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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yall have to spank the monkey..LOL I never have had to because Im good looking enough to have a girl to have sex with or one to do it for me.

15, still a virgin. :(
Masturbate? Heck Yes!!!!

15, vergin. started masturbating at 6

How old were you when you first started having sex?
It depends on your definition--
I was 15 the first time I penetrated. I was thirteen the first time I went down on a girl(woman). I have an oral fetsih now.

I had sex too young-- I was too ignorant, and immature for the jump.

Oh well hind sight is 20/20.

Virgin.

Never masturbated. (Don't even start...)

:rolleyes:

Virgin.

Never masturbated. (Don't even start...)

You should try it some time. It's a great way to relieve stress, I find. It also helps if I can't sleep.

15 minutes is pretty good, I think the average is about 5. No foreplay is very bad though.

That's average? Jeez...I'm abnormal...

First oral at 17, real sex at 18.

And, only left one unsatisfied partner - and that's just a disgusting story, so we're not going to go into it (was my fault, but...well...warm glass of water is all I'm going to say)...and, yes, I've had quite a few partners...

*lament* j/k

how can somebody with such a cool orangish-reddish aura be single?! :eek:

:D

You tell me :p

Never had any intentional physical contact of any kind with anyone, ever.. 22 years old soon.

Playing guitar is better than any of that anyway, if you want to express yourself on a personal or emotional level anyway.. painting/drawing/other instruments come in second by a fair distance. ;)

Playing guitar is better than any of that anyway, if you want to express yourself on a personal or emotional level anyway.. painting/drawing/other instruments come in second by a fair distance. ;)

Yeah, I second that.

I just can't understand this "masturabted since 5/6/7/sumthin" - thingy. I mean, how the fuck can you possibly masturbate, not to mention to have an orgasm! if your balls are still up and penis is still tiny, foreskin hasn't moved back and you consider girls more like enemies or just some annoyance you have to see when you go to the sandbox than something to get laid with...? :confused: Is it even biolgically possible?

I think they were joking around. ;)

I think they were joking around. ;)

So did I at first, but there's so many of them and it is beeing said in a way that makes that possibility pretty questionable, IMO.

So did I at first, but there's so many of them and it is beeing said in a way that makes that possibility pretty questionable, IMO.

Alright, masturbation without ejaculation/orgasm would be possible at age 7. However, masturbation with ejaculation/orgasm would be nigh impossible at age 7.

WTF is masturbation without orgasm/ejaculation, that's the thing I don't understand!

Alright, masturbation without ejaculation/orgasm would be possible at age 7. However, masturbation with ejaculation/orgasm would be nigh impossible at age 7.

psst. Let me fill you in on a little secret (ok, its no secret, every doctor knows this). Children are born with the capacity to orgasm from birth. No ejaculation, of course, but orgasm nevertheless.

Every doctor knows this, but everyone else doesn't!

Oh and masturbation without ejaculation is working out your right arm. ;)

I just can't understand this "masturabted since 5/6/7/sumthin" - thingy. I mean, how the fuck can you possibly masturbate, not to mention to have an orgasm! if your balls are still up and penis is still tiny, foreskin hasn't moved back and you consider girls more like enemies or just some annoyance you have to see when you go to the sandbox than something to get laid with...? Is it even biolgically possible?

well i gotta admit i'm not too knowledgeable about the male biologics...being a female as i am,even if your statement is true it doesn#t affect my says about my "masturbation age"..though i bet somebody comes up with a similar reasoning for girls..but hey..i can lick my elbow as well (oh this is a clasic, i know), so ..

psst. Let me fill you in on a little secret (ok, its no secret, every doctor knows this). Children are born with the capacity to orgasm from birth. No ejaculation, of course, but orgasm nevertheless.

100% true.

First sex was at about five or six. My babysitter told me she'd get sick if we didn't.

First masturbation was within a year of that.


Originally Posted by Serapindal:

Never masturbated. (Don't even start...)

That's one of the saddest stories I've ever heard. You should fix that. It's like being proud of keeping your eyes closed your whole life.

That is just screwed up!

I am not even going to touch this thread with my ten foot pole.

It's not completely unusual for children to masturbate from as young as 7 or so. I started at eight, I do believe.

As for sex, it hasn't happened yet. Nor has anything else, including kissing.
I'm 20, FTR.

First sex was at about five or six. My babysitter told me she'd get sick if we didn't.
that is disgusting! (the sitter, that is). i hope you told somebody?

.
that is disgusting! (the sitter, that is). i hope you told somebody?

I didn't really fully come to grips with how wrong it had been until over thirty years later... For a long time, I actually considered myself lucky.

One of the legacies of this experience has been that I've never really been able to enjoy sex properly for it's own sake... I've had more "lovers" than some porn stars, and far too many of them have been fleeting or insignificant. I've traded sex for acceptance or affection ever since. I still find myself reverting to that practice.

Even having escaped the worst side-effects of this kind of experience (for instance, it's statistically "lucky" I haven't perpetuated the behaviour... Doing so is very common) I stand as an excellent example of why children should be protected from that sort of predation.

Started masturbating at 10.
Sex at 15, with someone I'd met on the internet an hour earlier.

yes, i guess you do.
i hope you're overcoming your trauma and can start dealing with sexual relationships healthily. you've got my best wishes.

Started masturbating at about 7-8.

First "full penetrative" sex; 22.

Fooled around a-plenty before that, though.

I lost mine this year. It was my 16th birthday and my boyfriend who lives in another city came to see me and it wasnt planned or anything. It was awesome. I was worried I'd regret it but I dont...not a single bit. :)

was a Virgin til near 18...Had my first mastubatory experience about ten years previously... yes I am a girl... have to realize also though that I had early onset Puberty as well, was menstruating at 10... I wonder if that may have something to do with what ages that kind of thing starts.

I just can't understand this "masturabted since 5/6/7/sumthin" - thingy. I mean, how the fuck can you possibly masturbate, not to mention to have an orgasm! if your balls are still up and penis is still tiny, foreskin hasn't moved back and you consider girls more like enemies or just some annoyance you have to see when you go to the sandbox than something to get laid with...? :confused: Is it even biolgically possible?

Actually, by six or seven, I was already trying to get with girls. I didn't understand the whole concept, but it sounded fun ;)

Maturbation, 12 (oh yeah, late, but being able to get a full stiffy kinda helped)

Sex, this year! 20.15 y/o A little awkward at first but very fun. Some showers are just too gods-rotted CRAMPED.

I just can't understand this "masturabted since 5/6/7/sumthin" - thingy. I mean, how the fuck can you possibly masturbate, not to mention to have an orgasm! if your balls are still up and penis is still tiny, foreskin hasn't moved back and you consider girls more like enemies or just some annoyance you have to see when you go to the sandbox than something to get laid with...? :confused: Is it even biolgically possible?

The human penis is sensitive from birth. Kids generally learn, fairly fast, that touching themselves down there (in private, of course - parents don't like to think this) feels "nice." There's nothing sexual about it, but it is masturbation nonetheless.

D'OH!
I thought this thread was about NS. :D
Forget my post... (if I made one that is)

The human penis is sensitive from birth. Kids generally learn, fairly fast, that touching themselves down there (in private, of course - parents don't like to think this) feels "nice." There's nothing sexual about it, but it is masturbation nonetheless.

that, m'dears, is why our parents always told us to keep our hands ON TOP of the blankets when saying goodnight..;)

I am not even going to touch this thread with my ten foot pole.
But it will touch you with a 10 foot pole.

But it will touch you with a 10 foot pole.

Your mom likes my 10 foot pole

jk. :D

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.

Your mom likes my 10 foot pole

jk. :D
Not like that.

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.
Agreed.

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.

Well, I wouldn't say it's the complete opposite (something to be proud of), but it certainly shouldn't be seen as something to be ashamed of. It's just something.

Well, I wouldn't say it's the complete opposite (something to be proud of), but it certainly shouldn't be seen as something to be ashamed of. It's just something. It's something that you can never gain back once you've lost it, which many people who have done regret.

It's something that you can never gain back once you've lost it, which many people who have done regret.

Perhaps, but personally, I think society puts way too much emphasis on the importance of virginity and the losing of it. It's not really that big of a thing on a wide basis.

Perhaps, but personally, I think society puts way too much emphasis on the importance of virginity and the losing of it. It's not really that big of a thing on a wide basis. What? Society encourages people to lose virginity, from what I've seen. :confused:

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.

I also agree. It's a shame that I keep going back to this thread and find so few that think this way. People shouldn't base their self-worth so much on losing their virginity.

What? Society encourages people to lose virginity, from what I've seen. :confused:

Society is very contradictory. On the one hand, people are encouraged and goaded into losing their virginity. On the other hand, a theme of virgins being 'pure' and losing virginity being a tainting of innocence or so, crops up a lot.

I don't think either of the views work well. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin (unless you really, really wish you'd had sex and can't get it, I suppose) and there's nothing wrong with not being a virgin.

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.
Depends on if you think it will be/was worth it

Society is very contradictory. On the one hand, people are encouraged and goaded into losing their virginity. On the other hand, a theme of virgins being 'pure' and losing virginity being a tainting of innocence or so, crops up a lot.

I don't think either of the views work well. There's nothing wrong with being a virgin (unless you really, really wish you'd had sex and can't get it, I suppose) and there's nothing wrong with not being a virgin. I reckon that everyone should remain a virgin forever. :) (wanna find why, go back a few pages.)
Incidentally, a lot of people who do lose it early feel less "self-worthy".

Incidentally, a lot of people who do lose it early feel less "self-worthy".
To me it was the opposite. I felt very loved. Afterwards too

To me it was the opposite. I felt very loved. Afterwards too I was referring to people who cave in from pressure that they "ought" to.

I was referring to people who cave in from pressure that they "ought" to.
Ah yes. That is bad. It shouldn't be a reason.

Of course one shouldn't have sex because of how one thinks it will impress others. That's just stupid, and weak. One should have sex only because they choose to of their own free will. Just like anything else. One should be ready for it, I think, I don't think it's something to be taken lightly (event though we are right now, I know, but the decision should not be made unless one can make it in complete confidence).

I was referring to people who cave in from pressure that they "ought" to.

Which wouldn't be a problem if people didn't make such a big deal out of sex and virginity.

What annoys me is when people talk about virginity as if it's something to be ashamed of. It's not, it's the opposite.

So remaining a virgin is something to be proud of and not being a virgin is something to be ashamed of..?

Nice. In a completely sick and wrong way, of course.

Saying you're proud of being a virgin, as an adult, is like saying you're proud of the fact that you've never seen a sunset or smelled a rose eaten a strawberry. All you've managed to do is deprive yourself of an experience... Avoid something that can be beautiful or average or unpleasant, just like anything else in life. And if you think there is some higher purpose to life than experiencing it, you're sadly mistaken.

You make a great deal of mention of those who lose their virginity then regret it. As someone who "had sex with" her babysitter at a criminally young age, let me tell you something... If the two choices were being sexually abused as a child or remaining a virgin for life, then I'd do it all over again, every day for a month and twice on Sundays if need be.

You want to know the absolute worst thing about being sexually "molested" as a child? It was, without a doubt, growing up in a religious (christian) community. If the society I was born into wasn't so deeply diseased over the concept of sex, I wouldn't have been damaged by early exposure to it.

The way I've been twisted by my sexual experience is not due to losing my virginity... It's due to the social mindset of people who make others feel shameful about it. There is nothing dirty or wrong about sex. There are precautions to be taken, just like when swimming or riding a bicycle... But the only thing "wrong" with sex is the way we make one another feel afterword.

Really. A ten year old should be able to have a friend over to spend the night and enjoy some exploratory sexual play without shame, fear, degradation, and lies. "Mom, Alice and I are going to go lick each other senseless now." "Ok... Have fun. Remember to be careful."

-snip-

See, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about. Society is hellbent on portraying sex or virginity as either good or bad, when in fact, they are neither.

There is nothing wrong with having sex. There is nothing inherently wrong in acting upon your sexual urges and getting it out of your system. No person is bad just because they had sex.

But there is equally nothing wrong with a person if they DON'T ever have sex. Not having sex is a valid decision for a person to make, that they may or may not keep. Hell, some people just don't HAVE sexual urges to act upon. These people are not missing out on something anymore than a person is missing out deciding not to go skydiving. It's an experience they don't have, but there are plenty of experiences that people never have. The problem is that society is SO DAMNED obsessed with sex (in an either positive or negative manner) that people just can't be left to make their sexual decisions one way or another.

jeez, can we not even have a simple thread without a debate?

MY GOD people...HAVE FUN...

First time was when I was 12, then again and again until the next year when I became stoic.

And I don't choke the chicken, it's just wrong.

jeez, can we not even have a simple thread without a debate?

MY GOD people...HAVE FUN...
And in a sex thread, no less! :eek: This must be a first for NS!

That persistent if you did it for 5 years waiting for an orgasm.
Yeah. Hard to explain in public, though ;)



DAMN he's a fighter!
SHE! Very much a she!



I know that. Everyone laughs at me and teases me IRL, and on NS too. :rolleyes: And that has nothing to do with asexuality, in fact. Imagine a person with no friends, who speaks to no one, does well in all classes without trying, and expresses no interest or knowledge of popular culture. Now try to imagine most people's response to the person. Imagine, also, that he is a year or two younger than everyone in his class as he skipped one grade, and thus is unable to stun them all with a few quick Jumping Spinning Hook Kicks and Cut Blocks. It's really kind of sad. :(
>.< You just described my ideal guy >.< I skipped two grades, though :P I win!





(I know, I'm being annoying and dragging up issues from 2 days and 19 pages ago, but I never get to be on NS anymore, so I have to squeeze everything into my weekly message now. And no, I'm not gonna get into the virginity = good/bad debate.)

And I don't choke the chicken, it's just wrong.


How d'you figure?

Yeah, masturbation is fun.

Ahem. I was 14. Don't really regret it. It was good. After my first time did it quite a lot with that gf. Then after we broke up didnt do it for over a year.

Umm have had a couple of girl friends but neva went to home plate.. guess the farthest I got was oral sex but that was fine with me .. I'm always cursed to end up with girl friends a little older than me.. stuck in high school while every girl I ever dated is now in college gahh only a couple months left d

discovered masturbation around 11 with an electric massager.. got caught then figured out you could with a hand aswell

I haven't held hands yet, and I am seventeen. But then again, I have some developmental disorders.

See, this is the sort of thing I'm talking about...

~snippity~

Exactly. As I said. Being "proud" of that decision is equal to being proud one has never seen a sunset, smelled a rose, or eaten a strawberry.

Your illustration of sky-diving is ok, as well, if a little more off-base. Sex is far more an inherant part of being a human being than is leaping out of one mechanical contrivance way up in the air, and surviving the experience due to the use of another mechanical contrivance... But our earliest ancestors enjoyed sunsets, strawberries, roses, and sex. It's hardwired into us.

That, of course, is the obvious answer to your question of why people obsess over it so much. It's the single most powerful drive any living creature has, beyond the basic business of staying alive... And it's so important that it can, at times, override that one more basic need. Get used to it... Humans (and dogs, and cats, and dolphins, and roses) will always obsess over sex. We just do it more, because we've evolved the "advantage" of continual receptivity.

That, of course (woah... deja-paragraph), is why control groups (such as parents, religions, and governments) have such a profound interest in regulating it. If you can control the way someone thinks of something they almost -have- to do, you have won great power.

So remaining a virgin is something to be proud of and not being a virgin is something to be ashamed of..?

Nice. In a completely sick and wrong way, of course.

Saying you're proud of being a virgin, as an adult, is like saying you're proud of the fact that you've never seen a sunset or smelled a rose eaten a strawberry. All you've managed to do is deprive yourself of an experience... Avoid something that can be beautiful or average or unpleasant, just like anything else in life. And if you think there is some higher purpose to life than experiencing it, you're sadly mistaken.

You make a great deal of mention of those who lose their virginity then regret it. As someone who "had sex with" her babysitter at a criminally young age, let me tell you something... If the two choices were being sexually abused as a child or remaining a virgin for life, then I'd do it all over again, every day for a month and twice on Sundays if need be.

You want to know the absolute worst thing about being sexually "molested" as a child? It was, without a doubt, growing up in a religious (christian) community. If the society I was born into wasn't so deeply diseased over the concept of sex, I wouldn't have been damaged by early exposure to it.

The way I've been twisted by my sexual experience is not due to losing my virginity... It's due to the social mindset of people who make others feel shameful about it. There is nothing dirty or wrong about sex. There are precautions to be taken, just like when swimming or riding a bicycle... But the only thing "wrong" with sex is the way we make one another feel afterword.

Really. A ten year old should be able to have a friend over to spend the night and enjoy some exploratory sexual play without shame, fear, degradation, and lies. "Mom, Alice and I are going to go lick each other senseless now." "Ok... Have fun. Remember to be careful."

That's awfully harsh, there was nothing about what she said that implied you should be ashamed of losing your virginity. She only said you should be proud of being able to maintain it. I tend to agree. It's not an easy thing to do. I think it's much easier to lose it then keep it. If you are despirate enough there has to be someone willing to have sex with you. Besides you just proved the point that there are a lot of people out there pushing others to have sex. 10 year old fooling around? That's sick. I know plenty of people who had sex at too young an age and regreted it. They simply aren't emotionaly ready for it. Sex isn't just physical. It brings a lot of emotion along with it. Now I prefer to wait until marriage, but that's a personal choice. I'm not about to try to tell people how to make their own moral/personal decisions of when they should have sex (except to say that 10 is far too young). Besides its not like I don't plan on having sex. I'm just waiting to get married first. I plan on having lots of sex after that. So I won't be deprived forever, just for the time being.

Your illustration of sky-diving is ok, as well, if a little more off-base. Sex is far more an inherant part of being a human being than is leaping out of one mechanical contrivance way up in the air, and surviving the experience due to the use of another mechanical contrivance... But our earliest ancestors enjoyed sunsets, strawberries, roses, and sex. It's hardwired into us.

It's not hardwired into everyone. Just the majority.

That, of course, is the obvious answer to your question of why people obsess over it so much. It's the single most powerful drive any living creature has, beyond the basic business of staying alive...

And just to be silly and nitpicky, I don't think Hydra are particularly concerned with sex.

I never really had a good idea of just how many people have had sex in their teens until now. Wow... but I should have expected it, I suppose. I feel kinda inadequate now (not because I haven't had sex, but because my romantic/sexual life is and always has been essentially null... and my 18th birthday is in about a week!)

As for masturbation, I started doing that around... 13 or 14, maybe.

That's awfully harsh, there was nothing about what she said that implied you should be ashamed of losing your virginity. She only said you should be proud of being able to maintain it. I tend to agree.

The one implies the other, and you're both arguably wrong. I say "arguably" because, as you point out later, it is an accomplishment... and in some way, accomplishing something that's difficult is something worth being proud of.

A person could go a whole year only eating saltine crackers. It wouldn't be particularly healthy or natural, but it would be difficult. We should applaud that, as well, right? Same with someone who manages to saw their own limbs off with a bread knife. Difficult and unnatural, so obviously worthy of praise.

.10 year old fooling around? That's sick.

One child playing with another child in a way that might cause physical pleasure... It's sick because you say it is, or because your bishop does?

I know plenty of people who had sex at too young an age and regreted it. They simply aren't emotionaly ready for it. Sex isn't just physical. It brings a lot of emotion along with it.

That, to be blunt, is a load of crap. While I don't mean this as a personal attack, the only reason sex carries a lot of extra emotional baggage with it is because people like you insist on putting it there. I had sex too young, and the evil way society looks at sex is the only thing wrong with it.

We're past the stage of sad little monkeys by now. We can control our fertility. Sex, like many other physical sensations, is physically and emotionally pleasing (unless it's been subconciously, psychologically effed up) and should be no more taboo than tickling, a caress, a hug, a massage, or any other social thing human beings can do.

You can have your choice to wait for marriage... I fully support your freedom to make that choice. I could give you any number of correct, logical reasons it might be a mistake, on average... Why no right-thinking person should ever consider a standard marriage without a sexual test-drive, so to speak... But as long as you're happy with it, it's ok. What I don't support is a pretense that it's not born of wrong-minded propagandization... What I don't support is the idea that anyone should be allowed to make such a choice for their children.

It's not hardwired into everyone. Just the majority.

And just to be silly and nitpicky, I don't think Hydra are particularly concerned with sex.

*grins wicked* This is a great response :-) But, really, if they weren't, in their own way, there wouldn't be any Hydra left to be thus unobsessed.

And yes, only the majority, but an overwhelmingly huge "normal" majority.

I'm sexually abnormal. Wires were crossed and programming jumbled prior to my birth, and as a result, I sexually desire girls instead of boys. I'm ok with it. Even happy with it. But it's still an aberation. Same with asexuality. Doesn't make the asexual person any less valid, and they may well enjoy life more without that ever-present desire... but it's still a tiny minority thus enhanced by virtue or a mutation.

You guys do realize that no matter how many times you reiterate your point, no matter how mean you are, no matter how much you type, and no matter how long this goes on, no one is going to change their views. Nothing wrong with stating your side, but making it into an argument is pointless. And no fun to read. And annoying.

That being said, what I just said is entirely pointless, as I know the debate will continue. But I said it anyway because I feel like getting up on my soapbox. So there!

I was 20 when I lost my virginity, she was 18. Slightly miserable experience, I mainly feel sorry for her. No pitty points, please. I'm too shy and self-conscious to do much. Plus, sex is over rated. Yes, that usually comes from people who can't get enough, and to that, I'd say it's true. Masturbation was 12 or 13 I guess.

*grins wicked* This is a great response :-) But, really, if they weren't, in their own way, there wouldn't be any Hydra left to be thus unobsessed.

And yes, only the majority, but an overwhelmingly huge "normal" majority.

I'm sexually abnormal. Wires were crossed and programming jumbled prior to my birth, and as a result, I sexually desire girls instead of boys. I'm ok with it. Even happy with it. But it's still an aberation. Same with asexuality. Doesn't make the asexual person any less valid, and they may well enjoy life more without that ever-present desire... but it's still a tiny minority thus enhanced by virtue or a mutation.

Well, they certainly aren't obsessed with sex in anyway... I just chose the first random asexual species I could think of. They would however harbour a fondness for growing a clone off their body, I suppose. Y'know, if they had conciousness enough to feel fondness. Pfft.

And yeah, the overwhelming majority is wired for sexual attraction. But the exception... uh... breaks the rule. No wait. The exception makes the generalization false, to a point. Or something like that. I don't know, it's late and I'm tired, and... I'm not really even arguing against anything you're saying.

I am another wire-crossed child, of what has to be the smallest group of sexual aberations... I think. If you counted it up, I doubt there'd be as many asexuals as there are anything else.

I was 17 when I gave up my virginity. It's been 2 years, and I'm still with him :)

Under 18, still a virgin suckers. Huzzah!

I don't masturbate. I don't find it immorally, or wrong, nor embarassing, I'm just not a horny enough guy. :rolleyes:

I have never had sex, masturbated, kissed, or ever had a Girlfriend.

I=pwn'D teh topic.

w00t.

I'm the Virgin-Man! No one can beat me here.

I was 20 years old when I first had sex... and I'm glad I waited. (And not for any moral or any kind of religion-based crap reasons, but rather by personal choice because my first boyfriend was a pigheaded son of a bitch who should've been drowned at birth!)

..because my first boyfriend was a pigheaded son of a bitch who should've been drowned at birth!)
AMEN!

You guys do realize that no matter how many times you reiterate your point, no matter how mean you are, no matter how much you type, and no matter how long this goes on, no one is going to change their views. Nothing wrong with stating your side, but making it into an argument is pointless. And no fun to read. And annoying.

That being said, what I just said is entirely pointless, as I know the debate will continue. But I said it anyway because I feel like getting up on my soapbox. So there!

ROFL

Well, they certainly aren't obsessed with sex in anyway... I just chose the first random asexual species I could think of. They would however harbour a fondness for growing a clone off their body, I suppose. Y'know, if they had conciousness enough to feel fondness. Pfft..

Yeah... Agreed. I figured the caveat "in their own way" was good enough, but I could've and should've gone further and said "...obviously obsessed with reproduction in their own way..." Not that that way would translate to anything we would recognize emotionally or intellectually as sexual desire, but still... Everything they do is directed at the singular goal of building up the physical resources to reproduce as much as possible.

But the exception... uh... breaks the rule. No wait. The exception makes the generalization false, to a point.

Agreed again, the generalization "all living creatures" is technically incorrect, but it's what we could easily call a linguistically understood generalization... Nobody get's upset if someone says "Cats have four legs" except a few nitpicky people like me and thee... It's just linguistically more elegant than saying "Creatures of the nomenclature Felis Cattus are, in general, born with four locomotive and semi-manipulative appendages commonly referred to as legs... With exceptions occuring in the one-point-four percent range due to congenital birth defect, point-oh-seven percent range due to genetic mutation, and at random due to physical injury."

I am another wire-crossed child, of what has to be the smallest group of sexual aberations... I think. If you counted it up, I doubt there'd be as many asexuals as there are anything else.

I imagine you're probably right... It certainly doesn't seem unreasonable to assume it's a fairly difficult variation to pass along genetically. ;-)

I've known more than a few asexuals, and dated one. It was actually a pretty good match for me. She was intelligent, friendly, and very interested in emotional love and intimacy, (which I very much am) and I'm often simply not in the mood for sex (far more frequently than average, another common side-effect of a past like mine, I'm told). Not much caring about sex itself, she didn't mind if I went out hunting when the urges did hit me... But I missed the "validation" of being able to sexually please her. As I mentioned before... I'd imagine, outside of society hassling you about something you don't care about, I'd imagine you have a much higher capacity to enjoy some other aspects of life than most people.

*hugs*

...because my first boyfriend was a pigheaded son of a bitch who should've been drowned at birth!

Far to many of them are, hon...

You guys do realize that no matter how many times you reiterate your point, no matter how mean you are, no matter how much you type, and no matter how long this goes on, no one is going to change their views. Nothing wrong with stating your side, but making it into an argument is pointless. And no fun to read. And annoying.

That being said, what I just said is entirely pointless, as I know the debate will continue. But I said it anyway because I feel like getting up on my soapbox. So there!

WooHoo! Nearly 100% incorrect! My favorite kind!

First... The vigorous exchange of ideas - or "argument" if you prefer - is the only way anyone's views ever get changed. Views can be formed, by way of personal experience... The can develop over time through self-study, reflection, or ponderance, or they can be instilled by way of parantal or academic instruction or indoctrination. But they can only be changed by means of intellectual intercourse.

So it's very obviously not pointless. Just because something only works one in ten or a hundred or even ten thousand times doesn't mean it's not worth doing. It's also incorrect to say it's no fun to read, or annoying... Unless you add "to some/many/me" to the end of it.

Third, it's just as obviously not pointless for you to point out your views... Sadly, many people will probably agree with you, and may thus cease to expose themselves to any number of new ideas... It also gave me the chance to rebut a commonly held fallacious belief.

The fourth point is why I have to say you're only nearly 100% incorrect. When you say you said it anyway, because you felt like hopping up on your soapbox, I have to agree and say "Bravo! You go girl/guy!"

Tyrell Technologies

JESUS...KNOCK IT OFF ALREADY.


You're way off topic here. You want to debate whether virginity is right or wrong, start a mothafuckin thread for it.

Tyrell Technologies

JESUS...KNOCK IT OFF ALREADY.

You're way off topic here. You want to debate whether virginity is right or wrong, start a mothafuckin thread for it.
Jezuz, man... You need a vallium or something? I apologize my arse off. Somehow I missed the memo that said we could only answer the thread question and not discuss it at all.

Here's an alternate counter-suggestion... How about you get the hell over it?

How d'you figure?

Because if you can't get somebody to do it for you, it shouldn't be done.

Tyrell Technologies...What I said was in half jest, which you would have noticed were you not so busy being defensive and argumentative to an extreme degree. I made my point then immediately stated the irony in what I had said, since it was doing the same thing that I was supposedly talking against. Also, I agree with you that argument CAN be constructive. But if you have ever paid attention even more a moment to anything that goes on in these forums, no one EVER changes their minds. They just get upset and take things the wrong way and run too far...kind of like you just did.

Neutered Sputniks seemed to get it. Or at least, I hope so.

So there!

Jezuz, man... You need a vallium or something? I apologize my arse off. Somehow I missed the memo that said we could only answer the thread question and not discuss it at all.

Here's an alternate counter-suggestion... How about you get the hell over it?

Not every thread out here has to be debated. Extract the blunt object from your rectum, please.

I was 14 when I lost my virginity. About 3.5 years ago. She ended up dumping for a guy. I did not masturabte for my first time until after that.

21 years and counting. No sex, nein romance, sans first kiss, let alone first girlfriend.

Masturbating 7 years and going strong. I don't remember who was first, exactly. I think I tried to make one up, actually. Masturbating about celebrities never worked til much later, and masturbating about anyone else...too strange. Thought it was more of a sin if it was someone you knew.

Happily, 23 and just married (seven and a half years ago now). No sex before for me or her. Yay!

I'm 17 years old now and I have not had sex yet. I do not intend to do so until I am married which wont be for years.

Masturbated since I was 12 though cuz...I'm still a guy.

Yes! Chastity-observers, represent!


And for the record, I have Asperger's. So I should be anti social, and I want to be anti social. But I like people. And I like hugs. And some people like neither me nor hugs...so you know. But, ah. One fine day. I'll ask a girl out and she'll say yes and actually mean it this time! And we'll eat something or something, talk about something hilarious, and maybe I'll get my first kiss. That's the plan.

I've never had sex. Call me old-fashioned if you will, but I plan to wait until after I'm married before I have it.

Heh. 41 and still never done it.

Not to be a jerk or anything, but after reading the previous argument/debate/culture war, (the one about whether being an adult virgin is ok or not) I have only one thing to say.

Assuming it's not ok to be adult and virgin....and sex is possible without the emotional baggage heaped on it by society (Let me know if I misinterpret you)....

Then should there be "Rehab Centers" for adult virgins? You know...Expose them to what they've been missing. Technically, the virgin in question is starving for an essential part of human/Earthen life. We have after-school programs to help under-priveleged kids learn to read. There are programs where high-schoolers and college students visit the elderly, allowing them much-needed human social interaction. My dad visits jails and half-way houses, helping the incarcerated get GEDs, apartments, jobs, and lives together.

Should we have Sex Clinics for the Sexually-Deprived/Over-Virgin...ized? You would sign up, check in, go in a room, have your experience, and come out a better person.

Or am I being an ass? Sometimes I can't tell.

Happily, 23 and just married (seven and a half years ago now). No sex before for me or her. Yay!
Way to go :)

Not to be a jerk or anything, but after reading the previous argument/debate/culture war, (the one about whether being an adult virgin is ok or not) I have only one thing to say.

Assuming it's not ok to be adult and virgin....and sex is possible without the emotional baggage heaped on it by society (Let me know if I misinterpret you)....

Then should there be "Rehab Centers" for adult virgins? You know...Expose them to what they've been missing. Technically, the virgin in question is starving for an essential part of human/Earthen life. We have shelters for the homeless and soup kitchens for the starving, missionaries to the poor and hospitals for the sick.

Should we have Sex Clinics for the Sexually-Deprived/Over-Virgin...ized? You sign up, check in, go in a room, have your experience, and come out a better person?

Or am I being an ass? Sometimes I can't tell.

If sex were essential to humans, we wouldn't have problems like this, any more than we have problems with discriminating against people who have eaten food or have never eaten food.

Masturbation at 10, im a hentai freak, lol.

and i havent had sex.

im 16.
I'm 16 too and never had sex. But I'm not that ugly.

Masturbated since 5. My teacher told me and my class how :-O

If sex were essential to humans, we wouldn't have problems like this, any more than we have problems with discriminating against people who have eaten food or have never eaten food.

Sorry, but could you explain what you mean? I'm having trouble understanding your wording.

If sex were essential to humans, we wouldn't have problems like this, any more than we have problems with discriminating against people who have eaten food or have never eaten food.
It's sex that made you so be happy about it!

Ahh I would have to say 15 years old when I lost my virginity and I was HORRIBLE at it and lasted about 2 minutes, I am now much better and last longer thank God. I think I was 11 when I first masterbated, maybe 12

Sorry, but could you explain what you mean? I'm having trouble understanding your wording.

If sex was essential, people would have to have it, no matter what, or they would die. Food is essential for a person to survive. Because food is essential, we have no problems with people being made fun of for having never eaten food, or have people considered 'less pure' for having eaten food. If people needed sex like they need food, there would be no 'sex, good/bad?' or 'virginity, good/bad?' debate.

It's sex that made you so be happy about it! I was born from coldness and steel, forged in darkness and born in slavery.

Because if you can't get somebody to do it for you, it shouldn't be done.
What if you have someone to do it for you AND you do it? Seriously, though, I don't understand the not-masturbating. At least religious reasons make a tiny amount of sense, even if I don't agree.


Also, couple of people with Asperger's have cropped up on this thread, and to that I say RAWK! ... I don't have Asperger's, but I have a Non-Verbal Learning Disorder, which is basically Asperger's Lite.

Happily, 23 and just married (seven and a half years ago now). No sex before for me or her. Yay!

congrats! but i have one question did you get married when you were 16 or iam i just not reading what you wrote correctly?

I'm 16 too and never had sex. But I'm not that ugly.

Masturbated since 5. My teacher told me and my class how :-O

Rofl at Teacher.

First had sex at 16 with a guy I met online. It was the first time for both of us but it was a really nice experience. We've been together ever since and now we're married. :D

Masturbation, I think I started around 9 or 10.

Its funny, we were just discussing this at work the other day when someone asked the best age to start having sex is, most of us agreed around 16 or 17 is the best age, although it depends on the person of course.

congrats! but i have one question did you get married when you were 16 or iam i just not reading what you wrote correctly?

Got married at 23, 7 1/2 years ago. Had sex for the first time right after they got married...

12
I was 12 when i LOST my virginity. Talk about embarassing!
I hadn't even learned how to jack off properly!

I was 12 when i LOST my virginity. Talk about embarassing!
I hadn't even learned how to jack off properly!


Oooh! Ooh! Tell us a story!

I discovered masturbation I think around 12 or 13.
First kiss @ 19
Oral Sex @ 20
I'll be 21 shortly and although I've had the opportunity to have sex I'm still a virgin. I plan on waiting for a secure, long-term, loving relationship, if not marriage before I have sex.

I'm a guy for the record.

Has anyone else that has remained a virgin while in college ever felt like they were looked down upon for not having sex?

i'll tell you when it happens. though i don't see it in my near future. there are more important things in life. :D

Has anyone else that has remained a virgin while in college ever felt like they were looked down upon for not having sex?

Nope. Just for being innocent and a bit socially inept. Most girls at my school pick up on my innocence/ineptitude, have pity, and proceed to talk to me like I'm five. Guys do the same thing. It's been a problem since high school. And I know it was the Asperger's because my classmates treated me like they treated the Special Ed kids: Not really talked down to, but not really talked to like an adult, you know? Like an equal. I didn't get that til college. I had it a little at church, since most of my youth group friends were as innocent as me.

In short, being virgin has never been a problem. Oh yeah, I got friends who are like "We gotta get you laid, man," but no one's pressuring me.

The problem's just been loneliness. I have friends, and we hang out. But sometimes I need something more than hugs. Eh. Whatever. My train's coming.

Has anyone else that has remained a virgin while in college ever felt like they were looked down upon for not having sex?
I'm in college now but no one is looking down on me. Even though they did I wouldn't care. :D

Because if you can't get somebody to do it for you, it shouldn't be done.
That's rather absurd. If you do it right, you can probably (physically) please yourself better than someone else can please you.

Has anyone else that has remained a virgin while in college ever felt like they were looked down upon for not having sex?

Nah. Nobody knows, and nobody wants to know. Works out well.

14 for me... Wasn't all that great...

I don't know when i started masturbating... Bloody hell! That's ages ago!