would have cooperated.

Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you
Give us proof plzkthx.

Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you

He was harbouring Osama? NO WONDER BUSH AND HIS MERRY MEN HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND HIM AFTER FIVE YEARS LOOKING!!!

The Iraqi civilians are not innocent then?
you know what I mean

*enjoys watching people take UN Abbbafanship seriously and waste precious time on her obvious silliness by making serious replies*

you know what I mean

What you mean, basically, is that "foreign folks lives are worth less than Americans", which is a fine and noble stance sir.

Give us proof plzkthx.
The President told us before the war and I heard it on the news

*enjoys watching people take UN Abbbafanship seriously and waste precious time on her obvious silliness by making serious replies to obvious trolling*

Yeah, but it's fun. Like shooting very large fish in a very small barrel. With a bazooka.

Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you

There has been no evidence for WMDs, and Osama Bin Laden considered Saddam to be an infidel for setting up his dictatorship instead of a Muslim theocracy - so Saddam was not harbouring Osama Bin Laden. Do I have to spell it out for you again?
Who told you all this anyway?

The President told us before the war and I heard it on the news

He's since denied ever saying it. And his fan-club have denied him ever saying it. You know why? BECAUSE HE WAS LYING.

Because he had WMD's and was harboring terrorists including Osama bin Laden, do I have to spell it out for you

The problem is, we've found fewer WMDs in Iraq than at Taco Bell. And, though Saddam had dealings with Palestinian terrorists, he had no ties to Bin Laden.

Please, although I do agree that the President is special. Its not everyday we are blessed to have a president as special as Bush.

excellent quote from Simpsons...

Flanders: "And Ralph, you go in the 'special' team"
Ralph: "I'm special!"

But either way, The UN abassadorship has done this before, admitted he was wrong and is now doing it again?

As I said, The UN abassadorship, you're a liar. You cannot be trusted.

*enjoys watching people take UN Abbbafanship seriously and waste precious time on her obvious silliness by making serious replies*
Id appreciate if you wouldnt misspell my name, Im not a "her" and Im not being silly, Im trying to have a serious decision so please. I love liberals cant beat my arguments how they just go "oh he must be a troll" jeessh

The President told us before the war and I heard it on the news
The Prez also promised us that Iraqi oil would pay for the invasion and that we'd be greeted with flowers and that each American family would get a free gumdrop tree. I want my damn gumdrop tree!

The Prez also promised us that Iraqi oil would pay for the invasion and that we'd be greeted with flowers and that each American family would get a free gumdrop tree. I want my damn gumdrop tree!

Osama stole all the gumdrop trees.

The President told us before the war and I heard it on the news
And of course he couldn't have any motivation to... well... stretch the truth a little bit? Or just not know everything? Of course not, President Bush is omnipotent and omniscient, and we should build temples to Him and worship Him as our God.

I'll get started by rounding up millions of those nasty un-"Amercian" liberals from Canada to work as slaves to build them today!

The problem is, we've found fewer WMDs in Iraq than at Taco Bell. And, though Saddam had dealings with Palestinian terrorists, he had no ties to Bin Laden.
wait, we found WMD in a taco bell in Iraq? I knew it, see this is what the left wing media doesnt report on.

Id appreciate if you wouldnt misspell my name, Im not a "her" and Im not being silly, Im trying to have a serious decision so please. I love liberals cant beat my arguments how they just go "oh he must be a troll" jeessh

Beat your arguements? You mean like this?:

1. Even if he had WMDs, which hasn't been proven, he couldn't launch the damned things at the US anyway

2. NO, you fool. The two hated each other - Bin Laden thought Saddam too moderate, and Saddam hated Bin Laden for various reasons. They never would have cooperated.

You just can't accept different ideas

Because Im not. Name one time I havent answered you and I will prove you wrong right here

You never answered this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10610706&postcount=176) post.

You said that peak oil is "liberal lies," yet there is a US ARMY report which confirms the theory. Thus, you are implying that the US Army is a "lying liberal."

But you never replied to the post. I'm guessing you didn't read it, much like you didn't read my post until I used size 24 font to get your attention.

So go ahead, prove me wrong. Prove how the US Army is a lying liberal. I'll wait. Go on.

He's since denied ever saying it. And his fan-club have denied him ever saying it. You know why? BECAUSE HE WAS LYING.
The president doesnt lie

The problem is, we've found fewer WMDs in Iraq than at Taco Bell. And, though Saddam had dealings with Palestinian terrorists, he had no ties to Bin Laden.
Well, knowing some of the things they put in the tacos at Taco Bell.... :p

The president doesnt lie

Just like you don't.

But you have.

Liar.

wait, we found WMD in a taco bell in Iraq? I knew it, see this is what the left wing media doesnt report on.
ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!


Best. Post. Ever.

wait, we found WMD in a taco bell in Iraq? I knew it, see this is what the left wing media doesnt report on.

I really hope that was sarcastic, otherwise it shows that you believe liberals are the root of all evil.
It would also prove that you believe anything you are told if it's pro Bush, like "Saddam has links with Bin Laden", thus relegating all your "facts" to just bollocks. You're an easy target for brainwashing aren't you? (Let me guess, you're answers going too be: "I'm not")

The president doesnt lie
Nope. He sleeps hanging upside down like a bat. Never lies down.

BTW, WHERE'S THE GUMDROP TREE HE PROMISED ME?!?!

You never answered this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10610706&postcount=176) post.

You said that peak oil is "liberal lies," yet there is a US ARMY report which confirms the theory. Thus, you are implying that the US Army is a "lying liberal."

But you never replied to the post. I'm guessing you didn't read it, much like you didn't read my post until I used size 24 font to get your attention.

So go ahead, prove me wrong. Prove how the US Army is a lying liberal. I'll wait. Go on.
The US army is not a lying liberal, however I think on this one they have their facts wrong.

The president doesnt lie

NEVER? You mean he never lied about - oooh, lets pluck a random example out of the air - his National Service? His cocaine useage? Did he never get his underlings to lie about John McCain's alleged black baby? No?

HELLO EARTH CALLING US ABASSADORSHIP. YOU SEEM TO BE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET TO US.

Nope. He sleeps hanging upside down like a bat. Never lies down.

BTW, WHERE'S THE GUMDROP TREE HE PROMISED ME?!?!
he never promised gumdrop trees so you can stop with your crazy talk

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!


Best. Post. Ever.

Indeed. It's sigged. And then changed. He's on a roll today.

wait, we found WMD in a taco bell in Iraq? I knew it, see this is what the left wing media doesnt report on.

Ooooh - it shows sign of a sense of humour. Possible deriva tion of intelligence perhaps?

he never promised gumdrop trees so you can stop with your crazy talk
Yes he did. I saw it on the news. He said "Every American family will get a free gumdrop tree in rememberance of 9/11. We're doing this because if Americans can't enjoy fresh gumdrops straight from the tree the terrorists win."

I guess the terrorists have won.

he never promised gumdrop trees so you can stop with your crazy talk

God, now he's denying the gumdrop trees.

Jesus, didn't you see it? IT WAS ALL OVER CNN FOR WEEKS!

The US army is not a lying liberal, however I think on this one they have their facts wrong.

Right. So when you said "those are all liberal lies", you were WRONG.

I have proven you wrong. Do you acknowledge this, or are you gonna ignore it and try to cover your ass like a 4 year old in Michael Jacksons shower stall?

wait, we found WMD in a taco bell in Iraq? I knew it, see this is what the left wing media doesnt report on.

Rofl. Copter. Yeah, mostly Rofl.

10 for stupidity, 10 for originality.

The UN abassadorship, you remain a liar.

he never promised gumdrop trees so you can stop with your crazy talk

The fact you could not recognise something that ridiculous as sarcasm proves that you are stupid.

Indeed. It's sigged. And then changed. He's on a roll today.
I think the other post was better... the one you sigged is lacking context. But meh, it's your sig after all.

Rofl. Copter. Yeah, mostly Rofl.

10 for stupidity, 10 for originality.

The UN abassadorship, you remain a liar.
um, whats so funny and how am I a liar?

Right. So when you said "those are all liberal lies", you were WRONG.

I have proven you wrong. Do you acknowledge this, or are you gonna ignore it and try to cover your ass like a 4 year old in Michael Jacksons shower stall?
no I said global warming are liberal lies, point still stands your wrong

um, whats so funny and how am I a liar?

You are a liar and you know very well why. We had lengthy discussions about torture and other human rights issues. You ended up saying we were right. Clearly, you lied. Therefore, you are a liar.

It's funny because you completely misinterpreted the post, just like you misspelled your name and can never seem to properly phrase All your posts in a coherent manner.

The post meant: Taco Bell (the ones in the USA) have more WMDs than Iraq.

It didn't meant: Iraq had a Taco Bell in which WMDs were found.

Also the fact that you would believe such a statement at face value is amazing.

But having said that, I have this bow and arrow here that'll kill a terrorist from 1000 miles away. I'll sell it for 2 million dollars, okay?

no I said global warming are liberal lies, point still stands your wrong
Right. The world isn't warming up. Jeezus would cool it off so humans could continue living here. Just like when he killed off the dinosaurs with a big flood because they were eating all the Israelite babies.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.
My thoughts are that the Presidents poll numbers suggest that opposing the president is not the same thing as opposing the will of the American People. I listen to "conservative" talk radio every morning and afternoon and am in awe of the number of conservatives calling in and saying, "Whoops. Sorry 'bout that. He fooled me when I voted for him. I'm surre I'm sorry and it won't happen again if we live through his presidency."

no I said global warming are liberal lies, point still stands your wrong

Incorrect. I see you're going with option, "ignore and try to cover my ass like Sean Penn in a federal penitentiary."

Look again. This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10601673&postcount=37) post you responded to said:

What are you talking out of here?

Of course we need alternatives to fossil fuels. I hate to break it to you but they are finite. Oil will most likly run out before the end of this century if demand keeps increasing at the rate it is. Coal and gas may last the next century or too but we need to start thinking about the altentatives now rather than all the way down the line then.


Your response consisted of this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10601686&postcount=40) post, which said:

those are just liberal lies, oil is going to be around for a very long time.

Therefore you were NOT referring to Global Warming, you were referring to oil and how anyone who points out oil is finite is a liberal liar. Therefore you are LYING RIGHT NOW in your post.

You have been PROVEN WRONG.

Admit it.... or do you not have the BALLS to admit it when you've been WTFPWNED?

Id appreciate if you wouldnt misspell my name, Im not a "her" and Im not being silly, Im trying to have a serious decision so please. I love liberals cant beat my arguments how they just go "oh he must be a troll" jeessh

Thats not your name which you already misspelled anyway. You aren't a he or a she actually. Teenagers don't have a sex because they aren't allowed to have any. Therefore gumdrop trees or not, you only get a third of the $10 mom gave us to split so :p

So, Micheal Bolton, I mean, "The UN abassadorship," I was wondering if you could tell me what's conservative about the Bush admin that has nothing to do with war. I ask, because, as someone who grew up listening to the conservative mantra of fiscal responsibility and smaller government and states rights I'm just wondering why they have now become pro debt, pro big overnment and anti-states rights.

I love those bolded huge caps :p

The fact you could not recognise something that ridiculous as sarcasm proves that you are stupid.
[and all the other people insulting UNA]

Don't flame the troll, people. It just makes you a troll yourselves.

Thats not your name which you already misspelled anyway. You aren't a he or a she actually. Teenagers don't have a sex because they aren't allowed to have any. Therefore gumdrop trees or not, you only get a third of the $10 mom gave us to split so :p
Sumamba, WTF are you high on right now? And where can I get some? You're reminding me eerily of my own surrealist short stories now, and that's not good.

I love those bolded huge caps :p

I'll wager I'm slightly harder for him to ignore that way.

[and all the other people insulting UNA]

Don't flame the troll, people. It just makes you a troll yourselves.

Question:
I have proof that he is a liar judging from a former thread where he agreed that torture and so on were bad after a lengthy discussion.

Can I call him a liar then without it being flaming? That is, in every post?

Question:
I have proof that he is a liar judging from a former thread where he agreed that torture and so on were bad after a lengthy discussion.

Can I call him a liar then without it being flaming? That is, in every post?

No. That's griefing.

Incorrect. I see you're going with option, "ignore and try to cover my ass like Sean Penn in a federal penitentiary."

Look again. This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10601673&postcount=37) post you responded to said:




Your response consisted of this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10601686&postcount=40) post, which said:



Therefore you were NOT referring to Global Warming, you were referring to oil and how anyone who points out oil is finite is a liberal liar. Therefore you are LYING RIGHT NOW in your post.

You have been PROVEN WRONG.

Admit it.... or do you not have the BALLS to admit it when you've been WTFPWNED?
Alright let me say this, the army if that really is your source(I havent seen proof) just got it wrong on this one.

No. That's greifing.

Stupid question:
What's greifing?

So, Micheal Bolton, I mean, "The UN abassadorship," I was wondering if you could tell me what's conservative about the Bush admin that has nothing to do with war. I ask, because, as someone who grew up listening to the conservative mantra of fiscal responsibility and smaller government and states rights I'm just wondering why they have now become pro debt, pro big overnment and anti-states rights.
thats not the type of conservative Im talking about Im talking about the good kind, neoconservativeism

Alright let me say this, the army if that really is your source(I havent seen proof) just got it wrong on this one.
Liar! Blasphemer! The Army can't "get it wrong". The Army is always right. What are you, some kind of commie muhammedan terrorist scumbag? Don't question the judgement of the Army of the USA!

thats not the type of conservative Im talking about Im talking about the good kind, neoconservativeism
The kind that knows kung fu and dodges bullets?

Stupid question:
What's greifing?
A misspelled version of griefing.

[Look it up in the One Stop Rule Shop. There's a link from the newbie's guide in my sig. Too lazy to actually find it myself.]

Alright let me say this, the army if that really is your source(I havent seen proof) just got it wrong on this one.

But you are not saying they are "liberal lies" now eh?

So you were WRONG.

So you should admit it to like a man does when he's made a false statement.

Here (http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=A440265&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf) is the actual report. I'm sure you know better than US Army researchers though, right?

Question:
I have proof that he is a liar judging from a former thread where he agreed that torture and so on were bad after a lengthy discussion.

Can I call him a liar then without it being flaming? That is, in every post?
No, I just got tried of fighting you people so I gave in, I never changed my position

Sumamba, WTF are you high on right now? And where can I get some? You're reminding me eerily of my own surrealist short stories now, and that's not good.


High back! You can't have any because contributing to the delenquency of a Czardas is a capital idea, that I take offense to.

No, I just got tried of fighting you people so I gave in, I never changed my position
So you're a defeatist? There's no room for your kind in the new America. Since you surrender so easily I hereby proclaim that you are French.

thats not the type of conservative Im talking about Im talking about the good kind, neoconservativeism
Great. So, exactly what do neoconservatives stand for in regards to, say, fiscal policy? What are you feeling on the natioal debt? Too high? Doesn't matter? Taxes? Budget ceiling? Foriegn ownership of American debt?

God, now he's denying the gumdrop trees.

Jesus, didn't you see it? IT WAS ALL OVER CNN FOR WEEKS!
I dont watch that liberal propaganda machine

A misspelled version of griefing.

Bah!

And griefing:

Griefing: Harrassing a nation because of what they did or said. This often manifests when one player follows another around in thread after thread, abusing and flaming the target nation. Note that this is distinct from Region Griefing, covered above.

Great. So, exactly what do neoconservatives stand for in regards to, say, fiscal policy? What are you feeling on the natioal debt? Too high? Doesn't matter? Taxes? Budget ceiling? Foriegn ownership of American debt?
the deficiet aint important in a time of war

I dont watch that liberal propaganda machine
Nevermind CNN. It was on Fox and also in the National Review. Also in the newsletter of the John Birch society and the KKK newsletter.

So you're a defeatist? There's no room for your kind in the new America. Since you surrender so easily I hereby proclaim that you are French.
your wrong, sorry

I dont watch that liberal propaganda machine

Yeah, sorry, forgot it's editorial board was Cindy Sheehan, Mikey Moore and Alec Baldwin, my bad.

Nevermind CNN. It was on Fox and also in the National Review. Also in the newsletter of the John Birch society and the KKK newsletter.
oh, must I have missed it

the deficiet aint important in a time of war
Right! And since the GWOT will be going on for at least the next five decades, the deficit won't be important until at least 2055.

Nevermind CNN. It was on Fox and also in the National Review. Also in the newsletter of the John Birch society and the KKK newsletter.

I believe the KKK newsletter lead with "them nigras better not expect one, we still owe them 40 acres and a mule, and we ain't paying!"

But you are not saying they are "liberal lies" now eh?

So you were WRONG.

So you should admit it to like a man does when he's made a false statement.

Here (http://stinet.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=A440265&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf) is the actual report. I'm sure you know better than US Army researchers though, right?
I dont know whether that report was baised to show a certian point of view

your wrong, sorry
So you're denying that you're French? While on US territory? That makes you a spy! Get the hood and genital electrodes ready. We've got someone new to interrogate!

Bah!

And griefing:

I guess that means I can't do it?

*shrug*

I've done it enough for my own satisfaction :D

the deficiet aint important in a time of war
Of course not, because wars support themselves financially, and maintaining equipment and soldiers is always completely free.

I believe the KKK newsletter lead with "them nigras better not expect one, we still owe them 40 acres and a mule, and we ain't paying!"
Actually it mentioned giving them the trees and some rope too, but I'd rather not talk about that.

the deficiet aint important in a time of war
But we're not talking about funding a war. The war is off the books so it is not figured in. According to the administration the war has cost to date about $400 billion but under Bush the debt has grown by nearly $4 trillion. The biggest expenditures are domestic entitlements that have grown by nearly 50% under Bush including the creation of the new prescription drug plan that has already cost 4 times what the admin said it would when they pushed it through.

So you're a defeatist? There's no room for your kind in the new America. Since you surrender so easily I hereby proclaim that you are French.

How dare you insult the French :p I wouldn't even call this... thing... American.

Okay, enough with the jokes :p but point is, he did claim that we were right. That's essentially saying: I agree with you.

Therefore, he is a liar, I mean, you can't say: "You're right." And then go off to say "Oh, but I never actually thought you were right."

Unless you're a politician of course.

Actually it mentioned giving them the trees and some rope too, but I'd rather not talk about that.

Yeah, well, that never happened in the glorious US of A, only foreign types do that sort of thing. US Abassodorship told me so. J Edgar Hoover told him, whilst playing canasta. On a rocket to the moon, with Elvis.

How dare you insult the French :p I wouldn't even call this... thing... American.

Okay, enough with the jokes :p but point is, he did claim that we were right. That's essentially saying: I agree with you.

Therefore, he is a liar, I mean, you can't say: "You're right." And then go off to say "Oh, but I never actually thought you were right."

Unless you're a politician of course.
Well, someone in another thread said that they believed he's actually George W. Bush.

Yeah, well, that never happened in the glorious US of A, only foreign types do that sort of thing. US Abassodorship told me so. J Edgar Hoover told him, whilst playing canasta. On a rocket to the moon, with Elvis.
Exactly! It's all liberal lies and propaganda from the opponents of our Lord and Saviour, George W. Bush! WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!

Exactly! It's all liberal lies and propaganda from the opponents of our Lord and Saviour, George W. Bush! WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH!

HORSES FOR COURSES! APPLES AND PEARS! LOVE IS HATE! GET YOUR LIGHTERS, 5 FOR A QUID! EVENING SENTINEEEEEL! CHEAP AS CHIPS!

I once knew a man who - at no prompting - would burst into the chorus - but not the WORDS of the chorus, oh no, just the "DURR DURR DURR DURR, DURR DURR DURR DURR" style noises - from Dexy's Midnight Runners classic hit "Jacky Wilson Said". In the middle of a crowded bar. During quiz night. Repeatedly, for the entire evening.

In a funny kind of way, i feel like i have met his spiritual child today, and his name is US Abassodorship.

I dont know whether that report was baised to show a certian point of view

Unless you can *show* that the US Army Corps of Engineers is biased - and specifically, LYING and LIBERAL - you are WRONG.
Admit it already. It's making you look even dumber than usual. Grow a pair and admit it when you've made a stupid, incorrect statement.

Now we see phase two: ignore it. He's tried lying, that doesn't work.

Usually, people who rant on about "liberals" at least have the balls to back up their statements.

Ann Coulter, for example. She's got balls.

The UN Ambassadorship? Testicle-less.

Now we see phase two: ignore it. He's tried lying, that doesn't work.

Usually, people who rant on about "liberals" at least have the balls to back up their statements.

Ann Coulter, for example. She's got balls.

The UN Ambassadorship? Testicle-less.
How dare you! I have Big Balls, sir.

How dare you! I have Big Balls, sir.
I guess you'd have to in order to say some of the things you've posted on this forum.

Unless you can *show* that the US Army Corps of Engineers is biased - and specifically, LYING and LIBERAL - you are WRONG.
Admit it already. It's making you look even dumber than usual. Grow a pair and admit it when you've made a stupid, incorrect statement.
I dont know who gave funding for the test, so you cant show it wasnt baised

Don't flame the troll, people. It just makes you a troll yourselves.

Sorry, I guess I got carried away.
It's just so irritating when someone can't admit thhey're wrong and resort to denying arguements with no reasoning.

Question for U.N. abassadorship:
Do you think that George Bush is always right in everything he does?

Question for U.N. abassadorship:
Do you think that George Bush is always right in everything he does?
Question for you: Do you know that even asking questions about whether our president is right or wrong is unpatriotic?

How dare you! I have Big Balls, sir.

In your mouth. That doesn't count.

I dont know who gave funding for the test, so you cant show it wasnt baised

I can't show God ISN'T a giant pink bunny rabbit either. Does that mean I've proven God is a giant pink bunny rabbit? (Hint: the answer is no)

Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence.

It's up to you to prove that the US Army Corps of Engineers is lying, and liberal.

YOU CANT DO IT. PERIOD.

THEREFORE YOUR STATEMENT IS WRONG.

YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Quit lying to everyone just because you can't fucking face the truth. It makes you look like a dipshit.

Question for you: Do you know that even asking questions about whether our president is right or wrong is unpatriotic?
thank you, dont question the president

In your mouth. That doesn't count.



I can't show God ISN'T a giant pink bunny rabbit either. Does that mean I've proven God is a giant pink bunny rabbit? (Hint: the answer is no)

Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence.

It's up to you to prove that the US Army Corps of Engineers is lying, and liberal.

YOU CANT DO IT. PERIOD.

THEREFORE YOUR STATEMENT IS WRONG.

YOU ARE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Quit lying to everyone just because you can't fucking face the truth. It makes you look like a dipshit.
No, your wrong, prove it

Question for you: Do you know that even asking questions about whether our president is right or wrong is unpatriotic?

I suppose he must always be right then, and will follow his will however crazy or immoral it seems - I wouldn't want to be unpatriotic. :)

thank you, dont question the president

Isn't that called a dictatorship?

No, your wrong, prove it


Prove that the US Army Corps of Engineers is a lying liberal.

Isn't that called a dictatorship?
no its called democracy

no its called democracy

So not questioning a president and allowing his will to be enforced without regard to others is democracy?

thank you, dont question the president
At least not without a hood and some genital-electrodes. We want to make sure we get all the information for the good of the country.

Isn't that called a dictatorship?
Only if you're some kind of pinko commie.

So not questioning a president and allowing his will to be enforced without regard to others is democracy?
That's pretty much the definition of democracy in any Patriot Act approved dictionary.

When did Colin Powell become a liberal?

When did Colin Powell become a liberal?

Bout the same time the US Army did, evidently.

I can't show God ISN'T a giant pink bunny rabbit either. Does that mean I've proven God is a giant pink bunny rabbit? (Hint: the answer is no)
Sigged. :D

So not questioning a president and allowing his will to be enforced without regard to others is democracy?
Of course, and anyone who says it really means "rule of the people" from Ancient Greek is a lying pinko commie liberal Bush-hating tree-hugging God-hating fag!!! (With apologies to Sarzonia and Fass.)

When did Colin Powell become a liberal?

He's always been a liberal (at least since he was a brigadier) but, a liberal under the definition of the term 30 years ago, and never anything resembling or supporting a leftist point of view.

So not questioning a president and allowing his will to be enforced without regard to others is democracy?
I dont see what the problem is

I dont see what the problem is

Problem is with what? A dictatorship? I thought you supported America, a land of democracy and freedom.

Problem is with what? A dictatorship? I thought you supported America, a land of democracy and freedom.
But America isn't a land of democracy and freedom. That's Canada, and anyone who thinks about Canada in a non-violent way is un-American and unpatriotic and should be tortured to death by being flogged, tasered on the broken skin, burned with a flamethrower on the area tasered, flogged again on the area burned, have their toenails and fingernails be pulled out, castrated, and thrown into a tank full of starving piranhas.

No, your wrong, prove it

Four words: Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

a few more: Thanks for an hour and a half of entertaining logical fallacies. Thanks also for the logical phalluses. It only goes to show: you have to have an education before you can have an educated opinion.

I guess you using your ignoring tactic again is a sign that you're wrong and know it but are too red-faced to admit it.

I accept your concession, The UN Ambassadorship. It was nice humiliating you, I just wish you weren't actually a 12 year old girl, then I'd feel more accomplished about it.

I would like to thank everyone here. Y'all have well and truly made my day. 16 pages of non-stop laughter, hoo-ee! Y'all keep fighting the man, now, ya hear? It's so funny I nearly pooped my poodipoopoos. Or something like that.

And The UN abassadorship, Sieg Heil!

But America isn't a land of democracy and freedom. That's Canada, and anyone who thinks about Canada in a non-violent way is un-American and unpatriotic and should be tortured to death by being flogged, tasered on the broken skin, burned with a flamethrower on the area tasered, flogged again on the area burned, have their toenails and fingernails be pulled out, castrated, and thrown into a tank full of starving piranhas.

I just liked the way he was contradicting himself by saying the U.S.A was a land of democracy and freedom, whilst not seeing a problem with a George Bush dicatorship. :D

Problem is with what? A dictatorship? I thought you supported America, a land of democracy and freedom.
thats right I do

thats right I do

So you support a dictatorship democracy?:confused:
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

thats right I do
The mighty fallacy we usually attribute to fascism.

So you support a dictatorship democracy?:confused:
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
Democracy gives the people the right to choose a righteous dictator like George W. Bush. Don't you trust the people to choose the government that best meets their needs? The people have chosen. They've chosen King George.

Im just wondering why people like Jane Fonda, Sean Penn, John McCain, and Colin Powell are so out of touch with America. They seem to oppose the President and the will of the American people at every turn. I mean are they trying to attack America? Your thoughts.


arguably the white rose movement were "out of touch" with the rest of Nazi Germany, didn't change the fact that they were right

arguably the white rose movement were "out of touch" with the rest of Nazi Germany, didn't change the fact that they were right
"Right" and "Wrong" are such subjective things. All that matters is the will of the people and the strength of the nation.

thank you, dont question the president

There's no way this is not a joke/puppet.

Ann Coulter, for example. She's got balls.

sigged :p

I think UN Ambassador's new nickname should be Palooka.

So you support a dictatorship democracy?:confused:
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
Im just saying theres a time and a place and when the country is at war or in crisis, its not the place nor the time.

Im just saying theres a time and a place and when the country is at war or in crisis, its not the place nor the time.
Exactly. Democracy and freedom must be done away with for now in order to protect and spread democracy and freedom. I just don't know why people don't understand this simple concept.

Exactly. Democracy and freedom must be done away with for now in order to protect and spread democracy and freedom. I just don't know why people don't understand this simple concept.
thank you, God. Liberals dont get it your the only sane person on here. But I wouldnt say all democracy and freedom but seriously "civil rights" can get in the way of fighting the war on terror. I love those people who will whine about having there phone tapped, but its like if you aint talking to a terrorist why are you worrying?

Democracy gives the people the right to choose a righteous dictator like George W. Bush. Don't you trust the people to choose the government that best meets their needs? The people have chosen. They've chosen King George.
Yeah, but now we've changed our minds. :(

arguably the white rose movement were "out of touch" with the rest of Nazi Germany, didn't change the fact that they were right
were they?

Yeah, but now we've changed our minds. :(
why?

thank you, God. Liberals dont get it your the only sane person on here. But I wouldnt say all democracy and freedom but seriously "civil rights" can get in the way of fighting the war on terror. I love those people who will whine about having there phone tapped, but its like if you aint talking to a terrorist why are you worrying?
Yeah. I have nothing to hide. When I'm having phone sex with underage gerbils I'm confident that the government isn't going to use those conversations against me because I'm not a muslim.

Yeah, but now we've changed our minds. :(
Listen, Bush was given the presidency by the people and we can't take it back. What are we, a nation of Indian givers? Indians, please don't answer that question.

I would like to thank everyone here. Y'all have well and truly made my day. 16 pages of non-stop laughter, hoo-ee! Y'all keep fighting the man, now, ya hear? It's so funny I nearly pooped my poodipoopoos. Or something like that.

And The UN abassadorship, Sieg Heil!

Dude if you like this you should so check his 'ban public schools' thread - it's topped 500 posts now, and that's 500 posts of sheer comic genius. Not wishing to spoil it, but I particularly loved the bit where China attacked Pearl Harbour. Hey - UN abassadorship said it, so it must be true :D

thank you, God. Liberals dont get it your the only sane person on here. But I wouldnt say all democracy and freedom but seriously "civil rights" can get in the way of fighting the war on terror. I love those people who will whine about having there phone tapped, but its like if you aint talking to a terrorist why are you worrying?

You need to be careful, you've had a couple posts in here that gave you away a little too much. It's ok to be absurdist with a troll-puppet, but you need to be careful not to cross the line into obviousness. Otherwise watching the responses just isn't as fun.

were they?
Yes, they were right to oppose a dictator who was committing genocide on three war fronts and within his own borders.

why?
Mostly because Karl Rove is a smart man. His clever use of the Chewbacca defense lulled a fat, happy America into thinking Bush was competent. His brilliance only goes so far, however. Ater Katrina and the debacle that is the Iraq war even Rove can't fool the public into thinking this emporer has clothes on. The bloom is off the rose and the only people left in his camp, people usually reduced to the "he's better than Kerry" defense, are the ideologically rigid, uneducted idiots that are his base of support. The Bush democrats and even the intelectual, educated conservatives have bailed on that horse.