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I like asians. Because they're fucking MODERN. You know, civilised and shit? Capable of conversation without slitting your throat if you disagree with them?

You mean like how the Japanese were "fucking MODERN" and "civilized and shit" during World War 2, Junior?

Rape of Nanking, anyone?

How about the occupation of Korea?

Or the Bataan Death March?

And let's not forget The Bridge Over the River Kwai either.

Yeah, only Muslims are the Evil People Who Need To Be Nuked Out Of Existence.

:rolleyes:

I'm not sure if that original image is photoshopped. I know that it's easy to change a protest sign, god knows I've done it enough times! But to be honest, I don't particularly care if it's real or not. The important thing is that when a lot of people see these kinds of signs (Or better yet, the 'Behead those who insult Islam' signs) it enrages some of them so much that they can't think rationally. They end up having such feelings of bitter hatred towards islam that it clouds their judgement and prevents them from looking deeper into it, looking into what signs the other protestors are holding or even looking into wether the image is real or fake.

This is why I think it would have been fantastic if the recent 'peaceful' muslim protests in Trafalgar Square were given a bit of a spin from our wonderful newspapers. It would have been so easy for some reporter to chgange a sign that says 'Islam deserves respect' into 'Behead the infidels' or 'Islam will prevail by the sword'. Then put it on the front page. It would have been well worth it for all the bitterness it would have caused.

Gee, Who do think was more prevalent in SS -- muslims or Christians?

Hitler had lots of friends in high places -- including the U.S. and in many Christian organizations.

Your not winning any points with this mud-throwing.
No Buddhists, as I recall.

While you may keep yourself just to the Koran, most Muslims do not.

Qu'ran and Sunnah, actually. I ignore hadith that contain innovation or new prohibitions. Not even Mohammad himself was allowed to innovate upon Qu'ran nor was he allowed to prohibit that which Qu'ran did not.

There are thousands of false hadith. Any of them that say to slaughter Jews is a false hadith. Guaranteed.

No Buddhists, as I recall.

Except those Yellow Aryans, most of whom were Buddhist.

There are thousands of false hadith. Any of them that say to slaughter Jews is a false hadith. Guaranteed.

Unfortunately, I doubt most of the Western World wants to hear that, given their current masturbatory fixation on "Muslims are Evil, Wicked Jewicidal Hiveminds who want to take over the world!!"

Qu'ran and Sunnah, actually. I ignore hadith that contain innovation or new prohibitions. Not even Mohammad himself was allowed to innovate upon Qu'ran nor was he allowed to prohibit that which Qu'ran did not.

There are thousands of false hadith. Any of them that say to slaughter Jews is a false hadith. Guaranteed.

Like I said, you can say that all you like - it doesn't change what millions of them believe. Not one bit.

Hey, I like to think that Christianity is only what Jesus said, but millions of Christians don't buy that - they think that Paul was also an authority (or THE authority).

Can't ignore a thousand years of Islamic scholarship and tradition, especially when it's taught in madrassas.

What I don't get is that we didn't get this reaction on anything related to Islam or Arabs until some Dane drew a picture.

Heck, you can invade Iraq, tell the world you're fighting against Muslim extremists, and Muslims can kill helpless women on TV - and no outrage like the outrage you see now.

You mean like how the Japanese were "fucking MODERN" and "civilized and shit" during World War 2, Junior?

Rape of Nanking, anyone?

How about the occupation of Korea?

Or the Bataan Death March?

And let's not forget The Bridge Over the River Kwai either.

Yeah, only Muslims are the Evil People Who Need To Be Nuked Out Of Existence.

:rolleyes:

Are you suggesting nuking the ME, or is this just another of those pointless parades through history that people offer up when they have nothing relevant to say?

Are you suggesting nuking the ME, or is this just another of those pointless parades through history that people offer up when they have nothing relevant to say?
To Gauthier, anyone who currently has any anti-Western sentiments is a great person (great people), and no matter how ridiculously violent they get, it's all to the good.

Unfortunately, I doubt most of the Western World wants to hear that, given their current masturbatory fixation on "Muslims are Evil, Wicked Jewicidal Hiveminds who want to take over the world!!"

It's not the west that needs to hear that there are false hadith, they don't beleive in them anyway.

It's the people that currently believe these false hadith that need to hear it.

It's also worth noting that since this is a religion, nothing is true or false anyway.

It's not the west that needs to hear that there are false hadith, they don't beleive in them anyway.

It's the people that currently believe these false hadith that need to hear it.

It's also worth noting that since this is a religion, nothing is true or false anyway.

Well, as was just pointed out in a thread on Communism, there are many Communists who like to distance themselves from the brutality of the various Communist regimes through history - by saying that "those people weren't really Communist".

Groups who believe in a certain ideology should be judged by the results of their actions - not what their little books say.

Anything else is trying to dodge and deny.

To Gauthier, anyone who currently has any anti-Western sentiments is a great person (great people), and no matter how ridiculously violent they get, it's all to the good.

Again this from someone who bitches, sobs and weeps about having words put into his mouth. And the same old "He doesn't want Muslims slaughtered so he must want the West destroyed!!" ad hominem from you. Come up with something fresh and innovative.

:rolleyes:

Again this from someone who bitches, sobs and weeps about having words put into his mouth. And the same old "He doesn't want Muslims slaughtered so he must want the West destroyed!!" ad hominem from you. Come up with something fresh and innovative.

:rolleyes:

So, tell me how ridiculous you think the Muslims are (specifically and only the ones who are rioting and burning and killing because of a cartoon).

Or not.

So, tell me how ridiculous you think the Muslims are (specifically and only the ones who are rioting and burning and killing because of a cartoon).

Or not.

Gee, since when do we need a special pageant to condemn religious extremist fruitcakes who carry out assinine or downright sociopathic behavior?

It's Western double-standard you emphasize here. You want Muslims as a whole to condemn these acts otherwise you assume they all support it. Yet when an abortion clinic is bombed or a homosexual is brutally murdered nobody expects Christians to unanimously condemn their acts or assume they all support it.

It's Western double-standard you emphasize here. You want Muslims as a whole to condemn these acts otherwise you assume they all support it. Yet when an abortion clinic is bombed or a homosexual is brutally murdered nobody expects Christians to unanimously condemn their acts or assume they all support it.

I actually know quite a few people who expect exactly that from Christians. And Muslems. And in fact from any person who has chosen to affiliate him/herself with a group.

I actually know quite a few people who expect exactly that from Christians. And Muslems. And in fact from any person who has chosen to affiliate him/herself with a group.

But will such outrage towards people who commit crimes in the name of Christianity ever be displayed on Western Media at all, much less the same as displays of outrage against Islamic criminals?

The answer is, Never.

I actually know quite a few people who expect exactly that from Christians. And Muslems. And in fact from any person who has chosen to affiliate him/herself with a group.
As a Christian, I condemn abortion clinic bombings.

I might add that if Gauthier bothered to read my posts, he would see that I don't condemn ALL Muslims. Just a lot of them.

As for Gauthier, he is completely incapable of condemning them for their violence.

I hope he enjoys his dhimmitude, and I hope that he always pays his jizya tax for being a non-believer.

As a Christian, I condemn abortion clinic bombings.

I might add that if Gauthier bothered to read my posts, he would see that I don't condemn ALL Muslims. Just a lot of them.

As for Gauthier, he is completely incapable of condemning them for their violence.

I hope he enjoys his dhimmitude, and I hope that he always pays his jizya tax for being a non-believer.

More ad hominem from Mister "Don't Put Words in MY Mouth, Waaah!"

:gundge:

Why do I need to specifically condemn an act that anyone with half a brain cell can see is sociopathic and criminal?

And gee, you sure like to wank on that word "Dhimmmitude" like anyone who doesn't agree with you on how EVIL Muslims are is an Islamic Zombie.

:rolleyes:

And gee, you sure like to wank on that word "Dhimmmitude" like anyone who doesn't agree with you on how EVIL Muslims are is an Islamic Zombie.

:rolleyes:
Anyone who doesn't oppose the idea of dhimmitude is a dhimmi (or a Moslem).

Your choice.

Anyone who doesn't oppose the idea of dhimmitude is a dhimmi (or a Moslem).

Your choice.

So you DO believe Muslims are EVIL then. Oh yeah, that's why you cream your pants everytime you kill one man, woman or child.

And what difference will it make if I formally declare a condemnation of the fruitcakes? They'll go on doing whatever the fuck they feel like. Unless I'm Superman my condemnation isn't going to make it stop.

:rolleyes:

Groups ... should be judged by the results of their actions - not what their little books say.

Anything else is trying to dodge and deny.Groups/Peoples/Nations ... should be judged by the results of their actions - not what their little history books (or hollywood) say.
Anything else is trying to dodge and deny.

See? sometimes I can give you the benefit of the doubt ;)

So you DO believe Muslims are EVIL then.

And what difference will it make if I formally declare a condemnation of the fruitcakes? They'll go on doing whatever the fuck they feel like. Unless I'm Superman my condemnation isn't going to make it stop.

:rolleyes:

No, I don't think they are evil. But while Christianity has mellowed over the ages and is no longer a religion of imperalism, Islam has undergone no such reforms over time, and people like the Deobandi and the Salafists believe that we are their dhimmi, and we had better get used to the idea, or die.

If you really believed that your words carried no weight, you wouldn't criticize certain governments (Bush, for example), because in reality, your words have no effect on Bush.

But you need to say them (I actually commend you for standing up for something - it's unusual in today's world for people to actually care about something other than their job and their shopping).

They are marching in the millions today. Want to send them a message that you think they've gone overboard? You don't seem to have any trouble saying that about Bush.

Nope, I don't think it's PS'd.

yeah but you don't know.

BTW, you know who else are nazis? feminists.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/jacob1231/fem.jpg

not my best work, but i did it in about a minute.

No, I don't think they are evil. But while Christianity has mellowed over the ages and is no longer a religion of imperalism, Islam has undergone no such reforms over time, and people like the Deobandi and the Salafists believe that we are their dhimmi, and we had better get used to the idea, or die.

And are the Deobandi and the Salafists the majority of Muslims? That kind of logic is the same as saying Christians are a problem because Evangelicals in the United States want to make the country into a full fledged theocracy.

If you really believed that your words carried no weight, you wouldn't criticize certain governments (Bush, for example), because in reality, your words have no effect on Bush.

And it won't still. However, I feel the need to express my displeasure on how Bush is handling the nation- no different than how he handled the three bankrupted companies Daddy gave him to run. Conversely if you believe your words don't matter why do you constantly decry how Islam is a threat to the world?

But you need to say them (I actually commend you for standing up for something - it's unusual in today's world for people to actually care about something other than their job and their shopping).

They are marching in the millions today. Want to send them a message that you think they've gone overboard? You don't seem to have any trouble saying that about Bush.

Messages only work if the intended recepients bother to listen in the first place. My gripes about BushCo are directed at other NationState members for discussion, not the Bush Administration. The same can be said for condemning extremist behaviors.

So you are a violent criminal, who likes to gang up on minority groups. Why don't you go to Iraq, where you can fight muslim gangs for a living? Not safe enough?


and get paid $500 a day from Blackwater to do it.


Tax free(well i know its tax free for US citizens)


Maybe I've looked into it once or twice.

And are the Deobandi and the Salafists the majority of Muslims? That kind of logic is the same as saying Christians are a problem because Evangelicals in the United States want to make the country into a full fledged theocracy.

I'm not saying a majority of Muslims. I'm saying millions.


And it won't still. However, I feel the need to express my displeasure on how Bush is handling the nation- no different than how he handled the three bankrupted companies Daddy gave him to run. Conversely if you believe your words don't matter why do you constantly decry how Islam is a threat to the world?

Because it needs saying. Bush isn't going to come to your house and take you to the local soccer stadium and shoot you in the head for not believing in God.


Messages only work if the intended recepients bother to listen in the first place. My gripes about BushCo are directed at other NationState members for discussion, not the Bush Administration. The same can be said for condemning extremist behaviors.
And there are Muslims on this forum as well.

and get paid $500 a day from Blackwater to do it.


Tax free(well i know its tax free for US citizens)


Maybe I've looked into it once or twice.
The job isn't for everyone. You have to have prior experience.

The job isn't for everyone. You have to have prior experience.


I know. They are looking for various Prior Services including but not limited to Military Police(hmmm I've been an MP for 3 years now) :-D


But I'm still not sure I"m going to do it. Probably won't, but I've looked at it.

And are the Deobandi and the Salafists the majority of Muslims?

They are, in some parts of the muslim world (the problematic parts, I might add). Deobandis are the majority sect (though not the absolute majority) in the subcontinent. Salafis are on the rise.

This might help. Credit to Womble.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9340667&postcount=26
Hanbali-one of the four schools (Maddhabs) of religious law within Sunni Islam. It is considered to be the most conservative of the four schools. The school was started by the students of Imam Hanbal or Ahmad bin Hanbal. Hanbali is predominant among Muslims in the Arabian Peninsula, although students of Islam throughout the world study and may choose to observe its conclusions about Islamic practise. Hanbali is followed by less than 5% of the world's Muslim population. The Hanbali school was greatly supported by Muhammad ibn abd al-Wahhab who used this system of law. It is thus the school of jurisprudence used in modern day Saudi Arabia.

Hanafi- Hanafi is one of the four schools of religious law within Sunni Islam. Founded by Imam Abu Hanifa, it is considered to be the school most open to modern ideas. For example, under Hanafi jurisprudence, blasphemy is not punishable by the state, despite being considered a civil crime by some other schools.

Salafi- from the Arabic world Salaf سلف (meaning predecessors or early generations), is a practitioner of Salafiyyah (Salafism). The Salafis view the first three generations of Muslims, who are the prophet Muhammad's Companions, and the two generation after them as perfect examples of how Islam should be lived and practiced. These three generations are often referred to as the Pious generations.
In modern Islam, the term Salafi has come to describe various sects and groups sharing their views. These include the Saudi-based Wahhabis, and the India based Deobandi school, and the related schools in South Africa. More often, it is the Saudi-based school of thought that are referred to as Salafis, as they seek to 'purify' modern Islam, sideline classical and much of medieval Islamic jurisprudence, and promote the interpretations of Salafi Islamic thinkers such as Ibn Taymiya. These modern Salafis are sometimes called "neo-Salafis" (often disparagingly) or Salafists in order to distinguish Salafism from the early generations of Muslims (the original salaf).

Wahhabi: reform movement in Islam, originating in Arabia. It was founded by Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahab (c.1703–1791), who taught that all accretions to Islam after the 3d cent. of the Muslim era—i.e., after c.950—were spurious and must be expunged. This view, involving essentially a purification of the Sunni sect, regarded the veneration of saints, ostentation in worship, and luxurious living as the chief evils. Accordingly, Wahhabi mosques are simple and without minarets, and the adherents dress plainly and do not smoke tobacco or hashish. Wahhabism is the major sect of the government and society of Saudi Arabia. It is claimed to be followed by Osama bin Laden, who was raised in Saudi Arabia.

Deobandi- The Deobandi are Muslims of South Asia and Afghanistan who follow the Hanafi tradition of jurisprudence (see Hanafi). The name comes from Deoband, India, where the madrassa Darul Uloom Deoband is sited. They consider the Shia sect to be an apostate group. Although the Deobandis follow the school of Abu Hanifa and are Maturidi in creed, they have reformist tendencies similar to that of the wahhabis, and similarities in bith beliefs and methods between the two groups are many.

Maturidi- followers of the theological teachings of Abu Mansur Al Maturidi, which form one of the three main theological branches of the Sunni Islam (Maturidi, Ashari and Athari). The Maturidis state that belief (iman) does not increase nor decrease but remains static; it is piety (taqwa) which increases and decreases. They also believe that the unaided human mind is fundamentally good and is able to find out that some of the more major sins (such as alcohol or murder) are evil without the help of revelation. However, they also maintain that the existence of God is so obvious, that one who has intellect and time to think (not the mentally retarded etc.) and was unreached by the message of Islam and does not believe in God will end up in the hellfire. This theology is popular wherever the Hanafi school of law is followed.

Barelvi-originally, the term for the residents of Bareilly a small city in the North Indian state of Uttar Pradesh. In modern usage, it refers to the followers of Imam Ahmad Rida Khan Barelwi, an important Muslim scholar of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. More commonly, Barelwi is used as a mainly pejorative term by South Asian Wahhabis to refer to non-Wahhabi Sunni Muslims. In practices, the Barelvi are close to the Deobandi. However, unlike the Deobandi and most Islamic groups, the Barelvi tend to deify the Prophet Mohammad as a superhuman figure whose presence is all around us at all times; he is "hazir", present; he is not "bashar", material or flesh, but "nur", light. They regard Mohammad as a semi-divine figure with unique foreknowledge

I'm not saying a majority of Muslims. I'm saying millions. If the majority were like that, the world would be in truly serious trouble. Even if they are a tiny fraction, the extremists are too numerous to dismiss as a problem. However, painting the religion as a whole with the same brush is not a solution.


Because it needs saying. Bush isn't going to come to your house and take you to the local soccer stadium and shoot you in the head for not believing in God.

Which brings up this passage. It implies that Muslims all across the world are a Taliban Hivemind, which does a great disservice to the ones who are living and coexisting peacefully with their neighbors and are thus not on the media radar.

And there are Muslims on this forum as well.

And they haven't been the frothing at the mouth fruitcakes that the Western World believes to be "Real Muslims." Which means they'll be ignored or dismissed as apologists by the people who should be paying attention to them.

No, I don't think they are evil. But while Christianity has mellowed over the ages and is no longer a religion of imperalism, Islam has undergone no such reforms over time, and people like the Deobandi and the Salafists believe that we are their dhimmi, and we had better get used to the idea, or die.
Christianity has mellowed?
I think that's something you need to take up with:
The Ugandan Lords Resistance Army, which has been fighting to impliment a Christian Theocracy for 14 years, and abducts rapes, murders and enslaves 2000 children a year.

Or perhaps the Mass murder of Muslims committed by Christians in Kosovo?

The Christian right in America (including some who are actually in government) calling for Global war?

The active part German Christians took in Hitlers final solution and the links between the Vatican and the Nazis, especially the efforts to help them escape after the war.

Pat Robertson.

Northern Ireland.

To name but a few.

Christianity has mellowed?
I think that's something you need to take up with:
The Ugandan Lords Resistance Army, which has been fighting to impliment a Christian Theocracy for 14 years, and abducts rapes, murders and enslaves 2000 children a year.

Or perhaps the Mass murder of Muslims committed by Christians in Kosovo?

The Christian right in America (including some who are actually in government) calling for Global war?

The active part German Christians took in Hitlers final solution and the links between the Vatican and the Nazis, especially the efforts to help them escape after the war.

Pat Robertson.

Northern Ireland.

To name but a few.

Compared to Islam, yes, it's mellowed.

Or do you think the Reformation and the Enlightenment had zero effect on the West?

Does the Pope really command the respect of Western governments, in that he can order them to invade the Middle East?

There has been no comparable Reformation or Enlightenment in any Muslim country.

I was under the impression that most western countries were secular, not Christian, I was also under the impression that the Elightenment didn't have all that much to do with Christianity.

Also the Reformation actually reduced Christian influence on day to day life, so maybe it just stopped that off shoot of the War God Cult from having such a great impact on society? Don't be fooled into thinking Christianity has mellowed, it's merely lost influence, in the west.

There's also plenty of Christian countries that are every bit as 'bad' as the Islamic counterparts of which you speak.

I also feel quite safe in the statement that there is more blood on Christian hands during this century alone...

Does the Pope really command the respect of Western governments, in that he can order them to invade the Middle East?
Nope but the Christian Fundementalists within American government do have influence...

EDIT:
Though the Reformation and Enlightenment didn't seem to help in Ireland or Kosovo all that much...

Except those Yellow Aryans, most of whom were Buddhist.

Japanese were a mix of Shinto and Buddhism. In anycase they were conditioned to blindly follow the orders of the emperor (who, IIRC, was even considered semi-divine).

yeah but you don't know.

BTW, you know who else are nazis? feminists.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/jacob1231/fem.jpg

not my best work, but i did it in about a minute.

Here you go. I fixed her shirt and used the origional text (that supposedly can't be selected). This took about 3 minutes including extracting the origional text and fixing the shirt.
http://photobucket.com/albums/e335/Liverbreath/?action=view&current=photoforge.jpg

angle on your letters is bad, you can tell it doesn't belong on that sign.


The one in the OP is much much better if it IS a forgery.

I've only rode along a few times. And we don't just beat up random people, we fight muslims gangs.His favorite hobby...

When did I fucking say I attack random people? I fucking attack gang members, ok? When are you gonna get that through your thick skulls?Fighting back random people and fighting back gang members are the same thing buddy. Therefore, you're a criminal.

Actually, we don't keep any ammunition around. They're just for show. I'm pretty sure we could get some, though.

Listen, I exaggerate a bit. Yes, the gang I associate with HAS MGs. No, we don't use them. Yes, we fight muslims gangs. No, we don't attack random people, we wait for them to attack us. No, I haven't participated in any attacks, just seen some.I though you beat up some muslim gang who "raped your sister".

I still believe that islam is inherently violent.Racist...

Racist...
A religion is not a race. You could say he is a bigot, but racist is inappropriate in this context.

Actually, I'm half-Ukrainian, on my father's side. My father and his mother both maintain that Hitler had the right idea. Not about the Holocaust and persecusion, but most of the things.Now that explains about you.

A religion is not a race. You could say he is a bigot, but racist is inappropriate in this context.I know.:headbang: But from now on I'll call him bigot.:p

Now that explains about you.

Which is funny, considering how according to the NS Islamaciders Hitler got along well with Muslims.

A religion is not a race. You could say he is a bigot, but racist is inappropriate in this context.
He's the type though that wants brown people (mainly Lebanese in this part of the world) bashed because he thinks Islam is violent.

He doesn't really care about the religion, he cares about foreigners he's scared of.

He is a racist, even though that statement in isolation might not be.

I though you beat up some muslim gang who "raped your sister".

An exception.

He's the type though that wants brown people (mainly Lebanese in this part of the world) bashed because he thinks Islam is violent.

He doesn't really care about the religion, he cares about foreigners he's scared of.

He is a racist, even though that statement in isolation might not be.
I will make something clear though; those who practise extreme versions of Islam solicit very little sympathy from me, regardless of race. Even so, that hardly means the religion as a whole is violent. I will admit the fact some believe Dhimmitude should be extended beyond the Middle East is highly upsetting, yet luckily they are still in the minority.

He doesn't really care about the religion, he cares about foreigners he's scared of.

I like most people. Asians, for example. My friends are mostly asian.

I will make something clear though; those who practise extreme versions of Islam solicit very little sympathy from me, regardless of race. Even so, that hardly means the religion as a whole is violent. I will admit the fact some believe Dhimmitude should be extended beyond the Middle East is highly upsetting, yet luckily they are still in the minority.

Although I wouldn't call it a tiny minority. Somewhere between a medium majority and a large majority.

I like most people. Asians, for example. My friends are mostly asian.
I generally find Asians, especially Japanese, to be awesome. Very easy to get along with.

I generally find Asians, especially Japanese, to be awesome. Very easy to get along with.

They tend to hold caucasians in awe or at least caution. Other asians? Let's just say World War 2 was the pinnacle of how bad things could get.

They tend to hold caucasians in awe or at least caution. Other asians? Let's just say World War 2 was the pinnacle of how bad things could get.
Yes, Japanese do tend to be a bit apprehensive at first. They are the only Asians I really have much contact with though, except maybe for the odd Chinese person now and then. Indeed some of them do still exhibit racism, but nothing near to what stereotypes would have you think.

Although I wouldn't call it a tiny minority. Somewhere between a medium majority and a large majority.
It's not a particularly large minority, to my knowledge, yet if it does grow and actually becomes a threat, then I will see a reason for concern. Presently such does not exist.

angle on your letters is bad, you can tell it doesn't belong on that sign.


The one in the OP is much much better if it IS a forgery.

It would have taken longer to correct the background and align the text. 3 min was all it was worth.

This is from a Deobandi cleric from Uttar Pradesh, a Deobandi sronghold.

http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/20up.htm
UP Shariat court issues death decree for Danish cartoonist

February 20, 2006 18:06 IST
Last Updated: February 20, 2006 18:26 IST

Close on the heels of a Uttar Pradesh minister announcing a cash reward of Rs 51 crore (Rs 510 million) to the person beheading the Danish cartoonist who caricatured Prophet Mohammad in a Danish newspaper, a Shariat court in the state has issued a religious decree sentencing the cartoonist to death.

The decree was issued on behalf of the Idar-e-Sharia Darul Kaza and Ifta Firangimahal Taksal (Islamic courts) by their qazi (priest) on Sunday.

The qazi said it has been clearly stated in the Quran that whosoever hurt the Prophet deserved to be sternly punished.

Asked whether the fatwa has any significance in India, where Islamic laws do not apply, he said, "It is applicable wherever Muslims live".

He claimed he was authorised to issue the fatwa in his capacity as the qazi of the city and he had been doing so for many years.

Muslim clerics on the other hand said though the fatwa was legitimate according to Islamic law, it had little significance in India.

All India United Muslim Morcha Vice-President M A Siddique said Islamic courts were authorised to issue fatwas but it did not apply to a country where Islamic law was not in force.

All India Muslim Personal Law Board spokesman S Q R Iliyasi said the fatwa had no significance in India.

UP Minister for Haj Mohammad Yaqoob Qureshi last week announced a cash reward for whoever beheaded the cartoonist.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20060215Pakistan03.jpg

Shouldn't it be ALLAH bless Hilter, if they're Muslims?

Shouldn't it be ALLAH bless Hilter, if they're Muslims?

allah isn't the name of their god, it's their word for god. Translated, it means "god."

allah isn't the name of their god, it's their word for god. Translated, it means "god."

Even so, why not have "Allah" on the sign instead of "God"?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20060215Pakistan03.jpg

Don't forget that the Grand Mufti was Hitler's best friend in the Middle East.

I guess being a Muslim means never having to say you're sorry for GENOCIDE!:headbang:

Even so, why not have "Allah" on the sign instead of "God"?

The same reason they wrote the rest of the sign in English...

Even so, why not have "Allah" on the sign instead of "God"?

Methinks, it's a jab at "God bless America".

Oh noes the Muslim Hivemind are Neo-Nazis! Let's gather every man woman and child who proclaims faith in Allah and ship them to Nuremburg for new war crimes trials!

Not to mention the fruitcake extremists in the picture (assuming it's not been doctored) don't seem to grasp how Hitler wouldn't have thought much of them in turn.

But hey, if it helps boost the cause of Muslim Extermination right?

:rolleyes:
Well, let's see, there is the one palestinian running around calling himself hitler.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47615
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/22/news/pals.php?rss

allah isn't the name of their god, it's their word for god. Translated, it means "god."

Wrong. "Ilah" is Arabic for "God" ... Allah is the name of God.

Just where were Arabs on Hitlers list?
Did he want to kill them or just enslave them?
Neither. They got along quite well together. There were Muslim SS units, the Mufti of Jerusalem was a big ally of Hitler. The Muslims also gave Hitler a Muslim nickname. Abu Ali.

Hitler had to come up with a contrived explanation of the Japanese as "Yellow Aryans" to keep the more fanatical of his followers happy with the alliance.

Of course this means it would be hilarious to see Japanese youth try to join skinhead and neo-Nazi groups. After all, Der Fuhrer called them Yellow Aryans and what White Aryan in their right mind would go against Der Fuhrer's words eh?

:D
http://i1.tinypic.com/o8s4ye.jpg

Yeah, dit. Who hasn't pretended to be the police before to reinforce a point?
Me.

Even so, why not have "Allah" on the sign instead of "God"?
From what I recall from reading about the Amerithrax case (the one where anthrax was mailed from a central post office in Hamilton twp. NJ) the use of the word Allah instead of just God on the letters was considered evidence that Muslims didn't do it. It was believed that a Muslim would simply translate Allah to God when writing in English.


EDIT:I just looked it up and I remembered wrong. The above post is incorrect. The use of Allah is consistent with a Muslim writer.

Shouldn't it be ALLAH bless Hilter, if (the sign was real)Allah isn't the name of their god, it's their word for god. Translated, it means "god."Maybe.. but..

Even when Arabs choose to translate to english.. They do not translate the Word "Allah"

They will write in English like this "Allah is the Greatest".. They would not write "God is the Greatest".. even if in fact they are talking about the same Allah(God).

Sometimes when I translate to spanish or French I leave some words in English. (my free speech)