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Can you tolerate bisexuals?

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New-Lexington
03-03-2006, 01:01
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I dont know, because i dont personally know any
Golgothastan
03-03-2006, 01:07
If by tolerate, you mean, hook up with!

No. :(
Outreimer
03-03-2006, 01:08
No.
They are only in denial.
You are either one or the other.
God10003
03-03-2006, 01:08
I think bisexuals are lazy and can't make up thier mind which they like more. However I can tolerate them because it is not my buisness to care about other peoples sex lives.
:fluffle:
Begoned
03-03-2006, 01:09
Yes.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 01:09
Yup.
Terrorist Cakes
03-03-2006, 01:09
Yes. Maybe you should make a poll.
Monkeypimp
03-03-2006, 01:10
I'd show them the same amount of tolerance as anybody else..
Pure Metal
03-03-2006, 01:11
i'm going out with one (though she calls herself "just greedy" :p)

i think its cool. not my bag, but whatever floats your boat :)
Chiluptiwaschthx
03-03-2006, 01:11
I'm bisexual, so, yeah.

It does not mean that I'm confused. It doesn't mean that I'm desperate. It doesn't mean that I want a boyfriend and a girlfriend at the same time.

It does, however, mean that I occasionally get shit from gay people, which amuses me to no end; after all, what better way to promote tolerance and acceptance than to show your own hatred?

Really, though. If ever anybody wants to stick me in a category and hate me because of something I can't help, then, well, they aren't worth my time.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
03-03-2006, 01:13
I think they are the most selfish people around. They don't care who they're with, as long as they get off. Bisexuals are one step from being pedophiles or from having sex with animals or dead bodies. :rolleyes: /straw man
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 01:13
As long as they are female.:D
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:13
Being gay...erm no. It does get on my nerves sometimes when a guy tells me he only likes screwing other guys though. :x
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 01:14
Yes. I am one. Wanna fuck?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-03-2006, 01:16
"Can" I "tolerate" them?? Why the hell not?
The Gate Builders
03-03-2006, 01:16
Yup. I'd be a dick not to.
Undelia
03-03-2006, 01:17
Why wouldn't I be?
Sarkhaan
03-03-2006, 01:17
Yes. I am one. Wanna fuck?
you know it.
The Lightning Star
03-03-2006, 01:18
Why the hell not? I mean, what have Bi-sexuals done to me?

Also, technically, most of the population is technically bi-sexual. Pretty much everyone is at least partially gay or at least partially straight.
Jerusalas
03-03-2006, 01:19
If I can tolerate Republicans, I would hope that I could tolerate bisexuals. ;)
The Gate Builders
03-03-2006, 01:19
Hmmm.. Although... Being partially anything is for pussies! Full measures in all!
Callisdrun
03-03-2006, 01:21
Sure
Sumamba Buwhan
03-03-2006, 01:26
Yes. I am one. Wanna fuck?


How could I refuse that offer?! :D

Yes I love bisexual men and women and wish more people were attracted to both sexes and more into swinging ;)
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 01:27
Hmmm.. Although... Being partially anything is for pussies! Full measures in all!

We are. We're full measure for having a lot of sex. As much as possible. No half-assing it. We are going to fuck as much as we humanly can.
Isselmere
03-03-2006, 01:31
As long as all parties are of the age of consent and all are consenting, I couldn't give a flying who does what to and with whom, just so long as there is no betrayal of a third party (girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, etc.).
Kravania
03-03-2006, 01:31
Also, technically, most of the population is technically bi-sexual. Pretty much everyone is at least partially gay or at least partially straight.

Where is your evidence for that absurd claim?

I have observed that over the decades, Western society has degenerated to such an extent that soon, there will be no more taboos with regards to sexual conduct.

People are being pressured by various decadent agencies (democracy/liberal-degenerate media/education system etc...) to tolerate any perversion and act of immorality.

As a Catholic, I despair at the fact that the Vatican and the Pope have failed to state the Christian position on this issue. The Vatican has failed to inform people of the wrongs of sexual perversion and the Pope has so far shown open tolerance to homosexuals and other deviants.

I only hope for the day when the Vatican takes a stand on this.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 01:32
Why would you think bisexuals were stupid or selfish? THAT'S stupid.
People are either homo, hetero, or bi. That's how we are. Why would you have to choose one end of the spectrum? Maybe you know some nymphomaniac people, but bisexuals are really no different from any other kind of sexuality except for the certain preference. No better or worse than gay or straight.
I happen to be bisexual, but I'm also into monogamy. If I WERE into polygamy, there would be nothing wrong with that, either. It's an odd question unless you have a point to prove.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
03-03-2006, 01:35
What am I tolerating about them?
Their existence? Sure, I have no room to comment on how deviant someone else's sexual desires are.
Their having sex in fron of me? Sure, provided they're not really ugly or disrupting my stuff.
Their having an orgy in the next apartment and keeping me up when I have a midterm the next day? No, for that they will all die.
Libertas Veritas
03-03-2006, 01:35
If they are hot & sexy ladies then yes, yes I can.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:36
*snip*
I have much respect for the Catholic Church and its doctrine, albeit I think it is misguided in some regards. Luckily it has not stated an official position. It would only drive more and more followers away. Whilst I respect your faith, you seem to hide behind it.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 01:37
Where is your evidence for that absurd claim?

I have observed that over the decades, Western society has degenerated to such an extent that soon, there will be no more taboos with regards to sexual conduct.

People are being pressured by various decadent agencies (democracy/liberal-degenerate media/education system etc...) to tolerate any perversion and act of immorality.

As a Catholic, I despair at the fact that the Vatican and the Pope have failed to state the Christian position on this issue. The Vatican has failed to inform people of the wrongs of sexual perversion and the Pope has so far shown open tolerance to homosexuals and other deviants.

I only hope for the day when the Vatican takes a stand on this.

You've never heard of the Kinsey Reports (http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/ak-hhscale.html)
?
And why are there these problems with sexuality? We are human! It's what we do! We're one of the few species to do it for pleasure, but we DO do it for pleasure as much as reproduction. Something that is WRONG is something that HURTS PEOPLE. Pedophiles hurt children, so they are wrong. Homosexuals and bisexuals and heterosexuals don't HURT anyone having sex (unless they like it like that >.>) so what's really wrong with it?
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:39
You've never heard of the Kinsey Reports (http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/ak-hhscale.html)
?
And why are there these problems with sexuality? We are human! It's what we do! We're one of the few species to do it for pleasure, but we DO do it for pleasure as much as reproduction. Something that is WRONG is something that HURTS PEOPLE. Pedophiles hurt children, so they are wrong. Homosexuals and bisexuals and heterosexuals don't HURT anyone having sex (unless they like it like that >.>) so what's really wrong with it?
Furthermore, there are books on the matter now. Most biological ones attribute it to genetics. Books on sociology (except if they're biased) have not been able to find that homosexuality damages families and society. To the contrary; gay cvil unions allow homosexuals to come within societal norms. Marriage is not even a natural institution, it's manmade.

BTW, I am not so sure as to how valid the Kinsey reports are.
Isselmere
03-03-2006, 01:39
Er, the Catholic Church makes repeated claims about proper sexual conduct and practices.

The ancient Greeks (which specific city-state, I don't know) were the first to postulate the presence of multiple sexualities, that people fall somewhere along a line between homosexuality and heterosexuality, with most people falling between those two extremes.

The ancient Celts and Germans, from what little I know about them (which is very little), weren't so broad-minded.
Kravania
03-03-2006, 01:43
I have much respect for the Catholic Church and its doctrine, albeit I think it is misguided in some regards. Luckily it has not stated an official position. It would only drive more and more followers away. Whilst I respect your faith, you seem to hide behind it.

It is the Vatican's duty to our Creator and Protector to take a stand!

Those so-called followers who would be driven away, by the Vatican and the Church following and acting on their duties to the Holy Scriptures, would not be true Christians and thus I would be happy to see the back of those non-believers and heretics.

Homosexuals/bisexuals should either repent, bow to God and change their status to what humans are supposed to be, or they should face being punished IMO.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 01:43
As a Catholic, I despair at the fact that the Vatican and the Pope have failed to state the Christian position on this issue. The Vatican has failed to inform people of the wrongs of sexual perversion and the Pope has so far shown open tolerance to homosexuals and other deviants.

I only hope for the day when the Vatican takes a stand on this.

As a Catholic, I delight at the fact that the Vatican and the Pope have stopped attempting to enforce 12th century morals on the 21st century. The Vatican has started to move beyond telling people how to live their lives and now exists as a spiritual center. I for one enjoy the fact that the Church does not encourage people to riot when something offends it, and has acknowledged that we do not live in the same time or place as those who wrote the Bible, and that it may no longer be entirely relevant to a lot of people.

I only hope for the day when the Vatican completes this transformation and joins the rest of modern society. It is showing a lot of promise.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:44
It is the Vatican's duty to our Creator and Protector to take a stand!

Those so-called followers who would be driven away, by the Vatican and the Church following and acting on their duties to the Holy Scriptures, would not be true Christians and thus I would be happy to see the back of those non-believers and heretics.

Homosexuals/bisexuals should either repent, bow to God and change their status to what humans are supposed to be, or they should face being punished IMO.
In your opinion. Thank God others can interpret the scriptures more liberally. Well, I am homosexual and I am still Christian (albeit with an agnostic bent). Maybe you should repent to God for your bald-faced bigotry.
Isselmere
03-03-2006, 01:44
Humans are apes, Kravania. Indeed, human sexuality tends to follow that of our closest living relatives, the Bonobo.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:45
I only hope for the day when the Vatican completes this transformation and joins the rest of modern society. It is showing a lot of promise.
Should it do so, I might actually embrace Catholicism.
Ugly Organs
03-03-2006, 01:48
I think it is plenty tolerable. Because sometimes..you just want action.:fluffle:
New-Lexington
03-03-2006, 01:49
Yes. Maybe you should make a poll.
Me=newb how, i dont know how 2 after i already made the thread
Kravania
03-03-2006, 01:56
Lies and fabrications for hidden agendas, those are the ONLY two motives certain 'intellectuals' have when making absurd claims about homosexuality being 'normal'.

Certain elements over the course of history, 'Enlightenment thinkers', Communists/Marxists, supporters of the democratic political system etc... have pushed these false theories upon the people of many, many nations.

With regards to Europe, with the declining birth rate amongst the indigenous populations of those nations, homosexuality, along with race mixing and warping the minds of women to favour their 'careers' over their natural duty of motherhood, all of this is done to slowly wipe out the unique characteristics of each and every race, so as to create a world wide, global mongeral race, a race of people with no history or culture, so as to fasten the process of what many people refer to globalisation, a process that aims to one day create a world wide political authority that aims to govern us all and oppress all nations.
Ferus Dextrus
03-03-2006, 01:57
Bisexuals are like all gays except not only do they try and recruit other people to be gay, they reproduce spreading the gay gene. They are the worst type of gay and need to be quarenteened.
Fair Progress
03-03-2006, 01:57
I can't think of a reason why they should be more or less untolerable than any hetero or homossexual :rolleyes:
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 01:57
Lies and fabrications for hidden agendas, those are the ONLY two motives certain 'intellectuals' have when making absurd claims about homosexuality being 'normal'.

Certain elements over the course of history, 'Enlightenment thinkers', Communists/Marxists, supporters of the democratic political system etc... have pushed these false theories upon the people of many, many nations.

With regards to Europe, with the declining birth rate amongst the indigenous populations of those nations, homosexuality, along with race mixing and warping the minds of women to favour their 'careers' over their natural duty of motherhood, all of this is done to slowly wipe out the unique characteristics of each and every race, so as to create a world wide, global mongeral race, a race of people with no history or culture, so as to fasten the process of what many people refer to globalisation, a process that aims to one day create a world wide political authority that aims to govern us all and oppress all nations.

I'm calling troll. I was undecided at first, but the "warping the minds of women to favour their 'careers' over their natural duty of motherhood" did it for me.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 01:58
*snip*
I recommend you do some reading up on the non-existence of race (as opposed to cultures), the fact that homo/bi-sexuality are most likely genetic, that they do not threaten familial values or the birth rate and that breeding between different "races" is nowhere near as common as you seem to think it to be. Then, I would recommend you read up on some non-biased sources on women in society and why they are equal and deserve equal footing.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 01:58
Bisexuals are like all gays except not only do they try and recruit other people to be gay, they reproduce spreading the gay gene. They are the worst type of gay and need to be quarenteened.

But how can they have the gay gene if they also diddle vaginas?
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 02:03
Lies and fabrications for hidden agendas, those are the ONLY two motives certain 'intellectuals' have when making absurd claims about homosexuality being 'normal'.

Certain elements over the course of history, 'Enlightenment thinkers', Communists/Marxists, supporters of the democratic political system etc... have pushed these false theories upon the people of many, many nations.

With regards to Europe, with the declining birth rate amongst the indigenous populations of those nations, homosexuality, along with race mixing and warping the minds of women to favour their 'careers' over their natural duty of motherhood, all of this is done to slowly wipe out the unique characteristics of each and every race, so as to create a world wide, global mongeral race, a race of people with no history or culture, so as to fasten the process of what many people refer to globalisation, a process that aims to one day create a world wide political authority that aims to govern us all and oppress all nations.
So... Puppet or bonehead wannabe?
Pure Metal
03-03-2006, 02:04
Where is your evidence for that absurd claim?

I have observed that over the decades, Western society has degenerated to such an extent that soon, there will be no more taboos with regards to sexual conduct.

People are being pressured by various decadent agencies (democracy/liberal-degenerate media/education system etc...) to tolerate any perversion and act of immorality.

As a Catholic, I despair at the fact that the Vatican and the Pope have failed to state the Christian position on this issue. The Vatican has failed to inform people of the wrongs of sexual perversion and the Pope has so far shown open tolerance to homosexuals and other deviants.

I only hope for the day when the Vatican takes a stand on this.
ooh the vatican? look at me, i'm shaking in my little booties...

though this guy has to be a troll, right? or at the very least not serious :confused:
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:06
Yeah I can tolerate them. I have a friend whos gay and another whos bi.

But I still dont understand why anyone would want to be gay or lesbo or bi.

Why would someone want to go out with the same sex.
And anyone who says that they just cant love some one of the opposite sex is lying. Besides nowdays people just say their bi because they want to cool or the outcasts. I know at least 3 people at my school like that.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:07
Lucky bisexuals…we get to hear stupid shit about us from the mouths of straights AND gays.

I'm not confused. I know exactly the type of men I like, and exactly the type of women I like. I tend to have a wider range of 'man types' than 'woman types', so I'm not 50/50 bi. But there is nothing confusing about my attraction to both sexes.

Can you tolerate us? Who fucking cares? Piss on you if you don't like it.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:07
But I still dont understand why anyone would want to be gay or lesbo or bi.

I don't think it's a case of anybody 'wanting' to be...that's just how they are.
Kravania
03-03-2006, 02:08
No Im not a troll.

I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Politically speaking Im a Fascist and consider that all human races should contruct their own isolated societies that reflect their own heritage and cultural needs.

I detest globalisation and democracy, these two system will be the death of humanity.
Pride and Prejudice
03-03-2006, 02:08
though this guy has to be a troll, right? or at the very least not serious :confused:

Either that, or VERY VERY serious. I've seen too many who are that serious to discount this as being "not serious."
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:10
I don't think it's a case of anybody 'wanting' to be...that's just how they are.
I think if they wanted to they could be just straight.
But who the hell knows.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:11
No Im not a troll.

I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Politically speaking Im a Fascist and consider that all human races should contruct their own isolated societies that reflect their own heritage and cultural needs.

I detest globalisation and democracy, these two system will be the death of humanity.

You're against democracy, women's rights, gay rights, and for segregation.

Frankly, your beliefs are wrong.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:11
I think if they wanted to they could be just straight.
But who the hell knows.
If you wanted to, could you be gay?
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:12
You're against democracy, women's rights, gay rights, and for segregation.

Frankly, your beliefs are wrong.
Well, you have to admit that it's been a while since any Aryan Nation or White Power poster has been on this board...I guess they need to remind us they still exist.
Sweet Shenanigans
03-03-2006, 02:13
yea I can. It is none of my business to tell someone they can or cannot like someone else. People are going to like other people no matter your opoinion so you might as well just get over it! I find nothing wrong with it to say the least! :fluffle: :D
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:13
Well, you have to admit that it's been a while since any Aryan Nation or White Power poster has been on this board...I guess they need to remind us they still exist.

I could do without that reminder, honestly.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:13
If you wanted to, could you be gay?
I bet I could.
Like I said above I have a friend whos gay and he dosent really act all that different or talk with a really high girly voice.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 02:14
Accusing people of having an agenda is the first step toward me backing away from an argument. People who believe that gays have a GAY AGENDA, WANTING EVERYONE TO BE GAY!! are very difficult to convince otherwise because they are highly unreasonable if they think that in the first place. Also, people who use this to argue with:

"With regards to Europe, with the declining birth rate amongst the indigenous populations of those nations, homosexuality, along with race mixing and warping the minds of women to favour their 'careers' over their natural duty of motherhood, all of this is done to slowly wipe out the unique characteristics of each and every race, so as to create a world wide, global mongeral race, a race of people with no history or culture, so as to fasten the process of what many people refer to globalisation, a process that aims to one day create a world wide political authority that aims to govern us all and oppress all nations."

You sound extremely paranoid. Extremely. Reasonable people don't think like this...and you can't really argue with people that have this kind of mindset. It's a waste of time.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:14
I think if they wanted to they could be just straight.
But who the hell knows.
Nah. As much as I have wanted to, I can't just 'be straight'.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:14
I bet I could.
Like I said above I have a friend whos gay and he dosent really act all that different or talk with a really high girly voice.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:

I'll give you $100 if you become gay for two weeks.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:15
Nah. As much as I have wanted to, I can't just 'be straight'.
Wipe out all filipinas and I'd be as close as I could be...but only from lack.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:16
Nah. As much as I have wanted to, I can't just 'be straight'.
I'll agree with that. People who hold a view to the contrary typically think it's a matter of choice rather than genetics, or whatever. I would challenge them to convert from heterosexual to homosexual, whilst sober.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:17
I'll agree with that. People who hold a view to the contrary typically think it's a matter of choice rather than genetics, or whatever. I would challenge them to convert from heterosexual to homosexual, whilst sober.
heheheheheheee
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:17
I'll give you $100 if you become gay for two weeks.
LOL I think not. As much as I could use the money I wouldnt want to get with another guy.

Id much rather stick with girls.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:
Rufionia
03-03-2006, 02:18
meh, im o.k. with it
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:18
LOL I think not. As much as I could use the money I wouldnt want to get with another guy.

Id much rather stick with girls.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:
Then don't expect gay people to simply stop being gay.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:18
LOL I think not. As much as I could use the money I wouldnt want to get with another guy.

Id much rather stick with girls.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:
The sniper thing is getting old, fast.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:19
LOL I think not. As much as I could use the money I wouldnt want to get with another guy.

Id much rather stick with girls.

- Diablos the sniper :sniper:

Why not? If you can be gay, then what's the big deal? Just be attracted to guys for two weeks.

I'll make it $1000.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 02:19
I could be gay for two weeks. AND straight!
What do they call that?
Oh yeah.
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 02:19
No Im not a troll.

I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Politically speaking Im a Fascist and consider that all human races should contruct their own isolated societies that reflect their own heritage and cultural needs.

I detest globalisation and democracy, these two system will be the death of humanity.Why don't you stop talking & buy yourself an island somewhere? You'll never be tolerated by your peers. We'll hunt you down, beat you senseless & run you out of your home. Because it's you or us, and it sure as hell isn't gonna be you.

No Platform.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:19
How could I refuse that offer?! :D

Yes I love bisexual men and women and wish more people were attracted to both sexes and more into swinging ;)
Definately more swinging needed in this world...
Kravania
03-03-2006, 02:19
You're against democracy, women's rights, gay rights, and for segregation.

Frankly, your beliefs are wrong.

Well I would have to start to make a whole new thread with the many, many reasons why I think humans should consign democracy to the dustbin of history ASAP.

I never said women were not equal to men, nor do I think ALL women should not be allowed to work, just that society should change to allow less pressure to get women into work, for many women would love to raise a family, but cannot financially afford to leave their jobs, thus the government has a duty, to society, the nation and to our Creator, to provide the support that is needed to give women the option of motherhood and to make motherhood more rewarding than working. I can also understand that women may not want to raise children, given how horrific the world has now become, but guess what, the political system that is most dominant in the world today, the political system that hass allowed the horrors of todays world to spread like the plague is DEMOCRACY.

Homosexuals and bisexuals who fail to repent and change their ways should only face the death penalty.

With regards to race, I do not hate any race, just that I believe that it would be more beneficial to EVERY race for it to have their own space/nation, by which they can exist without outside influence and by which they can preserve their own way of life.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:20
Then don't expect gay people to simply stop being gay.

I dont. I never said I did, but if they wanted to I still think they could. Its their choice.

Sinuhue: Fine. No sniper
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:21
Sinuhue: Fine. No sniper
We all appreciate it!
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:22
Well I would have to start to make a whole new thread with the many, many reasons why I think humans should consign democracy to the dustbin of history ASAP.

I never said women were not equal to men, nor do I think ALL women should not be allowed to work, just that society should change to allow less pressure to get women into work, for many women would love to raise a family, but cannot financially afford to leave their jobs, thus the government has a duty, to society, the nation and to our Creator, to provide the support that is needed to give women the option of motherhood and to make motherhood more rewarding than working. I can also understand that women may not want to raise children, given how horrific the world has now become, but guess what, the political system that is most dominant in the world today, the political system that hass allowed the horrors of todays world to spread like the plague is DEMOCRACY.

Homosexuals and bisexuals who fail to repent and change their ways should only face the death penalty.

With regards to race, I do not hate any race, just that I believe that it would be more beneficial to EVERY race for it to have their own space/nation, by which they can exist without outside influence and by which they can preserve their own way of life.

Right. We won't be getting into how you're only allowed to publicly hold contrary beliefs in a democracy.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:23
I dont. I never said I did, but if they wanted to I still think they could. Its their choice.

Sinuhue: Fine. No sniper
You mean as in not acting on your innate sexuality. So if you had the choice then, would you just simply start messing around with guys? Or would the fact that you're not aroused by them be a hindrance?
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 02:23
I dont. I never said I did, but if they wanted to I still think they could. Its their choice.


Their choice to have sex with someone they find repugnant? Next time you see a big, sweaty, fat chick with greasy hair and a bucket of fried chicken in her meaty hands, you go ahead and fuck her. Because who you are attracted to is apparently a choice.
Chiluptiwaschthx
03-03-2006, 02:24
... and people who think that sexuality is a choice really aren't worth my time. As a great comedian once said, if being gay is a choice that you can blame somebody for making, then it must be a choice everybody can make.

So... YOU do it!

I just want to know where people get off thinking they understand the way my brain works better than I do.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:26
Homosexuals and bisexuals who fail to repent and change their ways should only face the death penalty.

Yea? I think heterosexuals should be forced to reproduce at the age of 20, and then 25, and then they should be executed as soon as two children are born.

How do you like that?
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:26
... and people who think that sexuality is a choice really aren't worth my time.

I just want to know where people get off thinking they understand the way my brain works better than I do.

Maybe that's what they're naturally attracted to.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 02:26
Their choice to have sex with someone they find repugnant? Next time you see a big, sweaty, fat chick with greasy hair and a bucket of fried chicken in her meaty hands, you go ahead and fuck her. Because who you are attracted to is apparently a choice.

Damn. Excellent point.
Even being bisexual doesn't mean they'd fuck ANYONE. (Not that this made me realize that, I'm just mentioning that because I haven't yet.)
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:27
Yea? I think heterosexuals should be forced to reproduce at the age of 20, and then 25, and then they should be executed as soon as two children are born.

How do you like that?

Technically each couple should produce 2.1 children, to account for children who do not live to the age of maturity. So, really, two children and then a fetus, which we can remove and place in artificial incubation.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:27
I dont. I never said I did, but if they wanted to I still think they could. Its their choice.


If you wanted to could you be gay?
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:27
Technically each couple should produce 2.1 children, to account for children who do not live to the age of maturity. So, really, two children and then a fetus, which we can remove and place in artificial incubation.
Yea, that seems fair enough.
Pride and Prejudice
03-03-2006, 02:28
Since people have some uncertainty, let me make it very clear that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. To do this, I am going to make a long quote from my psych text book (where it explores the BIOLOGICAL aspect of sexual orientation).

New research indicates that sexual orientation is at least partly physiological. Researcher Simon LeVay (1991) discovered this while while studying sections of the hypothalamus taken from deceased heterosexual and homosexual people. ... After nine months of peering through his microscope at a cell cluster he thought might be important, LeVay sat down one morning and broke the codes. His discovery: The cell cluster was reliably larger in heterosexual men than in women and homosexual men. ... LeVay does not view this little neural center as a sexual orientation center; rather, he sees it as an important part of the neural pathway engaged in sexual behavior. Moreover, he acknowledges that it's possible that sexual behavior patterns influence the brain's anatomy. (In fish, birds, and humans, brain structures are known to vary with experience.) But he believes it more likely that brain anatomy influences sexual orientation. Laura Allen and Roger Gorski (1992) offered a similar conclusion after discovering that a section of the fibers connecting the right and left hemispheres is one-third larger in homosexual men than in heterosexual men. "The emerging neuroanatomical picture," notes Brian Gladue (1994), "is that, in some brain areas, homosexual men are more likely to have female-typical neuroanatomy than are heterosexual men."

Please don't make me quote more from the "Understanding sexual orientation" area. If you want more, please read it yourself. Citation in APA format below.

Myers, D. G. Psychology. 1998. Worth Publishers, Inc. : New York, NY.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:28
If you wanted to could you be gay?

I've got $1000 that says he can't.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2006, 02:29
Right. We won't be getting into how you're only allowed to publicly hold contrary beliefs in a democracy.
Nor how making motherhood more rewarding than working is pressuring women into motherhood.
Etothepitimesiplusone
03-03-2006, 02:31
Right. We won't be getting into how you're only allowed to publicly hold contrary beliefs in a democracy.
The U.S. is a republic, not a democracy.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:31
I get yalls point.
But think about this.
You see two fat people holding hands walking down a street.
You think how could any guy go out with someone that fat.
Youd think that he would much rather be with some hot chick.
Certaintly he cant get a hot girl.
But why is he going out with that girl instead of just staying single?
The answer could be many things.
Maybe hes lonely or maybe he just needs someone to fuck.
But he made a choice to be with her over being alone.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:31
The U.S. is a republic, not a democracy.

And?
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:33
I get yalls point.
But think about this.
You see two fat people holding hands walking down a street.
You think how could any guy go out with someone that fat.
Youd think that he would much rather be with some hot chick.
Certaintly he cant get a hot girl.
But why is he going out with that girl instead of just staying single?
The answer could be many things.
Maybe hes lonely or maybe he just needs someone to fuck.
But he made a choice to be with her over being alone.
Or maybe he's geniunely attracted to her?

Or maybe he loves her?

Those never crossed your mind?
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:33
I get yalls point.
But think about this.
You see two fat people holding hands walking down a street.
You think how could any guy go out with someone that fat.
Youd think that he would much rather be with some hot chick.
Certaintly he cant get a hot girl.
But why is he going out with that girl instead of just staying single?
The answer could be many things.
Maybe hes lonely or maybe he just needs someone to fuck.
But he made a choice to be with her over being alone.

Still have $1000 on the table, boss. Come on, it's easy, it's a choice. Just be attracted to guys for two weeks. It's just two weeks. I'm not even saying you have to have sex with them. Just be naturally attracted to them. It's easy!
Kravania
03-03-2006, 02:34
Why cannot you understand that God made us that we use sexual intercourse for the purpose of reproduction, for sexual intercourse is a scared ritual for the purpose of species survival and not to be degraded for the purpose of 'pleasure/recreation'.

There is nothing natural about homosexuality/bisexuality, it's nothing but a life of sin.

Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.
South Illyria
03-03-2006, 02:34
Well I would have to start to make a whole new thread with the many, many reasons why I think humans should consign democracy to the dustbin of history ASAP.

I never said women were not equal to men, nor do I think ALL women should not be allowed to work, just that society should change to allow less pressure to get women into work, for many women would love to raise a family, but cannot financially afford to leave their jobs, thus the government has a duty, to society, the nation and to our Creator, to provide the support that is needed to give women the option of motherhood and to make motherhood more rewarding than working. I can also understand that women may not want to raise children, given how horrific the world has now become, but guess what, the political system that is most dominant in the world today, the political system that hass allowed the horrors of todays world to spread like the plague is DEMOCRACY.

Homosexuals and bisexuals who fail to repent and change their ways should only face the death penalty.

With regards to race, I do not hate any race, just that I believe that it would be more beneficial to EVERY race for it to have their own space/nation, by which they can exist without outside influence and by which they can preserve their own way of life.

Wow, you're certainly a great model of Christian love. Jesus, who hung out with the prostitutes and robbers and probably the homosexuals as well, is probably really proud of you. Congratulations for proliferating hatred and violence in the world. Let he among us without sin be the first to condemn.

By the way, Hitler was a fascist.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:35
I just want to know where people get off thinking they understand the way my brain works better than I do.
I never said I did, and I could be wronge just as you could be wronge.
Thats why we have the word hypothesis.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:36
I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Last I checked, the height of Civilization thought that the Sun was the center of the solar system.

But hey, that's just me.

(Note: They could also spell "Civilization.")
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:37
There is nothing natural about homosexuality/bisexuality, it's nothing but a life of sin.

That's funny, I find it the most natural thing in the world.

Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Genocide means people were killed.

Homosexuals not reproducing (even though a few do) doesn't kill anybody.

So it cannot be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.
But killing homosexuals wouldn't be a genocide, and wouldn't me morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Hitler and others of their ilk?
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:38
Why cannot you understand that God made us that we use sexual intercourse for the purpose of reproduction, for sexual intercourse is a scared ritual for the purpose of species survival and not to be degraded for the purpose of 'pleasure/recreation'.

There is nothing natural about homosexuality/bisexuality, it's nothing but a life of sin.
Yet there is a proven, constant rate of homosexuality in all animals, at around 10%. Marriage, on the other hand, occurs NOWHERE in nature.

Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.
How do we perpetrate genocide? We are not high enough arithmetically to end the human race; we are at a constant of around 10%. Stalin, Mao etc were mass murderers, but not genocidical. They killed others indiscriminantly (almost). They did not refuse to procreate. Your logic is flawed and weak. A heterosexual who refuses to procreate would also be committing genocide by your logic. Get a clue.

And by the way, should homosexuals be able to reproduce via superior technology and form families, how would they be contributing to genocide? The only person who is committing a crime against mankind is you with your prejudices. Please, refrain from procreation.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:38
Why cannot you understand that God made us that we use sexual intercourse for the purpose of reproduction, for sexual intercourse is a scared ritual for the purpose of species survival and not to be degraded for the purpose of 'pleasure/recreation'.

There is nothing natural about homosexuality/bisexuality, it's nothing but a life of sin.

Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.

Mostly because that's not true. If God had created sexual intercourse solely for the purposes of reproduction, he would have made it so it was only possible during the female's peak ovulation, thus ensuring the highest possibility of pregnancy, much like with other animals who have period when they are "in heat". The fact that we become sexually aroused and can have sex even when there's no chance of pregnancy speaks to the idea that sex isn't solely for reproduction.
The Gate Builders
03-03-2006, 02:38
No Im not a troll.

I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Politically speaking Im a Fascist and consider that all human races should contruct their own isolated societies that reflect their own heritage and cultural needs.

I detest globalisation and democracy, these two system will be the death of humanity.

Kraven?
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 02:38
I never said I did, and I could be wronge just as you could be wronge.
Thats why we have the word hypothesis.But you want to kill people anyway?

Such a nice lad. I do hope you never have children.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:39
(Note: They could also spell "Civilization.")

"Civilisation" is the British spelling...
Pride and Prejudice
03-03-2006, 02:40
Do you guys not read other people's posts just because they're long? I just gave a whole bunch of stuff about how BOTH orientations are physiological (and consequently natural). If you're going to keep arguing, at least respond to it!
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:41
"Civilisation" is the British spelling...

I know. I was on a bit of an anti-Europe kick what with all this (NOT white supremacy) stuff going on.

I say we kill all the Europeans for their incorrect spellings. It's not natural.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:41
Or maybe he's geniunely attracted to her?

Or maybe he loves her?

Those never crossed your mind?
Maybe? Yall keep on thinking im just some closed minded idiot.

Sdaeriji: Well I guess I owe you $1000 dollars.
I can judge other men.
I can say "Hey that guy looks pretty good I bet the girls really like him."
So I guess you could say Im a little gay already.
LOL
Kravania
03-03-2006, 02:41
Yes, in America:rolleyes:

The REAL English language spells it with a 's', not a 'z'.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:42
Do you guys not read other people's posts just because they're long? I just gave a whole bunch of stuff about how BOTH orientations are physiological (and consequently natural). If you're going to keep arguing, at least respond to it!
I have already brought this up in my arguments. There is no arguing with people who fail to face up to reason.
Nadkor
03-03-2006, 02:42
I know. I was on a bit of an anti-Europe kick what with all this white supremacy stuff going on.

I say we kill all the Europeans for their incorrect spellings. It's not natural.
How....odd.
The Gate Builders
03-03-2006, 02:43
Yes, in America:rolleyes:

The REAL English language spells it with a 's', not a 'z'.

The real english language doesn't want your help.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:43
I know. I was on a bit of an anti-Europe kick what with all this white supremacy stuff going on.

I say we kill all the Europeans for their incorrect spellings. It's not natural.
White supremacy stuff?
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:43
Maybe? Yall keep on thinking im just some closed minded idiot.

Sdaeriji: Well I guess I owe you $1000 dollars.
I can judge other men.
I can say "Hey that guy looks pretty good I bet the girls really like him."
So I guess you could say Im a little gay already.
LOL

I can admit the beauty in certain automobiles, but that doesn't mean I want to stick my dick in the tailpipe. The key is whether or not your sexually attracted to them, not whether you can admit beauty.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:43
Yes, in America:rolleyes:

The REAL English language spells it with a 's', not a 'z'.

The REAL World realizes that the Sun is the center of the Solar System, that homosexuality/bisexuality exists in nature, and that homosexuality is not a genocide.

I suggest you join it.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:43
But you want to kill people anyway?

Such a nice lad. I do hope you never have children.
?What?
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:44
The real english language doesn't want your help.
Rename it to American if you're going to call your version real.
The UN abassadorship
03-03-2006, 02:45
Well I would have to start to make a whole new thread with the many, many reasons why I think humans should consign democracy to the dustbin of history ASAP.

I never said women were not equal to men, nor do I think ALL women should not be allowed to work, just that society should change to allow less pressure to get women into work, for many women would love to raise a family, but cannot financially afford to leave their jobs, thus the government has a duty, to society, the nation and to our Creator, to provide the support that is needed to give women the option of motherhood and to make motherhood more rewarding than working. I can also understand that women may not want to raise children, given how horrific the world has now become, but guess what, the political system that is most dominant in the world today, the political system that hass allowed the horrors of todays world to spread like the plague is DEMOCRACY.

Homosexuals and bisexuals who fail to repent and change their ways should only face the death penalty.

With regards to race, I do not hate any race, just that I believe that it would be more beneficial to EVERY race for it to have their own space/nation, by which they can exist without outside influence and by which they can preserve their own way of life.
Please go away, you bother me. Please go away and die. That would be great, thanks. :headbang: :upyours:

btw to answer this thread question, I love bisexuals, and gays, and straights, sex is fun, so have fun kids ;)
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:45
How....odd.

Sarcasm, mate.

(And white supremacy - I don't know why I said that. I haven't slept in a while. I was intending to say something about the people who consider homosexuality a sin- and that came out. I don't actually remember typing it. I'll go edit that now.)
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 02:46
I get yalls point.
But think about this.
You see two fat people holding hands walking down a street.
You think how could any guy go out with someone that fat.
Youd think that he would much rather be with some hot chick.
Certaintly he cant get a hot girl.
But why is he going out with that girl instead of just staying single?
The answer could be many things.
Maybe hes lonely or maybe he just needs someone to fuck.
But he made a choice to be with her over being alone.

Right.. So your conclusion is that because unattractive people get together being gay is a choice?

He made a choice between LONELINESS or BEING WITH SOMEONE. Not between BEING ATTRACTED to a woman or being attracted to a man. He doesn't have a CHOICE to be attracted to a man. He can only choose which kind of woman he likes, because he is (I'm assuming) heterosexual.

Why cannot you understand that God made us that we use sexual intercourse for the purpose of reproduction, for sexual intercourse is a scared ritual for the purpose of species survival and not to be degraded for the purpose of 'pleasure/recreation'.

There is nothing natural about homosexuality/bisexuality, it's nothing but a life of sin.

Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.

First of all, you make me sick. But I will try to use logic as objectively as possible.
Second of all, how do you know what God made us for? How do you know what he wants? Have you spoken to him? How can you believe the bible, when it wasn't even written by God, or Jesus?
Third, did you notice the world's population recently? 9 billion or so? WE NEED MORE PEOPLE!? Yeah! So we can all eventually die of starvation and disease, from lack of food and resources! Yay! And GOD FORBID giving gays the right to adopt some of the million of unwanted children only STRAIGHT people have, some of them because the Pope told them once not to use birth control! At this point it would HELP the world for a greater percentage to be homosexual!
Pride and Prejudice
03-03-2006, 02:47
The REAL English language spells it with a 's', not a 'z'.

BRITISH English spells it with a "s," not a "z." AMERICAN English spells it with a "z," not a "s." Once American English became a dialect instead of simply vernacular, "REAL" English simply became the British dialect, and consequently, "real" cannot be used when debating American vs. British (but can when debating incorrect usage from one who does not know better, in relation to something generally agreed upon in all dialects).
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:47
Sarcasm, mate.

(And white supremacy - I don't know why I said that. I haven't slept in a while. I was intending to say something about the people who consider homosexuality a sin- and that came out. I don't actually remember typing it. I'll go edit that now.)
That is Christian supremacy, or religious more generally. Blacks are as likely as whites, or any other colour, to be racist, homophobic etc. No one holds a monopoly on bigotry.
South Illyria
03-03-2006, 02:47
Last I checked, the height of Civilization thought that the Sun was the center of the solar system.

But hey, that's just me.

(Note: They could also spell "Civilization.")

"Civilisation" is the UK spelling, so let's not correct others' errors and in doing so make fools of ourselves.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:49
"Civilisation" is the UK spelling, so let's not correct others' errors and in doing so make fools of ourselves.

I already noted that I knew that in advance. Read what's been written before you make a fool of your own self.
The UN abassadorship
03-03-2006, 02:50
No Im not a troll.

I do believe that the Catholic Church and the values it once preached many centuries ago where the highlight of European Civilisation.

Politically speaking Im a Fascist and consider that all human races should contruct their own isolated societies that reflect their own heritage and cultural needs.

I detest globalisation and democracy, these two system will be the death of humanity.
Are you sure? you seem awfully like a troll having read your other posts. I think your having a good laugh having all of us buy this.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:50
I can admit the beauty in certain automobiles, but that doesn't mean I want to stick my dick in the tailpipe. The key is whether or not your sexually attracted to them, not whether you can admit beauty.
Good point.
Whos say I have to be sexually attracted to someone.
Surly their are gay people out their who arent sexually attracted to guys but still like guys over girls.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:51
That is Christian supremacy, or religious more generally. Blacks are as likely as whites, or any other colour, to be racist, homophobic etc. No one holds a monopoly on bigotry.

Fair enough. The difference is not that the bigotry is alive in the people, but how much power they have to actually utilize it. That's why you hear about white supremacy far more often than black supremacy (and probably why that phrase jumped from my fingertips at that moment).
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:51
Good point.
Whos say I have to be sexually attracted to someone.
Surly their are gay people out their who arent sexually attracted to guys but still like guys over girls.

My thousand bucks says you do.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:52
Fair enough. The difference is not that the bigotry is alive in the people, but how much power they have to actually utilize it. That's why you hear about white supremacy far more often than black supremacy (and probably why that phrase jumped from my fingertips at that moment).
Either way, let's get back on topic. White/black/whatever supremacy is not directly relevant.
Pure Metal
03-03-2006, 02:52
How....odd.
noobs are funny....
South Illyria
03-03-2006, 02:52
I already noted that I knew that in advance. Read what's been written before you make a fool of your own self.

I'm sorry about that; by the time I had typed it in an entire new page of posts had been written. I'm not familiar with how quickly this forum updates.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 02:53
Good point.
Whos say I have to be sexually attracted to someone.
Surly their are gay people out their who arent sexually attracted to guys but still like guys over girls.
You mean straight/curious? They are either closet homosexuals, or merely extremely horny.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:54
My thousand bucks says you do.
Love isnt definded by sex.
Mackinau
03-03-2006, 02:54
Yeah, why not?

"You're attracted to women AND men? Eww!! Now you have to die!"
Garrett The Great
03-03-2006, 02:54
Personally, I can tolerate most of them, but it's the perverted bis and gays that always talk about sex and stuff like that that I can not stand. The ones that you can't tell by being around them unless they tell you they're gay or bi, those are the ones I can tolerate.:headbang:
South Illyria
03-03-2006, 02:55
Love isnt definded by sex.

Sexual orientation is.
Jerusalas
03-03-2006, 02:55
As we all know, when Kravania dies, he'll go to a place where all the women are attractive, all the men are strong, there's only on homongenous race, and everyone answers to one Fearless Leader.

Only problem is that all the women are homosexual, all the other men want to have sex with him, the homogenous race is 'Aryan' and the Fearless Leader walks around in a white robe with a beard... and occasionally a red tail can be seen flickering under the robe.

In other words, his own, personal hell!

EDIT: And if he's reincarnated, he'll doubtless come back as a bonobo.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 02:55
Love isnt definded by sex.

No, but sexuality is. And that's what we're talking about here. A person's sexuality. Not their ability to love. A straight man can love another man just as much as he can love a woman. We're discussing your belief that anyone can just choose who to be sexually attracted to.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 02:56
I'm sorry about that; by the time I had typed it in an entire new page of posts had been written. I'm not familiar with how quickly this forum updates.

No worries.:)

noobs are funny....

Eh. It's the humor I've grown up around. Random stuff like that, that bashes something senselessly (but obviously in a sarcastic manner so no offense is taken.) Whatever rubs your Buddha, I guess.
Avertide
03-03-2006, 02:57
No, I simply can't stand them. They're too frivolous and human...

And too dang stringy to do anything but pull-barbecue them....
Kravania
03-03-2006, 02:58
Personally, I can tolerate most of them, but it's the perverted bis and gays that always talk about sex and stuff like that that I can not stand. The ones that you can't tell by being around them unless they tell you they're gay or bi, those are the ones I can tolerate.

I can sympathise with your view, but don't let your guard down.

All homosexuals and bisexuals are the same, perverts who live in sin who propagate their decadence and thus corrupt the innocents with promises of a tempting lifestlye full of hedonism and non-stop self enjoyment and gratification.

They seek to deceive, trust nor tolerate any of them.
Lotr celebration
03-03-2006, 02:58
this poses an interesting question. i look at this and i sea another example of people looking to make theselfes look better. it is beyond be to believe that peole will hate people over thier opinions(don't get me wrong i think peoples opinions are wrong, but i dont hate them for it.) a good axamble is the whole "... is so gay" phrase. at my school, gay people are put down. why is it anyones buisness what other people do in thier own homes. and what does someones sexual history matter to you. so long as they do not have an std, they are fine.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 02:58
You mean straight/curious? They are either closet homosexuals, or merely extremely horny.
No. Being curious has nothing to do with it.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:00
Damn. Excellent point.
Even being bisexual doesn't mean they'd fuck ANYONE. (Not that this made me realize that, I'm just mentioning that because I haven't yet.)
I'm only attracted to people that I find attractive. Sounds repetitive, but it's true. Not all men turn my crank, and not all women do either. But straight people often forget the fact that being gay or bi doesn't mean a sudden interest in anything with a pulse.:)
Pure Metal
03-03-2006, 03:00
Eh. It's the humor I've grown up around. Random stuff like that, that bashes something senselessly (but obviously in a sarcastic manner so no offense is taken.) Whatever rubs your Buddha, I guess.
bah i'm tired, though a good buddha-rubbing would wake me up a tad... just be sure to not make god cry (never got that inuendo myself... i mean the god part... bah!)
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:01
No, but sexuality is. And that's what we're talking about here. A person's sexuality. Not their ability to love. A straight man can love another man just as much as he can love a woman. We're discussing your belief that anyone can just choose who to be sexually attracted to.
Okay and my belief is that you could be straight/gay/bi/whatever and change if you wanted to.

You see people convert from different religions all the time.
Dose that make any of them right, and all the others wornge.
Of course not.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:01
I can sympathise with your view, but don't let your guard down.

All homosexuals and bisexuals are the same, perverts who live in sin who propagate their decadence and thus corrupt the innocents with promises of a tempting lifestlye full of hedonism and non-stop self enjoyment and gratification.

They seek to deceive, trust nor tolerate any of them.
Debating with you is pointless. You are dogmatic beyond the point of reason.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:02
Okay and my belief is that you could be straight/gay/bi/whatever and change if you wanted to.

You see people convert from different religions all the time.
Dose that make any of them right, and all the others wornge.
Of course not.
Religion is purely a matter of choice. You are born a certain sexuality.
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:02
I'm perfectly fine with it. I myself am hardly bisexual, but other people are, so that's that.

Same with homosexuals. There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of it, and I don't see why there was ever a problem with it, aside from the factors we all know about *cough*religion*cough*.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:02
Do you guys not read other people's posts just because they're long? I just gave a whole bunch of stuff about how BOTH orientations are physiological (and consequently natural). If you're going to keep arguing, at least respond to it!
Why would I argue with something I agree with? And the extreme fellow is not going to listen to reason.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:03
No. Being curious has nothing to do with it.
Then they are closet bi-/homosexuals.
Amarnaiy
03-03-2006, 03:03
It is the Vatican's duty to our Creator and Protector to take a stand!

Those so-called followers who would be driven away, by the Vatican and the Church following and acting on their duties to the Holy Scriptures, would not be true Christians and thus I would be happy to see the back of those non-believers and heretics.

Homosexuals/bisexuals should either repent, bow to God and change their status to what humans are supposed to be, or they should face being punished IMO.

My dear person! You're exactly like my mother! And it's creeping me out! Anyways, I thought you might like to know my views about this.

I'm a Christian. I love God with all my heart. I do not believe the He would truly care where my sexual preference is, because I love all of mankind. Please don't act like you know exactly what goes through His mind.

God, to me, wouldn't care about our sexual preferences. If He loves us so much, then wouldn't He want us to be happy? I admit, like everyone else, I sin. Ooooh, and don't say you don't. Do not hide behind your faith and say everyone who is not a Roman Catholic is wrong.

In case you were wondering, I'm Episcopalian.
Airona
03-03-2006, 03:03
Ok a few things.
#1 The media is not librial. Note the Fox channel. (I hate those Jfghsjdkfgdksjg.)
#2 If someone has a defernt preference how does it effect you. It's not like becuase of it you are going to die.
#3 One of my teachers way back in the day was gay. She was one of the best teachers I ever had. I did not matter.
#4 to those who are to closed mining to respece others perfrence :upyours: .

Also. Great book about our media and government is Lies and the lieing liers who tell them, By al Franken. Plus its funny
Neo Kervoskia
03-03-2006, 03:03
As a biasexual ( not sexually attracted to anyone, but can be romantically attracted to either gender), I must say that for $1,000 I will tolerate anybody.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:03
I can admit the beauty in certain automobiles, but that doesn't mean I want to stick my dick in the tailpipe. The key is whether or not your sexually attracted to them, not whether you can admit beauty.
*falls over*
Infinite Revolution
03-03-2006, 03:03
first i'm gunna state my position on this. im bisexual and for me at least gender is simply not a criteria for sexual attraction. i find this:
They don't care who they're with, as long as they get off. Bisexuals are one step from being pedophiles or from having sex with animals or dead bodies.
deeply offensive; age, species, vitality and the ability to give consent are entirely different from gender, which is a purely socially contructed categorisation. I hope you were joking. And the idea that i am just more selfish than my hetero or homo friends is just silly: i think i probably get less sex than any of them.
Swallow your Poison
03-03-2006, 03:05
Homosexual betray their fellow human beings for they degrade the purpose of of species, which is to survive. With that, it can be logically argued that homosexuals are carrying out a genocide, by failing to contribute to our species survival.

Thus homosexuals are morally on the same level as genocidal monsters like Stalin, Mao, Castro and others of their ilk.
Let's apply this silly argument to some other situations.
Say a man masturbates. Oh no, he isn't using perfectly good sperm, and he could be contributing to the survival of the species instead!
Heck, say a man is doing anything. Or a non-pregnant woman is doing anything. They could be having sex instead, and contributing to the survival of the species! To do otherwise is genocide!
So, logically, all humans should copulate desperately until every living woman capable of it is pregnant. Remember, if we don't do this, it's a genocide!
Oh, and after that, since there's not much else one can do to reproduce, homosexuality becomes totally OK!
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:05
Sarcasm, mate.

(And white supremacy - I don't know why I said that. I haven't slept in a while. I was intending to say something about the people who consider homosexuality a sin- and that came out. I don't actually remember typing it. I'll go edit that now.)
No, you're right...in some of his earlier posts, this fellow was yapping on about segregating the races, forcing women to be mothers, and so on. You got the right vibe.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 03:06
*falls over*

Are you alright?
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:07
Personally, I can tolerate most of them, but it's the perverted bis and gays that always talk about sex and stuff like that that I can not stand. The ones that you can't tell by being around them unless they tell you they're gay or bi, those are the ones I can tolerate.:headbang:
Yeah, I can only tolerate the straights that don't talk about sex and stuff like that, and that you can't tell are straight when you're hanging out with them.:headbang:
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:08
No, you're right...in some of his earlier posts, this fellow was yapping on about segregating the races, forcing women to be mothers, and so on. You got the right vibe.Yups. No shame in calling a spade a spade.. Or a WP bonehead a WP Bonehead, as it is. Though I suppose you could call him/it a soon-to-be-extended-hospital-stay.
Caratia
03-03-2006, 03:09
I'm with Infinite here. I'm not one of those "omg i'm trendy" bisexuals. I've been bi probably since seventh grade, before I knew what the hell was even going on.

I just don't use gender as one of my criteria for attractiveness, both physical and emotional.

And honestly, I'm less horny than most of the straight people I know.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:09
No, you're right...in some of his earlier posts, this fellow was yapping on about segregating the races, forcing women to be mothers, and so on. You got the right vibe.

YES! My incoherent babble has purpose.

I probably wrote that with those thoughts in the back of my mind- I had skimmed over the thread but not read the entire thing word-for-word.

Regardless, I've found that at times one belief (homophobia) can be directly related to another (religious/racial superiority). So that also could be the hat I pulled that out of.

Thank you for validifying me.:D
Atias
03-03-2006, 03:09
i dont see why people can't tolerate bisexuals. im completely heterosexual but i dont see whats so wrong about homo/bisexuality. it doesnt really affect me so why lose sleep over it? people choose for themselves so stop trying to tell other people what to do.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:09
Okay and my belief is that you could be straight/gay/bi/whatever and change if you wanted to.

You see people convert from different religions all the time.Dose that make any of them right, and all the others wornge.
Of course not.
People aren't born with religion.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:09
Religion is purely a matter of choice. You are born a certain sexuality.
Is it really the different.
Take this for example.
Two people where born.
One persons dad died and Blue flowers was put on his grave.
Now when ever that person sees blue flowers it makes him think of his father so he begins to hate blue flowers.
The other was given blue flowers for his birthday or something and so he lives life loving blue flowers.
The first person wasnt born hating blue flowers just like a person isnt born gay or born Christan.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:09
Yups. No shame in calling a spade a spade.. Or a WP bonehead a WP Bonehead, as it is. Though I suppose you could call him/it a soon-to-be-extended-hospital-stay.
Or maybe just a bigotted idiot.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:10
Is it really the different.
Take this for example.
Two people where born.
One persons dad died and Blue flowers was put on his grave.
Now when ever that person sees blue flowers it makes him think of his father so he begins to hate blue flowers.
The other was given blue flowers for his birthday or something and so he lives life loving blue flowers.
The first person wasnt born hating blue flowers just like a person isnt born gay or born Christan.
Please, do me a favour and read up on sexuality. You are severely impaired in terms of knowledge on the matter. Broaden your mind lest the foolishness spread.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:10
Are you alright?
Yes, that was just too funny...I pictured a man sticking his dick into the tailpipe of a Porche:)
Valori
03-03-2006, 03:10
Yeah, I can.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 03:12
Yes, that was just too funny...I pictured a man sticking his dick into the tailpipe of a Porche:)

Oh. Well, for a Porsche....;)

And admit it. You just wanted an excuse to picture my penis.
Infinite Revolution
03-03-2006, 03:12
*snip*

i was going to come up with a comprehensive argument addessing each of your points individually and utterly destroying them but, since most of them have been dealt with already and i've had a couple of beers so i can't be bothered waisting my time with you, i will just settle with this:

die
Naked Voodoo
03-03-2006, 03:12
I'm bisexual.

Not "lesbian in denial." Not confused.

Not promiscuous and not slutty. Into monogamy. Into relationships. Entirely possible that someday I will be spending the rest of my life with either one man or one woman.

Comfortable enough with my self and sexuality to spend stretches of my life alone.

But I know that suppressing or denying my attraction to either gender would only be lying to myself. And I deserve better than that.

I didn't choose my sexual orientation, but neither am I ashamed of it.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:12
Is it really the different.
Take this for example.
Two people where born.
One persons dad died and Blue flowers was put on his grave.
Now when ever that person sees blue flowers it makes him think of his father so he begins to hate blue flowers.
The other was given blue flowers for his birthday or something and so he lives life loving blue flowers.
The first person wasnt born hating blue flowers just like a person isnt born gay or born Christan.

I'm just trying to picture a situation in which a young boy would get a gay man for his birthday.
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:12
Yeah, I can only tolerate the straights that don't talk about sex and stuff like that, and that you can't tell are straight when you're hanging out with them.:headbang:In the interest of fairness, there's a whole lot of gays I can't stand being around. There's times & places for everything, but 24/7 to me, isn't automatically the right time to listen to other people's sexcapades. Heteros usually aren't obnoxious about it, in my experience.
The Bruce
03-03-2006, 03:13
I've dated some bisexual women and had no problem with it at all. Really, it's snoring that bothers me.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 03:15
I can sympathise with your view, but don't let your guard down.

All homosexuals and bisexuals are the same, perverts who live in sin who propagate their decadence and thus corrupt the innocents with promises of a tempting lifestlye full of hedonism and non-stop self enjoyment and gratification.

They seek to deceive, trust nor tolerate any of them.

Propgate their decadence?
Corrupt innocents with promises of a tempting lifestyle?
Don't let your guard down?
And the other post- "I'm okay with it as long as I can't tell/they don't tell me"? Than YOU AREN'T OKAY WITH IT.
But, talking to the dogmatic one, I argue with you because I would feel worse if I didn't, not because I think I'll convince you.

Has a gay man or woman ever come up and promised you eternal ecstasy if you turned to the Gay Side?
Considering how unaccepting you are, how do YOU know if they seek to deceive? How do you know what they want? Have you ever become friends with one? When has ANYONE EVER propositioned you to fuck someone of your sex against your will?

Funny, though.. I think the ones with an agenda are people who are trying to convert others to heterosexuality.

You just make me sick, that people think like this. If you aren't it, and you haven't really talked about it with the people who are, can you judge? No. No you fucking can't. But I can respond to the beliefs you have put forth, knowing what they are. And you can respond to mine. You CANNOT, however, DECIDE ON YOUR OWN what homosexuals/bisexuals want, or are trying to pull. You don't have the evidence.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:15
In the interest of fairness, there's a whole lot of gays I can't stand being around. There's times & places for everything, but 24/7 to me, isn't automatically the right time to listen to other people's sexcapades. Heteros usually aren't obnoxious about it, in my experience.
The guy who I was replying to, in essence, was saying that bis and gays should not talk about sex, and should hide their sexuality. My point was that hets are not so constrained.
Sdaeriji
03-03-2006, 03:15
I'm bisexual.

Not "lesbian in denial." Not confused.

Not promiscuous and not slutty. Into monogamy. Into relationships. Entirely possible that someday I will be spending the rest of my life with either one man or one woman.

Comfortable enough with my self and sexuality to spend stretches of my life alone.

But I know that suppressing or denying my attraction to either gender would only be lying to myself. And I deserve better than that.

I didn't choose my sexual orientation, but neither am I ashamed of it.

Where the heck is the Winter Lettuce capital of the world?
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 03:18
I'm just trying to picture a situation in which a young boy would get a gay man for his birthday.

That made me laugh.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:18
Please, do me a favour and read up on sexuality. You are severely impaired in terms of knowledge on the matter. Broaden your mind lest the foolishness spread.
If your just here to flame people who dont think like you then your wasting your time.
I see no difference.

The Break of Dawn - "I'm just trying to picture a situation in which a young boy would get a gay man for his birthday."

LOL I dont think their is one.
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:18
Where the heck is the Winter Lettuce capital of the world?

I second this.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:19
If your just here to flame people how dont think like you then your wasting your time.
I see no difference.

I am not here to flame. Yet you constantly seem to ignore all posts which indicate that sexuality is a bit more than choice. Thus, I am beginning to assume you are dogmatic in your belief.
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:19
If your just here to flame people how dont think like you then your wasting your time.
I see no difference.

The Break of Dawn - "I'm just trying to picture a situation in which a young boy would get a gay man for his birthday."

LOL I dont think their is one.

First of all, he's not flaming you in the least. You're trolling with your bullshit.

Second... What the fuck?
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:21
The guy who I was replying to, in essence, was saying that bis and gays should not talk about sex, and should hide their sexuality. My point was that hets are not so constrained.Ah, sorry then. This thread is growing too damn fast.

I'm curious though. How would the various posters here react if they found out they'd fallen in love with a bi?

I don't normally broardcast my sexual orientation, so I did once put a girl in that situation. Not that she minded, but she was a bit thrown.
Kravania
03-03-2006, 03:23
Propgate their decadence?
Corrupt innocents with promises of a tempting lifestyle?
Don't let your guard down?
And the other post- "I'm okay with it as long as I can't tell/they don't tell me"? Than YOU AREN'T OKAY WITH IT.
But, talking to the dogmatic one, I argue with you because I would feel worse if I didn't, not because I think I'll convince you.

Has a gay man or woman ever come up and promised you eternal ecstasy if you turned to the Gay Side?
Considering how unaccepting you are, how do YOU know if they seek to deceive? How do you know what they want? Have you ever become friends with one? When has ANYONE EVER propositioned you to fuck someone of your sex against your will?

Funny, though.. I think the ones with an agenda are people who are trying to convert others to heterosexuality.

You just make me sick, that people think like this. If you aren't it, and you haven't really talked about it with the people who are, can you judge? No. No you fucking can't. But I can respond to the beliefs you have put forth, knowing what they are. And you can respond to mine. You CANNOT, however, DECIDE ON YOUR OWN what homosexuals/bisexuals want, or are trying to pull. You don't have the evidence.

Homosexuality and the lifestyle is promotes is a great temptation, for I speak from personal experience.

For in the past, I did have sex with men.

But now, I realise that I made a mistake.

I repented and asked for forgiveness, but God will decide my fate in the next life, just that I don't want to perish in Hell when I die.

I am actually not attracted to women and have now decided that not having any sexual partners is the best course for me, for I cannot be with women neither can I let myself fall into sin again.

For there is no point in asking for another chance when you destroyed your second chance.

But leaving homosexuality is possible, although it is a struggle.

But I was blessed with a forgiving and helpful clergy at my church.
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:24
...
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 03:24
Is it really the different.
Take this for example.
Two people where born.
One persons dad died and Blue flowers was put on his grave.
Now when ever that person sees blue flowers it makes him think of his father so he begins to hate blue flowers.
The other was given blue flowers for his birthday or something and so he lives life loving blue flowers.
The first person wasnt born hating blue flowers just like a person isnt born gay or born Christan.

Ah.. so.. did you have a bad gay experience when you were little so you decided to hate gay people?
And every other gay person had a good experience when they were little, and bisexuals had some really great threesomes, so they decided to be it for the rest of their lives?
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:24
I am not here to flame. Yet you constantly seem to ignore all posts which indicate that sexuality is a bit more than choice. Thus, I am beginning to assume you are dogmatic in your belief.
Im not ignoring them.
I see what your talking about, but it could very well be the other way around.
And if you dont think that it "could" be then you are dogmatic in your belief.

The way your making me sound is as if one day some gay guy could just wake up and say "Hey everbody Im going to be straght today."
But if someone wanted to be straight then he could.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:25
*snip*
You remind me of a rabid madman who thinks he has found the light, albeit with a religious twist to it, in that you excuse bigotry by hiding behind misinterpreted Dogma.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:26
*snip*

You're seriously never going to fuck again, because you found a religion that told you what you liked was bad?

You're very strange, if you don't mind me saying so.

Unless you're pulling one on all of us- which I am suspecting.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:27
Im not ignoring them.
I see what your talking about, but it could very well be the other way around.
And if you dont think that it "could" be then you are dogmatic in your belief.

The way your making me sound is as if one day some gay guy could just wake up and say "Hey everbody Im going to be straght today."
But if someone wanted to be straight then he could.
I am not dogmatic in my belief. Yet so far, most evidence points to it being a matter of genetics. And trust me, my sexuality is most certainly not a matter of choice. If anything, I am more like a power-hungry female in the wrong body.
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:27
Unless you're pulling one on all of us- which I am suspecting.

You're suspecting, and I'm hoping.

*opens a bag of chips and passes it around*
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:27
Homosexuality and the lifestyle is promotes is a great temptation, for I speak from personal experience.

For in the past, I did have sex with men.

But now, I realise that I made a mistake.


Ah. A closet homo a la American Beauty.
Except I suspect it's all bs. Major trollage.
Kravania
03-03-2006, 03:27
You're seriously never going to fuck again, because you found a religion that told you what you liked was bad?

You're very strange, if you don't mind me saying so.

Unless you're pulling one on all of us- which I am suspecting.

Abstinence is a hard struggle, but I'd rather that for the remainder of my life than be in Hell, when I die.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:28
Ah.. so.. did you have a bad gay experience when you were little so you decided to hate gay people?
And every other gay person had a good experience when they were little, and bisexuals had some really great threesomes, so they decided to be it for the rest of their lives?
No but I think that you are streching what I said.
And I never said I hated gay people.
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:28
Homosexuality and the lifestyle is promotes is a great temptation, for I speak from personal experience.Why is it I don't believe you?
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:28
Abstinence is a hard struggle, but I'd rather that for the remainder of my life than be in Hell, when I die.
Do tell me what the decor is like in Hell, I am just dying to know.
Jerusalas
03-03-2006, 03:29
Abstinence is a hard struggle, but I'd rather that for the remainder of my life than be in Hell, when I die.

God either understands what you're going through and what you've been through and He'll forgive you. Or He doesn't and won't, in which case He is not God.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:30
Abstinence is a hard struggle, but I'd rather that for the remainder of my life than be in Hell, when I die.

Oh, well. Good luck with that.

Personally, I'd rather have sex and be rewarded by many beautiful women in my afterlife. That's what my religion tells me what happens posthumously.
Infinite Revolution
03-03-2006, 03:30
Ah, sorry then. This thread is growing too damn fast.

I'm curious though. How would the various posters here react if they found out they'd fallen in love with a bi?

I don't normally broardcast my sexual orientation, so I did once put a girl in that situation. Not that she minded, but she was a bit thrown.

i'm interested too. from other conversations i've had with straight people about this (mostly girls) they would be seriously put off if they found out their male partner was bi which was somewhat depressing to me. i think the main problem they had was wondering where the penis had been before them and worry that a bi partner would want to try anal with them. as far as im aware gays dont have as much of a problem with bisexuality although one of my gay friends was convinved for years that it simply did not exist and was just down to confusion or greed.
The Dark Flame Dragon
03-03-2006, 03:31
Can I tolerate them if I can get two who are girls then yeah of course
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:31
Do tell me what the decor is like in Hell, I am just dying to know.

Oh, the irony.
HarmonyAlexandria
03-03-2006, 03:31
No.
They are only in denial.
You are either one or the other.
People really should know what the hell they are talking about before they spout their opinions on the matter

Human sexuality falls on a bell curve, homo/hetero sexuality are the two tails of the curve, everyone in the middle is bisexual to varying degrees.

Kinsey wrote a book about this.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:32
Oh, the irony.
Isn't it sweet? :)
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:33
Isn't it sweet? :)

It made me groan and shake my head. Which is the ultimate compliment of good irony.
Amarnaiy
03-03-2006, 03:34
If God came up to me and said: "____, my child, I am unhappy with your sexual preferences." then maybe I might change, just for Him. But so far, God hasn't just appeared to me and said do, so I believe that He loves me anyways. And if I'm wrong, then let my reward be Hell forever.
Sockcucker
03-03-2006, 03:34
There are some things my faith (Catholicism) says in its Dogma that I don't agree with. For example, they say any form of homosexuality (incl. bisexuality) is against God's will, but in most cases is what they call "Natural" or a "Chemical Imbalance similar to depression". I dated a couple bisexuals and they aren't horrible people, nor are they sinners. My girlfriends always told me if they did anything, but they did it of their own free will (I doubt all bisexuals are like that but,) and if they hadn't told me, I wouldn't have cared. Infact, I'm still close friends with a couple of them and they do the same for their current boyfriends, although their boyfriends aren't so laid back. Either way, bisexuality is a choice just like whether you want to be a lawyer who cheats someone out of their money (no offense to you lawyers out there reading this) or a pro-bono lawyer for the persecuted poor who can't afford a lawyer.
Kravania
03-03-2006, 03:35
The thing is, homosexuals can escape their decadence, it's just that they need to believe in themselves and come to terms with their true identity.

Will power is also needed if you wish to leave homosexuality.

But it is possible, despite what the liberals and communists will have you think otherwise, with their statements that you just accept your sinful ways and not to try and better yourself as a person.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:37
The thing is, homosexuals can escape their decadence, it's just that they need to believe in themselves and come to terms with their true identity.

Will power is also needed if you wish to leave homosexuality.

But it is possible, despite what the liberals and communists will have you think otherwise, with their statements that you just accept your sinful ways and not to try and better yourself as a person.
How exactly do your views of racial segregation coincide with what Jesus taught to begin with?

You are flawed in your belief if you think bigotry and self-repression is the way to Heaven, or to any life worth living.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:38
I am not dogmatic in my belief. Yet so far, most evidence points to it being a matter of genetics. And trust me, my sexuality is most certainly not a matter of choice. If anything, I am more like a power-hungry female in the wrong body.
Okay I trust you.
But dose that mean that you are a slave to your emotions like the sterotype of women states.
Of course not. Nobody are "slaves" to their emotions.
Then dont you think its possible for you to turn straight.
I once met a girl that said that she had so many bad relationships with guys that she was going to try being lesbo.
Im sure it would take alot of work to change oneself.
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 03:38
Homosexuality and the lifestyle is promotes is a great temptation, for I speak from personal experience.

For in the past, I did have sex with men.

But now, I realise that I made a mistake.

I repented and asked for forgiveness, but God will decide my fate in the next life, just that I don't want to perish in Hell when I die.

I am actually not attracted to women and have now decided that not having any sexual partners is the best course for me, for I cannot be with women neither can I let myself fall into sin again.

For there is no point in asking for another chance when you destroyed your second chance.

But leaving homosexuality is possible, although it is a struggle.

But I was blessed with a forgiving and helpful clergy at my church.

What lifestyle? Living like everyone else but doing guys?
And you didn't answer, even though there was the "All they seek is to deceive! They propogate their decadence!" When? How? Have they ever come up and lied to you that having buttsex would make all your problems go away-- (But accepting in God will make EVERYTHING better... hey.. wait..)

Also, the other K name that I keep mixing up with the above: You have basically implied it. Strongly. If you haven't actually said the words 'I hate gays, rawr.' Informing us that something is sick and wrong kind of says you don't like it at all.


Also, not to say that all gay guys want/have buttsex <.<;;
Soheran
03-03-2006, 03:38
Bisexuality doesn't bother me in the slightest. It makes far more sense to me than either homosexuality or heterosexuality does.

Most of us are probably at least a little bisexual, and if we didn't pigeonhole ourselves narrowly into sexual categories, we might be happier.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:40
Okay I trust you.
But dose that mean that you are a slave to your emotions like the sterotype of women states.
Of course not. Nobody are "slaves" to their emotions.
Then dont you think its possible for you to turn straight.
I once met a girl that said that she had so many bad relationships with guys that she was going to try being lesbo.
Im sure it would take alot of work to change oneself.
For me? No, it's most definitely not. The only way would be deluding myself into such a belief via hypnotherapy, and even then the methods employed are convincing me of a lie. If genetics is indeed involved, this is further compounded.
Amarnaiy
03-03-2006, 03:42
Bisexuality doesn't bother me in the slightest. It makes far more sense to me than either homosexuality or heterosexuality does.

Most of us are probably at least a little bisexual, and if we didn't pigeonhole ourselves narrowly into sexual categories, we might be happier.

It's people like you that make me happy. I often think that way...
Kravania
03-03-2006, 03:42
How exactly do your views of racial segregation coincide with what Jesus taught to begin with?

You are flawed in your belief if you think bigotry and self-repression is the way to Heaven, or to any life worth living.

If God wanted once race in humanity he would of made it so.

Remember the tower of Babel?

People tried to reach heaven by building the tower of Babel, thus God struck them down and prevented the human race from taking over his Divine authority by making many languages.

Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly." And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said,

"Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."
Kirkico
03-03-2006, 03:42
In the words of Andrew Dice Clay, "There's no inbetween here, there's no middle ground. What--do these people wake up in the morning and flip a coin to decide? Heads--I want hairpie, Tails--balls across the nose!!" They seriously need to make up their minds because it is just plain selfish.
Infinite Revolution
03-03-2006, 03:43
The thing is, homosexuals can escape their decadence, it's just that they need to believe in themselves and come to terms with their true identity.

Will power is also needed if you wish to leave homosexuality.

But it is possible, despite what the liberals and communists will have you think otherwise, with their statements that you just accept your sinful ways and not to try and better yourself as a person.

I believe in myself as a bisexual. it is not an addiction and i have no wish to be otherwise. execution (your recommendation for homosexuals/bisexuals) is sinful according to your god. even in the old testament there is the passage that says "an eye for an eye, a ...[something] for a ...[something]" so according to this, if their is to be a punishment for a homosexual it should be forced intercourse with a member of the opposite sex. which is quite clearly sinful and completely immoral to boot.
UpwardThrust
03-03-2006, 03:44
No.
They are only in denial.
You are either one or the other.
You sir ar ignorant
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:44
*snip*
Languages are linked to the concept of ethnicity, not race. By virtue of what you said, white interbreeding is also strictly forbidden.
Cattiwampi
03-03-2006, 03:44
In the immortal words of the great Spanish movie El Otro Lado de la Cama, "Todos somos bisexuales":D
Potarius
03-03-2006, 03:44
How exactly do your views of racial segregation coincide with what Jesus taught to begin with?

You are flawed in your belief if you think bigotry and self-repression is the way to Heaven, or to any life worth living.

*hands you a cookie*
UpwardThrust
03-03-2006, 03:45
In the words of Andrew Dice Clay, "There's no inbetween here, there's no middle ground. What--do these people wake up in the morning and flip a coin to decide? Heads--I want hairpie, Tails--balls across the nose!!" They seriously need to make up their minds because it is just plain selfish.
How is it selfish to like both? what makes it "selfish"?

Thats like saying liking both red and blond haired women is "selfish" it dont make any sence
Kravania
03-03-2006, 03:47
If you take that peice of scripture and use it in this context in a literal sense.

But it was posted to make a point, that God does not want humanity to become one whole group, for we are not.
UpwardThrust
03-03-2006, 03:47
If God wanted once race in humanity he would of made it so.

Remember the tower of Babel?

People tried to reach heaven by building the tower of Babel, thus God struck them down and prevented the human race from taking over his Divine authority by making many languages.

Come, let us make bricks, and burn them thoroughly." And they had brick for stone, and bitumen for mortar. Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said,

"Behold, they are one people, and they have all one language; and this is only the beginning of what they will do; and nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them. Come, let us go down, and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech."


Thanks for showing us what an asshole the proposed christian god is
We are in your debt
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:47
The thing is, homosexuals can escape their decadence, it's just that they need to believe in themselves and come to terms with their true identity.

Will power is also needed if you wish to leave homosexuality.

But it is possible, despite what the liberals and communists will have you think otherwise, with their statements that you just accept your sinful ways and not to try and better yourself as a person.What decadence?
What "true identity"?

According to yourself, you can't "leave homosexuality". All you've managed is to forfeit all but your dirty little mitts.

Despite what you say, I'm neither Liberal, Communist or Christian. According to my belief system, you deserve your own judgement. According to my belief system, your god is nothing but forced paranoia & acute schizophrenia, for which you need therapy immediately.

According to my belief system, Fascist scum have aptly demonstrated that they wish to kill me & pretty much everyone I call friends. Seen in that light, my belief system dictates that I should protect my own, and effectively end all means you might have to achieve your vile & murderous agenda.

According to you, gays should be put to death. Yet here you are, writing about your miserable excuse for a gay existence. Why do you not act on your beliefs, you bloody hypocrite? Kill yourself. Now. If suicide is a sin in your mind, have someone else put you out of your misery.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:49
If you take that peice of scripture and use it in this context in a literal sense.

But it was posted to make a point, that God does not want humanity to become one whole group, for we are not.
Yet if not to take it in its literal sense it becomes subjective, and therefore of no universal, inherent value. Indeed, our differences exist and are an example of humanity's diversity and I'd be sad for them to be homogeneised. Yet theological belief is mute on the point of different groups, and it most definitely does not extend to endorsing racism as you expressed.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:50
Thanks for showing us what an asshole the proposed christian god is
We are in your debt
I have already showed him his error. It is a misinterpretation of God based on subjective opinion. Oh, and this God originates from Judaism and extends to Islam, and all related religions.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:51
For me? No, it's most definitely not. The only way would be deluding myself into such a belief via hypnotherapy, and even then the methods employed are convincing me of a lie. If genetics is indeed involved, this is further compounded.
Okay then.
Im hope that you can see where Im coming from.

So is the gay gene Domanit or Resesive. LOL
No one will know because two gay people cant make a baby.
Sinuhue
03-03-2006, 03:51
In the words of Andrew Dice Clay, "There's no inbetween here, there's no middle ground. What--do these people wake up in the morning and flip a coin to decide? Heads--I want hairpie, Tails--balls across the nose!!" They seriously need to make up their minds because it is just plain selfish.
:rolleyes: The puppets are crawling out of the woodwork on this one.

This whole 'selfish' thing...give me a break. People fuck because it feels good. Some people do it and don't care about the other person. Others can only do it within a relationship. Being gay, bi, or straight is not going to determine who does what.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:52
Okay then.
Im hope that you can see where Im coming from.

So is the gay gene Domanit or Resesive. LOL
No one will know because two gay people cant make a baby.
For now, no. Technology is advancing rapidly enough. And I think lesbians can conceive by the way using existing technology.

Research into DNA can find out either way.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:52
*hands you a cookie*

This made me giggle.

Consider the fact that I am a 6 foot 4, 200 pound man who is as heterosexual as they get, this is quite a feat.

Congratulations. I say you keep that cookie for yourself.
Infinite Revolution
03-03-2006, 03:52
Thanks for showing us what an asshole the proposed christian god is
We are in your debt

ha ha! nice one :D
The UN abassadorship
03-03-2006, 03:52
Homosexuality and the lifestyle is promotes is a great temptation, for I speak from personal experience.

For in the past, I did have sex with men.

But now, I realise that I made a mistake.

I repented and asked for forgiveness, but God will decide my fate in the next life, just that I don't want to perish in Hell when I die.

I am actually not attracted to women and have now decided that not having any sexual partners is the best course for me, for I cannot be with women neither can I let myself fall into sin again.

For there is no point in asking for another chance when you destroyed your second chance.

But leaving homosexuality is possible, although it is a struggle.

But I was blessed with a forgiving and helpful clergy at my church.
If your not attracted to women, how can you choose to be gay? You had sex with men, wasnt it fun? didnt you like it? why would you deny yourself what you feel naturally?
UpwardThrust
03-03-2006, 03:52
Okay then.
Im hope that you can see where Im coming from.

So is the gay gene Domanit or Resesive. LOL
No one will know because two gay people cant make a baby.
They are sterile? I never knew that
St Mane
03-03-2006, 03:52
Of course i can... in fact the people I cant and wont tolerate are the people who dont tolerate other peoples sexual preferances. I find those people disgusting, and personally I dont think that anyone who, "cant" tolerate bisexuals or can "only tolerate female bisexuals", should be allowed in the UN at all... because obviously they are too ignorant to be let run their own country.
The UN abassadorship
03-03-2006, 03:53
:rolleyes: The puppets are crawling out of the woodwork on this one.

This whole 'selfish' thing...give me a break. People fuck because it feels good. Some people do it and don't care about the other person. Others can only do it within a relationship. Being gay, bi, or straight is not going to determine who does what.
actually, it feels great.
The Break of Dawn
03-03-2006, 03:53
So is the gay gene Domanit or Resesive.

Apparently the spelling gene skipped a generation.

(And I KNOW that sure as hell isn't how you spell Dominant or Recessive in the UK, Canada, France, Germany, Zimbabwe, or anywhere else.)
Nureonia
03-03-2006, 03:53
I wouldn't be dating a bisexual girl if I couldn't tolerate them. :rolleyes:
Amarnaiy
03-03-2006, 03:54
I highly dislike people who take everything in the Bible literally. I suppose you're a Creationist? Oh well. I don't actually care, it's your beliefs. I have mine, you have yours. I follow the Ten Commandments, and I follow the teachings of Jesus. Now please, darling, do tell me what you're doing for Lent.
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:54
For now, no. Technology is advancing rapidly enough. And I think lesbians can conceive by the way using existing technology.

Research into DNA can find out either way.
Yeah I understand that.
As long as the Republicans dont try and outlaw all cloneing. LOL

But I really wasnt being serious.
Jerusalas
03-03-2006, 03:54
If you take that peice of scripture and use it in this context in a literal sense.

But it was posted to make a point, that God does not want humanity to become one whole group, for we are not.

Apparently, God doesn't have a problem with us mongrel Americans making it to the moon.

Of course, then I guess that this God must also be responsible for genocide against many peoples, the destruction of human lives over and over again. This God, the God of the Old Testament, is nothing but an oppressive tyrant.

Cross over to the other side, the God of the New Testament and of Jesus Christ. (pun intended)

Given your apparent love for the oppressor of the Old Testament, it surprises me not that you believe that facsism is a good and noble path.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:55
Yeah I understand that.
As long as the Republicans dont try and outlaw all cloneing. LOL

But I really wasnt being serious.
The Republicans have no power in Europe. :)
Desbrozen
03-03-2006, 03:55
It makes me feel better that a lot of people are saying what I mean to say when I hear these things. People +12 :D
Wrathful Angry Unforgiving God, -78
Current Score:
WAUG: -250,734
People: 300
>.>
The Similized world
03-03-2006, 03:56
In the words of Andrew Dice Clay, "There's no inbetween here, there's no middle ground. What--do these people wake up in the morning and flip a coin to decide? Heads--I want hairpie, Tails--balls across the nose!!" They seriously need to make up their minds because it is just plain selfish.Alright, I take it this means that it is wholly inconcievable for you & your Clay friend to have sex for any reason other than self-gratification?

Thank Dog I've never had sex with either of you - though I bet your dentist would want me to. Don't throw stones when you live in a glass house you runt.
Dubya 1000
03-03-2006, 03:56
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I dont know, because i dont personally know any

Bisexuals, yes.

Homosexuals, yes.

Transexuals, no. :upyours:
Hanwu
03-03-2006, 03:57
as long as they don't harm anyone, I don't care about their sexual preference
Koryakia
03-03-2006, 03:57
Apparently the spelling gene skipped a generation.

(And I KNOW that sure as hell isn't how you spell Dominant or Recessive in the UK, Canada, France, Germany, Zimbabwe, or anywhere else.)
Sorry I dont have perfect spelling skills.
At least I got it close enough to where you can tell what I said.
Europa Maxima
03-03-2006, 03:57
Bisexuals, yes.

Homosexuals, yes.

Transexuals, no. :upyours:
They do tend to be a bit creepy, but each to their own. Not an avenue I'd pursue in any case.
Naked Voodoo
03-03-2006, 03:59
Where the heck is the Winter Lettuce capital of the world?

That knowledge is reserved for those with adequate research skills.