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I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

I'm not sure why, but this post makes me very sad. It could be the lack of paragraphs...

I remember back in the day when I was so faithful. I'm glad I got out of that.

How are you doing? My entire religous ed. department is going on a retreat later this february. It sounds rather boring, but they have paintball:gundge:. Some of the sophmores say that I will have a good time. I hope they are right, but I will bring my xbox just in case:D

I'm not sure why, but this post makes me very sad. It could be the lack of paragraphs...

But it's god you've got to be happy. Or he'll smite you or something about sodom and brimestone and whatnot.

Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?

And give the kid a break...at least this wasn't a Jesussaves rant...

And give the kid a break...at least this wasn't a Jesussaves rant...

I don't know, I think we need IP confirmation here. :p

Why do I suspect a Puppet?

Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?If these are university level courses, this kid must be a genius. :eek:

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
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Well, not really.

well he is christian of course he is a genius:p

well he is christian of course he is a genius:p
Wonder why he didn't take biology? :p

Wonder why he didn't take biology? :p
Maybe because he didn't want to spend ten months memorizing the phylums of various organisms. I hate biology. If God was really infallible he wouldn't have invented it.

Wonder why he didn't take biology? :p
Im a catholic in biology with a catholic biology teacher who teaches evolution

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Well, not really.

Everyone else takes full damage!

I am a new member of Seattle NCSY (National Conference of Synagogue Youth), an Orthodox Jewish youth group. I am also a member of NFTY (National Federation of Temple Youth), a Reform Jewish youth group.

Praise the Lord!

Im a catholic in biology with a catholic biology teacher who teaches evolution

A heretic cannot be catholic.

Whoa whoa whoa...seriously...why are you guys jumping on this poster? So far I've only seen one person respond seriously to the OP.

I'm not sure why, but this post makes me very sad. It could be the lack of paragraphs...

Real Christians use verses. Paragraphs are an abomination unto the Lord.

A heretic cannot be catholic.
What the hell are you talking about?

Whoa whoa whoa...seriously...why are you guys jumping on this poster? So far I've only seen one person respond seriously to the OP.

You'll attract more forumites with a spoon full of religion then.....well you get the idea.

Anyway to has some semblence of on topicness I've only been to one youth group meeting when I was younger, it was fun, but never really felt like going back after it.

Everyone else takes full damage!

:D

I'm not sure why, but this post makes me very sad. It could be the lack of paragraphs...

I remember back in the day when I was so faithful. I'm glad I got out of that.

No, it makes me depressed because of how easily the individual is impressed by some over hyped zealot hell bent on taking a generation and turning them into clueless zealots with more bigotry than <insert name of favourite facist dictator>

I swear, we need to have public floggings for ignorant religious types - make them realise the stupidity of their naivity and blind beliefs.

What the hell are you talking about?

What the hell you don't understand? Catholics must accept the whole Teaching of the Holy Church. If not, they ain't catholics, even if they might call themselves so...

No, it makes me depressed because of how easily the individual is impressed by some over hyped zealot hell bent on taking a generation and turning them into clueless zealots with more bigotry than <insert name of favourite facist dictator>

I swear, we need to have public floggings for ignorant religious types - make them realise the stupidity of their naivity and blind beliefs.

Ah, that's what it was.

I went to a youth group once. After talking to some of the people for a little bit, I promptly ran for it. So much blind faith, and such foolishness, my brain just couldn't take it.

I'd prefer to teach kids to rely on themselves, and their own skills, than on some god, that may or may not exist.

What the hell you don't understand? Catholics must accept the whole Teaching of the Holy Church. If not, they ain't catholics, even if they might call themselves so...
:headbang: No, that is not how it goes.

Never got into the whole religious thing. I prefer to thank myself for the good that happens, and take personal responsibility for the bad.

But hey, if it works for you, then go with it

Everyone else takes full damage!

grr, you beat me to it.

Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?

Meh, I started uni when I was 17.

Ah fee-yel thay-at the Lawwd hay-as say-ved anutha sowel!

Merry Christmas. I just sent you a jumbo package of periods and commas and also a booklet entitled "How to take a breath or two while typing or talking". I hope you like them.

Meh, I started uni when I was 17.
Meh, while we're all bragging here, I started college when I was 15 while attending High School.

Ahh, the good old days of Youth Group. It was like, "Sex for Jesus!" It was fun, but not for the same resons.

Meh, while we're all bragging here, I started college when I was 15 while attending High School.

Ahh, the good old days of Youth Group. It was like, "Sex for Jesus!" It was fun, but not for the same resons.

I wasn't really bragging. I'm only doing an arts degree.

My guess is the above poster isn't a uni student, though. It's pretty rare to find someone studying both science and economics. Even more so at that age.

Jesus is really a space man!

I wasn't really bragging. I'm only doing an arts degree.

My guess is the above poster isn't a uni student, though. It's pretty rare to find someone studying both science and economics. Even more so at that age.

Just about every college student will take chemistry and economics at some point.

I wasn't really bragging. I'm only doing an arts degree.
Okay, so I was looking for a reason to. ;)

Although I did it because I needed credit to graduate, and I wasn't about to take them at the school, because it was unnecessarily difficult.

Just about every college student will take chemistry and economics at some point.

Obviously our universities are structured much differently to your "colleges" then. We have to specialise...

Are colleges just an extension of high school then? Come to think of it, my high school was referred to as a college.

Jesus is really a space man!
Jesus was a blackman
No, Jesus is Batman
No!
That was Bruce Wayne!

I think a mid-teenager could handle chem 121 okay. Its foundational stuff, really...learning the basic terms, reviewing the periodic table, basic stoicheometry, redox balancing, common reactions and intro to molecular geometry, nomenclature of the common ions, and some rudimentary lab experience. Those kinds of things. If you went to a decent high school, you probably got something similar.

Just don't take the professor who thinks the following is hilarious:

"Why do we use Avocado's Number?"

"To convert grams into guacaMoles"

(And yes, I think he knows its Avogadro.)

Back to the original post - I have to wonder about it. It seems to me to be written by a 8yr old, not a 16 yr old. The appalling grammar, lack of sentence structure and inability to combine ideas and threads coherently...
Wait a minute.
They're all typicalindicators of a born-again mind!
So maybe he is telling the truth

Just don't take the professor who thinks the following is hilarious:

"Why do we use Avocado's Number?"

(And yes, I think he knows its Avogadro.)

What? Avogadro's Number is hilarious! I laugh everytime someone tries to remember the name and thinks of avocados instead. 2.066 * 10^23 FTW!

Anyway, to get further off-topic, does anyone else like avocados?

Obviously our universities are structured much differently to your "colleges" then. We have to specialise...

Are colleges just an extension of high school then? Come to think of it, my high school was referred to as a college.
college=one school (as in a school of communications)
university=many schools (ie Boston University, which is made up of 9 different colleges)

we have to specialize, but (assuming you go to a liberal arts based school) you have to take base courses in all the major areas...math, humanities, arts, lit, etc.

Obviously our universities are structured much differently to your "colleges" then. We have to specialise...

Are colleges just an extension of high school then? Come to think of it, my high school was referred to as a college.
Yes, they are structured differently. However, college is not an extension of High School, as it grants PhDs and bachelor degrees. There are agreements between High School and colleges that allow High Schools to offer college credits. But, High School is mandatory and offers a GED, or General Education Diploma.

America's universities try to actually make money most of the time, so certain classes, like Economics and Biology, become mandatory to recieve credit for certain diplomas and whatnot. While others around the world just allow people to focous on their studies, and become very proficient in what they wish to do, become specialised. In America, you gotta learn a bunch of other crap before you can do that, extending the length of your studies and how much money the college gets.

That's what I think anyway.

Obviously our universities are structured much differently to your "colleges" then. We have to specialise...

Are colleges just an extension of high school then? Come to think of it, my high school was referred to as a college.

Sorry, I use the two words as synonyms.

We have to specialize here also, but most univerities require a certain amount of "core classes"

For example, I am a computer engineering major, but among my required classes for graduation are English 1 and 2, either Macro or Micro economics and several other social science electives.

Similarly, other majors at my school such as management are still required to take General Chemistry and Physics.

Jesus saves.

But Pele scores on the rebound.

America's universities try to actually make money most of the time, so certain classes, like Economics and Biology, become mandatory to recieve credit for certain diplomas and whatnot. While others around the world just allow people to focous on their studies, and become very proficient in what they wish to do, become specialised. In America, you gotta learn a bunch of other crap before you can do that, extending the length of your studies and how much money the college gets.

That's what I think anyway.
American education (including the higher education system) is based off John Stewart Mills theory of educate the whole child. Knowledge of many things improves knowledge in all areas. Not to mention, few people know what they really want to do, so it gives a chance to sort of dabble in everything to find something you like.

Also, they would still be 4 year schools, so they don't get any more money out of the deal.

Sorry, I use the two words as synonyms.

We have to specialize here also, but most univerities require a certain amount of "core classes"

For example, I am a computer engineering major, but among my required classes for graduation are English 1 and 2, either Macro or Micro economics and several other social science electives.

Similarly, other majors at my school such as management are still required to take General Chemistry and Physics.

Does your system differ computer engineering from computer science? In my region, CompEng deals more with hardware, whereas CompSci leans to software.

Does your system differ computer engineering from computer science? In my region, CompEng deals more with hardware, whereas CompSci leans to software.

That's how we differentiate them as well.

I swear, we need to have public floggings for ignorant religious types - make them realise the stupidity of their naivity and blind beliefs.

And people say Stalinism went out of style.

Sorry, I use the two words as synonyms.

We have to specialize here also, but most univerities require a certain amount of "core classes"

For example, I am a computer engineering major, but among my required classes for graduation are English 1 and 2, either Macro or Micro economics and several other social science electives.

Similarly, other majors at my school such as management are still required to take General Chemistry and Physics.

(I'll just quote your post, it's easier)

Interesting. Seems rather pointless, in my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't mind as I have an interest in science and am competent at it as well, though I can see how it would be difficult for some people.

Over here, you pick your degree....and then a range of subjects from within that degree, as well as having an "elective" in which you can pick whatever you like. In a B.A., there are no required core units. My course is only three years long as a result of this.

American education (including the higher education system) is based off John Stewart Mills theory of educate the whole child. Knowledge of many things improves knowledge in all areas. Not to mention, few people know what they really want to do, so it gives a chance to sort of dabble in everything to find something you like.

Over here, the former is what high school is for. The latter....face it....very few people, no matter how educated they are, really know exactly what they want.

And people say Stalinism went out of style.

Stalinism is like leather. It never goes out of style.

Stalinism is like leather. It never goes out of style.

Is Maoism like denim? I'm not into politics, but I like easy-to-remember rules.

(I'll just quote your post, it's easier)

Interesting. Seems rather pointless, in my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't mind as I have an interest in science and am competent at it as well, though I can see how it would be difficult for some people.

Over here, you pick your degree....and then a range of subjects from within that degree, as well as having an "elective" in which you can pick whatever you like. In a B.A., there are no required core units. My course is only three years long as a result of this.

I agree, our way is highly inefficient and only results in higher tuition fees and a longer time spent at the university. This is why I took advanced courses in high school and recieved full university level credit for Economics, US History and English 1.

Jesus saves.

But Pele scores on the rebound.
I'm really sick of hearing that joke.
But for some reason, i NEVER get tired of reading it!
Actually, the one about Jesus saving because of coupons and carpooling i can't stand reading but i haven't heard it in a while. They need more audio options with this forum.

Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?
No, they're like ECC 23:1 and REV 22:20 and the such, it's just that for some reason their original posting font won't include the colons.
To be fair, they're probably the "fact-option" versions, so i think they can whiz through them much quicker without so many bumps.

;)

No, they're like ECC 23:1 and REV 22:20 and the such, it's just that for some reason their original posting font won't include the colons.
To be fair, they're probably the "fact-option" versions, so i think they can whiz through them much quicker without so many bumps.

;)

What is that supposed to mean?

I get your reference to bible verses, but the rest of the post is either a very poorly constructed joke or a clumsy attempt at christian-bashing.

Wonder why he didn't take biology? :p
That'd be courses GEN 619 through GEN 716.

That'd be courses GEN 619 through GEN 716.

aren't you clever

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
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Who loves ya, baby?

What is that supposed to mean?
Is this a zen question? I don't imagine you're averse to these kinds of situations.

I get your reference to bible verses, but the rest of the post is either a very poorly constructed joke or a clumsy attempt at christian-bashing.
It's not funny if you have to explain the joke.
Any other takers?
To be honest, i could have been less verbose but i apparently correctly assessed that there were viewers of this thread that *liked* and *endorse* long-winded, confusing and often self-conflicting diatribes. Good for you by not letting it slip past your radar!

That'd be courses GEN 619 through GEN 716.

Anything over 400 is grad school in some systems. And 716 is "Independent Research Seminar" which is code for "stay up all night, get high, watch infomercials, and then write your thesis in 52 consecutive hours the weekend before your Advisor wants to see it"

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Who loves ya, baby?
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Is this a zen question? I don't imagine you're averse to these kinds of situations.


It's not funny if you have to explain the joke.
Any other takers?
To be honest, i could have been less verbose but i apparently correctly assessed that there were viewers of this thread that *liked* and *endorse* long-winded, confusing and often self-conflicting diatribes. Good for you by not letting it slip past your radar!

You've gotten across the fact that you disagree with the bible and christianity in general. However, this doesn't mena your comments are funny. Remember that a good comedian adjusts his jokes for his audience.

aren't you clever
Well, it depends on your point of view i guess .... isn't that what you're getting at?

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!

~Abyss

I never felt the need to join any youth group, and definatly not one of the religious ones. They seemed to me like brainwashing god loving sin hating bunch of imbecils. I'm not saying that you are an imbecil mind you, but that's the image i had of the local ones when i was a kid.

Well, it depends on your point of view i guess .... isn't that what you're getting at?

I think he was just seriously asking - cause he wasn't sure if you were clever or not.

So answer the damn question... aren't you clever?

You've gotten across the fact that you disagree with the bible and christianity in general. However, this doesn't mena your comments are funny. Remember that a good comedian adjusts his jokes for his audience.
Remember that the material is what it is, and there's a lot of hit-and-miss.
Besides, little japes and such are the only employ so far on this thread, so you should consider that before you decide for me what i agree with or don't based on a few posts here.
If, however, you can refer to any posts i've put elsewhere about the topic, other than this thread, you would also have to concede that i'm being modest.
Since you appear to be in earnest, then i'll point out that there are parts of the bible i do agree with. Christianity as well.

I think he was just seriously asking - cause he wasn't sure if you were clever or not.

So answer the damn question... aren't you clever?
As in, am i NOT clever?
Or am i clever, with sarcasm (verbal irony) inflected?
Again, I beseech a better audio interface with this forum!! Curses! (whoops, gave m'self away there)
Now you're going and confusing it all, Gartref!!! Twice foiled in one night!!

Jesus is really a space man!

No he was NOT! He was a hippie! :p

Satanism For the Win.

I hate how peoples views of Satanism are clouded, Its so crap that Christians tell me that im going to hell and tell me to read the bible, then when i say youve got the idea wrong read MY satanic bible, they get all huffy and on a powertrip.

Ohwell, cant expect too much from a facist religion like Christiantity can we?

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Just incase you want to read up. Its not all bad, Or atall bad actually. It just tells you to be human. Thats it, Induldge in your instincts. Have fun.

:D ~Teald

Anything over 400 is grad school in some systems. And 716 is "Independent Research Seminar" which is code for "stay up all night, get high, watch infomercials, and then write your thesis in 52 consecutive hours the weekend before your Advisor wants to see it"
Isn't "advisor" with a capital A capable of determining the integrity of studies and academic pursuit, being the top of the food chain and all?

Anything over 400 is grad school in some systems. And 716 is "Independent Research Seminar" which is code for "stay up all night, get high, watch infomercials, and then write your thesis in 52 consecutive hours the weekend before your Advisor wants to see it"
lol, I'm doing one of those next year, sounds great.

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
No offense but to me it sounds like that youth group have brainwashed you.

You've gotten across the fact that you disagree with the bible and christianity in general. However, this doesn't mena your comments are funny. Remember that a good comedian adjusts his jokes for his audience.

But Christians haven't got a sense of humor! :p

Isn't "advisor" with a capital A capable of determining the integrity of studies and academic pursuit, being the top of the food chain and all?

Well, sometimes the Advisor is just the product of ten more years of staying up all night, getting high, watching infomercials, and writing a research grant proposal for 52 hours, the weekend before he/she is supposedto submit it...

But Christians haven't got a sense of humor! :p

Ok, I have to give you that one. Most christians can't take a joke at all.

But Christians haven't got a sense of humor! :p


Touche

Ok, I have to give you that one. Most christians can't take a joke at all.

Fair enough, but at least the joke-teller won't end up with a knife in his chest, unlike a certain other big-name religion much in the news these days.

But Christians haven't got a sense of humor! :p
..and how do you adjust your material for that, given a mixed audience?
Answer: homogenize, people, HOMOGENIZE! (fears pending legislation)

Also .... there was a REALLY good Duckman episode about this. Too bad i didn't memorize the jokes.

I know some good elephant jokes ... Oh wait!

Two peanuts were walking down der strasse ...
One was ASSAULTED ... peanut.
Teehee!
Or
(Prime) "My dog's got no nose!"
(Sub) "Well, how does he smell?"
(Prime & audience ...) Terrible!!

That more your temperature?
A good source is also Laffy Taffy wrappers. *thumbs up!*

Fair enough, but at least the joke-teller won't end up with a knife in his chest, unlike a certain other big-name religion much in the news these days.

true enough.

Well, sometimes the Advisor is just the product of ten more years of staying up all night, getting high, watching infomercials, and writing a research grant proposal for 52 hours, the weekend before he/she is supposedto submit it...
*nudge* ;)
I mean, A-dvisor. Ya know, like on the commercials on Sunday ... as the source of all truth ...
I like your description of it, though, especially given those other kickarse posts on that other thread.

Whoa whoa whoa...seriously...why are you guys jumping on this poster? So far I've only seen one person respond seriously to the OP.

nicely put..

i was an alter boy when i was a youngin,now i believe in something(not quite sure what..just something about being good)

to the poster...if you are happy and feel fullfilled...(insert your god here)bless you.

i am personally of no religous affiliation,but if it makes you happy and you have a positive outlook on your life..then good for you i say.

dont let anyone make you feel bad for what you feel,you could be right and me wrong about my beliefs,or viceversa,but they are your feelings and i have mine.

i hope you get to go to redrock,i heard the place is really awesome.i'd like to go there someday myself.(colorado?)
u2 played there years ago and i was suppose to go but i got in a car accident and broke my back.

p.s.
dont let anyone make you feel bad about your faith,i happen to believe differently then you,but i respect your decision to feel the way you do...just remember that others,like me do not share your faith,and i would like the same consideration.

if i could name one thing that turned me away was the "tolerant religion" of jesus being intolerant of anyone but them(kinda like radical islamists)

anywho...hope you have a chance to go to redrock,and i am happy you are happy.:)

*nudge* ;)
I mean, A-dvisor. Ya know, like on the commercials on Sunday ... as the source of all truth ...
I like your description of it, though, especially given those other kickarse posts on that other thread.

Oh, shit, sorry, I missed that. Well, they say some PhD advisors have definite God complexes...

Is Maoism like denim? I'm not into politics, but I like easy-to-remember rules.

:) :) :)

Oh, shit, sorry, I missed that. Well, they say some PhD advisors have definite God complexes...
Yow, you hit Pimp in NO TIME!!! Rock on! *bows*
Ya know, your posts make that discourse pretty funny, especially ...
sometimes the Advisor is just the product of ten more years of staying up all night, getting high, watching infomercials ...

Whoops, i hope i haven't presented your quotes in the wrong context.
:eek:
;)

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great.

That's so great. When I was 3, I had an imaginary friend that I loved too.

Well my humour sponge is dry and crusty - gotta go sleep it off a while.
It's been fun in jest.
Nightie y'all.

That's so great. When I was 3, I had an imaginary friend that I loved too.

Heh. Nice. And disturbingly true.... ¬_¬

As someone said, yes God is a pretty cool dude/ette; I just don't like the fan clubs...

Not a space man..!? Okay..

..he was a hippie space man! :eek:

So, in correction: Jesus is a hippie space man!

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

Good for you, and God bless you. I know over in Illinois they have church camp, I think it was in Champaign last year, called C.I.Y. (Christ In Youth). I know my step-daughters enjoyed it a lot this year, and they plan on going next year, too. Sounds like you really have your head on straight, and that is so rare in this day and age. Keep it up.

http://www.ciy.com/home/default.html

Satanism For the Win.

I hate how peoples views of Satanism are clouded, Its so crap that Christians tell me that im going to hell and tell me to read the bible, then when i say youve got the idea wrong read MY satanic bible, they get all huffy and on a powertrip.

Ohwell, cant expect too much from a facist religion like Christiantity can we?

Just incase you want to read up. Its not all bad, Or atall bad actually. It just tells you to be human. Thats it, Induldge in your instincts. Have fun.

:D ~Teald

Now that figures. There are a lot of truly sick people out there. Yes, indeed. Wait out there in my driveway while I start my car......

Good for you, and God bless you. I know over in Illinois they have church camp, I think it was in Champaign last year, called C.I.Y. (Christ In Youth). I know my step-daughters enjoyed it a lot this year, and they plan on going next year, too. Sounds like you really have your head on straight, and that is so rare in this day and age. Keep it up.

http://www.ciy.com/home/default.html

His head on straight? Well, if it were rotating or backwards i'd suppose they'd be exorsising him ;)

(I also take that as a quick ad hominen attack to those who believe differently...)

Now that figures. There are a lot of truly sick people out there. Yes, indeed. Wait out there in my driveway while I start my car......

*ahem* Didn't you just prove his point about your faith? :rolleyes:

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss


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No, it makes me depressed because of how easily the individual is impressed by some over hyped zealot hell bent on taking a generation and turning them into clueless zealots with more bigotry than <insert name of favourite facist dictator>

I swear, we need to have public floggings for ignorant religious types - make them realise the stupidity of their naivity and blind beliefs.

Right since i'm sure senseless violence will change their minds....pfft.

Right since i'm sure senseless violence will change their minds....pfft.

It might if done right.

"You've been VERY bad..."

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
Wait, why didn't anybody tell me that "crank" has been re-named "God"? How the hell am I supposed to keep up with trendy slang if you people don't help me out?!?

This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's.

This kind of thought makes me sad. I've had Christians tell me I'm so lucky to have the success that God has given me, stuff like that, but I find it really offensive. I've had academic success because my parents put effort into teaching me to read, count, understand mathematical concepts etc. at a very young age and made sure I always had books to read that would teach me something, because I put the effort into reading a lot and paying attention at school, and because I had good teachers, NOT because of some God. I don't understand why Christians can't take pride in their own achievements and have faith in their own abilities, rather than attributing their talents to a gift from God or whatever.

This kind of thought makes me sad. I've had Christians tell me I'm so lucky to have the success that God has given me, stuff like that, but I find it really offensive. I've had academic success because my parents put effort into teaching me to read, count, understand mathematical concepts etc. at a very young age and made sure I always had books to read that would teach me something, because I put the effort into reading a lot and paying attention at school, and because I had good teachers, NOT because of some God. I don't understand why Christians can't take pride in their own achievements and have faith in their own abilities, rather than attributing their talents to a gift from God or whatever.
I feel much the same way. Giving credit to God takes the credit away from where it should rightly fall: myself, my teachers, my family, and those who have helped me excell. I believe that people should take both responsibility and credit for their work.

That's basically what I posted earlier. Take pride in your own achievements, don't give God all the credit; you did it, not him! Your strength and abilities come from yourself, not some god. Really, it can do wonders for your self esteem.

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

I'm much older so I'm not in a youth group. But I am in a graduate student fellowship that I enjoy very much. The leadership team is very close and they are some of the best friends I have had.

That's basically what I posted earlier. Take pride in your own achievements, don't give God all the credit; you did it, not him! Your strength and abilities come from yourself, not some god. Really, it can do wonders for your self esteem.

Saying God helped you do it doesnt take away the fact that you did it. IE If you sat there and did nothing God wouldnt do it for you. Its like that story of a man stranded on a sinking ship but he thought "Its ok God will save me" and then he waited. A ship came to his resque but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the ship left and he waited. Then a helicopter came to his aid but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the helicopter left and he waited. Then the waters took over the ship and the guy drowned and when the guy met God in heaven he asked "God why didn't you save me" and God said "I sent a ship and a helicopter what more did you want?"

Saying God helped you do it doesnt take away the fact that you did it. IE If you sat there and did nothing God wouldnt do it for you. Its like that story of a man stranded on a sinking ship but he thought "Its ok God will save me" and then he waited. A ship came to his resque but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the ship left and he waited. Then a helicopter came to his aid but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the helicopter left and he waited. Then the waters took over the ship and the guy drowned and when the guy met God in heaven he asked "God why didn't you save me" and God said "I sent a ship and a helicopter what more did you want?"
Thats good. I always refer back to Philippians 4:13 that says "I can do all things through Him who strengthens me", notice how it doesn't say "sit around and whine while I wait for God to do something"

If you want something done, you have to do it yourself. God will provide you with strength, peace, love, comfort and maybe even wisdom. He isn't going to do it for you though, you have to do it. God helps those who help themselves.

If you want an A on a test then study, if you want strength and focus in your study then pray about it. It doesn't mean you don't have to focus or study, it just means that while you are you have the knowledge that you are going to get a little extra help.

Thats good. I always refer back to Philippians 4:13 that says "I can do all things through Him who strengthens me", notice how it doesn't say "sit around and whine while I wait for God to do something"

If you want something done, you have to do it yourself. God will provide you with strength, peace, love, comfort and maybe even wisdom. He isn't going to do it for you though, you have to do it. God helps those who help themselves.

If you want an A on a test then study, if you want strength and focus in your study then pray about it. It doesn't mean you don't have to focus or study, it just means that while you are you have the knowledge that you are going to get a little extra help.
Prayer is a funny little thing. The way I look at it is it gives you a focus. You put your desire into as concise a form as possible, and therefore have a better idea of how to achieve it. I don't see God being a huge part of it really.

Not to mention, I don't see how God can cope with all these disasters and "miracles" when he has to be at every sporting event, test, exam, paper, movie, play, etc.

Prayer is a funny little thing. The way I look at it is it gives you a focus. You put your desire into as concise a form as possible, and therefore have a better idea of how to achieve it. I don't see God being a huge part of it really.

Not to mention, I don't see how God can cope with all these disasters and "miracles" when he has to be at every sporting event, test, exam, paper, movie, play, etc.
Myself, I don't really see why God would bother creating intelligent life and giving it free will if He was planning to personally control the outcome of every English test and baseball game.

And give the kid a break...at least this wasn't a Jesussaves rant...


yeah but it came pretty close to one. I am not too worried about this kid, she is 16, growing up will help this little problem of hers.

Prayer is a funny little thing. The way I look at it is it gives you a focus. You put your desire into as concise a form as possible, and therefore have a better idea of how to achieve it. I don't see God being a huge part of it really.
Prayer does give me clarity, I do believe that God is there in a support role though.

Not to mention, I don't see how God can cope with all these disasters and "miracles" when he has to be at every sporting event, test, exam, paper, movie, play, etc.
because He can, He is God, we can't but He can.

Prayer does give me clarity, I do believe that God is there in a support role though.


because He can, He is God, we can't but He can.
people have actually heard me say things similar to a prayer and looked at me very oddly since they know I don't believe in God or typical prayer...but I figure it helps me see what my goal really is, and from there figure out a good course to take to get there.

that last part was more or less joking...but as bottle said, why would God give free will and intelligence if he is going to determine everything?

Want an A on that exam? Go study. Want to win the game? Practice your sport. I find it feels really good to know that you, and only you, got yourself that A or the win

people have actually heard me say things similar to a prayer and looked at me very oddly since they know I don't believe in God or typical prayer...but I figure it helps me see what my goal really is, and from there figure out a good course to take to get there.
yeah, I can agree with that, it's the same for me except I have a little of a spritual thing with it too.

that last part was more or less joking...but as bottle said, why would God give free will and intelligence if he is going to determine everything?
yeah, I get that from a lot of people, or the other side (often from the same people) "if God is so good then why do bad things happen?"

God isn't there to control everything (although He could) he is there to support you, kinda like your parents support you but don't control all your actions.

Want an A on that exam? Go study. Want to win the game? Practice your sport. I find it feels really good to know that you, and only you, got yourself that A or the win
exactly. I get so tired of people who don't do thier end of the job (ie study) and then get a bad result (like an F) and then blame God. "I prayed and he didn't make me pass"

I always feel like smacking them in the head and saying "maybe next time you should study more and pray less"

yeah, I can agree with that, it's the same for me except I have a little of a spritual thing with it too.

At times I think it would be easier to have that spiritual side...I've just found that I really don't believe it, so I can't just force it and pretend (damn parents making me so stubborn and hard headed and stuck on my values)


yeah, I get that from a lot of people, or the other side (often from the same people) "if God is so good then why do bad things happen?"

Bad things happen for the experience. they change who you are (what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, etc.). To tie these last two together, last may my 19 year old coworker and friend died from cancer (less than a month before her 20th). People (including her at some points) blamed God and were angry. However, up to the last day, when she didn't have the strength to speak, she still opened her eyes for the Lords Prayer. This is one of those times that faith would have made things easier. It clearly helped her deal with a hard situation...But alas, wether you believe in God or not, bad things make you who you are. When I look back on the worst moments of my life, I see that they have caused the changes that made me who I am now, and I like who I am. If people have to ask why bad things happen, then either they haven't had truly bad things happen, or they haven't taken the time to reflect back.

God isn't there to control everything (although He could) he is there to support you, kinda like your parents support you but don't control all your actions.
I like that way of looking at it.

Now that figures. There are a lot of truly sick people out there. Yes, indeed. Wait out there in my driveway while I start my car......


Hmm... How does my religion make me a sick person? Im afraid that.


*ahem* Didn't you just prove his point about your faith? :rolleyes:


Is correct... Open your eyes out of that small minded safty net you know as christianity and look at another view... I came into this conversation respecting the views of the other guy. I dont agree with them yeah, But makeing a direct attack on me in the name of your god is not cool...


:mad: ~Teald

you know. i have a friend who recently became very spiritual and, in my opinion, stupid. ditching his friends for youth group or church. dresses all trendy and stuff now, hangs with a different crowd, basically abondoned everything he was. and what is the worst, he suddendly became religious because a girl he liked was. he also turned vegetarian because of her. personally it makes me sick.

if you're gonna do something, do it for yourself, or at least for god.


personally i think religion is a waste of time. i think its possible theres a heaven or something, but, if you live a reasonably good life.. you'll be going there. if god is really such an ass as he wouldn't let you in because you didn't go to church or pray, i wouldn't just to spite him. he sure would be setting a great role model huh? he tells us to be forgiving and such, but there's all this stupid crap religion involves. it's not worth my time.

As someone said, yes God is a pretty cool dude/ette; I just don't like the fan clubs...


I like Jesus' style, but his followers are thick and ordinary. It's them twisting things that ruins it for me."

I think that's the quote.

Hmmm...

Christian: 'I went to this awesome religious retreat, had a great time, made some friends had some fun, felt loved. I had the best time of my life.'

Atheist: 'Your beliefs are stupid and untrue, you are nothing more than a brainwashed idiot, and you're happy!!?? You're not allowed to be happy, you're suppose to be as miserable, meaningless, and truthful as me and everyone else on this forum. How dare you be happy! I shall take this away from you as well, in the name of truth!'

And Nietzsche thought Christians were pessimistic nihilists...

Hmmm...

"Why do we use Avocado's Number?"

"To convert grams into guacaMoles"
Oh, GROAN! [ weeps ]

America's universities try to actually make money most of the time, so certain classes, like Economics and Biology, become mandatory to recieve credit for certain diplomas and whatnot. While others around the world just allow people to focous on their studies, and become very proficient in what they wish to do, become specialised. In America, you gotta learn a bunch of other crap before you can do that, extending the length of your studies and how much money the college gets.

That's what I think anyway.
Oh, yes! God forbid that you actually learn something outside your narrow little specialty! :rolleyes:

Man... it sounds like most everyone else's youth groups sucked. Mine was really very groovy. Really. Very. Groovy. Of course, I was raised Unitarian Universalist, and I grew up into the Unitarian youth group culture, the LRY (Liberal Religious Youth). If any of you ever read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, there's a chapter in there about some Californian Unitarian LRYers... and fans of Frederik Pohl will of course remember the Reverend Horny Hake, and the background noise of trouble with the Unitarian youth group. My region, the St. Lawrence District, included Southwestern Quebec, Upstate New York, and Southern Ontario - and it was a bit of a hotbed for such things as youth autonomy, political and social activism. Hand-in-hand with this went sexual permissiveness, rampant drug experimentation, occultism, and exploring different perspectives through comparative theology.

Eventually, all goods things must end, and by 1982 LRY had ceased to exist on a continental or national level, replaced by the far weaker organization, 'YRUU' (Young Religious Unitarian Universalists, a name coined by a delegate from Binghampton, New York, during a blazing hangover at a continental conference, and adopted, to his utter amazement). But the stroy of LRY didn't end there. Heavens, no.

Every district had to ratify the changeover from LRY to YRUU and our district refused to do so. We remained the sole enclave of LRY until 1989, when the UUA and the CUC started getting profoundly uptight and acted distinctly un-Unitarian and decreed our organization non-existant, then went on to ban the participation of the single-largest federated youth group in all of St. Lawrence District - the Toronto LRY. We were the last movers and shakers of what was once an incredibly vibrant, cool, honestly open and tolerant church youth group that knew no borders and pushed all limits.

And I will miss my youth group days immeasurably.

Hmmm...

Christian: 'I went to this awesome religious retreat, had a great time, made some friends had some fun, felt loved. I had the best time of my life.'

Atheist: 'Your beliefs are stupid and untrue, you are nothing more than a brainwashed idiot, and you're happy!!?? You're not allowed to be happy, you're suppose to be as miserable, meaningless, and truthful as me and everyone else on this forum. How dare you be happy! I shall take this away from you as well, in the name of truth!'

And Nietzsche thought Christians were pessimistic nihilists...

Hmmm...
Aieee! The cognitive dissonance! The cognitive dissonance! [ faints ]

Too bad there aren't any other LRYers around...

Real Christians use verses. Paragraphs are an abomination unto the Lord.

I went into a chapel at a hospital after I visited someone recently. There was no one there and I picked up a bible and opened to Leviticus, and of course, I read the entire chapter about semen. It's there- can't remember what chapter exactly. Just look for the chapter where every verse is about semen.

Oh, and then I went to get a drink from the vending machine, and I got a bottle of Dasani, tore the label off, got a piece of paper and a sharpie from the nurse's desk, and wrote "Holy Water" on the label. My idea of a fun atheist time :p

I haven't posted in like 9 pages so I thought would post, I just copied some quotes to a notepad and wrote the responce I was thinking of while I was reading all the pages, sorry for the long post, I hope you will find it kinda meaningful.


Back to the original post - I have to wonder about it. It seems to me to be written by a 8yr old, not a 16 yr old. The appalling grammar, lack of sentence structure and inability to combine ideas and threads coherently...
Wait a minute.
They're all typicalindicators of a born-again mind!
So maybe he is telling the truth

To tell you the truth I never got sentence structure, or paragraphs, I understand commas though, I am going for a science degree though not an english one, and it was funny, today when I was taking my Econ final I read the heading and it said Econ 261 not 231, I don't know if there even is a 231... Oh and I am definatly telling the truth, this Saturday we were supposed to go to Mt. Charleston, but it didn't snow (wow didn't see that coming). So instead we were going to go to Redrock, but that was overruled because Mike (our Youth leader) didn't want to, now we are going to clean the youth room (what fun), but actually I am looking forward to it.



What? Avogadro's Number is hilarious! I laugh everytime someone tries to remember the name and thinks of avocados instead. 2.066 * 10^23 FTW!

Isn't that 6.022 * 10^23? I have never thought of avacados, that is hilarious.



Obviously our universities are structured much differently to your "colleges" then. We have to specialise...

Are colleges just an extension of high school then? Come to think of it, my high school was referred to as a college.

I only go to a general college, CCSN (Community College of Southern Nevada), getting my basic classes done then I will transfer to a "specialised" school. I don't know which one though.


Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?

Maybe it isn't normal to take Chem and Econ, but I like to diversify (I am just going for general science courses), last simester I was taking Math 181 and before that I was taking Eng 102. I have been going to college since I was 14. But they thought it would be too much "strain" and so I couldn't take more then two classes a simester... I praise God that I have done so well thus far! I just took the Chem 121 final today, it is a national test so we as a nation can see how we are doing nationally, I cannot wait for the results.


That'd be courses GEN 619 through GEN 716.

I don't get it, I hope it isn't an unfunny/rude joke...


I never felt the need to join any youth group, and definatly not one of the religious ones. They seemed to me like brainwashing god loving sin hating bunch of imbecils. I'm not saying that you are an imbecil mind you, but that's the image i had of the local ones when i was a kid.

Hey thats cool, kinda how I thought about the "other" youth groups before we joined our new church. I didn't like the old ones, but I love the one I am in now, it is really awesome. And I do not think I am being brainwashed, but I guess the brainwashee never feels he is being victimized.



Satan worshipers.
Just incase you want to read up. Its not all bad, Or atall bad actually. It just tells you to be human. Thats it, Induldge in your instincts. Have fun.

I hope you find Jesus one day... You already know he is real, if you believe in the devil then you believe in God and Jesus, one of the most difficult things for Christians to accept is that God is real. You have already passed that hurdle, now you just have to come to realize that God loves you and that he wants you to love him and live forever in heaven with other people who truly love you as well.


No offense but to me it sounds like that youth group have brainwashed you.

No offense taken! I am quite certain I am not being brainwashed. I know what is going on around me and what is happening. God is truly awesome!


But Christians haven't got a sense of humor!

Sure they do! We have tons of fun! Next thursday we are going to go to do a living nativity scene, and then afterwards have a "lock in". That is where you stay up and party all night at the church, I have never done that before, but I am sure it will be alot of fun.


Whoa whoa whoa...seriously...why are you guys jumping on this poster? So far I've only seen one person respond seriously to the OP.

What is the OP? Who is jumping on who?


nicely put..

i was an alter boy when i was a youngin,now i believe in something(not quite sure what..just something about being good)

to the poster...if you are happy and feel fullfilled...(insert your god here)bless you.

i am personally of no religous affiliation,but if it makes you happy and you have a positive outlook on your life..then good for you i say.

dont let anyone make you feel bad for what you feel,you could be right and me wrong about my beliefs,or viceversa,but they are your feelings and i have mine.

i hope you get to go to redrock,i heard the place is really awesome.i'd like to go there someday myself.(colorado?)
u2 played there years ago and i was suppose to go but i got in a car accident and broke my back.

p.s.
dont let anyone make you feel bad about your faith,i happen to believe differently then you,but i respect your decision to feel the way you do...just remember that others,like me do not share your faith,and i would like the same consideration.

if i could name one thing that turned me away was the "tolerant religion" of jesus being intolerant of anyone but them(kinda like radical islamists)

anywho...hope you have a chance to go to redrock,and i am happy you are happy.

You sound like a really nice individual, the kind of person I was before I found my new church, a really nice guy but you don't really believe in God. I pray that that changes for you like it did for me! I used to feel just like you do, I however was jealous of the people who were content and happy, you sound like you are a Christian! I know I will get to go to Redrock, it is really cool, kinda like a less impressive version of Zion (if you ever went there), way more fun then the Grand Canyon, I didn't care much for the Grand Canyon, way to boring. I am sorry to hear that you broke your back, I think that I would be so depressed if I broke my back... I hope that me breaking my back isn't in God's will. I understand that you don't share my faith but I sincerly hope that you will one day, I wont condemn you however, but I will pray for you. Thank you for your support!


That's so great. When I was 3, I had an imaginary friend that I loved too.

I am sorry that you do not understand. I will pray for you too. I don't think I ever had an imaginary friend, I never needed one because I always had a sister (1.5 years younger then me).


As someone said, yes God is a pretty cool dude/ette; I just don't like the fan clubs...

You mean you love God but you don't like church? I love God, and I love church, my youth group included.


Good for you, and God bless you. I know over in Illinois they have church camp, I think it was in Champaign last year, called C.I.Y. (Christ In Youth). I know my step-daughters enjoyed it a lot this year, and they plan on going next year, too. Sounds like you really have your head on straight, and that is so rare in this day and age. Keep it up.

Thanks, This summer we are going to the national Baptist convention for high school age youth, kids from around the country are going to be there, it is expected that more then 1000 youth will be in attendance, it is going to be held in New Mexico (don't ask me why). The sad thing is that just six months ago I didn't have my head on straight, I am so thankful that even though I was so full of sin, God still loved me and saved me and proved his love to me.


I think mike wants to fuck all the kids

I hope that one day you experiance true love, for you to feel the way you do, something bad must have happened to you. I really hope that you were just being funny, but if you meant it enough to post it then I think that you might need some help. Jesus can help everything, and I will pray for you too. Mike is an awesome guy, I really look up to him.


This kind of thought makes me sad. I've had Christians tell me I'm so lucky to have the success that God has given me, stuff like that, but I find it really offensive. I've had academic success because my parents put effort into teaching me to read, count, understand mathematical concepts etc. at a very young age and made sure I always had books to read that would teach me something, because I put the effort into reading a lot and paying attention at school, and because I had good teachers, NOT because of some God. I don't understand why Christians can't take pride in their own achievements and have faith in their own abilities, rather than attributing their talents to a gift from God or whatever.

The reason that I am as intelligent as I am is because my parents (particularily my mother) and my grandfather taught me how to do things at an early age, I could read at three. I don't know exactly what they did, but my Grandfather is the type that would let me try things and experiance what would happen, instead of warning me and keeping me from them he would warn me and let me do what I thought best. None of us were Christians at the time, he was just doing what he thought best. My Grandfather started me off at fourth and fifth grade math even algebra when I was six, I was home schooled much of my life, but even when I wasn't taught at home they would teach me more stuff. I attribute alot of my intelligence on the fact that I never watch TV, I consider it a complete waste of time, that is probebly one of the things people find most amazing. My entire life I have been given full trust for about a year I was learning practially without a teacher at home to teach me, my Mom told me what to do and she was too busy to check what I had done, maybe once a week she would ask to see what we had done but it was often less often then that. Unfortunatly I abused that trust or else I would likely be more advanced then I am currently, For a major period of time I played my favorite game in the whole world "Diablo II" and was completely sucked into it. I would spend my whole day playing and would neglect my studys, my Mom would rarely find out and if she did think to check what I was doing I could simply get my note book and the answer book and copy down the answers, I was supposed to check my own work. I was given complete freedom and I abused it and I learned from my mistakes, I think that is what makes me smart, I would doubtlessly be more intelligent had I not wasted six months of my life, but I learned something from it. When I raise my kids they will be given responsibility and trust and they will learn the value of that trust and they will become good people because of that. That might not have too much to do with the quote I am quoting but I think that God stopped me from wasting my time, and I attribute all that I have (including my mind) to God. I do have pride in what I have done, but I do not feel myself superior to others because of what God has given me, I am so blessed, but we all are.


That's basically what I posted earlier. Take pride in your own achievements, don't give God all the credit; you did it, not him! Your strength and abilities come from yourself, not some god. Really, it can do wonders for your self esteem.

That is so ironic because just this june after having finished my Math 181 (Calculus) class when I was 15, not missing a single question in a single test/quiz/exam throughout the entire simester, I didn't have much self esteem, I was able to do well in class but that didn't mean anything to me I don't know why. But now that I know God and give it all to him I feel great, I love him so much, I was so miserable before even though I never knew it, and now I am ecstatic!


I'm much older so I'm not in a youth group. But I am in a graduate student fellowship that I enjoy very much. The leadership team is very close and they are some of the best friends I have had.

That is so awesome, I hope that once all the youth graduate they will continue to live here (I think most will) and we can continue to have fun and be good friends. That would be really awesome, unfortunatly I have some bad news that I need you Christians to pray for, you see Mike our youth leader is going to UNLV (University of Nevada, Las Vegas), and he has a class that falls on Wednesday when the youth meet, we are praying that someone will drop the same type of class so he can transfer to that one, and still lead us. We cannot reschedule the youth time (it is tied in with Awana) and he cannot take it at a different college and transfer, nor can he take it online. So we are praying for him and if you wanted too that would be awesome!


Saying God helped you do it doesnt take away the fact that you did it. IE If you sat there and did nothing God wouldnt do it for you. Its like that story of a man stranded on a sinking ship but he thought "Its ok God will save me" and then he waited. A ship came to his resque but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the ship left and he waited. Then a helicopter came to his aid but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the helicopter left and he waited. Then the waters took over the ship and the guy drowned and when the guy met God in heaven he asked "God why didn't you save me" and God said "I sent a ship and a helicopter what more did you want?"

I beleive that that is true, God will not often divinely intervene us (but he does at times preform miracles), he gives us the tools we need, and the brain we need to use them. He gave us the tools and the brain so in actuality he did it, and I love him so much for doing what he did for me!


Thats good. I always refer back to Philippians 4:13 that says "I can do all things through Him who strengthens me", notice how it doesn't say "sit around and whine while I wait for God to do something"

If you want something done, you have to do it yourself. God will provide you with strength, peace, love, comfort and maybe even wisdom. He isn't going to do it for you though, you have to do it. God helps those who help themselves.

If you want an A on a test then study, if you want strength and focus in your study then pray about it. It doesn't mean you don't have to focus or study, it just means that while you are you have the knowledge that you are going to get a little extra help.
That is definatly true. If you want an A then you have to study, I did last night, but the Chem final was ridiculously easy, I was preparing for a grueling test because it was the national test, I shouldn't have kidded myself. I thank God for connecting it all though and allowing me to remember little tidbits, I have the knowledge in my head, I have studied it and I thank God that he gave me the ability to remember it and interpret it and come up with and answer to write on the paper. Without God I would be nothing. He gave me everything I have.


Prayer is a funny little thing. The way I look at it is it gives you a focus. You put your desire into as concise a form as possible, and therefore have a better idea of how to achieve it. I don't see God being a huge part of it really.

Not to mention, I don't see how God can cope with all these disasters and "miracles" when he has to be at every sporting event, test, exam, paper, movie, play, etc.

The bible says that wherever two Christians meet God also is there. I believe that God is a huge part of it, the only part really. God created Earth, how can he not cope with a small minute part of it?


Myself, I don't really see why God would bother creating intelligent life and giving it free will if He was planning to personally control the outcome of every English test and baseball game.

He doesn't, your prayer to him is just you talking to him, it doesn't mean anything is going to happen, it is his will, that will be done.




"At least this isn't a jesus saves rant"

yeah but it came pretty close to one. I am not too worried about this kid, she is 16, growing up will help this little problem of hers.


Jesus does save, I am not here to rant, it would not save anyone, it would likely only drive people away. Don't worry about me I am 16, and I will remain loyal to God throughout my entire life, and BTW last time I checked I was a guy.


Prayer does give me clarity, I do believe that God is there in a support role though.

I think you might be mixing up prayer and meditation... In prayer God is 100%, I don't think meditation has anything to do with God.


Want an A on that exam? Go study. Want to win the game? Practice your sport. I find it feels really good to know that you, and only you, got yourself that A or the win

Funny, because I find it entirely different. Probebly because I do know and love God and you don't, I can completely understand what you are coming from though, if I got an A through cheating it would be nothing, but I don't consider praying to God a cheat.


exactly. I get so tired of people who don't do thier end of the job (ie study) and then get a bad result (like an F) and then blame God. "I prayed and he didn't make me pass"

Amen to that.

I always feel like smacking them in the head and saying "maybe next time you should study more and pray less"

I wouldn't advise them to do that, but they should definatly study more.


yeah, I get that from a lot of people, or the other side (often from the same people) "if God is so good then why do bad things happen?"

I have my own theory on that.


At times I think it would be easier to have that spiritual side...I've just found that I really don't believe it, so I can't just force it and pretend (damn parents making me so stubborn and hard headed and stuck on my values)

That was just how I felt four months ago.


you know. i have a friend who recently became very spiritual and, in my opinion, stupid. ditching his friends for youth group or church. dresses all trendy and stuff now, hangs with a different crowd, basically abondoned everything he was. and what is the worst, he suddendly became religious because a girl he liked was. he also turned vegetarian because of her. personally it makes me sick.

if you're gonna do something, do it for yourself, or at least for god.

personally i think religion is a waste of time. i think its possible theres a heaven or something, but, if you live a reasonably good life.. you'll be going there. if god is really such an ass as he wouldn't let you in because you didn't go to church or pray, i wouldn't just to spite him. he sure would be setting a great role model huh? he tells us to be forgiving and such, but there's all this stupid crap religion involves. it's not worth my time.
I think that it doesn't matter what gets you in religion as long as you truly believe in it. If his girlfriend showed him the truth and he understands now then what is wrong with that. It is wrong however for him to lie and just be there for her. I think that shows how much he loves her, why does it make you sick? I used to be sick about stuff like that, now I realize it was jealousy, I am not at all saying that is your reason for being sick.


I like Jesus' style, but his followers are thick and ordinary. It's them twisting things that ruins it for me."

I am saddened how the Catholics have twisted the bible's meaning. I am a baptist which pretty much means I believe strictly what the bible has in it. The Catholics have added/taken-away a great deal. I hope they will still go to heaven though (they probebly will). I just don't want Christianity/Catholicism to be synonyms.


Christian: 'I went to this awesome religious retreat, had a great time, made some friends had some fun, felt loved. I had the best time of my life.'

Atheist: 'Your beliefs are stupid and untrue, you are nothing more than a brainwashed idiot, and you're happy!!?? You're not allowed to be happy, you're suppose to be as miserable, meaningless, and truthful as me and everyone else on this forum. How dare you be happy! I shall take this away from you as well, in the name of truth!'

I feel just like that Christian, and I feel no contempt toward the Atheist, I think that the Atheist in this context seems jealous. He would love to feel secure and loved, but he feels he is above it. I was heading toward that myself I think, not that severe though. I would pray for the Atheist.

I just thought I would post my opinion about the stuff in here, I had no idea that this many people would be interested, I really don't know that much about the bible and its teachings, so I hope I haven't given any bad advice/thoughts, I really am only 16, born on May 4, 1989 (Oh yeah I got to see the '80s!), so I don't really know that much.


~Abyss

You're a good person Abyss, don't let the ideas of some of these people change you.

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
This brainwashing sure is happening at young ages these days. On a side note, there is a youth group that I do enjoy: They're 18-35 and aren't afraid of sin one little bit.:D

:cool:

Aieee! The cognitive dissonance! The cognitive dissonance! [ faints ]

On your feet soldier!

I hope that people aren't turned off by my long post and decide not to read/post in this topic, I really thought there would be more Christian/young people here. Well I guess it doesn't matter.

You're a good person Abyss, don't let the ideas of some of these people change you.

They wont turn me away from God, but they might change how I think, and my opinions.


~Abyss

I hope that people aren't turned off by my long post and decide not to read/post in this topic, I really thought there would be more Christian/young people here. Well I guess it doesn't matter.



They wont turn me away from God, but they might change how I think, and my opinions.


~Abyss
Ahh you mean more people that would accept what you say without as much argument

There are plenty of young people here but we tend to be a debate forum ... even if I agreed with you I would still argue a counterpoint stance ... thats how it works around here

I'm a buddhist Abyss, nice to meet you! *handshake* :D

I'm a buddhist Abyss, nice to meet you! *handshake* :D
And I am an agnostic atheist *shakes both your hands* nice to meet you both :fluffle:

Hmmm...

Christian: 'I went to this awesome religious retreat, had a great time, made some friends had some fun, felt loved. I had the best time of my life.'

Atheist: 'Your beliefs are stupid and untrue, you are nothing more than a brainwashed idiot, and you're happy!!?? You're not allowed to be happy, you're suppose to be as miserable, meaningless, and truthful as me and everyone else on this forum. How dare you be happy! I shall take this away from you as well, in the name of truth!'

And Nietzsche thought Christians were pessimistic nihilists...

Hmmm...

That's one way of looking at it. But it seems to promote the attitude that if you're not Christian, you're not truely happy, which I disagree with intensly. However you must see that when a religious person argues in favour of their religion and the non-religious argues against, fundamentally they are doing the same thing: trying to change the others beliefs. Though I would have to agree with you that Christians try to change others with happiness, and athiests try to change others with a lesser form of hate. Personally, I try to stray away from this, and use humor to prove a point. I assume that if I was Christian, I would still use humor to prove a different point.


You're a good person Abyss, don't let the ideas of some of these people change you.

People's goodness don't usually change with their beliefs. Becoming Christian does not make you a great person, and becoming athiest does not make you a bad one. This especially goes for public figures and popular people. I have seen enough of both types of conversions to know this. And at the end of the day, no one can possibly have their goodness changed from an internet Forum.


I am sorry that you do not understand. I will pray for you too. I don't think I ever had an imaginary friend, I never needed one because I always had a sister (1.5 years younger then me).

I understand enough to believe that your prayers will probably not affect me at all, but I appreciate the gesture. Thanks

Hmmm...

Christian: 'I went to this awesome religious retreat, had a great time, made some friends had some fun, felt loved. I had the best time of my life.'

Atheist: 'Your beliefs are stupid and untrue, you are nothing more than a brainwashed idiot, and you're happy!!?? You're not allowed to be happy, you're suppose to be as miserable, meaningless, and truthful as me and everyone else on this forum. How dare you be happy! I shall take this away from you as well, in the name of truth!'

And Nietzsche thought Christians were pessimistic nihilists...

Hmmm...



Thats a bit biased. Im pretty sure no one thinks like that on this forum. Stop hyping yourself up on neo-christianity and have a look at it from both sides.

When you see some dope randomly posting about how he loves some non-existent apparently sentinent being then people are gunna get a little bit..."What the hell? What a joke". Its a given, and its going to happen with everything eh?

responding to upwardthrust.

Don't worry, I don't attack athiests. Trust me. :D

To tell you the truth I never got sentence structure, or paragraphs, I understand commas though, I am going for a science degree though not an english one, and it was funny, today when I was taking my Econ final I read the heading and it said Econ 261 not 231, I don't know if there even is a 231... Oh and I am definatly telling the truth, this Saturday we were supposed to go to Mt. Charleston, but it didn't snow (wow didn't see that coming). So instead we were going to go to Redrock, but that was overruled because Mike (our Youth leader) didn't want to, now we are going to clean the youth room (what fun), but actually I am looking forward to it.


You dont understand commas.. .If you did. There would be full stops in there too. Thats just one, fucker long sentance. Cant breathe! >.<


I hope you find Jesus one day... You already know he is real, if you believe in the devil then you believe in God and Jesus, one of the most difficult things for Christians to accept is that God is real. You have already passed that hurdle, now you just have to come to realize that God loves you and that he wants you to love him and live forever in heaven with other people who truly love you as well.

Thats really quite funny. THIS IS WHY I SAY READ THE BOOK AND TEH WEBSITE... I never mention once that i worshipped Satan. This is all the Christians automatically properganerizing Satanists as being devil worshippers. Its cruel to us. Satanism is a Philosophy to live by, we do not belive Satan to be a living breathing being. He is a moral code. Not a lifeform. And he isnt what Christians say he is. Because that Satan is just used to scare you out of you mind... Fuck, you cant go around assumeing things and riding you high horse all the muther fucking time...

Here is an extract from the site:

"Religion is the most important thing in a person’s life. If electric trains are the most pervasive thing in one’s life, that is his religion. Anything can be a religion if it means a lot. If your present religion isn’t the most important thing in your life, then skip it. Find whatever impels you most and make that your religion.

Religions are easy to invent. Most traditional religions have little or nothing to do with reality, are dependent on obfuscation, interpretation, guilt, and unreasoning faith—some more than others. Since Satanism is essentially a religion of the self, it holds that the individual and his personal needs comes first. If that means playing with trains or spike-heeled shoes or singing in the bathtub, those are its sacraments and devotions. Taking inventory of old comic books is counting beads on a rosary, each book being a station of the cross."


I dropped my cross 2 years ago and i havent once looked back. I dont belive in Jesus or God. Yeah, I belive Jesus exsisted, But he wasnt supernatural, or the son of God, he was just a wise man living in that period of time. Wooptydoo.

~Teald

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

This is so very special for you.

but this is a debate forum. Expect flack.

responding to upwardthrust.

Don't worry, I don't attack athiests. Trust me. :D
best not I am ready both mentally and verbally to defend myself from the well know savagery of Buddhists
:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

This is so very special for you.

but this is a debate forum. Expect flack.
heheh I said the same thing :fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Hmm... How does my religion make me a sick person? Im afraid that.





Is correct... Open your eyes out of that small minded safty net you know as christianity and look at another view... I came into this conversation respecting the views of the other guy. I dont agree with them yeah, But makeing a direct attack on me in the name of your god is not cool...


:mad: ~Teald

It was an innocent post about someone who was very happy with the experience of returning from church camp, and you pop up with a few snide criticisms and a hotlink to the church of Satan. If you really respected the poster, you wouldn't have posted in this thread to begin with.

Give me a break.

His head on straight? Well, if it were rotating or backwards i'd suppose they'd be exorsising him ;)

(I also take that as a quick ad hominen attack to those who believe differently...)
I have video evidence to believe differently, on two counts:
Somewhere on tape i have a videotaped exorcism, where this dude's forehead split open and his skin took on an unusual ash pallor ... kinda like someone was tweaking the tint on the screen. The guy was a schizo, and he'd go into these rages of destruction in the household ... then some religion or another placated him a little while, then he got worse again. So they exorcised him, and all was fine for a little while ... until his nature(s) got the "best" of him, and he narfed down a bullet. All his wife could say was, "Hallelujah", as she watched him do it. I've got a cool song idea about it.
The other count, i also possess video footage of a guy who could spin his head around completely. The upper torso spine curvature gave him that ability, apparently - it was shaped like a question mark (without the point) ... and he didn't have any specific need for an exorcism. He was a f*cking laugh riot at parties with strangers though. That was on the rerun of Ripley's Believe It or Not this week, the version with that guy who played Superman.

Not on my salary he couldn't
Hahaha!
*FLORT*

This kind of thought makes me sad. I've had Christians tell me I'm so lucky to have the success that God has given me, stuff like that, but I find it really offensive. I've had academic success because my parents put effort into teaching me to read, count, understand mathematical concepts etc. at a very young age and made sure I always had books to read that would teach me something, because I put the effort into reading a lot and paying attention at school, and because I had good teachers, NOT because of some God. I don't understand why Christians can't take pride in their own achievements and have faith in their own abilities, rather than attributing their talents to a gift from God or whatever.
It purports that ever-useful defense of unaccountability for one's actions, better if you constantly profess to nothing being accomplished on your own merit or faculty.

Holy, holy ... you know, the guy that's ubiquitous and ready to pounce on you if you have a morally aberrant thought, that guy, trying to appease him.
"Can i get a witness?!" Yeah, witnesses.

Myself, I don't really see why God would bother creating intelligent life and giving it free will if He was planning to personally control the outcome of every English test and baseball game.
You have to look for "god" in the obvious places, you know, like a bush on fire or a giant storm in the sky. Or a good knuckleball or #2 graphite.
Oh well, just as long as you're afraid ....
as some guy in some movie said, "Power perceived is power acheived."

It should be noted how much free will, loving providence, and *DRAMA* are involved in this passage, as well. Read it some time, if it interests you enough!
I should also add that "god", on a wager with Satan, bereaved Job of home, hearth, and health, up to this point. Excellent contrast of faculty, i imagine.

JOB 40:6-7

KJ Then answered the LORD unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Gird up thy loins like a man: I will demand of thee, and declare thou onto me.

NIV The the LORD spoke to Job out ot he storm:
"Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and and you shall answer me.

Living Bible (Italicized in book) Then the LORD spoke to Job again from the whirlwind:
"Stand up like a man and brace yourself for battle.

NRSV Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind:
"Gird up your loins like a man;
I will question you, and you declare to me.

yeah but it came pretty close to one. I am not too worried about this kid, she is 16, growing up will help this little problem of hers.
...so, you're the love of $?

I always feel like smacking them in the head and saying "maybe next time you should study more and pray less"
Dontcha think that statement might be EXACTLY (more or less) what the poster you replied to was GETTING at ????

It was an innocent post about someone who was very happy with the experience of returning from church camp, and you pop up with a few snide criticisms and a hotlink to the church of Satan. If you really respected the poster, you wouldn't have posted in this thread to begin with.

Give me a break.

good point again,how many amongst us never went thru phases in life,particulary in there teens?

the teen years are difficult as it is,if someone at that age is happy,then i say god bless you(again..insert god here)and if it is a phase,then they went thru potentially angst filled years happy.
is that any different then the dissaffected youth in black and makeup(think goth)
so it is okay to be horribly unhappy and disenfranchised(yet somehow unique..funny how all the goths think they are so unique..yet all look and act alike)but it is wrong for a teen to be happy?

i was a horrible human being as a teen.i was mad i did not get enough attention from my family,and as a teen,i did unspeakably evil things to people in a immature act of look at me...i am mad i am not the center of attention...i am dissaffected and angry.

i truly hurt people i will never be able to make it up too...ever.

i was the alter boy,the darling little child...and my anger made me(or i let it)become very seriously maladjusted.i seriously hurt quite a few people..too this day if i go back to my town,people are politely ambivelent to me..out of fear of me,which sucks.

funny thing is,i was doing mushrooms with the usual suspects,and had an epiphany,i had just badly injured a friend to look tough and cool,and was overcome by a feeling of guilt and..damn i am a scumbag.

i promised myself i would never be that person again...and people are still..20 years later..afraid of me.
so it was in retrospect..better if i had been some brainwashed jesus freak(and never hurt this person)then learned as i got older that god is in you..how you treat/behave and then drifted away from the cult of religion..then believing in the cult of despair and anger and bitterness.

you can always wake from the slumber of youth..but certain things you can never take back.
better to be brainwashed good then bad i guess.

so enjoy your faith,maybe you will be a pious and good person all your life.
better then being wracked with guilt when your eyes open from being shitty.

whats the worse that can happen..another good person?

better to realize that organized religion is foolish(as you grow up)..yet be good all the while,then be a shit and then realize.

i am personally never going to be right with myself for my actions as a youth,so my advice is to feel the love your getting,share it..but always have a jaded eye on who is telling you how to live.

and lastly...dont judge others on their lack or different faiths.

rant off...sorry:fluffle:

I went into a chapel at a hospital after I visited someone recently. There was no one there and I picked up a bible and opened to Leviticus, and of course, I read the entire chapter about semen. It's there- can't remember what chapter exactly. Just look for the chapter where every verse is about semen.

Oh, and then I went to get a drink from the vending machine, and I got a bottle of Dasani, tore the label off, got a piece of paper and a sharpie from the nurse's desk, and wrote "Holy Water" on the label. My idea of a fun atheist time :p
Good nationname ya got there!!!
BTW, are you talking about Onan spurting out on the ground so his brothers' wife didn't bear child?
Coitus interruptus, yaay!!

It was an innocent post about someone who was very happy with the experience of returning from church camp, and you pop up with a few snide criticisms and a hotlink to the church of Satan. If you really respected the poster, you wouldn't have posted in this thread to begin with.

Give me a break.

good point again,how many amongst us never went thru phases in life,particulary in there teens?

the teen years are difficult as it is,if someone at that age is happy,then i say god bless you(again..insert god here)and if it is a phase,then they went thru potentially angst filled years happy.
is that any different then the dissaffected youth in black and makeup(think goth)
so it is okay to be horribly unhappy and disenfranchised(yet somehow unique..funny how all the goths think they are so unique..yet all look and act alike)but it is wrong for a teen to be happy?

i was a horrible human being as a teen.i was mad i did not get enough attention from my family,and as a teen,i did unspeakably evil things to people in a immature act of look at me...i am mad i am not the center of attention...i am dissaffected and angry.

i truly hurt people i will never be able to make it up too...ever.

i was the alter boy,the darling little child...and my anger made me(or i let it)become very seriously maladjusted.i seriously hurt quite a few people..too this day if i go back to my town,people are politely ambivelent to me..out of fear of me,which sucks.

funny thing is,i was doing mushrooms with the usual suspects,and had an epiphany,i had just badly injured a friend to look tough and cool,and was overcome by a feeling of guilt and..damn i am a scumbag.

i promised myself i would never be that person again...and people are still..20 years later..afraid of me.
so it was in retrospect..better if i had been some brainwashed jesus freak(and never hurt this person)then learned as i got older that god is in you..how you treat/behave and then drifted away from the cult of religion..then believing in the cult of despair and anger and bitterness.

you can always wake from the slumber of youth..but certain things you can never take back.
better to be brainwashed good then bad i guess.

so enjoy your faith,maybe you will be a pious and good person all your life.
better then being wracked with guilt when your eyes open from being shitty.

whats the worse that can happen..another good person?

better to realize that organized religion is foolish(as you grow up)..yet be good all the while,then be a shit and then realize.

i am personally never going to be right with myself for my actions as a youth,so my advice is to feel the love your getting,share it..but always have a jaded eye on who is telling you how to live.

and lastly...dont judge others on their lack or different faiths.

rant off...sorry:fluffle:

and to the poster that said"i had an imaginary friend when i was 3"
true enough,having faith is like an imaginary friend..lol..how true..thats why i am ambivalent about any religion.
yet i prefer an imaginary friend that is kind and not malicous over any other so called being.
simply put..some people..especially teens need something bigger then them in there life,and they will grow to learn the lies and contradictions...better to be something good then despair and anger..no?

just my 2 cents.

I don't get it, I hope it isn't an unfunny/rude joke...

~Abyss
It's not funny if someone has to explain it :rolleyes:

So, as other posters have implied, if you do a little work on it and ask god's help, victory will be yours in understanding it.

EDIT: You know, upon reflection, although i find your posts dubious due to the timeframe involved ... i've concluded that i'm not being helpful, so here's a little more:
CONTEXT.

As in, why is that the only reply you have? I've posted much more .... hmmm.
It's right there anyway.

I loved my youth group too. We played strip poker and learned all about sexuality, including useful things like which methods of contraception work best, and we played silent football (which is nothing like actual football, in fact, it's much funnier) did a host of other things.

We did spiritual stuff, too, of course. And had discussions about our various beliefs, what was going on in national and international affairs, and went on retreats for the fun of it all. Those were the days.

And by the way, I'm not being sarcastic, I am entirely serious. Just recounting my memories of church youth group.

It was an innocent post about someone who was very happy with the experience of returning from church camp, and you pop up with a few snide criticisms and a hotlink to the church of Satan. If you really respected the poster, you wouldn't have posted in this thread to begin with.

Give me a break.


Why do you guys keep confirming my posts. You obviously haev no intention whatsoever to actuallly read any of it, so i dont care anymore. And yes, i did feel offended by the deliberate attack of someone saying the equvilent that im sick and they want to hurt me.
My post about the Church of Satan was just another post like "Oh im a Buddhist", Im proud of my religion and i wanted to show people theres another side to all of this. Its unfortunate that people wont take the time to read the "Satanic Bible" because the truths in there are shocking. Yeah, Maybe i am clouded in my views. But being a Satanist has made me a better person, Its cleard up my head. I used to be a reckless teen who's main goal in life was to be an asshole. But Satanism corrected me, and im sorry if i just wanted to show people my Religion. Jeez.

~Teald

Good nationname ya got there!!!
BTW, are you talking about Onan spurting out on the ground so his brothers' wife didn't bear child?
Coitus interruptus, yaay!!

thanks for the nod at the name- the passages I came across (haha, came...irony...that is to say, the passages I read and not the passages I ejaculated onto) were not specifically referring to any one biblical character. They were more or less guidelines about what a person must do in the event of getting splooged upon. It required a lot of bathing. but a side note- Revelations is the best chapter to ejaculate onto. Lots of pages. :p

I'm a buddhist Abyss, nice to meet you! *handshake*

Nice to meet you, do you have a youth group? I do not know how Buddhists fellowship goes.


And I am an agnostic atheist *shakes both your hands* nice to meet you both

Nice to meet you too, if you were in my city I would invite you to my church. It really is a great place.


I understand enough to believe that your prayers will probably not affect me at all, but I appreciate the gesture. Thanks

No problem, as long as you keep an open mind I will be happy to pray for you.


Thats a bit biased. Im pretty sure no one thinks like that on this forum. Stop hyping yourself up on neo-christianity and have a look at it from both sides.

I saw some other topics that had posts a bit like that, fortunatly no one posted like that in this topic.

To tell you the truth I never got sentence structure, or paragraphs, I understand commas though, I am going for a science degree though not an english one, and it was funny, today when I was taking my Econ final I read the heading and it said Econ 261 not 231, I don't know if there even is a 231... Oh and I am definatly telling the truth, this Saturday we were supposed to go to Mt. Charleston, but it didn't snow (wow didn't see that coming). So instead we were going to go to Redrock, but that was overruled because Mike (our Youth leader) didn't want to, now we are going to clean the youth room (what fun), but actually I am looking forward to it.

You dont understand commas.. .If you did. There would be full stops in there too. Thats just one, fucker long sentance. Cant breathe! >.<

There is actually one more period in there, but I admit that I could have reread it and fixed it up.


Thats really quite funny. THIS IS WHY I SAY READ THE BOOK AND TEH WEBSITE... I never mention once that i worshipped Satan.

Well I am not going into the website, but I guess that makes sense, why would Satan want them to openly praise him, he is always in the shadows. By worshiping yourself you are indirectly worshiping your sins, and therefore worshiping Satan, and you don't even know it. It is pretty amazing how devious he is, if he wanted you to believe he existed then you would have to believe in God too. And my comment would be put in action. I will pray for you too.


~Abyss

Well I am not going into the website, but I guess that makes sense, why would Satan want them to openly praise him, he is always in the shadows. By worshiping yourself you are indirectly worshiping your sins, and therefore worshiping Satan, and you don't even know it. It is pretty amazing how devious he is, if he wanted you to believe he existed then you would have to believe in God too. And my comment would be put in action. I will pray for you too.


~Abyss

I don´t think you will understand it unless you go into the page.
Making logical leaps, however magnificiently big they are just isn´t very bright.

Oh, and i have gone to some sort of lutheran youth group. Kinda fun, but not because of the religious stuff.

What? Avogadro's Number is hilarious! I laugh everytime someone tries to remember the name and thinks of avocados instead. 2.066 * 10^23 FTW!

Anyway, to get further off-topic, does anyone else like avocados?
Avogadro's number is 6.02 * 10^23, not 2.066 * 10^23.

(This isn't directed at you, but it seems that a lot of people here trumpet their being 'learned' as why they reject religion...and yet they didn't catch this error, save for one person.)
Anything over 400 is grad school in some systems. And 716 is "Independent Research Seminar" which is code for "stay up all night, get high, watch infomercials, and then write your thesis in 52 consecutive hours the weekend before your Advisor wants to see it"
Zooooom.
A heretic cannot be catholic.
Considering the Catholic Church has officially recognized evolution and declared Genesis as to be taken non-literally...
No, it makes me depressed because of how easily the individual is impressed by some over hyped zealot hell bent on taking a generation and turning them into clueless zealots with more bigotry than <insert name of favourite facist dictator>

I swear, we need to have public floggings for ignorant religious types - make them realise the stupidity of their naivity and blind beliefs.
Okie-dokie. Just as long as there are public floggings for the hypocritical irreligious types.
That's so great. When I was 3, I had an imaginary friend that I loved too.
Ooooh, zing! :rolleyes:
Back to the original post - I have to wonder about it. It seems to me to be written by a 8yr old, not a 16 yr old. The appalling grammar, lack of sentence structure and inability to combine ideas and threads coherently...
Wait a minute.
They're all typicalindicators of a born-again mind!
So maybe he is telling the truth
Mmm-hmm. Yeppers. *Looks over Demented Hamsters' post again.*

Hey, we might have a budding Christian on our hands...

Is correct... Open your eyes out of that small minded safty net you know as christianity and look at another view... I came into this conversation respecting the views of the other guy. I dont agree with them yeah, But makeing a direct attack on me in the name of your god is not cool...


:mad: ~Teald Yes, I've had a look around Satanic stuff. I came to the conclusion that a world full of pride, egotism and "the brutal religion of élitism and social Darwinism" isn't a very fun world.

By the way, the Satanic Church is incredibly hypocritical. Firstly they make a commandment not to be pretentious, and then they go and make up titles like "Magus" and "High Priestess".

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss
I'm sorry to tell you that most NS players are atheists, I did the poll myself. However, I am a believer, and I am very happy for you.

This is so very special for you.

but this is a debate forum. Expect flack.

I am not discouraged in any way by the comments I have recieved. I enjoy telling people my story, and praying for them, I hope that more then one person comes to know God, even if the chances are low.


It was an innocent post about someone who was very happy with the experience of returning from church camp, and you pop up with a few snide criticisms and a hotlink to the church of Satan. If you really respected the poster, you wouldn't have posted in this thread to begin with.

Give me a break.

Thank you very much for defending me, but it is completely fine, and I don't think he is attacking you. The thing is that I do not mind the truth, and the truth is that some people worship Satan (if indirectly), I will be happy to pray for them but they shouldn't be barred from posting. The post that angers me most is the one where the guy said "I think Mike wants to do bad things with the kids" that is really disrespectful and is meaningless, so why post it?


Making logical leaps, however magnificiently big they are just isn´t very bright.

If I will not go into the page then I will be forced to make logical leaps, why do you call yourselves Satanic, unless you indirectly worship Satan?


Avogadro's number is 6.02 * 10^23, not 2.066 * 10^23.

(This isn't directed at you, but it seems that a lot of people here trumpet their being 'learned' as why they reject religion...and yet they didn't catch this error, save for one person.)

They may not be scientifically learned. I caught the error, because I have been studying the stuff for the past 5 months. But that really isn't what this thread is about.


Considering the Catholic Church has officially recognized evolution and declared Genesis as to be taken non-literally...

I didn't know that, but I can believe it.


Hey, we might have a budding Christian on our hands...

You betcha do.


Yes, I've had a look around Satanic stuff. I came to the conclusion that a world full of pride, egotism and "the brutal religion of élitism and social Darwinism" isn't a very fun world.



The satanic church stands for what Satan stands for.


I'm sorry to tell you that most NS players are atheists, I did the poll myself. However, I am a believer, and I am very happy for you.

I know that, but I want to make this a place that Christians can recall the fun they have had at church. And maybe an athiest will want to try it out.


~Abyss

Well I am not going into the website, but I guess that makes sense, why would Satan want them to openly praise him, he is always in the shadows. By worshiping yourself you are indirectly worshiping your sins, and therefore worshiping Satan, and you don't even know it. It is pretty amazing how devious he is, if he wanted you to believe he existed then you would have to believe in God too. And my comment would be put in action. I will pray for you too.



1. If you dont go to the website you have no grounds to make judgements.
2. Yes i do worship myself and my "sins". Because each and every one of your so called "Sins" lead to emotional and physical gratification.

-Number 8 of the 9 Satanic Statements:
8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

Think about it,

1. Pride (Whats wrong with haveing a little pride?)
2. Avarice (Greed) (So what? Power? Money? All good)
3. Envy (Envy is just respecting and wanting something someone else have, it motivates us into working for our needs)
4. Wrath (If someone wrongs you. Be wrathful, they deserve it)
5. Lust (Everyone loves a good bit of lust :p )
6. Gluttony (Indulge as much as you want... If you get fat its your own fault. But as a satanist we wouldnt care, because either you do something about it and not complain, or dont and not complain)
7. Sloth (Lazyness = Teh good)


3. Please dont pray for me, Its wasted.



Yes, I've had a look around Satanic stuff. I came to the conclusion that a world full of pride, egotism and "the brutal religion of élitism and social Darwinism" isn't a very fun world.

By the way, the Satanic Church is incredibly hypocritical. Firstly they make a commandment not to be pretentious, and then they go and make up titles like "Magus" and "High Priestess".



Well we are told not to be pretentious but everyone needs a little ranking. It doesnt make anyone better than another. It just gives certain people abilities to teach others (not that we cant, but they can run grottos). No one is limited to do anything. People who achive these titles are people who themselves have made a great contribution to the religion.

And yes, we are ego centric. But we look out for the people worth looking out for.

~Teald

1. Pride (Whats wrong with haveing a little pride?) Pride by its very nature does not stop at "a little".
2. Avarice (Greed) (So what? Power? Money? All good) Yes, Stalin was such a great human being.
3. Envy (Envy is just respecting and wanting something someone else have, it motivates us into working for our needs)7. Sloth (Lazyness = Teh good) Don't these two add up to theft?
4. Wrath (If someone wrongs you. Be wrathful, they deserve it) Yep, the Germans wronged the Russians, they deserved to be tortured, raped and murdered. Sure.
5. Lust (Everyone loves a good bit of lust :p ) Yep, viewing other people as objects - all good.
6. Gluttony (Indulge as much as you want... If you get fat its your own fault. But as a satanist we wouldnt care, because either you do something about it and not complain, or dont and not complain) Fair enough.

Pride by its very nature does not stop at "a little".


Maybe it doesnt for you, but some of us have self control.


Yes, Stalin was such a great human being.


That would be mildly ammusing if i wasnt a Marxist. I personally belive we should live in a world without money. But for now whilst we are stuck here we need to make the most of it and help each other. Exercise self restraint.


Don't these two add up to theft?


Only if your a criminal.


Yep, the Germans wronged the Russians, they deserved to be tortured, raped and murdered. Sure.


Someone likes to take things past a personal religion dont they.


Yep, viewing other people as objects - all good.
Fair enough.

Dont know where this came from. Lust in my eyes is just haveing a desire for something.



In the long run of your comments, they, at the most, seem pretty invalid. Satanism is a set of moral codes for you to live by. A "Personal" religion. You seem to be big on "watering the plant" a little too much. You take it to a certain point. Satanists know theivery is wrong. Because it wont benifit us in the long term, which is what directs our actions. You'll end up in prison. Thats not a good thing.

~Teald

1. Pride (Whats wrong with haveing a little pride?)Pride by its very nature does not stop at "a little".I have a great deal of pride. I'm proud of the person I am, I'm proud of the life I lead and the things I have accomplished. Without pride, how can there be self-respect & responsibility?2. Avarice (Greed) (So what? Power? Money? All good)Yes, Stalin was such a great human being.Wouldn't Ronald McDonald have been a better example? Anyway, anything is bad if taken to the extreme. Including intellectual smugness.3. Envy (Envy is just respecting and wanting something someone else have, it motivates us into working for our needs)

7. Sloth (Lazyness = Teh good)Don't these two add up to theft?Let's see.. Working 12 hours so you too can pay for your kid's internet connection, and then ordering the kid to do the dishes, 'cos you're too lazy when you get home, and rather want to watch the news...
How's that stealing?4. Wrath (If someone wrongs you. Be wrathful, they deserve it)Yep, the Germans wronged the Russians, they deserved to be tortured, raped and murdered. Sure.Remember that next time someone clubbers you for being a smartass.5. Lust (Everyone loves a good bit of lust )Yep, viewing other people as objects - all good.Yes.. Because either you love someone you're not attracted to, or you're attracted to someone you don't love. A combination isn't possible. Thank Dog for that.

NB: I don't advocate Satanism. I think the 'religion' is a joke.. But that response was a fucking joke too, and a much worse one.

I don't advocate Satanism. I think the 'religion' is a joke.. But that response was a fucking joke too, and a much worse one.




Completly fair, I dont expect everyone will like it. But you got across the point that takeing it to the extreme just clouds everything... thats what i was trying to say ^^;. Thanks

~Teald

I'm going to lie and pretend I'm an overly religious person, although I am definetely somewhat religious and do believe in God. I just don't advertise it because life experiences have taught me that shoving God in people's face is the most effective way to chase people away from Him. I just stay respectful of people's right to worship as they choose and hope they'll become believers one of these days.

I'm going to lie and pretend I'm an overly religious person, although I am definetely somewhat religious and do believe in God. I just don't advertise it because life experiences have taught me that shoving God in people's face is the most effective way to chase people away from Him. I just stay respectful of people's right to worship as they choose and hope they'll become believers one of these days.


I think thats what made me drop the religion

I was forced into church for around 13 years and was made to be confirmed. I hated every second of it... Had to go to what some people call "Ventures". It was terrible. I think the icing on the cake was the evangelical people at my school demanding me to go to Christian Union. Ohwell. not that i care.

But yeah. Forcing a ANY religion into someones face is a bad way to go about it. Youneed to let them find there legs.

No one will respect you if you command them to convert or burn in hell, and if they don't respect you they will not respect your religion. If you engage in any of the "satanistic commandments" then you will get superficial physical mental and emotional gratification, that will make you happy for a short period of time, and then make you climb again to regain that high you once had. That is not happyness, that is being confused. I am a very happy person.


~Abyss

No one will respect you if you command them to convert or burn in hell, and if they don't respect you they will not respect your religion. If you engage in any of the "satanistic commandments" then you will get superficial physical mental and emotional gratification, that will make you happy for a short period of time, and then make you climb again to regain that high you once had. That is not happyness, that is being confused. I am a very happy person.


~Abyss

hope i aint sounding trite?

but please,be decent to your fellow man and it is a no brainer to me..but i am stupid i guess.

satan crap is just that...a real satanist would sell you on the theory of personall indulgence,you know...we are here and turn to worms when we die.

that mentality is a depressed outylook in my opinion.

i aint your faith,but i would rather believe in something positive and good,then cry and want attention that my world sucks...lol...kinda telllling...the person that hates good and decent things,,,is the person that needs it most.

but as a friend,please dont convert me..ok...i been there and done that...i l ike to see people smile....does satan...lol...what a fuckin joke...half the satan asholes are trying to piss off there parents,i am a bit old for that.

go have fun and love your life...let the satanists wallow in their own self pity.

they will hate you...but fuck em...dumb ass wana be's trying to be special...which is another can of worms.

no different then the goths i saw all saying how unique they were...no different then(each other)and the god people....comical if you ask me...but have fun,and be clearminded,unlike the wanna be's

if your a god freak...ok...just dont judge others until your like me...and realize they are all laughable...lol

jesus freaks and the satanist twits...all a fools game.

So you love God. Nice. There are worse things than that.

You love your youth group? That's okay. Other people would just say they like hanging out with their friends.

Then that football and school stuff - well, I couldn't really follow.

Then again, I just couldn't care less.

...This is such an obvious bait thread. How does it already have 12 pages of arguments. Are you all blind?

Maybe it doesnt for you, but some of us have self control. Pride can mean many different things... the meaning of the word in the "seven sins" is hubris.



That would be mildly ammusing if i wasnt a Marxist. I personally belive we should live in a world without money. But for now whilst we are stuck here we need to make the most of it and help each other. Exercise self restraint. Greed... self-restraint... they don't really go well together.



Only if your a criminal. Envy is wanting that which doesn't belong to you. Stealing is taking that which doesn't belong to you. If you're too lazy to actually work for what you want from someone else, how else are you going to get it?



Someone likes to take things past a personal religion dont they. ??? I have no idea what you mean here. I was using the example of what revenge and hatred have led to in history. I could also point to Israel and Palestine, and all the bombings there.



Dont know where this came from. Lust in my eyes is just haveing a desire for something. n.
Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.
An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.
Obsolete. Pleasure; relish.

intr.v. lust·ed, lust·ing, lusts
To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual. A bit more than that. Intense and obsessive, no less.



In the long run of your comments, they, at the most, seem pretty invalid. Satanism is a set of moral codes for you to live by. A "Personal" religion. You seem to be big on "watering the plant" a little too much. You take it to a certain point. Satanists know theivery is wrong. Because it wont benifit us in the long term, which is what directs our actions. You'll end up in prison. Thats not a good thing.

~Teald No, crime does benefit you if you manage to pull it off. Many of the famous figures in history are great criminals.

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are you being sarcastic? seriously. i have nothing else to say to this other than it gives me this strong urge to go drink. heavily. and then some.

Good for you.

are you being sarcastic? seriously. i have nothing else to say to this other than it gives me this strong urge to go drink. heavily. and then some.

Mind if I join you? I can bring peanuts...

Mind if I join you? I can bring peanuts...
w00t. i've been far too sober recently. how far is it to morphettville for you? it's near glenelg

w00t. i've been far too sober recently. how far is it to morphettville for you? it's near glenelg

Don't know. I'm in Gillies Plains. How far is that from Morphettville?

Don't know. I'm in Gillies Plains. How far is that from Morphettville?
no idea, will check on whereis.com.au. you want to be around drunk people? seems surprising after looking at your profile.
EDIT: according to whereis.com.au i live around 10k south-west of adelaide and you live around 10k north-east of adelaide

No offense but to me it sounds like that youth group have brainwashed you.
Just my sentiments. Yet another youth subverted to have more mindless goons for re-electing Bush's Christian right-wing party :mad:
I'm just glad I made my country atheist! :D

Already heard this one?
Jesus saves - his Bank has a high interest :D

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5518/jesuslovesyoueveryoneelsespork.jpg

Just my sentiments. Yet another youth subverted to have more mindless goons for re-electing Bush's Christian right-wing party :mad:
I'm just glad I made my country atheist! :D

Already heard this one?
Jesus saves - his Bank has a high interest :D

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5518/jesuslovesyoueveryoneelsespork.jpg
jesus saves, passes to moses, SCORES!!!
jesus saves, takes half damage
jesus doesn't love me, he just wants me for sex
:p

Meh, I started uni when I was 17.

HEY! SO WILL I! :P


on the topic of the original post, I find it extremely sad and hypocritical that he/she used "OMG"...

no idea, will check on whereis.com.au. you want to be around drunk people? seems surprising after looking at your profile.
EDIT: according to whereis.com.au i live around 10k south-west of adelaide and you live around 10k north-east of adelaide

After looking at your profile you seem like the type of drunk I get along with.

HEY! SO WILL I! :P


on the topic of the original post, I find it extremely sad and hypocritical that he/she used "OMG"...

I concur. I also find it sadder that no-one else picked it up before you. Although possibly no-one else could physically stomach reading that far. Kudos to you and your strong, strong stomach.

jesus saves, passes to moses, SCORES!!!
jesus saves, takes half damage
jesus doesn't love me, he just wants me for sex
:p
hahaha

jesus doesn't love me, he just wants me for sex

Ah yes, remniscient of The Exorcist
:eek:

You people are weird.:mp5:
:sniper:
:gundge:

Did I say OMG? I shouldn't have I guess. It could mean "Oh my gosh" though... What is a bait thread? what about me is weird?

are you being sarcastic? seriously. i have nothing else to say to this other than it gives me this strong urge to go drink. heavily. and then some.

You snipped my whole post lol.


~Abyss

Did I say OMG? I shouldn't have I guess. It could mean "Oh my gosh" though... What is a bait thread? what about me is weird?You should've said "OMFG!" :D

And as for the "weird" part: No, you are not wierd. Unless you're a religious fundamentalist.

Hmmm... I suspect your youth group is a christian fundamentalist terrorism group... jk :D

So does anyone else have a curiosity as to what else Abyssilian Nuclia might find enough interest here to post about?
*nods in direction of Find All Posts option ....*

Ok, starting this off with a reply to...

No one will respect you if you command them to convert or burn in hell, and if they don't respect you they will not respect your religion. If you engage in any of the "satanistic commandments" then you will get superficial physical mental and emotional gratification, that will make you happy for a short period of time, and then make you climb again to regain that high you once had. That is not happyness, that is being confused. I am a very happy person.


~Abyss

Its the eye of the beholder. I dont think its superficial atall. Ive been happy since i discovered satanism, so we will see eh?. Dont call me confused its arrogant. Maybe you are happy. But so am i.

~Teald.


And now a reply to this...

hope i aint sounding trite?

but please,be decent to your fellow man and it is a no brainer to me..but i am stupid i guess.

satan crap is just that...a real satanist would sell you on the theory of personall indulgence,you know...we are here and turn to worms when we die.

that mentality is a depressed outylook in my opinion.

i aint your faith,but i would rather believe in something positive and good,then cry and want attention that my world sucks...lol...kinda telllling...the person that hates good and decent things,,,is the person that needs it most.

but as a friend,please dont convert me..ok...i been there and done that...i l ike to see people smile....does satan...lol...what a fuckin joke...half the satan asholes are trying to piss off there parents,i am a bit old for that.

go have fun and love your life...let the satanists wallow in their own self pity.

they will hate you...but fuck em...dumb ass wana be's trying to be special...which is another can of worms.

no different then the goths i saw all saying how unique they were...no different then(each other)and the god people....comical if you ask me...but have fun,and be clearminded,unlike the wanna be's

if your a god freak...ok...just dont judge others until your like me...and realize they are all laughable...lol

Maybe you see it as a depressed outlook. I was depressed before i became a satanist. I am now on top of the world. Because i am great. "Wallowing in my selfpity"... No thanks.
If your a bit old for pissing off your parents learn to type. Im not trying to piss of my parents. My Mum excepts that im a Satanist and is whole heartly supporting my pursuit of it.
I like to see someone smile as much as the next person. What i dont like to see is someone flameing me because there clouded views of satan gets up there ass every time someone mentions his name.
On an end note to this reply, I love my life, I love my religion, I love my girlfriend, I love my family. And ive never been this happy.

~Teald

...Next...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teald
Maybe it doesnt for you, but some of us have self control.

Pride can mean many different things... the meaning of the word in the "seven sins" is hubris.




Quote:
That would be mildly ammusing if i wasnt a Marxist. I personally belive we should live in a world without money. But for now whilst we are stuck here we need to make the most of it and help each other. Exercise self restraint.

Greed... self-restraint... they don't really go well together.




Quote:
Only if your a criminal.

Envy is wanting that which doesn't belong to you. Stealing is taking that which doesn't belong to you. If you're too lazy to actually work for what you want from someone else, how else are you going to get it?




Quote:
Someone likes to take things past a personal religion dont they.

??? I have no idea what you mean here. I was using the example of what revenge and hatred have led to in history. I could also point to Israel and Palestine, and all the bombings there.




Quote:
Dont know where this came from. Lust in my eyes is just haveing a desire for something.

n.
Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.
An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.
Obsolete. Pleasure; relish.

intr.v. lust·ed, lust·ing, lusts
To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual. A bit more than that. Intense and obsessive, no less.




Quote:
In the long run of your comments, they, at the most, seem pretty invalid. Satanism is a set of moral codes for you to live by. A "Personal" religion. You seem to be big on "watering the plant" a little too much. You take it to a certain point. Satanists know theivery is wrong. Because it wont benifit us in the long term, which is what directs our actions. You'll end up in prison. Thats not a good thing.

~Teald

No, crime does benefit you if you manage to pull it off. Many of the famous figures in history are great criminals

Im takeing direct quotes out of my bible now.

"The seven deadly sins of the Christian Church are: greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these "sins" as they all lead to physical, mental or emtional gratification.
A satanist knows there is nothing wrong with being greedy, as it only means that he wants more that he already has. Envy maens to look with favor upon the possessions of others, and to be desirous of obtainingsimilar things for oneself. Envy and greed are the motivating forces of ambition-and without amibition very little of any impotance would be accomplished."

Thats a satanist motivation.

"Gluttony is simply eating more than you need to keep yourself alive. When you have overeaten to the point of obesity another sin-pride-will motivate you to regain an appearance that will renew your self respect."

It also mentions buying cloths for anything other than keeping warm or covering yourself up is a factor of pride. It isnt nessacary, though we do it. Because we are human.

"In order to insure the propagation of humanity, nature made the second most powerful instinct, the first being self preservation. Relizing this the Christian Church made fornication the "Original Sin". In this way they made sure that no one could escape sin"

This is in reference to lust.

Yes, Crime will benifit you if you pull it off, But the risk and punishment is too great for a Satanist to take into account.

"Since mans natural instincts lead him to sin, all men are sinners; and all sinners go to hell. If everyone goes to hell, then you will meet all your friends there. Heaven must be populated by some very strange creatures if all they lived for was to go to a place where they can strum hearts for eternity"

End Post.

~Teald

I haven't really posted in any other topics, except this one about the greatest scientist ever. Many of the topics in general are about really satanic things, I do not care to read/post about such things and bring more attention to them.

You should've said "OMFG!"

And as for the "weird" part: No, you are not wierd. Unless you're a religious fundamentalist.

Hmmm... I suspect your youth group is a christian fundamentalist terrorism group... jk

"Oh my friggin gosh" :p

I am glad you don't find we wierd, I think myself un-normal, which I think most people would catagorize as "weird".

You never know... :D


We had church and Sunday school today, and it was alot of fun. We had a guest speaker tell us about missionarys and how he just spent 15 years in a foreign country and raised the percentage of evangelical christians from 1.5% to 3%. I was back in the back helping with the slideshow for the songs/movie, and with the lights etc. Then I went to sit down with my Mom and sister, and listen to the message. After it was over we went upstairs to sunday school, where we talked about how to get closer to God. I must admit that I didn't pay as much attention as I should have, but it was all good. OMG ;) there was this really funny kid back in the back who made all the kids laugh, the teacher asked about boy/girl friends and he told about his problems and stuff it was really sweet/funny, but we were all nice to him. He is like 12 or something, and he was like "Why should I waste my time I am only 12?", and other things that didn't make too much sense, I think he might be slow :(. Then we were done and we left and went home. But it is alot of fun, we are going to go back at 4:30 so I can sing in the choir (with my sister) we need to practice for a presentation we are going to make. It will be great! Then this tuesday we are going to clean the church (we meant to go saturday but we were to late), and on thursday we are going to do a living nativity scene and be there to party all night :D . I hope you all have a merry Christmas!


~Abyss

I haven't really posted in any other topics, except this one about the greatest scientist ever. Many of the topics in general are about really satanic things, I do not care to read/post about such things and bring more attention to them.



"Oh my friggin gosh" :p

I am glad you don't find we wierd, I think myself un-normal, which I think most people would catagorize as "weird".

You never know... :D


We had church and Sunday school today, and it was alot of fun. We had a guest speaker tell us about missionarys and how he just spent 15 years in a foreign country and raised the percentage of evangelical christians from 1.5% to 3%. I was back in the back helping with the slideshow for the songs/movie, and with the lights etc. Then I went to sit down with my Mom and sister, and listen to the message. After it was over we went upstairs to sunday school, where we talked about how to get closer to God. I must admit that I didn't pay as much attention as I should have, but it was all good. OMG ;) there was this really funny kid back in the back who made all the kids laugh, the teacher asked about boy/girl friends and he told about his problems and stuff it was really sweet/funny, but we were all nice to him. He is like 12 or something, and he was like "Why should I waste my time I am only 12?", and other things that didn't make too much sense, I think he might be slow :(. Then we were done and we left and went home. But it is alot of fun, we are going to go back at 4:30 so I can sing in the choir (with my sister) we need to practice for a presentation we are going to make. It will be great! Then this tuesday we are going to clean the church (we meant to go saturday but we were to late), and on thursday we are going to do a living nativity scene and be there to party all night :D . I hope you all have a merry Christmas!


~Abyss



Why? I really want to know, because i want to know 1. Whether or not i said something that you cant explain. or 2. your just being ignorant. You say something to me, i respond, then you dont. Unsporting.

And the last bit of your post makes me sad. You say that my life must be bad, Your life sounds like shit. Sorry, but to me it does. Not just because of the relgious bit (thought that doesnt help) But it sounds so goddamn boring... .

~Teald.

You'd've hated the Unitarian youth group, LRY. It may not be the antithesis of the OP's youth group, but it's about as widely divergent an experience as to make comparison impossible.

I love my personal concept of Meta-Humanity, Godhead, the Higher Self, The Motive Force of the Universe, The Spirit of Inquiry - however you care to frame or contextualize it; and I loved my youth group. To the point of indecency.

this is the most pointless post i've ever read. "i had a good weekend and i love god". congradulations. put it on your xanga, this doesn't belong on the nationstates forum.

"Oh my friggin gosh" :p
no, it's "Oh My Fuckin God".

This kind of thought makes me sad. I've had Christians tell me I'm so lucky to have the success that God has given me, stuff like that, but I find it really offensive. I've had academic success because my parents put effort into teaching me to read, count, understand mathematical concepts etc. at a very young age and made sure I always had books to read that would teach me something, because I put the effort into reading a lot and paying attention at school, and because I had good teachers, NOT because of some God. I don't understand why Christians can't take pride in their own achievements and have faith in their own abilities, rather than attributing their talents to a gift from God or whatever.
I understand where you guys are coming from. There are a lot of people who label themselves as "Christians" so you get a ton of different ideas from "one" group who really are a lot of different groups. I am a born-again Bible-believing Christian. Back to my original point with the quote: even though you do have those abilities and you and the other people worked hard, it is only because God gave you that ability. I mean, what if God have let you be born blind or parilysed and you couldn't do those things? I'm sorry if this offends you but it is the truth.
Oh and about Christians not having a sense of humor or being able to take a joke, we actually can! :D My pastor jokes around a lot and many funny things happen at my church.

Saying God helped you do it doesnt take away the fact that you did it. IE If you sat there and did nothing God wouldnt do it for you. Its like that story of a man stranded on a sinking ship but he thought "Its ok God will save me" and then he waited. A ship came to his resque but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the ship left and he waited. Then a helicopter came to his aid but he said "I dont need you, God will save me" and so the helicopter left and he waited. Then the waters took over the ship and the guy drowned and when the guy met God in heaven he asked "God why didn't you save me" and God said "I sent a ship and a helicopter what more did you want?"
Repeat of my last post: you may have done it but you couldn't have without God.

Not to mention, I don't see how God can cope with all these disasters and "miracles" when he has to be at every sporting event, test, exam, paper, movie, play, etc.
God is everywhere at the same time. That's just part of the bigness of God that we as humans can't understand!

I understand where you guys are coming from. There are a lot of people who label themselves as "Christians" so you get a ton of different ideas from "one" group who really are a lot of different groups. I am a born-again Bible-believing Christian. Back to my original point with the quote: even though you do have those abilities and you and the other people worked hard, it is only because God gave you that ability. I mean, what if God have let you be born blind or parilysed and you couldn't do those things? I'm sorry if this offends you but it is the truth.
Oh and about Christians not having a sense of humor or being able to take a joke, we actually can! :D My pastor jokes around a lot and many funny things happen at my church.


Anything you can do, I can do better, walkie. :p :D

God is everywhere at the same time. That's just part of the bigness of God that we as humans can't understand!
Including the ones that gave you that brilliant idea that there is such a thing in the first place while not only telling "us" "we're" too stupid to understand it but at the same tame getting the more gullible of "us" to go around spreading such preposterous blather! And then paying for it in tithe to the abomination that churches have become, from the actually pretty good idea of fellowships that were the REAL fostering of Jesus of Nazareth ... that is if a third person account should be revered as some of "us" tend to do without any particular rational discrimination.

EDIT: So what do you think of the Pope, then? As someone who is *appointed*, is he just smarter than all the other throngs of gullibility?
Hmmm ... the Buddha is technically *appointed* .... and i guess there's a new one sitting in a forest right now proving that he is the new reincarnation.

Jesus Raves :fluffle:

"And lo unto the disciples Jesus said 'This x is the shit. I feel so good right now.' Jesus then proceeded to stick his thumb up his ass and spin around in circles, convinced that his rectum and thumb were grooving. And the disciples rejoiced and joined him in this. And God said it was good."
--Acts 4:15-18

Including the ones that gave you that brilliant idea that there is such a thing in the first place while not only telling "us" "we're" too stupid to understand it but at the same tame getting the more gullible of "us" to go around spreading such preposterous blather! And then paying for it in tithe to the abomination that churches have become, from the actually pretty good idea of fellowships that were the REAL fostering of Jesus of Nazareth ... that is if a third person account should be revered as some of "us" tend to do without any particular rational discrimination.

EDIT: So what do you think of the Pope, then? As someone who is *appointed*, is he just smarter than all the other throngs of gullibility?
Hmmm ... the Buddha is technically *appointed* .... and i guess there's a new one sitting in a forest right now proving that he is the new reincarnation.

What do you find so repulsive? That you in particular and humans in general may not be capable of understanding everything? That God's nature might be partially in the realm of things humans can't understand? If humans can fully understand everything, I will be greatly surprised, and if humans can fully understand God I will be mildly disappointed.

God is everywhere at the same time. That's just part of the bigness of God that we as humans can't understand!
Amazing and here I thought god was not present in hell, it by deffinition is a place without god

What do you find so repulsive? That you in particular and humans in general may not be capable of understanding everything? That God's nature might be partially in the realm of things humans can't understand? If humans can fully understand everything, I will be greatly surprised, and if humans can fully understand God I will be mildly disappointed.
Are you asking? Because that's (those are) not the point(s) i was making.
I'll make it clearer.
No human, including yourself, is any smarter than anyone else about the nature of god, and the doctrine being cited as the liason for the human relationship points out pretty clearly that you aren't.
I can't say i sense impartiality on your behalf to this nature, which would imply that you don't really have an objective relationship to the answers you're imploring (or at least rhetoricizing).
If you can't understand it than to obey is to slave oneself. Hey, it's your soul, whether you sell it or just give it away.
As per your last line, if we understood what god really would have to be in order to truly be god, i don't think we would stay within the realm of just humanity anymore.

Amazing and here I thought god was not present in hell, it by deffinition is a place without god
Would it be fair to assess that that poster's post could be regarded as "non-understandable"?
;)

Looks like you pointed out a good schism. Maybe someone out there can spin it so it doesn't look so damaging.

Would it be fair to assess that that poster's post could be regarded as "non-understandable"?
;)

Looks like you pointed out a good schism. Maybe someone out there can spin it so it doesn't look so damaging.
I have not seen them successfully do it

Usually they wax philosophical about god not being bound by logic or definition while missing the whole point

Weather by choice or by limitation god is not (using standard Christian dogma) omni-present

If he is omni-present then hells definition is wrong, if he is not omni-present one of the standard descriptions of god by Christians is incorrect

I have not seen them successfully do it

Usually they wax philosophical about god not being bound by logic or definition while missing the whole point

Weather by choice or by limitation god is not (using standard Christian dogma) omni-present

If he is omni-present then hells definition is wrong, if he is not omni-present one of the standard descriptions of god by Christians is incorrect
Wow, concise and consistent w/my observations as well.
*bows*

Seems you've got a challenge for them!

Wow, concise and consistent w/my observations as well.
*bows*

Seems you've got a challenge for them!
Ill try ... Ill probably mess up on spelling or something being drunk and all lol

Ill try ... Ill probably mess up on spelling or something being drunk and all lol
Well, being inebriated would make their responses seem more sensible and palatable, i imagine ... ;)
You've already got the challenge up so ya might as well knock a few back!
(and bump 'til yer sober)

*bump*

Chem 121? Econ 231? Are these high school subjects? They sound like university level...and you're 16?

I'm gonna start uni when I'm 16... but that's in Australia...

Oh and on topic, I love my youth group too... and God... and reading that 1st post did sort of make me smile even if it was something very strange and unusual to see on NS

I'm gonna start uni when I'm 16... but that's in Australia...

Oh and on topic, I love my youth group too... and God... and reading that 1st post did sort of make me smile even if it was something very strange and unusual to see on NS
Ya know, if this is a sincere post, it's kinda nice that a small amount of good came out of it.
A lot of heresy and humour, intrinsically and extrinsically linked, also came out of it, but i can't say that's necessarily "good" ... term taken of course as "god".
But hey, maybe diabolical laughter and the things that cause it ARE good!

Ya know, if this is a sincere post, it's kinda nice that a small amount of good came out of it.
A lot of heresy and humour, intrinsically and extrinsically linked, also came out of it, but i can't say that's necessarily "good" ... term taken of course as "god".
But hey, maybe diabolical laughter and the things that cause it ARE good!

I see no heresy

Ya know, if this is a sincere post, it's kinda nice that a small amount of good came out of it.
A lot of heresy and humour, intrinsically and extrinsically linked, also came out of it, but i can't say that's necessarily "good" ... term taken of course as "god".
But hey, maybe diabolical laughter and the things that cause it ARE good!

I was being sincere

Um and Abyss, I was gonna send you a TG or email, but neither of those seem to be working, so if ya could TG my nations puppets Sylli or Syllo that'd be cool, and then we could figure out some way of me TGing/emailing you

I see no heresy
Well, i hear no heresy ...
but i certainly speak it at times ! ;)

I should point out that it is technically heresy for Mel Gibson to publish a book form of The Passion of Christ, since he did take a bit of artistic license with a few points (not many, mind you, but the ones he did seemed kinda obvious ... like the temple.)
Yes, he is planning it.

I was being sincere
I meant if Abyssilian Nuclei was being sincere, then a little good came out of it, yadda yadda.
I also said that including your post. It just took your post (at that point) for me to post as such.

I meant if Abyssilian Nuclei was being sincere, then a little good came out of it, yadda yadda.
I also said that including your post. It just took your post (at that point) for me to post as such.

mmk :)

"Oh my friggin gosh" :p

Gosh is a euphemism for God. According to some of my Christian friends, euphemisms are a sin. We all know that you are simply substituting "gosh" for "God", as does your god.

If you are going to sin anyway, you might as well get full credit for your wrongdoings. Say "Oh my God!" and be done with it.

what, reading that lowered my IQ by ten points atleast...do the world a favor and NEVER breed.

Well, i hear no heresy ...
but i certainly speak it at times ! ;)

I should point out that it is technically heresy for Mel Gibson to publish a book form of The Passion of Christ, since he did take a bit of artistic license with a few points (not many, mind you, but the ones he did seemed kinda obvious ... like the temple.)
Yes, he is planning it.

Heresy, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is a "theological or religious opinion or doctrine maintained in opposition, or held to be contrary, to the ‘catholic’ or orthodox doctrine of the Christian Church, or, by extension, to that of any church, creed, or religious system, considered as orthodox. By extension, [heresy is an] opinion or doctrine in philosophy, politics, science, art, etc., at variance with those generally accepted as authoritative."

My bad, Got my definition of heresy messed up. Yes, there is lots of heresy in this thread.. .alot by me :P

Gosh is a euphemism for God. According to some of my Christian friends, euphemisms are a sin. We all know that you are simply substituting "gosh" for "God", as does your god.

If you are going to sin anyway, you might as well get full credit for your wrongdoings. Say "Oh my God!" and be done with it.


That made me laugh...heck... im still laughing...omg...stop >.< My sides hurt

I haven't really posted in any other topics, except this one about the greatest scientist ever. Many of the topics in general are about really satanic things, I do not care to read/post about such things and bring more attention to them.

I wonder which topics you judge as satanic...

We had church and Sunday school today, and it was alot of fun. We had a guest speaker tell us about missionarys and how he just spent 15 years in a foreign country and raised the percentage of evangelical christians from 1.5% to 3%. I was back in the back helping with the slideshow for the songs/movie, and with the lights etc. Then I went to sit down with my Mom and sister, and listen to the message. After it was over we went upstairs to sunday school, where we talked about how to get closer to God. I must admit that I didn't pay as much attention as I should have, but it was all good. OMG ;) there was this really funny kid back in the back who made all the kids laugh, the teacher asked about boy/girl friends and he told about his problems and stuff it was really sweet/funny, but we were all nice to him. He is like 12 or something, and he was like "Why should I waste my time I am only 12?", and other things that didn't make too much sense, I think he might be slow :(. Then we were done and we left and went home. But it is alot of fun, we are going to go back at 4:30 so I can sing in the choir (with my sister) we need to practice for a presentation we are going to make. It will be great! Then this tuesday we are going to clean the church (we meant to go saturday but we were to late), and on thursday we are going to do a living nativity scene and be there to party all night :D . I hope you all have a merry Christmas!


~Abyss

:confused: now what's with that 12 years old? Why do you need to state that he might be slow.

Oh wait, it's what most evangelical Christians (or at least 99% of those I've met so far) do: Judge other people and get all upset when they are confronted with a different opinion.

Plus: this thread is actually somewhat stupid. Kid, just go back to writing an ordinary diary.

Heresy, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is a "theological or religious opinion or doctrine maintained in opposition, or held to be contrary, to the ‘catholic’ or orthodox doctrine of the Christian Church, or, by extension, to that of any church, creed, or religious system, considered as orthodox. By extension, [heresy is an] opinion or doctrine in philosophy, politics, science, art, etc., at variance with those generally accepted as authoritative."

My bad, Got my definition of heresy messed up. Yes, there is lots of heresy in this thread.. .alot by me :P
All's well that ends well.
Keep up the good work!!! :)
*bows*
BTW, props for using OED. I usually do, for many reasons, some of them not-so-obvious.

So since Mel is an anti-reformist (per the catholic church) would that make him a heretic or not under the OED def?

Posiden weeps at such ignorance

Posiden weeps at such ignorance
Verily, he did stir the seas to tumult and cast his foul breath upon the land, thus upsetting trade routes hither and thither, causing mobiles of all kinds to skid and careen about in an unholy manner, ever tormenting even for the season already known to be unkind.

What? Were you getting at something?

Posiden weeps at such ignorance

Poseidon weeps at fools who misspell his name. It's the equivalent of abyss saying "praise almighty gawd".

good idea, poor execution dude

Verily, he did stir the seas to tumult and cast his foul breath upon the land, thus upsetting trade routes hither and thither, causing mobiles of all kinds to skid and careen about in an unholy manner, ever tormenting even for the season already known to be unkind.

What? Were you getting at something?

So Poseidon is to blame for me sliding underneath that truck on the highway last month? Fuck him then. Let's all celebrate Poseidon for what he really is, anyway, and that is Zeus Lite.

So Poseidon is to blame for me sliding underneath that truck on the highway last month? Fuck him then. Let's all celebrate Poseidon for what he really is, anyway, and that is Zeus Lite.
One might think, in that sense then, that Poseidon would be seen a little more often in the form of a giant golden shower (waterspout) or something like that instead of having their names nailed to a terrible movie about a bunch of boorish bastards on a pleasure cruise (and calling it an "Adventure"!)
The rolling of the boat wasn't as fast as the rolling of myself in my grave.

All's well that ends well.
Keep up the good work!!!
*bows*
BTW, props for using OED. I usually do, for many reasons, some of them not-so-obvious.

So since Mel is an anti-reformist (per the catholic church) would that make him a heretic or not under the OED def?

I would have to say... yes. I think ^^;

Poseidon weeps at fools who misspell his name. It's the equivalent of abyss saying "praise almighty gawd".

good idea, poor execution dude

"Praise Almighty Gawd" Reminds me of that chick from Friends... The "Oh...My...Gawwwwd" one.... I lolled ^^

This thread is certainly coming to a bloated and lethargic end.

This thread is certainly coming to a bloated and lethargic end.

It probably would have if you hadnt bumped it.

Meddler.

It probably would have if you hadnt bumped it.

Meddler.
Tee hee hee. :P

I'm much akin to that dude on Airplane, you know, the one that describes the plane looking like a giant Tylenol.

Im a catholic in biology with a catholic biology teacher who teaches evolution
Lol. I'm quite similiar..
Quite strange to think about.

*bump*ies.

I love God so much, he is really really awesome, I am 16 and he is so great. I love my youth group, I just got back from our Wednesday meeting and it was alot of fun, we just listen to our Youth director Mike (he is 22) and he told us about how God does so many impossible things, and how the birth of Jesus was impossible, OMG it was really funny because this one kid thought the most amazing thing about Jesus' birth was that he came out waving his hands saying "I am God!", it was hilarious. Then we went outside in the parking lot into really cold weather (I live in Las Vegas and at this time of year it gets cold), and played some football, it was fun we only had maybe 15 people, but still had some good plays. Only about half of the youth group went out to play because some thought it was too cold, but we had fun and not only the guys went out, our team had a girl and the other team had like 3-4. Then we were done because Awana (for the little kids) was over. I love my youth group a whole lot, we were supposed to go to Redrock this weekend (Saturday) but we didn't because Mike is lazy (j/k), but I really wanted to go, last time we went we had tons of fun (that was where I got the nickname "Daddy Long Legs" because I can scale the mountains really fast). This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. I guess I want to ask if anyone else here has a great (or just OK) youth group that they like going to. I didn't enjoy going to church about 3 months ago, but God showed me that he loved me even when I was a sinner and I love him so much now. Tell me if you have a youth group you like. I know there aren't too many Christians here but you never know!


~Abyss

Wow...sweet crowd you got there...

Wow...sweet crowd you got there...

It's like a cut-and-paste from a Myspace, except worse...

It's like a cut-and-paste from a Myspace, except worse...

Yeah, but myspace is too ungodly for this kid.

Yeah, but myspace is too ungodly for this kid.

Godspace?

Godspace?
I would use it.

I would use it.

You wouldn't have a bandwidth limit (that whole creation thing helps)...although I wonder if the word hell is kind of a hot-button issue on there?

You wouldn't have a bandwidth limit (that whole creation thing helps)...although I wonder if the word hell is kind of a hot-button issue on there?
Probably not.

do it man, create Godspace, and watch as God smites you.

do it man, create Godspace, and watch as God smites you.
God wouldnt do that!

God wouldnt do that!
How would you know? You've never met him.

How would you know? You've never met him.
It was sarcastic. But God <3's

It was sarcastic. But God <3's
I always thought <3 was better suited to an ice cream.

I always thought <3 was better suited to an ice cream.
I'm not gonna comment on that one, as a matter of fact.....No, I'm done.

I always thought <3 was better suited to an ice cream.
Nah its a heart. Some girls I know think it is cute, so I guess I have made a habit of using it though.

Nah its a heart. Some girls I know think it is cute, so I guess I have made a habit of using it though.
How old are you? Keystrokes eally get you laid, dude?

--snip--This week I have finals in Chem 121 and Econ 231, I know that God will get me though them with A's. --snip--

I'm glad you've got a faith that moves you, but you'd better study, too, pal. There might be faith healings, but there's never been a faith A.

I'm glad you've got a faith that moves you, but you'd better study, too, pal. There might be faith healings, but there's never been a faith A.

well thats just bad logic. He can part the Red Sea and heal cripples but not make an A?

well thats just bad logic. He can part the Red Sea and heal cripples but not make an A?

Exactly.