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Muslims need to shape up, or they could be shipped out... - Page 2

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Eutrusca
18-02-2006, 18:20
Please bear reality in mind before posting.
OMG! What a radical concept! :eek:
Eutrusca
18-02-2006, 18:21
What I mean to say is that, when Europe starts blaming all their problems on a single group of people identified only by their religion, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I know, from history, that only good things can come from this sort of action!

I mean let's face it, Europe's culture isn't looking for a fight!

They just want lebensraum!
Can you say "variant on Godwin's Law," boys and girls? :D
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 18:21
What I mean to say is that, when Europe starts blaming all their problems on a single group of people identified only by their religion, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I know, from history, that only good things can come from this sort of action!

I mean let's face it, Europe's culture isn't looking for a fight!

They just want lebensraum!

You can't blame them, all they want is a solution...
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 18:22
OMG! What a radical concept! :eek:

Yeah, I doubt it'll catch on.:(
Eutrusca
18-02-2006, 18:23
Yeah, I doubt it'll catch on.:(
Perhaps you could lead by example. :D
The Similized world
18-02-2006, 18:23
What I mean to say is that, when Europe starts blaming all their problems on a single group of people identified only by their religion, it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I know, from history, that only good things can come from this sort of action!

I mean let's face it, Europe's culture isn't looking for a fight!

They just want lebensraum!As I wrote to a Muslim I know, who were condoning the embassy burnings: "Thank you for trying to ruin the last 60 years of work towards a more tolerant Europe. Pat yourself on the back from me, with a knife - oh wait, you already did."
Dancing Tree Dwellers
18-02-2006, 18:24
And your proof of this?

Increase in profits for apres-war engineering, oil-reaping, greedy yankee businesses. No figures though I'm afraid, but I'm sure you aint disputing the economy promoting prospects left following the US invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 18:24
Perhaps you could lead by example. :D

How do you expect me to win debates if I have to bring reality into the equation?:eek:
Saint Oz
18-02-2006, 18:30
And your proof of this?
Holy Hell don't you see all the oil companies getting Richer? They get their dirty hands on the oil and now they're running around America with it! Many of the American Weapon companies, American Car Companies, and American Natural Resource Companies are having a blast!
Laerod
18-02-2006, 18:32
Can you say "variant on Godwin's Law," boys and girls? :DWhy? If the author of the article is associated with Stormfront, it's a valid comparison.
Dancing Tree Dwellers
18-02-2006, 18:36
Holy Hell don't you see all the oil companies getting Richer? They get their dirty hands on the oil and now they're running around America with it! Many of the American Weapon companies, American Car Companies, and American Natural Resource Companies are having a blast!

It is the sole reason for attacking these defenceless folk. These companies and Georgey boy must've been rubbing their dirty hands together with financial glee at the site of those 2 towers falling down.
Dontgonearthere
18-02-2006, 18:42
Pardon me questioning the European Übermenschen, but isnt Europe supposedly the beacon of freedom and so forth? Isnt it good for these Muslims to be expressing their cultural beleifs in such a way?
I guess its fine when theyre protesting in/against the US, but when theyre in YOUR streets they get deported.
Tsk tsk.
Although, perhaps, Europe is finally waking up to the fact that while the majority of Muslims are fairly normal people (after all, who IS perfectly normal?), those extremists running countries in the Middle East hate them just as much as they hate the US, cartoons just provide an excuse.

Im looking forward to the history textbooks twenty years from now that list a cartoon as one of the causes of the next crusade :P
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 18:45
Pardon me questioning the European Übermenschen, but isnt Europe supposedly the beacon of freedom and so forth? Isnt it good for these Muslims to be expressing their cultural beleifs in such a way?
I guess its fine when theyre protesting in/against the US, but when theyre in YOUR streets they get deported.
Tsk tsk.
Although, perhaps, Europe is finally waking up to the fact that while the majority of Muslims are fairly normal people (after all, who IS perfectly normal?), those extremists running countries in the Middle East hate them just as much as they hate the US, cartoons just provide an excuse.

Im looking forward to the history textbooks twenty years from now that list a cartoon as one of the causes of the next crusade :P

I'm sorry but what part of 'This story is a fake' do you not understand?
Tactical Grace
18-02-2006, 18:48
I'm sorry but what part of 'This story is a fake' do you not understand?
Yep, I think it is on the third page of this thread that I explain that it was written by a Canadian fascist and never published in the newspaper claimed.
Laerod
18-02-2006, 18:52
Yep, I think it is on the third page of this thread that I explain that it was written by a Canadian fascist and never published in the newspaper claimed.We need to find Gauthier and have him edit his post immediately after the article. Maybe that way we can get the message across...
Eutrusca
18-02-2006, 18:53
How do you expect me to win debates if I have to bring reality into the equation?:eek:
Ah ain't touchin' dat wid a ten foot pole! Nuh uh! :p
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 18:55
Yep, I think it is on the third page of this thread that I explain that it was written by a Canadian fascist and never published in the newspaper claimed.

It's like the 'Norway Outlaws Blasphemy' thread all over again.:rolleyes:
Daft Viagria
18-02-2006, 19:01
Because you don't have the guts.

Or maybe you're just not old enough yet. :p
Had you considered that a brain might be involved?
What he/she said has nothing to do with " we'll go in blasting and to hell with our allies" It requires a brain.
We can teach a monkey to kill, should be no problem to teach the likes of you. Might even get around to getting you to mate well :D
Santa Barbara
18-02-2006, 21:05
Can you say "variant on Godwin's Law," boys and girls? :D

I hear that Godwin had a Hitler Mustache.

Self-fulfilling prophecy? :p
Drunk commies deleted
18-02-2006, 21:07
Bet she's East European. :p
At least half of the dancers at my favorite titty bar are.
The Similized world
18-02-2006, 21:08
At least half of the dancers at my favorite titty bar are.What's the appeal of those places, if you don't mind me asking?
PsychoticDan
18-02-2006, 21:21
What's the appeal of those places, if you don't mind me asking?
Titties. :cool:
Titties are whats appealing about titty bars. :cool:

Might as well ask what's appealing about a chocolate bar. ;)

(hint: It's the chocolate)
Randomlittleisland
18-02-2006, 21:26
Titties. :cool:
Titties are whats appealing about titty bars. :cool:

Might as well ask what's appealing about a chocolate bar. ;)

(hint: It's the chocolate)

LMAO!!! :p
Skinny87
18-02-2006, 21:36
For the benefit of all who can't be bothered reading the thread:

THE ARTICLE IS FAKE, BIASED ANYWAY AND THE AUTHOR IS LINKED WITH STORMFRONT
The Similized world
18-02-2006, 21:39
Titties. :cool:
Titties are whats appealing about titty bars. :cool:

Might as well ask what's appealing about a chocolate bar. ;)

(hint: It's the chocolate)You're right. I might as well have done that. I don't like it & don't eat it ;)

Anyway, I just asked because.. Well, I'd personally find it a bit humiliating to get payed for doing the 'copter in a bar. It might just be me, but I can't shake the feeling it's the same for everyone else - it puts a bit of a dampener on the experience for me.

Generally I avoid the places altogether. Besides, they're usually fucking expensive.
Santa Barbara
18-02-2006, 21:40
For the benefit of all who can't be bothered reading the thread:

THE ARTICLE IS FAKE, BIASED ANYWAY AND THE AUTHOR IS LINKED WITH STORMFRONT

True, but we can still talk about titties. Can't we?
Celtlund
18-02-2006, 21:44
True, but we can still talk about titties. Can't we?

Do you like big ones or little ones? I think IBTs (itty bitty titties) are nice. I don't care much for the huge ones.
Santa Barbara
18-02-2006, 21:58
Do you like big ones or little ones? I think IBTs (itty bitty titties) are nice. I don't care much for the huge ones.

I like 'em all sizes. IBTs are just fine, as are the average and large ones. But I do tend to put a cap on a bra size of about D or above. Once they start being big enough to potentially asphyxiate me to death, thats where I draw the line!
Celtlund
18-02-2006, 22:02
I like 'em all sizes. IBTs are just fine, as are the average and large ones. But I do tend to put a cap on a bra size of about D or above. Once they start being big enough to potentially asphyxiate me to death, thats where I draw the line!

My ex-brother-in-law used to say, "All you need is a handfull and a mouthfull. Everyting else is waste." :eek:
Santa Barbara
18-02-2006, 22:17
For the benefit of all who can't be bothered reading the thread:

THE ARTICLE IS FAKE, BIASED ANYWAY AND THE AUTHOR IS LINKED WITH STORMFRONT

Also, I've read most of the thread and can't find anything to back that up.

The article appears at www.canada.com and I can't find any cross-referencing it with Stormfront (though I'm sure they'd love it).

And I couldn't find that Lawrence Solomon is in any way linked with Stormfront. Although on their message board archives someone mentions him as a Jew (http://www.stormfront.org/archive/t-97176.html).

I couldn't find anything specific on the new "Contract of Welcome and Integration" regarding the 'reforms' which would either outlaw "insular Muslim communities" or give the French government justification in "kicking out immigrants after 10 years."

I did find the Contract of Welcome and Integration online, here (http://www.social.gouv.fr/htm/pointsur/accueil/cai_depliant_v.pdf) (PDF). But it doesn't mention those 'reforms.'

I did find that some French government member proposed a draft of these.

Foreigners living in France 10 years without the right papers will no longer be given a residence permit automatically.

The draft law will also require that those granted a 10-year resident permit have to prove they are learning French and respecting the country's laws, such as those defending equality between men and women. "If a wife is kept hostage at home without learning French, the whole family will be asked to leave (the country)," Sarkozy said.

(Source (http://www.workpermit.com/news/2006_02_06/europe/france_considers_immigration_overhaul.htm))

But so far, it does seem as if the article is biased in a way that makes it seem like all Europe is on the verge of kicking out anyone who is Muslim. It doesn't seem like that's the case even if that law is/gets passed. Holding a wife "hostage" is obviously criminal, and there's nothing inherently "deporting all the Muslims" about kicking out people who've been illegal immigrants for 10 years.

So the article does seem to have some legitimacy, but is exagerrated to make it seem like Europe is about to go on a crusade against them Muslims. (Again.)

But whats important to discuss is that, 'real' article or laws or not, these views ARE held by people - look on this forum or any other, there are people who WOULD support wholesale deportation (or worse) of all Muslims from Europe. I don't think it should be brushed off, but at the same time I don't see Mr. Solomon as an objective and honest writer nor do I think cries about France or European upcoming race-based fascism are yet warranted.
New Genoa
18-02-2006, 22:23
Regardless of the article's veracity, it certainly has brought out alot of open racism.