NationStates Jolt Archive

Those of you who have been here for more than just a few months will recall the First and Second NationStates General elections. Both attracted a number of parties and voters, and led to an NS General Parliament. That Parliament, while active after the First elections, has fallen silent since the end of the Second.

With elections scheduled to take place in theory every four months, we're overdue for the Third event. Therefore, at the suggestion of a fellow member of the UDCP, I'm starting up the process.

This thread is for parties to announce their intention to take part in the election. The UDCP will, of course, be taking part.

For those of you new to all this, you can find more information in these threads:

* the thread that started it all (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418608) (contains information on starting your own party; please read it carefully, and especially this part (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9041641&postcount=170)!)
* the thread of the first election (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423271)
* the thread of the first Parliament (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424018)

= = = = =

Candidate parties so far:

* Anarchy at Any Cost Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472558) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472558))
* Democratic Socialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472567))
* Emphatically Silly Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431))
* Militant Leftist Party (formerly: Revolutionary Trotskyist Party)
* Mole and Other Burrowing Rodents’ Alliance
* New British Imperialist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10550585#post10550585) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10550585#post10550585))
* NS Classic Liberals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472875) (to be confirmed)
* NS Conservative Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473157) (manifesto (http://freeuploader.com/view.php/128389.pdf))
* Sarzonia Party (to be confirmed)
* Technocratic Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473274) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473274))
* United Democratic Communist Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610) (manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418610))

See also: this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472869) unofficial poll.

Long live Marxism! Long live the UDCP! Leftist parties of all types must unite (perhaps not officially, but a coalition must be made) to resits our capitalist opponents. All workers of the world unite! Let the political and economic left win this election!

Long live Marxism! Long live the UDCP! Leftist parties of all types must unite (perhaps not officially, but a coalition must be made) to resits our capitalist opponents. All workers of the world unite! Let the political and economic left win this election!

Can a scientist like me join?

I would like to create a party, but I don't really have the time to write a manifesto or campaign (despite what amount of time spent on nationstates may imply...).

The NSCP will be standing again and I'll get all the details for you when I get back. So put our name up there anyway.

NS Conservative Party

In the absence of the NBIP, and any inclination to refound it, you may consider me on board for the present.

I think I speak for all of us at the UDCP when I say all who have an earnest desire to promote communism and agree with out manifesto are welcome to join.

Can I run as an independent?

*tag -- not as though I need to, this'll stay at the top of the forum as though it's been filled with helium*

Still trying to decide between DSP & NSCL, m'self. UDCP is third down the list, sorry everyone.

For relative election newbies: what is the traditional party of choice of self-confessed chickenshit liberals?

I would like to create a party, but I don't really have the time to write a manifesto or campaign (despite what amount of time spent on nationstates may imply...).

Sorry, you do need a manifesto, and more than one member. The mods don't really want too many threads popping up all over the place, from what I gather.


Can I run as an independent?

Hmmm... We've never had anyone ask that before. Though there is one precedent, sort of. Melkor founded a party that was in many ways him as an independent, and I allowed it because his manifesto/platform was centred on him making no compromise to other people's ideals. It was called, at first, the "Up yours!" Party.

The problem if we allow independents, though, is that people may try to run as independents simply to get around the rule which says there have to be at least two people to start a party.

Also, it's established practice that you vote for a party, not individuals. The identity of MPs is only decided *after* the election.

So I'd prefer it if you found someone willing to start up a party with you.

Please consider the UDCP, communism is about economic morality and compassion. If more people decide it can work, it WILL. The workers of the world have nothing to lose but their chains!

Can a scientist like me join?

Of course! Welcome to the Party. :)

Feel free to post in the UDCP thread to say you're joining.

The NSCP will be standing again and I'll get all the details for you when I get back. So put our name up there anyway.


Done. Welcome back to the fray!


For relative election newbies: what is the traditional party of choice of self-confessed chickenshit liberals?

Hmm... If you mean "liberal" in a European/Australian sense, probably the NS Classic Liberals, or Melkor's "Up yours!" Party (which has been renamed, but I can't remember its new name). If you mean it in the American sense, probably the Democratic Socialist Party.

Sorry, you do need a manifesto, and more than one member. The mods don't really want too many threads popping up all over the place, from what I gather.

I know. I meant that in more of a "it's a shame I can't do this, but never mind" way, rather than a "can you make an exception for me?" kind of way.

Most "liberals" in America are actually pretty conservative, many dislike socialism as much as conservatives.

I'll probably go with the NSCL or the Reason Party (that's the "Up yours!" party's new name, btw) ... they seem the most sensible and closest to my ideology, at least in theory.

I'll have to wait for the manifestos though.

I am not interested in starting up the NSCL this time around.

thanks aridd :)

its a shame that DHomme isn't as active as he once was - i wonder if the RTP will have as much of a presence as usual (or at least such a nutty presence as usual :p)


and vote UDCP! the only party to have the blessings of an official NS deity! :D

I am not interested in starting up the NSCL this time around.

I'd take over some of the work if you'd need it. I wouldn't mind joining a party once and for all.

I'm looking to actually try out the Technocratic Party again this time, if people are interested in joining.

I've come up with a new party, its called the freedom centre party. We are a strictly secular party that supports stem cells, abortion rights, and gay marriage. We also support legalization of many drugs. The party supports low taxes and the reduction of Government size. However, unlike the Libertarian Party we support government regulation of the environment and mantaining certian social programs like min. wage and public education while scaling back things like welfare and social security. Anyone interested please post.

I've come up with a new party, its called the freedom centre party...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418666

Seems sorta similar.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418666

Seems sorta similar.
I think my party is a lot different

*sits and waits for the tink party*


Voted for 'em last time.

If Carops reappears with the ESP and it's watch-hamster colin, I shall rejoin the most pointless party in existence. If not, I might actually re-read the manifestos and find the closest fit.

Watch the Nation States Conservative Party take a plurality again! Reject communism and their corrupt system of stealing from those who earn. Support freedom, democracy, and the right to keep what you earn- Support the NSCP!

Abolish Parliament!

No to the Hustings!

Representations belong in Art Museums!

Down with all organization, everywhere!

I could go on...

I seek to start a Libertarian party. Is there anyone else interested?

I seek to start a Libertarian party. Is there anyone else interested?
Moi.

Moi.

Any experience with starting a party?

I'd take over some of the work if you'd need it. I wouldn't mind joining a party once and for all.

That would be just fine. I offer some support, if necessary.

Any experience with starting a party?
None whatsoever. :p

I seek to start a Libertarian party. Is there anyone else interested?
There already is one or two. Join one of them.

Personally, I'm interested in starting an Anarchy at Any Cost Party. It would focus around the idea of rejecting ideologies and support policies that would effectively destroy the power of the government.

Thus, society either completely polarizes between the capitalists and the proletariat, spawning a revolution that will eventually lead to anarcho-communism or the free market allows the continuation of a middle class, eventually resulting in anarcho-capitalism as the job of governments are taken over by individuals and businesses.

The party would emphasize that either version of anarchy is good for humanity and try not to favor one over the other

I seek to start a Libertarian party. Is there anyone else interested?

I would recommend checking out both the NSCL and The Reason Party, they are both established and very close to libertarian.

What's the statist party?

There already is one or two. Join one of them.

Personally, I'm interested in starting an Anarchy at Any Cost Party. It would focus around the idea of rejecting ideologies and support policies that would effectively destroy the power of the government.

Thus, society either completely polarizes between the capitalists and the proletariat, spawning a revolution that will eventually lead to anarcho-communism or the free market allows the continuation of a middle class, eventually resulting in anarcho-capitalism as the job of governments are taken over by individuals and businesses.

The party would emphasize that either version of anarchy is good for humanity and try not to favor one over the other
That sounds quite good, although if Melkor runs, you will have to dig that picture up again.

although if Melkor runs, you will have to dig that picture up again.
Of course.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/184/dsp1bj6nd.jpg

Enough with job outsourcing!

___, you're it.

although, like Czardas said, this'll probably stay on the front page.

I wonder if Eut will start up the Party of Whatever Works again.

That was the only party worth a damn, if you ask me. :D

Personally, I'm interested in starting an Anarchy at Any Cost Party.
hehehehe reminds me of TIN's old Party Of Order :p
"order at any cost!"

Yeah!
Expect MOBRA!

That would be just fine. I offer some support, if necessary.

Is the thread for the NSCL in the archive, or will I have to search General for it?

I'm assuming you have a party forum, so unless it's included in the platform thread, I'll need the link.

It is the conservatives who don't reward labor! You may call it "unskilled labor" but it must be done for "skilled labor" to even exist. A bunch of engineers and businessmen can't do anything for society when there's no food or basic industry, things that result from the toil of the average worker! If you claim to be democratic, support the working class majority and vote UDCP! Democracy is the road to socialism.

Long live Marxism! Long live the UDCP! Leftist parties of all types must unite (perhaps not officially, but a coalition must be made) to resits our capitalist opponents. All workers of the world unite! Let the political and economic left win this election!

Oh heavens no, not those evil commies! or is that liberals?

I was thinking of renaming the RTP the "United Democratic Militant Communist Party". Just to confuse people.

Now that you're here Comrade, could we please agree that whoever wins, all leftist groups should be more unified in the next parliament? I know we all have our differences, but we're both communist groups and it would be in the best interests of the NS communist movement to at least try to work together and simultaneously promote important issues regarding mostly the economy and proposed political structures. Could we please listen to Marx's words and unite (maybe not officially, but at least strengthening our diplomatic relations between the parties)? We should be working with each other not constantly arguing. Long live communism! Vote UDCP Comrades!

No, vote NSCP!

We span populism, libertarianism and conservatism, everyone wins except liberals and commies.

Well, I've read the starting threads, and I'd thought about starting a party, if I can get a Second. It would be the Boring Party, of centrists and non-radicals, mainly focussed on democracy and not giving way to ideologues and extremists. I have a manifesto, of sorts. But my question is: are we assuming to run a nation, and if so, which? USA? Any nation? A micronation? This would obviously be important in determining various policies.

The Sarzonia Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424533). "Sensible policies for a nonsensical world."
Symbol: The crab.

We hereby stand for election.

Is the thread for the NSCL in the archive, or will I have to search General for it?

I'm assuming you have a party forum, so unless it's included in the platform thread, I'll need the link.

You can find the thread by searching for it, I think there are a couple good ones.

As for the forum, I will have to do some searching.

I've come up with a new party, its called the freedom centre party. We are a strictly secular party that supports stem cells, abortion rights, and gay marriage. We also support legalization of many . The party supports low taxes and the reduction of Government size. However, unlike the Libertarian Party we support government regulation of the environment and mantaining certian social programs like min. wage and public education while scaling back things like welfare and social security. Anyone interested please post.

Sounds interesting. If nobody else has anything that suits me better, I'll join.

But my question is: are we assuming to run a nation, and if so, which? USA? Any nation? A micronation? This would obviously be important in determining various policies.

Any nation. Not a micronation (since that would not face most of the issues macronations have to face), and not any real nation since people here in NS General come from all over.

I wonder if Eut will start up the Party of Whatever Works again.

That was the only party worth a damn, if you ask me. :D
I'd go for it.

Seeing as libertarian has been taken care of, I will start a Totaltarian party. The main problem will be writing a manifesto that indicates that the masses can't be trusted to take care of themselves without making it clear that they're being insulted.

This doesn't seem to be very popular at all this time around.

Seeing as libertarian has been taken care of, I will start a Totaltarian party. The main problem will be writing a manifesto that indicates that the masses can't be trusted to take care of themselves without making it clear that they're being insulted.
Why would you argue the point like that? If "the masses" are one thing, which is what Totalitarianism proposes, then it makes sense that someone plays the brains of it.

Start here:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html

If Carops reappears with the ESP and it's watch-hamster colin, I shall rejoin the most pointless party in existence. If not, I might actually re-read the manifestos and find the closest fit.
I don't think Carops posts much anymore, so I think, as the other ESP MP from the last election, I'll take over leadership in what I shall call a silly coup.
Though if I don't get much support for it, I'll form the Atheist NSer party. The only party for ANSers.

Any chance of seeing an analogue of the Constitution Party?
I want to vote for it, not run for it.

Now that you're here Comrade, could we please agree that whoever wins, all leftist groups should be more unified in the next parliament? I know we all have our differences, but we're both communist groups and it would be in the best interests of the NS communist movement to at least try to work together and simultaneously promote important issues regarding mostly the economy and proposed political structures. Could we please listen to Marx's words and unite (maybe not officially, but at least strengthening our diplomatic relations between the parties)? We should be working with each other not constantly arguing. Long live communism! Vote UDCP Comrades!

We'll work with you when it's necessary.

Until then

Fight Menshevism!

In the absence of the NBIP, and any inclination to refound it, you may consider me on board for the present.
I'll start the NBIP up,...again.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10550585#post10550585
The New British Imperial Party is ready to go!

Sounds interesting. If nobody else has anything that suits me better, I'll join.
cool

OMGOMGOMG! *tells P diddy*

Okay, Im going to restart the RTP but under a new name.

Goodbye 'Revolutionary Trotskyist Party'

Hello 'Militant Leftist Party'

I feel it gives us a broader appeal. Even if you aren't a Trotskyist you can find solace in a party that opposes capitalism and recognises the need for a revolution.

We'll post a manifesto soon.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10550585#post10550585
The New British Imperial Party is ready to go!

Bloody good show viceroy

Wow, lots of new parties this time around.

Bumpity Bump Bump

Okay, Im going to restart the RTP but under a new name.

Goodbye 'Revolutionary Trotskyist Party'

Hello 'Militant Leftist Party'

I feel it gives us a broader appeal. Even if you aren't a Trotskyist you can find solace in a party that opposes capitalism and recognises the need for a revolution.

We'll post a manifesto soon.

Will it still be Leninist?

I don't really believe in the power of NS General Parliament anymore. What, for example, would stop me from rallying the people and overthrowing the NS General Parliament? Nothing, that's right.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

I don't really believe in the power of NS General Parliament anymore. What, for example, would stop me from rallying the people and overthrowing the NS General Parliament? Nothing, that's right.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!What would you put in its place?

Will it still be Leninist?

If you mean will we follow a democratic centralist model then yes. Yes we will.

What would you put in its place?

Technically it doesn't matter, since there'd be little way to prevent another coup from overthrowing it.

Optimally, I'd put Melkor Unchained up for Dictator though.

He doesn't seem to post much though, so I'd have to choose myself as Vice Dictator and Head of Government just so the ship isn't totally rudderless.

Then I'd outlaw women's clothing, since fully clothed women are frustrating, and thus it causes stress, and stress is a potentially lethal health hazard.

Technically it doesn't matter, since there'd be little way to prevent another coup from overthrowing it.

Optimally, I'd put Melkor Unchained up for Dictator though.

He doesn't seem to post much though, so I'd have to choose myself as Vice Dictator and Head of Government just so the ship isn't totally rudderless.

Then I'd outlaw women's clothing, since fully clothed women are frustrating, and thus it causes stress, and stress is a potentially lethal health hazard.Even for ugly women? Or are there no ugly women?

If you mean will we follow a democratic centralist model then yes. Yes we will.

Oh the irony, possibly the greatest oxymoron on earth, democratic centralism.

I don't really believe in the power of NS General Parliament anymore. What, for example, would stop me from rallying the people and overthrowing the NS General Parliament? Nothing, that's right.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
i'm leaning toward this option. kill everybody... woohoo!!

Even for ugly women? Or are there no ugly women?

That's a good point. We'd have to make an exception for ugly women. We'd create an Administrative Panel to officially declare those who are ugly and therefore exempt. This Panel would consist of... me.

You have some good ideas so far. Maybe you could be the NS General of the NS General Dictatorship. Can I trust you with smiley weapons?

Oh the irony, possibly the greatest oxymoron on earth, democratic centralism.

Right, let's show you how we make an argument.
An argument is composed of a reason followed by a conclusion.
Here we have a conclusion (democratic centralism is an oxymoron) but we have no reasoning that leads to it.
Suprising? No. It's what I expect of people who don't know anything about leninism

Right, let's show you how we make an argument.
An argument is composed of a reason followed by a conclusion.
Here we have a conclusion (democratic centralism is an oxymoron) but we have no reasoning that leads to it.
Suprising? No. It's what I expect of people who don't know anything about leninism

Ah, incidentally, I do. I merely anticipated an ardent communist to be similarly aware of the inherent hypocrisy to the term insofar as democracy rather implies, both in operation and implication, the rule of the people. However democractic centralism requires a decision to made by, originally, the executive committee of approximately 30, and later, Sovnarkom, and the yet smaller Politburo, both of which comprised less than 10 members, and universally accepeted subsequently as policy by the party members, an authoritative streak further compounded by the ban on factions of 1921.

That's a good point. We'd have to make an exception for ugly women. We'd create an Administrative Panel to officially declare those who are ugly and therefore exempt. This Panel would consist of... me. Though if the nation's stress level is too high, perhaps we could just give everybody soma?

You have some good ideas so far. Maybe you could be the NS General of the NS General Dictatorship. Can I trust you with smiley weapons?Hmm, an interesting idea. Let me ponder.

Ah, incidentally, I do. I merely anticipated an ardent communist to be similarly aware of the inherent hypocrisy to the term insofar as democracy rather implies, both in operation and implication, the rule of the people. However democractic centralism requires a decision to made by, originally, the executive committee of approximately 30, and later, Sovnarkom, and the yet smaller Politburo, both of which comprised less than 10 members, and universally accepeted subsequently as policy by the party members, an authoritative streak further compounded by the ban on factions of 1921.

What a suprise.
Using a historical example from a time when the newly formed workers' state was under attack.
Thats an accurate reflection of Leninist theory.

Oh no, wait, sorry. I was being sarcastic. Try actually learning even a tiny bit of basic information about democratic centralism here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism)

What a suprise.
Using a historical example from a time when the newly formed workers' state was under attack.
Thats an accurate reflection of Leninist theory.

Oh no, wait, sorry. I was being sarcastic. Try actually learning even a tiny bit of basic information about democratic centralism here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_centralism)

However, the original principle was extolled in, oh yes, 1902, when eminent Bolsheviks were in exile and liberation, and yet the machinations remained the same.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/143/revolutionaries5ni.jpg

However, the original principle was extolled in, oh yes, 1902, when eminent Bolsheviks were in exile and liberation, and yet the machinations remained the same.

Ill be honest, I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. Because they were in exile (how they liberated in exile?) they are somehow doomed to make flawed theories? Yeah. That makes a whole lot of sense.

Ill be honest, I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. Because they were in exile (how they liberated in exile?) they are somehow doomed to make flawed theories? Yeah. That makes a whole lot of sense.

Sorry. I was more implying that the theory was both formed, and implemented, in a period when its proponents were safe in exile.

"Even if you aren't a Trotskyist you can find solace in a party that opposes capitalism and recognises the need for a revolution."

You call us Mensheviks, and yet you turn your back on the name of Trotskyism. Stop telling us we're not real communists if you're changing the nature of your group to get more members...

I'd appreciate it if you treated the UDCP with more respect, and since you're trying to appeal to all leftists, we are the ally, not the enemy, we just have different views concerning the nature of the revolution. God, when will you realize that violence doesn't make the communist, the feeling of equality and public ownership makes one a communist.

Why would you argue the point like that? If "the masses" are one thing, which is what Totalitarianism proposes, then it makes sense that someone plays the brains of it.

Start here:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html

I was referring to the general masses part of the masses. And I have no exprience with good writing.

"How do you tell a Communist? It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. How do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who UNDERSTANDS Marx and Lenin"

NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY

"How do you tell a Communist? It's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. How do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who UNDERSTANDS Marx and Lenin"

Care to elaborate on this "understanding" you possess?

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/184/dsp1bj6nd.jpg

Health care is for patients, not for profit.

I'm looking to actually try out the Technocratic Party again this time, if people are interested in joining.

Well, seeing as my first thought was "Is there already a Technocratic Party around, or do I need to get some support for one?"... yep, you have at least one interested person.

Right, let's show you how we make an argument.
An argument is composed of a reason followed by a conclusion.
Here we have a conclusion (democratic centralism is an oxymoron) but we have no reasoning that leads to it.
Suprising? No. It's what I expect of people who don't know anything about leninism
All the cool communists are anarchists.

I've updated the list of participating parties in the OP.

Democratic Centralism (according to the CPUSA) is just that when a descision is made by voting, all members are oblidged to carry it out.

Does anybody want to join The Anarcho-Primitivist Party? Sure primitivism is a stupid idea but for it to truely work we would have to eliminate a large porportion of the worlds population with has to be worth it right?

"Even if you aren't a Trotskyist you can find solace in a party that opposes capitalism and recognises the need for a revolution."

You call us Mensheviks, and yet you turn your back on the name of Trotskyism. Stop telling us we're not real communists if you're changing the nature of your group to get more members...

I'd appreciate it if you treated the UDCP with more respect, and since you're trying to appeal to all leftists, we are the ally, not the enemy, we just have different views concerning the nature of the revolution. God, when will you realize that violence doesn't make the communist, the feeling of equality and public ownership makes one a communist.

I dont deny you're communists. I just enjoy taking the rip out of you for being so half-hearted and inconsistent in your theory. I know people who would actually deny that you're socialists, but I'm not that ultra-left so I'll leave it.

But you don't appeal to all leftists. Thats the point. Why should a revolutionary vote for a reformist party if he/she doesn't support what they stand for?

All I have tried to do is make the RTP broader to attract revolutionary socialists of all branches, and not just trotskyists. I thought it was unfair to be so exclusive with the name of the party and the MLP is perhaps more reflective of the people who will vote for it. I hope it still follows a trotskyist model, obviously, but it all depends on who the membership is and how they want our party run.

Democratic Centralism (according to the CPUSA) is just that when a descision is made by voting, all members are oblidged to carry it out.

Yup thats pretty much it. "Freedom of discussion, unity in action"

The ESP will be standing in the election.
Manifesto is here: ESP Manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431)

Vote British

http://www.bobnewell.net/nucleus/media/1/20050331-johnbull.jpg

WE WANT YOU

Democratic Labour Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472475)

I dont deny you're not communists. I just enjoy taking the rip out of you for being so half-hearted and inconsistent in your theory. How is the UDCP inconsistent in its theory?
I know people who would actually deny that you're socialistsThey'd be wrong.

How is the UDCP inconsistent in its theory?
With your drifting between calling capitalism evil and then subordinating yourselves to capitalist ideas and honouring capitalist nations.

OI, the NS General Election and Parliament is back? I think I may get in on this. If another moderate party hasn't sprung up, I think I'll try to make one. I'm going to need a good name and a manifesto. I'll look over stuff (mainly the old Whatever Works manifesto), make changes, and make a run at this.

It will probably end up being a moderate or slightly left-leaning manifesto. I dunno if I could get it totally moderate, as I've got a natural left-leaning bias I'm gonna have to fight.

But anyway, yeah I think I'm gonna try to get in on this.

Does anybody want to join The Anarcho-Primitivist Party? Sure primitivism is a stupid idea but for it to truely work we would have to eliminate a large porportion of the worlds population with has to be worth it right?
Just join my Anarchy at Any Cost Party. The manifesto will be up soon.

I dont deny you're not communists. I just enjoy taking the rip out of you for being so half-hearted and inconsistent in your theory. I know people who would actually deny that you're socialists, but I'm not that ultra-left so I'll leave it.

what is this... some kind of "i'm more left than you" competition? "my left-wing dick is bigger than yours"... :confused: :rolleyes:

our policies may seem strange to you but they weren't written for you. they were written as a peaceful and considered alternative to you and what you call 'true communism' (or whatever). we may be a mish-mash of different idologies, but its what we believe could work. is original thinking really that frowned-upon?

our policies may seem strange to you but they weren't written for you. they were written as a peaceful and considered alternative to you and what you call 'true communism' (or whatever). we may be a mish-mash of different idologies, but its what we believe could work. is original thinking really that frowned-upon?
Your words ring true especially since economic centralism isn’t original communism either.

Capitalism had its day. Remember the 1800's?
Don't Let it Happen Again
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I've come up with a new party, its called the freedom centre party. We are a strictly secular party that supports stem cells, abortion rights, and gay marriage. We also support legalization of many drugs. The party supports low taxes and the reduction of Government size. However, unlike the Libertarian Party we support government regulation of the environment and mantaining certian social programs like min. wage and public education while scaling back things like welfare and social security. Anyone interested please post.

I'm interested. The NS left and right are too far on either side for my tastes. A nice centralist pro liberty party is right up my alley.

what is this... some kind of "i'm more left than you" competition? "my left-wing dick is bigger than yours"... :confused: :rolleyes:

our policies may seem strange to you but they weren't written for you. they were written as a peaceful and considered alternative to you and what you call 'true communism' (or whatever). we may be a mish-mash of different idologies, but its what we believe could work. is original thinking really that frowned-upon?

Nothing wrong with original thinking.

Plenty wrong with utopian nonsense.

Nothing wrong with original thinking.

Plenty wrong with utopian nonsense.
Pot calling the kettle black :rolleyes:

Nothing wrong with original thinking.

Plenty wrong with utopian nonsense.

Utopian 'nonsense'? Just because the UDCP want to change via more peaceful notions than grabbing a gun and shooting anyone who doesn't agree with your point doesn't make their view 'Utopian nonsense'.

EDIT:Actually, thinking about it, what makes your violent revolution and mass murder that it would entail any better than what the capitalist corporations and governments do? Nothing, really - both claim it's for the best.

Plenty wrong with utopian nonsense.

Seen any Trotskyist revolutions lately?

Seen any Trotskyist revolutions lately?
I had one just yesterday in my backyard.

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Click the DSP Official Party Thread link in the signature for the manifesto.


To Ariddia: DSP will be running! ;)

Support Freedom and Democracy
SUPPORT
NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY

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Protect workers' rights and freedom.

Click the DSP Official Party Thread link in the signature for the manifesto (currently revising).

Undelia's Anarchy at Any Cost Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472558) meets the requirements.

so I'm considering starting a party with the following basic concepts...anyone interested/is there already one that exists that I've missed?

-focus on education
-fund research
-legalize alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, shrooms, and LSD (all relatively harmless and nonaddictive), regulate and tax the sale.
-social freedom
-economic freedom with minimal regulation
-Free minimum level health care, with private sector for additional benefits
-free education, base line healthcare, electricity, water, Internet

Utopian 'nonsense'? Just because the UDCP want to change via more peaceful notions than grabbing a gun and shooting anyone who doesn't agree with your point doesn't make their view 'Utopian nonsense'.

EDIT:Actually, thinking about it, what makes your violent revolution and mass murder that it would entail any better than what the capitalist corporations and governments do? Nothing, really - both claim it's for the best.
made all the worse when you consider that the vast majority of the populace simply aren't ready for communism. for me that's the biggest weakness in the RTP (or whatever they're called now) or any kind of revolutionary socialism: people like capitalism. forcing communism on them now can only be enforced through...well... enforcement: violent totalitarianism.
a vote for the MLP is a vote for this.

though i do think the in-fighting between us leftists is kinda stupid and petty - we should work together to attack our common enemy: the righties.

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Undelia's Anarchy at Any Cost Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472558) meets the requirements.

Indeed it does. Added.

To Ariddia: DSP will be running! ;)

Added.

There are now eight parties officially in the running.

Erm, I'll post this again. Can someone please add this to the list of parties running?

Democratic Labour Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472475)

Erm, I'll post this again. Can someone please add this to the list of parties running?

Democratic Labour Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472475)

That would be me, but your party doesn't meet the requirements. It seems to only have one member at present.

Damned if I let a good election die without argument.


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Hmmm...

Scanning the threads, and I'm not sure if any of the existing parties quite meet what I'm looking for...

1) Enshrining the principle of Democracy
2) Embracing the principles of Free Market Economics
3) Recognizing the use of the State by its member citizens;
i) to protect the economic interests of citizens
ii) to control and regulate natural resources for the benefit of citizens
iii) to create national education and health standards
4) Embrace the principle of civic duty
5) Embrace the complete separation of Church and State

My natural inclination is to lean conservative, but I do believe in some form of socialism, and dread the religious right.

So, who's out there?

The NSCPs official stuff:

Forum (http://www.hostmybb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=nscp)
Manifesto (http://freeuploader.com/view.php/128389.pdf) In pdf format.

Vote NSCP

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Say no to privatization of public services.

Click the DSP Official Party Thread link in the signature for the manifesto (currently revising). *Best viewed with "Show Images" enabled in your profile / User CP*

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Fight for it!
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Anybody want a DSP pin? :D

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Anybody want a DSP pin? :D

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Are they cheaper when you buy in bulk? *can pay in grain*


The MLP has t-shirts. :D

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That's right, they're 100% cotton!

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Defending woman's right to choose

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VOTE Utopia Unique Party!

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More teachers, smaller class sizes, better education.

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More teachers, smaller class sizes, better education.

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My god! Are you trying to brainwash NS general? :p
Every 3 posts is your banner.

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My god! Are you trying to brainwash NS general? :p
Every 3 posts is your banner.haha, sorry about it. I'll try to slow down a bit. :p

haha, sorry about it. I'll try to slow down a bit. :p
I'll catch up with you, sonny Jim. ;)

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I will always defend my properity! :D

properity! :D
Mmmm, sounds delicious.

I will always defend my properity! :D
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"PROPERITY" AND FREE SPELLING LESSONS FOR TORIES!!!

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ROFLMAO!!! :D

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Erm, I'll post this again. Can someone please add this to the list of parties running?

Democratic Labour Party (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472475)Incase you guys haven't notice, this party is a near copycat of DSP. :rolleyes:

How about this for a t-shirt.

I support freedom and democracy and all I had to do was vote

NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY

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Affordable public healthcare, not for-profit private healthcare.

Please visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

How about this for a t-shirt.

I support freedom and democracy and all I had to do was vote

NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY

Here You Go Mowers.
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NS Conservative Party

We are not the tories......

If that's all right with everyone, the election will start on Friday. That way, it will stretch over both week-end and several weekdays. It'll last five days.

Why doesn't it end on a weekend so that way we don't have to wait to get back from work.school to see the results.

NS Conservative Party
The only party to have actually submitted legislation this term :)

EMPHATICALLY SILLY PARTY

Does exactly what it says on the tin - we're silly, emphatic, and every day we're in power will be a party!
Our Manifesto (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472431)
- it involves jam!

Here You Go Mowers.
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Haha, nice, Antonio. It definately beats the commie shirt.

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Whose shirt beats whose now?:D

Whose shirt beats whose now?:D

The meter is all wrong, but the message is good.

The meter is all wrong, but the message is good.
Thank you.

Oh, and vote for the Militant Leftist Party.

bump

can we start debating issues please?:(

Progressive Technocratic Party: Let's just get things right this time

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bump

can we start debating issues please?:(
Okay

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:D

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because last time my gov't didn't give me a shirt for free!
hooray subsidizing!

I agree. We should start debating.


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because last time my gov't didn't give me a shirt for free!
hooray subsidizing!Hmm, maybe I should make it available by donation. This shirt is not made by some outsourced factory btw. I don't support outsourcing where workers literally earned nothing. Also outsourcing = + unemployment rates.

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Protecting our enviroment

Please visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

I invite the DSP representatives to a debate here, any issue of their choosing.

Notice how most of the ads have come from only two parties.

I invite the DSP representatives to a debate here, any issue of their choosing.

Notice how most of the ads have come from only two parties.Not just the two of us, the Conservatives frequently put theirs up too. Btw, I'm willing to participate in a debate but I also need another person, preferably Neu Leonstein. Do you know what, since we're both left-wing parties we should team up for a showdown against the Conservatives. Remember they got the most votes in the last election?

Women's Rights are a good topic, aren't they? :p

EDIT: Anyways, I'll be off to Uni...gotta learn more Econometrics...
Strange how I really don't like Math, but somehow regression analysis is just so neat, and it all falls into place so nicely, it's difficult not to warm to it.

A hot topic indeed. I'll join the debate later on, I gotta go walk my dog.

I'll be back in less than half an hour. ;)

Not just the two of us, the Conservatives frequently put theirs up too. Btw, I'm willing to participate in a debate but I also need another person, preferably Neu Leonstein. Do you know what, since we're both left-wing parties we should team up for a showdown against the Conservatives. Remember they got the most votes in the last election?
I really wish that DHomme were here since he's the Party head, but I guess we'll have to make do with what we have. The debate would be a good idea. Just get them over and we'll have a good ole' time.

I'm back. Holy shit, it's friggin snowing outside!!!

btw, LET'S HAVE THE DEBATE BEGIN!!!... oh wait a minute, everybody's offline.

*cough*

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Women's Rights are a good topic, aren't they? :p
The AACP fully supports the equality of men and women in the workplace and the right for women to choose as the natural condition of mankind.

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Defending women's rights

Unlike the NS Conservatives, DSP defends women's right to choose and the equality between the sexes.

Please visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

Candidate parties should check out this poll:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472869

Take this an opportunity to make some changes to your party's manifesto and the campaign style before the NS General Election. ;)

Well, seeing as my first thought was "Is there already a Technocratic Party around, or do I need to get some support for one?"... yep, you have at least one interested person.

OP, we now appear to make the requirements, unless someone has already made a Technocratic party. I've been off the forums for awhile, so I don't know whether I should have the manifesto out already, or whether I'm too late. Is stuff already starting?

This thing hasn't started right? And no other centrist party has come out of the woodworks yet, right? If so I'd like to still make one. If not, then I'd probably try to make an independent party. It would be a moderate party, but with balls.

Anarchy

It just makes sense.

Hey, here's a question. How come is it Arridia gets to just call these elections whenever he feels like? The last NS General Parliament was never disbanded, was it? And they didn't even get a chance to DO anything yet. Isn't this displaying an inordinate amount of power on his part, that he can form and re-form Parliament on a whim?

Who cares?

Who cares?
exactly

Who cares?
Agreed.

Who cares?

Well, cuz maybe it's a partisan attempt on Arridia's part to re-juggle the NS Parliament (which, last time, was perhaps not to his liking) more favorably. We could after all, just reconvene the "second" NS General Parliament and have the members of parliament decide when to have elections. That would be... parliamentary.

This way, it's sort of just shady, makes it seem like a sham system.

Well, cuz maybe it's a partisan attempt on Arridia's part to re-juggle the NS Parliament (which, last time, was perhaps not to his liking) more favorably. We could after all, just reconvene the "second" NS General Parliament and have the members of parliament decide when to have elections. That would be... parliamentary.

This way, it's sort of just shady, makes it seem like a sham system.
In case you haven’t noticed, it’s a mock election.

Besides, parties have done a terrible job of putting forth active MPs in the past. Nothing gets done anyway. Maybe this is an issue we can address in the next Parliament. You know, create a Prime Minister position who’s job is to handle the next election and to make sure that procedures are followed, but for now, Ariddia is in charge. Deal with it.

Hell, maybe if an executive position is at stake, MPs will be more, active, coalitions will be formed, and more will generally be “accomplished.”.

In case you haven’t noticed, it’s a mock election.

Yeah, but if that's the case why bother? Why have a mock election, parliament, parties etc if you're going to be half-assed about it? I mean damn... lets not have the parties then. It's not reeeeeeal therefore why bother?

Besides, parties have done a terrible job of putting forth active MPs in the past. Nothing gets done anyway. Maybe this is an issue we can address in the next Parliament. You know, create a Prime Minister position who’s job is to handle the next election and to make sure that procedures are followed, but for now, Ariddia is in charge. Deal with it.

That's the thing. Ariddia is NOT in charge. He's just an MP like everyone else. Technically the last Parliament is in charge still, no? Sure, he creates the threads, but I can create threads too... maybe the apathy you, VO2, the Chinese Republics feel can be cured with a mock coup and mock warring factions fighting in the capital and shooting the mock citizenry in the night eh?

That's the thing. Ariddia is NOT in charge. He's just an MP like everyone else. Technically the last Parliament is in charge still, no? Sure, he creates the threads, but I can create threads too... maybe the apathy you, VO2, the Chinese Republics feel can be cured with a mock coup and mock warring factions fighting in the capital and shooting the mock citizenry in the night eh?
I love it!
But seriously, put it before the next parliament. I know I’d be in favor of creating a sort of President of Parliament, to make sure things run smoother on the path of anarchy.

Anarchy!
All the cool commies are Anarchists!

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Don't this guy's sunglasses, goatee long hair and apathetic disposition just say "badass"? No? Well anarchy still pwns!

*shoots Chinese Republics*

I love it!
But seriously, put it before the next parliament. I know I’d be in favor of creating a sort of President of Parliament, to make sure things run smoother on the path of anarchy.

Yeah but as I said in the other thread, if you were really all anarchic you'd oppose the NS General Parliament on basic principles and refuse to acknowledge or give it power or legitimacy. Instead by creating a President of Parliament you'd be shooting the whole anarchy thing in the foot, by ensuring there'd NEVER be a state of anarchy!

Cuz in fact, there was anarchy until this thread was created and there is still anarchy now that we're apparently parliament-less. ;)

One thing we should get around to doing is creating a NS General Military. That way we could punish those who step out of line, with gun smileys.

:mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

Die, rebels!

We did NOTHING in this parliament, there are some MPs who are not very active. I agree with Aridda's decision to hold another election.

*shoots Chinese Republics*
*assassinated* Xp

Yeah but as I said in the other thread, if you were really all anarchic you'd oppose the NS General Parliament on basic principles and refuse to acknowledge or give it power or legitimacy. Instead by creating a President of Parliament you'd be shooting the whole anarchy thing in the foot, by ensuring there'd NEVER be a state of anarchy!
You have obviously not read our manifesto. A parliamentary president will be just one more straw to stack on the proverbial camel’s back as we break the fucking dromedary’s legs with our bare hands!

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A government that works for people

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*voting AACP*

Because we all know that the best government is no government!

Last term, the NSCP did do something, we banned puppet voting, so now any party with puppet votes will be disqualified or more likely (and fairly) have the number of votes that were puppet votes removed from their final tally.

You have obviously not read our manifesto. A parliamentary president will be just one more straw to stack on the proverbial camel’s back as we break the fucking dromedary’s legs with our bare hands!

I think you have an unhealthy obsession with camels.

(Indicating that the anarchists on the board are all sexual deviants.)

Last term, the NSCP did do something, we banned puppet voting, so now any party with puppet votes will be disqualified or more likely (and fairly) have the number of votes that were puppet votes removed from their final tally.I voted for that.

The only problem is where's Melkor? :confused:

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Defending a right to same-sex marriage.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

OK enough about this Arridia thing. We're supposed to have elections every 4 months, we didn't, he took the initiative. It's not like he's going to rig the votes or anything. Will you stop complaining and start campaigning?

Right, screw this. Can somebody please post a manifesto to actually stimulate a debate?:(

Right, screw this. Can somebody please post a manifesto to actually stimulate a debate?:(


okay, everyone throw their hats in the ring:

Capital Punishment

NSDSP --> Against

anyone else?

DINGDINGDING!!

That's the one issue we're split on, the Christians among us say no to the death penalty, but the conservatives say yes. We held a vote and for and against had the same number of votes.

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With that out of the way. I believe that the MLP is against the death penalty. State sponsored executions only breed a culture of violence that, along with the active pursuit of imperialistic initiatives, has led to the current situation.

As Blu-Tac has stated, the NS Conservative Party is undecided on Capital Punishment due to a split between those who are religious and those who are not.

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We did NOTHING in this parliament, there are some MPs who are not very active. I agree with Aridda's decision to hold another election.

Unfortunately I was one of those for a while. I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to The Party of Whatever Works. I lost internet access for quite a while. Long enough to have my nation die for several months.

If you guys love violent revolution, why are you taking part in an election, since reformist communists are apprently the devil? And if you don't believe in capital punishment, and yet the revolution is supposed to be the future state, then isn't violence capital punishment, or at least somewhat hypocritical?

If you guys love violent revolution, why are you taking part in an election, since reformist communists are apprently the devil? And if you don't believe in capital punishment, and yet the revolution is supposed to be the future state, then isn't violence capital punishment, or at least somewhat hypocritical?
The MLP does not support violent revolution because are sadistic or are fond of war. In fact we display neither of the aforementioned qualities. If gradual reform could achieve the desired ends, we would embrace it wholeheartedly, however that is not the case. Time and time again we have seen well-intentioned reformist attempt to change society only to be given lip-service by those in power. Violence is the only thing that the governments of today understand. By fighting in a united front under a single banner, can we achieve communism. Revolution need not begin in a battle field, but at the ballot box. It gives the tools that we need to spark the revolution. We are not attacking the proletariat, but rather those who wish to keep him chained.

The DSP believes in the democratic way of reaching the socialist (or social democratic) state. Also, we do not believe in Capital Punishment.

For more details, read our 2006 manifesto.

Aridda, can you link to the new poll in the main page? it should help give a good idea. thanks in advance!

okay, everyone throw their hats in the ring:

Capital Punishment

NSDSP --> Against

anyone else?


Against, as indicated in our manifesto. The death penalty is barbaric and unjustifiable. Most Western societies today with no death penalty have much lower crime rates than retentionist countries. Add to that the possibility of putting to death an innocent person.

The UDCP voted against the death penalty when the matter was brought up in the First Parliament, and will continue to do so.

VOTE UDCP!

If you support the right to choose your own government, then you belong in the NSCP.

If you believe that individuals and not the government should control one's money, then you belong in the NSCP.

If you think that it's hypocrisy that the NSDSP states they are in favor of the right to choose until it comes down to choosing ones own destiny, then you belong in the NSCP.

If you are tired of the MLP and the NSDSP bickering about who is going to take more rights away than the other, then you belong in the NSCP.

YOUbelong in the
NSCONSERVATIVEPARTY

YAY, all the old posts restored. :p

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The Conservative only cares about their corporate cronies, DSP cares about everybody. That's because everyone matters.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

We agree with the DSP, everybody matters, but we take this view further and say that everyone who can work and does work matters equally. Communism isn't a last resort, it's the moral high road that we should all choose to take to build a better world. Vote UDCP!

If you support the right to choose your own government, then you belong in the NSCP.That doesn't make sense. It's like saying "don't vote NSCP = you're a facist freak."

Everybody has a right to choose a government doens't mean you have to support the conservatives.

Agreed, Conservative Party, at least make your campaign a bit less vague... "If you think the sky is blue, vote NSCP!"

That doesn't make sense. It's like saying "don't vote NSCP = you're a facist freak."
People will say anything to come up with a political slogan these days. Look, I can just think of the next big line of slogans:

Vote for the ____ party or your balls will shrink into raisins, or if you are female, your breasts will shrivle up into nothingness.

If you think that it's hypocrisy that the NSDSP states they are in favor of the right to choose until it comes down to choosing ones own destiny, then you belong in the NSCP.

If you are tired of the MLP and the NSDSP bickering about who is going to take more rights away than the other, then you belong in the NSCP.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

People will say anything to come up with a political slogan these days. Look, I can just think of the next big line of slogans:

Vote for the ____ party or your balls will shrink into raisins, or if you are female, your breasts will shrivle up into nothingness.LOL

BTW, the conservatives are using "I shoot you if you don't vote for us" tactics. A tactic used by groups in fragile democratic countries, even the Nazis used that tactic to gain power.

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On March 14th, 2006, the Conservatives said: "If you support the right to choose your own government, then you belong in the NSCP."

They mean if you do not support the Conservatives, then you do not support democracy.

The Conservatives aren't the only choice in this election.

They're not the only party that support democracy.

Do they really support democracy?

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

What exactly does the NSCP want to conserve?
* The Old Guard
* Imperialism
* Wage slavery
* Inequality of opportunity

Vote for change, vote for freedom,


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Vote NSCP because they allow you to decide where your money goes, rather then taking it and giving it to others.

If you support low taxes, and the ability to earn a dime without losing a nickel then support the NSCP.

If you believe in allowing people to start a business, without the government taking control then support the NSCP.

The NSCP wants you to decide where your money goes and what you do with it, rather then the government taking it and deciding for you.

Yes! Another attack ad against the conservatives. :D

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You take away my properity, and I won't vote for you. As simple as that. :p

You take away my properity, and I won't vote for you. As simple as that. :pYou win. :D

Anarchy!
A vote for anyone else is a vote for slavery.

Their call!
Feed the few and starve the masses
Keep them chained to their classes
Conserve the old to enslave the new
Give power to the wealthy and few

Our Call!
Keep your labour, keep your bread
Lest ye be wondering, already dead
Pick up your sword and join the fight
Put an end to your People's plight

Vote for the Militant Leftist Party.

If you support the right to choose your own government, then you belong in the NSCP.
This is an election, all parties adhere to that.

If you believe that individuals and not the government should control one's money, then you belong in the NSCP.
Until you show me a manifesto and platform, that's empty rhetoric. Indeed, have you looked at the DSP's manifesto?

If you think that it's hypocrisy that the NSDSP states they are in favor of the right to choose until it comes down to choosing ones own destiny, then you belong in the NSCP.
Says the conservative party. :rolleyes:
Are you pretending to be NSCL? What about abortion, gay marriage, euthanasia?

If you are tired of the MLP and the NSDSP bickering about who is going to take more rights away than the other, then you belong in the NSCP.
Again, I suggest you look at the DSP's manifesto.

Vote Classic Liberals!
We used to have really good propaganda posters. But now it'll have to suffice to say that we have photographic evidence of the other party heads doing nasty and illegal things with barnyard animals, but we're too rational and tactful to post them just to get you to vote for us.

The MLP and the DSP have not bickered in this campaign thread once. [/off record]

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif

Change is what makes the world go 'round. Change is Progress. Do you really want to vote Conservative?
End the hegemony of the past! Vote DSP!

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

This time...

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8409/dsp1b0bp.gif

Healthcare and Fiscal Surplus Management

Our plan: More fiscal surplus funding for improving public healthcare for everyone.

The Conservatives: Lower tax to reduce fiscal surplus and cut spending to public healthcare, open private hospitals and clinics... for the wealthy.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/263/dsp1blittle0rh.gifPlease visit the official DSP thread for our 2006 Manifesto.

Until you show me a manifesto and platform, that's empty rhetoric.They do have it in PDF format, problem is that NOT EVERYBODY HAVE HIGH SPEED CONNECTION FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!

lol

I do have an adsl btw. But everytime i tried to download their manifesto, firefox crashes.

They do have it in PDF format, problem is that NOT EVERYBODY HAVE HIGH SPEED CONNECTION FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!

lol

I do have an adsl btw. But everytime i tried to download their manifesto, firefox crashes.
Thats why IE > firefox

Thats why IE > firefoxtried that in IE too.

Too lazy to restart and load linux. Fukin Windows...

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Because We Actually Don't Bash Other Parties
Especially When That Party Won't Even Defend Itself

Unintentional Ritlina Typing. Apologies To All Offended.

Jesus I can't keep up with you, TCR. ;)

oh the last DSP post, that wasn't me. :D

oh the last DSP post, that wasn't me. :D

no it was me ;)

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Because we care for the people.
Not the Rich and their
Fancy PDFs!

They do have it in PDF format, problem is that NOT EVERYBODY HAVE HIGH SPEED CONNECTION FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!
Where?

Anarchy!
Rich or Poor, you’ll be better off under anarchy.
Vote AACP, the party that really cares.

Keep your labour, keep your bread
Lest ye be wondering, already dead
Pick up your sword and join the fight
Put an end to your People's plight

Vote for the Militant Leftist Party.


Paid for by A-PAC

Where?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10562875&postcount=127

Hm.... Interesting that his has become a bash Conservative's thread.

I feel like I'm losing my properity....

7 mins left 'til Adobe Reader is fully downloaded. God damn you tories!

Hm.... Interesting that his has become a bash Conservative's thread.

I feel like I'm losing my properity....

well, mainly bashing the p.r. guy with the brains of a rodent. he just happens to be a con. . . . servative! :p

well, mainly bashing the p.r. guy with the brains of a rodent. he just happens to be a con. . . . servative! :p
Burnz0rz!

well, mainly bashing the p.r. guy with the brains of a rodent. he just happens to be a con. . . . servative! :p
Prince Rupert guy? I feel offended... jk :p

T-Shirts anybody?

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1327/dsp1b0bpsss5cr.jpg

7 mins left 'til Adobe Reader is fully downloaded. God damn you tories!

I had to download it too, on dial up, and it's the manifesto I support. At least you don't have to look at it. And I am not a torie....


well, mainly bashing the p.r. guy with the brains of a rodent. he just happens to be a con. . . . servative!

He was bashed 20 posts ago, now everyone is just beating the dead Conservative. :eek:

and he is not the P.R. guy....

Anyone up for another round of debate?