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Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

What am I going to do with me?
Well, firstly, you will not kill yourself.

Secondly, you will go and speak to your parents, more friends, teachers, counsellors and so on and so forth. Then you will sort out what you're unhappy about and go on with your life.

If I were to give you my real advice, I would be kicked out of the forum. :rolleyes:

no one desevers to die....iam happy that you did not kill your self.
you should takes you self out with some friends and watch a funnie move and eat lots of ice cream......:)
i hope that you start feeling better soon:) :fluffle:

Don't kill yourself, no matter what happens. If you were to die, I would be very sad :(

Allow me.


1. I have no qualms in calling you stupid.

2. Is there any paticular reason you can pin down for you deserving to die?

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.

Geeze ... I can tolerate being a loser ... I wouldn't want to go through life as a failure.

Killing yourself is overrated anyway. Nobody gives a shit 2 minutes after you're dead. However, if you do it, webcast it and make it loud and messy. That would be awesome. Give me the copyright in your will.

Don't kill yourself, make others miserable.

Don't kill yourself, make others miserable.

The former causes the latter in most cases.

Allow me. 1. I have no qualms in calling you stupid. 2. Is there any paticular reason you can pin down for you deserving to die?

Hey Dinaverg! :)
1. Me, neither.
2. Attention?

Hey Dinaverg! :)
1. Me, neither.
2. Attention?
Attention? :rolleyes: If a person seriously considers taking their lives, that is the LAST thing on their minds.

Attention? :rolleyes: If a person seriously considers taking their lives, that is the LAST thing on their minds.
Thank you.

If your going to kill yourself, take some people with you.

There is very little point in killing yourself. You, and everyone you know, will be dead in about a century (less than a blink of an eye, timewise) anyway, why hurry an event that is already rushing towards you at blazing speed?

Aye, If you're going to kill yourself, go for a Darwin Award at least.

And I was thinking more why he "deserved" it, as opposed to what he'd do it for.

There is very little point in killing yourself. You, and everyone you know, will be dead in about a century (less than a blink of an eye, timewise) anyway, why hurry an event that is already rushing towards you at blazing speed?

Just... never eat the pickles... Everyone that ate pickles in 1857 is DEAD. You can't argue with that kind of statistic.

Attention? :rolleyes: If a person seriously considers taking their lives, that is the LAST thing on their minds.


Actually, it's usually the first, if they actually think about it. They very seriously want help, and nothing screams louder than "If you don't help me, I'll blow my head off."

Actually, it's usually the first, if they actually think about it. They very seriously want help, and nothing screams louder than "If you don't help me, I'll blow my head off."
Not if you don't vocalise your thoughts about it.

Did you fail because you decided to or because someone stopped you? If the former, get into a relationship with a sadist or something, stop being emo all over the carpet. If the latter, too bad, either learn some sort of dramatic lesson from it or try again later.

Ok, that's my derisive advice. Now the real advice: why do you want to die? What do you value, and when will you next get it? Couldn't you at least live until then?

How do you fail to kill yourself? You aren't struggling to evade a murderer or something. If you "try" to kill yourself and fail you are just trying to get attention. Remember "Across the street for attention. Down the road if you mean it."

How do you fail to kill yourself? You aren't struggling to evade a murderer or something. If you "try" to kill yourself and fail you are just trying to get attention. Remember "Across the street for attention. Down the road if you mean it."

Actually I read it'd be very difficult to go straight down the vein, and multiple times across the street would be easier

Well, I can certainly see the crying happening, by the person you seem to be. But, there must certainly be someone you can talk to this about. :mp5: Or if it makes you feel any better, you can kill someone else, that way you still get your motive out, but you don't have to take the pain, make someone else. That's how I get through with life...:D

What am I going to do with me?

Not kill yourself.

There is very little point in killing yourself. You, and everyone you know, will be dead in about a century (less than a blink of an eye, timewise) anyway, why hurry an event that is already rushing towards you at blazing speed?

By the same logic, there is little point in continuing to live. Everyone will be dead in a century, right? Why force yourself to suffer through a life that isn't enjoyable when you can end it now? Unless you place some sort of value on life and/or the things that are a part of it, there isn't much of a reason not to.

By the same logic, there is little point in continuing to live. Everyone will be dead in a century, right? Why force yourself to suffer through a life that isn't enjoyable when you can end it now?
No, because killing yourself is active, which means that it requires a justification. Not killing yourself, requires no justification as it is your default condition.

By the same logic, there is little point in continuing to live. Everyone will be dead in a century, right? Why force yourself to suffer through a life that isn't enjoyable when you can end it now? Unless you place some sort of value on life and/or the things that are a part of it, there isn't much of a reason not to.

Well, when you have a pretty good gaurauntee the rest of your life will suck, perhaps, but I'm guessing this guy is like a teenager, bout 80 more years to go, I doubt he's in a situation where he knows it's all gonna be sucky.

Attention? :rolleyes: If a person seriously considers taking their lives, that is the LAST thing on their minds.

The OP seems dramatic. Perhaps she's serious.

The OP seems dramatic. Perhaps she's serious.
Maybe something inside her stopped her, and she is seeking out help now. Saying she used it as a vehicle to get attention is a bit naive though in my opinion.

The OP seems dramatic. Perhaps she's serious.

Eh, it's mostly the whole "A world of nothingness and silence" thing that makes me think, "Teenager who listens to too much Green Day got dumped"


P.S. Correction, it's: "in the place where there is nothing and silence reigns over all..." Same thing basically.

Maybe something inside her stopped her, and she is seeking out help now. Saying she used it as a vehicle to get attention is a bit naive though in my opinion.

Ah, so maybe a bit of reason left. Regardless, we can't do much till she comes back and imparts some details, assuming she hasn't figured out multiple cuts work better.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed. I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die. Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public. What am I going to do with me?
Suicide is never an answer. Find that which you love doing, then do that with all your might. Helping others is particularly uplifting; it's often more for you than for them.

Let me know if you need to talk. I care.

This really isn't something to joke about. And you should never call a suicidal person stupid. They may come to that conclusion themselves one day, but ridicule from others won't help things at all.

Silence and Nothing, if you want to talk, TG me. I've been there.

Maybe something inside her stopped her, and she is seeking out help now. Saying she used it as a vehicle to get attention is a bit naive though in my opinion.

Naivete is something gained through lack of experience with the matter. I have plenty of experience with the matter. And I hear drama.

Ah, so maybe a bit of reason left. Regardless, we can't do much till she comes back and imparts some details, assuming she hasn't figured out multiple cuts work better.
Alas, that is all that can be done. I am just tired of people here thinking that someone who attempts to commit suicide is always doing it for the attention.

Naivete is something gained through lack of experience with the matter. I have plenty of experience with the matter. And I hear drama.
Potentially. Equally though, it may not be drama. Don't be too quick to judge.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?
it really sucks when you get to the point that you want to kill yourself. I have been there, it's not pretty, and I have been at the point where I failed suicide I remember thinking "god I can't even kill myself right" it sucked.

If you are really thinking about killing yourself you need to go to the hospital, call 911 and tell them, I promise you it will be okay if you can just hang on long enough to get help. Life doesn't have to be like this for you, there is a way for things to be okay again, but you have to be the one to take the first step. I will pray for you to have the strength to do so.

Monday a kid from my school shot himself in the face.

His mother found him dead in his room.

He was the football captain and in the Improv team.

He was the life of every party and the person who would talk to anyone anytime about anything.

No one knew it was coming.

He lost his father two years ago.

He left behind his grieving mother and two younger brothers who looked up to him very, very much.

Before you consider suicide consider the effects it will have on everyone around you. Half of my classmates still can't come to school and the ones who do come are in shock.

His funeral is tomorrow.

Alas, that is all that can be done. I am just tired of people here thinking that someone who attempts to commit suicide is always doing it for the attention.

Oh, okay. It's not for the attention. It's a cry for help from a political forum.

Oh, okay. It's not for the attention. It's a cry for help from a political forum.
She seems to be reaching out for help rather than just attention-mongering.

Potentially. Equally though, it may not be drama. Don't be too quick to judge.

Okay.

She seems to be reaching out for help rather than just attention-mongering.

I think if she actually wanted help she would've replied to some of the posts on this thread. That or after seeing the first few she immediately went out to try again.

She seems to be reaching out for help rather than just attention-mongering.

What 'help' is there to offer someone? If she's that far gone, she needs a little more than nameless faceless bullsh-t.

Alas, that is all that can be done. I am just tired of people here thinking that someone who attempts to commit suicide is always doing it for the attention.

Well, reasons to tell someone about your suicide, ala Myspacide.

1. you want them to know about it. Attention.
2. you want them to find your body, so it doesn't start to decay and stink up the place. Neat freak?
3. you realize killing yourself is stupid and want help. In which case, If they can realize that, I'm not totally worried, and I'd expect them to say more so we actually could help them. Umm....Rationality.


Maybe there's more, but these come to mind.

I think if she actually wanted help she would've replied to some of the posts on this thread. That or after seeing the first few she immediately went out to try again.
Maybe. That, or her server could've crashed... :p

She seems to be reaching out for help rather than just attention-mongering.

...The name "Silence and Nothing" screams attention-mongering emo.

Well, reasons to tell someone about your suicide, ala Myspacide.

1. you want them to know about it. Attention.
2. you want them to find your body, so it doesn't start to decay and stink up the place. Neat freak?
3. you realize killing yourself is stupid and want help. In which case, If they can realize that, I'm not totally worried, and I'd expect them to say more so we actually could help them. Umm....Rationality.


Maybe there's more, but these come to mind.
Yes. Saying its always about attention is a bit too simplistic.

Maybe. That, or her server could've crashed... :p

and then she killed herself over that?

I think if she actually wanted help she would've replied to some of the posts on this thread. That or after seeing the first few she immediately went out to try again.

Uhh.. if she really wanted help.. maybe she would go to someone who could... *HELP!!!* It's not rocket science here.

Well, reasons to tell someone about your suicide, ala Myspacide.

1. you want them to know about it. Attention.
2. you want them to find your body, so it doesn't start to decay and stink up the place. Neat freak?
3. you realize killing yourself is stupid and want help. In which case, If they can realize that, I'm not totally worried, and I'd expect them to say more so we actually could help them. Umm....Rationality.


Maybe there's more, but these come to mind.

Please, stop it. I know it can be merely attention seeking, but you shouldn't assume anything.

What 'help' is there to offer someone? If she's that far gone, she needs a little more than nameless faceless bullsh-t.
True. She may still think it's a start though.

and then she killed herself over that?
Yes. Maybe all her frustration actually comes from Jolt's useless servers. :eek:

Yes. Saying its always about attention is a bit too simplistic.

well...it is the most likely reason, considering if it was 3, she'd give us a story about why she deserves to die, and if it was 2, she'd give an adress so we could tell people to clean up the body...

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

Firstly, don't listen to most of the people who have responded to your request. What you need to do is surround yourself with more people like this friend. I don't know what age you are, but from the age of 13 to 16 I lost at least one person from my school each year to suicide, all of which could have been easily prevented by just talking about it. So far, you're doing the right thing. Don't think you're alone. Talk to a counsellor or a pyschologist, whichever one is easiest to access.

I'm hoping that the fact that we haven't heard from you yet is because you've dealt with this in the best way possible and have moved on already, and not because you've gone down the road instead of across the tracks.

True. She may still think it's a start though.

Maybe. But then, where is she?

Maybe. But then, where is she?
Putting on make up so her corpse looks pretty when they find it? :p

What am I going to do with me?
Well, certainly not kill yourself.

I'd naturally advise talking to an expert of some sort, a counselor, a trusted friend, parents, a priest, a teacher or somebody like that who you'd prefer to talk to.

Maybe. But then, where is she?

On the hopeful side of the matter, she's realized that whatever reason is not the right one to kill yourself. (Here I must state the point that I agree with killing yourself to preserve your honor, i.e. the samurais.) On the darker side... maybe she took the advice some of you were so helpfully doling out.

On the comical note though, maybe she's sending a message to someone who might care on MySpace.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?
Well, What Does Your Head Say? Surely It Says To NOT Kill Yourself. It's Your Heart That Is Tellling You To Kill Yourself. Trust Me, Never Trust Your Heart. Now Then, If It's Your HEAD Telling You To Kill Yourself, Well, Umm... DON'T! Talk To Your Friends/Family/NSer's Like You And I.

Well, What Does Your Head Say? Surely It Says To NOT Kill Yourself. It's Your Heart That Is Tellling You To Kill Yourself. Trust Me, Never Trust Your Heart. Now Then, If It's Your HEAD Telling You To Kill Yourself, Well, Umm... DON'T! Talk To Your Friends/Family/NSer's Like You And I.

:sniper:

You only capitalize names and the first letter of the first word in a sentance. Where were you in second grade? (Keep offering support, though.)

Well, What Does Your Head Say? Surely It Says To NOT Kill Yourself. It's Your Heart That Is Tellling You To Kill Yourself. Trust Me, Never Trust Your Heart. Now Then, If It's Your HEAD Telling You To Kill Yourself, Well, Umm... DON'T! Talk To Your Friends/Family/NSer's Like You And I.

Why do you type in all upper cases starting like that?

Why do you type in all upper cases starting like that?
Its his/her style?

Putting on make up so her corpse looks pretty when they find it? :p

"Leave a Beautiful Corpse"

Please tell me that's not drama all the way.

"Leave a Beautiful Corpse"

Please tell me that's not drama all the way.
It almost touches on the poetic. :p I was not defending her in particular, but rather people who commit suicide in general. If indeed all she did is seek attention, she would be one of those people who perpetuate the myth that all those who do it are attention-mongers.

... ENOUGH WITH MY TYPING STYLE! But Anyways, Seriously, Don't Kill Yourself. I've Had Serious Bouts Of Depression (And I'm Only 13...) I Thought About Killing Myself, Constantly. One Time I Almost Did, But I Stopped When I Heard My Mom Return From Work. After My Depression Ended, I Realized How Stupid I Was To Think That. Don't Kill Yourself. Unless You Want Your Family/Friends/NSer's Like You And Me To Be Increasingly Sad (Hell Man, Zooke Just Died A Few Weeks Ago, Do We Really Need Any More Deaths In The NS Family?). Even Then You'll Be A Real Asshole If You Kill Yourself.

There's no reason for a woman to commit suicide... Just become a prostitute.

There's no reason for a woman to commit suicide... Just become a prostitute.
You don't even know if it's a girl, for one. Two... just stfu.

"Leave a Beautiful Corpse"

Please tell me that's not drama all the way.
Maybe it is just her goal to be courteous? Some of us can appreciate a nice stiff, and it is such a shame when people mutilate themselves in needlessly horrible ways.

It almost touches on the poetic. :p I was not defending her in particular, but rather people who commit suicide in general. If indeed all she did is seek attention, she would be one of those people who perpetuate the myth that all those who do it are attention-mongers.
I agree with this reasoning behind the thread title.

It almost touches on the poetic. :p I was not defending her in particular, but rather people who commit suicide in general. If indeed all she did is seek attention, she would be one of those people who perpetuate the myth that all those who do it are attention-mongers.

Poetic Suicide. ;) I think suicide stinks. I applaud your stance. I don't think ALL suicides are attention-mongers, although with such a "poetic" title, it just screamed "attention" to me. Perhaps I'm incorrect and judged too swiftly. However, I think I'm correct on this one. True depression isn't poetic.. I don't think.

Poetic Suicide. ;) I think suicide stinks. I applaud your stance. I don't think ALL suicides are attention-mongers, although with such a "poetic" title, it just screamed "attention" to me. Perhaps I'm incorrect and judged too swiftly. However, I think I'm correct on this one. True depression isn't poetic.. I don't think.
It depends on the situation of the depression. Look at Edgar Allen Poe: He wrote some of his greatest works while depressed. I'm sure there are other examples you could cite if you thought about it.

It depends on the situation of the depression. Look at Edgar Allen Poe: He wrote some of his greatest works while depressed. I'm sure there are other examples you could cite if you thought about it.

Suicide is not poetic. Depression may be. Suicide, no.

Maybe something inside her stopped her, and she is seeking out help now. Saying she used it as a vehicle to get attention is a bit naive though in my opinion.

i have to agree..if whoever just wants attention here..they could just write i love america..or jews suck or any plethora of hot button issues and get 20 pages of attention.

i good friend killed himself back when we were in h.s.

he was popular as all,track and football star..great looking,girls thru themselves at him..i know..i was jealous as shit...but he seemed normal outwardly,but blew his head off with a 12 gauge,and me and his brother had the pleasure of finding what was left after school.

most unpleasant..and it haunts me to this day..not near how it does to his brother.
so there is one reason to go talk to someone..it fucks the ones you leave behind..you know..the ones that care.
precisely the ones you should be talking too right fucking now!

and if no one cares..no one is gonna give a shit if you off yourself..so find a group or call a hotline...then go find someone that does care..and then you cant off yourself cause it will hurt someone that cares for you.

oh,i have thought about it...came quite close drunk once.but fell asleep with the gun against my head...real happy i passed out drunk..got 2 great kid's and an ok life...

things get better..and things get way worse..but then get better again..so man up..deal with it,or find someone to help you deal with it.

i was looking at 10 years in jail for a crime i didn't commit...you have no idea how hard it was to walk into court for sentencing..i can't do 10 years in jail...but i forced myself into court..and walked out free..if i had done it..i would have killed my family(myself of coarse..)for nothing!



call someone..please:fluffle:

Suicide is not poetic. Depression may be. Suicide, no.
But what if I slit my wrists, and the blood spatter (by sheer chance) forms a verbal composition designed to convey experiences, ideas, or emotions in a vivid and imaginative way, characterized by the use of language chosen for its sound and suggestive power and by the use of literary techniques such as meter, metaphor, and rhyme?

Suicide is never an answer. Find that which you love doing, then do that with all your might. Helping others is particularly uplifting; it's often more for you than for them.

Let me know if you need to talk. I care.


fantastic advice...dedicate your lives to others,i mean it...you will soon find out yours is not so bad,compared to what some people live with.

What am I going to do with me?
Hahaha! You're a Suicidal Failure! Don't get much worse than that :p

Eh, sorry..

1. Raise as much money as you possibly can
2. Travel to as many & as forign destinations as you can.
3. Repeat.

You'll have to much fun to worry about being depressed & suicidal.

Eh, it's mostly the whole "A world of nothingness and silence" thing that makes me think, "Teenager who listens to too much Green Day got dumped"


P.S. Correction, it's: "in the place where there is nothing and silence reigns over all..." Same thing basically.
Green day sucks you tard.
And it's a reference to Sailor Moon. Book 10, Sailor Saturn apears, look it up.

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Everyone's been complaining about how I need to elaborate.
AND TO THE RETARDS WHO THINK I LIVE ON THE INTERNET: I logged off so that I could go out to eat with my aunt. Did the fact that I don't log on 24/7 ever cross your thick skulls?

Here's the thing. I swollowed 2 875mg capsules of amoxicilin, 4 500mg capsules of tylenol, and some...what was it? Asterin or something to that effect. I don't know how much I took of the last one, but it wasn't a lot.

The reference to "A beautiful corpse" was saying that I didn't want to leave my blood splattered on the walls. And yes it was supposed to be a touch poetic.
Get over it.
Yes I am a girl, yes I am in highschool, and this is my 3rd time attempting suicide. First time, I was caught. Second time I chickened out, I flinched and cut the edge of my hand instead of my wrists. Then my mom came home and I had to hide in the bathroom until the bleeding stopped.
Want to read my suicide note?

There's no reason for a woman to commit suicide... Just become a prostitute.

i was gonna give you a thumbs up for a great chuckle(and a wise crack of my own)..then i realised the topic...again
could most probably be some emo freak wanting attention...certainly...or it could be someone who has no one to turn too..and i'll be damned if i cant give someone 2 seconds of my time..to help them if they are truly suicidal..and if some attention monger..so what..i would be watching porn or commenting on some useless political thing i have zero affect on anyhow..at least if they need to talk to someone,i can take time from my bizzy schedule of porn watching/smarmy comments on peoples political opinions or espousing my insignaficant views...no?

if your an emo looking for attention..ok..you got it..happy?

if not...please ignore the snide remarks from all the deep political thinkers here..they are to busy sharpening there razor wits to belittle opposing views..so you cant exspect them to shift gears too compassionate humans..you know..unless compassion is reserved for people with like minded opinions..afraid you dont fit in there..but with me..yes i will always make time for you..whether or not you are an attention mongering emo..i don't care...your a person..and if your even thinking that nonsense(suicide)..you need to talk to someone..

emo too..lol;)

And stop calling me emo!
I've hid it from the world long enough, why must I be mocked?

Everyone's been complaining about how I need to elaborate.
AND TO THE RETARDS WHO THINK I LIVE ON THE INTERNET: I logged off so that I could go out to eat with my aunt. Did the fact that I don't log on 24/7 ever cross your thick skulls?

Here's the thing. I swollowed 2 875mg capsules of amoxicilin, 4 500mg capsules of tylenol, and some...what was it? Asterin or something to that effect. I don't know how much I took of the last one, but it wasn't a lot.

The reference to "A beautiful corpse" was saying that I didn't want to leave my blood splattered on the walls. And yes it was supposed to be a touch poetic.
Get over it.
Yes I am a girl, yes I am in highschool, and this is my 3rd time attempting suicide. First time, I was caught. Second time I chickened out, I flinched and cut the edge of my hand instead of my wrists. Then my mom came home and I had to hide in the bathroom until the bleeding stopped.
Want to read my suicide note?

if you want...im or email me..i wont belittle you,and no i dont need to see a note.
by the way..aspirin,tylenol and antibiotics aint gonna kill you,just make you ill as all shit.
trust me..life aint all that bad..the one poster who said travel/party is right..if your truly alone..get the hell out and have FUN,not mope about the house/loft/flat..whatever you foreigners call a room!

j/k

Im suprised no one brougght the "Failing at failing" link from Maddox's site or one of his other suicide links. The only one I have at hand is
This onehttp://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=suicide

Think whatever you will about me, this was yesterday's suicide note.

I took...the last of my amoxicilin, tylenol...and something else, what was it? Asterin or something like that.

Is that enough to kill me?

I hope that it is. I couldn't face anyone I knew today, knowing how I'll hurt them. How I'm going to commit this one last act of selfishness and...

What would I say to Natalie? I'm sorry. Really I am, don't blame yourself.

To Ryan? Don't cry for me.

To Brigid? I am most sorry to you than anyone else. I feel like I'm turning my back and running away, but sometimes the best stratagy is to just run...run away...into eternity...

To everyone else? Sorry.

My chest hurts.

I'm starting to have second thoughts. I'm scared.

I feel like god is mocking me. I said, before I took the medicine, "Have someone call me if you can find a reason for me to live." and it's been at least 15 minutes, and no one has called. It's almost like he's saying "The world is better off without you, kill yourself. Show them your selfishness. Your pride. Your pain."

No one saw my pain.

I wish that I could start again, somewhere else, anywhere else. I'd find a better way to keep myself from getting to this.

But so many things pain me right now...and it's gotten to the point that thinking about my death makes me laugh and dance around the room. It's high time that I tried again.

For the third time is the charm, as they say.

It's suffocating...how many people came to tell me they cared. It's suffocating, the amount of calls I got. And it's suffocating how no one who says they care, cares for the right reasons. You care because I'm going to die, not because you know and love me. Not because I'll be sorely missed. Not because you can't bear the thought of being somewhere, anywhere, without me there and telling you in a mocking tone "Are you stupid?"

I hurt myself, but the pain was nothing. The blood proved nothing other than the fact that my heart was still beating. My heart my heart. It still hurts.

Am I scaring you? Don't be surprised if you don't see me...don't be surprised if you do see me either.

I'm...very scared. I'm having second thoughts. ...Well, it's too late for that now. Now, it's either I die, or I fail and wake up in the morning to my alarm.

I'm still right here.

Are you scared now? I'm sorry.

But I can't stop how I feel.

And the emotions in my head are enough to burst. My thoughts are spinning around and around, dancing in my head, not making any sense...

Sorry, and Good Night.

And stop calling me emo!
I've hid it from the world long enough, why must I be mocked?

well that says alot..don't it....i wasnt mocking emo..i was fucking laughing.

imho... emo's get attention by acting like they dont want it..but thats a whole nother subject..lol

what i said i stand by though...barring the mocking/laughing emo stuff..and i guess i am emo..cause i care=emotional:fluffle:

well that says alot..don't it....i wasnt mocking emo..i was fucking laughing.

imho... emo's get attention by acting like they dont want it..but thats a whole nother subject..lol

what i said i stand by though...barring the mocking/laughing emo stuff..and i guess i am emo..cause i care=emotional:fluffle:
If you care you are a nice guy. Emos listen to shitty music. Difference.

If you care you are a nice guy. Emos listen to shitty music. Difference.
So because I don't listen to Green day I'm not emo? yay! one more reason to live *fake cheer*
EDIT: Cheer as in "Huzzah" not happiness. I am happy I'm not emo

So because I don't listen to Green day I'm not emo? yay! one more reason to live *fake cheer*
Im not good w/ depressed people and this could backfire horribly but:
Make a list of all you have to live for, I think that could do more harm than good though.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=manly_suicide

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=manly_suicide
I was going to post that but she is in fact a girl...

... I Have No Respect For Anyone Who Actually Attempts Suicide. Your're Taking The Easy Way Out. Instead Of Taking Life Head On, You Decide To Give Up Instead. You Are A Coward. Don't Ask Anyone For Help. Just... Go Away...

... I Have No Respect For Anyone Who Actually Attempts Suicide. Your're Taking The Easy Way Out. Instead Of Taking Life Head On, You Decide To Give Up Instead. You Are A Coward. Don't Ask Anyone For Help. Just... Go Away...
But are you not turning your back on me?
Is that not just as cowardly?

What would I say to Natalie? I'm sorry. Really I am, don't blame yourself.

To Ryan? Don't cry for me.

To Brigid? I am most sorry to you than anyone else. I feel like I'm turning my back and running away, but sometimes the best stratagy is to just run...run away...into eternity...

To everyone else? Sorry.

Im sure you are sincere about not wanting to hurt these people..but you will..some, or all of them may question and blame themselves for the rest of their lives. Trust me I know.
I know when you have tunnel vision its hard to focus on these things.
I believe everyone has a purpose..no one is here by chance.
Sometimes you have to grab yourself and hang on, and I know its easier said than done.
There are so many people that havent had a chance to meet you yet and vice versa..so many things yet to experience.
If you take it one day, hour, or even one minute at a time..you can do it.
What advice would you give a loved one who came to you with this..would you want them to fight or to give in to it?
Also..dont be afraid to ask for help..it may help you to feel less alone in this world. There are hotline numbers..talk to someone..remain anonymous if you choose.

I already think I'm a coward and selfish, don't remind me.

I already think I'm a coward and selfish, don't remind me.
Just wondering what year of highschool are you in. Im a freshmen.

I already think I'm a coward and selfish, don't remind me.
Silence and Nothing, some people here just aren't helpful at all. Ignore them. :)

Just wondering what year of highschool are you in. Im a freshmen.
Sophmore. Failing College French, advanced US History and repeating Algebra I. I'm a failure there too.
Sorry, that came out of nowhere.

Sophmore. Failing College French, advanced US History and repeating Algebra I. I'm a failure there too.
Sorry, that came out of nowhere.
I have a C in honors bio and one in Algebra I

Algebra I is a bitch, dont worry about it.

I have a C in honors bio and one in Algebra I

Algebra I is a bitch, dont worry about it.
Math is a bitch. Math should die.

Math is a bitch. Math should die.
I am bad at math, and just plain don't enjoy it. I do believe I did well on my quiz on eliminations and substitutions today though.

How do you fail Algebra? I think I slept through every day of that class and still got an A. Plus, I took it while still in 8th grade. I will admit however, that this strategy isn't working too well for me in Calculus. I only have a B. :(

Don't mean to make you feel bad or anything, but God damn...

Alrighty, I just woke up so I'm not going to be as eloquent as usual, sorry about that in advance.

As was said before, if this is a cry for attention, you have it. Yay!

The fact that you have bothered to mention there was already attempts at suicide is a good sign, it means part of you still wants to live.
Also being afraid durring the attempt and fudging it is a good sign as well. It will help you figure out why it is you will still want to live and continue on.

When you aren't afraid is when you really have to worry, unfortunately by that point it's usually too late to worry.

Anyway, if you need someone to talk to, send a message to my nation, I work with teens who are suicidal/homocidal as part of my job each day, I'd like to help if you want it.

How do you fail Algebra? I think I slept through every day of that class and still got an A. Plus, I took it while still in 8th grade. I will admit however, that this strategy isn't working too well for me in Calculus. I only have a B. :(

Don't mean to make you feel bad or anything, but God damn...
I didn't fail, I got a D and the geometry teacher said she wouldn't allow me in her class unless I had a B so I had to repeat.
I hate her. Grrrrr...
Oh, and I still scored 85% higher than the rest of the people taking the standarized test for algebra AND geometry, which I have yet to take.
Take that standarized tests! you're too easy!

i'm not sure what i'm supposed to say, I've never been suicidal or even depressed, really sad, but never depressed. I'm a senior in high school, and If you're depressed about grades, please don't be. There is plenty of time left to improve them, and they don't matter all that much anyway. There is college for everyone, or a job. I would encourage talking to a parent, another friend, or someone else you can confide in. I have talked to a few people who have attempted suicide, and fortunately none of them have been successful. They have told me that when you're down, it feels like nothing in the world can or will go right, but after a while like that, stuff starts getting better. I hope and pray that you can stick it out, and eventually stuff will get better


Best of luck, Coleman

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

Skipping over 7 pages of response so I may repeat something. This is coming from someone else who has attempted suicide and failed miserably. (I still recognize that just about everyone else wants me alive more than I do) First - figure out what it is that makes you feel like you don't deserve to live. You do, and what/whoever is making you feel otherwise needs to be eliminated from your life. Second (this works for me, results may vary) - Try to understand how important you are to the people around you. While you may not think you deserve to live, there are probably a lot of people whose lives would be worse for not having you in them.

Tell the Geometry teacher that her class is useless and will be mostly ignored throughout the entire rest of the Math classes you may or may not take. Because it will.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

Standard procedures would dictate that I say to kill yourself, however for some reason your story sounds different than the emo's and attention whores who usually post this drivel.

Bottom line is...grow some balls and face life. Otherwise, take the wuss way out and kill yourself. Ither way remind me to give you a slap in the face for being so stupid next time I see you.

One thing I'd like to let you know now, being afraid of death doesn't make you a coward, it makes you sane.
To be honest I've been in a few shootouts and was terrified in each one. The trick is to not let the fear control you. Fear of death isn't a bad thing, and fear of most other things is pretty damn usefull. The trick is not to let the fear control you. Learn to use it, it's a powerfull tool, if it wasn't we wouldn't still have it after so many millions of years as mammals.

High school sucks. AFTER high school is when life hopefully gets better! :)

High school sucks. AFTER high school is when life hopefully gets better! :)
Hahahahaha.

High school sucks. AFTER high school is when life hopefully gets better! :)
Is it for you? I hated middle school when I was there now I remeber it fondly. Chances are same exact pattern will happen for highschool.

... I Have No Respect For Anyone Who Actually Attempts Suicide. Your're Taking The Easy Way Out. Instead Of Taking Life Head On, You Decide To Give Up Instead. You Are A Coward. Don't Ask Anyone For Help. Just... Go Away...

I have no respect for anybody who makes flat judgements like that. Not to mention who feels the need to capitalize every single word they write. As you judge others, so shall you be judged. Unless you've been there, STFU.

How do you fail Algebra? I think I slept through every day of that class and still got an A. Plus, I took it while still in 8th grade. I will admit however, that this strategy isn't working too well for me in Calculus. I only have a B. :(

Don't mean to make you feel bad or anything, but God damn...

I guess that means you had an easy teacher. I practically taught trig/pre-cal last semester, and already have people asking me to tutor them in Calculus. Guess what I made the first time I took Algebra...an F. I flat out refused to do my homework, and that will tend to happen.

Is it for you? I hated middle school when I was there now I remeber it fondly. Chances are same exact pattern will happen for highschool.


No, I graduated a long time ago. Still don't like highschool memories.
After highschool things got to be a lot of fun. Still getting better to!

I have no respect for anybody who makes flat judgements like that. Not to mention who feels the need to capitalize every single word they write. As you judge others, so shall you be judged. Unless you've been there, STFU.
OF course when you apply this statement to people who do not want a war, yet have not been there to see the horrible wrongs against humanity commited by the people in power this does not apply, am I right?

High school sucks. AFTER high school is when life hopefully gets better! :)

Very true, there is a much...much better world outside highschool.

Come to think of it, it's rather funny to see how those who were top popularity in HS slam into a wall outside the bubble of HS.

Every time someone commits suicide, a serial killer loses his wings.

But seriously, if you can imagine one person who would be upset by your sudden, self-inficted death, don't do it. It's foolish to imagine that you're the only person it would affect, and ultimately selfish.

I'm going to bed, so don't complain that I'm not responding!!!
I have to wake up early tomorrow and go to school and it's already 11:30PM here.
Nighty night.

I'm going to bed, so don't complain that I'm not responding!!!
I have to wake up early tomorrow and go to school and it's already 11:30PM here.
Nighty night.
Its 1130 here to and I have tutorials tomorrow morning, but I instead of doin hw, I spent the night on NS.

OF course when you apply this statement to people who do not want a war, yet have not been there to see the horrible wrongs against humanity commited by the people in power this does not apply, am I right?

Wow, that's one hell of a stretch to make as a comparison. As this is probably a reference to Iraq, I find it hard to believe that the "humanitarian" purpose to the war existed before the terrorist angle started to lose credibility. Look at the results. Would you like to claim that things are better now that Iraq really has become a breeding ground for terrorists?

Wow, that's one hell of a stretch to make as a comparison. As this is probably a reference to Iraq, I find it hard to believe that the "humanitarian" purpose to the war existed before the terrorist angle started to lose credibility. Look at the results. Would you like to claim that things are better now that Iraq really has become a breeding ground for terrorists?
no, it is not compared to Iraq. If it were the same grounds would apply of course though?

I can hardly believe some of the responses I've read on this thread. Clearly a large number of people have an incredible lack of understanding of depression and suicide attempts/threats, despite what some may claim.

As for those claiming Silence and Nothing is attention-seeking, even if she is, did you ever bother to consider why she is doing so? People who cry suicide for attention have issues that need addressed anyway and while some criticism may be due for their methodology, such levels of animosity as can be seen here help no one.

Besides, you simply do not have enough evidence that that is what she is doing. Why is she here talking about this on an internet forum, you ask? Why not? I fully advocate discussing this with someone close to the suicidal person, of course, but that is easy to say and not always easy to achieve. I know she's already brought it up with one friend, but given that he proffered no useful advice or (seemingly) assistance of any kind, is it really so unreasonable that she discusses it anonymously on an internet forum, where she might have hoped (erroneously, for the most part, in this instance :rolleyes:) that someone may have some useful commentary?

This sort of thing should always be taken seriously, regardless of whether or not you think it seems serious. Criticising a person in this way and telling them to grow up or whatever shows a huge, and quite possibly willful, ignorance on depression and some of the causes of suicide threats and attempts.

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Silence and Nothing, life can get better. I know your friend reacted badly to this, and to be fair to him, that may be understandable - he's probably angry since he cares about you and feels losing you would be a shocking waste (which I'm sure it would be). I would advocate trying to talk to him again about your thoughts and feelings when you had suicidal thoughts. It might not work but it's worth a try. When I was at my lowest ebb of depression, I had a friend who thought along similar lines to many on this thread; that I was attention-seeking, not facing reality, yada yada yada. However, when I explained to him how utterly desolate the world could look when experiencing such times, although he would still have been dead against suicide (no pun intended), he at least had some understanding of why I might think about it. As it turned out, his support was one of the things that helped me through the worst days. This may or may not happen for you, but you can try.

Furthermore, please tell your parents. If not that you attempted suicide, at least that you (sometimes?) get depressed. They may initially see it as a teenage thing (I'm guessing that you're a teenager since there has been reference to high school), but again bear with them and explain all your thoughts and feelings when you're in such a state.

If that fails, discuss these issues with a teacher, school counsellor or some other person that you trust. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, go to a doctor. He or she can either prescribe appropriate medication if you feel comfortable with that, or perhaps refer you to a pyschologist/pyschiatrist.

You're very welcome to TG me as well if you want to talk about this. Good luck.

-snip-

Thanks Kazcaper. I was really quite annoyed after reading through this thread and you said it better than I did.

Thanks Kazcaper. I was really quite annoyed after reading through this thread and you said it better than I did.Thanks :) You were one of what appeared to be a minority trying to be helpful, showing some empathy and whatnot, and that in itself is very worthwhile :fluffle:

Thanks Kazcaper. I was really quite annoyed after reading through this thread and you said it better than I did.
I agree. It almost shocks me how idiotic some people here are, despite their occassional brilliance in other areas. I have had suicidal thoughts myself, yet also too much self-determination to put them in practice. So I understand where people like this are coming from.

... I Have No Respect For Anyone Who Actually Attempts Suicide. Your're Taking The Easy Way Out. Instead Of Taking Life Head On, You Decide To Give Up Instead. You Are A Coward. Don't Ask Anyone For Help. Just... Go Away...
I almost had begun to think you're mature for your age. You just went and proved the exact opposite. You're 13, but really, begin growing up.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?the toughest thing to do is to learn how to live with yourself. The easiest method is to find someone to talk about it. I don't mean a shrink (but a Psychiatrist is your best bet)

I'm not the best on advice, but if you wanna talk, you can TG me.

I haven't read through the thread. From what I see on this last page, I'm glad I didn't. This isn't a matter I joke with. And that IS saying something!

Silence and Nothing:

Please, don't ignore your feelings and please don't keep them to yourself. Talk to people about them: Your friends, your family, your priest, a guidance counselor. Someone you can trust. If you don't know who to trust, then at least talk to someone who has to keep your confidence like a psychiatrist, psychologist or a priest.

But the most important thing is that you sound your problems off to someone else. At the very least, this sounding board will help you think things through and find solutions you wouldn't expect. And chances are, the person you talk to will provide other solutions you didn't consider.

Feel free to tg me also if you need someone to listen. But in all honesty, typed messages on a forum is no substitute for a real world conversation.

I can hardly believe some of the responses I've read on this thread. Clearly a large number of people have an incredible lack of understanding of depression and suicide attempts/threats, despite what some may claim.

As for those claiming Silence and Nothing is attention-seeking, even if she is, did you ever bother to consider why she is doing so? People who cry suicide for attention have issues that need addressed anyway and while some criticism may be due for their methodology, such levels of animosity as can be seen here help no one.

Besides, you simply do not have enough evidence that that is what she is doing. Why is she here talking about this on an internet forum, you ask? Why not? I fully advocate discussing this with someone close to the suicidal person, of course, but that is easy to say and not always easy to achieve. I know she's already brought it up with one friend, but given that he proffered no useful advice or (seemingly) assistance of any kind, is it really so unreasonable that she discusses it anonymously on an internet forum, where she might have hoped (erroneously, for the most part, in this instance :rolleyes:) that someone may have some useful commentary?

This sort of thing should always be taken seriously, regardless of whether or not you think it seems serious. Criticising a person in this way and telling them to grow up or whatever shows a huge, and quite possibly willful, ignorance on depression and some of the causes of suicide threats and attempts.

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Silence and Nothing, life can get better. I know your friend reacted badly to this, and to be fair to him, that may be understandable - he's probably angry since he cares about you and feels losing you would be a shocking waste (which I'm sure it would be). I would advocate trying to talk to him again about your thoughts and feelings when you had suicidal thoughts. It might not work but it's worth a try. When I was at my lowest ebb of depression, I had a friend who thought along similar lines to many on this thread; that I was attention-seeking, not facing reality, yada yada yada. However, when I explained to him how utterly desolate the world could look when experiencing such times, although he would still have been dead against suicide (no pun intended), he at least had some understanding of why I might think about it. As it turned out, his support was one of the things that helped me through the worst days. This may or may not happen for you, but you can try.

Furthermore, please tell your parents. If not that you attempted suicide, at least that you (sometimes?) get depressed. They may initially see it as a teenage thing (I'm guessing that you're a teenager since there has been reference to high school), but again bear with them and explain all your thoughts and feelings when you're in such a state.

If that fails, discuss these issues with a teacher, school counsellor or some other person that you trust. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, go to a doctor. He or she can either prescribe appropriate medication if you feel comfortable with that, or perhaps refer you to a pyschologist/pyschiatrist.

You're very welcome to TG me as well if you want to talk about this. Good luck.


oh please, it's just emo-kids who think that the world is against them etc.
The world isn't out to make your life miserable, you're not the center of the universe. (http://attentionemokids.ytmnd.com/)

I get depression-attacks all the time and I don't go around saying "oooh feel sorry for me, I'm going to kill myself now kthxbye"

God damn youth of today want to be so effing special...

Thanks :) You were one of what appeared to be a minority trying to be helpful, showing some empathy and whatnot, and that in itself is very worthwhile :fluffle:

:)

I agree. It almost shocks me how idiotic some people here are, despite their occassional brilliance in other areas. I have had suicidal thoughts myself, yet also too much self-determination to put them in practice. So I understand where people like this are coming from.

Yeah. I just have to wonder how much it would really hurt some people to bite their tongue - or in this case, fingers :p - and just not say a word. It'd really be helpful in this instance.

Yeah. I just have to wonder how much it would really hurt some people to bite their tongue - or in this case, fingers :p - and just not say a word. It'd really be helpful in this instance.
They are genetically incapable of doing so. It goes against their very existence. :p

God damn youth of today want to be so effing special...
God damn society of today for demanding them to be so special. Do you think there isn't pressure on us? We keep on hearing corporations who want hundred page long lists of achievements, proving how we stand out. Parents also put their fair share of pressure on us, and then there is peer pressure. We live in a society where not being special gets you cast out.

oh please, it's just emo-kids who think that the world is against them etc.
The world isn't out to make your life miserable, you're not the center of the universe. (http://attentionemokids.ytmnd.com/)

I get depression-attacks all the time and I don't go around saying "oooh feel sorry for me, I'm going to kill myself now kthxbye"

God damn youth of today want to be so effing special...If you feel you should bottle up all your depressive thoughts and feelings, that's up to you. Anybody well versed in the area will tell you that it's actually better to get them out in the open.

No, one person is not the centre of the universe. However, depressive illnesses do not cause one to act or think rationally. It is misery, and even attempting to bring oneself away from that is at best difficult.

Oh, and for the record, it's not just "emo-kids" that think the world is against them. This is not always, but often, a by-product of clinical depression, which is most common in people aged 25-44 years according to http://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/page.cfm?pagecode=PMMHST.

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The great nepenthe. Opiate of our masses. Glue of our great society. Salve and salvation, it has delivered us from pathos, from sorrow, the deepest chasms of melancholy and hate. With it, we anesthetize grief, annihilate jealousy, obliterate rage. Those sister impulses towards joy, love, and elation are anesthetized in stride, we accept as fair sacrifice.
from Equilibrium (2002 film)

...ok, not that severe, lol.

Please seek help!! Depression can be managed with medication and/or therapy. There is no such thing as a beautiful corpse.

If you really meant to succeed (which i doubt)things will never get any better. No one's life is perfect and your whole future wont be a rose filled love-fest everyday, most of us are lucky enough to have moments, hours, days and even weeks now and again. Be patient, learn what you can from the hard and lonely times because that old cliche really is true, "what doesnt kill you makes you stronger" I am hoping you are young and don't realise the impact attempting suicide has on those who care for you. They may feel they are being manipulated by the threat of a repeat performance and that does tend to upset people. Those who have lost friends and loved ones to suicide will be angry and stay that way for a long time so when someone else they care for talks about it it's hard to be sympathetic! Just behind that anger is guilt and grief because, lets face it, we could all be nicer to each other but seldom are! That's life and really its a gift.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

I tried to kill myself one night and failed for some reason. Looking back I don't even understand what drove myself to do something so selfish.

In time I figured that if I'm going to die it's going to be protecting someone I love. Despite all pain I would devout my life to protecting and guiding those who need it.

My friend told me he just wanted to kill myself and I laughed and said: "You're years behind me again bro." We both laughed after that. I could never hurt my parents and friends like that, not after all they've done for me. Never.

I have no respect for anybody who makes flat judgements like that. Not to mention who feels the need to capitalize every single word they write. As you judge others, so shall you be judged. Unless you've been there, STFU.
Actually, I Have. I Almost Commited Suicide Once. I Know What It Feels Like To Be In That State. But Then It Goes Away, And You Realize How Stupid You Were For Thinking That.

I almost had begun to think you're mature for your age. You just went and proved the exact opposite. You're 13, but really, begin growing up.
Tell Me, Have You Ever Been Depressed Or Attempted Suicide? Has Anyone You Known Been Depressed Or Attempted Or Sucessfully Commited Suicide? If So, You Should Know What I'm Talking About When I Say I Have No Respect For Them. They Tear Their Family And Friends Apart. They're Completely Selfish, Leaving Everyone Who Cares About Them, Completely Cowardly, Leaving The World Instead Of Taking It Head On. I Still Feel The Guilt From When I Tried To Commit Suicide. I Then Knew Why So Many Religions Believe Suicide A Sin. It May Kill One Person Physically, But It Will Kill So Many Others Emotionally.

My advice:

1. Determine, for yourself, exactly why you wish to end your life.
2. Talk about this with others who are close to you. Ask for their perspective. They may say things you hadn't even thought of. Be brave enough to admit it to yourself if you were just being silly. If not...
3. Talk about it with professionals. I recommend a doctor, a psychologist and a representative of your religion (if you have one). Explain you reasons, inform yourself what the consequences would be for your immortal soul if such things concern you etc.
4. If the doctors agree that ending your life is a rational choice they should be able to aid you to die and leave a beautiful corpse. Assuming noone managed to change your mind of course.

In any case: it is *your* life. Your decision what you do with it. Just make sure you actually thought it through - and if you haven't dicussed your reasons with at least 2 experts you *haven't*. If you could do it alone we wouldn't be having this conversation, but you would be ruling the planet with your supreme intelligence.

Tell Me, Have You Ever Been Depressed Or Attempted Suicide? Has Anyone You Known Been Depressed Or Attempted Or Sucessfully Commited Suicide? If So, You Should Know What I'm Talking About When I Say I Have No Respect For Them. They Tear Their Family And Friends Apart. They're Completely Selfish, Leaving Everyone Who Cares About Them, Completely Cowardly, Leaving The World Instead Of Taking It Head On. I Still Feel The Guilt From When I Tried To Commit Suicide. I Then Knew Why So Many Religions Believe Suicide A Sin. It May Kill One Person Physically, But It Will Kill So Many Others Emotionally.
Yeah, I even said I have had suicidal thoughts. And trust me, an existence which is merely to keep others from suffering emotional trauma is hardly a good one at all. To you that may sound selfish, yet is it? Should a person merely exist to keep others happy, even if they are drenched in misery? Do you think killing yourself, going against very human nature is something easy to do? Some people become so desperate they see it as the only way out.

Ask for help off friends, parents, teachers, counsellor...someone you can trust. And don't worry about school, its not the end if you fail a few classes, despite what teachers tell you (I screwed up my music qualifications at school...and here I am, doing a music degree and working as a musician and engineer. Grades don't mean as much as you think)

But, in all honesty, I think if you'd been sure you wanted to kill yourself, you'd have either succeeded, or ended up in a bad way in hospital. Taking a few pills is a cry for help rather than a suicide attempt.

Some of you people are real assholes. Maybe she just doesn't have anybody else to talk to.

Some of you people are real assholes. Maybe she just doesn't have anybody else to talk to.
Or to help her even.

Should a person merely exist to keep others happy, even if they are drenched in misery?

That's just digging into a juicy philosophical topic.

However suicide is not something that should be done so spontaneously. To suffer so greatly to want your own end is something that has to be built from years and years of excruciating pain. Some people who kill themselves do so from a case of clinical depression which in most cases occurs in durations of a week or two. Anything more sever would be the type of depression where the victim is too lethargic to even kill themselves. So to end years of pleasure, happiness, and potential over a few weeks is just unimaginable in a rational mind. I myself have bouts of clinical depression where I just despise every waking moment of existance for no reason and yet, I know It'll get better, someday. Btw it has.

That's just digging into a juicy philosophical topic.
And one that is directly relevant to this whole matter of purported "selfishness" with relation to suicide.

However suicide is not something that should be done so spontaneously. To suffer so greatly to want your own end is something that has to be built from years and years of excruciating pain. Some people who kill themselves do so from a case of clinical depression which in most cases occurs in durations of a week or two. Anything more sever would be the type of depression where the victim is too lethargic to even kill themselves. So to end years of pleasure, happiness, and potential over a few weeks is just unimaginable in a rational mind. I myself have bouts of clinical depression where I just despise every waking moment of existance for no reason and yet, I know It'll get better, someday. Btw it has.
Agreed on this. I would not take my own life based on these actual reasons, even if I do consider it at times due to mood swings.

Tell Me, Have You Ever Been Depressed Or Attempted Suicide? Has Anyone You Known Been Depressed Or Attempted Or Sucessfully Commited Suicide? If So, You Should Know What I'm Talking About When I Say I Have No Respect For Them. They Tear Their Family And Friends Apart. They're Completely Selfish, Leaving Everyone Who Cares About Them, Completely Cowardly, Leaving The World Instead Of Taking It Head On. I Still Feel The Guilt From When I Tried To Commit Suicide. I Then Knew Why So Many Religions Believe Suicide A Sin. It May Kill One Person Physically, But It Will Kill So Many Others Emotionally.



Have you ever taken a course in grammar? Stop capitalizing the first letter of every freaking word! It's really irritating, and it makes your posts even more difficult to read.

So to end years of pleasure, happiness, and potential over a few weeks is just unimaginable in a rational mind.

One could also commit suicide for other reasons than suffering. For instance really liking the idea of dying at age 75, since that has always been your favourite number. Or being curious if there is an afterlife. Having accomplished all you wanted to do, and feeling like it is therefor time to sign off. Having a dying son who can be saved if they transplant your heart into them. Jumping in front of a truck to save a baby. Sacrificing yourself for something you believe in - making a statement. Simply not considering dying a big deal.

Want me to go on ;) ?

A 19 year old guy down the road literally 5 houses away killed themselves on saturday night, well early sunday morning, he shot himself with his dads rifle, now this si Scotland it is not easy to get a gun. This has caused major sadness around here for i knew him not well but even i am sad about this loss. Suicide is never a way out, it is a silly idea, and it only upsets people.

One could also commit suicide for other reasons than suffering. For instance really liking the idea of dying at age 75, since that has always been your favourite number. Or being curious if there is an afterlife. Having accomplished all you wanted to do, and feeling like it is therefor time to sign off. Having a dying son who can be saved if they transplant your heart into them. Jumping in front of a truck to save a baby. Sacrificing yourself for something you believe in - making a statement. Simply not considering dying a big deal.

Want me to go on ;) ?

I was talking about suicide over Clinical Depression which is typically the most common reason why. Of course you could go into all the classifications of suicide: "Obligatory Altruistic, Egoistic, Anomic, etc, etc." But they are fairly irrelevant to the subject matter.

As for the issue of not commiting suicide because it inself is selfish and intrinsic, well what don't humans do because it makes us happy to some extent? Everything we do has a "selfish" value to it, everything.

Edit: Woot 3.5k posts, no longer a cabbage patch girl!

As for the issue of not commiting suicide because it inself is selfish and intrinsic, well what don't humans do because it makes us happy to some extent? Everything we do has a "selfish" value to it, everything.

Edit: Woot 3.5k posts, no longer a cabbage patch girl!
Exactly. We are a species driven by self-interest. One could equally say that expecting a person to stay alive, even if they are miserable, just to keep another happy is selfishness on the latter person's part.

Exactly. We are a species driven by self-interest. One could equally say that expecting a person to stay alive, even if they are miserable, just to keep another happy is selfishness on the latter person's part.

Well this goes into Utility/Sentiment and this is going to be an arguement driven by pure opinion.

Also every species is driven by self-interest, otherwise we would have died out a long time ago. A pack of humans each sacrificing themselves trying to save the other from a pack of lions in example. Luckily our ancestors ran after the first person got eaten.

I am appalled. MOTHERFUCKING APPALLED. Out of sheer, morbid curiousity I read the 10 pages of this thread... and I have to say I have never seen such a sickening waste of bytes and bandwith, or such despicable people.

When many of the responses in a thread about someone attempting suicide boil down to 'do it,' 'you're an emo pussy' and 'you're stupid,' one cannot help but be drawn to the conclusion that this site is filled with assholes.

To the people who actually responded sincerely, well that goes to show that there's some humanity residing in this forum. You're good folk. But to the rest of you.... if I were near any of you I'd spit in your faces. And you know what... it'd be a waste of my saliva.

@ Silence and Nothing - You've heard it a bunch of times... but I'll say it again, Suicide is a bad, baaad plan. Listen to me - you don't deserve to suffer, you don't deserve to die. I may just be a faceless poster on some internet forum, but even I know that you deserve better than that. And you know what? Your posting here shows that deep inside you know it too.

You ask what you should do with yourself. If you're this close to the edge, maybe you need a helping hand to pull you back from the brink, so to speak. There are plenty of people who can and will help you - go to family, or if you're not comfortable with that go to friends, teachers, the school counsellor... pretty much anyone you'd feel safe talking to. Tell them how you feel, explain where you are, and don't be too proud to ask for help. They can help you.

I wish you good luck.

Well this goes into Utility/Sentiment and this is going to be an arguement driven by pure opinion.
More or less so. :)

Also every species is driven by self-interest, otherwise we would have died out a long time ago. A pack of humans each sacrificing themselves trying to save the other from a pack of lions in example. Luckily our ancestors ran after the first person got eaten.
Exactly. We wouldn't have survived much longer otherwise.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.

What did you do?

Exactly. We wouldn't have survived much longer otherwise.

So is it wrong to be interested in one's self?

Personally I think it comes down to moderation. Everything must be controlled to an extent. Excess anything leads to self destruction: Appetite, Spirituality, and even Reason. But in this case an excess of Selfishness is especially bad, not for the person sommiting suicide but for the dozens of people affected by it afterwards. I'm not a utilitarian by any means but the weight of one person's depression can almost never equal the pain of those who lose that person.

So is it wrong to be interested in one's self?

Personally I think it comes down to moderation. Everything must be controlled to an extent. Excess anything leads to self destruction: Appetite, Spirituality, and even Reason. But in this case an excess of Selfishness is especially bad, not for the person sommiting suicide but for the dozens of people affected by it afterwards. I'm not a utilitarian by any means but the weight of one person's depression can almost never equal the pain of those who lose that person.
So what degree of selflesness does a person have to possess to continue solely living a life for others?

So what degree of selflesness does a person have to possess to continue solely living a life for others?

Almost none, a person who wants to kill themselves must be pretty uninterested in their own well being. However, I hate to see human life wasted. Since one cannot find pleasure in selfishness perhaps there will come satisfaction from other's joy. If not than perhaps it is one's best interest to end their own life since there is absolutely no hope for prosperity.

Almost none, a person who wants to kill themselves must be pretty uninterested in their own well being. However, I hate to see human life wasted. Since one cannot find pleasure in selfishness perhaps there will come satisfaction from other's joy. If not than perhaps it is one's best interest to end their own life since there is absolutely no hope for prosperity.
I think there are always ways to rectify things in your life and improve it, although I will agree with you here if a person is indeed that convinced that their existence is futile.

When many of the responses in a thread about someone attempting suicide boil down to 'do it,' 'you're an emo pussy' and 'you're stupid,' one cannot help but be drawn to the conclusion that this site is filled with assholes.

You forgot "think it over, ask professionals for their opinion and then decide".

We cannot make the decision for him/her. They should do that themselves - must do that themselves since we cannot monitor them 24/7. We can only listen and point out ways to find answers. Maybe change their mind in the process; but if you aim for that the risk of backfire is very, very great.

Face your fears. Get some self-esteem. You'll feel so much better if you face your fears and accomplish things you didn't think you could accomplish.

Laugh and the world laughs with you,
Cry and you cry alone

Live slow, die in late middle age, leave an arteriosclerotic corpse.

Live slow, die in late middle age, leave an arteriosclerotic corpse.

..That just wouldn't be as dramatic.

..That just wouldn't be as dramatic.
Well then make sure you drag yourself, while you're dying, into a closet or cabinet at your place of business where nobody will find you for a while after your dead. When someone comes to investigate the odor they're in for a rather dramatic shock.

I'm so glad you didn't die. Don't allow yourself to become just another statistic. Talk to a counsellor and become a success story. Never believe that you'd be better off dead, always remember that you have a positive influence on people you don't even realise - like the spotty kid working his first day on the job who screws up your change when you pick up some groceries, you know, the one you smiled at and told not to worry about it. Or the one person who got medical treatment because of a small donation you shoved into a charity box for the third world over the holidays.

You do matter at least to one other person in this world, and without you in it, someone elses life isn't quite the same.

Stay safe.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

Firstly, am kinda in the same circumstances, albeit less suicidal. My sympathies:)

Secondly, I was hoping for a narcissistic discussion as to why the means available to you were not likely to leave a sufficiently beautiful scene befitting you.:(

Thirdly, dont do it, talk to people, and, eventually, they help.

Considering suicide is Hypocritical, as it involves judging yourself. Not even thinking about suicide makes you worth living already, so, no reason to even think about it.

I believe the greatest thing a person can do is go from being a Hypocrite to a modest person. It's a pretty rare thing for people to do.

In agreement with a previous post, I think the level of complete apathy towards this girl is atrocious. She's suicidal, doubting her own worth and looking for some friendly and completely anonymous help through NS forums. It's not the easiest thing to do to go to an adult, an authority figure and tell them that you want to die. But with a little encouragement from us, she might go looking for the help she needs. Telling a suicidal person that she's stupid, a fool, a failure, waste of space, etc, etc, etc, how is that going to help? What if she made the final decision to do it because of one of your spiteful comments? How would you feel with her death on your consience for the rest of your natural life?

Hey, Silence and Nothing, if you want to TG me, I won't put you down. Just remember that life will get better when you go to college, meet your first love, join a club and do something you absolutely love with a bunch of other people who love doing it with you. University changed me, really brought me out of my shell. School I hated, didn't do amazingly well, even though I had brains to burn. Life changes, so stick around and see what happens next, I can guarantee you that it will change for the better! :D

Life changes, so stick around and see what happens next, I can guarantee you that it will change for the better!

Without a positive attitude.. how can you say that things will change for the better? They only change when YOU change and start dealing with things in a constructive manner. Life doesn't just suddenly get easier. Be realistic. You've gotta have the positive outlook to begin with or nothing will happen for the better.

Considering suicide is Hypocritical, as it involves judging yourself. I thought not judging yourself was hypocritical. More likely considering suicide is hypercritical, you're being excessively unfair in judging yourself.

Anyway.. If you don't want your life, donate it to charity. Lots of people that don't have a life that could make good use of it.

Anyway.. If you don't want your life, donate it to charity. Lots of people that don't have a life that could make good use of it.

BEST QUOTE IN THE ENTIRE THREAD. *Gold Star!!!*

Hmm... Am I The Only One Who Noticed? The OP Hasn't Posted In A While. Maybe She Has Slipped Into That Wonderful Eternal Sleep Called Death.

Some people can't be on all day, though.

Hmm... Am I The Only One Who Noticed? The OP Hasn't Posted In A While. Maybe She Has Slipped Into That Wonderful Eternal Sleep Called Death.

Last time someone said that, she threw a hissy fit when she got back.. turns out she was out with her Aunt eating lunch or dinner or something. *Must be tough*

OP STILL Hasn't Posted! Well, Don't Be Suprised When A Thread Comes Up Saying: Silence And Nothing Has Commited Suicide.

OP STILL Hasn't Posted! Well, Don't Be Suprised When A Thread Comes Up Saying: Silence And Nothing Has Commited Suicide.
Oh, shut the hell up.
Here's why I'm not on 24/7 awaiting your responses:
Yesterday my aunt came into town, so I spent most of the evening with her.
I spend almost all day at school, and I'm only allowed 30 minutes on the internet a day, because my mom "doesn't trust me to not get in trouble on the internet" And most of the 30 min is spent listening to dumbass replies like these.
I don't live on the internet, get over it. I cannot get on the internet more than once a day unless I sneak on late at night. You can get over that too.

As you can see, I am still a member of the ungratefull living.

I hate myself because I'm a total fake, and I'm cold and heartless...my friends don't call me the Anti-Cupid for nothing.
I feel as if I'm stuck in an everlasting, forever looping memory.

My mom got pretty pissed last time I told her about the suicide thing, and my grandma and brother don't believe in suicide or depression. They blame it on me for not being optimistic enough. That it's my fault.

Perhaps it is. But it still leaves me with the unpleasant feeling that they aren't going to face it, and they'll shun me.

After all, I was supposed to be the perfect child.

As you can see, I am still a member of the ungratefull living.

I hate myself because I'm a total fake, and I'm cold and heartless...my friends don't call me the Anti-Cupid for nothing.
I feel as if I'm stuck in an everlasting, forever looping memory.
I often feel that way as well, and people often say I am emotionless and cold too. Maybe you need a change of scenery and of friends, a fresh beginning. Find which of your friends are true to you, and rid of those that aren't.

My mom got pretty pissed last time I told her about the suicide thing, and my grandma and brother don't believe in suicide or depression. They blame it on me for not being optimistic enough. That it's my fault.
Your mum is probably shocked. Your grandmother and brother need to get their wits together. You should sit them all done and explain to them how you feel, maybe alongside a therapist. They need to know what is wrong and get out of their ivory towers. This is not just your fault; people around you need to help.

Perhaps it is. But it still leaves me with the unpleasant feeling that they aren't going to face it, and they'll shun me.

After all, I was supposed to be the perfect child.
Do not let such expectations burden you. It is your life, and if you have problems, they are there to help, through better and worse times. My parents tried it a lot with me, but I wouldn't allow them to force expectations on me.

Apathy.

The enemy of positivity....

I was suicidal when I was younger. I still suffer occasionally from black depressions, and no Tom Cruyise is going to tell me that exercise and friggin' diet will make all the difference, unless he can physically remove my thoughts from my head before I have them.

I was a bit of a hypocrite-but aware I was one. I constantly judged myself-I tried to break myself down, psychologically, to find out if I was defective or something...and the worst thing was no-one cared.
Dont get me wrong-people would cry if I died. There would be howling in the streets. I am a daughter, a sister, a cousin, a neice...they just didnt care that I was GOING to. My father said Depression does not exist. Since that one sentence I have never attenpted to broach the subject with him as it seemed to say everything about his attitude.
People accepted it as a character trait, and moved on.
Suicidals do do the strangest things...I once came home after a depressing night. My secret love was with his girlfriend, my friend spent the night making smart remarks at my expense, and Id attended a cremation the week before. Was wearing the exact same outfit. That night I pondered wether to have a Pot Noodle or not...I decided to save it for my dinner tomorrow when I got home from college.
I instead took a mug of tea and a very sharp knife upstairs with me...

Ive never attempted suicide. Ive considered it, as sometimes it seems my future beyond next week seems to vanish into some murky black hole...
I blame apathy, most of the time. We are a generation who've never fought in a war, yet know all about them from an emotional standpoint. We've never struggled with a failing economy, we have disposable income. Irony and sarcasm are our favoured tongue, alongside deadpan americanism. We don't care-not REALLY care about anything besides what we can OWN.

Hearing someone else talk about it brings you to your senses. I read your first post and suddenly felty so sad and upset at the loss of another human being. Please don't kill yourself-you have so much potential, so much that makes you YOU, you're not a useless waste of space-your last post shows you have a strong voice, and its a voice that is recognised by everyone around you.
You can only judge yourself through other people, never through your own eyes. Please stay with us, things will become better-if not, then at least clearer.

If you need to talk, I'm nation Tatouinn. My e-mail adress is there, I dont care how different we are, what countries we live in and what interests we have-if you need help during this depression, Im here, and so are other people on this forum.

Take care of yourself

I thought not judging yourself was hypocritical. More likely considering suicide is hypercritical, you're being excessively unfair in judging yourself.

Anyway.. If you don't want your life, donate it to charity. Lots of people that don't have a life that could make good use of it.


Wowo, a sarcastic and seemingly clever response! That provides no help whatsoever. This girl needs advice, not apathetic responses like this. If you're not here to give her constructive and kind advice, go spam up another fucking forum. Its people like you, with your one-liners and pearls of wisdom nearly made me top myself long ago...

As you can see, I am still a member of the ungratefull living.

I hate myself because I'm a total fake, and I'm cold and heartless...my friends don't call me the Anti-Cupid for nothing.
I feel as if I'm stuck in an everlasting, forever looping memory.

Ditto. I was called Morticia, Death...all sorts. I thought I was fake too, because I didnt really fit the Goth stereotype. Right now Im not any stereotype. Im me. I got overwhelmed by memory lane too-constantly analysing my past etc...my parents had split up and it threw into chaos all my happy childhood memories...I saw this ticking clock in my memories, counting down to disaster after disaster.

My mom got pretty pissed last time I told her about the suicide thing, and my grandma and brother don't believe in suicide or depression. They blame it on me for not being optimistic enough. That it's my fault.

My father does not believe in depression. End of. No help from that quarter. He was part of the source, anyhow...
My mother is a bit breezy about it, but in a way she cheers me up. She jokingly calls me Narky Nat, but she's never moved to help. I think if I told her about the suicide she'd be angry, then start crying. I cant deal when my parents cry...

Perhaps it is. But it still leaves me with the unpleasant feeling that they aren't going to face it, and they'll shun me.

It is not your fault. Its like a psychological sickness. And like a cold or the flu, it can be weathered and it can be cured. We still bear the scars, but we are whole.

After all, I was supposed to be the perfect child.

OMG...

I was supposed to be perfect too. Any more perfect Id have been the firstborn son. No, I was daddys princess, so smart and so clever. Obediant, polite, never spoke until spoken too...then I went downhil, developed a sharp tongue and a decidedly un-pretty face, and my grades dropped to average...then, during my depression, they hardly existed. Im no longer daddy's princess. and my mum treats my sister like an only child, since I moved out. Its all a far cry from when I was the family gem, for not going out clubbing, or watching too much TV...now that honour goes to my overly-qualified cousin, who got ahead of me when it turned out she was much, much prettier....

Maybe theres some sort of trend going on here.

I hope you're here for many years to come. I dont know you, but Id be sad at the loss of another person so similar to myself.

Wowo, a sarcastic and seemingly clever response! That provides no help whatsoever. This girl needs advice, not apathetic responses like this. If you're not here to give her constructive and kind advice, go spam up another fucking forum. Its people like you, with your one-liners and pearls of wisdom nearly made me top myself long ago...
to tell you the truth, it pisses me off more that anything that people are telling me to off myself. I'm not one to take forums seriously...but really do you think I haven't had these thoughts myself?!
*sigh* Caring for the wrong reasons is almost as bad as not caring at all. I'm not asking you to really really care, but put yourself in my shoes and feel like I do for a few minutes and give me advice.
And those pills made me dizzy as hell the day after. Not sure if that was because I was so blinded by the fury directed at my own failure or if it was the drugs though...

to tell you the truth, it pisses me off more that anything that people are telling me to off myself. I'm not one to take forums seriously...but really do you think I haven't had these thoughts myself?!
*sigh* Caring for the wrong reasons is almost as bad as not caring at all. I'm not asking you to really really care, but put yourself in my shoes and feel like I do for a few minutes and give me advice.
And those pills made me dizzy as hell the day after. Not sure if that was because I was so blinded by the fury directed at my own failure or if it was the drugs though...

I'll just give you a quote that I find appropriate.


“We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken away from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.”
-- Victor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning

Last time someone said that, she threw a hissy fit when she got back.. turns out she was out with her Aunt eating lunch or dinner or something. *Must be tough*

You lot are goading her on with your teasing. Why dont you stop with the sarcasm and say what you really mean 'If you're gonna die, well why dont you do it? DO IT!!!' then suddenly you're not so coll and more than a little bit mean and self-righteous.
So, none of you bottom-dwellers ever leave the room where your computer is? Never eat out? Never leave the room to take a dump or go to school/college?
Leave the girl alone.
Im sure theres another great thread somewhere else where your sarcasm and outright ignorance will be welcomed with open arms.

OMG...

I was supposed to be perfect too. Any more perfect Id have been the firstborn son. No, I was daddys princess, so smart and so clever. Obediant, polite, never spoke until spoken too...then I went downhil, developed a sharp tongue and a decidedly un-pretty face, and my grades dropped to average...then, during my depression, they hardly existed. Im no longer daddy's princess. and my mum treats my sister like an only child, since I moved out. Its all a far cry from when I was the family gem, for not going out clubbing, or watching too much TV...now that honour goes to my overly-qualified cousin, who got ahead of me when it turned out she was much, much prettier....

Maybe theres some sort of trend going on here.

I hope you're here for many years to come. I dont know you, but Id be sad at the loss of another person so similar to myself.
Trend? Possibly. I think everything has to repeat its self more than just a few times. Makes you feel like you're not as alone.

Sometimes I enjoy being Satan.

I'm not 'fake caring', you know like putting on a righteous face for forums.

I cant believe the attitudes of some people...I know in my frame of mind, of someone had said 'Oh for gods sake, stop going on about how miserable you are-just fucking top yourself and leave us in peace!' or words to that effect, Id have been so gutted I might have done the act after all...there were times when I was so close....

Its shit, feeling like you're the only person in your universe, like everyone else somehow has figured out the secrets of life and left you in the dark a bit.

Im glad to see you're still here, after all the comments.

And you're right-what goes around comes around. Ive noticed that a lot lately....

I think the more sarcastic people on this forum were shocked at your retaliation to their unjust comments-and so they should be. I think they pictured you as a limp peice of a wet flannel, unable to even feed itself, that just wanted to lie down and die. That is NOT who you are.

Feel free to insult them back. Its your life they are insulting, and the more passionately you defend it, the more you will come to connect with it.

(Im twenty-two, have been depressed since age sixteen. Period of suicidal tendancies lasted for about five years, and in truth I dont think they will ever completely go away...)

I'm not 'fake caring', you know like putting on a righteous face for forums.

I cant believe the attitudes of some people...I know in my frame of mind, of someone had said 'Oh for gods sake, stop going on about how miserable you are-just fucking top yourself and leave us in peace!' or words to that effect, Id have been so gutted I might have done the act after all...there were times when I was so close....

Its shit, feeling like you're the only person in your universe, like everyone else somehow has figured out the secrets of life and left you in the dark a bit.

Im glad to see you're still here, after all the comments.

And you're right-what goes around comes around. Ive noticed that a lot lately....

I think the more sarcastic people on this forum were shocked at your retaliation to their unjust comments-and so they should be. I think they pictured you as a limp peice of a wet flannel, unable to even feed itself, that just wanted to lie down and die. That is NOT who you are.

Feel free to insult them back. Its your life they are insulting, and the more passionately you defend it, the more you will come to connect with it.

(Im twenty-two, have been depressed since age sixteen. Period of suicidal tendancies lasted for about five years, and in truth I dont think they will ever completely go away...)
Really? Then I'm right on track. My first suicide attempt was 3 years ago.

And when I'm depressed like this I tend to get pissed off at everything.

I'm a deathseeker who likes to fight back. I mean, if someone kills me, then it means that the person who killed me is a sicko. But If I kill myself, then it means that I had some problems.

Still it's taboo.

*yawn* I think I'm going to hit the hay for now.

SO STOP COMPLAINING IF I'M GONE!

Just because I don't live on the internet waiting with bated breath your response doesn't mean I've just killed myself.

I'm out of tylenol anyway.

Screw Tylenol, go for the "Cadbury Surprise" followed by head-butting the sidewalk. It could be an interesting challenge to keep the cream eggs from falling out in the process.

Actually I read it'd be very difficult to go straight down the vein, and multiple times across the street would be easier

Not if you got one of those old school paper slicers. Those things will take off an arm with no effort. They are like a gullotine.

I've never seen a paper slicer that can even cut a pencil in half. I've tried multiple times with every slicer I've ever used.
Furthermore, "through the jugular" is clearly the correct cut. Whoever started the whole wrist thing is a dumbass.

*yawn* I think I'm going to hit the hay for now.

SO STOP COMPLAINING IF I'M GONE!

Just because I don't live on the internet waiting with bated breath your response doesn't mean I've just killed myself.

I'm out of tylenol anyway.

I wasnt the tablet type, I was the stabby type. I'd have drowned myself as dorwning struck me as beautiful and poetic...but I have a phobia of deep water and freeze up whenever I can't see to the bottom, so that ruled that eacape out....
And although those death wishes havnt completely gone, it doesn mean they are constantly there...im not sure how to put it, exactly. Im not constantly wanting to die, but theres times when I think about it in a casual sort of way. I think it might be part of some road to recovery, I dont know. Ive never sought help for it, I just tried to help myself. Failed, mostly, but Im still here so I cant have done too badly.
Im still depressed, ANGRY depressed, and sometimes I feel like this is it, this is the end...but it never is. Get some sleep, have a weird or bizarre dream to think over tomorrow, and take a few deep breaths when you get out of bed, and just sit still for a bit, thinking....that used to help me start off to a calm morning..even inf the evenings were a fucking disaster:)

Goodnight

You people are fucking pathetic. It's OK to be an asshole if you know when to stop. Why would you tell someone to kill themselves? You are the lowest of the low. There is dog shit on my boots outside, and I rate it higher on the scale of "things that have my respect" than you.

To Silence and Nothing, all I can say is not to give up hope. You can tell yourself that you've got nothing to live for, but it's a lie. The fact that you are still here is one reason it's a lie. Just hang in there. It will get better. Just when everything seems like it can't get any worse, It stops getting worse.

One technique I've taught myself is not to look at the big picture. Take the small things as good. A sunset, a walk, talking with friends, listening to music, or doing anything else that makes you feel happy (or at least not unhappy).

I've never seen a paper slicer that can even cut a pencil in half. I've tried multiple times with every slicer I've ever used.
Furthermore, "through the jugular" is clearly the correct cut. Whoever started the whole wrist thing is a dumbass.

Not necessarily. Pressure on your jugular makes you gag. Unless you enjoy the feeling of strangulation, and possibly drowning as your own blood fills your lungs, stomach etc, wrists are the more popular choice.

Not being cynical-just my two cents, for what they're worth.

Some people just suck at slitting their own throats.

I've never seen a paper slicer that can even cut a pencil in half. I've tried multiple times with every slicer I've ever used.


Well, how do you explain how this one guy that is friends with my parents that cut off half his middle finger with one?

Sorcery.

That or his middle finger sucked.

it's called actually having a sharp blade on it. Hardly anyone sharpens the blade on it, he is one of the people who does sharpen it. My parents sharpen the blade on the one that had before they gave it away to Goodwill.

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?
You are well within your rights to end your own life if you see fit. They can’t arrest you once you’re dead.

Sure gotta have that sharp blade to cut that paper. Let me tell ya... What was he using it for? Cardboard?

And don't say multiple papers, because my crappy-unable-to-sever-a-pencil paper slicer can cut like 10 sheets at a time.

Hi! I'm new here. I'm the dictatorship of Makiman. I think that suicide is very selfish, think about the poor guy that is going to find you. Does everyone else deserve to bear your loss? Or do you not care? If not you sould see a specialtist.

No idea. I didn't ask, I just saw what was left of the finger and overheard them talking about it.

I have some experience with serious injuries that involve sharp metal objects. I sliced my finger open on my utility knife.

Hi! I'm new here. I'm the dictatorship of Makiman. I think that suicide is very selfish, think about the poor guy that is going to find you. Does everyone else deserve to bear your loss? Or do you not care? If not you sould see a specialtist.
That's why I suggested the Cadbury Surprise.
Your family may hate the suicide, but everyone loves cadbury cream eggs! Why disappoint your loved ones with plain old boring eyes, when you can surprise them with chocolate instead?! Try to do it around easter. The kids will have hours of fun trying to find the last two treats.

Personally, I think everyone who wants to kill themselves should. And what's more, they should leave the rest of us the frag out of it. Failed suicide is a desperate reach for attention. Successful suicide is someone finally having the balls to make something of their pathetic existance. Which would you rather?

I know a guy that had his middle finger bitten off by a horse.

Well, Silence and Nothing is certainly getting the attention she wants. She has all kinds of people to read her suicide note, all kinds of people who are offering her understading and people to talk to, and so many saying stuff to her and expressing interest in her life that she can yell at them and pretend that she wasn't striving for attention all along.

Suiside is a pathetic means of gaining attention. anyone how tries has problems.

I hate paper cuts

Suiside is a pathetic means of gaining attention. anyone how tries has problems.

What's pathetic is your spelling and grammer.

Is it really to gain attention? When I tried to kill myself I didn't tell anyone for years, but I just don't care about it anymore. We all have problems and seperate ways of dealing with them and berrating another's method only disguises your own issues.

What's pathetic is your spelling and grammer.

Is it really to gain attention? When I tried to kill myself I didn't tell anyone for years, but I just don't care about it anymore. We all have problems and seperate ways of dealing with them and berrating another's method only disguises your own issues.
I think your problems are or were bigger than mine.
If you don't care, then why talk about it?

I think your problems are or were bigger than mine

Maybe but at least I can admit them. Any problems I had are buried and dead. All I offer is help to those who seek it because I know times get rough and sometimes life doesn't seem worth leaving. As opposed to calling someone pathetic for wanting to die.

If you don't care then why talk about it?

Because it's relevent to the subject matter. Having overcome a simliar situation I feel it necessary to lend support.

Maybe but at least I can admit them. Any problems I had are buried and dead. All I offer is help to those who seek it because I know times get rough and sometimes life doesn't seem worth leaving. As opposed to calling someone pathetic for wanting to die.



Because it's relevent to the subject matter. Having overcome a simliar situation I feel it necessary to lend support.
All I remmember reading was you talking about you attempting suicide, and you never offered anything.

I hate paper cuts

I hate you.

What I mean is that the people that attempt suicide for attention are pathetic, not those who are serious like you claim to be.

All I remmember reading was you talking about you attempting suicide, and you never offered anything.

Then you really weren't paying attention at all. I went into a long conclusion that most suicide is caused by bouts with clinical depression that last only a few weeks and reoccure ever once in a while. I also said that I didn't give up and my life got better as do most people who attempt suicide.

Don't push your superiority onto other people because you never though of killing yourself. Living a horrible life or suffering from depression is by no means pathetic. Only the people who think themselves better are.

What I mean is that the people that attempt suicide for attention are pathetic, not those who are serious like you claim to be.

A big misnomer is that people attempt suicide do so for attention. Running a blade down your wrists, hanging yourself, drinking poison, overdosing, etc. Most people don't go into such acts thinking "When I get up people will so smother me with affection." There are much safer ways of becoming popular.

The motives behind suicide are vague at best. Usually it's a mental disorder, but in a rare occasion there's the asshole who says they tried to kill themselves when in reality they have tried no such thing. For this reason alone people shun those who fail at committing suicide rather than celebrate their survival.

Then you really weren't paying attention at all. I went into a long conclusion that most suicide is caused by bouts with clinical depression that last only a few weeks and reoccure ever once in a while. I also said that I didn't give up and my life got better as do most people who attempt suicide.

Don't push your superiority onto other people because you never though of killing yourself. Living a horrible life or suffering from depression is by no means pathetic. Only the people who think themselves better are.
You mis-understand. I mean those people that pose as being suicidal are pathetic.

You mis-understand. I mean those people that pose as being suicidal are pathetic.

Agreed, but it felt like you suggested the author as well as other people in the thread were doing so. I'll accept that I misunderstood your message, and I apologize. It's just a sensitive topic for me I guess.

I understand. A friend of mine had troubles with attempting suicide. She ended up becoming home-schooled and I have heard that she is doing better through my friend Josh.

hello:)

hello:confused:

hello:(

hello:)

Hiya! :D

are you there?:mad: :confused: :(

Is your first name by chance Sarina?:)

Is your first name by chance Sarina?:)

Wow, not even close lol.

You just sound like that someone I was talking or writing adout earlier.:D

You just sound like that someone I was tlking or writing adout earlier.:D

That's slightly odd. The last person I talked to was drowning his depression in a bowl of weed and shots of rum. He's knocked out right now but still talking in his sleep lol.

*doesn't smoke btw

I think smoking is disgusting.:gundge:

I think smoking is disgusting.:gundge:

Agreed and being an asthmatic I find additionally offensive, because yeah that little divider in a restuarant really seperates smokers from non smokers.

Bah, smokers are all suicidal in a way. They're just doing it the long, drawn out, and painful way ;)

Agreed. 13 people in my family have died due to cancer caused by smoking and 5 are well on their way.:(

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

I personally know several people who do this kind of shit on a regular basis.
Its a pathetic cry for attention.

All you want is someone to listen to you, and if you dont get it, you pull stunts like this to get it.
Thats why you post about it to random people on the internet.

What the hell kind of worthy advice can you possibly expect from faceless retards like myself, and the rest of the anonymous people on this forum?
Nothing.

If you really feel like you deserve to die, then take your ass to a professional and get some help.
Otherwise...if you insist upon performing such stunts, try a little harder next time, and spare your loved ones the pain of seeing you self-destruct.

You have just as much right to exist as any other fool on this planet.

I personally know several people who do this kind of shit on a regular basis.
Its a pathetic cry for attention.

All you want is someone to listen to you, and if you dont get it, you pull stunts like this to get it.
Thats why you post about it to random people on the internet.

What the hell kind of worthy advice can you possibly expect from faceless retards like myself, and the rest of the anonymous people on this forum?
Nothing.

If you really feel like you deserve to die, then take your ass to a professional and get some help.
Otherwise...if you insist upon performing such stunts, try a little harder next time, and spare your loved ones the pain of seeing you self-destruct.

You have just as much right to exist as any other fool on this planet.

So you would rather see a life perish than to concern yourself with it, because after all, I guess it isn't our problem.

I personally know several people who do this kind of shit on a regular basis.
Its a pathetic cry for attention.

All you want is someone to listen to you, and if you dont get it, you pull stunts like this to get it.
Thats why you post about it to random people on the internet.

What the hell kind of worthy advice can you possibly expect from faceless retards like myself, and the rest of the anonymous people on this forum?
Nothing.

If you really feel like you deserve to die, then take your ass to a professional and get some help.
Otherwise...if you insist upon performing such stunts, try a little harder next time, and spare your loved ones the pain of seeing you self-destruct.

You have just as much right to exist as any other fool on this planet.
Why do you bother replying if you think of it in such low esteam?:confused:

I personally know several people who do this kind of shit on a regular basis.
Its a pathetic cry for attention.

All you want is someone to listen to you, and if you dont get it, you pull stunts like this to get it.
Thats why you post about it to random people on the internet.

What the hell kind of worthy advice can you possibly expect from faceless retards like myself, and the rest of the anonymous people on this forum?
Nothing.

If you really feel like you deserve to die, then take your ass to a professional and get some help.
Otherwise...if you insist upon performing such stunts, try a little harder next time, and spare your loved ones the pain of seeing you self-destruct.

You have just as much right to exist as any other fool on this planet.
It's selfish grunts like you that inhibbit this world from going anywhere.:mad:

hello is anyone there:confused: :(

hello is anyone there:confused: :(

This is a forum, not a chatroom ;) Replies may take a while - and will most likely only come if you actually post something people can reply to. Like a comment on the topic of this thread.

This is a forum, not a chatroom ;) Replies may take a while - and will most likely only come if you actually post something people can reply to. Like a comment on the topic of this thread.
If you were paying attention, I have been trying to get a response out of someone I had just insulted.:mp5:

If you were paying attention, I have been trying to get a response out of someone I had just insulted.:mp5:

That's not what forums are about though.

You post something that is powerful and moving and people will respond. If you try to flamebait a veteran more than likely you'll be ignored.

God my nation is old :(

Does a bull dozer count:cool:

It's selfish grunts like you that inhibbit this world from going anywhere.:mad:


Whos being selfish?

Posting this kind of thing, is purely and simply...a cry for attention.
Why else would anyone do it?
Certainly, little to no good will be obtained by this person from anything anyone of us will post.

So, then... if we know that it is indeed such a cry, then we can also be sure its false in nature.
No one who is truly suicidal bothers to ask people they dont know for such advice, on a web forum.

Why did I bother to post?

When I see crap, I cant help but speak out.

Suicide is the most selfish act of all, not calling out some gothy-emo drama.

Does a bull dozer count:cool:

Metaphorically yes

Literally...if you can get one in here then I guess *shrugs*

When I see crap, I cant help but speak out.



Because you above all others have been given the ability to judge a poster's true intent. I feel safe.

Personally I think you're just an angry person lashing out against easy targets. We also agreed that everything a human does is in some way selfish, the word itself has become bastardized into being a grand sin.

Whos being selfish?

Posting this kind of thing, is purely and simply...a cry for attention.
Why else would anyone do it?
Certainly, little to no good will be obtained by this person from anything anyone of us will post.

So, then... if we know that it is indeed such a cry, then we can also be sure its false in nature.
No one who is truly suicidal bothers to ask people they dont know for such advice, on a web forum.

Why did I bother to post?

When I see crap, I cant help but speak out.

Suicide is the most selfish act of all, not calling out some gothy-emo drama.
Why are you here? If you don't like the thread move on. If you can't contain yourself then try waring a gag or a muzzle.

Because you above all others have been given the ability to judge a poster's true intent. I feel safe.

No, Im not a moral authority, nor the Amazing Kreskin.
However, Ive dealt with this very thing, many times.
I personally, have been called by a friend, who decided to take too many pills, that he knew wouldnt kill him, only make him sick enough to be convincing.
I also have dealt with chronic depression from my early teens, and have seen near-suicidal depressions first hand, and while I cant make any kind of "diagnosis", Im a fair judge of character, especially when viewing the kind of displays like these.
Also, Ive been around this forum for a long while now, and have seen a few threads exactly like this one right here.

This isnt even original.

Personally I think you're just an angry person lashing out against easy targets. We also agreed that everything a human does is in some way selfish, the word itself has become bastardized into being a grand sin.

If attempting suicide, and puttting ones loved ones and family through the kind of emotional stress that would surely come from such a stunt, doesnt make you a little angry, you probably have less compassion that I do.

You may notice in my first post, I rather bluntly, told the OP, he/she should seek help, if these feelings are genuine.

No, Im not a moral authority, nor the Amazing Kreskin.
However, Ive dealt with this very thing, many times.
I personally, have been called by a friend, who decided to take too many pills, that he knew wouldnt kill him, only make him sick enough to be convincing.
I also have dealt with chronic depression from my early teens, and have seen near-suicidal depressions first hand, and while I cant make any kind of "diagnosis", Im a fair judge of character, especially when viewing the kind of displays like these.
Also, Ive been around this forum for a long while now, and have seen a few threads exactly like this one right here.

This isnt even original.



If attempting suicide, and puttting ones loved ones and family through the kind of emotional stress that would surely come from such a stunt, doesnt make you a little angry, you probably have less compassion that I do.

You may notice in my first post, I rather bluntly, told the OP, he/she should seek help, if these feelings are genuine.
The person that attempted suicide is not here now ,( I think ) so you can go be Mr. Helpful in a mental hospital were people that have "dealt with this kind of thing many times" can truely make a difference.:sniper:

The person that attempted suicide is not here now ,( I think ) so you can go be Mr. Helpful in a mental hospital were people that have "dealt with this kind of thing many times" can truely make a difference.:sniper:


My point exactly....a political forum isnt the kind of place where one could get any kind of "help" either.

I'm reffering to you as Mr. helpful. now if you don't mind, it is late and I hear a rather comfertable bed calling my name.:)

Last night I tried to kill myself, but as you can see I failed.
I told one of my friends and he got angry, and I can understand why...it's just...I can't stop feeling like I deserve to die.
Especially since he's not the determining factor.
*sigh*
He then told me a story about how someone he knew killed themselves and I began to cry in public.
What am I going to do with me?

1st, don't kill yourself

2nd, talk to someone anyone... us if we're all you want to talk 2... you can tg me at "Sylli" if ya want:fluffle: