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Ahhhhhhhh - I am drowning in the number of emo freshmen in my high school this year. I swear, what is with them?! They're all seriously lacking in basic intelligence, while simultaneously going on about how "trendy" they are as they listen to their Fall Out Boy* and Hawthorne Heights* on their iPods. Not to mention one of them is short of stalking me. ^shudder^

Seriously, there is an unusually high trend that shows emo kids lacking intelligence at my school. There is a difference in people who list listen to emo bands and people who adopt the whole "emo" look. But once they get the whole emo look going on they start acting dumber and dumber.

*Note: Stereotypical emo bands being used to prove a point. Personally I don't like em but don't take offence to this, please.

I take it your a chav, to debate the right of emo's to exist to a chav is useless.
Emo's are hot as and being emo has got me noticed by girls this much more <-------->

I take it your a chav, to debate the right of emo's to exist to a chav is useless.
Emo's are hot as and being emo has got me noticed by girls this much more <-------->
A CHAV? Dude, I live in the 'states. I'm no chav and I'm not the 'stereotypical white trash' equivalent.'
I'm sorry, but a 'hot emo kid' is an oxymoron. And I think I know why being emo gets you noticed....

Is "whiney" an emotion?

emo is a trend. a fashion. just like everything else: chavism, the 'metalhead' look, 'indie look', trendy look... whatever it is, if you're following someone else (be they someone you know or someone famous like a musician) because you think its cool, then you're not being yourself and are just another in the long line of people following a trend.
the sad thing with most emos and goths are that they seem to think they're being so original and cool, when they are, like i say, just another typical goth/emo/stoner/metalhead/indie/trendie/jock/whatever

just do what the fuck you like and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. that, to me, is the way to buck the trends and be "cool" (though you might not be anything like what is fashionably 'cool')

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Dress up as a German tourist, get some yodeling blasting out of your stereo and stalk them right back.

Is "whiney" an emotion?
Emotion! = Emo.
They are for the most part, reaaaaaaly angsty. I'm just POed (yes there's a difference).
Listen to The Emo Song (emosong.ytmnd.com) for a better, if somewhat comedic, understanding of emo.

Being emo gets me noticed because i wait until chav dudes go "Duhuh, oh will you go out with me" to a hot emo girl.
and they go "..."
and walk away
then i go "Fuckin chavs."
DINGDINGDING we have a makeout session.:fluffle:

Being emo gets me noticed because i wait until chav dudes go "Duhuh, oh will you go out with me" to a hot emo girl.
and they go "..."
and walk away
then i go "Fuckin chavs."
DINGDINGDING we have a makeout session.:fluffle:
wow. thats, like, deep, man.


wales seems to be some kind of mecca for emos... i know, i lived there for 2 years

Is "whiney" an emotion?
It is if you're a teen chalked full of hormonal rage that has yet to be vented.

wow. thats, like, deep, man.


wales seems to be some kind of mecca for emos... i know, i lived there for 2 years

Its something in the water ;p hold on... i saw an emo outside :)
(runs)

Seriously, there is an unusually high trend that shows emo kids lacking intelligence at my school. There is a difference in people who list listen to emo bands and people who adopt the whole "emo" look. But once they get the whole emo look going on they start acting dumber and dumber.
http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/philips_emo.jpg
They don't look like this, do they?

I've never undertstood it... why would your taste in music dictate how you dress?

I, for one, am anti-emo. Those little bastards make me sick.
Being emo gets me noticed because i wait until chav dudes go "Duhuh, oh will you go out with me" to a hot emo girl.
and they go "..."
and walk away
then i go "Fuckin chavs."
DINGDINGDING we have a makeout session.:fluffle:
1.I can barely understand you.
2.I highly doubt this has ever actually occurred.
3.There is no such thing as a hot emo chick, unless you like scars and double chins.
4.I shudder for the future of Europe if emos are considered good looking by your youth.

time for this video again, methinks http://www.somethingdirectory.com/video/xtian/howtobe-emo.avi

doesn't seem to be working for me but hopefully it will for someone else... cos its funny IIRC

I take it your a chav, to debate the right of emo's to exist to a chav is useless.
Emo's are hot as and being emo has got me noticed by girls this much more <-------->

Just because someone doesn't like Emo kids doens't mean they're a chav - I myself am, if you will, a kinda indie-extreme metallar hybrid, and although I can get along (to an extent) with the way that Emo kids dress, I will NEVER get on with the music and the generally whiny theme that runs through them (even I wasn't that whiney when I had depression!).

Oh, and for the record, metallers are hot, and being metal has got me noticed by guys this much more ;):p

Emotion! = Emo.
They are for the most part, reaaaaaaly angsty. I'm just POed (yes there's a difference).
Listen to The Emo Song (emosong.ytmnd.com) for a better, if somewhat comedic, understanding of emo.
The emos song is teh 1337.

Personally I like emo, but maybe that is because it's not that special in Belgium (or because I don't know any freaks). The most emoguys I know are really hot and I listen to 'emobands' all the time. I like the music.

You don't get Emo? it will all be revealed to you in this video (in case you haven't seen it yet).

http://www.somethingdirectory.com/main_emo.htm

Personally I like emo, but maybe that is because it's not that special in Belgium (or because I don't know any freaks). The most emoguys I know are really hot and I listen to 'emobands' all the time. I like the music.
*shakes head sadly at Europe*

I, for one, am anti-emo. Those little bastards make me sick.

1.I can barely understand you.
2.I highly doubt this has ever actually occurred.
3.There is no such thing as a hot emo chick, unless you like scars and double chins.
4.I shudder for the future of Europe if emos are considered good looking by your youth.

1. Thats because im talking intelligently
2. This occured twice, once with my ex and once with my gf.
3. I hate you, i could show you some pictures that would make you go "...EMOROCK!"
4. I shudder to think of the future of America where they vote bush into government and DONT think emos are hot.
Goths rock too

hahaha, the plural of emo is emoes:D

Seriously, these emo kids, They don't really bother me, just the fact that they try to act cool by coming to my local squathouse, wearing a lot of fancy clothes and expensive stuff, but hey as long as they don't get in my mosh, I'm fine:p

EDIT: I'm really trying to be understanding and open-minded towards them (I'm a punk after all), but they just seem so selfish...

I for one don't bother with emo. If you want emotional music, try the Romantic era classical. They beat emo (or pretty much any pop music for that matter) in so many ways it's not even funny.

If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!
If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!
If you're Emo and you know it,
And a really shitty poet,
If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!

If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!
If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!
If you're Emo and you know it,
And a really shitty poet,
If you're Emo and you know it slit your wrists!

(Whaps round head)
Idiota! I know 3 people who've done it and none were emo's!

*shakes head sadly at Europe*
Ok I just heard the emo song and the emoguys I know are not that freaky. They are just sexy (and not gay)...maybe they're not the real American emo's :rolleyes:

Is emo evidence for the inexistance of freewill and individuality in the human race? I really don't understand people who are overtly emo or punk or goth.. And what the hell is wiith them extra tight jeans!? Think of the children! The unborn progeny you're killing!

Ok I just heard the emo song and the emoguys I know are not that freaky. They are just sexy (and not gay)...maybe they're not the real American emo's :rolleyes:

We are a British emo :)
Were hot :)
We have dark hair and pale skin :)
We smile at chavs and think "...i hope they never vote"
and the real hardcores go "...Emo's vote for me, i'll burn the fuckers."
We are punk
We are cool
we are EMO! :D

Is emo evidence for the inexistance of freewill and individuality in the human race? I really don't understand people who are overtly emo or punk or goth.. And what the hell is wiith them extra tight jeans!? Think of the children! The unborn progeny you're killing!

On the other hand, it means they won't reproduce, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

On the other hand, it means they won't reproduce, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

So youd prefer the Chavs? :(
I see. well clearly you need to be included in the list:
Chavs
Chavs families
Chavs friends
People who defend chavs

Emo? Chav? Are they like the greasers and the soc's from West Side Story.

So youd prefer the Chavs? :(
I see. well clearly you need to be included in the list:
Chavs
Chavs families
Chavs friends
People who defend chavs

I didn't say that. I don't even know what "chavs" are, though I'm pretty sure I'd rather they didn't reproduce either.

We are a British emo :)
Were hot :)
We have dark hair and pale skin :)
We smile at chavs and think "...i hope they never vote"
and the real hardcores go "...Emo's vote for me, i'll burn the fuckers."
We are punk
We are cool
we are EMO! :D
You're britsh. You're not hot, you're damp and chilly.
Punk doesn't exist.
Cool is not something you listen to or wear.

Is emo evidence for the inexistance of freewill and individuality in the human race? I really don't understand people who are overtly emo or punk or goth.. And what the hell is wiith them extra tight jeans!? Think of the children! The unborn progeny you're killing!

Well, goth or emo I don't know about, as for punks: They just like punk music, most of them are anarchists too, and the themes in punk music are rebellion, fighting the system, solidarity etc.. that's the kind of values also appreciated by anarchists.
Punk is a reaction to the blind following of trends and goths and emoes are taking over aspects of that look (wich was originally meant to shock, but I think it is a but outdated(well, not considering some ESPECIALLY cool ones)) and so, the y are exactly what punk is reacting to.

You're britsh. You're not hot, you're damp and chilly.
Punk doesn't exist.
Cool is not something you listen to or wear.

(grins)
Lets keep them thinking that, right kids?
I may not be hot, although several people say contrary, but i know my GF is. she is emo!
My ex is. Emo!
My exex is Emo!
(repeat 11 times.)
Actually i think my Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex was gothic.
But hey :)

1. Thats because im talking intelligently
2. This occured twice, once with my ex and once with my gf.
3. I hate you, i could show you some pictures that would make you go "...EMOROCK!"
4. I shudder to think of the future of America where they vote bush into government and DONT think emos are hot.
Goths rock too
1. Please, your posts are on level with a ten year old's. Must be overexposure to nail polish.
2. When your ex broke up with you did she say, "I already have a pusy, I don't need another one"?
3. I sincerely doubt that.
4. Barely 25% of the population voted for Bush and emos are "one step below tranvestite." If you're cool with that, whatever, but the vast majority aren't.

I have to side with Pure Metal's first post.

What the hell is a chav?

So youd prefer the Chavs? :(
I see. well clearly you need to be included in the list:
Chavs
Chavs families
Chavs friends
People who defend chavs
Chavs are bloody brilliant! Oh sure, a lot of them are ignorant, violent, thieving little fuckers but god do they breed! You'll be sterile with those jeans and when you're old who'll be paying you're pension? We've an aging population and chavs are the solution!

Question: I know what emoes are, but what are 'chavs'?

The plural of "emo" is "emi", like how the plural of "concerto" is "concerti".

(grins)
Lets keep them thinking that, right kids?
I may not be hot, although several people say contrary, but i know my GF is. she is emo!
My ex is. Emo!
My exex is Emo!
(repeat 11 times.)
Actually i think my Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex was gothic.
But hey :)

My, you're fond of pointless line breaks. And obviously not fond of proper punctuation, capitalization, spelling, grammar, etc. You're not making a good showing for the Emo set.

*whiney voice*
i'm emo
i cut myself
and listen to hawthorne heights
on my video ipod
my life is horrible
i'll wear all black
cause i'm emo
WHY don't you understand me?
(i just blend in, that's why)
(because being emo aint being different)

I dont do nail polish.
If you want the pictures i need your MSN
On par with a Ten year olds. Nice.
Your attacks upon my intellect are indubitably due to fail due to the fact i can use big and licentious words noone can understand nor coagulate. :)

(grins)
Lets keep them thinking that, right kids?
I may not be hot, although several people say contrary, but i know my GF is. she is emo!
My ex is. Emo!
My exex is Emo!
(repeat 11 times.)
Actually i think my Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex-Ex was gothic.
But hey :)
"Girls keep breaking up with me, they say, I already have a pussy, I don't need another one.":D

The plural of "emo" is "emi", like how the plural of "concerto" is "concerti".


I prefer emoes:D
oh, and since when is emo an italian word?

I have to side with Pure Metal's first post.

What the hell is a chav?
thank you :)

and chavs: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Chav

I dont do nail polish.
If you want the pictures i need your MSN
On par with a Ten year olds. Nice.
Your attacks upon my intellect are indubitably due to fail due to the fact i can use big and licentious words noone can understand nor coagulate. :)

Well, that's your fault, since you neither spell nor use them correctly.

"Girls keep breaking up with me, they say, I already have a pussy, I don't need another one.":D

I dumped them :) Apart from my 7th ex.

I dont do nail polish.
If you want the pictures i need your MSN
On par with a Ten year olds. Nice.
Your attacks upon my intellect are indubitably due to fail due to the fact i can use big and licentious words noone can understand nor coagulate. :)
0_o
So you can't spell and you like to use big word incorrectly.

We are punk
We are cool
we are EMO! :D

Punk? I'm sorry but I recall punk as being 'BRING DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT!!!' and other general inserts of anarchy; whereas a summary of Emo is best found in a quote from an Emo gig I was made to attend whilst in Kingston...

"THIS NEXT SONG IS CALLED: WHY?????"

I dont do nail polish.
If you want the pictures i need your MSN
On par with a Ten year olds. Nice.
Your attacks upon my intellect are indubitably due to fail due to the fact i can use big and licentious words noone can understand nor coagulate. :)
I have a dictionary too.

I dumped them :) Apart from my 7th ex.

Riiiiiiiight...:rolleyes:

Well, that's your fault, since you neither spell nor use them correctly.

Niice.

And if I had to pick a side between Undelia and Europa alpha I would pick Undelia because he seems to be a little more witty.
:D

and chavs: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Chav

ooooh, those guys, I hate them.


(congratulations on your wiki entry :p)

Punk? I'm sorry but I recall punk as being 'BRING DOWN THE ESTABLISHMENT!!!' and other general inserts of anarchy; whereas a summary of Emo is best found in a quote from an Emo gig I was made to attend whilst in Kingston...

"THIS NEXT SONG IS CALLED: WHY?????"

We are a division of punk who's music is fuelled mainly by Emotion (Emo)
We are the arch-enemies of chavs and Sociopaths tend to stem from our ranks :)
We dont bother using grammar online because we see it as slowling up our ability to quick type and thus this slows down the whole socialising process
Emos ARE hot dammit.

I wish my lawn was Emo because then it would cut itself...

"Hey, do you know what the Emo mating call is?"
"No, what?"
*Sobs uncontrollably and pretends to slit wrists*

thank you :)

and chavs: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Chav

got the link to wiggers. that explains it.

i dont feel so stupid now.

Riiiiiiiight...:rolleyes:

to attempt to prove this is folley, so simply accept it or dont.

We are a division of punk who's music is fuelled mainly by Emotion (Emo)
We are the arch-enemies of chavs and Sociopaths tend to stem from our ranks :)
We dont bother using grammar online because we see it as slowling up our ability to quick type and thus this slows down the whole socialising process
Emos ARE hot dammit.

And by "socialising" you obviously mean "trolling."

We are a division of punk who's music is fuelled mainly by Emotion (Emo)


you are a perversion of punk damnit, you're stealing our image, stealers!
call the police!
(mehe)

We are a British emo :)
Were hot :)
We have dark hair and pale skin :)
We smile at chavs and think "...i hope they never vote"
and the real hardcores go "...Emo's vote for me, i'll burn the fuckers."
We are punk
We are cool
we are EMO! :D

Well, you fit at least one part of the emo song. Your a really shit poet.

And by "socialising" you obviously mean "trolling."

I mean on MSN :rolleyes: you cant exactly troll on Msn.

Well, you fit at least one part of the emo song. Your a really shit poet.

Any point to that other than to insult me? cos if not i'll report it as a bad post k?

0_o
So you can't spell and you like to use big word incorrectly.
Pseudointellectualism runs high among the goth/emo kids. Atleast in the midwest it does.

:rolleyes: Well we are more intelligent than chavs, and most Townies.
They hold the majority so yay :)

Pseudointellectualism runs high among the goth/emo kids. Atleast in the midwest it does.
What you trying saying about us Pseudointellectualists?

What you trying saying about us Pseudointellectualists?
Well if you just called yourself a pseudointellectual. I guess you know.

Well if you just called yourself a pseudointellectual. I guess you know.

Greaaat, please no more insults to anyone. Im sick of people using them to aid there arguement.

I mean on MSN :rolleyes: you cant exactly troll on Msn.

This isn't MSN. You have no excuse.

Any point to that other than to insult me? cos if not i'll report it as a bad post k?

That wasn't really an insult. I was just stating a fact, your a shit poet.

This isn't MSN. You have no excuse.

How exactly am i trolling?

Greaaat, please no more insults to anyone. Im sick of people using them to aid there arguement.

Probably because you're the one getting all the (well-deserved) mocks.

If you don't want to be insulted, then make an effort to at least pretend to have a brain.:p

Greaaat, please no more insults to anyone. Im sick of people using them to aid there arguement.
Like when you attacked the american public for electing Bush. Once you hold yourself to your own standards then I'll adhere to them as well.

That wasn't really an insult. I was just stating a fact, your a shit poet.

Its not a poem and you know it, your just bandwagoning.
So im gonna report you for insulting me needlessly.

Greaaat, please no more insults to anyone. Im sick of people using them to aid there arguement.

You! Sense of humor! Find one!

You're measuring dicks over fashion.

"Like OMG, Emo iz so totally h0t!!!!!11elevendyone!!!"
"No its not, its st00pid and gay!"
"No, ur st00pid!"
"No u!"
"Nuh uh!"
"Yah huh!"
"Yah, wel, if u think that u must be a chav!"
*bitchnmoan*
*bitchnmoan*
*bitchnmoan*
*bitchnmoan*
*insert bad poetry*
*bitchnmoan*
*bitchnmoan*
*insert counter bad poetry*
"Oh yeah? Well I'm telling the teacher!"
"Not unless I tell her first"

Like when you attacked the american public for electing Bush. Once you hold yourself to your own standards then I'll adhere to them as well.

Personal attacks are different to Generalisation.

Its not a poem and you know it, your just bandwagoning.
So im gonna report you for insulting me needlessly.

...and by "report you" you mean "tattle on you like a spoiled kintergarden girl."

Its not a poem and you know it, your just bandwagoning.
So im gonna report you for insulting me needlessly.

It blantently was a poem. And stop insulting bandwaggoners!! Or i'll report you.

emos are just the trend of the week. they'll come and they'll go. it might take a few years, but they wont last.
what i dont get is why people want to act depressed and crap like that? how can you be happy when you try to be depressed? personally i'm a metalhead and if you dont like, too bad. you can kiss my ass. i dress the way i want and not by someone else's rules. i'm not some idiot like a stereotypical metalhead, because yet again the stereotypes are wrong. none of my friends are like that at all. unintelligent and ignorant people bother me, metalhead or not.
my philosophy is this:
if you like the music, listen to it
if you want to wear it, wear it.
if you want to be a conforming idiot, do so.
but know that what you do and who you are are two different things. find you you really are, find what you really like, and live your life accordingly. otherwise you just live wishing you were some famous person that you never will be, or you try to fit in to make friends but because you look just like everyone else, no one notices you. So fuck trends, be yourself, and dont take shit from people trying to tell you who to be.

...and by "report you" you mean "tattle on you like a spoiled kintergarden girl."

(poke) You have 95 posts so your new and i wont eat you :) have a cookie.

Personal attacks are different to Generalisation.
So when I say that all emokids are pseudointellectuals that is OK?

It blantently was a poem. And stop insulting bandwaggoners!! Or i'll report you.

State how it was a poem please. find one rhyme or couplet or shut up :)

So when I say that all emokids are pseudointellectuals that is OK?

Yes.

:rolleyes: Well we are more intelligent than chavs, and most Townies.
They hold the majority so yay :)
The whole chav thing is a symptom of percieved low social mobility, not too brilliant education and terrible parenting. You can say what you want about chavs but intelligenve isn't the same as knowing stuff. An intelligent chav may seem like an oxymoron but they really ain't any dumber than the average person. It's true that chavs are adverse to education but it's mostly because of social pressure to fit in to a culture where they want to learn stuff is scorned.

Yes.
So your saying that my first post wasn't an attack and then me agreeing with what Zero Six Three said was an attack?

Never really noticed the whole emo thing, I went to college and the next thing I know there's all these kids with black hair in their eyes and ipods listening to music they think is metal (HIM mainly =/) and thinking it's really cool. To be honest I don't see what all the fuss is about, I am just me, I don't follow any set style. Sure I have long hair and wear a long leather trenchcoat, but that's just because it keeps me warm in the winter and one day I just decided I couldn't be bothered with the barbers anymore (saved me a bomb =)).

The only problem I have with them is that EMO bands keep on booking the practice rooms and they can't sing very well, it's not that great. Especially when you want to play some jazz or metal and they have stolen all the amps.

:mp5: wat Im a metalhead and I don't get the "emoism" thing I mean I think they just hurt themselves for attention!

Well if you just called yourself a pseudointellectual. I guess you know.
I don't know! I'm only nearly smart!

The whole chav thing is a symptom of percieved low social mobility, not too brilliant education and terrible parenting. You can say what you want about chavs but intelligenve isn't the same as knowing stuff. An intelligent chav may seem like an oxymoron but they really ain't any dumber than the average person. It's true that chavs are adverse to education but it's mostly because of social pressure to fit in to a culture where they want to learn stuff is scorned.

Rubbish.
I point out to you my best friends parents. Clearly chavs, clearly lower class.
He is Emo.
i point out my parents, although not chavs, clearly lower class. K? We strived to get beyond the gutter of chavness so we are better because of it. Chavs simply dont TRY.

So your saying that my first post wasn't an attack and then me agreeing with what Zero Six Three said was an attack?

You called Zero Six Three as PseudoIntellectual and between the lines implied this is a bad thing.

emos are just the trend of the week. they'll come and they'll go. it might take a few years, but they wont last.
what i dont get is why people want to act depressed and crap like that? how can you be happy when you try to be depressed? personally i'm a metalhead and if you dont like, too bad. you can kiss my ass. i dress the way i want and not by someone else's rules. i'm not some idiot like a stereotypical metalhead, because yet again the stereotypes are wrong. none of my friends are like that at all. unintelligent and ignorant people bother me, metalhead or not.
my philosophy is this:
if you like the music, listen to it
if you want to wear it, wear it.
if you want to be a conforming idiot, do so.
but know that what you do and who you are are two different things. find you you really are, find what you really like, and live your life accordingly. otherwise you just live wishing you were some famous person that you never will be, or you try to fit in to make friends but because you look just like everyone else, no one notices you. So fuck trends, be yourself, and dont take shit from people trying to tell you who to be.
Amen to that!

State how it was a poem please. find one rhyme or couplet or shut up :)

po·em ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pm)
n.
A verbal composition designed to convey experiences, ideas, or emotions in a vivid and imaginative way, characterized by the use of language chosen for its sound and suggestive power.
A composition in verse rather than in prose.
A literary composition written with an intensity or beauty of language more characteristic of poetry than of prose.
A creation, object, or experience having beauty suggestive of poetry

Your poem fits this vaguely, and in a fairly poor way. Thus making a shitty poem. And don't tell me to shut up, or I'm going to tell!

You called Zero Six Three as PseudoIntellectual and between the lines implied this is a bad thing.
Actually Zero Six Three called themself a pseudointellectual. An important note.

your right,these emos arnt intelligent at all to busy about themselves they must be segregated.

(poke) You have 95 posts so your new and i wont eat you :) have a cookie.

Is this like when a dog loses a fight to another dog and then displays submissive behavior in an attempt to ingratiate itself and avoid getting its tail kicked again? Because that's sure what it looks like...:rolleyes:

po·em ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pm)
n.
A verbal composition designed to convey experiences, ideas, or emotions in a vivid and imaginative way, characterized by the use of language chosen for its sound and suggestive power.
A composition in verse rather than in prose.
A literary composition written with an intensity or beauty of language more characteristic of poetry than of prose.
A creation, object, or experience having beauty suggestive of poetry

Your poem fits this vaguely, and in a fairly poor way. Thus making a shitty poem. And don't tell me to shut up, or I'm going to tell!

Wow thats a bad poem :rolleyes: thats really bad your a crap poet (note sarcasm.)

Is this like when a dog loses a fight to another dog and then displays submissive behavior in an attempt to ingratiate itself and avoid getting its tail kicked again? Because that's sure what it looks like...:rolleyes:

Not really? Is this trolling what your doing? I think so.
"Duhuh...hes losing see, hes using methods that dogs do."
...indeed.

You called Zero Six Three as PseudoIntellectual and between the lines implied this is a bad thing.
Actually I called myself a pseudointellect...

Rubbish.
I point out to you my best friends parents. Clearly chavs, clearly lower class.
He is Emo.
i point out my parents, although not chavs, clearly lower class. K? We strived to get beyond the gutter of chavness so we are better because of it. Chavs simply dont TRY.

eh? I'm confused. I'm trying to get my head around why you think you are better than everyone else because you wear certain clothing and listen to certain music.

Why do you feel the need to stick to a certain stereotype and call it "cool"? I personally listen to music I find I can relate to or has a lot of power and soul. I like a lot of Classic Rock, Jazz, Prog Rock, Metal, Blues, Folk, Punk (specifically 70s and 80s punk, can't stand the new punk), I even like some rap (although only eminem, he writes meaningfull lyrics).

Your not better than anyone else just because you call yourself "Emo". Maybe you should free yourself from the stereotype and actually explore and develope your own personality rather than imitating other people's.

Wow thats a bad poem :rolleyes: thats really bad your a crap poet (note sarcasm.)

Er...indeed...touche! (note sarcasm)

eh? I'm confused. I'm trying to get my head around why you think you are better than everyone else because you wear certain clothing and listen to certain music.

Why do you feel the need to stick to a certain stereotype and call it "cool"? I personally listen to music I find I can relate to or has a lot of power and soul. I like a lot of Classic Rock, Jazz, Prog Rock, Metal, Blues, Folk, Punk (specifically 70s and 80s punk, can't stand the new punk), I even like some rap (although only eminem, he writes meaningfull lyrics).

Your not better than anyone else just because you call yourself "Emo". Maybe you should free yourself from the stereotype and actually explore and develope your own personality rather than imitating other people's.

im not better than everyone else. just chavs.
In fact its my opinion im probobly a lot worse than lots of people. Morally.

I have decided not to read all the posts, due to the fact there were 81 when I decided to post, so sorry if there is any repeditiveness in this post. I very much agree with the subject. The "swarm" of "emo" people. Speaking of emo as the people who dress nearly gothic, and listen to the whiney music on mtv that is. All they do is whine, complain, and get under my skin in the worst way.

God, I'm sick of this. Learn to write coherently Europa alpha. As is, you just aren't worth my time.

Actually I called myself a pseudointellect...
Well a person could have a pseudointellect but be one...

Er...indeed...touche! (note sarcasm)

... dear lord... i mean i may be a Noob but this guy is... wow.

Stop Bandwaggoning and give me some evidence of how emo is bad :)
Stop badmouthing me cos its trolling see and thats not good.
Actually use some ideas you come up with instead of saying "Europa alpha is wrong."
"No im not?"
"Yeh, your crap!
... K?

i dont mean to sound like a total idiot.... i know what emo is but whats a chav?

Think a cross between a wild dog and an idiot.

Haha emo...

People who base their entire lives drowning in the pain of their mistakes and failures. Personally I let my anger and pride sustain me.

uhhh what makes a person a chav lol

... dear lord... i mean i may be a Noob but this guy is... wow.

Stop Bandwaggoning and give me some evidence of how emo is bad :)
Stop badmouthing me cos its trolling see and thats not good.
Actually use some ideas you come up with instead of saying "Europa alpha is wrong."
"No im not?"
"Yeh, your crap!
... K?
No. This is entertaining me damnit. And I think your proving why emos are bad etc...writing that shit poem etc..

... dear lord... i mean i may be a Noob but this guy is... wow.

Stop Bandwaggoning and give me some evidence of how emo is bad :)
Stop badmouthing me cos its trolling see and thats not good.
Actually use some ideas you come up with instead of saying "Europa alpha is wrong."
"No im not?"
"Yeh, your crap!
... K?

Well...since most of the people posting here are saying that you're wrong in some way, then you probably are. Majority rules and all that.

Haha emo...

People who base their entire lives drowning in the pain of their mistakes and failures. Personally I let my anger and pride sustain me.

Yes because stereotypes are ALL true :rolleyes: Americans are stupid and British are posh, French are cowardly and Germans are violent.
Nice.
Dont use stereotypes to form an arguement, k?

uhhh what makes a person a chav lol

probobly a cross between Parenting and the Ozone layer :p

Rubbish.
I point out to you my best friends parents. Clearly chavs, clearly lower class.
He is Emo.
i point out my parents, although not chavs, clearly lower class. K? We strived to get beyond the gutter of chavness so we are better because of it. Chavs simply dont TRY.
I liked you up until now. You're not better. You're just another melodramatic snob. There are two classes in this world. Those with class and those without. You're here, with me and the chavs, without.

Well...since most of the people posting here are saying that you're wrong in some way, then you probably are. Majority rules and all that.

The majority is always right? Ok then :) I cant think of a single time the majority has been wrong :) none whatsoever.
OH WAIT
Hitler and Nazi Germany
Earth is Flat
God Exists
Bolshevik Revolution
Imperialism
Anti-Gay rights
Want any more?

I have one question for all you emo's out there, I have one question. Why? that is all.

As for you emo's in wales, please stay there, you will give another good reason not to go to wales on top of all the other reasons you inbred mother fucking welsh wierdo's. No...... don't cry, be better to slash your wrists.

ASAP

Thank you!

I liked you up until now. You're not better. You're just another melodramatic snob. There are two classes in this world. Those with class and those without. You're here, with me and the chavs, without.

I pulled myself out of being a chav, any of them could do it if they wanted to.
They dont want to become better people, therefore they are bad, if a chav tried to become better but couldnt then they'd be equal with the rest of humanity.

The majority is always right? Ok then :) I cant think of a single time the majority has been wrong :) none whatsoever.
OH WAIT
Hitler and Nazi Germany
Earth is Flat
God Exists
Bolshevik Revolution
Imperialism
Anti-Gay rights
Want any more?
he didn't say majority is right, he said it rules. Huge difference.

Also, lets grow up a bit. Style and personality isn't so simple as "emo" or "chav" or whathaveyou. To lable yourself is to limit yourself. Listen to what you like, wear what you like, do what you like, but for gods sake, stop the damn pissing contest.

The majority is always right? Ok then :) I cant think of a single time the majority has been wrong :) none whatsoever.
OH WAIT
Hitler and Nazi Germany
Earth is Flat
God Exists
Bolshevik Revolution
Imperialism
Anti-Gay rights
Want any more?

True, but the majority isn't wrong about you being an arrogant twit, a dolt and a loser.

I pulled myself out of being a chav, any of them could do it if they wanted to.
They dont want to become better people, therefore they are bad, if a chav tried to become better but couldnt then they'd be equal with the rest of humanity.

So you're saying you traded one kind of stupidity for another. That's not trading up.

True, but the majority isn't wrong about you being an arrogant twit, a dolt and a loser.

Nice. Arrogant i'll accept. But why insult me honestly?

he didn't say majority is right, he said it rules. Huge difference.

I appreciate your vote of confidence, but...it's "she." ;)

So you're saying you traded one kind of stupidity for another. That's not trading up.

Why the insults? and DID i say that? you just like insulting people.

This is one big masturbatory thread. Most of you are just trying to define yourself by music and therefore debating who is better.

No offense, but most of you are still trying to discover music. You all are trying to boast that yours is superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any one construct piece of noise that is pleasing to just ONE person is music. You still all need to do some exploring. No matter what your preference is, it doesn't matter. I enjoy mostly extreme forms of metal (Doom, Death, Black, and Grind) along with ambient, soundscapes, some IDM, Noise, and avant-garde composers. It is all about preference and ENJOYING what you listen to. It doesn't matter as long as you know you will enjoy it forever.

I appreciate your vote of confidence, but...it's "she." ;)
oops...my bad *hands cookie to kape up for it*

Why the insults? and DID i say that? you just like insulting people.

Only people who richly deserve it.

I have one question for all you emo's out there, I have one question. Why? that is all.

As for you emo's in wales, please stay there, you will give another good reason not to go to wales on top of all the other reasons you inbred mother fucking welsh wierdo's. No...... don't cry, be better to slash your wrists.

ASAP

Thank you!

And I thought I was insulting..

This is one big masturbatory thread. Most of you are just trying to define yourself by music and therefore debating who is better.

No offense, but most of you are still trying to discover music. You all are trying to boast that yours is superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any one construct piece of noise that is pleasing to just ONE person is music. You still all need to do some exploring. No matter what your preference is, it doesn't matter. I enjoy mostly extreme forms of metal (Doom, Death, Black, and Grind) along with ambient, soundscapes, some IDM, Noise, and avant-garde composers. It is all about preference and ENJOYING what you listen to. It doesn't matter as long as you know you will enjoy it forever.

I like Emo music, Punk music, Goth music, Classical (Im ashamed!, Country (cries), Light rock, indi rock, heavy rock and Super heavy rock :D

This is one big masturbatory thread. Most of you are just trying to define yourself by music and therefore debating who is better.

No offense, but most of you are still trying to discover music. You all are trying to boast that yours is superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any one construct piece of noise that is pleasing to just ONE person is music. You still all need to do some exploring. No matter what your preference is, it doesn't matter. I enjoy mostly extreme forms of metal (Doom, Death, Black, and Grind) along with ambient, soundscapes, some IDM, Noise, and avant-garde composers. It is all about preference and ENJOYING what you listen to. It doesn't matter as long as you know you will enjoy it forever.

i like you already

I like Emo music, Punk music, Goth music, Classical (Im ashamed!, Country (cries), Light rock, indi rock, heavy rock and Super heavy rock :D


I like ALL genres, that listed was just what my preferences are. I mean to explore, not just by genre but as a whole. What punk bands? What "super heavy rock"?

Emo people are ABSOLUTLY NOT COOL. They are the opposite of cool. They are made fun of... You'd be cooler if you dressed a a clown everyday!

I like ALL genres, that listed was just what my preferences are. I mean to explore, not just by genre but as a whole. What punk bands? What "super heavy rock"?

Greenday for one.
And super-heavy rock is a term i made up for some of the local bands around here that are like banging dustbin lids together :P i find it amusing.

Greenday for one.
Old Greenday or new greenday?

Only people who richly deserve it.

How do i deserve it?

I pulled myself out of being a chav, any of them could do it if they wanted to.
They dont want to become better people, therefore they are bad, if a chav tried to become better but couldnt then they'd be equal with the rest of humanity.
It's the arrogance.. Do you not see? I don't care what you label yourself. It doesn't matter. No one can claim absolute truth on the value of human life and on the values of one sub-culture.

Old Greenday or new greenday?

Humm... as music i prefer old.
as Message i prefer new.
But wake me up before september ends was just... :rolleyes: :sniper:

chill. Must admit to being slightly biased here, being somewhat of the emo myself, but how is emo really worse than any other "scene"? Choose whichever group you want to associate yourself with if you like, or ignore them all, but don't claim that any is superior to another, cos it makes no sense. Just personal opinion. But also, if you are emo, dont claim to be all "alternative" cos whilst you may think you arent conforming, your conforming to a "nonconformist" subculture, which is ironically just as conforming as being mainstream, although with a slightly higher chance of getting the piss taken out of you. Anyway, what was i saying? Chill! that was it... have a good one all.

Humm... as music i prefer old.
as Message i prefer new.
But wake me up before september ends was just... :rolleyes: :sniper:
Difference number one between you english emoes and the michigan ones i know.

One culture isnt better than another.
They are ALL better than chav.

This is one big masturbatory thread. Most of you are just trying to define yourself by music and therefore debating who is better.

No offense, but most of you are still trying to discover music. You all are trying to boast that yours is superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any one construct piece of noise that is pleasing to just ONE person is music. You still all need to do some exploring. No matter what your preference is, it doesn't matter. I enjoy mostly extreme forms of metal (Doom, Death, Black, and Grind) along with ambient, soundscapes, some IDM, Noise, and avant-garde composers. It is all about preference and ENJOYING what you listen to. It doesn't matter as long as you know you will enjoy it forever.
I bloody wasn't! I was sticking up for chavs and mocking british weather!

Difference number one between you english emoes and the michigan ones i know.

do they wear sweatbands and pink and tight jeans and have nice hair and pale skin?????

Greenday for one.
And super-heavy rock is a term i made up for some of the local bands around here that are like banging dustbin lids together :P i find it amusing.

I would hardly call Greenday "punk". Charles Bronson, Axe Grinder, Aus Rotten, and some others. While there are loads of sub genres in each genre, you should take time to explore everything. I don't get angry and people listening to whatever the hell they like, but claiming something is better than another is nonsense. Greenday isn't better then those other bands, but the other bands may truly embody crust or powerviolence rather than a simple word "punk".


I bloody wasn't! I was sticking up for chavs and mocking british weather!

Then what makes you think I was refering to you?

do they wear sweatbands and pink and tight jeans and have nice hair and pale skin?????
They did kind of grow out of the dying goth movement so the pale skin is still in for them...but define nice hair. Cause they like to make it as unnatural as can be. And also pink mixed with black tends to be a hit amongst them.

They did kind of grow out of the dying goth movement so the pale skin is still in for them...but define nice hair. Cause they like to make it as unnatural as can be. And also pink mixed with black tends to be a hit amongst them.

Well thats because its hot :D
Nice hair as in Black or Brown and long. (girls) with an Emo Flick.

Then what makes you think I was refering to you?

The same thing that made me think that dude was calling me pseudointellectual! QI isn't on for another twenty minutes and I have nothing better to do.

The same thing that made me think that dude was calling me pseudointellectual! QI isn't on for another twenty minutes and I have nothing better to do.

QI's on?

Well thats because its hot :D
Nice hair as in Black or Brown and long. (girls) with an Emo Flick.
Eh by the end of my senior year in highschool more hten just the goths were dying their hair black. The emo kids tend to prefer multiple/unnatural hair color. I do have to admit that when brunettes are hot they are teh best but I far prefer girls to just have the natural color.

The same thing that made me think that dude was calling me pseudointellectual! QI isn't on for another twenty minutes and I have nothing better to do.
Actually you called yourself one...either that or you called yourself a pseudointellect which makes far less sense.

QI's on?
It is and I'm not telling you which channel.. it's repeats anyway...

This is one big masturbatory thread. Most of you are just trying to define yourself by music and therefore debating who is better.

No offense, but most of you are still trying to discover music. You all are trying to boast that yours is superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Any one construct piece of noise that is pleasing to just ONE person is music. You still all need to do some exploring. No matter what your preference is, it doesn't matter. I enjoy mostly extreme forms of metal (Doom, Death, Black, and Grind) along with ambient, soundscapes, some IDM, Noise, and avant-garde composers. It is all about preference and ENJOYING what you listen to. It doesn't matter as long as you know you will enjoy it forever.
damn right :fluffle:

It is and I'm not telling you which channel.. it's repeats anyway...

(Cries)

Actually you called yourself one...either that or you called yourself a pseudointellect which makes far less sense.
I don't like you.

Watching this thread is hilarious. You guys keep talking, please.

Why would you want to label yourself anyway?

I take it your a chav, to debate the right of emo's to exist to a chav is useless.
Emo's are hot as and being emo has got me noticed by girls this much more <-------->

I'm with him:)

*flicks fringe*

Watching this thread is hilarious. You guys keep talking, please.

Why would you want to label yourself anyway?

In case a Label based government rises to power :)

Vote Emo-Goth 2016.

(Cries)
I tell you.. Stephen Fry is a dude, ain't he?

Watching this thread is hilarious. You guys keep talking, please.

Why would you want to label yourself anyway?

Well, I could go into psychological and anthropological theories about the human need to "in-group" and "out-group," which I think is the cause of most of the stupid problems we have in the world, but to make a long story short, it's human nature and you can't fix it.

Emo is pretty much projecting a superficial 'image' of being dark and angsty. People think it makes them look all cool and dark and non-mainstream.

Those goth kids in South Park pretty much sum up the whole 'emo' thing nicely.

But, a lot of things that aren't emo get labelled it because of superficial things they have in common.

I'm with him:)

*flicks fringe*

(Blows trumpet)
The cavalry is here!

I tell you.. Stephen Fry is a dude, ain't he?

Despite being decidedly hetro, I declare my utter love for Steven Fry in all facets of hsi endeavour, his assuming my second funniest individual upon the planet compounding this (Angus Deayton is first)

Despite being decidedly hetro, I declare my utter love for Steven Fry in all facets of hsi endeavour, his assuming my second funniest individual upon the planet compounding this (Angus Deayton is first)

DEFINATELY :) Alan Davies close behing tho ;p

(Blows trumpet)
The cavalry is here!

Damn straight:p

The majority is always right? Ok then :) I cant think of a single time the majority has been wrong :) none whatsoever.
OH WAIT

...

Earth is Flat

...



When in the last two thousand years did the majority believe that the Earth was flat?

Emos look gay and listen to bad music. There is no further complexity to the matter.

Despite being decidedly hetro, I declare my utter love for Steven Fry in all facets of hsi endeavour, his assuming my second funniest individual upon the planet compounding this (Angus Deayton is first)
Bah! I'm so hetro I didn't have to decide about it! And Angus Deayton isn't that funny.

Emos look gay and listen to bad music. There is no further complexity to the matter.

evidence? Please proffer.

When in the last two thousand years did the majority believe that the Earth was flat?

Yeah, throughout most of recorded history, anybody who bothered to think about the issue thought the world was round, they just didn't have the measurements right.

When in the last two thousand years did the majority believe that the Earth was flat?

...I dont know the dates, but definately until the discovery of America. :rolleyes: foooool

Yeah, throughout most of recorded history, anybody who bothered to think about the issue thought the world was round, they just didn't have the measurements right.

Therein lies your problem. The majority DONT think ;p

...I dont know the dates, but definately until the discovery of America. :rolleyes: foooool
The answer you we're looking for was "never"..

Yeah, throughout most of recorded history, anybody who bothered to think about the issue thought the world was round, they just didn't have the measurements right.

Hey now, Eratosthenes was wrong by only a few thousand kilometers when it came to the size of the planet. Not bad for ~250BC.

Suicide to an extent , but soo funny...

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/2004/March/26/Pics/07%20Finding%20Emo.jpg

and ...

http://photobucket.com/albums/a18/_toasterliciousIcons/Bases%20I%20Made/th_finding_emo.jpg

...I dont know the dates, but definately until the discovery of America. :rolleyes: foooool

Ah, you're believing fictions coined by Washington Irving in the C19th as truth. That's your problem right there.

Ah, you're believing fictions coined by Washington Irving in the C19th as truth. That's your problem right there.

er... perhaps. I withdraw my point.

er... perhaps. I withdraw my point.

Nobly done. We need never mention this again.

Ah, you're believing fictions coined by Washington Irving in the C19th as truth. That's your problem right there.

Yeah. "Columbus was trying to prove that the world is round" sounds simpler and more noble than "Columbus was trying to discover a sea route to India so that he could get rich quick."

He also seriously underestimated the distance to the next land mass. The ships he used - called caravels - were actually rather small cargo boats that usually didn't get out of sight of the shore on their voyages. He was lucky that he and everyone on the expedition didn't starve to death.

Well the fact remains emo's are pretty damned hot and intelligent.
They have nice clothing.
They are really nice :D
we have cool hair. (Flicks)
and we slit wrists :D:D

and we slit wrists :D:D

A habit not enough of you die from, unfortunately. Remember to cut down, not across, and you can rectify that easily enough.

A habit not enough of you die from, unfortunately. Remember to cut down, not across, and you can rectify that easily enough.

Uncalled for see? Disgraceful. :(

Uncalled for see? Disgraceful. :(

Oh, don't give me that. Your posturing, nay, your very existence, is uncalled for.

i guess i dont understand emo either. i respect it as a way of life for some but i just dont understand why you cut yourself. i mean doesnt it has to hurt and usually most people dont like to feel lots of pains so can someone explain.
ir ead most of the thread and all i hear about is emos and chavs so someone please explain lol.

Oh, don't give me that. Your posturing, nay, your very existence, is uncalled for.

? :( see its just nastyness.

Khaotik, I like your style. As for Europa, dear god you're annoying. You could put up a more mature front for your social group seeing as you seem to be the only one representing it. So far (and I have read pretty much all of this thread as I find it amusing) you've acted like a petulant child and I wouldn't be surprised if you'd cried along the way.

Emos are attention seeking, self absorbed and hyper sensitive. As for why they insist on slicing themselves up, I don't know. If you're all so hot, why mutilate yourself in such a self depricating way? You're just a walking contradiction. But I blame it on your being too young to understand, don't worry, you'll grow out of it and see the error of your ways. Especially when you're 30, with kids and they ask where you got all those scars from.

Khaotik, I like your style. As for Europa, dear god you're annoying. You could put up a more mature front for your social group seeing as you seem to be the only one representing it. So far (and I have read pretty much all of this thread as I find it amusing) you've acted like a petulant child and I wouldn't be surprised if you'd cried along the way.

Emos are attention seeking, self absorbed and hyper sensitive. As for why they insist on slicing themselves up, I don't know. If you're all so hot, why mutilate yourself in such a self depricating way? You're just a walking contradiction. But I blame it on your being too young to understand, don't worry, you'll grow out of it and see the error of your ways. Especially when you're 30, with kids and they ask where you got all those scars from.

(smiles)
If we manage to cut deep enough to get scars we normally dont have kids.

Khaotik, I like your style. As for Europa, dear god you're annoying. You could put up a more mature front for your social group seeing as you seem to be the only one representing it. So far (and I have read pretty much all of this thread as I find it amusing) you've acted like a petulant child and I wouldn't be surprised if you'd cried along the way.

Emos are attention seeking, self absorbed and hyper sensitive. As for why they insist on slicing themselves up, I don't know. If you're all so hot, why mutilate yourself in such a self depricating way? You're just a walking contradiction. But I blame it on your being too young to understand, don't worry, you'll grow out of it and see the error of your ways. Especially when you're 30, with kids and they ask where you got all those scars from.


So merely being harsh and vulgar to "emoes" is good?

I can be quite vulgar, anyone can if they apply themselves, but it isn't desirable.

So merely being harsh and vulgar to "emoes" is good?

I can be quite vulgar, anyone can if they apply themselves, but it isn't desirable.

Agreed, this thread has turned into an Insult competition, i dare not start insulting lest i hurt some feelings :) have a cookie.

who knows whats up with those emo people. Their just messed up in general.
Its probably just some twisted form of depression. One thing is for sure, though, they are DEFINATLY stupid people...and they're ugly, too. Whatever posseses them to act stupid and dress themselves like they do is beyond anybody with the smallest bit of common sense. Why resort to cutting yourself? It could be a problem with the parents, though, that have no responsibilty or are neglectful and abusive. Or maybe emo is a mental disorder? hmmm....

...stupid emos :mp5:

emo is a trend. a fashion. just like everything else: chavism, the 'metalhead' look, 'indie look', trendy look... whatever it is, if you're following someone else (be they someone you know or someone famous like a musician) because you think its cool, then you're not being yourself and are just another in the long line of people following a trend.
the sad thing with most emos and goths are that they seem to think they're being so original and cool, when they are, like i say, just another typical goth/emo/stoner/metalhead/indie/trendie/jock/whatever

just do what the fuck you like and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. that, to me, is the way to buck the trends and be "cool" (though you might not be anything like what is fashionably 'cool')

[/rant]
can you enlighten me on what the hell is the chav?

who knows whats up with those emo people. Their just messed up in general.
Its probably just some twisted form of depression. One thing is for sure, though, they are DEFINATLY stupid people...and they're ugly, too. Whatever posseses them to act stupid and dress themselves like they do is beyond anybody with the smallest bit of common sense.

...stupid emos :mp5:

:rolleyes: What possesses you to dress up like you do?

Rawr.
Emo is: Punk-Goth, wears pink and black, black hair pale skin is popular, emo "Flick" depressed stereotype. Hot!!!

Chav is: Chav, Burboury, fake jewelry, tendency to grunt, idiots. :) k?

I don't think any individual who is a member of the civilized and intelligent world understands emo. It's just as funny to see rich kids cry about not having stuff.

I don't think any individual who is a member of the civilized and intelligent world understands emo. It's just as funny to see rich kids cry about not having stuff.

.........What? :S

Rawr.
Emo is: Punk-Goth, wears pink and black, black hair pale skin is popular, emo "Flick" depressed stereotype. Hot!!!

Chav is: Chav, Burboury, fake jewelry, tendency to grunt, idiots. :) k?

You are an idiot as well. Every "culture" has bad and good. I can take any lifestyle and show how it is idiotic, but also show why it is good.

You are an idiot as well. Every "culture" has bad and good. I can take any lifestyle and show how it is idiotic, but also show why it is good.

very well.
I challenge anyone in the room to find something "Good" about chavs :)

very well.
I challenge anyone in the room to find something "Good" about chavs :)


Chavs aren't as annoying as you at the moment.

Chavs aren't as annoying as you at the moment.

Very funny, is that because im proving you wrong? "Holy shit... he challenged me...err...your annoying!!!" but seriously find something GOOD about there culture :) you CANT.

Very funny, is that because im proving you wrong? "Holy shit... he challenged me...err...your annoying!!!" but seriously find something GOOD about there culture :) you CANT.


I just did, I'd rather be with a chav than you.

thankfully I havent seen too many chavs aound here in Chicago, although emos are starting to infiltrate my brother's high school. Its quite funny really, seeing them try to look all sad and "Oooo look at me I dress in black and cut myself, but I am depressed cause I cant kill myself." Damn man, just jump in front of a fu*kin truck already and stop spreading your disease here.

I just did, I'd rather be with a chav than you.

:rolleyes: Dude, your not getting this, clearly your intelligence is too low, lemme try something easier.

What is GOOD about chavs.
Not what is BAD about me.
what is GOOD.
Good is something you like see? You understand these long words?

thankfully I havent seen too many chavs aound here in Chicago, although emos are starting to infiltrate my brother's high school. Its quite funny really, seeing them try to look all sad and "Oooo look at me I dress in black and cut myself, but I am depressed cause I cant kill myself." Damn man, just jump in front of a fu*kin truck already and stop spreading your disease here.

Can we please stop talking about suicide, that one hit home.

I just did, I'd rather be with a chav than you.
hey, is chav a british thing or what?
If so please keep it on your side of the pond too! At least sink the freaks when they get halfway here, we have enough wiggers here anyway.

Can we please stop talking about suicide, that one hit home.
sorry, I didnt know I was crossing into sensitive territory.
Please forgive my mistake.

:rolleyes: Dude, your not getting this, clearly your intelligence is too low, lemme try something easier.

What is GOOD about chavs.
Not what is BAD about me.
what is GOOD.
Good is something you like see? You understand these long words?


Clearly you don't understand. I am comparing a chav to you. Comparison is needed to show value.

How about, Chavs are not annoying.

Better?

sorry, I didnt know I was crossing into sensitive territory.
Please forgive my mistake.

dw

Clearly you don't understand. I am comparing a chav to you. Comparison is needed to show value.

How about, Chavs are not annoying.

Better?

In the same way as Hitler wasnt racist?

Meh.... I'd rather have an emo kid around than a prep or a jock myself, at least the ones who don't consider themselves to be "Punks" and worship Hot Topic. But meh. My region is distinctly lacking a real punk scene (instead we have scensters) so the local Emo kids proove to be more interesting than anyone else.

But I could just be biased. My closest friends are Emo-kids.

Personally, I consider the ideology flawed, but the people not so bad.

In the same way as Hitler wasnt racist?

Please don't talk about Hitler, I am very sensitive to that issue.

Infact, don't talk about ANYTHING because then you will always upset someone.

Please don't talk about Hitler, I am very sensitive to that issue.

Infact, don't talk about ANYTHING because then you will always upset someone.

Dudes a friend of mine commited suicide on the weekend by jumping in front of a train im ***** entitled to be sensitve so shut the **** up.

WOW! So, like, there are these two high-school cliques, 'kay? And, like, they don't like each other? Totally rad. 'Cause, like, y'know, most people in high school don't, like, like 80% of the people anyways, like, y'know?

:rolleyes:

Cliques existed long before emos, goths, chavs, and what-the-fuck-ever else you people call yourselves and others, and they've always been the same pissy little xenophobe factories that do nothing but stifle individualism and spread ridiculous stereotypes because it's the same 10-15 people talking about the other same 10-15 people over and over again. Also, I like run-on sentences.

Dudes a friend of mine commited suicide on the weekend by jumping in front of a train im fuckin entitled to be sensitve so shut the fuck up.


I see, so you are entitled to YOUR protection against any offensive material, but you can go on and talk about whatever you want?

Let us all cater to your liking.

Emotion! = Emo.
They are for the most part, reaaaaaaly angsty. I'm just POed (yes there's a difference).
Listen to The Emo Song (emosong.ytmnd.com) for a better, if somewhat comedic, understanding of emo.

It's called Emo Kid.
By Adam and Andrew.
Get it straight...
People that mess that up really piss me off.
And also, emo is not really anything..
I differ in almost as many ways as possible from stereotypical emo.
Yet, I am emo.
And people know it.
And this is what I do to chavs.
:p :sniper:

Dudes a friend of mine commited suicide on the weekend by jumping in front of a train im fuckin entitled to be sensitve so shut the fuck up.


I see, so you are entitled to YOUR protection against any offensive material, but you can go on and talk about whatever you want?

Let us all cater to your liking.

My cousin died in a car accident and my uncle was paralyzed from the neck down. I had to watch a loved one die from a brain tumor. We all have tough stuff in our lives!

I see, so you are entitled to YOUR protection against any offensive material, but you can go on and talk about whatever you want?

Let us all cater to your liking.
Thats pretty insensitive, i shouldnt be so touchy i know but come on.

im gonna go. bye all.

Read the edit above, your not the only one who has rough stuff. I don't want someone's tragedies to get in the way of my freedoms. We all suffer, but we also enjoy things. It is part of life.

Read the edit above, your not the only one who has rough stuff. I don't want someone's tragedies to get in the way of my freedoms. We all suffer, but we also enjoy things. It is part of life.

But was it THIS weekend.

But was it THIS weekend.

No, but I think it best that you did what you said about and stay away from the topic if it is so disorienting.

the fashion emo kids never got under my skin as much as actual emo's. the darn cutters. but when you think about it the entire "scene" culture is pretty silly. how entire cliques are formed just from similarities in musical taste. but I can't say much, I play indie snob myself.

You know, originally I was going to post my take on this whole issue, but Europa Alpha's ridiculous behavior on this thread is really tempting me to just take the easy way out and post some disparaging rant on how emo kids are just worthless, whiney combination of watered down punk and goth with nothing original to offer.

However, I better not, because that wouldn't really be fair of me, because that's not my actual opinion of all emo kids (though it seems to be true of a certain one).

Anyway, I agree somewhat with the point Pure Metal made a while ago. If you like the music, then listen to the music. Sometimes certain aesthetic styles are associated with musical genres. If you like the particular style, go for it. If you don't, then don't.

Myself, I listen to many things, including "classical" (my favorites are actually from the Romantic and early modern/reaction to modern periods), swing, and others. Mainly, I listen to metal (specifically black metal, goth/doom and thrash). That does not mean I have to hate everybody who doesn't, or think I'm superior because of it. I also somewhat like the gothic aesthetic style, probably because I have good associations with people who dress in it.

I often wear plain black, but I sometimes wear blue and grey as well. I've always liked darker colors, though. And me listening to music I like and wearing clothes I like doesn't "take society down a few notches," it just pleases me. Though, in our culture, aesthetic styles worn can and frequently are used as flags to tip off others that might share musical taste. I don't particularly think I'm better than those who have different taste in music and/or clothing. Though, I have to admit I find some styles rather silly. Whatever, those who like them obviously disagree.

The way I dress and the music I listen to isn't me making an attack on society, though I tend not to like mainstream music or fashion. I have simply chosen what sounds good and looks good to me. I admit that my style of dress was partly influenced by my musical taste, but it wasn't like "oh, I have to dress like this now!". More like "Well, I don't see that kind of thing very often. Kinda like the way it looks though. Hmmm..."

Anyway, that's my two cents. Perhaps you disagree. I don't know. It's all a matter of taste and associations between musical and aesthetic interests. Some genres of music, some because they are in the minority, have strong links to certain styles. Which isn't to say that everyone who likes certain music will also like the same styles others who like that music do. Again, it's a matter of personal taste. I would advise only dressing a certain way because you you like it, though.

I won't rant about Emo, but I do have two things to say to Europa Alpha:

Grow the fuck up.

And stop taking yourself so goddamn seriously.

hahaha, the plural of emo is emoes:D .and the Feminist of emoe is enema.


http://www.m-n-j.com/town/music_audio/shintora/images/blink182_enema_of_the_state.jpg

:D :D :p :D

I like Emo music, Punk music, Goth music, Classical (Im ashamed!, Country (cries), Light rock, indi rock, heavy rock and Super heavy rock :D

So you enjoy a few bands withing seveal different subgenres of music, some of which are so closely related as to be sub-sub genres (goth, punk, emo, and indie)? Trust me when I say you're only at the tip of the iceberg. I know, it seems like you know about a whole bunch of bands and genres, but for every new band you discover theres a dozen more you've never heard of. For every genre you get into theres ten more subgenres around the corner and a half dozen other genres that influenced the bands you're digging. It is an endless search, and it is almost universally subjective.

Masturbating over whose taste or fashion is superior is always retarded.

thankfully I havent seen too many chavs aound here in Chicago, although emos are starting to infiltrate my brother's high school. Its quite funny really, seeing them try to look all sad and "Oooo look at me I dress in black and cut myself, but I am depressed cause I cant kill myself." Damn man, just jump in front of a fu*kin truck already and stop spreading your disease here.

You've seen chavs. We've had them for awhile, they just aren't called chavs. You can call them whiggers, or posers. Think the wannabe tough guys who drive up and down Harlem Avenue in their daddy's cars on the northwest side. Think they white guys who dress like they're from the projects and cover themselves in dollar store bling. Actually, just think of any white guy you've ever heard use the word "dog" without refering to a canine.

Emo, ah god what a set of personal values.

God, I love it. I really do.

Wait until you all get into college, then you'll notice that pulling that bullshit doesn't work any more. Just be yourself. Don't classify yourself, be cool with as many people as possible. Embrace everything that can even be remotely entertaining. Don't limit yourself to silly sub-culture norms. If you do that, you'll never try anything new. Take everyone for who they are, not for their style.

Did I know that I actually enjoyed country until I tried it? No, I didn't. Once upon a time I isolated myself and got nothing of it but isolation. Now I'm an open fellow, I've got more friends than I can count, and I am far happier than I've ever been in the past.

and the Feminist of emoe is enema.


http://www.m-n-j.com/town/music_audio/shintora/images/blink182_enema_of_the_state.jpg

:D :D :p :D
Blink references are always amusing.

Well, People At My School Consider Half-Emo, But I Don't Wear Eye-Liner (Although The Rings Under My Eyes From Sleep Deprevation Make It Seem Like It), Nail Polish, Or Hot Pink. And I Am Considerably Smarter Than 90 Percent Of My School Population. And I Don't Complain About Everything. And I'm Not Gay. And I Don't Try To Be A COMPLETE Non-Conformist. And Besides, I Love Laughing At This Song: emosong.ytmnd.com !

Dudes a friend of mine commited suicide on the weekend by jumping in front of a train im ***** entitled to be sensitve so shut the **** up.
We all have our pains, it all depends upon how we deal with them.

I challenge you to find a single person who has never suffered loss, who has never suffered shock and pain. I really do. I certainly won't tell you to maintain a stiff upper lip, because that's not psychologically all that healthy for some people, but to do more than just express pain, do more than just bask in your suffering. Take your pain and make something great out of it, do something positive, improve the world. That is the only way to live. We only fall so we can stand right back up again.

Since when did I pick up motivational speaking?

I'd like to thank Pure Metal for providing the link to the highly amusing .avi file. Now I'm clear as to who and what emo is.

Buahahahaha!

The more things change, the more they stay the same. This is precisely how the kids who spent far too much of their time in the Drama department used to act. Back in the 80s, anyway.

I didn't hate 'em, but they sure hated me. Well, everybody hated me, everybody but the staff that is, but... that's another story altogether.

Soooo.... How Many People HAVE Posted The Emo Song? (emosong.ytmnd.com) I Noticed It Seems To Be Just About Everyone Who Goes To YTMND.com

When Chuck Norris feels emo, he cuts other people.. with his roundhouse kicks.

Cheap whiney Imitation of Goth.
Im an Insane gun-a-holic Goth who hates pretty much everyone and everything. And I dont express it emo style.... OH HELL NO. I insult, I hurt, I destroy. Lol. Go hate.:sniper: :mp5: :gundge:

When Chuck Norris feels emo, he cuts other people.. with his roundhouse kicks.
Oh God, Another Chuck Norris Cult Member! NOOOOOOO!

Oh God, Another Chuck Norris Cult Member! NOOOOOOO!
Are you kidding? I fueled it.

I did not click on any of the links but... if fall out boy is considered emo.

How about these bands?

Yellowcard
Alexisonfire (I would hope not)
All American Rejects.
Simple Plan <=== I would think so.

I did not click on any of the links but... if fall out boy is considered emo.

How about these bands?

Yellowcard
Alexisonfire (I would hope not)
All American Rejects.
Simple Plan <=== I would think so.
Yellowcard, No. Don't Know About The Others.

If you want to know what a chav is, simply visithttp://www.chavscum.co.uk

Yes because stereotypes are ALL true :rolleyes: Americans are stupid and British are posh, French are cowardly and Germans are violent.
Nice.
Dont use stereotypes to form an arguement, k?

It's not a stereotype dumbass.

To be called a football player is to be an athlete. To be "Emo" one listens to Emo music correct? Emo music consists of pulling on your sympathy strings by lots of crying and whining. Therefore if you listen to Emo you're drawn to what the music consists of or you're a pretender.

Never seen a metal head who hates metal or a rapper who hates rap unless they're posing. If you don't like being called emo than don't listen to it or stop dressing like one. Life sucks, instead of crying about it I'm out to kick its ass. :)

It's not a stereotype dumbass.

To be called a football player is to be an athlete. To be "Emo" one listens to Emo music correct? Emo music consists of pulling on your sympathy strings by lots of crying and whining. Therefore if you listen to Emo you're drawn to what the music consists of or you're a pretender.

Never seen a metal head who hates metal or a rapper who hates rap unless they're posing. If you don't like being called emo than don't listen to it or stop dressing like one. Life sucks, instead of crying about it I'm out to kick its ass. :)

It's not because you listen to bands who make 'emomusic' that you are emo too. I also listen to some rap, r&b and metal but that doesn't make me a rapper-metalhead?

It's not because you listen to bands who make 'emomusic' that you are emo too. I also listen to some rap, r&b and metal but that doesn't make me a rapper-metalhead?

I was just defining what a typical "Emo" is. I was basically called a stereotyper because I said Emo's listen to Emo music, not that people who listen to Emo music are automatically emo. Confusing but there's a difference.

emo is a trend. a fashion. just like everything else: chavism, the 'metalhead' look, 'indie look', trendy look... whatever it is, if you're following someone else (be they someone you know or someone famous like a musician) because you think its cool, then you're not being yourself and are just another in the long line of people following a trend.
the sad thing with most emos and goths are that they seem to think they're being so original and cool, when they are, like i say, just another typical goth/emo/stoner/metalhead/indie/trendie/jock/whatever

just do what the fuck you like and don't give a shit what anyone else thinks. that, to me, is the way to buck the trends and be "cool" (though you might not be anything like what is fashionably 'cool')

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You've seen chavs. We've had them for awhile, they just aren't called chavs. You can call them whiggers, or posers. Think the wannabe tough guys who drive up and down Harlem Avenue in their daddy's cars on the northwest side. Think they white guys who dress like they're from the projects and cover themselves in dollar store bling. Actually, just think of any white guy you've ever heard use the word "dog" without refering to a canine.

Not Strictly true...

A true chav is generally an inhabitant of an inner city (or "new town") "scheme" or "estate" (social housing, more or less similar to US "projects").
Generally ill educated for a variety reasons both enviromental and social (or are perceived as such).
Distinctive traits are generally held to consist of: wear track siuts/shell siuts, intially Kappa/Le Coc Sportif were the preffered brands but addias has gained ground, the wearing of clothing articles decorated with the "burbery" tweed pattern (generally hates and scarves), often large "sports sock" are worn over the trouser bottoms and caps are worn with the visor forward but tilted up to reveal the forhead. Musical tastes tend to concetrate in the dance music area with particular prefferance to "happy hardcore" (insanely fast music with a vocal style inspired by the prodigy's "Charlie" ie very high pitched and fast ie chipmunks on speed). Alcoholism and drug abuse is seen as being rife amoungst these circles.

Also known by other names particularly in scotland where the terms "ned" and "bam" are used interchangably.
the "chav Culture" does have a following in what are commonly held to be middle or upper class areas, particualrly the suburbs of large cities, generally a degree of conflcit exists between workign class "hard" chavs and middle class "ponces" or wannabes, who generally tend to behave in a more agressive and arogant manor (as they can generally afford all the trapings).

Interestingly enough the chavs grew out of the "yob" culture of the 80s which was largely punk inspired. Many "chavs" are actually pretty decent hard working people its just that all the attention gets focused on thsoe who live on welfare. One good thing about chavs as with Emo's is that they generally "grow up" when they reach thier mid 20s and merely become "trendies".


As for Emo's well they are merely a more trendy version of the skaters, goths and mini moshers we have had in the past and as such are just as silly and deserving of ridicule. I generally enjoy a good laugh at the huge crowds of them who gather in the centre of Glasgow on a saturday, i assume they are waiting to get into the under 18s at the cat house (still a revered heavy metal club for the over 18s but the unders is mostly punk and emo) as to be honest i can't see any other reason tos tand around for hours in the centre of Glasgow.

I was just defining what a typical "Emo" is. I was basically called a stereotyper because I said Emo's listen to Emo music, not that people who listen to Emo music are automatically emo. Confusing but there's a difference.

No you were called a stereotyper because you said emo's slit there wrists.

Back up to the emo band list for a minute.

Yellowcard, Simple Plan, Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, and Alexisonfire are considered pop-punk for the most part; but definitely not emo. At all.

Bedlight for blueeyes, matchbook romance, straylight run, copeland, and to an extent, amber pacific and saosin would be considered emo. Think slow songs for the most part.

And Europe Alpha, most typical emo people do cut themselves. Hence why some make fun of emo by making a slashing motion on their wrists.

No you were called a stereotyper because you said emo's slit there wrists.

WHERE!?

I think you're confusing me with another poster.

For anyone who wants to be emo here's a short film to help you make the transition.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1923873564623297871&q=how+to+be+emo

Wait, so would these descriptions of Emo-ness apply to stuff like "Behind Blue Eyes," by The Who? Because if so, then that is possibly the most emo song ever.

For anyone who wants to be emo here's a short film to help you make the transition.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1923873564623297871&q=how+to+be+emo
Since When Is Either DCFC Or Modest Mouse Emo? I Though DCFC And Modest Mouse Were Indie... Wtf? I Think That Movie Has A Few Problems...

I wish my lawn was Emo because then it would cut itself...

"Hey, do you know what the Emo mating call is?"
"No, what?"
*Sobs uncontrollably and pretends to slit wrists*

laughs uncontrollaby...thank you !!!

whats the difference between 100 emo's or a 100 goths?
absofuckinglutely nothing....they are identical,in that they all think they are so unique,and special..yet look like a clone of each other.

another poster said something to the affect that your music or dress does not dictate whether you are cool or deep or whatever.

i contend that if you have to define yourself by your costume or music...then you are decidedly..uncool,or at the least..have a very poor sense of self.:gundge:

Since When Is Either DCFC Or Modest Mouse Emo? I Though DCFC And Modest Mouse Were Indie... Wtf? I Think That Movie Has A Few Problems...
Meh, What do I know? It's not like I'm some emo freak or something.

Meh, What do I know? It's not like I'm some emo freak or something.
Hey Man, I Listen To Them. If They're Emo, Then I'm God.